* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] ALL RIGHT. GOOD [1. MEETING ANNOUNCEMENTS] MORNING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA'S DESIGN REVIEW BOARD WORKSHOP SESSION. WELCOME. UM, I WILL TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO MR. SCHROEDER, AND HE WILL WALK US, UH, OUR APPLICATIONS THIS MORNING IN PREPARATION FOR HEARING THEM AT OUR PUBLIC HEARING STARTING AT NINE O'CLOCK. SO WE'RE AT THE, THE FLOOR IS YOURS THIS MORNING. [2. WORK SESSION ITEMS] GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. ALRIGHT. WE HAVE THREE, THREE CASES THIS MORNING. SO THE FIRST ONE WE HAVE IS, I, I THINK TO US, FAIRLY, TO ME ANYWAY, FAIRLY MINOR. UM, THIS IS THE PNC BANK OUT ON OLD MILTON PARKWAY. THEY WANTED TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF UPDATING. UM, AND I, I MAY HAVE DONE SOME OF THIS IN-HOUSE, HAD HAD SOME THINGS FELL OR CAME, CAME THROUGH. BUT ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THEY WANTED TO DO WAS THEY WANTED TO GET RID OF THIS PORTION HERE. AND THEN, UM, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, BACK, 'CAUSE IT'S BEEN BEEN A COUPLE MONTHS BACK, UM, THEY FOUND THAT IT IS STRUCTURALLY INTEGRAL, SO THEY CAN'T REALLY JUST TAKE IT AWAY. SO THEY'RE GONNA, YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY'RE GONNA COVER IT TO MAKE IT SORT OF GO AWAY OR, OR BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, THINGS. THEY WANTED TO, THEY WANTED TO TAKE THE REALLY TRADITIONAL STUFF OFF OF THE BUILDING, BASICALLY. UM, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY'RE GONNA SQUARE UP THE COLUMNS. THEY'RE GOING TO, UM, CHANGE THE HEADERS ON THESE WINDOWS A LITTLE BIT. THIS WILL BECOME MORE OF A FLAT SURFACE. UM, SO I THINK, I THINK IT ALL WORKS TOGETHER. SO THIS IS, THIS IS WHERE THEY WANT TO GET TO. SO YOU CAN SEE THEY'VE SQUARED THOSE COLUMNS UP. UH, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT YOU, YOU MAY NOTICE HERE IS THEY'VE REMOVED THE GRIDS FROM ALL OF THE WINDOWS. UM, I, I DON'T, STAFF DOESN'T NECESSARILY, UM, DISLIKE THAT, BUT I, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A LITTLE BLANK. THEY COULD DO SOMETHING TO THE WINDOWS TO, TO, I, I THINK IT'S BETTER WITHOUT THE GRIDS, UM, WITHOUT THE REALLY SMALL GRIDS, I SHOULD SAY. UM, BUT I THINK THEY COULD REPLICATE SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE, UM, MAYBE A TWO OVER ONE SITUATION WHERE YOU'VE GOT THREE QUARTERS AT THE BOTTOM AND JUST SPLIT IT AT THE TOP IN HALF JUST TO GIVE THESE, THESE WINDOWS A LITTLE BIT MORE REPRESENTATION, SORT OF LIKE THE FRONT. UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S STAFF'S OPINION AND I'VE NOT RELAYED THAT OVER TO THE APPLICANT. AND THEN JUST SOME OTHER STUFF. THEY'VE GOT SOME REPAIRS TO DO. AND, AND YOU CAN SEE, HERE'S ANOTHER WINDOW, UM, SQUARING UP THE COLUMNS IN THE DRIVE THROUGH AS WELL. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT WE NEED TO, WE WILL NEED TO ASK. UM, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO, TO ASK AFTER OUR MEETING MR. KRAMER THE OTHER DAY. UM, YOU'LL SEE SOME ELEVATIONS, SOME, SOME FLAT ELEVATIONS THAT, THAT THIS DOOR IS GONE. SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHETHER THE DOOR IS REMAINING OR, OR THE DOOR IS GONE. UM, BECAUSE IN THIS, IT JUST SAYS TO REMOVE THE DECORATIVE HEADER AND OH, IT DOES SAY REMOVE DOOR AND WALLS. IT SHOWS IT WITH A BRICK INFILL, I THINK. YEAH, IT DOES SHOW WITH BRICK INFILL, BUT WHEN YOU GO TO THE, ON THIS ONE, WHITE ELEVATION ON THIS ONE, BUT WHEN YOU GO TO THE BLACK AND WHITE ONES, THE DOOR'S STILL THERE. RIGHT. SO THEN THE NEXT KEY IS IF, SO THIS BUILDING, I THINK MR. KRAMER FOUND THAT THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 2004. WE, WE LOOKED AT IT OR WE LOOKED AT IT AT DRB IN 2004. SO IF YOU'RE GONNA INFILL BRICK, THAT'S GONNA BE TOUGH TO MATCH FROM 2004. THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE REALLY, REALLY, SINCE THEY'RE NOT, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, TAKING BRICK AWAY OP MAKING OPENINGS THAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY REUSE THAT BRICK. SO WE'LL JUST HAVE TO TALK THROUGH THAT. UM, SOME OTHER CHANGES. JUST A LOT OF COS A LOT OF LITTLE COSMETIC STUFF ALL THE WAY AROUND. UM, SO, SO BRETT, ONE OF, ONE OF THE THINGS I DID NOTICE TOO IS IT'S AN ALTERNATE TO READ. LOOK AT THE, OH, IT'S AN ALTERNATE. SO IT, IT'S NOT A PLAN NOTES. IT SAYS ALTERNATE [00:05:01] NEW STOREFRONT WINDOWS. OKAY. WE'LL JUST SEE WHAT THAT YEAH, WHAT THAT MEANS. YEAH. SO THEN HERE IS WHERE WE GOT A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE ELEVATIONS, BECAUSE ON THIS BLACK AND WHITE, YOU SEE THAT IT'S STILL THERE. ALTHOUGH WAIT THERE ON THE PROPOSED IT STILL SHOWS IT THERE. SO DON'T REALLY, I'M REALLY SURE. SO WE'LL, WE'LL WORK THROUGH THAT. AND THEN THEY'RE JUST LIGHTING UPDATE. UM, UM, BRETT, I DID NOTICE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE MONUMENT SIGN NOW. I I COULD NOT FIND ONE WHEN I YOU COULDN'T FIND ONE. NO. AND SO JUST WHERE THAT, THERE WASN'T, IT'S NOT OUT ON OLD MILTON. FRANK. THIS IS THE ONE RIGHT THERE BY YOU, ISN'T IT? I DIDN'T SEE IT, BUT YEAH. I THOUGHT IT HAD A MONUMENT. I THOUGHT IT WAS OUT ON OLD ANYWAY. YEAH, WE'LL SEE. WE'LL FIND OUT. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEN THERE, ONE OF THEIR BUILDING SIGNS TOO HAS A, A BACKBOARD MM-HMM . BUT THEY DON'T SHOW IT, SHOW THE BACKBOARD OR A PLATE ON THEM. SO OKAY. CLARIFICATIONS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN ON THIS ONE POTENTIALLY, BECAUSE WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT, UM, REVERSE LIGHTING ON BRICK AND, AND HAVING SOMETHING TO CLEAN THAT UP SO THAT, THAT MAY, THAT MAY BE THAT ONE, BUT YEAH. WE'LL, ONE OF THE OTHER PAGES, YEAH, WE'LL TALK THROUGH THAT. YEP. OKAY. LET'S MOVE ON TO, WE ALL HAVE TO LOOK. WE DON'T HAVE TO, BUT, BUT IT'S IN THE PACKET. SO I MEAN, IF, IF WE WANT TO, AND THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IS THE MONUMENT. THE ONLY THING THAT YOU WOULD EVEN I WILL LOOK AT IS THE MONUMENT AND THE WALL SIGNS. I'LL LOOK AT THE OTHER SIGNS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE WITHIN THE CODE, BUT THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT PERMITTED SIGNS. SO THEY'RE ALLOWED NORMALLY WOULD BE STAFF REVIEW NORMALLY FOR SIGNAGE. YES. SO IF IT WAS JUST A SIGN REVIEW, THEN RIGHT. WE WOULDN'T BE HERE. I THINK RICHARD'S RIGHT. I DON'T SEE A MONUMENT SIGN ON. YES. FOR SOME REASON I THOUGHT IT WAS RIGHT THERE. YEAH, BUT THE, THE MONUMENT SIGN'S IDENTIFIED AS A DIFFERENT NUMBERS, SO MAYBE IT'S HIDDEN IN THE LANDSCAPE. . OKAY. SO, UH, THE NEXT ONE IS PRETTY BIG PROJECT. THIS IS, UM, A PORTMAN PROJECT THAT'S NEW TO THE CITY. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU GUYS WILL BE SEEING, UM, THIS PROJECT FROM THEM, BUT DEFINITELY NOT GONNA BE THE LAST. UM, THIS, THIS PROJECT HAS A COUPLE MORE PHASES THAT ARE COMING TO CITY COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE. UM, AND, UM, IN THIS, THERE'S ALSO SOME COMMERCIAL OR SOME, UH, RETAIL STUFF THAT, THAT IT'S THE, UM, DEVELOPER'S INTENT THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL TENANT WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD FOR THEIR TENANT FINISH. UM, SIMILAR TO AVALON. SO THEY'LL HAVE RESIDENTIAL ABOVE IT. SO THAT'S FOR THE RETAIL ON THE RETAIL SIDE. NOW THERE IS, THERE ARE SOME INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE ONLY RETAIL WITHOUT RESIDENTIAL ABOVE THEM. AND THAT'LL BE THE SAME WAY. THEY'RE GONNA BASICALLY WHITE BOX THE BUILDING AND THEN THE TENANT WILL DO A SPECIFIC FINISH ON SAY, THE FRONT ELEVATION. UM, AND, AND WHEN WE GET TO THE SITE PLAN, I'LL POINT THOSE, THOSE FOUR BUILDINGS OUT. UM, TODAY WE'RE NOT REALLY GONNA FOCUS HEAVILY ON THOSE FOUR BUILDINGS BECAUSE IN TALKS WITH THE APPLICANT, A FUTURE THING THAT'S ALREADY PLANNED FOR CITY COUNCIL MAY CHANGE THE LAYOUT OF THAT SIDE OF THE, OF THE PROJECT. SO WE'RE NOT REALLY GONNA FOCUS HEAVILY ON THAT. AND THEY'RE JUST WHITE BOX BUILDINGS ANYWAY WITH TENANT FINISHES. SO, UM, BUT WE WILL POTENTIALLY SEE SOME OF THAT FROM THEM. UM, THERE ARE SOME COUNCIL CONDITIONS IN HERE THAT I PUT IN AND WE HIGHLIGHTED THE ONES THAT ARE, UH, FAIRLY SPECIFIC TO YOU GUYS. SOME THAT DON'T REALLY, UM, THEY'RE JUST BASICALLY STANDARD, UM, CONDITIONS THAT STAFF PUTS IN. THINGS LIKE IF YOU SAW IN HERE THAT IT SAID ABOUT TREATMENTS FOR PARKING DECKS, WELL, THE PARKING DECKS COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY BUILDINGS. SO, YOU KNOW, IT, WE JUST PUT, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT STAFF PUTS IN EVERY CASE. SO, UM, [00:10:02] AND THEN YOU NEVER KNOW, YOU KNOW, THINGS COULD CHANGE A LITTLE BIT. YOU MIGHT GET A VIEW OF IT. AND IF YOU GET A VIEW OF A PARKING DECK FROM A POEO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE, YOU KNOW, WE MAY WANNA LOOK AT THAT AND, AND TREAT THAT AREA, UM, DIFFERENT THAN WE WOULD SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO YOU CAN PERUSE THROUGH THOSE. AND THEN HERE IS THE PROJECT, AND I'M GOING TO BREEZE THROUGH THIS PRETTY QUICKLY. SO THIS IS THE OVERALL SITE PLAN. SO TO, TO ORIENT YOU, UM, OUT ON OLD MILTON PARKWAY, AS YOU CROSS NORTH POINT, YOU GO DOWN THE HILL, YOU CROSS OVER BIG CREEK, AND AS YOU START TO COME UP RIGHT THERE ON YOUR RIGHT, YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T NOTICE SOME, THE FIRST THING YOU PROBABLY NOTICED REALLY WAS THE BANK THAT SITS AT THE CORNER OF BROOKSIDE AND OLD MILTON. BUT, BUT BEFORE THAT, THERE'S TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT SIT BACK, UM, AWAY FROM THE ROAD. UH, THEY GOT GREAT TREE CANOPY OUT HERE, WHICH IS IS WHY YOU DON'T REALLY SEE THESE, BUT YOU MAY SEE THE PARKING LOT AND STUFF. SO THIS IS ONE OF THE BUILDINGS, AND THE OTHER ONE SITS IN THIS AREA. SO THIS, THIS PHASE IS GOING TO BE TAKING THIS BUILDING DOWN, DOING SOME RESIDENTIAL, SOME A LITTLE BIT OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL. AND THEN THESE ARE THE FOUR BUILDINGS THAT I WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT. THERE'S, THEY'RE ALREADY IN, UM, I BELIEVE, UM, IN PLANNING TO GET TO COUNCIL FOR PHASE TWO, WHICH EXTENDS DOWN THIS WAY, UM, WHICH WOULD MEET UP THEN TO THE GEORGIA STATE BUILDING, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE WAY BROOKSIDE CURVES AROUND BACK THERE. SO EXISTING BANK REMAINS, THIS SITE IS NOT PART OF THIS PROJECT. UM, AND THEY'RE NOT TOUCHING ANYTHING OUT THERE. THE, THE, BASICALLY THE, THE DOCTOR THAT OWNS THIS DIDN'T, DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO HAVE, UM, HE JUST, HE JUST DIDN'T WANNA BE PART OF THEIR PROJECT. THEY ARE CONNECTED HERE. ONLY CONNECTED NOW THOUGH. IT IT IS CONNECTED. IT IS CONNECTED NOW, YES. UH, GRADE CHANGES THOUGH, WHICH YOU'LL SEE ARE GONNA MAKE A A, A QUITE LARGE WALL RIGHT HERE. AND THIS, THIS SITE BECOMES FLATTER AND I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, BUT I WANNA SAY IT'S ABOUT EIGHT FEET DROP AT THE WALL. SO, TO THE BANK? NO, THE BANK IS HIGH. OKAY. THE BANK IS HIGH. SO THERE'LL BE A CUT, BASICALLY RIGHT IN THROUGH HERE, BUT THEY WILL STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THIS PARKING THAT'S RIGHT HERE. AND THEN THEY CAN GO THIS WAY AS WELL OFF OF BROOKSIDE PARKWAY UP INTO THE BANK. THAT'S A SHARED ENTRANCE. YEAH. THAT, THAT ENTRY IS THERE NOW? YES. YES. IT'S, THIS IS HERE, THIS IS THERE NOW. AND THEN ACTUALLY THERE'S ANOTHER ENTRY OFF OF OLD MILTON PARKWAY THAT COME IN. YEAH. AND I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHERE, IF, I'M NOT SURE REALLY SURE IF THAT'S RIGHT THERE AS WELL OR FURTHER TO YOUR YEAH, IT'S FURTHER DOWN HERE. YES. OKAY. BECAUSE CENTER IS ON THE OTHER TABLE NOW. YEAH. AND THIS ENTRANCE EXISTS AS WELL HERE, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON. SO, UM, YES, WE NEED SITE PLAN APPROVAL. UM, BUT I THINK WE CAN, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE SITE PLAN ON THIS SIDE SO MUCH BECAUSE I, IT'S, IT'S GONNA CHANGE A LITTLE BIT. IN FACT, UH, THEY'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH GEORGE, OUR, UH, TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER IN OUR OFFICE, AND I, WE HAD A HOUR AND A HALF LONG MEETING LAST WEEK WITH THEM ABOUT DOING SOME CHANGES UP HERE TO ALIGN STUFF A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY AND, AND THINGS. SO, UM, I THINK OUR BIG FOCUS TODAY NEEDS TO BE THIS BUILDING UP HERE, LANDSCAPE AND, UM, MATERIALS AND ELEVATIONS, CIVIL PLANS, AND THEN WE GET INTO THE PRETTY PICTURES. MY FAVORITE PART, BRETT, IF YOU WOULD JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN AND WHERE'S THE, THE GREENWAY OR THE ALPHA, [00:15:03] UM, CAN YOU GUYS SEE THIS DECENTLY, THIS KEY PLAN DOWN HERE? SO THE GREENWAY IS RIGHT HERE AND THERE'S A CONNECTION BASICALLY, RIGHT, RIGHT THERE ON THE SITE PLAN. IT'S, I THINK IT'S, I WANNA SAY IT'S RIGHT IN HERE SOMEWHERE, BUT THIS, THIS IS THE, THIS, IT COMES UP HERE. THEY'RE GONNA BUILD THIS, IT COMES UP HERE. UM, BUT THERE'S A BIGGER CONNECTION. SO THIS, THIS POOL AREA, POOL AND AMENITY AREA WILL BE, BE VISIBLE FROM THE TRAILER. SO, SO THAT'LL BE A, THAT'LL BE A FOCUS OF OURS. SO BIG FOCUSES ARE OBVIOUSLY ON ELEVATIONS AND MATERIALS ARE GONNA BE OLD MILTON, THE NEW DRIVE. THIS DRIVE IS, THIS IS ALL GONNA BE PUBLIC, SO THIS, THIS WILL BE IMPORTANT. AND THEN THIS AREA HERE, THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN JUST WRAPPING EVERYTHING AROUND. AND THERE'S NO, THIS PROJECT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A, A BACKSIDE TO IT. IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT A PROJECT LIKE THAT. SO, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT ANY SIDES. SO HERE WE'LL GET INTO SOME ELEVATIONS AND REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, UM, THIS STUFF DOWN ON THE FIRST LEVEL BASICALLY IS ALL PLACEHOLDER AS WE DID. IF SOME OF YOU REMEMBER FROM AVALON, THOUGH, THERE ARE SOME PORTIONS OF THE UPPER BUILDING THAT WILL COME TO THE GROUND CORNERS, SOME PILES AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THAT'LL, THAT WILL COME TO THE GROUND INITIALLY. AND, AND THEY'LL BE, THEY'LL DISCUSS THOSE. BUT, BUT A LOT OF THIS DOWN HERE WILL BE TENANT FINISHED STUFF. OKAY. BRETT, CONDITION 14 MENTIONS A LANDSCAPE STRATEGY PREPARED BY CORE. YES. DATED 3 20 25. DO YOU HAVE THAT? I DO NOT HAVE THAT STRATEGY, BUT IT'S, IT'S INCORPORATED IN THIS AND CORE IS THE SAME PEOPLE, BUT THEY REFERENCED THAT. DO YOU NOT HAVE A COPY OF IT THAT WE CAN LOOK AT? I DO NOT HAVE A COPY THAT WE CAN LOOK AT. CAN WE GET IT? YES. PRIOR TO THIS REVIEW? NO. UH, MAYBE I DON'T, I'LL LOOK, I'LL LOOK AND SEE IF I CAN FIND IT. BRETT, THE, UM, THE RETAIL STOREFRONT THAT WILL BE MODIFIED BASED ON THE TENANTS THAT COME IN. THAT'S ONLY JUST THE STOREFRONT AREA? YES. IMPACT ANY OF THE ARCHITECTURE, LIKE YES, YES. IT COULD HAVE SOME ARCHITECTURE BASED ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY PUT ABOVE AND, AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT MOST OF IT'S GONNA BE THE, THE TENANT FINISH IN THE OPENING, BASICALLY. YEAH. LIKE, UM, AVALON, I THINK LIKE A, THEIRS WAS AT, I THINK 18 FEET, MAYBE 15 FEET. YEAH. WAS THE, WAS THE, ON THE OUTSIDE WALL, I THINK THEY HAD 18 FEET TO, THEY, THERE WAS LIKE 15 FEET AND THEN THERE WAS A THREE FOOT AREA THAT AVALON SORT OF DID, AND IT WAS BRICKED OR WHATEVER, BUT THEY COULD COVER THAT OVER AND MOST OF THEM DID. OKAY. UM, SO THAT'S BASICALLY, IT'LL BE AN APPLIANCE. IT'S NOT GONNA BE, SO THE BUILDING WILL BE PROOFED BY PORTMAN, BUT THERE'LL, THERE'LL BE SOME APPLIED STUFF. ALL THE, THE PRIMARY ARCHITECTURE FEATURES WILL REMAIN ALL PRIMARY HARD ARCHITECTURE FEATURES REMAIN. YEP. YEP. SO THIS IS THE INTERIOR ROAD. THE OTHER END OF THE INTERIOR, THIS WOULD BE DIRECTLY OPPOSITE OF OLD MILTON AND WOULD FACE THE OTHER REMAINING OFFICE BUILDING. THIS IS THE GREENWAY AND THE POOL DECK AREA FOR THIS PLACE. THIS IS THE REMAINING OFFICE BUILDING. THIS IS WHERE THE WHALE WILL COME UP. YEP. IT'S THE CONNECTION TO THE GREENWAY. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. THE GREENWAY'S DOWN ALONG THE CREEK, BUT YEAH. BUT THE CONNECTION WILL COME UP RIGHT THERE. THIS IS THE OLD MILTON VIEW. IF YOU'RE COMING UP THE HILL FROM, FROM BIG CREEK, THIS IS, THIS IS THE FIRST PORT, FIRST PART YOU'LL SEE. AND THEN YOU CAN, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE, THE REALLY WAVY SIDEWALK HERE, IT'S GOING UPHILL. ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT THAT CITY COUNCIL PUT IS ALL OF THE WALKOUTS ON THE FIRST LEVEL HAD TO HAVE A PORCH. SO YOU'LL SEE EACH OF THE WALKOUTS HAS THAT, WHICH THEN, UH, THEY DID A GREAT JOB AND GAVE THE SECOND LEVEL AS THESE ARE FLATS. THEY LOOK SIMILAR TO TOWNHOUSES, BUT THEY'RE FLATS. SO THEY GAVE THE SECOND LEVEL A USABLE PATIO ABOVE [00:20:01] THAT DOOR AS WELL. THEN WE'VE GOT SOME FLAT ELEVATIONS. ALL THE MATERIALS ARE, UM, THE HARD MATERIALS ARE ALL BRICK IN THEIR INTEGRAL COLORS, NO PAINT. UM, SO WE REALLY, WE REALLY LIKE THAT. UH, THE WHITE BRICK, UM, IS NOT A SOLID WHITE COLOR, SO IT'LL BE A, IT SORT OF THROWS IT BACK TOWARDS THAT, A LITTLE MORE TRADITIONAL KIND OF FEEL TO IT. AND HERE YOU'LL SEE, SEE THEIR PACKAGE PAGES. THEY HAVE THREE OF THEM. I BELIEVE THIS IS PROBABLY STAFF'S FAVORITE ONE. I'M REALLY INTERESTED TO SEE THIS BLACK AND HOW IT, HOW THE BRICK COLOR WORKS. AND THEN HERE'S THE WHITE, AND THEN WE'LL GET SOME SITE MATERIALS, HARDSCAPE PICTURES, AND THEN HERE'S YOUR SITE LINES LANDSCAPE. THEIR PRESENTATION IS PROBABLY GONNA LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BASED ON OUR LAST MEETING TOGETHER. UM, SO IF YOU'RE, AS YOU'RE SCROLLING THROUGH YOUR PACKET AND THEY HAVE THEIR PRESENTATION UP, THEY, YOU MAY NOT BE PAGE FOR PAGE, BUT THEY SHOULD BE PRETTY SIMILAR. I LIKE THE PLANT MATERIAL. WE DISCUSSED A, UH, COMMON, UM, CONDITION QUESTION, UM, THAT THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS BRING UP A LOT. I DISCUSSED THAT WITH THEM, MAKE SURE THEY WERE UP ON BOARD. WHEN I SAW THE CONE FLOWER, I SAID, I KNOW THAT NEEDS SUN. MAKE SURE THAT'S NOT UNDER TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THEY, THEY WERE, UM, CORE WAS, WAS UP ON THAT ALREADY AND SAID, NO, ABSOLUTELY. WE'VE, WE'VE TAKEN ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. SO THEN THEY'RE, THEY HAVE, THEY'VE SPLIT IT OUT INTO A FEW DIFFERENT, UM, AREAS THAT THEY'LL WALK THROUGH WITH YOU. I'M NOT GONNA WALK THROUGH EACH OF THEM. UM, I KNOW MR. CORCO, YOU'RE, UM, ALWAYS INTERESTED IN STREETSCAPE. UM, I TOLD THEM TO TALK ABOUT THIS STREETSCAPE ALONG OLD MILTON. SOME OF THE TREES ARE GOING AWAY AND SOME ARE REMAINING. SO THEY CAN TELL YOU WHICH ONES ARE, WHICH ONES ARE, WHICH. OUR INTENT IS TO TRY TO KEEP AS MUCH OF OLD MILTON AND BROOKSIDE AS WE CAN, AS LONG AS IT'S GOOD AND VIABLE BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN THERE A, A GOOD WHILE AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UM, MOOSE, MOST OF THEM, I WILL SAY I THINK ARE IN, ARE PRETTY GOOD SHAPE. LIGHTING. LIGHTING AT THIS STAGE IS REALLY, I THINK, TOUGH TO DO. IT'S, I MEAN, THEY CAN DO, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN GIVE YOU SOME STUFF, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT PROBABLY IS GOING TO POP IN OR COME LATER. BUT, BUT SITE LIGHTING, BASICALLY THEY DID, AND THEY'VE GOT THEIR, THEY'VE GOT THEIR PHOTOMETRICS, WHICH I LOOKED THROUGH AND LOOKS, LOOKS FINE TO ME. AND THEN THEY, THEY GOT SOME PLACEHOLDERS FOR SIGNAGE. AND THAT'S THAT ONE. UH, JOEL HELP ME OUT THERE. I DON'T THINK SO. IT'S NOT IN THE NORTH POINT. I DON'T THINK IT'S IN ANY OVERLAY. BROOKSIDE MASTER PLAN. IT'S IN BROOKSIDE MASTER PLAN. YEAH, BUT THAT'S, YEAH. SO THERE'S NOT LIKE A NORTH POINT A A DOWNTOWN, NONE OF THOSE NEW NEWER UPDATED OVERLAYS. THERE'S, IT'S A MASTER PLAN, BUT YEAH. OKAY. THEN WE'RE GONNA GET TO, UM, L-G-U-S-A-L-G-E-U-S-A. SO THEY CURRENTLY HAVE AN OFFICE BUILDING, UM, ON ROYAL BOULEVARD AT NORTH POINT PARKWAY. UM, WHEN YOU PULL ONTO ROYAL BOULEVARD OFF OF NORTH POINT, WHICH IS ON THE ROYAL DRIVE. ROYAL DRIVE, THAT'S RIGHT. ROYAL BOULEVARD IS FURTHER SOUTH, IT'S FURTHER SOUTH. [00:25:01] ROYAL DRIVE IS UP TO THE, TO THE NORTH. AND IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF, UM, NORTH OF KIMBALL BRIDGE, EAST OF, ON THE EAST SIDE OF NORTH POINT PARKWAY. SO WHEN YOU PULL IN TO THERE TO ROYAL THERE, THIS OFFICE BUILDING EXISTS AND IS THEIRS. AND THIS IS CURRENTLY PARKING AND LANDSCAPE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY WANT TO DO A NEW R AND D BUILDING ON THIS PAD. SO WE'RE BASICALLY FOCUSING JUST ON, JUST ON THIS SIDE OVER HERE. THEY'VE GOT SOME LANDSCAPE IN THERE AND BUILDING ELEVATIONS AND MATERIALS FOR US. AND I BELIEVE, YEAH. HERE'S THE FIRST PERSPECTIVE. SO THIS, THIS IS THE EXISTING BUILDING. IT'S A BRICK AND, UM, EFAS BUILDING, SOMEWHAT, I GUESS YOU'D SAY TRADITIONAL, GOT SOME TRADITIONAL STUFF TO IT ANYWAY. ACTUALLY THAT MAY BE PRE CAP. IT COULD, YES. THAT COULD BE LIGHTER TONES. YEAH. UM, BUILT PRE 2004 WHEN I STARTED. IT WAS THERE WHEN I STARTED, SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHEN, UH, PRIOR TO THAT. BUT, UM, SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S REALLY ANY WAY TO MATCH THE BRICK. SO WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY CAME WITH, THEY'RE COMING FORWARD WITH A METAL PANEL COLOR TO SIMULATE THE BRICK. ONE THING THAT, THAT I, REAL I WANNA POINT OUT IS ALL OF THESE VIEWS BASICALLY ARE, ARE FROM THE DRIVEWAY, FROM THE ROUNDABOUT OF THEM, OF THEIRS. THIS VIEW, I THINK IS TELLING, THIS IS ROYAL BOULEVARD. NORTH POINT PARKWAY IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN ROYAL BOULEVARD AT THIS POINT RIGHT HERE, BECAUSE YOU STILL ARE GOING UP A LITTLE BIT AS YOU COME OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAY TO NORTH POINT PARKWAY. SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE AT LEAST HALF OF THE BUILDING IS BELOW ROAD GRADE, BASICALLY. SO, AND YOU CAN SEE HERE WHERE THEY DID THAT SIGHT LINE. SO YOU'RE STILL GOING UPHILL TO GET TO NORTH POINT PARKWAY UP HERE. YOU'RE GOING AFTER YOU GET OFF NORTH POINT WHERE YOU'RE CURSING AND YOU'RE GOING UP THAT GOES UPHILL. YES. IS IS ROYAL BOULEVARD THE ONE THAT GOES, STARTS DOWN, THEN IT STARTS, IT PEAKS UP THERE AND THEN IT STARTS AT THE BACK DOWN TO THE CHURCH. OKAY. OKAY. AGAIN, IT'S ROYAL. WELL, I WAS THINKING OF, IS ROYAL BOULEVARD THE ONE THAT DOES THE STARTS AND GOES DOWN YES. FROM NORTH POINT? YES, IT DOES. OKAY. I GUESS THAT'S THE ONE THAT I WAS USUALLY ON FROM BRINGING YES. PACKAGES TO MR. KRAMER YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AGO. , SORRY. YEAH, THAT'S A LONG TIME AGO. SO THIS BUILDING IS BASICALLY TAKING OVER THE PARKING LOT THAT'S ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE BUILDING. YEP. BASICALLY TAKING OVER THE PARKING LOT. YEP. ARE THERE NO PARKING ISSUES WITH PARKING COUNTS? NO. THEY'VE, THEY'VE, YES THERE IS. WELL, THEY, I THINK THEY GOT A VARIANCE TO TO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WORKING OUT AN AGREEMENT WITH A NEIGHBORING YES. UH, PARCEL TO WHAT THEY HAVE. ACCESS STAFF IS OKAY WITH THAT. YEAH. WE'LL BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHERE THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE USING, WHERE THE PARKING, WHERE THERE'S ACCESS, WHERE THAT PARKING. PARKING. WELL, THERE'S A, THERE'S A HUGE PARKING LOT RIGHT NEXT TO IT. I DON'T KNOW WHO IT BELONGS TO. YEAH. POINT. BUT THAT'S NORTH POINT CHURCH PARKING. YEAH. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT OF OUR CONCERN. SO ON THIS BOARD, THERE'S ACCESS TO, WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE SURE THERE'S STAFF WILL MAKE SURE THERE'S ACCESS. YEAH. SIDEWALK OR SOMETHING, RIGHT? YEAH. THE STAFF WILL MAKE SURE THAT THAT OKAY. YEAH. THAT, THAT, THAT THAT'S THE CASE. BUT, BUT FOR DESIGN, WE'RE, WE DON'T NEED TO BE, WE DON'T NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON THAT. SO DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT, DO WE NEED TO PROVE A SITE PLAN FOR THE APPLICATION? UM, I LOOKED AND I DON'T THINK WE DO. I THINK, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO A SITE PLAN. I THINK WE NEED TO DO LANDSCAPE AND ELEVATIONS OF MATERIALS. AND [00:30:04] THAT'S THAT 9 0 1. ALRIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. STROGER THIS MORNING? ALRIGHT, NO QUESTIONS. WE'LL ADJOURN THE WORKSHOP SESSION. ALRIGHT, LET'S, UH, GO COFFEE, GET READY TO START OUR PUBLIC HEARING AND SAY FIVE MINUTES. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK FOLKS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, GOOD MORNING [3. CALL TO ORDER] EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA DESIGN REVIEW BOARD PUBLIC HEARING. TODAY IS FRIDAY, DECEMBER 19TH, 2025. WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. LOOKS LIKE A BIG CROWD THIS MORNING. ALRIGHT. JUST A GENTLE REMINDER FOR ALL THOSE PRESENT. IF YOU'LL MAKE SURE YOUR IPHONE CELL PHONES, ELECTRONIC DEVICES ARE ALL, ARE IN THE SILENT MODE. FIRST, FIRST ORDER BUSINESS IS CALLED ORDER. AND THEN WE HAVE ROLL CALL. IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY'S HERE. SO GLAD TO SEE ALL, ALL MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS HERE THIS MORNING. OKAY. WE'RE GONNA STAND, FACE THE FLAG AND HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, DO [6. ITEMS FROM STAFF] WE HAVE ANY ITEMS FROM STAFF THIS MORNING ON A NEW AUDIO VIDEO? HAVE AS FAR AS VOLUMES AND CAMERAS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT? THERE'S A THIRD PARTY COMPANY THAT'S DRIVING ALL OF THAT. AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, JOEL, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT A LOT OF THE CAMERA VIEWS ARE BASED ON THE MICROPHONE. SO MAKE SURE YOU TURN YOUR MICROPHONES ON WHEN YOU'RE GONNA GONNA SPEAK, BECAUSE THE CAMERA VIEWS COME TO THAT. THEY, THEY'RE, IT'S A, IT'S A WHOLE THIRD PARTY PRODUCTION COMPANY BASICALLY THAT'S, THAT'S PUSHING OUR STUFF OUT NOW. SO, UM, WE'RE ALL LEARNING. LAST NIGHT WAS THE FIRST ONE AND IT DIDN'T GO OFF, UH, PERFECTLY. IT WENT OFF. OKAY. BUT, SO THIS IS THE SECOND MEETING, SO FINGERS CROSSED AGAIN. ROUND TWO. YEAH. SO, UM, AND THEN THANK YOU ALL LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR. UM, WHAT, IT WAS A BIG YEAR. IT WAS A BIG YEAR AND I THINK BASED ON A COUPLE OF THE, THE THINGS THAT CAME IN FOR THE LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR, IT'S GONNA BE, UH, IT'S GONNA BE A BIG, BIG 26. I'M NOT REALLY, UH, ALTHOUGH I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE ONLY GOT ONE APPLICATION FOR JANUARY. I THINK EVERYBODY SAVED, THEY'RE SAVING UP FOR FEBRUARY. SO BE PREPARED. WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE HERE FOR TWO DAYS. UM, BUT, UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING ALL YEAR. WE APPRECIATE IT. UM, UH, I WILL SAY THAT SANTA'S SLAY IS SLIGHTLY DELAYED. SO, UM, YOU, YOU MAY SEE AN ELF COME TO YOUR HOME IN THE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE. UM, BUT, BUT SANTA'S SLAY GOT HELD UP SOMEWHERE, POTENTIALLY IN A TARIFF FIGHT. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK ONE OF SANTA'S ELFS WAS HERE. ONE SANTA'S ELF WAS HERE. THANK YOU, MR. MR. KRAMER FOR THAT. SO, UM, BUT THANKS EVERYONE HAVE, HAVE GREAT HOLIDAY FROM ALL OF US AT STAFF. I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE, ARE REALLY, UH, WHAT, WHAT MAKES THE CITY WHAT IT, WHAT IT IS, UM, HOW IT LOOKS AND, AND FEELS. AND, UM, HOPEFULLY WE'VE DONE OUR JOBS FOR YOU GUYS AND, AND MAKING YOUR DECISIONS EASIER. UM, I KNOW SOMETIMES WE WANT MORE THAN WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE TO YOU, BUT, UM, I, I THINK, I THINK WE, WE CAME TOGETHER FOR, UH, PRETTY GOOD, I THINK. I DON'T KNOW. MR. KRAMER, OR DO YOU HAVE YOUR SPEECH OF ALL THE CASES OR IS THAT YOUR JANUARY SPEECH? THAT'S MY JANUARY SPEECH. OKAY. THAT STARTS OFF THE YEAR. OKAY. SO, UM, A RECAP IN JANUARY. SO HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE. IF YOU'RE TRAVELING, TRAVEL SAFE. HAVE A, HAVE A GREAT MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. AND, UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE GONNA MISS JENNIFER NEXT YEAR. UM, OUR NEW MEMBER, UM, IS IS IN THE AUDIENCE WATCHING, SO WE'LL WELCOME HIM NEXT, NEXT YEAR. UM, BUT JENNIFER, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. WE, WE APPRECIATE IT. UM, IT'S BEEN A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE. UM, AND, AND YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA BE MISSED. THANK YOU. MAYBE WE'LL SEE YOU BACK SOMEDAY. YES. AB . YES. POTENTIALLY AT THIS PODIUM INSTEAD [00:35:01] OF UP THERE. SO, YEAH. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE FROM STAFF? ALRIGHT, ANYTHING FROM BOARD MEMBERS THIS MORNING? SO THIS, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA, UM, I HERE LAST MONTH, SO I WANT TO THANK FRANK SWING FOR FILLING IN FOR ME. I HEARD IT WAS AN EFFICIENT MEETING AND WELL RUN AND EVERYTHING, SO WELL DONE. WE ARE EXPECTING THAT TIME TO KEEP GOING LIKE THAT TODAY, RIGHT? MR. SWING? WE, WE WERE, WE WERE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, SO, WELL, I, I, I TRIED TO MAKE UP FOR THAT BY SKIPPING THE LAST APPLICATION. WELL, YOU KNOW, YEAH. THE REST OF THE BOARD WOULDN'T LET ME DO IT. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND, AND JUST A LITTLE THANK YOU TO BOARD MEMBERS FOR YOUR SERVICE THIS YEAR. IT WAS A LITTLE ENVELOPE IN FRONT OF YOU. THANK YOU TOO FOR THANK YOU, RICHARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A VILLAGE. REALLY TAKES ALL OF US TO MAKE THIS ANYWAY, SO ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT, LET'S GET UH, ALRIGHT [7. ITEMS FROM BOARD MEMBERS] ON, UM, ON TO MEETING MINUTES. WE NEED TO APPROVE BOTH THE OCTOBER MEETING MINUTES AND THE NOVEMBER MEETING MINUTES. SO LET'S START WITH NOVEMBER 21ST, 2025, OUR DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEETING MINUTES. UH, I ASSUME EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THOSE, REVIEW 'EM. NO. WHEN DID WE GET THOSE? IT WASN'T IN THE PACKAGE. UM, I DIDN'T SEE THEM POSTED LAST NIGHT, SO ON THE WEBSITE. SO YEAH, I DIDN'T SEE NOVEMBER IN THE PACKAGE. OKAY, THEN LET'S DO THIS, LET'S HOLD OFF APPROVING THE NOVEMBER 21ST MEETING MINUTES. LET'S UPLOADED NOW. YEAH, WELL, WHEN I DOWNLOADED THE PACKAGE, IT WASN'T IN THERE, SO I, I HAVE NOT HAVE TIME TO REVIEW IT. I HAVE NOT REVIEWED THOSE. LET'S, UM, LET'S HOLD OFF ON THE NOVEMBER MEETING MINUTES, BUT WE CAN LOOK AT OR APPROVE, REVIEW AND APPROVE THE OCTOBER 19TH, 2025 MEETING MINUTES. SO I ASSUME EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THOSE, KNOW, HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS TO MAKE A COUPLE. I THINK ONE OF THE VOTES ON THE MEETING MINUTES WAS DIFFERENT THAN I HAD RECORDED. AND THEN SOMEBODY THAT HAD MADE A SECOND ON LOOKING AT FRAME, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S DO THIS. HOLD ON. I THOUGHT I THOUGHT YOU HAD THAT COVER. I CAN BRING IT UP HERE IN A SECOND. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. I'LL STALL LONG ENOUGH FOR YOU TO BRING IT UP, JULIE, JUST SO WE CAN MAKE A CORRECTION FOR OCTOBER 80 MINUTES. I CAN LOOK THAT UP TOO. YEAH, THERE WERE TWO, THERE WERE TWO, THERE WERE TWO CORRECTIONS. OKAY. ONE WAS A VOTE COUNT AND THE OTHER THAT'S CORRECT. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHERE I SECONDED BUT I WASN'T HERE. RIGHT. THAT'S THE ONE, THAT'S THE SECOND. UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THE LAST WHERE IT SAYS VICE CHAIRMAN SCH SWING OFFERED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ELEVATIONS. AND THEN IT SAYS, I SECONDED. I MEAN, I COULD HAVE SECONDED . IT'S ON THE LAST PAGE. CAN WE, CAN WE MAYBE COME BACK TO THAT? ALRIGHT, LET'S DO THAT. ALRIGHT, LET'S SKIP OVER THE OCTOBER MEETING MINUTES THEN. LET'S GET TO, LET'S GET TO NEW BUSINESS APPLICATIONS. OKAY. FIRST UP [1. DRB250041     PNC Bank     4195 Old Milton Parkway review minor exterior changes] THIS MORNING, UH, IS PNC BANK LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE HERE READY TO GO? YES. IF YOU WILL, UM, MAKE SURE YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF THIS MORNING. MM-HMM . SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE AND THEN GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR PACKETS TODAY. SOUNDS GOOD. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. I'M VICKI CHAVEZ. I'M WITH GPD GROUP, THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD FOR THIS PROJECT, AND OUR CLIENT IS PNC BANK. UM, THE PROJECT IS AN INTERIOR RENOVATION WITH MINOR EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS FOR AN EXISTING BANK BUILDING AT 41 95 OLD MILTON PARKWAY. UM, THE OVERVIEW OF THE MODIFICATIONS IN THE EXTERIOR IS TO KIND OF MODERNIZE AND UPDATE THE GREEN COLOR AREAS OF THE BUILDING. UM, OUR INTENT IS JUST TO GIVE IT A MINOR FACE LIFT. UM, IT'S NOT REALLY TO CHANGE ANY COLORS OR REALLY ANY LOOK OF THE BUILDING ITSELF. THE MAJOR PART THAT'S GOING TO BE UPDATED IS, AS YOU KNOW, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, IS THIS BALLER, UM, AREA IN THE ROOF. WE CANNOT REMOVE IT BECAUSE IT'S INTEGRAL TO THE ROOF ITSELF AND WE'RE NOT INTENDING TO ACTUALLY REMOVE THE ROOF. UM, AND IT WILL ALSO ALLOW TO ADD OUR SIGNAGE FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF. UM, THE MINOR UPDATES ALONG THE WINDOW HEADERS IS JUST TO REMOVE THE, UM, ANY DECORATIVE ACCENTS AND JUST SQUARE THEM OFF, AS WELL AS CHANGING OUT THE COLUMNS FROM ROUND TO SQUARE TO KIND OF MIMIC THAT, UM, LANGUAGE THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING ITSELF. UM, THE WINDOWS AS AN ALTERNATE [00:40:01] WE WANT TO POSSIBLY REPLACE AND REMOVE JUST FOR ENERGY PURPOSES. UM, BUT THIS IS ONLY IF THE BUDGET ALLOWS, AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S ONLY AN INTERIOR MODIFICATION. UM, THE WINDOWS MAY REMAIN AS IS, BUT WE DID WANNA PRESENT THE OPTION IN CASE THEY WERE REPLACED. YEP. WHAT IS YOUR PREFERENCE? OUR PREFERENCE IS TO REMOVE 'EM BECAUSE IT WILL, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN UPDATE TO THE BUILDING ITSELF AND TO THE TENANT. UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S A COST ISSUE THAT WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED WITH OUR CLIENT DURING CONSTRUCTION. YES. AGAIN, MOVING AROUND THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, MINOR UPDATES, REPLACING AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, CORRECTING SOME DAMAGES THAT THE BUILDING HAS ON THIS FACADE. AS MENTIONED TOO, BEFORE, WE ARE TRYING, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF FINDING THE BRICK THAT MATCHES. UM, WE ARE AWARE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE CANNOT FIND A POSSIBLE MATCH, THEN THAT DOOR MAY NEED TO BE RE UH, REMAIN OR THAT FENESTRATION, UM, AND EITHER BE REPLACED WITH, YOU KNOW, A STOREFRONT EVEN THOUGH IT'S HIDDEN FROM THE INSIDE. THE FLOOR PLAN DOESN'T REALLY TAKE THAT, UH, PEOPLE ANYWHERE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, NOR DOES IT TAKE PEOPLE FROM THE OUTSIDE INTO THE BUILDING. SO WE WANNA AVOID ANY CONFUSION FOR ANY CLIENTS GOING INTO THE BUILDING. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING CURRENTLY TO FIND A MATCH TO THE EXISTING BRICK. THIS FACADE, AGAIN, JUST UPDATING THE HEADERS FOR THE WINDOWS. UM, NOT MUCH, NOT MANY CHANGES HERE BESIDES JUST SQUARING OFF THE HEADERS AND THIS IS JUST THE DRAFTED ELEVATIONS OF THAT. UM, AND HERE I BELIEVE WHAT WAS IN FILE WAS, YOU KNOW, OUTDATED. UM, THERE WAS SOME REVISIONS TO CORRECT THAT, THAT, UM, THAT DOOR THAT'S BEING REPLACED. SO HERE WE DO SHOW IT IN THIS ELEVATION, THE DRAFTED ELEVATIONS AS WELL. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IT, IT MAY BE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO FIND A CLOSE MATCH, WE MAY HAVE TO AND FILL THE WHOLE BREAK TO JUST MAKE IT MORE, YOU KNOW, SEAMLESS. UM, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT OF THE BRICK AND FINDING THE RIGHT SAMPLE FOR IT. HOW CLOSE ARE YOU TO FINDING WE'RE CLOSE. WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT IS, IT CAN BE DELIVERED TO THE SITE. UM, AND WE ALSO WANNA SEE IT ON SITE ITSELF, LIKE A, MAYBE A MOCK-UP, LIKE A PANEL. YEAH. I THINK IT'S GONNA BE REALLY DIFFICULT EVEN IF YOU FIND THE SAME MM-HMM . MODEL OF BRICK TO MATCH IT JUST BASED ON HOW MANY YEARS IT'S BEEN OUT THERE AND GETTING THE RIGHT GROUT TO MATCH YES. THE RIGHT MORTAR MORTAR ON THAT AND AGING THE MORTAR 20 YEARS. YEAH. LIKE THAT. RIGHT. AND THAT'S THE CHALLENGE IS THAT WE'RE FINDING, I THINK THAT GETTING OURSELVES INTO, IF YOU DID FIND A MATCH, I THINK ALSO THAT YOU, LIKE, I THINK YOU WERE ALLUDING TO THAT THE PI LASTERS, YOU HAVE PYLA TO PI LASTER. I DON'T THINK YOU COULD JUST INFILL IT MM-HMM . RIGHT? I THINK. YEP. CORRECT. UM, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE OTHER DRAFTED ELEVATIONS. UM, THERE WAS A COMMENT REGARDING THE MONUMENT SIGN. UM, WE WILL BE HAVING A MONUMENT SIGN ON AN EXISTING PAD. UM, THERE WAS ON THE SITE A, A MONUMENT SIGN THAT'S TALLER THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. UM, AND IT WAS REMOVED SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 2022 AND 2023. SO OUR INTENT IS TO JUST REUSE THAT EXISTING PAD AND ADD THE BUILDING'S MONUMENT SIGNED TO IT. IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR MONUMENT SIGNED THAN THIS. THERE MAY, WE MAY NEED TO UPDATE THAT, BUT WE'RE GONNA USE PART OF THAT, UM, PAD AT LEAST USE, YOU KNOW, REPLACE IT IN THE SAME LOCATION. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, UM, INSTALL IT IN A NEW LOCATION. WE'RE TRYING TO INSTALL IT IN THE SAME LOCATION SINCE IT'S VISIBLE TO THE STREETS ON. DO YOU THINK YOU GET GOOD VISIBIL? I, I BELIEVE SO. UM, WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE LANDSCAPE AT ALL. UM, AND THE, THE VISIBILITY, THERE'S NO TREES ON THE OTHER SIDE. WE DID GO TO THE SITE OVER MAYBE LATE SUMMER. UM, AND THE TREES ITSELF DOESN'T REALLY COVER THAT AREA AS MUCH. UM, IF YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A TREE HERE AND THEN THERE'S ONE TREE HERE, BUT THE LEAVES DON'T REALLY OUTGROW IT TO THE POINT THAT IT COVERS THE SIGN. OKAY. [00:45:03] HERE YOU KIND OF SEE IT'S A LITTLE BIT ON UPHILL, BUT COMPARED TO THE STREET AND YOUR SIGN'S GONNA BE LOWER, IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT LOWER. YES. YEAH. BUT AS MENTIONED, LIKE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BUSHES AROUND HERE, BUT THERE'S NOT A DIRECT TREE KIND OF COVERING AT THAT LEVEL. THE SIGN, IF YOU CAN SEE HERE YEAH. TOO, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE MONUMENTS ON HAS EVERGREEN LANDSCAPING AT THE BASE, SO OKAY. IT MAY NEED TO BE. OKAY. IS THAT SIGN LIT? DO YOU KNOW? IS THERE ANY, ANY GROUND LIGHTING ON IT? LET ME CHECK REAL QUICK. I DON'T RECALL. UM, IT'S JUST A VERY DARK SIGN. IT IS ILLUMINATED FROM THE, IS IT GROUND LIGHTS? DO YOU KNOW? OR IS IT THAT? I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH OUR, UM, WITH, WITH THE SIGNAGE VENDOR. I DO REMEMBER THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION REGARDING ALPHARETTA CODE THAT SOME, IT'S NOT ALLOWED TO BE ILLUMINATED FROM THE INSIDE VERSUS UM, UP, UP IT FROM THE OUTSIDE. SO I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK, BUT I'M, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I BELIEVE IT'S ELIMINATED WITH THEM. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . SURE THEY WORK WITH, YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'LL BE A SETBACK ISSUE TOO ON WHERE I BELIEVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN HAPPENING WITH THE VENDOR ITSELF. YEAH. I'M LOOKING AT BRETT, HAVE YOU HAD CONVERSATION? OKAY, GOOD. ALRIGHT, I'LL LET YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND THAT'S REALLY MUCH ALL. WE HAVE THE MAJOR ITEMS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED FOR THE PRESENTATION OF THE BUILDING, THE BALUSTRADE REPLACEMENT. UM, I'M SEEING THE, THE ROOF WILL REMAIN IN PLACE. THERE'S NO NEW ROOF GOING ON, NO NEW SHINGLING, NOTHING LIKE THAT. CORRECT. UM, IS IT TIED, IS THAT BALUSTRADE AND THE NEW, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S TIED INTO THAT ROOF, IS IT? YES. SO WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS REALLY TO SQUARE OFF THE BALLAST STRAITS. SO JUST REMOVING AND THEN INFILLING AND JUST REPLACING A REFINISH WITH A DEFECTS. UM, SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO REMOVE LIKE, THE BASE OF IT AT ALL, JUST INFILLING AND SQUARING IT ALL, TRYING TO BE VERY MINIMAL TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO, UM, NOT TRYING TO BE INVASIVE TO THE EXISTING FLASHING OF THE BALLAST STREET AND ALL OF THAT. SO WE DON'T WANNA GET INTO THAT. SO IT'LL STILL HAVE A GAP AT THE BOTTOM FOR WHAT? YES. OKAY. MM-HMM . YEAH. WE'RE TRYING TO DEFINITELY RESPECT THAT FOR THE WATER. AND ON THE DOOR REPLACEMENT. HAS THERE BEEN ANY THOUGHT IF IT, IF YOU CANNOT MATCH THE BRICK OR IF THE CONCERN IS BROUGHT UP BY THIS BOARD MM-HMM . UM, WHAT IF IT JUST BECOMES A, A WINDOW OR SOMETHING YES. TO THAT EFFECT. IS THAT THAT BEEN BROUGHT UP? YES, THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP WITH THE CLIENT. UM, 'CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S GONNA BE DETERMINED BY WHAT THE BRICK, UM, WHETHER IT MATCHES OR NOT, AND THE LOOK OF IT. UM, SO IF WE CAN'T ACHIEVE THAT, THEN THE BEST SOLUTION IS TO PROVIDE A STOREFRONT THAT MIMICS THAT F THAT IS THE SIZE OF THAT FENESTRATION. YES. PROVE THE THING INSPECTION ACTUAL BRICK NECESSARILY THE BEST THING TO HAPPEN, WE TRIED TO, UM, WE'VE TRIED TO DO ASSEMBLE BAKE BUILDINGS. YEAH. UM, AND, AND IT LOOKED REALLY GOOD. GOOD. AND WOULDN'T BE, I THINK IF YOU DO A MOCKUP PANEL THAT'S MM-HMM . STAFF INSPECTS LIKE RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT. MM-HMM. AND IF IT GOES FROM PILASTER TO PILASTER, I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD GET IT. YES. DONE. YEAH. IT WOULD ALMOST FROM THAT BACKSIDE, IT WOULD ALMOST HAVE TO BE WHOLE MM-HMM . THE WHOLE SECTION BETWEEN THE PILE MM-HMM . YES. YEAH. WE DON'T WANNA GET INTO ANY DEMOLITION BEFORE EVEN TRYING TO REMOVE THAT BRICK. SO THE MOCKUP PANEL IS WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED TO DO. IF YOU, UH, INFILL WITH STOREFRONT, I THINK YOU JUST MATCH THE CHARACTER THAT YOU'RE CREATING AROUND THE BUILDING. YEAH. WILL DO. WE'LL DO THAT. YEAH. AND I THINK A POSSIBLE OPTION IS IF YOU SEE THE BRICK AND THE BRICK LOOKS LIKE IT'S RIGHT, IT STILL MIGHT BE SAFER TO DO IT AS LIKE WE WOULD DO WITH A [00:50:01] FAUX WINDOW SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW? SO YOU, YOU LIKE AN INSET, ALMOST LIKE AN INSET YOUR DEAL RESET. EXACTLY. THAT WAY IF IT'S NOT A 100% PERFECT MATCH, I THINK THAT'S GONNA PLAY BETTER THAN IF YOU YOU TRY TO WEAVE IT IN, RIGHT? YEAH. AND THE BEST PART ABOUT IT IS THIS IS THE PARKING LOT DRIVE ENTRANCE SIDE OF THE BUILDING ANYWAY. IT'S NOT THE, SO THAT'S NOT THAT IT DOESN'T NEED DELIVER RIGHT. BACK THERE AT AT LEAST IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA SAY THIS, MY RECOMMENDATION PLACE THE BRICK FROM PYLA TO PILE. YEAH. THAT'S THE CLEANEST WAY TO DO IT. AND THERE'S ENOUGH SEPARATION TRYING TO, YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO, YOU KNOW MM-HMM . KEEP GET IT IN THERE BECAUSE WEAVING IT IN IT, IT HAS TO MATCH. ABSOLUTELY. PERFECT. UM, YEAH. YEAH. AND OUR PREFERENCE IS IF WE CAN'T GET THAT RIGHT MATCH, WE'RE NOT EVEN GONNA TOUCH THE BRICK AND WE'RE GONNA REPLACE IT WITH STOREFRONT, WITH A STOREFRONT BECAUSECAUSE, THERE'S NO POINT OF EV EVEN IF WE KIND OF DO A BOW BORDER WITH A NEW BRICK WITHIN THAT SPACE, IT'S NOT GONNA MATCH, IT'S NOT GONNA LOOK RIGHT. SO ARE YOU THE WINDOW OR STOREFRONT? STOREFRONT WINDOW? THE DOOR IS NOT REALLY, SO YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE A POTENTIAL BOTTOM WHERE YOU'RE GONNA YES. UM, WELL WE WOULD BRING IT DOWN TO THE SILT TO THE EXISTING OPENING. I THINK SHE JUST, IT'LL BE A STOREFRONT TO STRAIGHT TO THE GROUND. STRAIGHT TO THE GROUND. IT JUST WON'T BE A DOOR ITSELF. YEAH. HAVE YOU GUYS CONSIDERED, UM, UH, MR. SCHROEDER BROUGHT IT UP DURING THE WORKSHOP ABOUT ADDITIONAL ARTICULATION TO THE, THE WINDOW REPLACEMENT. THE STOREFRONT WINDOW REPLACEMENT, SOME STYLES IN THE WINDOW. YES. SO THERE, THERE IS THAT OPTION. UM, IT'S, WE CAN DO MIMIC THE, WHAT HE SAID, THE FRONT OF IT. UM, BUT THE PREFERENCE IS TO HAVE IT WITHOUT THE MOANS. UM, IT DOES GIVE IT A MORE CLEANER, MODERN LOOK TO WHAT WE, WE COULD SAVE YOU SOME MONEY AND NOT HAVE YOU REPLACE RIGHT . YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THE, YEAH, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT IT, IT IS CLEANER, MORE MODERN NOT TO HAVE ENTS IN IT, BUT IT DOESN'T FIT THE CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING. MM-HMM . IT FEELS A LITTLE OUT OF PLACE, RIGHT? MM-HMM . IT WAS, I I THINK AS MR. SCHROEDER SAID IT, YOU KNOW, TWO OVER ONE. MM-HMM . IT'D BE LESS MULLIONS, RIGHT? MM-HMM . MM-HMM . IT WOULD MAYBE LOOK A LITTLE MORE MODERN, BUT SOME OF THOSE, THE, THE WINDOWS WITHOUT MULLIONS JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO FIT THE RED BRICK. MM-HMM . RIGHT? TRADITIONAL LOOKING BUILDING. EVEN WITH THE CHANGES THAT YOU MADE. MM-HMM . I WOULD JUST LEAVE IT, IT WAS ME OR, OR, OR LEAVE IT THE WAY IT'S RIGHT. YEAH. WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT. OBVIOUSLY WE WANNA GET THIS PROJECT DONE. UM, AND HAVING MULIAN IN THE NEW STOREFRONT, IF IT IS WITHIN THE BUDGET, WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE FOR MY CLIENT. WELL, I'LL SAY THIS, IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE A VACANT BUILDING BEING MM-HMM . I KNOW IT'S BEEN EMPTY. IF I CAN SEE SOMETHING, TAKE OVER OWNERSHIP OF THAT. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT THIS MORNING? BEFORE THERE'S ANY MOTIONS I WILL ASK, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THIS APPLICATION? PUBLIC COMMENT, WE COMMENT. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, REGARDING DRB 2 5 0 0 4 1 PNC BANK, UM, MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THE EXTERIOR ELEVATION OF MATERIALS AS PRESENTED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. IF THE WINDOWS ARE REPLACED, THE NEW WINDOWS WILL EITHER HAVE MULLINS THE SAME AS THE CURRENT WINDOWS OR TO OVER ONE MILLIONS. IF THE BRICK CANNOT BE MATCHED TO INFILL THE DOOR ON THE WEST FACADE, THE DOOR WILL BE REPLACED WITH A STOREFRONT WINDOW AND STAFF WILL HAVE PRIOR APPROVAL OF THE BRICK SELECTION, UH, BEFORE ANY INFILL OCCURS. AND A MOTION. SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. SWING, A SECOND BY MR. OWENS. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE MOTION? UM, DON'T WE WANT THE BRICK INFILL TO GO MUL? UH, STER TO STER IF IT'S REPLACED? WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE INFILL. I THINK, I THINK THAT WAS IT FOR OKAY. I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO ADD IT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, THAT'D BE FINE. I'D LIKE TO ADD IT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. GO OFFER. WHY DON'T YOU MAKE IT OFFICIAL? ALRIGHT. OKAY. UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE BRICK INFILL. IF THE BRICK IS REPLACED, IT WILL BE REPLACED FROM PY LASTER TO PY LASTER IN THE CENTRAL BAY OF THE, UH, FACADE. OKAY. WE HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT ON THE TABLE FOR MR. OWEN. [00:55:01] GO THROUGH. UH, MR. SWING, DO YOU ACCEPT? I DO. OKAY. OWENS, BUT YOU, YES I DO. ALRIGHT. BOTH PARTIES ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. ALRIGHT, FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MOTION WITH THE FRI AND NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION WITH THE FRIENDLY LIMIT. PLEASE RAISE YOUR 2, 3, 7. ALL OPPOSED PASSES. SEVEN ZERO. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT, GOOD, GOOD. [2. DRB250039     Portman Brookside     3625 Brookside Pkwy review new development] NEXT, NEXT UP THIS MORNING IS, UH, OUR NEXT APPLICANT IS, UH, PORTMAN BROOKSIDE. IT'S LIKE YOU'RE HERE IN FORCE, SO COME ON DOWN PLEASE. SO COME ON UP. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. LOOKS LIKE WE'RE READY TO GO. GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. IF YOU'LL, UH, YOU UP NOW? IT'S GOOD. OKAY. I GOT IT. SORRY. IT'S MY FIRST TIME IN FRONT OF Y'ALL, SO, UH, WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE. THANKS FOR HAVING US CONSIDERING THIS PROJECT. UM, LIKE I SAID, YOU'RE HERE. IT'S GLAD TO, IT'S OUR FIRST TIME IN ALPHARETTA. [01:00:01] IT'S OUR FIRST TIME REALLY KIND OF AWAY FROM OUR CENTRAL CITY FOR A WHILE, SO, UH, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS. UM, WE ARE PUTTING A LOT INTO IT. IT'S, UM, COMPLIMENTARY OF THE GREAT COMMUNITY. IT'S UP HERE, SO I HOPE YOU LIKE IT. UM, THANK YOU. YOU'RE OTP NOW OTP. THAT'S RIGHT. ALRIGHT. I, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T CATCH YOUR NAME. UH, IT'S MIKE GREEN. I'M SORRY. OKAY. UH, I GREW UP OTP, SO PERFECTLY COMFORTABLE BEING ACTIVE . UM, SO I AM, UH, LIKE I SAID, I'M MIKE GREEN, SO I'M THE LEAD DEVELOPER. UM, I AM SUPPORTED BY CLAYTON, WHO'S IN THE BACK, WHO'S HELPING ME OUT HERE. AND THEN THE TEAM, UH, PRESENTING TO YOU, LIKE, I THINK MOST OF THEM YOU GUYS KNOW PRETTY WELL. KIMLEY HORN, UM, JIM HAMILTON, MARK PUTNAM ARE HERE. UH, CORE LANDSCAPING, UH, WHICH IS A PARTNERSHIP CORE A SD, UM, THAT'S LAUREN AND MARK. THEY'RE ALSO HERE. THE ARCHITECTURE FIRM IS NEW, UH, TO Y'ALL. IT'S, UH, SK AND I OUTTA DC. UM, SK AND I AS A FIRM THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH ON A COUPLE OTHER PROJECTS, UM, WE LIKED, UH, WE LIKED THE FACT THAT THEY GOT A LOT OF REPS IN DC ON A PARTICULAR KIND OF HEIGHT AND BUILDING STYLE. AND SO WE FELT LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, DECADES OF THEM WORKED IN THAT LANE, LIKE LED REALLY WELL TO, UH, THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING TYPES HEIGHT AND APOLOGY THAT WE'RE GONNA CREATE HERE. SO, UH, THEY'RE A NEW NEW PARTY HERE, SO. GOOD. LET'S, LET'S DIVE IN. ALRIGHT MAN. SO I'M GOING, UM, HAND IT OVER TO MARK FIRST, RIGHT? YEP. I'M MARK PUTNAM WITH KIMLEY HORN. I'M THE, UH, HEAD CIVIL ENGINEER ON THIS ONE. UH, LOCATED HERE AT 11 7 20 AMBER PARK IN RETTA. GOOD. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT WAS THE INTRODUCTION. LET'S FLIP HERE TO CIVIL REALLY QUICKLY BEFORE WE HAND IT OVER TO, UH, LAUREN AND, AND BRANDON. NOTE WE GOT A MOUSE. WHILE THEY'RE DOING THAT, Y'ALL, UM, THIS PROJECT HAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT ASPECTS TO IT. SO WE ANTICIPATED WE WOULD BE HERE IN FRONT OF, UM, THIS, UH, THIS PIECE OF IT, PARTICULARLY OUT, BUT THERE WERE ELEMENTS OF THIS PROJECT, LIKE SIGNAGE AND RETAIL DETAILS THAT ARE NOT IN THIS PRESENT WE FULLY ANTICIPATE FOR EACH BACK IN FRONT OF YOU. SO THIS PLAN RIGHT HERE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING CURRENTLY TODAY, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WHAT KIND OF BRETT HAD MENTIONED EARLIER ON WITH THE C FOUR, C FIVE, C SIX AND C SEVEN BUILDING, AS WELL AS REALLY THE, THE C3, THERE'S SOME ALTERNATIVES THAT ARE BEING, UH, DISCUSSED THERE WITH STAFF CURRENTLY. UM, SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON MOSTLY TODAY IS GOING TO BE THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, UM, AND THEN THE LANDSCAPE COMPONENT. ALRIGHT, SO ORIENT YOUR YOURSELVES HERE. THIS IS OLD MILTON. UH, THIS IS, UH, PLAN NORTH. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN. OLD MILTON IS, UH, UP HERE. THAT'S A GDO ROADWAY. THERE'S THE EXISTING STREET TREES THAT, UM, WERE, WERE MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE WORK SESSION. THE, THE CURRENT RIDE IN RIDE OUT AND D CELL RIGHT TURN LANE INTO THE SITE IS, IS APPROXIMATELY ABOUT RIGHT HERE ON THE SITE PLAN. WE ARE GONNA BE RELOCATING THAT 200 FEET UPHILL, UM, TO ALIGN WITH, WITH, WITH THE NEW STREET THAT'S RUNNING DOWN. THAT KIND OF ALIGNS WITH THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING. UM, WITH, WITH RELOCATING THAT, THAT DESAL LANE. WE'VE, WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT WITH DDOT. THAT WILL BE A FEW TREES THAT HAVE TO GET REMOVED AS A PORTION OF THAT DESAL LANE, BUT THE REST OF THE STREET TREES ALONG OLD MILTON WILL BE REMAINING. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THE INTERSECTION AT, UH, BROOKSIDE PARKWAY IN OLD MILTON. WHEN YOU TURN DOWN BROOKSIDE PARKWAY, THE FIRST ENTRANCE THAT YOU GET TO IS A RIDE IN RIDE OUT THAT IS CURRENTLY, UH, ON THE BANK'S PROPERTY ON THE CORNER THAT WE HAVE A SHARED ACCESS AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS US TO GO INTO THERE, BUT WE HAVE NO, UH, PLANS OR CAPABILITY TO MODIFY THAT INTERSECTION. THE NEXT IN ENTRANCE INTO THE SITE IS THE EXISTING, UH, ENTRANCE INTO THE OFFICE PARK [01:05:01] OFF BROOKSIDE PARKWAY. WE'RE KEEPING THE LOCATION OF IT, BUT WE ARE MODIFYING THE CURB CUT ACCESS INTO THE SITE. THERE'S CURRENTLY A MEDIAN THAT'S GOING INTO THERE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO BE REMOVING, UM, TO THE WEST OF THE SITE IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT GRAY CHANGE THAT DROPS DOWN. THAT GOES DOWN TO BROOKSIDE PARK, WHICH IS A CITY OF ALPHARETTA, UM, UH, AMENITY. AND THEN ONCE YOU GO THROUGH BROOKSIDE PARK, YOU HAVE BIG CREEK GREENWAY, UH, THAT'S ON ACTUALLY THE WEST SIDE OF BIG CREEK. UH, NOT, IT'S NOT SHOWN IN THIS APPLICATION, BUT IN LATER APPLICATIONS. AND WE ARE IN STAFF, WE ARE WITH STAFF CURRENTLY WORKING ON HOW WE ARE GOING TO PROPOSE AN ALIGNMENT THROUGH BROOKSIDE PARK CROSSING OVER THE BIG CREEK AND THEN CONNECTING TO THE GREENWAY. BUT THAT CONNECTION, UH, WILL, WILL HAPPEN UP HERE CLOSE TO OLD OLD MILTON, WHICH IS WHERE THERE'S, THERE'S AN EXISTING SIDEWALK THAT GETS DOWN FROM OLD MILTON TO, TO BROOKSIDE PARK. UM, THAT, THAT CONNECTION IS IMPORTANT TO US. UH, WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. BUT YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A, A LARGE MIXED USE TRAIL THAT COMES FROM BROOKSIDE PARK THAT GOES OFF OF BROOK, OFF OF OLD MILTON AND BEHIND THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE, THE, THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE THAT'S GOING THROUGH THE SITE. THIS IS ALSO DOUBLING AS A FIRE ACCESS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL ALPHARETTA. UM, SO IT'S A 12 FOOT WIDE, AND THEN WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL, UM, GRASS PAVE SYSTEM THAT'S NEXT TO IT THAT'S GONNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE FIRETRUCK THAT GOES THROUGH. BUT THE, THE REAL, THE, THE KEY COMPONENT TO THAT IS THE PEDESTRIAN MIXED USE EXPERIENCE. UM, THE, THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING IS CURRENTLY PARKED WITH A PARKING DECK THAT'S SURROUNDED BY, BY THE BUILDING ALL THE WAY AROUND. THERE'S COMMERCIAL RETAIL SPACE UNDERNEATH THE PODIUM, UH, THAT'S ON THIS STREET A THAT COMES IN OFF OLD MILTON. THERE IS ALSO THE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 STANDALONE BUILDINGS. AND THEN THERE'S A COFFEE SHOP STANDALONE BUILDING THAT'S CLOSE TO THE AMPHITHEATER. THE AMPHITHEATER, AGAIN, IS, IS NOT INCLUDED IN IN THIS APPLICATION, BUT THAT JUST GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A, A LAYOUT OF, OF THE SITE STORM WATER WISE. THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WAS BUILT IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, HAS TWO CURRENT PONDS. THERE'S, THERE'S ONE POND THAT'S ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER THAT WE ARE GOING TO, UH, RETROFIT TO MEET CURRENT STANDARDS. IT'S GONNA INCLUDE A TWO-SIDED WALL, AND THEN THE BERM, THAT'S A BUDDING BROOKSIDE PARK. WE'LL BE JUST MODIFYING THE BERM TO BRING IT TO CURRENT STANDARDS. AND THEN THE OTHER STORMWATER CONTROLS ON THE SITE. SO THAT WILL BE OUR, OUR MAIN, UH, RUNOFF REDUCTION. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE PERMEABLE PAVERS THAT'S ON THE, UH, FIRE LANE THAT'S BETWEEN THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING AND THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING. AND THEN WE'LL ALSO BE INCORPORATING WITH, WITH THE RETAIL DIFFERENT BIOSWELLS, UH, TREE, TREE, UM, STORM WATER PLANTERS AND UM, AND BIO RETENTION AREAS. AND THEN FOR PARKING, THE MAJORITY OF THE PARKING IS ALL WITHIN THE PARKING, PARKING DECK ITSELF. THERE IS SURFACE PARK AND PARALLEL PARKING WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH REZONING WITH CITY COUNCIL, WE PREPARED A SHARED, UM, PARKING STUDY THAT SHOWED AMPLE PARKING FOR THE SITE AND SPEC SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PARCEL. UM, THIS PHASE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT MIGHT BE A LITTLE, UM, CONFUSING IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PARKING COUNT BECAUSE WE'RE STILL COUNTING ALL THE SURFACE PARK THAT'S DOWN HERE ON THE SOUTH. THIS IS GONNA BE PRESENTED IN A LATER DRB, UM, AND ALSO LATER TO CITY COUNCIL. UM, THIS SURFACE PARKING WILL, WILL GO AWAY AND IT WILL BE DE DEVELOPED. UM, AND YEP, GO RIGHT AHEAD. WHILE YOU'RE ON PARKING, JUST CAN JUST OUTLINE WHERE THE PARKING DECK IS YES. FOR CLARITY. AND THEN SHOW US WHERE ANY SURFACE PARKING ORIENTATION. PERFECT. SO SURFACE PARKING, UM, SORRY, THE PARKING DECK IS, IS RIGHT HERE. IT'S A, IT'S SIX STORY PARKING DECK. IT'S GOT THREE BAYS IN IT, FAIRLY LARGE, 800 PLUS SPACES. AND, AND AGAIN, THAT'S COMPLETELY WITHIN THE ENVELOPE OF THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PARKING DECKS? THERE ARE NO OTHER PARKING DECKS PROPOSED IN THIS SPACE. SO EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE SURFACE, EVERYTHING ELSE IS SURFACE PARKING. AS YOU COME IN STREET A, WE'VE GOT PARALLEL PARKING ALONG BOTH SIDES OF STREET A. STREET B HAS CURRENTLY AS SHOWN, UH, HEAD END PARKING 90 DEGREES ALONG STREET B. AND LIKEWISE, STREET C HAS, UH, SURFACE PARKING AS CURRENTLY SHOWN. AND THEN SO THE ENTRANCE, ENTRANCE AND OR EXIT TO THE PARKING DECK IS, [01:10:02] YEP. SO THE, THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO THE PARKING DECK IS GONNA BE OFF OF STREET A THAT'S RIGHT HERE. IT GOES UNDERNEATH THE CONCRETE PODIUM BETWEEN THE RETAIL UNITS AND INTO THE PARKING DECK. THERE IS A AUXILIARY, UM, ENTRANCE EXIT THAT'S GONNA MOSTLY BE USED FOR VALET ONLY. THAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE HERE. UM, BUT THEN AS, AS THE, THE, THE PLAN DEVELOPS, AS THE DEVELOPMENT MOVES FORWARD, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OPTIONS FOR HAVING MUSIC VENUES INSIDE THIS AMPHITHEATER THAT THAT SECONDARY ENTRANCE COULD BE OPENED UP, UM, DURING LARGE EVENTS SO THAT THERE'S, THERE'S MORE FLOW COMING OUT OF THE PARKING DECK. THESE ARE ALL PRIVATE STREETS. ALL PEOPLE CAN YOU TALK, THE PUBLIC WILL BE. YEP. OKAY. YES, SIR. CAN YOU TALK FOR A SECOND ABOUT, UM, UH, HOW THE DEVELOPMENT WILL DEAL WITH DELIVERIES, TRASH AND MOVE IN, MOVE OUT FOR THE MULTIFAMILY? YES. SO THE KIND OF LOOKING AGAIN AT THIS BUILDING ALL REALLY ALL THE BUILDINGS THAT THERE'S NOT REALLY A, A BACK OF HOUSE TO, TO ANY OF THESE. UM, SO ALL THE, UH, TRASH FOR THE RETAIL WITHIN THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, THE TRASH FOR THE RESIDENCE, AND THEN ALSO THE LOADING IS GONNA BE INTERIOR TO THE BUILDING, BUT BEHIND THE FACADE, UM, THAT'S HERE OFF OF THIS, THE, THE FIRE LANE, AGAIN, THIS, THIS STREET, THIS FIRE LANE IS NOT OPEN 24 7 FOR VEHICLES GOING THROUGH. IT'S, IT'S AGAIN, JUST FOR, UH, CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY WHEN TRASH WILL BE PICKED UP AND THEN ALSO OPEN FOR LOADING AND THEN VALET ONLY. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AS, AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PLAN HERE, THIS IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, FURTHEST AWAY FROM OLD MILTON. WE'LL HAVE, UH, RESIDENTIAL LOADING AND RETAIL LOADING. MOVING IN RIGHT HERE ON THE THE LEFT, YOU'VE GOT RESIDENTIAL TRASH, AGAIN, INTERIOR TO THE BUILDING, UH, BEHIND CLOSED GATES, CLOSED DOORS. AND THEN THE RETAIL TRASH ROOM IS, IS RIGHT HERE. SO THAT'S FOR THE MULTIFAMILY, THE, THE STANDALONE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. AND AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT'S SHOWN CURRENTLY AND WE'RE WORKING WITH STAFF TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS HERE, BUT THERE IS CURRENTLY A EXTERIOR TRASH ENCLOSURE THAT IS IN, IN THIS CORNER HERE. UM, I THINK BRETT HAD MENTIONED IT SLIGHTLY, BUT THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD GRADE CHANGE BETWEEN THE, THE BANK PARCEL AND, AND THESE RETAIL BUILDINGS. THIS KIND OF DASHED BLACK AND WHITE LINE HERE IS A RETAINING WALL, THAT WALL IS GONNA BE EXTENDED UP ON, ON THIS, ON THIS, UH, SIDE HERE, SO THAT IT ACTUALLY COMPLETELY COVERS ANY TRASH ENCLOSURE. YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT AS YOU'RE COMING IN OFF OF BROOKSIDE PARKWAY. SO WITH THE, THE TRASH ROOMS THAT YOU HAVE AT THE, THE PARKING DECK, UM, HOW DO TRUCKS ACCESS THE TRASH? ARE THEY ROLLOUTS OR, UH, IS THERE A COMPACTOR THERE? SO THE, WHAT'S THE ACCESS? CURRENTLY WHAT WE HAVE PLAN SHOWN IS COMPACTOR WITHIN, WITH ROLLOUTS TWO CUBIT GUARD ROLLOUTS. BUT WE'RE, WE'RE EXPLORING OPTIONS THERE OF POSSIBLY DOING A, A LARGER COMPACTOR WITH A, SO THE TRUCK CAN ACTUALLY DRIVE IN AND ROLL IT OFF. YEAH, I I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THERE'D BE A LOT OF PICKUPS AND, AND ROLLOUTS. UH, I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF A BACK OF HOUSE AREA. AND, AND FOR THE RESIDENTIAL, UM, MOVE-IN, THAT'S THE LOADING SPACE EVEN FOR THE UNITS THAT ARE IN THE, UH, THE U-SHAPED BUILDING ADJACENT IS, IS THAT THE ONLY ACCESS FOR MOVE-INS? THIS, THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL MOVE-IN, YES. FOR THE ENTIRE BUILDING. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CIVIL BEFORE I HAND IT OVER TO, UM, YEAH, SO WALK US THROUGH OR SHOW US WHERE ALL THE WALLS ARE. PERFECT. SOME YOU'RE CALLING SOME RETAINING WALLS OR SOME OTHER YEP. SO IF WE START IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER, WE HAVE THE L-SHAPED RETAINING WALL HERE. THAT IS, UH, AGAIN, AROUND THE EXISTING POND, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT OF THE POND. SO WE'RE EXPANDING, UH, THE, THE POND SIZE FOR THE VOLUMES THAT ARE REQUIRED. SO THERE'LL BE A, A WALL HERE WITHIN THE POND. AND THERE IS NO WALL THERE NOW, CORRECT? THERE IS NO WALL THERE TODAY. OKAY. IT'S JUST A, JUST A DEPRESSION. YEAH. AND THEN, SO IF I'M STANDING, OR, UM, WHICH SIDE DO I SEE THE WALL FROM? I GUESS I'M STANDING INSIDE THE DETENTION. SO IF YOU'RE STANDING IN INSIDE THE POND, THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING IS GONNA BE ON THE HIGH SIDE. RIGHT? SO THE FIRE LANE AND THIS, UH, SIDEWALK MIXED USE TRAIL THAT GOES DOWN TO BROOKSIDE PARK IS ALL ON THE HIGH SIDE OF THE WALL. SO I ASSUME THEN THERE, THERE'LL BE SOME PROTECTION OR PROTECTION ON WALL. YEP, ABSOLUTELY. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY PLANNING ON THE LEG THAT RUNS PARALLEL TO THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING AND PARALLEL TO THE FIRE LANE WILL HAVE, UH, RAILING FALL PROTECTION ALONG [01:15:01] THAT SIDE. THE FRONT WALL FACE THAT FACES OLD MILTON, WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA EXTEND THAT WALL UP. SO YOU'LL HAVE A, A BRICK WALL UP, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE, UM, A RAILING THAT'S ON TOP OF IT, NOT REALLY NEEDED FOR FALL PROTECTION, BUT TO CONTINUE TO LOOK. UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS OF IT. OKAY. WHAT'S EXPOSED THERE? SO THAT'S GONNA BE A BRICK WHAT BRICK FACE WITH THE, THE RAILING ABOVE. RIGHT. VERY GOOD. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND THEN MOVING ACROSS THE SITE HERE, WHEN YOU COME IN OFF OLD MILTON, UH, OLD MILTON IS GONNA BE HIGH. WE'RE, WE'RE DROPPING DOWN INTO THE SITE. SO AS YOU DROP INTO THE SITE, TRYING TO MAXIMIZE FLAT FLOOR SPACE FOR MULTIPLE, FOR THE ACCESS FOR, UH, TENANTS SO THAT WE CAN MOVE DEMISING WALLS AS NEEDED AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT STEPS IN THE BUILDING. WE'VE INCORPORATED SOME, SOME SMALLER WALLS BETWEEN THE MO THE RETAIL AND, AND THE STREET LEVEL. ALL THESE WALLS WILL BE LESS THAN 30 INCHES, SO NO FALL PROTECTION IS GONNA BE ON, ON ANY OF THESE WALLS. UM, MOST OF 'EM WILL BE HIDDEN WITH LANDSCAPING. UH, THE A AS AS CURRENTLY SHOWN, THE ROAD IS GONNA BE KIND OF ON THE HIGH SIDE. UM, YOU CAN SEE THE POCKETS BETWEEN THE WALLS WHERE PEDESTRIANS WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS INTO THE SITE VIA WHEELCHAIR. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO POCKETS WHERE YOU HAVE STAIRS THAT GO IN INTO THE KIND OF RETAIL. SO WE HAVE THE KIND OF COLLECTOR DISTRIBUTOR SIDEWALK ALONG BOTH SIDES OF STREET A AND THEN YOU HAVE THE RETAIL, UH, PLAZA AREAS THAT ARE BEHIND LANDSCAPING. SO IF I'M IN THE RETAIL PLAZA AREA, BRICK FACED WALL ON, ON, YES. SAFE AS ON THE NORTH SIDES? YES. ON THE BRICK FACE WALL, AS YOU MOVE SOUTH, YOU'LL ACTUALLY BE ABOVE. SO IF YOU'RE STANDING HERE OUT IN FRONT OF C3 C, RIGHT, YOU'LL BE ABOVE THE ROAD AS, AS YOU MOVE UP HERE, YOU'RE LEVEL WITH THE ROAD AND YOU KEEP MOVING UP. NOW YOU'RE GONNA BE APPROXIMATELY 30 INCHES LOWER THAN THE ROAD. SO THAT'S, THAT'S AS YOU, AS YOU MOVE DOWN STREET A AND THAT'S ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FRONTAGE. AS YOU KEEP MOVING DOWN AND YOU, YOU TURN ONTO STREET B, THERE'S NO RETAINING WALLS AT ALL. UM, NEW, ANY PROPOSED RETAINING WALLS, MORE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SITE, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE, BETWEEN THE BANK AND THESE TWO C FOUR C FIVE RETAIL RESTAURANT BUILDINGS, THERE'S A WALL THAT VARIES IN HEIGHT UP TO EIGHT FEET, UM, OF, OF EARTH RETENTION. NOW, AS YOU MOVE AROUND THE CORNER OVER HERE BY THE DUMPSTERS, WE'RE EXTENDING THAT WALL UP TO COVER THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE. SO THERE, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE ON THE, THE, THE, THE ROADWAY SIDE LOOKING, YOU'RE ON THE HIGH SIDE. UM, THIS WILL BE DOWN, UM, BELOW, BELOW THE ROAD. SO BOTH OF THESE, THE BANK PARCEL IS HIGHER THAN THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. IS THAT, UH, UH, THE RETAINING WALL THAT'S PROPOSED AROUND, UH, BUILDING C FOUR AND C FIVE? IS THAT LIKE A, A GEO WALL OR, UH, SO, SO THE, THE BACKSIDE OF IT, YEAH. YEAH. WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT IN MSE BLOCK WITH, UM, WITH GEOGRID ON IT, JUST BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY VISIBLE AT ALL. UM, AS YOU MOVE AROUND TO THE EAST, BECAUSE THIS ONE IS VISIBLE AS YOU'RE COMING IN, IT WOULD BE MATCHING THE SAME, UH, ARCHITECTURE THAT WE'RE SHOWING ON THE OTHER WALLS WITH THE BRICK, UH, MARK, HELP ME UNDERSTAND, WHAT IS M UH, MECHANICALLY STABILIZED EARTH THOUGH? IT'S, IT'S A GRID SPLIT BLOCK WALL WITH GEO GRID RUNNING BACK. OKAY. AND THAT IS ALL THE WALLS. CAN I ASK, OH, SORRY, GO AHEAD. CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THE WHOLE LOADING AREA? YEP. UM, HAVE YOU GUYS DONE, UH, TRUCK RADIUS STUDIES TO MAKE SURE THAT GARBAGE TRUCK TRUCKS AND TRACTOR TRAILERS COULD GET BACK THERE FOR DELIVERIES? ABSOLUTELY. YEP. SO WE WE'RE NOT EXPECTING TRACTOR TRAILERS GOING BACK FOR THIS. SO THIS IS LOOKING AT YOUR 40 FOOT STANDARD TRUCK SIZES FOR, YOU KNOW, ROLL OFFS FOR DUMPSTERS OR YOUR, YOUR LARGEST U-HAUL TRUCK, UM, THAT WOULD GO IN THERE. YOUR 26 FOOT BOX TRUCK. THE FIRE LANE THAT YOU SEE HERE WITH THE PERME PAVERS IS 26 FOOT WIDE. AND THEN WE, WE ARE NOT PUTTING VERTICAL CURB ON IT. SO YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL FIVE FOOT, UH, HEAVY DUTY CONCRETE SIDEWALK ON BOTH SIDES. SO NOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 36 FOOT OF A PAVEMENT. WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, LARGE, LIKE CISCO DELIVERIES FOR RESTAURANTS AND THINGS? UM, SOMETIMES YOU SEE SOME PRETTY BIG TRUCKS. MM-HMM . THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE EARLY IN THE MORNING OR, YEAH. AND, AND IN THOSE SITUATIONS IT WOULD BE PULL IN, PULL OUT. IT WOULDN'T BE A TURNAROUND. AND, AND THAT WOULD, THAT, UH, LOADING AREA WOULD SERVICE ALL OF THE RETAIL BUILDINGS FROM THAT POINT, JUST WITH JUST THE RETAIL THAT'S UNDERNEATH THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING. OKAY. THE, THE OTHER ONES [01:20:01] IN FRONT OF THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE. THAT'S THE LOADING. WE HAVE TWO LOADING SPACES HERE. OKAY. SURE. UM, YES. BIG PICTURE. YEP. FOR YOUR LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT FOR THIS, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH, I KNOW YOU GAVE US THE OUTLINE OF EVERY, SO MM-HMM . THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO FOR, I CALL IT FOR PHASE ONE, CORRECT? YEP. SO YOU'RE GONNA, ESSENTIALLY, IF YOU KIND OF SPLIT THE, IT'S A 20 ACRE SITE, YOU KIND OF SPLIT IT IN HALF, RIGHT? RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE. PHASE ONE IS EVERYTHING NORTH. PHASE TWO WOULD BE EVERYTHING SOUTH. SO PHASE ONE WOULD BE DEMOLISHING THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING. OKAY. UM, MASQUERADING, WE'RE GONNA BE CUTTING, CUTTING PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY, I THINK TOTAL TODAY BETWEEN THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION OF THE BANK AND, UH, OFFICE BUILDING NUMBER TWO IS 13 FEET OF GRADE CHANGE. SO CUTTING THIS, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE WHERE THE FOUR C FOUR C FIVE C SIX SEVEN RETAIL BUILDINGS ARE CUTTING THAT DOWN, INSTALLING THAT WALL, THAT'S THE, THE MAJOR EARTH WORK MOVEMENT. OKAY. UM, AND THEN INSTALLING UTILITIES, UH, FOR, FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE HERE IN, IN PHASE, PHASE ONE. OKAY. SO ARE YOU ABLE FOR PHASE ONE TO BALANCE THIS SIZE? YES. YOU'RE ABLE TO MOVE? YEP. ALRIGHT. CURIOUS WITH THE BUILDING, THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING THAT'S COME USED. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS FROM STAFF THIS MORNING ON A NEW AUDIO VIDEO? HAVE ROLL OVER ANY OR VOLUMES AND CAMERAS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT? THERE'S A THIRD PARTY COMPANY THAT'S DRIVING ALL OF THAT. AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, JOEL, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT A LOT OF THE CAMERA VIEWS ARE BASED ON THE MICROPHONE. SO MAKE SURE YOU TURN YOUR MICROPHONES ON WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO GONNA SPEAK, BECAUSE THE CAMERA VIEWS COME TO THAT. THEY, THEY'RE, IT'S A, IT'S A WHOLE THIRD PARTY PRODUCTION COMPANY BASICALLY THAT'S, THAT'S PUSHING OUR STUFF OUT NOW. SO, UM, WE'RE ALL LEARNING. LAST NIGHT WAS THE FIRST ONE AND IT DIDN'T GO OFF, UH, PERFECTLY. IT WENT OFF. OKAY. BUT, SO THIS IS THE SECOND MEETING, SO FINGERS CROSSED AGAIN. ROUND TWO. YEAH. SO, UM, AND THEN THANK YOU ALL LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR. UM, WHAT, IT WAS A BIG YEAR. IT WAS A BIG YEAR AND I THINK BASED ON A COUPLE OF THE, THE THINGS THAT CAME IN FOR THE LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR, IT'S GONNA BE, UH, IT'S GONNA BE A BIG, BIG 26. I'M NOT REALLY, UH, ALTHOUGH I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE ONLY GOT ONE APPLICATION FOR JANUARY. I THINK EVERYBODY SAVED, THEY'RE SAVING UP FOR FEBRUARY. SO BE PREPARED. WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE HERE FOR TWO DAYS. UM, BUT, UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING ALL YEAR. WE APPRECIATE IT. UM, UH, I WILL SAY THAT SANTA'S SLAY IS SLIGHTLY DELAYED. SO, UM, YOU, YOU MAY SEE AN ELF COME TO YOUR HOME IN THE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE. UM, BUT, BUT SANTA'S SLAY GOT HELD UP SOMEWHERE, POTENTIALLY IN A TARIFF FIGHT. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK ONE OF SANTA'S ELFS WAS HERE. ONE ELF WAS HERE. THANK YOU, MR. MR. KRAMER FOR THAT. SO, UM, BUT THANKS EVERYONE HAVE, HAVE GREAT HOLIDAY FROM ALL OF US AT STAFF. I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE, ARE REALLY, UH, WHAT, WHAT MAKES THE CITY WHAT IT, WHAT IT IS, UM, HOW IT LOOKS AND, AND FEELS. AND, UM, HOPEFULLY WE'VE DONE OUR JOBS FOR YOU GUYS AND, AND MAKING YOUR DECISIONS EASIER. UM, I KNOW SOMETIMES WE WANT MORE THAN WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE TO YOU, BUT, UM, I, I THINK, I THINK WE, WE CAME TOGETHER FOR, UH, PRETTY GOOD, I THINK. I DON'T KNOW. MR. KRAMER, OR DO YOU HAVE YOUR SPEECH OF ALL THE CASES OR IS THAT YOUR JANUARY SPEECH? THAT'S MY JANUARY SPEECH. OKAY. THAT STARTS OFF THE YEAR. OKAY. SO, UM, A RECAP IN JANUARY. SO HAPPY HOLIDAYS, EVERYONE. IF YOU'RE TRAVELING, TRAVEL SAFE. HAVE A, HAVE A GREAT MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. AND, UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE GONNA MISS JENNIFER NEXT YEAR. OUR NEW MEMBER, UM, IS IS IN THE AUDIENCE WATCHING, SO WE'LL WELCOME HIM NEXT, NEXT YEAR. UM, BUT JENNIFER, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. WE, WE APPRECIATE IT. UM, IT'S BEEN A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE. UM, AND, AND YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA BE MISSED. THANK YOU. MAYBE WE'LL SEE YOU BACK SOMEDAY. [01:25:01] YES. AB . YES. POTENTIALLY AT THIS PODIUM INSTEAD OF UP THERE, SO, YEAH. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE FROM STAFF? ALRIGHT, ANYTHING FROM BOARD MEMBERS THIS MORNING? SO THIS, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA, UM, I HERE LAST MONTH, SO I WANT TO THANK FRANK SWING FOR FILLING IN FOR ME. I HEARD IT WAS AN EFFICIENT MEETING AND WELL RUN AND EVERYTHING, SO WELL DONE. WE ARE EXPECTING THAT TIME TO KEEP GOING LIKE THAT TODAY, RIGHT? MR. SWING? WE, WE WERE, WE WERE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, SO, WELL, I, I, I TRIED TO MAKE UP FOR THAT BY SKIPPING THE LAST APPLICATION. WELL, YOU KNOW, YEAH. THE REST OF THE BOARD WOULDN'T LET ME DO IT. ALRIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND, AND JUST A LITTLE THANK YOU TO BOARD MEMBERS FOR YOUR SERVICE THIS YEAR. IT WAS A LITTLE ENVELOPE IN FRONT OF YOU. THANK YOU TOO FOR THANK YOU, RICHARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A VILLAGE. REALLY TAKES ALL OF THIS TO MAKE THIS. ANYWAY, SO ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT, LET'S GET, GET, UH, ALRIGHT ON, UM, ONTO MEETING MINUTES. NEED TO APPROVE BOTH THE OCTOBER MEETING MINUTES AND THE NOVEMBER MEETING MINUTES. SO LET'S START WITH NOVEMBER 21ST, 2025, OUR DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEETING MINUTES. UH, I ASSUME EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THOSE, REVIEW 'EM. NO. WHEN DID WE GET THOSE? IT WASN'T IN THE PACKAGE. UM, I DIDN'T SEE THEM POSTED LAST NIGHT, SO ON THE WEBSITE. SO YEAH, I DIDN'T SEE NOVEMBER IN THE PACKAGE. OKAY. THEN LET'S DO THIS, LET'S HOLD OFF APPROVING THE NOVEMBER 21ST MEETING. MINUTE. IT'S UPLOADED NOW. YEAH, WELL, WHEN I DOWNLOADED THE PACKAGE, IT WASN'T IN THERE, SO I I HAVE NOT, I DIDN'T HAD TIME TO REVIEW IT. I HAVE NOT REVIEWED THOSE. LET'S, UM, LET'S HOLD OFF ON THE NOVEMBER MEETING MINUTES, BUT WE CAN LOOK AT OR APPROVE, REVIEW AND APPROVE THE OCTOBER 19TH, 2025 MEETING MINUTES. SO I ASSUME EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THOSE, YOU KNOW, HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS TO MAKE A COUPLE. I THINK ONE OF THE VOTES ON THE MEETING MINUTES WAS DIFFERENT THAN I HAD RECORDED. AND THEN SOMEBODY THAT HAD MADE A SECOND, I'M LOOKING AT FRAME, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S DO THIS. HOLD ON. I THOUGHT I THOUGHT YOU HAD THAT COVER. I CAN BRING IT UP HERE IN A SECOND. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. I'LL STALL LONG ENOUGH FOR YOU TO BRING IT UP. SO JUST SO WE CAN MAKE A CORRECTION. OCTOBER MEETING MINUTES. I COULD LOOK THAT UP TOO. YEAH, THERE WERE TWO, THERE WERE TWO, THERE WERE TWO CORRECTIONS. OKAY. ONE WAS A VOTE COUNT AND THE OTHER THAT'S CORRECT. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHERE I SECONDED, BUT I WASN'T HERE. RIGHT. THAT'S THE ONE, THAT'S THE SECOND. UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THE LAST WHERE IT SAYS VICE CHAIRMAN SHWE OFFERED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ELEVATIONS. AND THEN IT SAYS, I SECONDED IT. I MEAN, I COULD HAVE SECONDED . IT'S ON THE LAST PAGE. CAN WE, CAN WE MAYBE COME BACK TO THAT? ALRIGHT, LET'S DO THAT. I'LL, UH, LET'S SKIP OVER THE OCTOBER MEETING MINUTES THEN. LET'S GET TO, LET'S GET TO NEW BUSINESS. OKAY. FIRST UP THIS MORNING, UH, IS PNC BANK LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE HERE READY TO GO? YES. IF YOU WILL, UM, MAKE SURE YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF THIS MORNING. MM-HMM. SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE AND THEN GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE HAVE AT OUR PACKETS TODAY. SOUNDS GOOD. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. I'M VICKI CHAVEZ. I'M WITH GPD GROUP, THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD FOR THIS PROJECT, AND OUR CLIENT IS PNC BANK. UM, THE PROJECT IS AN INTERIOR RENOVATION WITH MINOR EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS FOR AN EXISTING BANK BUILDING AT 41 95 OLD MILTON PARKWAY. UM, THE OVERVIEW OF THE MODIFICATIONS IN THE EXTERIOR IS TO KIND OF MODERNIZE AND UPDATE THE CREAM COLOR AREAS OF THE BUILDING. UM, OUR INTENT IS JUST TO GIVE IT A MINOR FACE LIFT. UM, IT'S NOT REALLY TO CHANGE ANY COLORS OR REALLY ANY LOOK OF THE BUILDING ITSELF. THE MAJOR PART THAT'S GOING TO BE UPDATED IS, AS YOU KNOW, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, IS THIS BALLER, UM, AREA IN THE ROOF. WE CANNOT REMOVE IT BECAUSE IT'S INTEGRAL TO THE ROOF ITSELF AND WE'RE NOT INTENDING TO ACTUALLY REMOVE THE ROOF. UM, AND IT WILL ALSO ALLOW TO ADD OUR SIGNAGE FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF. UM, THE MINOR UPDATES ALONG THE WINDOW HEADERS IS JUST TO REMOVE THE, UM, ANY DECORATIVE ACCENTS AND JUST SQUARE THEM OFF, AS WELL AS CHANGING OUT THE COLUMNS [01:30:01] FROM ROUND TO SQUARE TO KIND OF MIMIC THAT, UM, LANGUAGE THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING ITSELF. UM, THE WINDOWS AS AN ALTERNATE, WE WANT TO POSSIBLY REPLACE AND REMOVE JUST FOR ENERGY PURPOSES. UM, BUT THIS IS ONLY IF THE BUDGET ALLOWS, AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S ONLY AN INTERIOR MODIFICATION, UM, THE WINDOWS MAY REMAIN AS IS, BUT WE DID WANNA PRESENT THE OPTION IN CASE THEY WERE REPLACED. YEP. WHAT IS YOUR PREFERENCE? OUR PREFERENCE IS TO REMOVE 'EM BECAUSE IT WILL, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN UPDATE TO THE BUILDING ITSELF AND TO THE TENANT. UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S A COST ISSUE THAT WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED WITH OUR CLIENT. OKAY. DURING CONSTRUCTION? YES. AGAIN, MOVING AROUND THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, MINOR UPDATES, REPLACING AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, CORRECTING SOME DAMAGES THAT THE BUILDING HAS ON THIS FACADE. AS MENTIONED TOO, BEFORE, WE ARE TRYING, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF FINDING THE BRICK THAT MATCHES. UM, WE ARE AWARE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE CANNOT FIND A POSSIBLE MATCH, THEN THAT DOOR MAY NEED TO BE RE UH, REMAIN OR THAT FENESTRATION, UM, AND EITHER BE REPLACED WITH, YOU KNOW, A STOREFRONT EVEN THOUGH IT'S HIDDEN FROM THE INSIDE. THE FLOOR PLAN DOESN'T REALLY TAKE THAT DOOR, UH, PEOPLE ANYWHERE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, NOR DOES IT TAKE PEOPLE FROM THE OUTSIDE INTO THE BUILDING. SO WE WANNA AVOID ANY CONFUSION FOR ANY CLIENTS GOING INTO THE BUILDING. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING CURRENTLY TO FIND A MATCH TO THE EXISTING BRICK. THIS FACADE, AGAIN, JUST UPDATING THE HEADERS FOR THE WINDOWS. UM, NOT MUCH, NOT MANY CHANGES HERE BESIDES JUST SQUARING OFF THE HEADERS AND THE, THIS IS JUST THE DRAFTED ELEVATIONS OF THAT. UM, AND HERE, I BELIEVE WHAT WAS IN FILE WAS, YOU KNOW, OUTDATED. UM, THERE WAS SOME REVISIONS TO CORRECT THAT, THAT, UM, THAT DOOR THAT'S BEING REPLACED. SO HERE WE DO SHOW IT IN THIS ELEVATION, THE DRAFTED ELEVATIONS AS WELL. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IT, IT MAY BE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO FIND A CLOSE MATCH, WE MAY HAVE TO INFILL THE WHOLE BRICK TO JUST MAKE IT MORE, YOU KNOW, SEAMLESS. UM, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT OF THE BRICK AND FINDING THE RIGHT SAMPLE FOR IT. HOW CLOSE ARE YOU TO FINDING EACH? WE'RE CLOSE. WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT IS, IT CAN BE DELIVERED TO THE SITE. UM, AND WE ALSO WANNA SEE IT ON SITE ITSELF, LIKE A, MAYBE A MOCKUP, A PANEL. YEAH. I THINK IT'S GONNA BE REALLY DIFFICULT EVEN IF YOU FIND THE SAME MM-HMM . MODEL OF BRICK TO MATCH IT JUST BASED ON HOW MANY YEARS IT'S BEEN OUT THERE AND GETTING THE RIGHT GROUT TO MATCH. YES. THE RIGHT MORTAR, MORTAR AND AGING. THE MORTAR 20 YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. RIGHT. AND THAT'S THE CHALLENGE IS THAT WE'RE FINDING, AND I THINK THAT GETTING OURSELVES INTO, IF YOU DID FIND A MATCH, I THINK ALSO THAT YOU, LIKE, I THINK YOU WERE ALLUDING TO THAT THE PY LASTERS, YOU HAVE HIGH LASTED APY LASTER. I DON'T THINK YOU COULD JUST INFILL IT MM-HMM . RIGHT. GO. CORRECT. UM, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE OTHER DRAFTED ELEVATIONS. UM, THERE WAS A COMMENT REGARDING THE MONUMENT SIGN. UM, WE WILL BE HAVING A MONUMENT SIGN ON AN EXISTING PAD. UM, THERE WAS ON THE SITE A, A MONUMENT SIGN THAT'S TALLER THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. UM, AND IT WAS REMOVED SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 2022 AND 2023. SO OUR INTENT IS TO JUST REUSE THAT EXISTING PAD AND ADD THE BUILDING'S MONUMENT SIGN TO IT. SO IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR MONUMENT SIGN THAN THIS. THERE MAY, WE MAY NEED TO UPDATE THAT, BUT WE'RE GONNA USE PART OF THAT, UM, PAD AT LEAST USE, YOU KNOW, REPLACE IT IN THE SAME LOCATION. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, UM, INSTALL IT IN A NEW LOCATION. WE'RE TRYING TO INSTALL IT IN THE SAME LOCATION SINCE IT'S VISIBLE TO THE STREETS ON. DO YOU THINK YOU GET GOOD VISIBILITY? I, I BELIEVE SO. UM, WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE LANDSCAPE AT ALL. UM, AND THE, THE VISIBILITY, THERE'S NO TREES ON THE OTHER SIDE. WE DID GO TO THE SITE OVER MAYBE LATE SUMMER. UM, AND THE TREES ITSELF DOESN'T REALLY COVER THAT AREA AS MUCH. UM, IF YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A TREE HERE AND THEN THERE'S ONE TREE HERE, BUT THE LEAVES DON'T REALLY OUTGROW IT TO THE POINT THAT IT COVERS THE SIGN. [01:35:03] OKAY. HERE YOU KIND OF SEE IT'S A LITTLE BIT ON UPHILL, BUT COMPARED TO THE STREET AND YOUR SIGN'S GONNA BE LOWER, IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT LOWER. YES. YEAH. BUT AS MENTIONED, LIKE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BUSHES AROUND HERE, BUT THERE'S NOT A DIRECT TREE KIND OF COVERING AT THAT LEVEL. THE SIGN, IF YOU CAN SEE HERE YEAH. TOO, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE MONUMENTS ON HAS EVERGREEN LANDSCAPING AT THE BAKER SLOPE. OKAY. OKAY. MAY NEED TO BE LIT. OKAY. IS THAT SIGN LIT? DO YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANY, ANY GROUND LIGHTING ON IT? LET ME CHECK REAL QUICK. I DON'T RECALL. UM, IT'S JUST A VERY DARK SIGN. IT IS ILLUMINATED FROM THE, IS IT GROUND LIGHTS? DO YOU KNOW? OR IS IT THAT? I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH OUR, UM, WITH, WITH THE SIGNAGE VENDOR. I DO REMEMBER THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION REGARDING ALPHARETTA CODE THAT SOME, IT'S NOT ALLOWED TO BE ILLUMINATED FROM THE INSIDE VERSUS, UM, UPLI UP LIT FROM THE OUTSIDE. SO I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK, BUT I'M, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I BELIEVE IT'S ELIMINATED WITHIN. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . WE JUST MAKE SURE THEY WORK WITH STAFF. YEAH. BECAUSE THERE'LL BE A SETBACK ISSUE TOO, ON WHERE I BELIEVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN HAPPENING WITH THE VENDOR ITSELF. YEAH. I'M LOOKING AT BRETT, HAVE YOU HAD CONVERSATION? OKAY, GOOD. ALRIGHT, I'LL LET YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND THAT'S REALLY MUCH ALL. WE HAVE THE MAJOR ITEMS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED FOR THE PRESENTATION, FOR THE BUILDING, THE BALUSTRADE REPLACEMENT. UM, I'M SEEING THE, THE ROOF WILL REMAIN IN PLACE. THERE'S NO NEW ROOF GOING ON, NO NEW SHINGLING, NOTHING LIKE THAT. CORRECT. UM, IS IT HIGH? IS THAT BALUSTRADE AND THE NEW, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S TIED INTO THAT ROOF, IS IT? YES. SO WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS REALLY TO SQUARE OFF THE BALUSTRADES. SO JUST REMOVING AND THEN INFILLING AND JUST REPLACING A REFINISH WITH A DUS. UM, SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO REMOVE LIKE, THE BASE OF IT AT ALL. JUST INFILLING AND S SPRAYING AT ALL. TRYING TO BE VERY MINIMAL TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO, UM, NOT TRYING TO BE INVASIVE TO THE EXISTING FLASHING OF THE BALLAST STREET AND ALL OF THAT. SO WE DON'T WANNA GET INTO THAT. SO IT'LL STILL HAVE A GAP AT THE BOTTOM FOR WHAT? YES. OKAY. MM-HMM . YEAH. WE'RE TRYING TO DEFINITELY RESPECT THAT FOR THE WATER. AND ON THE DOOR REPLACEMENT. HAS THERE BEEN ANY THOUGHT IF IT, IF YOU CANNOT MATCH THE BRICK OR IF THE CONCERN IS BROUGHT UP BY THIS BOARD MM-HMM. UM, WHAT IF IT JUST BECOMES A, A WINDOW OR SOMETHING YES. TO THAT EFFECT. HAS THAT THAT BEEN BROUGHT UP? YES, THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP WITH THE CLIENT. UM, 'CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S GONNA BE DETERMINED BY WHAT THE BRICK, UM, WHETHER IT MATCHES OR NOT, AND THE LOOK OF IT. UM, SO IF WE CAN'T ACHIEVE THAT, THEN THE BEST SOLUTION IS TO PROVIDE A STOREFRONT THAT MIMICS THAT, THAT IS THE SIZE OF THAT FENESTRATION. YES. THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE, PROVE THE THING IS A PRE INSPECTION ACTUAL BRICK. NOT NECESSARILY THE BEST THING TO HAPPEN. WE TRIED THAT ON THE BANK. UM, WE'VE TRIED TO DO A SEVERAL BANK BUILDINGS. YEAH. UM, AND, AND IT LOOKED REALLY GOOD THERE. I THOUGHT IT LOOKED GOOD. AND WHEN I THINK IF YOU DO A MOCKUP PANEL THAT'S MM-HMM . STAFF INSPECTS, LIKE RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT. AND IF IT GOES FROM PILASTER TO PY LASTER, I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD GET IT. YES. DONE. IT WOULD ALMOST FROM THAT BACKSIDE, IT WOULD ALMOST HAVE TO BE THAT WHOLE MM-HMM . THE WHOLE SECTION BETWEEN THE PILE. MM-HMM . YES. YEAH. WE DON'T WANNA GET INTO ANY DEMOLITION BEFORE EVEN TRYING TO REMOVE THAT BRICK. SO THE MOCK-UP PANEL IS WHAT WE HAVE, UM, PLANNED TO DO. IF YOU, UH, INFILL WITH STOREFRONT, I THINK YOU JUST MATCH THE CHARACTER THAT YOU'RE CREATING AROUND. YES. YEAH. WE'LL DO WITH THAT. YEAH. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, A POSSIBLE OPTION IS IF YOU SEE [01:40:01] THE BRICK AND THE BRICK LOOKS LIKE IT'S RIGHT. IT, IT STILL MIGHT BE SAFER TO DO IT AS LIKE WE WOULD DO WITH A FAUX WINDOW SOMETIMES. YOU KNOW, SO YOU, YOU LIKE AN INSET, ALMOST LIKE AN IN RESET. EXACTLY. THAT WAY IF IT'S NOT A 100% PERFECT MATCH, I THINK THAT'S GONNA PLAY BETTER THAN IF YOU TRY TO WEAVE IT IN, RIGHT? YEAH. AND THE BEST PART ABOUT IT IS THIS PARKING LOT DRIVE ENTRANCE SIDE, THE BUILDING. ANYWAY. IT'S NOT THE, SO THAT'S NOT THAT IT DOESN'T NEED DELIVER BACK THERE, BUT AT AT LEAST IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA SAY THIS MY RECOMMENDATION AND IT LIGHTS THE BRICK FROM PYLE. YEAH. THAT'S THE CLEANEST WAY TO DO IT. AND THERE'S ENOUGH SEPARATION. YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO, YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP KIDS IN THERE BECAUSE WEAVING IT IN IT, IT HAS TO MATCH. ABSOLUTELY. PERFECT. UM, YEAH. YEAH. AND OUR PREFERENCE IS IF WE CAN'T GET THAT RIGHT MATCH, WE'RE NOT EVEN GONNA TOUCH THE BRICK AND WE'RE GONNA REPLACE IT WITH STOREFRONT. WITH A STOREFRONT. 'CAUSE THERE'S NO POINT OF EV EVEN IF WE KIND OF DO A BOW BORDER WITH A NEW BRICK WITHIN THAT SPACE, IT'S NOT GONNA MATCH, IT'S NOT GONNA LOOK RIGHT. SO THE WINDOW OR STOREFRONT STOREFRONT WINDOW, THE DOOR IS NOT REALLY, SO YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE A POTENTIAL BOTTOM WHERE YOU'RE GONNA YES. UM, WELL WE WOULD BRING IT DOWN TO THE SILT TO THE EXISTING OPENING. I THINK SHE, IT'LL BE A STOREFRONT TO STRAIGHT TO THE GROUND. STRAIGHT TO THE GROUND. IT JUST WON'T BE A DOOR ITSELF. YEAH. HAVE YOU GUYS CONSIDERED, UM, UH, MR. SCHROEDER BROUGHT IT UP DURING THE WORKSHOP ABOUT ADDITIONAL ARTICULATION TO THE, THE WINDOW REPLACEMENT. THE STOREFRONT WINDOW REPLACEMENT, SOME STYLES IN THE WINDOW. YES. SO THERE, THERE IS THAT OPTION. UM, IT'S, WE CAN DO MIMIC THE, WHAT HE SAID AT THE FRONT OF IT. UM, BUT THE PREFERENCE IS TO HAVE IT WITHOUT THE MULIAN. UM, IT DOES GIVE IT A MORE CLEANER, MODERN LOOK TO WHAT WE COULD SAVE YOU SOME MONEY AND NOT HAVE YOU. RIGHT. ? YEAH, I THINK THE, YEAH, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT IT, IT IS CLEANER, MORE MODERN NOT TO HAVE MULIAN IN IT, BUT IT DOESN'T FIT THE CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING. MM-HMM . IT FEELS A LITTLE OUT OF PLACE, RIGHT? MM-HMM . IF IT WAS, I, I THINK AS MR. SCHROEDER SAID IT, YOU KNOW, TWO OVER ONE IT'D BE LESS MULANS, RIGHT? MM-HMM . MM-HMM . IT WOULD MAYBE LOOK A LITTLE MORE MODERN, BUT SOME OF THOSE, THE, THE WINDOWS WITHOUT MULIAN JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO FIT THE RED BRICK. MM-HMM . RIGHT. TRADITIONAL LOOKING BUILDING. EVEN WITH THE CHANGES THAT YOU'VE MADE. MM-HMM . I WOULD JUST LEAVE IT, IT WAS ME OR, OR, OR LEAVE IT THE WAY IT'S RIGHT. YEAH. WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT. OBVIOUSLY WE WANNA GET THIS PROJECT DONE. UM, AND HAVING MULIAN IN THE NEW STOREFRONT, IF IT IS WITHIN THE BUDGET, WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE FOR MY CLIENT. WELL, I'LL SAY THIS, IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE A VACANT BUILDING BEAM. MM-HMM . I KNOW IT'S BEEN EMPTY AND TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THAT. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT THIS MORNING? BEFORE THERE'S ANY MOTIONS I WILL ASK, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THIS APPLICANT? PUBLIC COMMENT, PUBLIC COMMENT. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, REGARDING DRB 2 500 0 4 1 PNC BANK, UM, MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THE EXTERIOR ELEVATION OF MATERIALS AS PRESENTED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. IF THE WINDOWS ARE REPLACED, THE NEW WINDOWS WILL EITHER HAVE MULLINS THE SAME AS THE CURRENT WINDOWS OR TWO OVER ONE MUL. IF THE BRICK CANNOT BE MATCHED TO INFILL THE DOOR ON THE WEST FACADE, THE DOOR WILL BE REPLACED WITH A STOREFRONT WINDOW AND STAFF WILL HAVE PRIOR APPROVAL OF THE BRICK SELECTION, UH, FOR ANY INFILL OCCURS. AND THE MOTION. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. SWING, A SECOND BY MR. OWENS. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE MOTION? YEAH. UM, DON'T WE WANT THE BRICK INFILL TO GO MUL UH, STER TO STER IF IT'S REPLACED? WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE INFILL. I THINK, I THINK THAT WAS IT FOR OKAY. YEAH, I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO ADD IT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, THAT'D BE FINE. I'D LIKE TO ADD IT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT OFFER. I DON'T YOU MAKE IT OFFICIAL. ALRIGHT. OKAY. UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE BRICK INFILL. IF THE BRICK IS REPLACED, IT WILL BE REPLACED FROM PY LASTER TO PY LASTER IN THE CENTRAL BAY OF THE, [01:45:01] UH, FACADE. OKAY. WE HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT ON THE TABLE FOR MR. ROWAN, BOTH THROUGH, UH, MR. SWING. DO YOU ACCEPT? I DO. OKAY. OWENS, BUT YES I DO. ALRIGHT. BOTH PARTIES ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. ALRIGHT. FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MOTION WITH THE BEING DONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION WITH THE FRIENDLY 2, 3, 7, ALL WILL PASSES. SEVEN ZERO. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT, GOOD, GOOD. NEXT, NEXT UP THIS MORNING IS, UH, OUR NEXT APPLICANT IS, UH, PORTMAN BROOKSIDE. IT'S LIKE YOU'RE HERE IN FORCE, SO COME ON DOWN PLEASE. SO COME ON UP. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. LOOKS LIKE WE'RE TO GO. GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. IF YOU'LL, UH, YOU UP NOW. IT'S GOOD. OKAY. I GOT IT. SORRY. IT'S MY FIRST TIME IN FRONT OF Y'ALL, SO, UH, WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE. THANKS FOR [01:50:01] HAVING US CONSIDER IN THIS PROJECT. UM, LIKE I SAID, GLAD YOU'RE HERE. IT'S, IT'S OUR FIRST TIME IN ALPHARETTA. IT'S OUR FIRST TIME REALLY KIND OF AWAY FROM OUR CENTRAL CITY FOR A WHILE. SO, UH, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS. UM, WE ARE PUTTING A LOT INTO IT. IT'S, UM, COMPLIMENTARY OF THE GREAT COMMUNITY. IT'S UP HERE, SO I HOPE YOU LIKE IT. UM, THANK YOU. YOU'RE OTP NOW OTP. THAT'S RIGHT. ALRIGHT. I, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T CATCH YOUR NAME. UH, IT'S MIKE GREEN. I'M SORRY. OKAY. UH, I GREW UP OTP, SO PERFECTLY COMFORTABLE BEING A . UM, SO I AM, UH, LIKE I SAID, I'M MIKE GREEN, SO I'M THE LEAD DEVELOPER. UM, I AM SUPPORTED BY CLAYTON, WHO'S IN THE BACK, WHO'S HELPING ME OUT HERE. AND THEN THE TEAM, UH, PRESENTING TO YOU, LIKE, I THINK MOST OF THEM YOU GUYS KNOW PRETTY WELL. KIMLEY HORN, UM, JIM HAMILTON, MARK PUTNAM ARE HERE. UH, CORE LANDSCAPING, UH, WHICH IS A PARTNERSHIP CORE A SD, UM, THAT'S LAUREN AND MARK. THEY'RE ALSO HERE. THE ARCHITECTURE FIRM IS NEW, UH, TO Y'ALL. IT'S, UH, SK AND I OUTTA DC. UM, SK AND I IS A FIRM THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH ON A COUPLE OTHER PROJECTS. UM, WE LIKED, UH, WE LIKED THE FACT THAT THEY GOT A LOT OF REPS IN DC ON A PARTICULAR KIND OF HEIGHT AND BUILD STYLE, AND SO WE FELT LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, DECADES OF THEM WORKED IN THAT LANE, LIKE LED REALLY WELL TO, UH, THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING TYPES HEIGHT AND APOLOGY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE HERE. SO, UH, THEY'RE A NEW NEW PARTY HERE, SO. GOOD. LET'S, LET'S DIVE IN. ALRIGHT MAN. SO I'M GONNA, UM, HAND IT OVER TO MARK FIRST, RIGHT? YEP. HI, I'M MARK PUTNAM WITH KIMLEY HORN. I'M THE, UH, HEAD CIVIL ENGINEER ON THIS ONE. UH, LOCATED HERE AT 11 7 20 AMBER PARK IN ALPHARETTA. GOOD. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT WAS THE INTRODUCTION. LET'S FLIP HERE TO CIVIL REALLY QUICKLY BEFORE WE HAND IT OVER TO, UH, LAUREN AND, AND BRANDON OUT. YOU GOT A MOUSE. WHILE THEY'RE DOING THAT, Y'ALL, UM, THIS PROJECT HAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT ASKS TO, TO IT. SO WE ANTICIPATED WE WOULD BE HERE IN FRONT OF, UM, THIS, UH, THIS PIECE OF IT PARTIC OUT, BUT THERE WERE ELEMENTS OF THIS PROJECT, LIKE SIGNAGE AND RETAIL DETAILS, NOT IN THIS PRESENT, WE FULLY ANTICIPATE FOR EACH PACK IN FRONT OF YOU. SO THIS PLAN RIGHT HERE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING CURRENTLY TODAY, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WHAT KIND OF BRETT HAD MENTIONED EARLIER ON WITH THE C FOUR, C FIVE, C SIX AND C SEVEN BUILDING, AS WELL AS REALLY THE, THE C3, THERE'S SOME ALTERNATIVES THAT ARE BEING, UH, DISCUSSED THERE WITH STAFF CURRENTLY. UM, SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON MOSTLY TODAY IS GOING TO BE THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, UM, AND THEN THE LANDSCAPE COMPONENT. ALL RIGHT, SO ORIENT YOUR YOURSELVES HERE. THIS IS OLD MILTON. UH, THIS IS, UH, PLAN NORTH. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN. OLD MILTON IS, UH, UP HERE. THAT'S A GDO ROADWAY. THERE'S THE EXISTING STREET TREES THAT, UM, WERE, WERE MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE WORK SESSION. THE, THE CURRENT RIDE IN RIDE OUT AND DESAL RIGHT TURN LANE INTO THE SITE IS, IS APPROXIMATELY ABOUT RIGHT HERE ON THE SITE PLAN. WE ARE GONNA BE RELOCATING THAT 200 FEET UPHILL, UM, TO ALIGN WITH, WITH, WITH THE NEW STREET THAT'S RUNNING DOWN THAT KIND OF LINES WITH THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING. UM, WITH, WITH RELOCATING THAT, THAT DESAL LANE. WE'VE, WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT WITH G DDOT. THERE WILL BE A FEW TREES THAT HAVE TO GET REMOVED AS A PORTION OF THAT DESAL LANE, BUT THE REST OF THE STREET TREES ALONG OLD MILTON WILL BE REMAINING. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THE INTERSECTION AT, UH, BROOKSIDE PARKWAY IN OLD MILTON. WHEN YOU TURN DOWN BROOKSIDE PARKWAY, THE FIRST ENTRANCE THAT YOU GET TO IS A RIDE IN RIDE OUT THAT IS CURRENTLY, UH, ON THE BANK'S PROPERTY ON THE CORNER THAT WE HAVE A SHARED ACCESS AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS US TO GO INTO THERE, BUT WE HAVE NO, UH, PLANS OR CAPABILITY [01:55:01] TO MODIFY THAT INTERSECTION. THE NEXT IN ENTRANCE INTO THE SITE IS THE EXISTING, UH, ENTRANCE INTO THE OFFICE PARK OFF BROOKSIDE PARKWAY. WE'RE KEEPING THE LOCATION OF IT, BUT WE ARE MODIFYING THE CURB CUT ACCESS INTO THE SITE. THERE'S CURRENTLY A MEDIAN THAT'S GOING INTO THERE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO BE REMOVING, UM, TO THE WEST OF THE SITE IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT GRAY CHANGE THAT DROPS DOWN. THAT GOES DOWN TO BROOKSIDE PARK, WHICH IS A CITY OF ALPHARETTA, UM, UH, AMENITY. AND THEN ONCE YOU GO THROUGH BROOKSIDE PARK, YOU HAVE BIG CREEK GREENWAY, UH, THAT'S ON ACTUALLY THE WEST SIDE OF BIG CREEK. UH, NOT, IT'S NOT SHOWN IN THIS APPLICATION, BUT IN LATER APPLICATIONS. AND WE ARE IN STAFF, WE ARE WITH STAFF CURRENTLY WORKING ON HOW WE ARE GOING TO PROPOSE AN ALIGNMENT THROUGH BROOKSIDE PARK CROSSING OVER THE BIG CREEK AND THEN CONNECTING TO THE GREENWAY. BUT THAT CONNECTION, UH, WILL, WILL HAPPEN UP HERE CLOSE TO OLD OLD MILTON, WHICH IS WHERE THERE'S, THERE'S AN EXISTING SIDEWALK THAT GETS DOWN FROM OLD MILTON TO, TO BROOKSIDE PARK. UM, THAT, THAT CONNECTION IS IMPORTANT TO US. UH, WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. BUT YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A, A LARGE MIXED USE TRAIL THAT COMES FROM BROOKSIDE PARK THAT GOES OFF OF BROOK, OFF OF OLD MILTON AND BEHIND THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE, THE, THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE THAT'S GOING THROUGH THE SITE. THIS IS ALSO DOUBLING AS A FIRE ACCESS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL IN ALPHARETTA. UM, SO IT'S, UH, 12 FOOT WIDE, AND THEN WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL, UM, GRASS PAVE SYSTEM THAT'S NEXT TO IT THAT'S GONNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE FIRETRUCK THAT GOES THROUGH. BUT THE, THE REAL, THE, THE KEY COMPONENT TO THAT IS THE PEDESTRIAN MIXED USE EXPERIENCE. UM, THE, THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING IS CURRENTLY PARKED WITH A PARKING DECK THAT'S SURROUNDED BY, BY THE BUILDING ALL THE WAY AROUND. THERE'S COMMERCIAL RETAIL SPACE UNDERNEATH THE PODIUM, UH, THAT'S ON THIS STREET A THAT COMES IN OFF OLD MILTON. THERE IS ALSO THE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 STANDALONE BUILDINGS. AND THEN THERE'S A COFFEE SHOP STANDALONE BUILDING THAT'S CLOSE TO THE AMPHITHEATER. THE AMPHITHEATER, AGAIN, IS, IS NOT INCLUDED IN IN THIS APPLICATION, BUT THAT JUST GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A, A LAYOUT OF, OF THE SITE STORM WATER WISE. THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WAS BUILT IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, HAS TWO CURRENT PONDS. THERE'S, THERE'S ONE POND THAT'S ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER THAT WE ARE GOING TO, UH, RETROFIT TO MEET CURRENT STANDARDS. IT'S GONNA INCLUDE TWO-SIDED WALL, AND THEN THE BERM, THAT'S A BUDDING BROOKSIDE PARK WILL BE JUST MODIFYING THE BERM TO BRING IT TO CURRENT STANDARDS. AND THEN THE OTHER STORMWATER CONTROLS ON THE SITE. SO THAT WILL BE OUR, OUR MAIN, UH, RUNOFF REDUCTION. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE PERIAL PAVERS THAT'S ON THE, UH, FIRE LANE THAT'S BETWEEN THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING AND THE MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING. AND THEN WE'LL ALSO BE INCORPORATING WITH, WITH THE RETAIL DIFFERENT BIOSWELLS, UH, TREE, TREE, UM, STORMWATER PLANTERS AND UM, AND BIO RETENTION AREAS. AND THEN FOR PARKING, THE MAJORITY OF THE PARKING IS ALL WITHIN THE PARKING, PARKING DECK ITSELF. THERE IS SURFACE PARK AND PARALLEL PARKING WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH REZONING WITH CITY COUNCIL, WE PREPARED A SHARED, UM, PARKING STUDY THAT SHOWED AMPLE PARKING FOR THE SITE AND SPEC SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PARCEL. UM, THIS PHASE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT MIGHT BE A LITTLE, UM, CONFUSING IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PARKING COUNT, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL COUNTING ALL THE SURFACE PARK THAT'S DOWN HERE ON THE SOUTH. THIS IS GONNA BE PRESENTED IN A LATER DRB, UM, AND ALSO LATER TO CITY COUNCIL. UM, THIS SURFACE PARKING WILL, WILL GO AWAY AND IT WILL BE DE DEVELOPED. UM, AND YEP, GO RIGHT AHEAD. WHILE YOU'RE ON PARKING, JUST CAN JUST OUTLINE WHERE THE PARKING DECK IS YES. FOR CLARITY. AND THEN, UH, SHOW US WHERE ANY SURFACE PARKING ORIENTATIONS. PERFECT. SO SURFACE PARKING, UM, SORRY, THE PARKING DECK IS, IS RIGHT HERE. IT'S A, IT'S SIX STORY PARKING DECK. IT'S GOT THREE BAYS IN IT, FAIRLY LARGE, 800 PLUS SPACES. AND, AND AGAIN, THAT'S COMPLETELY WITHIN THE ENVELOPE OF THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PARKING DECKS? THERE ARE NO OTHER PARKING DECKS PROPOSED IN THIS CASE. SO EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE SURFACE, EVERYTHING ELSE IS SURFACE PARKING. AS YOU COME IN STREET A, WE'VE GOT PARALLEL PARKING ALONG BOTH SIDES OF STREET A. STREET B HAS CURRENTLY AS SHOWN, UH, HEAD END PARKING 90 DEGREES ALONG STREET B. AND LIKEWISE, [02:00:01] STREET C HAS, UH, SURFACE PARKING AS CURRENTLY SHOWN. AND THEN SO THE ENTRANCE, ENTRANCE AND OR EXIT TO THE PARKING DECK IS, YEP. SO THE, THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO THE PARKING DECK IS GONNA BE OFF OF STREET A THAT'S RIGHT HERE. IT GOES UNDERNEATH THE CONCRETE PODIUM BETWEEN THE RETAIL UNITS AND INTO THE PARKING DECK. THERE IS A AUXILIARY, UM, ENTRANCE EXIT THAT'S GONNA MOSTLY BE USED FOR VALET ONLY. THAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE HERE. UM, BUT THEN AS, AS THE, THE, THE PLAN DEVELOPS, AS THE DEVELOPMENT MOVES FORWARD, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OPTIONS FOR HAVING MUSIC VENUES INSIDE THIS AMPHITHEATER THAT THAT SECONDARY ENTRANCE COULD BE OPENED UP, UM, DURING LARGE EVENTS SO THAT THERE'S, THERE'S MORE FLOW COMING OUT OF THE PARKING DECK. THESE ARE ALL PRIVATE STREETS. CAN YOU TALK? PUBLIC WILL BE, YEP. OKAY. YES, SIR. CAN YOU TALK FOR A SECOND ABOUT, UM, UH, HOW THE DEVELOPMENT WILL DEAL WITH DELIVERIES, TRASH AND MOVE IN, MOVE OUT FOR THE MULTIFAMILY? YES. SO THE KIND OF LOOKING AGAIN, AT THIS BUILDING ALL REALLY ALL THE BUILDINGS THAT THERE'S NOT REALLY A, A BACK OF HOUSE TO, TO ANY OF THESE. UM, SO ALL THE, UH, TRASH FOR THE RETAIL WITHIN THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, THE TRASH FOR THE RESIDENCE, AND THEN ALSO THE LOADING IS GONNA BE INTERIOR TO THE BUILDING, BUT BEHIND THE FACADE, UM, THAT'S HERE OFF OF THIS, THE, THE FIRE LANE A AGAIN, THIS, THIS STREET, THIS FIRE LANE IS NOT OPEN 24 7 FOR VEHICLES GOING THROUGH. IT'S, IT'S AGAIN, JUST FOR, UH, CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY WHEN TRASH WILL BE PICKED UP AND THEN ALSO OPEN FOR LOADING AND THEN VALET ONLY. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AS, AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PLAN HERE, THIS IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, FURTHEST AWAY FROM OLD MILTON. HAVE, UH, RESIDENTIAL LOADING AND RETAIL LOADING, MOVING IN RIGHT HERE ON THE, THE LEFT, YOU'VE GOT RESIDENTIAL TRASH, AGAIN, INTERIOR TO THE BUILDING, UH, BEHIND CLOSED GATES, CLOSED DOORS. AND THEN THE RETAIL TRASH ROOM IS, IS RIGHT HERE. SO THAT'S FOR THE MULTIFAMILY, THE, THE STANDALONE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. AND AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT'S SHOWN CURRENTLY, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH STAFF TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS HERE, BUT THERE IS CURRENTLY A EXTERIOR TRASH ENCLOSURE THAT IS IN, IN THIS CORNER HERE. UM, I THINK BRETT HAD MENTIONED IT SLIGHTLY, BUT THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD GRADE CHANGE BETWEEN THE, THE BANK PARCEL AND, AND THESE RETAIL BUILDINGS. THIS KIND OF DASHED BLACK AND WHITE LINE HERE IS A RETAINING WALL. THAT WALL IS GONNA BE EXTENDED UP ON, ON THIS, ON THIS, UH, SIDE HERE, SO THAT IT ACTUALLY COMPLETELY COVERS ANY TRASH ENCLOSURE. YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT AS YOU'RE COMING IN OFF OF BROOKSIDE PARKWAY. SO WITH THE, THE TRASH ROOMS THAT YOU HAVE AT THE, THE PARKING DECK, UM, HOW DO TRUCKS ACCESS THE TRASH? ARE THEY ROLLOUTS OR, UH, IS THERE A COMPACTOR THERE? SO THE, WHAT'S THE ACCESS? CURRENTLY WHAT WE HAVE PLAIN SHOWN IS COMPACTOR WITHIN, WITH ROLLOUTS TWO CUBIC YARD ROLLOUTS. BUT WE'RE, WE'RE EXPLORING OPTIONS THERE OF POSSIBLY DOING A, A LARGER COMPACTOR WITH A, SO THE TRUCK CAN ACTUALLY DRIVE IN AND ROLL IT OFF. YEAH, I I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THERE'D BE A LOT OF PICKUPS AND, AND ROLLOUTS. UH, I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF A BACK OF HOUSE AREA. AND, AND FOR THE RESIDENTIAL, UM, MOVE-IN, THAT'S THE LOADING SPACE EVEN FOR THE UNITS THAT ARE IN THE, UH, THE U-SHAPED BUILDING ADJACENT IS, IS THAT THE ONLY ACCESS FOR MOVE-INS? TH THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL MOVE-IN YES. FOR THE ENTIRE BUILDING. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CIVIL BEFORE I HAND IT OVER TO, UM, YEAH, SO WALK US THROUGH OR SHOW US WHERE ALL THE WALLS ARE. PERFECT. SOME YOU'RE CALLING SOME RETAINING WALLS OR SOME OTHER YEP. SO IF WE START IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER, WE HAVE THE L-SHAPED RETAINING WALL HERE THAT IS, UH, AGAIN, AROUND THE EXISTING POND, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT OF THE POND. SO WE'RE EXPANDING, UH, THE, THE POND SIZE FOR THE VOLUMES THAT ARE REQUIRED. SO THERE'LL BE A, A WALL HERE WITHIN THE POND. AND THERE IS NO WALL THERE NOW, CORRECT? THERE IS NO WALL THERE TODAY. OKAY. IT'S JUST A, JUST A DEPRESSION. YEAH. AND THEN, SO IF I'M STANDING OR, UH, WHICH SIDE DO I SEE THE WALL FROM? I GUESS I'M STANDING INSIDE THE, THE TENSION. SO IF YOU'RE STANDING IN INSIDE THE POND, THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING IS GONNA BE ON THE HIGH SIDE. RIGHT? SO THE FIRE LANE AND THIS, UH, SIDEWALK MIXED USE TRAIL THAT GOES DOWN TO BROOKSIDE PARK IS ALL ON THE HIGH SIDE OF THE WALL. SO I ASSUME THEN THERE THERE'LL BE SOME PROTECTION OR PROTECTION ALSO. YEP, ABSOLUTELY. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY PLANNING ON [02:05:02] THE LEG THAT RUNS PARALLEL TO THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING AND PARALLEL TO THE FIRE LANE, WE'LL HAVE, UH, RAILING FALL PROTECTION ALONG THAT SIDE. THE FRONT WALL FACE THAT FACES OLD MELTING, WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA EXTEND THAT WALL UP. SO YOU'LL HAVE A, A BRICK WALL UP AND THEN WE'LL HAVE, UM, A RAILING THAT'S ON TOP OF IT, NOT REALLY NEEDED FOR FALL PROTECTION, BUT TO CONTINUE TO LOOK. UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS OF IT, WHAT'S EXPOSED THERE. SO THAT'S GONNA BE A BRICK, BRICK FACE WITH THE, THE RAILING ABOVE. RIGHT. VERY GOOD. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND THEN MOVING ACROSS THE SITE HERE, WHEN YOU COME IN OFF OLD MILTON, UH, OLD MILTON IS GONNA BE HIGH. WE'RE, WE'RE DROPPING DOWN INTO THE SITE. SO AS YOU DROP INTO THE SITE, TRYING TO MAXIMIZE FLAT FLOOR SPACE FOR MULTIPLE, FOR THE ACCESS FOR, UH, TENANTS SO THAT WE CAN MOVE DEMING WALLS AS NEEDED AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT STEPS IN THE BUILDING. WE'VE INCORPORATED SOME, SOME SMALLER WALLS BETWEEN THE MO THE RETAIL AND, AND THE STREET LEVEL. ALL THESE WALLS WILL BE LESS THAN 30 INCHES, SO NO FALL PROTECTION IS GONNA BE ON, ON ANY OF THESE WALLS. UM, MOST OF 'EM WILL BE HIDDEN WITH LANDSCAPING. UH, THE A AS AS CURRENTLY SHOWN, THE ROAD IS GONNA BE KIND OF ON THE HIGH SIDE. UM, YOU CAN SEE THE POCKETS BETWEEN THE WALLS WHERE PEDESTRIANS WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS INTO THE SITE VIA WHEELCHAIR. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO POCKETS WHERE YOU HAVE STAIRS THAT GO IN INTO THE KIND OF RETAIL. SO WE HAVE THE KIND OF COLLECTOR DISTRIBUTOR SIDEWALK ALONG BOTH SIDES OF STREET A AND THEN YOU HAVE THE RETAIL, UH, PLAZA AREAS THAT ARE BEHIND LANDSCAPING. SO IF I'M IN THE RETAIL PLAZA AREA, BRICK FACED WALL ON, ON, YES. SAFE AS ON THE NORTH SIDES, YES. ON THE BRICK FACE WALL, AS YOU MOVE SOUTH, YOU'LL ACTUALLY BE ABOVE. SO IF YOU'RE STANDING HERE OUT IN FRONT OF C3 C, RIGHT, YOU'LL BE ABOVE THE ROAD AS, AS YOU MOVE UP HERE, YOU'RE LEVEL WITH THE ROAD AND YOU KEEP MOVING UP. NOW YOU'RE GONNA BE APPROXIMATELY 30 INCHES LOWER THAN THE ROAD. SO THAT'S, THAT'S AS YOU AS YOU MOVE DOWN STREET A AND THAT'S ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FRONTAGE. AS YOU KEEP MOVING DOWN AND YOU TURN ONTO STREET B, THERE'S NO RETAINING WALLS AT ALL. UM, KNEW ANY PROPOSED RETAINING WALLS MORE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SIDE, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE, BETWEEN THE BANK AND THESE TWO C FOUR C FIVE RETAIL RESTAURANT BUILDINGS, THERE'S A WALL THAT VARIES IN HEIGHT UP TO EIGHT FEET, UM, OF, OF EARTH RETENTION. NOW, AS YOU MOVE AROUND THE CORNER OVER HERE BY THE DUMPSTERS, WE'RE EXTENDING THAT WALL UP TO COVER THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE. BUT THERE, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE ON THE, THE, THE, THE ROADWAY SIDE LOOKING, YOU'RE ON THE HIGH SIDE. UM, THIS WILL BE DOWN, UM, BELOW, BELOW THE ROAD. SO BOTH OF THESE, THE BANK PARCEL IS HIGHER THAN THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. IS THAT, UH, UH, THE RETAINING WALL THAT'S PROPOSED AROUND, UH, BUILDING C FOUR AND C FIVE? IS THAT LIKE A, A GEO WALL OR, UH, SO, SO THE, THE BACKSIDE OF IT, YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT MSE BLOCK WITH, UM, WITH GEOGRID ON IT JUST BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY VISIBLE AT ALL. UM, AS YOU MOVE AROUND TO THE EAST, BECAUSE THIS ONE IS VISIBLE AS YOU'RE COMING IN, IT WOULD BE MATCHING THE SAME, UH, ARCHITECTURE THAT WE'RE SHOWING ON THE OTHER WALLS WITH THE BRICK, UH, MARK, HELP ME UNDERSTAND, WHAT IS M UH, MECHANICALLY STABILIZED EARTH THOUGH? IT'S, IT'S GRID SPLIT BLOCK WALL WITH GEO GRID RUNNING BACK. OKAY. AND THAT IS ALL THE WALLS. CAN I ASK, OH, SORRY, GO AHEAD. CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THE WHOLE LOADING AREA? YEP. UM, HAVE YOU GUYS DONE, UH, TRUCK RADIUS STUDIES TO MAKE SURE THAT GARBAGE TRUCK TRUCKS AND TRACTOR TRAILERS COULD GET BACK THERE FOR DELIVERIES? ABSOLUTELY. YEP. SO WE WE'RE NOT EXPECTING TRACTOR TRAILERS GOING BACK FOR THIS. SO THIS IS LOOKING AT YOUR 40 FOOT STANDARD TRUCK SIZES FOR, YOU KNOW, ROLL OFFS FOR DUMPSTERS OR YOUR, YOUR LARGEST U-HAUL TRUCK, UM, THAT WOULD GO IN THERE, YOUR 26 FOOT BOX TRUCK. THE FIRE LANE THAT YOU SEE HERE WITH THE PERME PAVERS IS 26 FOOT WIDE. AND THEN WE, WE ARE NOT PUTTING VERTICAL CURB ON IT. SO YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL FIVE FOOT, UH, HEAVY DUTY CONCRETE SIDEWALK ON BOTH SIDES. SO NOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 36 FOOT OF A PAVEMENT. WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, LARGE LIKE CISCO DELIVERIES FOR RESTAURANTS AND THINGS? UM, SOMETIMES YOU SEE SOME PRETTY BIG TRUCKS. MM-HMM . THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE EARLY IN THE MORNING OR, YEAH. AND, AND IN THOSE SITUATIONS IT WOULD BE PULL IN, PULL OUT. IT WOULDN'T BE A TURNAROUND. AND, AND THAT WOULD, THAT, UH, LOADING AREA WOULD SERVICE ALL OF THE [02:10:01] RETAIL BUILDINGS FROM THAT POINT, JUST WITH JUST THE RETAIL THAT'S UNDERNEATH THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING. OKAY. THE, THE OTHER ONES IN FRONT OF THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE, WE HAVE, THAT'S THE LOADING, WE TWO LOADING SPACES HERE. OKAY. UM, YES. BIG PICTURE. YEP. FOR YOUR LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT FOR THIS, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH, I KNOW YOU GAVE US THE OUTLINE OF EVERY, SO MM-HMM . THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO FOR, I CALL IT FOR PHASE ONE, CORRECT? YEP. SO YOU'RE GONNA E ESSENTIALLY IF YOU KIND OF SPLIT THE, IT'S A 20 ACRE SITE, YOU KIND OF SPLIT IT IN HALF, RIGHT, RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE. PHASE ONE IS EVERYTHING NORTH. PHASE TWO WOULD BE EVERYTHING SOUTH. SO PHASE ONE WOULD BE DEMOLISHING THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING. OKAY. UM, MASQUERADING, WE'RE GONNA BE CUTTING, CUTTING PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY, I THINK TOTAL TODAY BETWEEN THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION OF THE BANK AND, UH, OFFICE BUILDING NUMBER TWO IS 13 FEET OF GRADE CHANGE. SO CUTTING THIS, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE WHERE THE FOUR C FOUR C FIVE C SIX SEVEN RETAIL BUILDINGS ARE CUTTING THAT DOWN. INSTALLING THAT WALL, THAT'S THE, THE MAJOR EARTH WORK MOVEMENT. OKAY. UM, AND THEN INSTALLING UTILITIES, UH, FOR, FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE HERE IN, IN PHASE PHASE ONE. OKAY. SO ARE YOU ABLE FOR PHASE ONE TO BALANCE THE SITE? YES. YOU'RE ABLE MM-HMM . MOVE? YEP. ALRIGHT. JUST CURIOUS WITH THE BUILDING, THE EXISTING OFFICE USING ANYTHING? NO. SO AS FAR AS UTILITIES, YOU MEAN? WELL, I WAS JUST THINKING OF MATERIAL OR ANYTHING, GRINDING UP ANY OF THE CONCRETE AND TRYING TO REUSE IT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT I'M AWARE OF. NO, I'M, THERE IS A CONTRACTOR ON BOARD. I'M SURE THEY'VE, THEY'VE LOOKED AT, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY TO, TO USE ANY OF THAT AS BACKFILL? I UNDERSTAND. I'M SURE THEY'LL OKAY. BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE. UM, IT LOOKS LIKE BUILDING THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING RIGHT NOW, THAT'S REMAINED PART OF IT'S SHADED IN A DARK COLOR AND PART OF IT'S NOT. IS THAT? YEP. OKAY. YEP. PERFECT. UM, SO THE, THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING 130,000 SQUARE FOOT, UM, THERE'S A LOBBY THAT RUNS DIRECTLY ACROSS IT IN THE MIDDLE FROM, FROM THAT LOBBY NORTH, THAT SPACE WILL BE OUTFITTED INTO A COMMERCIAL SPACE. I SEE. RETAIL RESTAURANT. UM, SO THERE, THERE WILL BE A NEW, UM, RETAIL EXPERIENCE. THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING A LITTLE BIT OF POSSIBLE OUTDOOR DINING AROUND THE, THE BUILDING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF IT. SO THERE WILL BE EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS THAT HAPPEN JUST TO THE STOREFRONT OF THAT. OKAY. CAN I ADD JUST THAT VERSION WOULD OCCUR. GOOD. ALRIGHT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER KIND OF SITE? UM, I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE BANK. THAT BANK PARKING. YEP. UM, THOSE DIA DIAGON DIAGONAL SPACES ARE FOR THE BANK, CORRECT? LIKE THESE RIGHT HERE? ARE Y'ALL USING ANY OF THESE SPACES OR IS THAT YEAH, SO, SO ALL THE, THE DIAGONAL SPACE THAT YOU SEE THERE ARE ACTUALLY ON THE PARCEL ON OUR PARCEL. OKAY. UM, LIKEWISE, THE, THE HEAD END PARKING THAT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BANK, IT IS ON OUR PARCEL. SO WE WILL BE UTILIZING THOSE PARKING, UM, SPACES. NOW THERE ARE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE ON THE, THE BANK PARCEL THAT WE HAVE AN ACCESS EASEMENT FOR BEING ABLE TO PARK ON THOSE AS WELL. SO ALL, ALL OF ALL OF THE BANK PARKING WAS INCLUDED IN THE SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, I HAD A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, STRAIGHT IN PARKING BEHIND C3 BUILDING C3. YEP. IT LOOKS LIKE THOSE ARE RIGHT UP AGAINST THE, THE BACK OF THE BUILDING. IS THERE ANY, IS THERE ANY REAR ACCESS BUILDING C3? NO. SO, SO IF YOU SEE HERE, WALL NUMBER NINE. SO THE WALL NUMBER NINE ACTUALLY TURNED INTO A BUILDING WALL BUILDING FOUNDATION WALL. RIGHT. SO THERE, THERE'S AGAIN, A FOUR TO FIVE FOOT GRADE CHANGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE PAR, THOSE PARKING SPACES ARE UP HIGHER THAN, THAN THE BUILDING FINISHED FLOOR. SO THERE WON'T BE, I GUESS NO DOOR ACCESS AND THERE WON'T BE ANY KIND OF LANDSCAPE BUFFER BETWEEN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING IN THOSE SPACES. THERE'S LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ONLY LIKE A FOOT OR TWO. YEAH, THERE'S THREE FEET JUST FOR BUILDING OVERHANG, I MEAN, SORRY FOR, UM, FOR VEHICLE OVERHANG SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING THE TRUCK BACK INTO THE WALL WITH THE BUILDING. [02:15:05] OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE FOR ON THE SITE? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR HELPING US OUT. YEP. UH, I'LL HAND IT OVER NOW TO LAUREN FOR LANDSCAPING. BRENT IS ACTUALLY EVERYONE MY NAME IS MORNING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS BRANDON ROBINSON. I'M THE EYE, WE ARE THE ART PROJECT. PUT TOGETHER SOME RENDERINGS FOR YOU, SOME PERSPECTIVE VIEWS. I'M JUST GONNA WALK YOU AROUND THE BUILDING AND EXPLAIN KIND OF A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY WE DID WHAT WE DID AND WHAT WE'RE DOING. UM, THE, THE BIGGEST THING FOR US WAS, YOU KNOW, I SAW ON THE SITE PLAN IT'S A PRETTY BIG FOOTPRINT BUILDING, SO WE MADE A LOT OF STEPS, TOOK A LOT OF, UM, MADE A LOT OF EFFORT TO BREAK IT UP, UH, ARCHITECTURALLY INTO SEVERAL ELEMENTS. UM, THIS VIEW HERE IS LOOKING SPECIFICALLY FROM OLD MILTON DOWN THE NEW PRIVATE ROAD. A UH, THIS IS THE FACADE THAT IS PREDOMINANTLY RETAIL AT GRADE, UH, WITH A COUPLE OF PEOS PASSING THROUGH THE RETAIL ZONE TO GET TO THE PUBLIC PARKING BEHIND. UM, YOU CAN, WE HAVE SHOWN THAT IN THESE RENDERINGS AS WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, ALL OF THAT IS REALLY ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO YOU ON A PIECEMEAL BASIS BY THOSE RETAIL TENANTS AS THEY ARE LEASED IN. UM, BUT WE WANTED TO SHOW SOMETHING SO THAT YOU'D GET A SENSE OF SCALE. UM, SAME THING IS TRUE FOR SIGNAGE. UH, YOU WILL SEE SIGNAGE HERE. UM, MOST OF THAT SIGNAGE IS PLACEHOLDER. UM, ALL OF IT'S PLACEHOLDER AND IT WILL COME THROUGH YOU WITH A, WITH A SIGNAGE, UM, SUBMITTAL IN THE FUTURE. UM, AGAIN, UH, OUR GOAL HERE, WOW, THAT'S NOT, LET'S TURN. UM, IS THAT BETTER? OKAY, GREAT. THANKS. UM, THE GOAL HERE WAS TO CREATE, IS THAT BETTER? I CAN TRY TO TALK REALLY CLOSE. THERE WE GO. ALRIGHT. UM, SO THE, THE GOAL HERE WAS WE BASICALLY HAVE THREE LANGUAGES ON THE FACE OF THE BUILDING, FACADES OF THE BUILDING. UM, EACH REPRESENTED BASICALLY BY A DIFFERENT BRICK. UH, AND, UH, THE GOAL WAS TO KIND OF CREATE A SENSE OF, PLACE A SENSE OF HISTORY, UH, BY INTRODUCING THESE LARGER BROWN BRICK PSEUDO INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS THAT WOULD FEEL LIKE THEY HAD BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE. AND THEN SORT OF COME IN BETWEEN THEM AND AROUND THEM AND ON THE WEST SIDE OF THEM WITH SLIGHTLY MORE RESIDENTIAL SCALE, ALSO SLIGHTLY MORE CONTEMPORARY, UM, ARCHITECTURAL LANGUAGES, UM, TO SORT OF, UM, NARRATE A A AN EXPERIENCE OF THE BUILDING GROWING OVER TIME. UM, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY, UM, FACADES AS YOU TURN IN WITH ONE OF OUR LARGER, UH, SIGNS. AND AGAIN, THAT'S PLACEHOLDER, UM, BUT WE DO PLAN ON DOING A PRETTY LARGE FEATURE THERE. UH, YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE OLD MILTON, UH, PARKWAY FACING, UH, UH, BROWN BRICK BUILDING HERE AGAIN, UH, USING A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL, PSEUDO HISTORIC INDUSTRIAL LANGUAGE HERE, UH, INCLUDING, UH, BRICK RECESSES, CORNICES, UM, CORBETT BRICK DETAILS. UH, ALL OF THAT IS HAPPENING IN THESE FACADES. UH, AS YOU GO DOWN, UH, THE PRIVATE STREET, UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE, THE WHITE ZONE IN THE CENTER IS, IS THE WHITE BRICK UP HERE. UM, AGAIN, IT WAS FILLED IN LATER. UH, OR THE IDEA IS THAT IT WAS FILLED IN LATER. THAT WILL BE THE PRIMARY, UH, RETAIL FRONTAGE. AND AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, THAT BRICK AND THOSE PIERS WILL, WILL MOST LIKELY BE, WILL BE DAY ONE, UH, PART OF THE BUILDING ARCHITECTURE, BUT NOTHING IN BETWEEN. THAT WILL BE, UM, PART OF THIS, UH, ALL OF THAT WILL BE FUTURE RETAIL. AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, RESIDENTIAL ABOVE THAT. AND AS, AS I GO DOWN TO THE NEXT PAGE HERE, UH, YOU CAN SEE THIS SAME FACADE BEFORE, BEFORE YOU GET OFF, I'M SORRY. SURE. BEFORE YOU GO OFF THAT PAGE, UH, WHERE, WHERE IS, ALRIGHT, THE FIRST FLOOR IS GONNA BE RETAIL PRIMARILY. KIND OF TAKE YOUR CURSOR IF YOU CAN. SURE. GIVE US A, A LINE OF WHERE THAT HAPPENS AND THEN WHERE THE . SURE. SO THE, THE LINE IS, IS ROUGHLY HERE, I CAN ACTUALLY JUST DRAW IT RIGHT ON THE SCREEN. UH, THE LINE IS, IS BASICALLY THERE SO EVERYTHING BELOW THAT LINE IS RETAIL. OKAY. UH, ON THIS FACADE AND EVERYTHING ABOVE IT IS RESIDENTIAL. UM, THE RETAIL IS ACTUALLY TWO STORIES HIGH TO GIVE IT THE, THE HEIGHT THAT IT NEEDS FUNCTION AS A RETAIL SPACE. UH, AND THEN AS, AS WE COME DOWN THE HILL, OOPS, FORGIVE ME. AS WE COME DOWN THE HILL AND [02:20:01] WE'RE NOW ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, LOOKING AT IT FROM SORT OF THE CENTRAL ZONE OF, OF THIS PHASE ONE, UH, WE'RE AT THE LOW END OF THE SITE. THE, THE RETAIL IS MUCH MORE PROMINENT HERE. WE, WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME, UH, RETAINING CONDITIONS THAT MARK WAS TALKING ABOUT, RUNNING UP STREET A HERE. SO THIS IS ALL MUCH MORE DIRECT ACCESS. UM, WE HAVE ANOTHER, UH, FEATURE FOR THE BUILDING, WHICH WE'RE SHOWING, AGAIN, A PLACEHOLDER FOR THE NAME OF THE BUILDING THERE THAT IS ANCHORING THE VEHICULAR ENTRANCE TO THE PARKING GARAGE, WHICH IS BELOW IT. SO YOU HAVE VISUALLY HAVE THIS ICON THAT YOU CAN HEAD TO MAKE, UH, INGRESS AND EGRESS OUT OF THE PARKING A LITTLE BIT EASIER, BOTH FOR PEDESTRIANS AND VEHICLES. AND AGAIN, UH, EVERYTHING FROM, ESSENTIALLY THIS LINE DOWN IS RETAIL AND WILL BE FITTED OUT LATER. UH, ON THIS SIDE, YOU CAN SEE AGAIN, WE'VE PICKED UP ON THE SOUTH END OF THE BUILDING, THAT SAME BROWN BRICK. UH, AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT CREATING THESE FORMS THAT FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOREVER. UH, AND THEN WE'VE SORT OF FILLED IN WITH THEM, UH, WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEMPORARY DETAILING, UH, ON THIS FACADE. WE START INTRODUCING SOME BLACK BRICK, UH, INTO THOSE SPANDREL ELEMENTS BETWEEN THE GLASS. UH, THAT BRICK IS DOWN, DOWN THERE AS WELL. UH, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. I THINK THAT'LL ADD A LITTLE, UM, MODERN TWIST TO THE, TO THE FACADE. UM, AND ALSO HELP WITH THE, THE VERTICAL PLASTER FEEL, HELP THOSE VERTICAL PLASTERS ON THE, ON THE BUILDING READ A LITTLE BIT BETTER. UH, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE CORNICES. AND AS WE COME AROUND, UH, THE NEXT VIEW WILL BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING. JUST SO WE COULD, BEFORE YOU GET OFF OF THAT ONE. SURE. JUST WANNA CONFIRM, I THINK YOU SAID IT, BUT THE WHITE WE'RE SEEING ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THAT'S THE WHITE BRICK? CORRECT. OKAY. AND ON THE LEFT SIDE, THAT'S, I THINK THAT WAS THE FIRE LANE, RIGHT? CORRECT. CORRECT. THAT IS THE FIRE LANE. SO THAT'S WHERE THE TRASH PICKUP THAT, THAT IS, AND DELIVERIES ARE DOWN THERE? THAT'S CORRECT. AND, AND IT'S EFFECTIVELY A PEDESTRIAN PLAZA THAT JUST HAS A VEHICULAR RATED FLOOR ON IT. SO IT WILL REALLY ARGUABLY ONLY BE USED BY LOAD-IN, BY TRASH AND BY VALET. UH, AND OCCASIONALLY MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE, BUT IT'LL BE A HEAVILY MANAGED ZONE. YOU HAVE VEHICULAR LIKE REMOVABLE BOLLARDS OR ANY KIND OF, I MEAN, 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IN THIS RENDERING, IT LOOKS, WELL, YOU EVEN HAVE CARS IN THERE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE A TOTAL ACCESS STREET. IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT. UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T COME TO ANY FINAL CONCLUSION ON THAT. UM, BUT THE, THE GOAL IS TO MANAGE IT SO IT WON'T BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE DRIVING UP AND DOWN REGULARLY, UM, AS WE COME AROUND THAT CORNER. UH, AGAIN, THIS IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE, AS, AS MARK MENTIONED, THIS IS ACTUALLY DIRECTLY NORTH OF, I'M GONNA EXPLAIN, AND YOU'LL HAVE, THIS IS, YOU'LL NEED TO TALK INTO THE MICROPHONE. SO LET'S, THIS IS THIS ZONE OF THE BUILDING RIGHT HERE, DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE AMPHITHEATER. JUST CLEAR. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. , UH, SO THIS IS BASICALLY DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE AMPHITHEATER. AGAIN, TRYING TO CREATE A FOCAL POINT, A BACKDROP TO THE AMPHITHEATER. THAT WILL, AGAIN, BE SOMETHING WE SUBMIT TO YOU IN THE FUTURE. UH, IT IS ALSO ONE OF THE PRIMARY, UH, ENTRANCES TO THE BUILDING, IF NOT THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING. UH, JUST OFF CAMERA HERE TO THE RIGHT IS THE LOADING DOCK AND THEN THE TRASH ROOM BEYOND. UH, AND JUST TO THE LEFT, UH, WE HAVE GRADE THAT DROPS OFF AND WE TRANSITION FROM A FIVE STORY BUILDING DOWN TO A FIVE STORY BUILDING. THAT'S A FULL SLOWER AT THIS POINT, WHICH IS WHAT THAT DROP IN THE ROOF LINE IS, UH, HERE. AND THEN, UH, THE, THE CONNECTION THAT WE'RE MAKING TO THE TRAIL WALK IS ALL PLANNED LEFT OF HERE. AND IT'S WHERE WE HAVE OUR POOL AMENITIES. UM, AGAIN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE THE INDUSTRIAL LANGUAGE ON THE, ON THE BROWN BRICK. AND WE WERE INTRODUCING ON THIS FACADE AGAIN TO BREAK IT UP AND BRING THE SCALE DOWN A ZONE THAT IS PREDOMINANTLY BRACK BLACK BRICK. THAT'S ALSO SET BACK, UM, THAT YOU CAN SEE OVER ON THE RIGHT HERE. UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S ALL IN AN EFFORT TO REDUCE SCALE OF THE BUILDING. UM, THIS IS THE PORTION OF THE BUILDING THAT IS FACING THE PARK. UH, IN THE FOREGROUND, YOU CAN SEE THE TRAIL, UH, THIS IS NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT REPRESENTATIONAL, UH, BECAUSE THE, THE TRAIL WILL REALLY BE KIND OF SPLIT BETWEEN THE 12 FOOT WIDE ZONE. AND THEN THERE WILL BE A ZONE THAT IS NOT CLEARLY SHOWN ON THIS RENDERING THAT WILL BE THAT, UM, GRASS PAVER FOR A VEHICLE RATED DRIVING TO, TO KEEP THE WIDTH OF THE, THE TRAIL STILL FEEL [02:25:01] PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. UH, AND, AND THIS POOL DECK AREA ACTUALLY IS KIND OF NESTLED IN AGAINST THE BUILDING. AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE WHITE BOX THAT IS THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING JUST IN FRONT OF THAT OFF CAMERA HERE ON THE RIGHT WOULD BE THE EXISTING AMPHITHEATER. AND JUST, UH, NORTH OF IT HERE ON THIS FACADE IS THE PREVIOUS RENDERING THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. AND THEN GREAT DROPS, UH, ALONG THIS TRAIL, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS I THINK SOMEWHERE AROUND EIGHT TO 10 FEET. UH, SO ON THE, ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS, UH, VIEW, UH, YOU START UP HIGH AND YOU KIND OF DROP DOWN INTO OUR POOL DECK AND YOU CAN KIND OF LOOK DOWN INTO OUR POOL DECK. BUT BY THE TIME YOU GET TO THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THIS RENDERING, YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASICALLY ON PLANE WITH THE POOL DECK. UH, AND WE HAVE OTHER, UH, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS OVER THERE TO THE TRAIL FROM THE BUILDING. UH, THIS IS ALSO A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHERE WE'VE KIND OF TRANSITIONED FROM THE RED BRICK FACADES, UH, TO THE WHITE BRICK FACADE. UM, MOST OF THE WHITE BRICK FACADE THAT WE HAVE IS ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE BUILDING, BASICALLY THE DONUT. AND WE'VE BROKEN THAT UP INTO A, INTO A MODULE THAT IS REMINISCENT OF KIND OF A ROW HOUSE OR, OR, UH, KIND OF A MUCH MORE HUMAN SCALE. UH, AND ALSO INTRODUCED, UH, BALCONIES AND JULIETS TO SORT OF CREATE A MUCH MORE VERTICAL, UM, LANGUAGE THERE. AND, AND THEN THAT MARCHES PRETTY MUCH AROUND THE ENTIRE BUILDING. UH, WE'RE CAPPING IT AT THE TOP WITH DARK MATERIALS, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT'S NOT BRICK IS A DARK MATERIAL. WE WANT IT TO BE SOMETHING IN THE BACKGROUND. WE DON'T WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION AWAY FROM THE BRICK. WE WANT IT TO BE SOMETHING THAT MAKES THE BRICK POP. UH, THAT'S PARTICULARLY TRUE WITH THE LIGHTER BRICK. UM, AND HERE WE'VE COME FULL CIRCLE AROUND THE BUILDING AND WE'RE BACK ON OLD MILTON, AND WE'RE LOOKING ESSENTIALLY EAST, UH, THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT POND THAT WAS JUST PREVIOUSLY DIS DISCUSSED. YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE IMAGE. UH, AND THEN THE TRAIL IS BEYOND THAT. AND WE HAVE A, A CORNER ENT, UH, ELEMENT HERE THAT'S MAKING A TRANSITION FROM, UM, SORT OF AN, AN A AND A B FACADE WHERE THE, THE ROW HOUSE LANGUAGE THAT IS FACING OLD MIL MILTON IS BROKEN UP A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE BRICK DETAILING, UH, AND HAS SOME TALLER ELEMENTS. UH, AND THAT CORNER PIECE IS ESSENTIALLY ARE JUST ARCHITECTURALLY A PAUSE BETWEEN THE TWO LANGUAGES. UH, AND THEN THESE TREES THAT ARE GHOSTED OUT, THESE ARE THE EXISTING TREES ALONG OLD MILTON THAT WILL REMAIN. AND WE HAVE PULLED THE BUILDING BACK AN ADDITIONAL 10 FEET TO MAKE SURE WE'RE OUT OF THOSE TREES, ROOT ZONES, UM, AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, MADE A NUMBER OF DESIGN DECISIONS TO, TO MAKE OR HELP THOSE TREES SURVIVE THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. UH, AND THEN THE, THIS LAST RENDERING IS KIND OF TUCKING IN UNDERNEATH THOSE EXISTING TREES, SEEING THE NEW SIDEWALK THAT WE'RE INSTALLING THAT IS SET BACK FROM OLD MILTON WITH THE WALKUPS ON THE TOWNS. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE, WE'VE BROKEN THIS FACADE UP A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, UH, SORT OF INTERMINGLING THE BROWN BRICK WITH THE WHITE BRICK AND EVEN INTRODUCED, UM, THE, THE BLACK BRICK AND, AND VERTICAL ELEMENTS. AGAIN, ALL IN THE INTEREST OF BREAKING IT UP AND CREATING THIS VERTICAL LANGUAGE. AND IN THE BACKGROUND, UH, YOU CAN JUST GET THE HINT OF THE MORE INDUSTRIAL BROWN BRICK BUILDING, UH, AS IT HEADS TOWARDS THE, THE PRIVATE ROAD THAT TURNS INTO, INTO THE SITE. UH, AND THAT'S BASICALLY A WALK AROUND THE BUILDING. UM, WE HAVE THESE 2D ELEVATIONS. I WON'T SPEAK TO THEM TOO MUCH UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT GENERALLY THIS TOP ELEVATION HERE, UH, SHOWS THE RETAIL FRONTAGE. ALL OF THIS IS ON STREET A, UH, YOU CAN SEE THESE WHITE BOXES HERE, THAT IS THE VEHICULAR AND ONE OF THE PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCES INTO THE PARKING GARAGE. UH, THERE IS ANOTHER PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE TO THE PARKING GARAGE UP ON THE, THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE, ROUGHLY WHERE MY CURSOR IS NOW. UM, AND SO EVERYTHING BELOW, EVERYTHING BELOW ESSENTIALLY THIS LINE, UH, WILL ULTIMATELY COME BACK TO YOU GUYS AS TENANTS, UM, FIT OUT THEIR SPACES. EVERYTHING ABOVE, UH, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE LIGHTER BRICK IN THE, IN BETWEEN THE TWO BROWN BRICK END PIECES. UM, YOU KNOW, AS, AS IF THEY HAD BEEN ADDED LATER, THE, THE RENDERING ON OR THE ELEVATION ON THE BOTTOM IS SHOWING THE, THE WEST FACADE, UH, BASICALLY WHAT IS FACING THE PARK. AND ALL OF THOSE GROUND FLOOR UNITS HAVE WALK-UP STOOPS. UM, AND THEN ON THE NEXT PAGE, THIS IS THE FACADE BROKEN IN HALF THAT IS FACING OLD MILTON. UH, SO THE UPPER ONE IS ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF OLD MILTON, AND IS SORT OF THE INDUSTRIAL LANGUAGE, UH, WITH RETAIL KIND OF POKING OUT AT THE CORNER ON THE FAR LEFT SIDE, AND GRADE DROPS OFF AS [02:30:01] YOU HEAD FURTHER WEST. AND THEN WE TRANSITION PRETTY MUCH AT THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING WITH THIS, THIS DROP IN HEIGHT HERE, UH, TO THE, THE TOWNHOME FEEL THE ROW HOUSE FEEL AS WE COME, UH, FURTHER WEST. UH, AND THEN WE TURN THE CORNER. AND AGAIN, ALL OF THESE TOWNHOME ELEMENTS HAVE, AS WAS ALREADY MENTIONED, THEY HAVE PORTICOS STOOPS AND, UH, TERRACES ABOVE, AND THEN JULIET BALCONIES ABOVE, UH, ALL IN, IN INTEREST OF ENGAGING THE FACADE AND ALSO INTRODUCING A MORE HUMAN SCALE TO IT. UH, THE NORTH ELEVATION HERE IS THE ELEVATION THAT IS FACING OUR POOL DECK. SO AGAIN, IT'S VERY MUCH THE SAME, UH, AS WHAT IS FACING THE PARK. AGAIN, ALL OF THESE UNITS THAT ARE ON GROUND HAVE WALK-UPS. THEY'RE A LITTLE SIMPLER BECAUSE THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THE, THE POOL DECK. SO WE DIDN'T WANT TOO MUCH PUSHING INTO THE POOL DECK SPACE. THE ELEVATION ON THE SOUTH, THAT IS THE ELEVATION THAT FACES THE FIRE LANE PLAZA THAT HAS THE CLOSEST THAT WE HAVE TO A BACK OF HOUSE ON THE BUILDING, UM, WHICH IS LOADING AND TRASH DOORS. UH, THIS WHITE SPOT HERE IS THAT OTHER CONNECTION TO THE PARKING GARAGE THAT IS PRIMARILY FOR VALET. AND THEN EVERYTHING RIGHT OF THAT IS A RETAIL USE. UM, AND AGAIN, THE, THE LEFT SIDE HAS OUR, OUR MAIN ENTRANCE WITH PLACEHOLDER SIGNAGE ABOVE IT. AND THEN THESE MATERIAL BOARDS ARE IN FRONT. THEY'RE SMALL ENOUGH THAT IF YOU WANT, WE CAN HAND THEM TO YOU IF YOU WANNA SEE THEM. UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE, THE GIST OF IT IS, UH, WE HAVE A, A BROWN BRICK WITH A BROWN BRICK MORTAR TO MATCH AGAIN, SO THAT IT FEELS MONOLITHIC. WE, WE WANTED TO AVOID MORTAR JOINTS OR VISUAL MORTAR JOINTS, UH, AND THEN, UH, USING, AGAIN, A DARK FIBER CEMENT MATERIAL TO, TO POP THE BRICK, UM, IN, IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. THIS SECOND BOARD IS, IS LOOKING AT THE BLACK BRICK THAT WE'RE USING PRIMARILY ON THE SOUTH FACADE OF THE BUILDING, FACING THE OFFICE BUILDING AND THE AMPHITHEATER, BUT IS ALSO USED AS AN ACCENT PRETTY MUCH EVERYWHERE ON THE FACADE. UH, AND AGAIN, IT WILL HAVE A, A BLACK OR DARK MORTAR. AND AGAIN, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT IS NOT BRICK, WE'RE TRYING TO PLAY DOWN, CREATE AS A BACKGROUND, UH, WITH A DARKER, UH, FINISH, WHETHER IT'S BLACK OR, OR VERY DARK GRAY. THAT'LL BE TRUE FOR WINDOWS AND BALCONIES AND PRETTY MUCH ANY METAL OR OR OTHER MATERIAL ON THE FACADE. AND THEN LASTLY, WE HAVE THE LIGHTER BRICK ON THE PROJECT. UM, JUST LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S GOT A LITTLE BIT OF VISUAL INTEREST TO IT, A LITTLE BIT OF TEXTURE TO IT. UM, AND THAT WILL POP AGAINST THE DARKER MATERIALS IN THE BUILDING AND, AND PLAY NICELY WITH THE RED BROWN BRICK. AND AGAIN, LOOKING FOR THE CONTRAST WITH THE DARKER MATERIALS AROUND IT. UM, AND THAT PRETTY MUCH CONCLUDES MY COMPONENT. I'M WILLING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, OTHERWISE IT'LL TRANSITION OVER TO LAUREN WITH CORE. RIGHT. DON'T GO AWAY. UNDERSTOOD. UM, , LET'S JUMP BACK TO, UH, SOME OF THE ELEVATIONS, LA ELEVATIONS THAT YOU WERE SHOWING THIS. OKAY, LET'S START WITH THAT ONE ENTRANCE TO THE PARKING DECK. NOW, ABOVE THAT, THOSE ARE RESIDENTIAL UNITS? THAT'S CORRECT. SO THE PARKING DECK IS AGAIN IN CORRECT. DEEP. OKAY. CORRECT. THERE'S A, THERE'S ESSENTIALLY A 60 FOOT TRANSITION ZONE BETWEEN THE FACE OF THE RETAIL AT THE STREET AND WHERE THE PARKING DECK ACTUALLY BEGINS. UH, THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ABOVE IS, IS NOT THAT FULL 60 FEET OF DEPTH, SO IT'S ACTUALLY SET BACK 10 TO 15 FEET, UM, WHICH WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF TO MINIMIZE KIND OF THE TUNNEL THAT YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GOING THROUGH. UM, AND THEN TO CREATE SOME VISUAL SEPARATION BETWEEN THOSE UNITS AND THE PUBLIC USE SPACE BELOW THEM. WE'VE INTRODUCED, UH, THESE BALCONIES HERE THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT WHICH, YOU KNOW, HELP PRESERVE SOME VIEW LINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T FEEL LIKE WHEN THEY'RE IN THEIR UNITS, THEY'RE RIGHT ABOVE THAT HEAVILY USED ZONE OF THE BUILDING. SO, AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A USABLE BALCONY OR IS IT A HIPPO BALCONY? UH, WE ONLY, YOU HAVE TO STEP OUT ONTO IT THEN. WE, ALL OF THE BALCONIES ON THE PROJECT ARE MEETING ALPHA AS ZONING REQUIREMENT OF A SIX FOOT BY EIGHT FOOT BALCONY IN ORDER TO BE CONSIDERED A BALCONY WITH ONLY A HANDFUL OF EXCEPTIONS. UH, WHICH ARE THE JULIETS ON THE OLD, UM, MILTON PARKWAY SIDE OF THE, OF THE BUILDING. WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF JULIETS OVER THERE THAT WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED BALCONIES. UM, AND THEN TAKE YOUR LINE AGAIN AND SHARE, SHOW US WHERE THE RETAIL VERSUS THE SURE. THAT, THAT LINE [02:35:01] IS QUITE LITERALLY RIGHT HERE AT THE FOURTH FLOOR. OKAY. UM, SO ON THE LOW SIDE OF THE SITE, THAT'S ON THE OFFICE BUILDING SIDE, IT'S PRETTY MUCH A FULL TWO STORIES OF, OF RETAIL HEIGHT, ROUGHLY 20 FEET, GIVE OR TAKE. UH, AND THEN AS MARK MENTIONED, THAT ROAD, UH, IS ELEVATED, UH, AND, UH, BY THE TIME IT HITS OLD MILTON PARKWAY, IT'S FIVE OR SIX FEET HIGHER. UH, SO WE'VE TERRACE THAT FLOOR AS WE GO UP. UM, OKAY. AND SO BEFORE THE TENANTS COME IN, OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE PUT SOME ARCHITECTURAL KIND OF CHARACTER, RIGHT? UM, WHAT IS IT, WHAT IS IT GONNA BE BEFORE YOU GET A TENANT ? WHAT IS IT GONNA LOOK LIKE? SO IT, IT'LL BE A TIMING SITUATION. SO THERE'LL BE A CERTAIN POINT WHERE, WE'LL, WE ARE EITHER GONNA BE BACK HERE TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE ARE GOING TO INSTALL, OR WE WILL HAVE LEASED THEM TO TENANTS WITH ENOUGH TIME BETWEEN THEN AND WHEN THE BUILDING NEEDS TO OPEN FOR THEM TO DELIVER THE SPACES THAT THEY WANT. BUT IT'S OUR PREFERENCE THAT, UM, WITH, WITH THEIR SUBMITTALS TO US AND THAT BEFORE IT COMES TO YOU. SO WE GET TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA POSE, THAT THEY INJECT SOME PERSONALITY INTO THEIR SPACES. DOESN'T FEEL LIKE KIND OF A PLAIN OLD SHOPPING CENTER. LIKE THERE'S, LIKE, I'M ACTUALLY PRETTY HOPEFUL HERE, LIKE THAT SOME OF THEM MIGHT BREAK THE RULES A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN, UH, THAN A TYPICAL TENANT MIGHT. I MEAN, MAYBE THEY CHOOSE DIFFERENT STOREFRONT TYPOLOGIES, LIKE KIND OF LIKE YOU MIGHT SEE IN AN OLD VILLAGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MAYBE EVEN SOME OF 'EM CHOOSE WOOD. LIKE I'D, I'D LOVE TO SEE DIFFERENT TYPES HERE. SO IT'LL BE A TIMING SITUATION. OKAY. AND THEN BRANDON, IF YOU CAN ZOOM IN MAYBE TO ONE OF THESE CORNERS. JUST KINDA WALK US THROUGH MATERIALS FROM THE GROUND FLOOR UP TO OUT MATERIALS. UM, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THIS IS, UH, THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING. SO THIS IS ONE OF THE BROWN BRICK, UH, MORE INDUSTRIAL LANGUAGE. ALRIGHT, HELP ME OUT GET, UH, MIKE TO POINT WHERE THIS CORNER IF, UH, IF YOU WILL. SOUTH, YEAH, DOWN. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. UH, AND THIS IS ESSENTIALLY BROWN BRICK. UH, WE HAVE VERTICAL PIERS AND P PLASTERS TO KIND OF CREATE THIS VERTICAL, UM, UH, FENESTRATION PATTERN. WE'RE USING THE BLACK BRICK, UH, WITH A, UH, STACKED BOND, UH, INSTEAD OF A TRADITIONAL BOND, UH, IN THE SPAND ZONES BETWEEN THE WINDOWS, AGAIN, TO INTROJECT IN, INJECT A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEMPORARY BRICK LANGUAGE INTO WHAT WILL OTHERWISE BE FAIRLY TRADITIONAL. UM, WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF DIFFERENT BRICK PLANES, UH, TO HELP THOSE P PLASTERS READ. AND THEN AS WE WORK OUR WAY UP TO THE PARAPET, UH, AND THE CORNICE LINE, WE'RE INTRODUCING A, A CORE BOLT CORNES, AGAIN, ALL RED BROWN BRICK. UH, AND THEN JUST, UM, A TYPICAL METAL COPING ABOVE THAT THAT HOPEFULLY IS NOT SUPER VISIBLE FROM THE STREET. AND THEN THE, FOR INSTANCE, THE DOOR FRONT OR THE WINDOWS OR THE GLAZING. WHAT, UH, SO THE, THE GROUND FLOOR WILL ULTIMATELY BE WHATEVER A RETAIL TENANT WANTS, RIGHT? UH, THERE WILL MOST LIKELY BE A LURE ZONE IN THERE SOMEWHERE FOR THEM, UH, WHICH WE'RE SHOWING. BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT'S REALLY GONNA LOOK LIKE ONCE YOU GET UP TO THE FOURTH FLOOR. UM, WE ARE PROPOSING, UH, A DARK FINISHED VINYL WINDOW AT THE MOMENT. UM, AND IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE OF THE BUILDING, THE INDUSTRIAL LANGUAGE OF THE BUILDING, WE'RE FURTHER BREAKING UP THOSE WINDOWS WITH LIGHTS. UM, THEY WILL BE SIMULATED LIGHTS. THEY WILL BE LIGHTS, BUT WE'LL HAVE MUS IN THERE TO HELP. WILL THEY BE INTERNAL TO THE GLAZING SYSTEM OR WILL THEY BE PROUD OF THE, THE, I DON'T THINK WE'VE REALLY GOTTEN THERE YET. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IF IT, IF IT'S INTERNAL, THEN DEPENDING ON THE ANGLE, YOU WON'T SEE 'EM AT IT. RIGHT. AT ALL. THERE'S, THERE ARE THREE OPTIONS. THERE'S FACE SUPPLY, THERE'S INTERNAL, AND THEN THERE'S SORT OF A HYBRID THAT IS INTERNAL WITH FACE SUPPLY. MM-HMM . WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT ALL THOSE OPTIONS. AND IS THE GLAZING CLEAR TINTED? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? UH, IT'LL BE AS CLEAR AS WE CAN GET IT. UH, WE'LL PROBABLY STEER CLEAR OF ANY TINTING BEYOND WHAT'S NECESSARY FROM A LOW E COATING STANDPOINT. UM, THAT'S PARTICULARLY GOING TO BE TRUE ON, ON ANY GROUND FLOOR RETAIL STUFF. BUT, UH, UP ABOVE, UH, WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING INTRODUCING ANY COMPANY. [02:40:02] SO IS THAT THIRD FLOOR FLOOR BALCONY? THAT'S CONFUSING TO ME BECAUSE THAT'SS NOT RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING FURTHER DOWN THE ELEVATION. OKAY. IF I WAS THINKING THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED, YEAH. LET ME, LET ME GO TO THAT FACADE REALLY QUICKLY. SO THOSE LOWER BALCONIES THAT YOU'RE SEEING IS, IS ACTUALLY THIS BALCONY HERE. OKAY. UM, AND THIS IS WHERE IT TRANSITIONS. SO ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE FACADE, THE, THE RETAIL REALLY ONLY COMES BACK ESSENTIALLY THIS FAR. THEN THIS IS KIND OF A TRANSITION ZONE AND THE RETAIL THEN TUCKS UNDER HERE A LITTLE BIT. BUT THIS IS BACK OF HOUSE RETAIL. SO YOU SAW IN THE CIVIL PLAN THERE WAS A RETAIL TRASH AND OTHER THINGS UNDER THERE. UH, SO THIS GUY HERE IS ACTUALLY A UNIT. SO THE, THE UNITS OF THE BUILDING ARE BASICALLY ABOVE THAT RED LINE. UH, AND WE HAVE A BALCONY THERE. AND BE HONEST, WE'VE LOOKED AT NOT PUTTING THAT BALCONY THERE, SO THAT COULD CHANGE. THANK YOU. WHILE YOU'RE ON THAT, SORRY, WHILE YOU'RE ON THAT ELEVATION, YOU SLIDE DOWN TO THE LEFT, JUST PAST THE LOADING AREA. WHAT'S ON THE FIRST FLOOR ALSO? SO THIS WILL ALL BE ALUMINUM STOREFRONT. UH, IT WILL BE BROKEN UP TO BE AS SIMILAR IN CHARACTER TO THE WINDOWS ABOVE IN THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS. WE REALLY WANT THAT LANGUAGE, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE LIGHTS, UH, TO COME DOWN TO GRADE. UH, WE WILL HAVE, BUT THAT WILL BE MULTIFAMILY. UH, IT, IT WILL BE AMENITY SPACE FOR MULTIFAMILY, SO IT'LL BE AMENITY SPACE. OKAY. YEAH. SO, UM, THAT'S STILL VERY MUCH IN FLUX, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN SPEAK TO WHAT'S HAPPENING BEHIND THAT GLAZING. UM, BUT THE GOAL IS TO HAVE, UH, LOBBY SPACE BACK THERE, AMENITY SPACE BACK THERE ON THE, ON THE GROUND FLOOR. OKAY. I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS. UH, IN GENERAL RELATING TO THE, THE MULTIFAMILY, UM, AND HOW YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE, UH, ARTICULATING THAT ON THE FACADES. UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE DEALING WITH, UH, DRYER AND BATHROOM VENTS? YES. UM, 'CAUSE THEY WILL BE ALL OVER THE PLACE, . UH, WELL OUR PLAN IS IS FOR THAT NOT TO HAPPEN, UH, AT THE MOMENT BECAUSE THE FACADE IS AS VERTICAL AS IT IS, AND THESE P PLASTER ARE, ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE SUCCESS OF THE BUILDING AND NOT JUST IN THE INDUSTRIAL PORTION OF THE BUILDING, BUT ALSO IF WE STEP OVER HERE TO SORT OF THE ROW HOUSE LANGUAGE, UH, THERE WILL NOT BE ANY EVENTS IN ANY OF THE VERTICAL BRICK ZONES. UH, OUR PLAN AT THE MOMENT IS TO CENTER ALL EVENTS ON WINDOWS. SO WE'LL HAVE CLUSTERS OF VENTS IN THE BRICK ZONE BETWEEN THE WINDOWS VERTICALLY, UH, SO, SO OVER THE WINDOWS. SO, SO LIKE FOR EXAMPLE HERE AND HERE AND, AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THAT, UH, WHAT THOSE WOULD LOOK LIKE. UM, ARE THEY GONNA BE HOODED VENTS? ARE THEY GONNA BE BIND INTO ONE? THAT'S BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN DISTANCE FROM ANY OPERABLE WINDOWS TOO. THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT. SO THERE ARE DEF A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT STRATEGIES FOR THAT. I DON'T THINK WE'VE LANDED ON ONE. UH, WE DO KNOW THAT WE WILL GROUP THEM AS, AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE, UH, WHETHER THEY WIND UP BEING COMBINED INTO A SINGLE LOUVER ZONE OR NOT THAT WE'VE REALLY LANDED ON THAT YET. UM, BUT WE WILL AT A BARE MINIMUM HAVE A DEDICATED DRYER EXHAUST THAT'LL BE HOODED IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. AND THEN, UH, AN ADDITIONAL EXHAUST OR TWO CER WE'RE PLANNING TO CLUSTER THEM AT EVERY WINDOW AND AT THE MOMENT WE HAVE SOMETHING AT EVERY WINDOW. SO AGAIN, IT'S, IT IS REINFORCING THAT VERTICALITY IS, IS AT THE, UH, KIND OF BALCONY AREAS. IS THAT RECESSED BACK AT ALL OR IS THAT PRETTY FLUSH? UH, IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY RECESSED. I'M GONNA GO BACK TO A RENDERING 'CAUSE I THINK THAT TELLS THE STORY A LITTLE BIT BETTER. UM, 'CAUSE SOMETIMES YOU, YOU COULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO 'EM ON THE SIDEWALL AND THEN THEY'RE GONE. YEAH. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY. I, I DON'T THINK THEY WON'T BE THAT RIGHT RECESSED. OKAY. UH, WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE'RE, WE'RE CREATING THESE KIND OF VERTICAL EYEBROWS THAT POKE OUT BEYOND THE BRICK, UH, ON EITHER SIDE OF THOSE BALCONIES. AND THEN THEY WRAP OVER AND ABOVE. UM, AGAIN, ALL IN THE INTEREST OF EMPHASIZING THAT GLASS ZONE AND THAT VERTICALITY. UM, AND THERE'S PROBABLY NO OPPORTUNITY FOR US. WE WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT ANY LOUVERS IN THAT AGAIN, COULD, COULD YOU LOCATE THEM ON THE UNDERSIDE OF THE SOFFIT TO AVOID HAVING, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY THE BRICK IS REALLY NICE WITH YOUR, YOUR, UH, LENTILS AND, AND ALL THAT. AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD REALLY DISTURB THE ARCHITECTURE. AND, AND A LOT OF TIMES THE CONTRACTORS COME IN AND YOU THINK THEY'RE GONNA DO 'EM SYMMETRICALLY AND PERFECT, AND THEY'RE LIKE PRETTY YOUNG. I THINK ESPECIALLY ON THE WHITE BRICK, ESPECIALLY ON THE WHITE BRICK, IT'S GONNA BE REALLY TOUGH TO, [02:45:01] ON THE DARKER SURFACES, IF THEY WERE PAINTED DARKER, A DARKER COLOR, THEY WOULD BLEND IN A LOT MORE. IT'S GONNA BE TOUGH. WELL, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALSO PRODUCTS THAT WOULD LET US COLOR MATCH THE BRICK ALMOST. EXACTLY. UM, SO AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE MADE A DECISION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT THERE ARE TWO KIND OF EXTREME VIEWS ON THAT. YOU COULD EITHER MATCH THE BRICK SO THAT FROM A DISTANCE IT ALL DISAPPEARS OR WE COULD MATCH THE, THE METAL. IF YOU HAVE ANY OPPORTUNITY ON SOME OF THOSE INSETS, I WOULD DEFINITELY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. YEAH. NOTHING DISAPPEARS. UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE ALMOST A, A DEEP A A MORE DETAILED PICTURE OF WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 355 OF THESE OR GUYS TIMES THREE . YEAH. FOUR. UM, SO YEAH, I MEAN, IT LOOKS GREAT NOW AND WHEN BRETT GOES OUT THERE TO GET YOUR CO AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THIS AND YOU'VE GOT SOME OTHER THINGS, IT'S, WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. UNDERSTOOD. UH, WE'D LIKE TO NOW. YEAH, I THINK, I THINK YOU PERSONALLY, I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THE, THE ARCHITECTURE SIDES. I MEAN, IT, I AGREE. TO ME, I THINK IT LOOKS, UM, I HAD A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT PERTAIN TO DETAILS. UM, ARE ALL OF THE ROOF DRAINS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES IN LIKE, UH, INTERNAL? INTERNAL? THERE'S NO, UH, GUT GUTTERS AND DOWNSPOUTS OR ANYTHING, UH, ON THE MAIN BUILDING ON THE TALLER OF THE TWO BUILDINGS. I'M GONNA ACTUALLY JUMP BACK EVEN FURTHER HERE. UH, SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS PLAN, UM, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING ON THE MAIN BUILDING OVER ON, ON THE EAST SIDE IS INTERNAL, UH, OR WILL BE DRAINING DOWN THROUGH THE PARKING GARAGE IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. UH, WHERE WE HAVE THE ROW HOUSES OR THE ROW HOUSE FEEL, WE'RE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. ONE IS TO, UH, JUST DO INTERNAL DRAINS WITH SCUPPERS AND THE OTHER IS TO PLAY UP THE RESIDENTIAL NATURE OF THOSE FACADES EVEN FURTHER AND, AND INTRODUCE DOWNSPOUTS OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE CITED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. DO YOU HAVE ANY OVERFLOW SCUPPERS ON THE MAIN BUILDING OR ARE THEY GONNA BE THEY'RE THEY'RE BACKUP DRAINS ALSO LOOKING TO, THEY'RE ALL SLOPING TO THE BACK, SO THERE WILL BE NOTHING ON THE MAIN. OKAY. UM, AND THEN THE, THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE, UM, PERTAINS TO MECHANICAL UNITS. THESE ARE ALL SPLIT UNITS FOR ALL THE UNITS. SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A BIG FIELD OF COMPRESSORS ON THE ROOF, I PRESUME NOTHING ON THE GROUND LEVEL CORRECTING UNITS, CONDENSING UNITS. YEAH. YEAH. SO OUR, OUR PLAN, UH, WILL BE TO KEEP THEM AS NARROW AND ALONG A VERY CENTRAL ZONE OF THE ROOF. UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT IN OUR SECTIONS, WHICH WILL COME UP LATER. I CAN YEAH, UH, JUMP TO THOSE RIGHT NOW. UM, BUT, UH, ESSENTIALLY EVERYWHERE ON THE BUILDING WE WILL HAVE CONDENSING UNITS. UH, OUR GOAL IS TO PLACE THEM DEAD CENTER OVER CORRIDOR AND OVER KIND OF BACK OF HOUSE AREAS OF THE UNITS, HELPS WITH ACOUSTICS AND STRUCTURALLY EASIER AS WELL. UH, AND ALSO HELPS WITH SIGHT LINES. SO THAT'S GENERALLY THE GOAL. UM, WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN THAT REALLY SHOWS THAT IN THIS PACKAGE, BUT IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THE ROOFS OF THESE TWO OF THIS BUILDING, THERE'S THIS SORT OF CENTRAL ZONE RUNNING AROUND THE WHOLE PERIMETER THAT DEDICATED TO THE CONDENSING. AND THEN FOR THE RETAIL, YOU'RE RUNNING THOSE UP TO THE ROOF AS WELL? CORRECT. WE'LL HAVE DEDICATED RETAIL ZONES ON THE ROOF. ON THE EAST FACADE OR THE EAST PORTION OF THE BUILDING WILL HAVE DEDICATED RETAIL CENTERS ON IT FOR GREASE DUX AS WELL? CORRECT. OKAY. YEAH, IT'LL REQUIRE ACCESS ALONG THE WAY. OKAY. UM, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, JUST, UH, GO BACK TO A COUPLE OF THE, THE ELEVATIONS AGAIN, KIND OF LOOKED AT ONE CORNER, LOOK AT, LOOK AT ANOTHER CORNER, OR MAYBE WE LOOK AT A CENTER BAY AREA. OKAY. SO, SO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY IS, IS BASICALLY THE BROWN BRICK INDUSTRIAL LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE USING. UM, ON THIS SOUTH FACADE. WE HAVE THAT SAME LANGUAGE, BUT WE'RE SWITCHING TO ALL BLACK BRICK. UH, AND THAT PLANE IS SET BACK 10 TO 12 FEET. UM, AND AGAIN, IT'S REALLY JUST A HYPHEN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS, UH, AND WILL INJECT A LITTLE BIT MORE MODERN MATERIAL EVEN THOUGH THE LANGUAGE OF THE BRICK ITSELF IS STILL VERY INDUSTRIAL. UH, BUT AGAIN, THE, THE, THE COMPONENTS ARE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME. WE HAVE THE, THE STACKED BOND, UH, BLACK BRICK SPANDREL ELEMENTS. WE HAVE THE PIERS, UH, THAT WILL BE A, UH, A, A SIMILAR BUT SLIGHTLY LIGHTER BLACK BRICK. UH, AND WE HAVE THE SAME, UH, CORNICE DETAILING ON THE BLACK BRICK AS WE DO ON THE BROWN BRICK, JUST AT A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT HEIGHT TO DISTINGUISH THE TWO. UM, WE HAVE THE BALCONIES CANTILEVERED OFF THOSE FACADES. THEY ARE THE SAME STYLE OF BALCONIES. SO ALL OF THAT IS GONNA BE VERY SIMILAR EXCEPT FOR THE MATERIAL CHANGE. [02:50:02] UH, WE DO HAVE SOME, UM, UH, FIBER SPENT FACADES. THIS IS AN ACCENT PIECE THAT IS KIND OF WRAPPING THE CORNER, UM, TO THE FACADE THAT IS FACING POOL. SO WE'LL DO THAT ONE NEXT. THAT'S, THAT'S THIS GUY HERE. SO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING IS THE SIDE OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT. UH, AND THIS FACADE IS FACING THE POOL FACING WEST, FACING THE PARK. UH, WE HAVE TWO FLOORS OF AMENITY SPACE IN THERE, WHICH ARE THOSE LARGER WINDOWS ON THE, UH, BOTTOM TWO FLOORS OF THE BUILDING AND UNITS ABOVE. AND WE'RE USING THIS ZONE TO KIND OF START ERODING THE MORE, UH, HARSHER RIGID INDUSTRIAL LANGUAGE TO THE MORE CONTEMPORARY LANGUAGE WE'RE USING ON THE FURTHER WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING. SO WE'VE ELIMINATED THE, THE, THE LIT WINDOWS HERE. UM, AND WE'VE STARTED INTRODUCING SOME OF THE LANGUAGE, UH, THAT IS SHOWING UP ON THE MORE CONTEMPORARY ROW HOUSE PORTION OF THE BUILDING, INCLUDING THOSE EYEBROWS AROUND THE BALCONY ZONES. UH, BUT WE'RE KEEPING THE BRICK HERE AS THE RED BRICK, UH, IN ORDER TO SORT OF VISUALLY MAKE THAT TRANSITION TO THE, THE MORE INDUSTRIAL LANGUAGE, UH, BEHIND IT. UH, EACH OF THESE, UM, OPENINGS WILL BE FRAMED, UM, BY, BY A METAL OF SOME TYPE TO MATCH THOSE STOREFRONTS. AND THEN ON THE INSIDE CORNERS, UH, WE'RE JUST USING A BLACK FIBER CEMENT, COMES DOWN ALL THE WAY TO GRADE AND WRAPS UP OVER THE TOP OF THE BRICK HERE. UH, AND AGAIN, THE CHOICE OF COLOR IS REALLY SO THAT THE BRICK POPS, UH, AND TO CREATE HYPHENS AT THOSE JOINTS. AND THEN AS WE, AS WE MOVE AROUND, UH, TO THE, THE ROW HOUSE PORTION OF THE BUILDING, UH, WHERE WE HAVE THE, THE MORE VERTICALITY, UH, AGAIN, WE, WE'VE ELIMINATED THE LIGHTS ALL TOGETHER AND WE'VE, WE'VE PULLED, UH, THOSE BALCONY ELEMENTS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO GRADE WITH WALKUPS. WE HAVE, UM, THIS WHITE BRICK EXTENDING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE, UM, LITTLE BIT ABOVE THE TOPMOST FLOOR. AND THEN WE TRANSITION, UM, TO, UM, ONE FACADE, UH, PSEUDO MANSARD, BASICALLY THE FACADE THAT IS FACING OLD BUILT AND ESSENTIALLY A, A A MANSARD ROOF. UH, I CAN SHOW YOU THAT IN A RENDERING IN A SECOND. UH, AND THAT'S SORT OF THE PRIMARY ROW HOUSE FACADE. AND THEN AS WE ROTATE AROUND THE BUILDING TO THE WEST AND THE SOUTH, THAT TRANSITIONS TO A FIBER CEMENT. UM, AND THE DETAILING SIMPLIFIES A LITTLE BIT, UM, BUT VISUALLY, GRAPHICALLY, IT'S VERY MUCH THE SAME. UH, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE WALK-UPS HERE, UH, EACH ONE COMING UP INTO A UNIT, UH, THIS IS ALL HAPPENING ALONG THE FIRE LANE THAT IS FACING THE PARK, UH, WHICH WILL HOPEFULLY FEEL MORE LIKE A PEDESTRIAN PARK PLAZA TYPE EXPERIENCE, TRAIL EXPERIENCE THAN A FIRE LANE. UM, AND THEN THIS ELEMENT ON THE, ON, ON THIS FAR LEFT OF THIS ELEVATION IS THAT CORNER PIECE ON THE NORTHWEST ELEMENT OF THE, OF THE BUILDING. UH, THAT IS REALLY JUST THE HYPHEN AT THAT CORNER THAT IS TRANSITIONING FROM, UH, THE SIMPLIFIED, UH, TOWNHOUSE FEEL THAT IS REALLY PR PRETTY MUCH ALL THE LIGHTER BRICK, UH, TO THE MORE ELABORATE, UH, TOWNHOUSE FEEL. HERE. YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT HERE, THIS IS THAT BRICK ELEMENT AT THE CORNER. AND THEN EVERYTHING TO THE LEFT OF THAT IS WHAT'S FACING OLD MILTON ROAD. AND WE'VE BROKEN THAT UP FURTHER BY INTRODUCING THE BROWN BRICK ELEMENTS. UH, EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE TO INTERRUPT THAT MANSARD ROOF, UH, CREATE SOME MORE VERTICALITY, CREATE SOME HEIGHT AND DIFFERENTIATE THAT FACADE AND THAT MARCHES ALONG ESSENTIALLY HALF THE FACADE. UH, THIS PORTION IS THE PORTION THAT IS SET BACK BEHIND THE EXISTING TREES. SO AGAIN, A LOT OF THAT FROM OLD MILTON SHOULD HYPOTHETICALLY NOT EVEN BE VISIBLE. IT'S REALLY MORE ABOUT THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE AS YOU'RE WALKING UNDER THAT TREE CANOPY. UH, AND UNTIL, UNTIL WINTER TIME, THEN THEY'LL, WELL, THAT'S FAIR. YEAH. , UH, SO I'M SORRY, I'M JUST BACK OUT THERE. OKAY. SO SURE. AS I'M COMING, AS I'M HEADING EAST OLD MILTON, THAT'S WHICH, WHICH BASICALLY THIS WAY. SO THAT RIGHT HAND SIDE IS WHAT I'LL KIND OF SEE CORRECT. AS I'M HEADING EAST, RIGHT? CORRECT. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET, YEAH. AND, AND WE HAVE THAT, THAT CORNER AS ONE OF OUR RENDERINGS. UM, IT, SHE DID AS PROMINENT AS IT CAN BE, THAT THAT IS THIS ELEMENT HERE, RIGHT AT THAT CORNER. UH, THE HYPHEN HERE BETWEEN THE EXISTING TREES IS A LITTLE EXAGGERATED, SO YOU CAN SEE MORE ARCHITECTURE AND REALITY. [02:55:01] UM, THOSE EXISTING TREES CANOPIES ARE SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER AND CLOSER TOGETHER BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY REALLY PROPOSING ELIMINATING ONE EXISTING TREE FOR THE FIRE LANE CONNECTION THERE. SO IF A FIRE VEHICLE, A FIRETRUCK HAS TO GET ACCESS, THEY'LL, THEY'LL JUST PULL OFF A WHOLE MIL TURN RIGHT? RIGHT THERE, CORRECT. THE WHOLE MILTON, AND THAT'S CORRECT. THEY'LL, THEY'LL BASICALLY COME RIGHT UP LIKE THAT AND THEN THAT CONTINUES ALL THE WAY BACK BEHIND THE BUILDING, UH, AND SERVES AS A TRAIL. OKAY. MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. NO, I'M JUST TRYING TO VISUALIZE WHAT I'M SEEING. YEAH. AND THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE, ON THE MILTON FACADE. SO THIS, THIS IS THAT CORNER ON THE, ON THE WESTERN MOST END OF MILTON. UH, THESE ARE THE ROW HOUSES. UH, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING TREES ARE CONCEALING THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE WHITE BRICK WITH THE MANSARD AND THEN THE RED BRICK, AND THEN THAT RHYTHM KIND OF MARCHING DOWN. THIS HERE IS WHERE THE BUILDING STEPS UP A STORY, UM, TO THE INDUSTRIAL, UH, RED BRICK FACADE. UH, AND THAT IS REALLY CAPTURED IN, IN THIS RENDERING HERE. SO THAT IS, THAT IS THIS LANGUAGE HERE. AND THAT COMES ALL THE WAY ACROSS TO THE PRIVATE ROAD. WE HAVE, IF, IF I GO TO ELEVATION REALLY QUICKLY, SORRY FOR GOING BACK AND FORTH, APOLOGIZE. UM, THIS IS THAT FACADE. SO THAT STEP UP OCCURS HERE, AND THEN THIS, WHICH IS ROUGHLY MIDWAY DOWN THAT FACADE. AND THEN THAT INDUSTRIAL LANGUAGE CONTINUES ALL THE WAY TO THE PRIVATE ROAD. UH, WE ARE INTRODUCING SOME, SOME HYPHENS BETWEEN IT, UH, WITH SOME BLACK BRICK AND LOWER, UH, PARAPETS. AND IN ORDER TO BREAK IT UP VISUALLY SO IT STILL WON'T FEEL LIKE ONE MONOLITHIC FACADE, UM, AND KIND OF LIKE THE PROPORTION OF THE TWO SMALLER AND ONE LARGER, UM, KIND OF AVOID SYMMETRY. UM, AND THEN SORT OF DRAW AS MUCH ATTENTION AS WE CAN TO THE, THE CORNER ELEMENT, WHICH IS WHERE WE START BREAKING THE MORE RIGID GEOMETRIES DOWN TO, UH, BE RETAIL FRIENDLY. AND, UH, YOUR BALCONY RAILINGS ARE, THEY'RE ALL BLACK METAL. THEY WILL BE BLACK OR SOMETHING VERY CLOSE TO IT. AND JUST ON THE, ON THE MATERIALS LIST, ONE OF THE MATERIALS WAS GLASS RAILING SYSTEM. DID YOU USE THAT ANYWHERE? UM, THERE ARE, THERE ARE . , YEAH. SPEAKING OF THINGS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY CHANGING, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF PARAPET THAT IS ABOVE THE RETAIL FACING THE, UM, THE RETAIL STREET, THE STREET A, UH, AND SOME OF THOSE PARAPETS ARE, ARE LOWER THAN WOULD BE REQUIRED, UM, FOR GUARDRAIL PURPOSES. AND WE'RE STILL NOODLING REALLY HONESTLY, ON WHETHER WE WOULD WANT TO USE A GLASS RAIL THERE INSTEAD OF PUT SOMETHING UP THERE THAT COMPLICATES VISUALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING. BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY, BUT AS YOU'VE GOT IT RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ON THE PLAN. RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. I WAS LOOKING, I COULDN'T FIND IT. YEAH, I MEAN LITERALLY WHERE IT WOULD BE, I MEAN, NOT TO, I MEAN WE CAN OBVIOUSLY REVISE THESE, BUT LITERALLY IT WOULD BE LIKE SOMEWHERE NOT A LOT OF IT. UM, AND IT'S JUST BEING USED, UM, TO CREATE THE GUARDRAIL WHERE WE DON'T REALLY WANT SOME OTHER RAILS JUST POPPING UP THERE. INITIAL DISTRACTION, FRED GOING BACK TO THE OLD MILTON TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON, I LIKE THE CHARACTER OF NORTH ELEVATION, TWO CHARACTER DI ARCHITECTURE, AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO PART ONE, VERY MM-HMM . SO THE, THE 2D ELEVATION I DON'T THINK REALLY DOES IT JUSTICE. THE CHARACTER REALLY IS THE REPETITION OF THAT MODULE. UM, REALLY SORT OF PLAYING UP AN OLDER, MORE INDUSTRIAL BUILDING. AND WHAT YOU CAN'T SEE ON THIS ELEVATION VERY EASILY IS A, EVERY OTHER BAY ON THIS FACADE ESSENTIALLY HAS A PROJECTING BALCONY ON IT, WHICH WILL BE METAL WORK AND TENSION BARS. AND THAT ADDS A LOT OF VISUAL INTO THAT FACADE AS IT GOES DOWN. UM, AND AGAIN, AS AS MENTIONED, WE ARE, WE ARE SPLITTING IT UP INTO, UH, ESSENTIALLY THREE PARTS. YEAH, I JUST LIKE THE, THE, THE DIFFERENT COLOR BRICK THAT YOU'VE [03:00:05] CREATES THAT GIVES IT A GREATER OR TIN THAT IT DOES LOOK LIKE AT THE DARKER ZONES THAT IT STEPS IN PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY. IT DOES TO, DOES IF YOU LOOK AT, SO THERE WILL BE SHADOW LINES THERE, RIGHT HERE. I, I, I GUESS WHAT YOU WERE, AS YOU DESCRIBED THIS EARLIER, WHAT YOU WERE GOING FOR WAS THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, HAD BEEN A, LIKE A, A WAREHOUSE OR SOMETHING AT SOME POINT OR A FACTORY, CORRECT? RIGHT. THIS, THIS SECTION OF THE BUILDING AND THEN SOME OTHER THINGS GOT ADDED ONTO IT OVER TIME, SOME RESIDENTIAL. SO THE TWO DIFFERENT LOOKS, THAT'S, UM, AGAIN, ON THAT TOP NORTH EL TOP NORTH ELEVATION, WHERE DOES THE RETAIL, HOW FAR DOWN DOES THE, THE, THE RETAIL REALLY ONLY EXTENDS TO HERE. I SEE. SO EVERYTHING ELSE ON THIS FACADE, IT'S RESIDENTIAL, THIS IS, UH, AN EGRESS DOOR, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE ON THIS FACADE IS RESIDENTIAL. SOME OF THOSE UNITS, GROUND FLOOR UNITS, THE SECOND FLOOR UNIT BE WALK. CAN YOU WALK OUT? THAT IS CORRECT. CORRECT. OKAY. YOU'RE SHOWING ON THAT SCALE BUILDINGS IS ABOUT CORRECT. IS THAT TRUE? IS A DIFFERENT SCALE BETWEEN THE, ARE THEY BASICALLY HALF AND HALF? THEY'RE . I MEAN, WE DIDN'T DO IT ON PURPOSE EXACTLY. IT, IT WAS DRIVEN BY THE SIZE OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE BEHIND IT. BUT YEAH, IT'S ALMOST STEAD CENTER SPLIT BETWEEN THE TWO. UM, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE ROW HOUSE FEEL WILL, WILL HOPEFULLY BREAK UP THE, THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE FACADE SO IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE A TWO DIFFERENT THING FEEL LIKE A MORE PLAYFUL ELEMENT, LARGER ELEMENT THAT HIT FOR A WHILE AFTER TIM DID AND THEN ADD AT ALL. SO THIS PARTICULAR DESIGN FEATURE OF THE BUILDING WA WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO DO INTENTIONALLY. UM, A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS SOMETIMES FEEL LIKE A PATCHWORK QUILT OF LIKE WHATEVER MATERIALS WE CAN FIND AT THE MATERIAL YARD AND, UM, WE LIKE A RHYTHMIC EXPRESSION, UM, THAT IN, IN, IN THE EXAMPLE OF THE TOWNHOME SECTION IS VERY REPETITIVE WITH NOT A LOT OF MATERIAL CHANGES, BUT LIKE SUBTLE AND MEANINGFUL ONES, BUT THEN PORTIONS OF THE BUILDING WHERE IT'S ALMOST LIKE A MENTAL RESPITE FROM THE CONTINUING CHANGES. SO LIKE TO, TO STILL MAKE IT FEEL LIKE IT HAS A, AS A, AN INTERESTING IN AND OUT OF THE ARCHITECTURE WITH THE BALCONIES AND THE SETBACKS, BUT TO INTENTIONALLY NOT TRY TO MAKE IT FEEL LIKE WE CHANGE THE TIMES TO LIKE GIVE PEOPLE A MENTAL BREAK FROM SOME OF WHAT YOU, YOU SEE OFTEN. OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THE YEAH, JUST WHAT, WHAT ABOUT BUILDING LIGHTING, HOW MUCH I, I NOTICED SOME LIGHT FIXTURES HERE AND THERE, BUT HAVE YOU SETTLED ON BUILDING LIGHTING YET? UH, YEAH, THERE'S, WE'RE, THAT'S STILL VERY EARLY PHASES, FULL CAVEAT, BUT, UH, WE ARE ARE ESSENTIALLY KEEPING THE BUILDING LIGHTING AT THAT GROUND FLOOR WHERE WE HAVE THE ROW HOUSE LANGUAGE. WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THEM TO DO LIKE LIGHTING SO THAT IT STILL FEELS VERY MUCH LIKE A ROW HOUSE EXPERIENCE. UH, AS WE WRAP AROUND TO THE, UH, RETAIL AND SOUTH FACADES OF THE BUILDING, WE WE'RE UP, WE'RE, WE'RE EXPERIMENTING WITH GRAYS LIGHTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT ON THE BRICK PIERS, UH, AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT AGAIN, THE SCALE OF THE LIGHTING ON THE BUILDING ITSELF SHOULD BE FAIRLY SUBDUED. GENERALLY OUR ATTITUDE IS, IS GENTLE ACCENT, LIKE VERY GENTLE UPSET. OKAY. I LIKE THAT. I LIKE THAT. I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THAT COULD, COULD REVIEW THAT AND APPROVE. UH, EVEN ON THE SIGHT LIGHTING ITSELF, IT'S LIKE COMFORTABLE LAMP LIGHTING LEVEL, NOT LIKE OVER LIGHTING LEVEL. RIGHT. BUT YOU'RE INTENDING ON USING THE FIXTURES THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE SUBMISSION FOR YOUR SCO YOUR UNIT SCO THE PLAN [03:05:01] IS THINGS LIKE THAT. THE PLAN IS TO BE AS HOLISTICALLY CONSISTENT AS POSSIBLE WITH THE REST OF THE SITE. SO SITE FIXTURES ARE DEVELOPED, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN, IF NOT USE EXACTLY THE SAME FIXTURE, WHICH PROBABLY WON'T HAPPEN, WE CAN AT LEAST GET REALLY CLOSE STYLISTICALLY. AND, UM, IN THE PACKAGE YOU SUBMITTED GOOSENECK LIGHTING FOR, I, I PRESUME THAT'S FOR RETAIL AREAS. UH, CAN YOU SHOW US WHERE THOSE WOULD OCCUR? SURE. UH, SO THAT'S REALLY SHOWING UP ON THE LIGHTING PLAN. I'M GONNA RUN OVER TO IT REAL QUICK. UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING CANOPY LIGHTING AT THE FRONT, WHICH IS WHAT ALL OF THIS BLUE IS. UH, THAT'LL ALL BE DOWN LIGHTING ON THE UNDERSIDE OF THE CANOPY. UH, AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ISN'T A LOT OF ADDITIONAL BUILDING FACADE LIGHT HERE. AS WE GO EAST, ONCE WE GET TO THE RETAIL FACADE, YOU'LL SEE THESE ORANGE DOTS. THESE ORANGE DOTS ARE A UPWARD FACING, DOWNWARD FACING WALL SCONCE. AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO JUST GRAZE THE BRICK MATERIALS ON THE PIERS, UH, TRYING NOT TO BE OVERWHELMING. UH, THOSE ARE THE CYLINDER LIGHTS. CORRECT. THOSE ARE THE CYLINDER LIGHTS, UH, THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY SHOWING. UH, AND WE'RE RELYING ON, UH, TREE UPLIGHTING IN THAT ZONE AS WELL. AND, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, HUMAN SCALE POST LIGHTS, UH, THAT ARE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE SITE. UM, AND THAT'S REALLY THE EXTENT OF OUR, OUR, YOU KNOW, BUILDING FACE LIGHTING. UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF PLACES WHERE WE'RE EXPERIMENTING WITH DOING SOME SUBTLE, UH, LINEAR UPLIGHTING ON SOME BRICK WALLS HERE AND THERE. UM, MOSTLY AT THE HYPHENS BETWEEN THE TWO LANGUAGES, UH, WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL WINDOWS THAT THAT WOULD GET IN THE WAY OF, BUT UH, THAT'S IT REALLY WHAT, WHAT KIND OF LINEAR UPLIGHTING IS, IS LIKE STRIP, UH, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'LL NECESSARILY BE A STRIP. IT'LL JUST BE SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY MINIMAL. UM, NOT UNLIKE SOMETHING LIKE THIS HERE, THE BOTTOM LEFT AND WE WOULD CONCEAL THAT. YOU WOULD INDIRECT OR IT WOULD BE CONCEALED? YEAH, IT WOULD BE CONCEALED. WE'D, WE'D HIDE IT BEHIND A PLATE OR SOMETHING. OKAY. ANY OTHER, UM, TEXTUAL ELEVATION MATERIAL QUESTIONS? UM, ON THAT, THE METAL GRATE THAT'S ON THAT CORNER THAT, UM, ARE THOSE MOVABLE, THOSE LUBER LIKE UH, PARTS? I MEAN, TECHNICALLY YES. THEY, THEY'LL ULTIMATELY BE BOLTED TO THE BUILDING SOMEHOW. UM, THEY WILL BE A METAL, THEY WILL BE COATED BLACK. UM, THEY WILL BE DESIGNED PARTLY BY US AND PARTLY BY THE SIGNAGE TEAM. SO IT'LL BE A, A COLLABORATION. UM, SO FOR THAT REASON IT'S STILL A LITTLE BIT IN FLUX. WE HAVEN'T FULLY DEVELOPED A SIGNAGE PACKAGE YET, BUT THAT THE IDEA IS TO HAVE THAT, UM, THAT METAL LURE PIECE COME DOWN. IT REALLY IS THE, THE I, THE, THE MAIN IDENTIFIER FOR NOT JUST THE BUILDING ITSELF AT THAT INTERSECTION, BUT ALSO FOR THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT BEYOND. I PERSONALLY LIKE THAT FEATURE. I DO TOO. I THINK IT'S, AND I THINK THE SIGN LIKE THAT ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF SIZE WISE IF IT CODE, BUT I MM-HMM . OKAY. UM, I'M GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK. OLD MILTON, YOU DID A 3D RENDERING KIND OF AT THE CORNER, COME AND DRIVING EAST ON OLD MILTON. THERE WAS ANOTHER, THERE WE GO. I LIKE, I LOVE THAT CHARACTER. SO JUST AGAIN, IDENTIFY THE MATERIALS, IF YOU WILL, ON WHAT'S HAPPENING. SURE. RIGHT. SO AGAIN, WE, WE REALLY ONLY HAVE THE THREE BRICKS. ALL THREE BRICKS ARE PRESENT HERE. UH, WE HAVE THE WHITE BRICK, WHICH IS THE PREDOMINANT ROW HOUSE BRICK THAT WE'RE USING ON THE WEST FACADE AND THE SOUTH FACADE. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE HERE IS THAT WE'VE INTERRUPTED IT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WITH A BROWN BRICK VERTICAL, UH, ROW HOUSE. UH, AND THAT ROW HOUSE EXTENDS UP HIGHER THAN THE WHITE BRICK. SO IF I, IF I GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS RENDERING, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE WELL ACTUALLY CAN'T REALLY SEE IT SUPER WELL. UH, HOLD ON ONE SECOND. LET ME GO TO THE ELEVATION. UM, SO WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE IS WE'VE GOT THE, THE FOUR STORIES OF, OF WHITE BRICK WITH THE VERY VERTICAL READ TO IT, UH, WITH THE SLIGHTLY RECESSED, UH, BALCONY ZONES AND, AND ON THIS FACADE, THOSE, THOSE BALCONIES, THESE RAILS, THESE ARE THOSE JULIETS. SO THEY ARE NOT PROJECTING OUT, UM, BUT WE ARE STILL TREATING THEM [03:10:01] WITHIN THE EYEBROW. WE HAVE THE MANSARD ROOF UP ABOVE, WHICH WILL BE A METAL STANDING SEAM MANSARD ROOF. UH, THE BROWN BRICK, UH, BROWNSTONES EXTEND UP ALL THE WAY TO THE MAIN ROOF PARAPET. UH, THEY WILL HAVE BRICK CORNICE DETAILING VERY SIMILAR TO THE, UH, RED BRICK FACADE ON THE, ON THE INDUSTRIAL PORTION OF THE BUILDING. AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO KIND OF CROSS POLLINATE THAT LANGUAGE A LITTLE BIT. UM, AND THEN, UH, THE OTHER SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IS WE HAVE, I'LL GO BACK TO THE RENDERING. 'CAUSE THE POINT, YOU CAN SEE IT BETTER IN THE RENDERING, UH, AT EACH OF THESE ROW HOUSE FACADES IN THE CENTER, IT'S BASICALLY A THREE ELEMENT PATTERN THAT REPEATS. AND IN THE CENTER OF THOSE THREE, UH, WE HAVE THESE PORTICOS WITH, UH, COMPRESSED ARCH, UH, WHICH SERVES AS A FRONT PORCH FOR A UNIT BEHIND, UH, A TERRACE ABOVE FOR THE UNIT ABOVE BEHIND. UH, AND THEN ABOVE THAT, IN THAT VERTICAL ZONE, UH, WE HAVE JULIET'S THERE AGAIN, TRYING TO DECLUTTER THAT FACADE A LITTLE BIT, UM, MAKE IT FEEL REALLY VERTICAL. UM, HOW BIG ARE THOSE PORCHES? UH, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY DIAGRAMMED OUT TO BE AT LEAST SIX FOOT BY EIGHT FOOT, BUT THE SIX FOOT BY EIGHT FOOT HAS SOME CHANGE ON IT. SO IT'S LIKE FOUR BY EIGHT EIGHT OR SOMETHING THAT, UM, SEEMS KIND OF, IF IT'S, IF IT'S A SIX BY EIGHT, IT SEEMS KIND OF HEAVY WITH ALL THAT BRICK AND EVERYTHING. MAKES IT EVEN MORE AN ENCLOSED FEELING. YEAH. IF IT'S THAT SMALL OF A PATIO SPACE, YEAH, WE, WE DIDN'T WANT TO, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO, I THINK THE IDEA IS ON THE CITY'S BEHALF SAAS BEHALF IS TO ACTIVATE IT AND GET PEOPLE TO SIT ON THEIR PORCH, THAT SORT OF THING. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IF THAT HEAVY BRICKWORK REALLY ACCOMPLISHES THAT. OKAY. WELL THAT'S A FAIR POINT. I MEAN OUR, IT ALMOST SEEMS THAT IF YOU INTRODUCE, IF YOU INTRODUCE SOME OF THE STEEL ELEMENTS THAT YOU'VE GOT IN OTHER AREAS, IT WOULD LIGHTEN IT UP A BIT AND MAKE IT MORE, UM, UH, UH, BEING ACTIVATED. UM, JUST CURIOUS, HOW ACTIVE DO YOU THINK THAT I'M CALL IT THE FRONT DOOR? I MEAN, IS THIS WHERE DELIVERIES COME? IS THIS WHERE GUESTS COME, VISITORS COME, UH, SO IT'S MORE FOR, IT'S GONNA COME DOWN TO THE TENANT THAT IS FOR YEAH, SO WHAT WE TRIED REALLY HARD TO DO IS WE PLACED ALL OF THOSE, WELL THIS IS A SLIGHT EXCEPTION. THE, THE OLD MILTON PARKWAY, UM, PORCHES ARE REALLY ESSENTIALLY JUST LIKE A FRONT PORCH PER SE, FOR INDIVIDUAL UNITS. CORRECT. RIGHT. UM, AS, AS THAT WRAPS AROUND THE REST OF THE BUILDING, IT'S, IT'S REALLY PREDOMINANTLY ON THE WEST AND SOUTH FACADE, UH, ALL PARK FACING. AND SO THAT WAS VERY PURPOSEFULLY DONE WITH THE HOPE THAT THOSE WOULD BE CONVENIENT, UH, POINTS OF ACCESS FOR THOSE TENANTS TO THE PARK FOR WHATEVER REASON, WHETHER IT'S PETS OR WHETHER THEY WANT TO USE THE TRAIL. UM, SO, AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE PREDOMINANTLY ON THOSE FACADES OF THE BUILDING AND, AND DON'T SHOW UP ON SOME OF THE OTHER FACADES. WELL, IT CERTAINLY GIVES IT MORE CHARACTER. I MEAN, YOU'RE MAKING IT LOOK LIKE THEY'RE PRETTY WELL USED AT THIS POINT. SOMEBODY'S COMING. IT'S LIKE SOMEBODY JUST FINISHED SHOPPING OR HEADING OUT. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE. , ALWAYS. ALRIGHT. AGAIN, I LIKE THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER THAT THIS PRESENTS DIFFERENT VARIETY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER ARCHITECTURAL QUESTIONS? COMMENTS ON, ON ON THE COUNCIL CONDITIONS? YOU GOTTA COME BACK TO THOSE AT THE END. YEAH. OR YOU WANT TO DO 'EM AS WE GO? I'LL DO THE COUNCIL CONDITIONS BECAUSE THEY KIND OF COVER. ALRIGHT, LET'S, UH, LET'S TALK ABOUT LANDSCAPING NOW. LANDSCAPING HARDSCAPING. THANK YOU. EVERYBODY TELL YOU WHAT, LET'S DO THIS. I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA ASK THAT WE TAKE ABOUT A FIVE MINUTE RESET, GET THE BLOOD FLOWING IN OUR LEGS AND GO TO THE RESTROOM AND GET A COFFEE BREAK. AND SO, ALRIGHT, I'M GOING TO, WE'LL TAKE A FIVE, 10 MINUTE RECESS AND GET BACK TO TALK ABOUT LANDSCAPING. THANK YOU . JUST HIT ME RECESS THIS MORNING AND THEN GET STARTED BACK AGAIN WITH THE UH, PORTMAN BROOKSIDE APPLICATION AND I THINK WE HAD UH, JUST RECESSED AND WENT TO RECESS AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT LANDSCAPING. SO, ALRIGHT, LET'S TALK ABOUT LANDSCAPING. ALL RIGHT, HARDSCAPE. THANK YOU. UH, MY NAME'S LAUREN BAU. I'M A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WITH CORE. I ALSO HAVE MARK MASON, THE PRINCIPAL OF CORE WITH ME, SO YOU MAY HEAR HIM INTERJECT AS WELL. UH, WE'LL PICK UP ON SITE MATERIALS. SO PLAYING OFF OF ARCHITECTURE, WE JUST PLAYED INTO THE COLOR PALETTE AND HAVE FEW SELECTIONS HERE. [03:15:01] PERMEABLE PAVERS WHERE IT MAKES SENSE. STANDARD CONCRETE VIEW, SELECT AREAS FOR SOME WOOD AND STEEL TO WARM IT UP AND SOME ARTIFICIAL TURF IN. UM, YOU GET A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE. OH, I'M SORRY. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. SO THAT, OKAY, BACK REAL QUICK. SURE. THERE'S STEEL OR ALUMINUM PRIMED AND PAINTED IRON ORE AND THERE'S WOOD KURU, OR CEDAR, CORRECT. THAT'S AT THE PERGOLA IN THE AMENITY DECK. OKAY. SO THERE'S, THAT'S NOT REALLY A LANDSCAPE, IT'S A SITE MATERIALS. OKAY. OKAY, THANKS. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE STRATEGY REALLY, IT'S JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, LIKE A MENTAL PICTURE IN YOUR MIND OF WHAT THE SITE WILL LOOK LIKE. I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION EARLIER AND IT'S REALLY WE WANNA DO RIGHT BY Y'ALL, THE CITY PORTMAN AND PROVIDE LANDSCAPE THAT LOOKS GOOD YEAR ROUND. IT HAS NICE INTEREST. SO THESE ARE JUST SOME GENERAL IDEAS AND THEMES TO GET THAT THROUGH YOUR MIND. WE REALLY JUST WANT A HOLISTIC KNIT TOGETHER CAMPUS. UM, SO SOME WE'LL HAVE LARGE MASSING WITH MIXED SPECIES, NATURALIZED LANDSCAPE AT THE PARK AREA AND THE MULTI-USE TRAIL. WE HAVE STREET LINE TREES WITH LANDSCAPE CUTTING CUTOUTS REALLY TO BRING DOWN THE SCALE AND PEDESTRIANIZE IT. AND THEN REALLY LOW LANDSCAPING AROUND, AROUND THE FRONTAGE OF THE BUILDINGS. WE INCLUDED SOME IMAGES OF THE PLANT SELECTIONS. WE REALLY TRIED TO LIMIT SOD AND DO MORE PLANT SPECIES AND PLANTINGS. THERE'S A LAYERING OF OVERSTORY, MID-STORY GROUND COVERS, ORNAMENTAL GRASSES. THERE'S A WIDE ARRAY ARRAY OF PLANTINGS. THESE ARE THE UNDERSTORY AND SCREENING TREES. UH, WE HAVE A MIX OF EVERGREEN AND DECIDUOUS. WE FEEL REALLY CONFIDENT IT'S A 50 50 MIX. AND THEN WE'VE GOT PERENNIALS AND ORNAMENTAL GRASSES. REALLY THE PERENNIALS ARE IN SELECT LOCATIONS, UM, AS WELL AS SOME ANNUALS AROUND SIGNAGE. AND THIS IS THE OVERALL SITE PLAN. SO I'M REALLY GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH IT AND UM, THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AND GET INTO THINGS. SO ALONG OLD MOUNTAIN PARKWAY, WE'VE GOT SOME EXISTING OAK TREES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO KEEP. AND THEN UNDERNEATH THAT IS UNDERSTORY, PLANT PLANTINGS WITH FOUNDATION PLANTS THAT REALLY RELATE TO THIS SHADE CONDITIONS THERE. UM, THERE'S A WIDER RIGHT VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PLANTING STYLES. WELL, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT CLOSE KNIT, BUT THE SHADE CONDITIONS ARE REALLY WHAT WE'RE PLAYING INTO ZONE BY ZONE. BUT REALLY YOU STILL GET THAT HOLISTIC CAMPUS APPROACH APPROACH. SO WHY DON'T YOU ZOOM INTO THE, I'M GONNA SAY THE LEFT HAND CORNER THERE OR AREA. YES. AND JUST KINDA WALK US THROUGH WHAT SOME OF THE PLANTS, THE PLANT MATERIALS ARE JUST IN THAT OR IN THAT ZONE. SURE. OKAY, SURE. SO, UM, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE MULTI-USE TRAIL HERE WITH THE SCULPTURAL ELEMENT, UH, PLACEHOLDER RIGHT NOW. BUT WE HAVE FESCUE TO MATCH EXISTING. AND THEN REALLY WE HAVE KIND OF THIS, UM, BACKDROP OF PLANTINGS THAT PLAY INTO THE EXISTING PINE TREES. SO YOU GET SOME EASTERN REDWOODS, AUTUMN FERNS, OAK LEAF, HYDRANGEA, UNDERSTORY, PLANTINGS THAT REALLY DO WELL IN, IN SHADED CONDITIONS. SO IN THAT SPOT RIGHT THERE WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE POND. YES. AND UM, GENERALLY WE LIKE PONDS SCREENED. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A SCREEN, IF YOU WILL, THERE'S A, THERE'S A WALL THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE POND RECONSTRUCTION AND THE, THAT PART OF THE WALL THAT'S FACING OLD MILTON IS RAISED UP TWO FEET, THREE FEET OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. YEAH, TWO AND A HALF THAT CORNER. SO SOMETHING THAT I WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE'D, I'D LIKE TO SEE THERE IS, THERE'S A STRAIGHT VIEW FROM THE STREET STRAIGHT THROUGH TO THAT WALL. UM, AND THEN WHAT'S BEYOND AND THEN ON THE, IF NORTH IS UP, BE THE EAST SIDE WHERE THAT WALKWAY COMES DOWN, UM, THAT'D BE SO COME DOWN AND AROUND ON THE OTHER SIDE. UM, YEAH, SO COME DOWN THAT TRAIL OR THAT AND THEN WHAT IS THAT MATERIAL THERE NEXT TO UM, WHERE I'M ASSUMING THE GRASS, THE WALL IS NOT RAISED ABOVE GRADE. THAT'S THE GRASS PAVED FOR FIRE ACCESS. OKAY. SO IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN ADD SOMETHING TO HELP SCREEN [03:20:01] THE POND, BOTH FROM PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND FROM THAT OTHER VIEW OR ESPECIALLY THE, THE TRAIL VIEW. I MEAN WE DO HAVE THE FENCE, UM, BUT IT IS VERY NARROW SPACE. WE HAVE, WE CAN LOOK INTO IT. UM, BUT REALLY THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR EVERGREEN SCREENING DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF IT. AND I GET IT. IT'S A FIRE LANE AND SUCH, SO, UH, BUT I'M MORE CONCERNED I, YOU KNOW, WITH THE VIEWS FROM THE STREET, UM, RIGHT HERE AT THE CORNER I WILL SAY WE ARE SHOWING SIGNAGE, NO, NOT THERE. UP STRAIGHT UP RIGHT HERE. YEAH, STRAIGHT UP FROM LIKE WHERE THAT INLET IS STRAIGHT UP TO THE STREET THAT THAT VIEW THERE IS IS WIDE OPEN. WELL YOU HAVE THE EXISTING TREES WHICH ARE VERY FULL AND UM, WE THINK THAT IT'S WELL SCREENED BUT I UNDERSTAND MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME MORE UNDERSTORY PLANTINGS WITHIN THERE. OKAY. THAT'S IT. OKAY. SO AGAIN, THE FIRE ACCESS, SO THE FIREFIGHTERS ACCESS, RIGHT? GEO CELL FESCUE? YEP, THAT'S CORRECT. THE SITE'S IRRIGATED CORRECT? THE SITE IS IRRIGATED, CORRECT? IT'LL BE DESIGN TURF IS OVERHEAD SPRAYS. WE'LL, WE'LL ENGAGE SOMEBODY ON A DESIGN BUILD BASIS, LIKE IDENTIFYING THE PLANTS FOR THEM TO PROPOSE THE BEST SOLUTIONS FOR THOSE INDIVIDUAL LOCATIONS. SO THINGS LIKE AUTUMN FERNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY DO BETTER WITH SOME OVERHEAD SPRAYS, THAT KIND OF THING. UM, SO SOMETHING Y'ALL NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT CERTAIN AREAS WILL HAVE OVERHEAD SPRAY AND IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT COMES OFF A TURF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, RATHER THAN JUST DRIP NEEDS. ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE IRRIGATED. OKAY. SO AS WE MOVE ALONG THE FOUNDATION, WE HAVE THIS SIGNAGE ELEMENT HERE WHERE WE HAVE RY OPEN FRONT AND THEN ANNUAL COLOR IN THE BED AND THEN WE GET THE FOUNDATION PLANTINGS, UM, WITH UNDERSTORY TREES, EASTERN RED BUDS. UM, THE FESCUE CONTINUES HERE AND YOU REALLY GET NICE FOUNDATION PLANTING THAT'S NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, CORRECT? IT IS, IT'S REALLY NORTH IS KIND OF LIKE THIS. SO I'VE GOT A CONCERN AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MY COLLEAGUES AS WELL. UM, WITH RED BUDS IT'S GONNA BE HEAVY, HEAVY, HEAVY SHADE. AND AS YOU KNOW, RED BUDS AREN'T DOING THE BEST AS THEY COME OUTTA NURSES THESE DAY DAYS ANYWAY. AND THEY'RE KINDA HARD TO FIND BECAUSE OF THAT. UM, BUT RED BUDS IN THERE I THINK ARE GONNA BE PROBLEMATIC AND I THINK THEY'LL PROBABLY FAIL 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE 100% SHADE. UM, SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO RETHINK IS, IS THAT A TREE FOR THE SAKE OF BEING A TREE OR IS THAT A TREE? BECAUSE THE CITY NEEDS IT TO BE A TREE. I BELIEVE IT WILL BE A REQUIREMENT WITH, UM, THE FOREST AND THE ZONING CONDITION OR DUMP THE ZONING CONDITIONS. PERMITTING CONDITIONS. OKAY. HAVING, I THINK EVERY 25 FEET A TREE. SO, BUT GENERALLY, LIKE WE WANT, LIKE, WE WANT IT, WE WANT MULTILAYERED DENSITY THROUGH WE'RE, WE'RE NOT JUST DOING IT 'CAUSE YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO IT, DO WANT IT TO BE HEAVILY PLANTED. OKAY. SO WE CAN MAYBE CONSIDER A DOGWOOD OR CHINESE, NOT A CHINESE, SOMETHING ELSE THAT WOULD, I, I SAW SWEET BEE MAGNOLIAS ON YOUR LIST. MM-HMM . UM, THEY MIGHT BE OKAY. UM, I, I, RED BUDS ARE JUST, THEY'RE, THEY'RE FINICKY. THEY CAN BE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PAIN RIGHT NOW AND I JUST DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA, THEY NEED SUN AND THEY, THEY AREN'T GONNA GET ANY OF THAT. YEAH. WE SEE THEM AS PART SHADE, BUT I, THEY'RE DOWN HERE. NO, I AGREE. SUGGESTIONS ARE A LOT OF DIFFICULTIES, UH, SOURCING THOSE, I MEAN, IT COULD BE DIFFERENT AT THE TIME OF, UM, INSTALLATION HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE INSTALL IS, BUT, UM, YEAH, I THINK IT'S A VALID COMMENT. I THINK THE SWEET BAYES ARE A BETTER ALTERNATIVE GIVEN THE EXPOSURE LEVELS. BUT WE DO LIKE THAT LAYEREDNESS AND WE JUST, WE WANTED SOMETHING UNDERSTORY TO SORT OF BREAK UP THE ARCHITECT'S ODD IN THAT LOCATION. RED, RED BUTT IS BY FAR MY FAVORITE TREE IN THIS SPRING. YEAH. YEAH, FOR SURE. UM, ANY TREATMENT PLANNED? I SEE THE, I'M, I'M ASSUMING THE, THE DASHED LINE OR THE DOUBLE DASHED LINE IS, UH, RIGHT OF WAY PROPERTY LINE. PROPERTY LINE RIGHT HERE. YEAH. AT THE TREES. SO THERE'S NO PLANS FOR ANYTHING ABOVE THAT AT ALL. RIGHT NOW THERE'S FESCUE EXISTING AND IT SEEMS TO BE DOING REALLY WELL. IT'S NOT GRAYED OUT OR ANYTHING, SO WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT. OH, IT'S DOING WELL. OKAY. IT'S DOING WELL . JUST MINIMIZING THE IMPACT ON THE EXISTING TREES IS SOMETHING WE'RE JUST AWARE OF. OKAY. AND THIS IS A QUESTION FOR MR. GREEN. UM, WILL YOU ALL HAVE AN, A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY TO TAKE THAT FROM CURB TO BUILDING? YES, SIR. OKAY. SO THAT'LL BE ALL YOURS? YES SIR. OKAY. SO WE'LL BE IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO [03:25:01] TAKE THAT OVER. OKAY. THANK YOU. AS WE CONTINUE ALONG OLD MELTON, WE CONTINUE THE TREES WITH NEW, NEW TREES TO MATCH THE EXISTING UNDERNEATH THAT, I BELIEVE IT WILL STILL BE SHADED. IT'S DUE NORTH. WE HAVE MAHOYA, AUTUMN FUR, AND LILY TURF IN FRONT OF THE WALL AREAS BELOW. AND WE ALSO HAVE A HEDGE HERE. I CAN'T HEAR YOU VERY WELL. SORRY. WE ALSO HAVE A HEDGE HERE ALONG OLD MILTON. WHAT'S THAT HEDGE I'M LOOKING FOR? OH, IT'S BURFORD. BURFORD HOLLY. I SEE. YEAH. AND THEN WE MAKE OUR WAY INTO THE SITE AND YOU GET THE TREE LINED STREET WITH, IS THAT CROSSWALK UP THERE? IS THAT TRUE PAVERS? I WOULD BELIEVE IT WILL BE PERMEABLE PAPERS, TRUE PAPERS THAT IT , THAT'S A DOT PERMIT, UM, SITUATION. SO THE INTENT IS TO MAKE IT PERMEABLE PAPERS, BUT OF COURSE WE'RE SUBJECT TO DOT'S APPROVAL RIGHTS ON WHAT THEY'LL ACCEPT IN THEIR, IN THEIR ZONE. OKAY. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHO GETS TO MAKE THAT FINAL, WHETHER IT'S PETE'S DEPARTMENT OR DOT, SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN WE HAVE A COMBINATION OF DWARF YOON AND THESE, UM, ELEMENT TREES WITH LILY TURF UNDERNEATH. YEP. YOU ALSO GET MEXICAN FEATHER GRASS WITH THE MIX OF COLOR GUARD OUT ON NEEDLE. BEFORE WE GO INTERNAL, CAN WE KEEP GOING TO THE RIGHT EXTERNAL? SURE. SO WE HAVE A PLACEHOLDER SIGN HERE. UM, WE EXPECT DANIEL COLOR AROUND IT, AND WE HAVE MAURA, AUTUMN FERN, AND MAHOYA. AND THEN WE SCREEN SOME THE TRANSFORMER OVER HERE WITH THEUM. DO YOU WANNA GO TO BROOKSIDE PLEASE? ALL RIGHTY. SO ON THIS SIDE WE HAVE A MIX OF ZOIA WITH NETTLE OAKS, SOME DWARF WAX MYRTLE, AND THEN WE SCREEN THE PARKING LOT, UM, WITH WHARF ORFORD HOLLY. WE ALSO HAVE SOME POTENTIAL TENANT PATIOS HERE AND WE PLAN TO ADD HEDGING THERE AS WELL. ALRIGHT. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE DWARF, UH, WAX MYRTLE GROUPING? ARE THOSE SCREENING UTILITIES? DO THEY HAVE A FUNCTION RIGHT THERE? THEY ARE SCREENING, YES. WATER. UM, OKAY. UTILITIES. WHAT ABOUT, UH, THE TRANSFORMERS ARE THOSE ARE ALSO SCREENED? UM, IN THE FRONT. I KNOW THEY HAVE TO HAVE CLEARANCE A CERTAIN AMOUNT, BUT MM-HMM . TYPICALLY WE WOULD PLANT AROUND THEM AND IF THEY NEED TO COME IN AND TAKE THEM OUT, THEY WOULD AND HOPEFULLY BE REPLANTED. SO THAT CORRIDOR RIGHT. SEE THE, THE RED DASHED LINE, I THINK THAT'S YOUR MATCH LINE. IF YOU FOLLOW THAT LINE, IT TAKES YOU STRAIGHT DOWN TO THE LOADING CORRIDOR. UM, IT'S A RIGHT, EXACTLY. SO IF YOU GO, THEN KNOW, IF YOU GO BACK, I, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMEHOW THAT WE, FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY, MANAGED TO BREAK UP THAT VIEW STRAIGHT DOWN THE CORRIDOR THROUGH THE PARKING LOT TO THE LOADING DOCK. SO YOU SEE OUT THERE BY THE TRANSFORMERS, YOU'VE GOT THE, YOU'VE GOT THE WAX MYRTLES UP ABOVE, BUT IT'S A STRAIGHT SHOT ANGLE, LINE OF SIGHT RIGHT DOWN THERE, UH, RIGHT DOWN THAT PARKING LOT CORRIDOR AND EVERYTHING ELSE. I CAN SEE IF SOMETHING WE CAN SCREEN THAT OUT BY THE STREET A LITTLE BIT BETTER. MM-HMM. SOMETHING BIGGER THAN THE DOUBLE ROW BURFORD HOLLY. YEAH. LIKE I'M NOT CONVINCED THOSE DOUBLE ROWS CAN STAY WITH AND GET ACCESS TO THOSE TRANSFORMERS. YEAH, I'LL, UH, ALL OF THE ELECTRICAL DEPARTMENT GEORGIA POWER, UM, SO YEAH. UM, I, I THINK THAT'S JUST, THAT'S ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT VIEW DOWN TO THE LOADING DOCK. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. I THINK THAT THE LANDSCAPE THERE COULD BE MAYBE LAYERED A LITTLE BIT MORE. UM, THAT KIND OF BOXED WAX MYRTLE GROUPING IS A LITTLE AWKWARD. IF WE COULD, I KNOW IT SERVES A FUNCTION, BUT MAYBE IT COULD LIKE SPREAD OUT, WE COULD LAYER AND LIKE PULL THAT DOWN TO THE SIDEWALK, UM, AND THE STRIP THERE AND JUST MAYBE GET A LITTLE MORE LAYERING AND YEAR ROUND INTEREST AND, YOU KNOW, JUST NOT THE BLOCK OF ONE THING AND THEN THE ROW OF THE OTHER. YEAH. WE CAN SOFTEN THAT. OKAY. AND LAYER IT MORE OF COURSE. AND THE SAME ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE WITH, I GUESS WE'RE SCREENING MAYBE A WATER VAULT OR SOMETHING THERE. IF WE COULD JUST KIND OF LIKE FEATHER THE LANDSCAPE OUT TO KIND OF BLEND. YEAH, I AGREE. OKAY. AND ON DOWN TO THE END OF THE BLOCK, IF WE COULD JUST OF NOTE, UM, I THINK WE'RE GONNA PURSUE A STRATEGY INSTEAD OF HAVING SO MANY [03:30:01] WATER CORE AND JEWELS. I THINK WE'RE GONNA SUB THAT WE CAN REDUCE THE NUMBER OF THINGS THAT ARE AROUND THE STREET. SURE. THAT WE JUST DECIDED, UM, BEFORE YOU HEAD DOWN THE STREET LOOKING AT BUILDING C FOUR, C FIVE, C SIX SEVEN. WE'RE REALLY NOT LOOKING AT TODAY ARE THE, ARE ARE THE FOOTPRINTS OR THE CONFIGURATIONS OF THE BUILDINGS SET AND STUFF. UM, THE GENERAL LOCATION. THINK, THINK OF ALL THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S GOING IN AND ALL THIS. UM, I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT FLEXIBLE SO THAT IF SAY AN X, Y, Z ATTRACTABLE TENANT THAT WE REALLY WANT, 'CAUSE THESE, THESE FOUR HERE ARE REALLY INTENDED FOR US TO BE FOOD AND BEVERAGE. LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS LITTLE SECTION LIKE RESTAURANT ROW OF THIS PROJECT. AND SO IF THEY COME IN AND THEY SAY, HEY, WE WANNA BUMP THE WALL THIS WAY AND SQUEEZE IT AND, YOU KNOW, MASSAGE THE SHAPE OF IT, WE WOULD TAKE THIS GENERAL PLAN YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOW AND WE WOULD RE-PROPOSE IN, THERE'S LIKE A DERIVATIVE OF IT THAT IS VERY CLOSE TO IT, ASSUMING THAT, UM, THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU GUYS. THAT'S THE IMPACT. WELL I'M JUST THINKING LONG TERM THAT MAKE THAT VISTA THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT ALL THE WAY FROM BROOKSIDE OR LOADING DOCK CHANGE BECAUSE IT, IT WON'T CHANGE THAT MUCH. OKAY. UM, ALRIGHT. I, I, WELL IT'S A BIGGER CONVERSATION. NEVER SAY NO. UM, I LAMENT THE FACT THAT THIS PARKING IS REQUIRED. UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST PROJECT THAT I'VE EVER DONE WHERE WE HAD SURFACE PARKING AND ALL DECKED. UM, BUT THE FEEDBACK FROM THE RETAIL TENANTS AND THE COMMUTER WRONG AS HECK THAT THIS IS A VALUABLE THING TO THEM. AND THEY, WHETHER IT IS TRUE OR NOT, THEY BELIEVE IT WHOLEHEARTEDLY. UM, OTHERWISE I WOULD GET RID OF ALL THIS SURFACE PARKING OUT HERE, LIKE, LIKE A HUNDRED PERCENT. SO I DON'T THINK IT WILL CHANGE MASSIVELY, BUT OKAY. THAT PARKING IS KIND OF DRIVING THE LOCA, THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE BUILDING. I THINK IT COULD SUCK IN AND PUSH OUT IN LIKE A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE FORMATION OF IT IS IN THE BALLPARK. OKAY. I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T WANT, DIDN'T MEAN TO GET US OFF TRACK HERE. SO, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT C FIVE THOUGH. THEY'VE GOT THE TRASH ENCLOSURE OR THE COMPACTOR ENCLOSURE. THERE'S A WALL THAT'S AROUND THAT AND THERE WAS TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE EARLIER. WHAT ARE THE WALL MATERIALS ON THAT AND HOW ARE YOU TREATING THE SCREENING OF THAT WHOLE AREA? UM, SO THE WALL RIGHT OUT FRONT HERE IS GONNA BE BRICK. AND SO WE'RE GONNA ELEVATE IT FOUR FEET TO BE, UM, THE FALL PROTECTION AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY A SIGNAGE OR WAYFINDING ELEMENT. SO YOU WON'T SEE THE DUMPSTERS WINNING IN WILL A FOUR FOOT WALL COVER THAT IT SHOULD 'CAUSE IT'S ON THE HIGH SIDE. YEAH, LIKE THE DUMPSTERS FOUR FOOT OVER THE OKAY. GRADE CHANGE. OKAY. AND YOU GOT EVERGREEN HEDGE IN FRONT OF THAT WALL. OKAY. WE DO TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT WALL, UH, BEHIND C FIVE AND C FOUR, UM, I BELIEVE YOU GUYS SAID THAT WAS GONNA BE A MODULAR WALL WITH LIKE A GEOGRID BEHIND IT. I'D BE CONCERNED ABOUT PLANTING THE GREEN GIANT ARBOR ITES ON TOP OF THAT. UM, WITH THE IMPACT TO THE GEOGRID, UM, WHICH COULD STRUCTURALLY IMPACT THE WALL. UM, SO MAYBE YOU'D CONSIDER A LARGER EVERGREEN HEDGE AT ALONG THAT BOUNDARY RATHER THAN TREES. I'VE HAVE YOU HEARD THAT? YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE RUPAUL SIZE AND WHAT, WHAT SIZE THOSE ZARB I ARE AT TIME OF PLANTING. BUT WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE MINDFUL OF THE EXTENT OF THE GEOGRID TO NOT INTERFERE. YEAH, YOU WOULDN'T WANT THE ROOTS TO IMPACT THAT OVER TIME AND INFILTRATE THE GEOGRID AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE WALL FAILURE NEGATES THE WARRANTY ON THAT WALL FOR SURE. YEP. YEAH, I THINK SHE'S YEAH. HAVE A PLAN B FOR, UH, ANYTHING OTHER THAN TREES. RIGHT. MOVING INTO THE INTERIOR, WE HAVE WILLOW OAKS IN THE PARKING AREAS WITH LILY TURF UNDERNEATH INDIAN HAWTHORNE BEHIND. AND THEN WE HAVE THE ELMS ON THE BACKSIDE AGAIN, AND YOU GET THE CONTINUATION OF LIRIO OAK WITH THE ADAMS NEEDLE AND THE MEXICAN FEATHER GRASS. REALLY WE WANT THIS PEDESTRIAN LOW SCALE THING. SO WE THINK WE'RE GETTING THESE ELMS THAT ARE MUCH, YOU CAN WALK BELOW THEM QUITE EASILY AND THEY'RE NOT A MASSIVE TREE, BUT THEY DO CREATE A NICE CANOPY. OKAY. AND THEN MOVING IN, REALLY THAT CONTINUES THROUGHOUT HERE. WE GET A SCULPTURE PLACEMENT HERE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF PERENNIALS IN FRONT OF IT AT THE PARKING AREAS IN THE CORNER INTERSECTIONS WE HAVE DWARF POND. [03:35:01] WHAT ARE THOSE MATERIALS FOR CROSSWALKS? THAT'S THE PERVIOUS PAVER AS WELL. OKAY. SO I THINK I SAW IT WAS A BEGAR PRODUCT. CORRECT. OKAY. AND IT'LL BE PERMEABLE. PERMEABLE, YEAH. FOR ACRO. AND IS THE CROSSWALK RAISED OR IS IT JUST FLAT? SO IT IS A SPEED TABLE. IT STARTS HERE AND HERE. AND SO THAT IS A FLAT UP RAISED. SO IT RAISES UP TO A YEAH, IT DOES. AND YOU CAN HAVE THAT PERMEABLE I BELIEVE SO, YEAH. YEAH. WITH CARS GOING OVER. YEAH. THEY MAKE, THEY MAKE NO PUMPING ACTION TO YEAH, AN INTERLOCKING PATTERN COLLECT. HUH. IT'S NOT GONNA COLLECT THAT MUCH WATER BEING AT TOP OF A TABLE. WE HAD 'EM FAIL ALL OVER THE PLACE AND WE DID THAT AND WE LEARNED TO CHANGE OUT THE MATERIAL UNDERNEATH IT. I MEAN, THE SERVICE DRIVE BEHIND THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING IS ALL PERMEABLE. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN THAT STREET CONDITION CONTINUES AS WE MOVE BACK TO THE MULTIFAMILY, UH, ENTRY WHERE WE GET A LITTLE, IT STARTS TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT, UM, IT GETS MORE AMENITY SKILL. AND SO WE HAVE LUKE'S LAUREL, UM, SOME FOR MORE FORMOSA AZALEA BELOW HERE. WE HAVE NEAR THE DOG PARK. IT STARTS TO BECOME MORE NATURALIZED AND PARK LIKE. WE HAVE RIVER BIRCH. YOU ADDED JASMINE SOME MORE MEXICAN FEATHER GRASS, HEAVY METAL SWITCHGRASS. I HEARD RIVER BIRCH. WHERE'S RIVER BIRCH? THEY'RE RIGHT HERE NEAR THE DOG PARK. TWO . I THINK IT'S THREE. YEAH, WE MIGHT HAVE, THERE'S, I THINK THERE'S SIX TOTAL ON THE ENTIRE SITE. AND THEY'RE FAR AWAY FROM MANY BIG HUS. THEY'RE JUST NICE IN A TIGHT GROUPING THING. YOU, IT'S, IT'S ALL INTERNAL TO YOUR SITE. SO I'M, YEAH, I MEAN, I'M NOT GONNA, THEY'RE NO TOUCH YOU ONE OR THE OTHER ON THAT? I THINK THEY'RE GOOD WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED. THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME RIVER BOARDS OUT THERE. UM, STREET A HAS ALL OF THE WALLS AND THE WALL PLANTERS AND THAT SORT OF STUFF AS YOUR, YOUR MAIN DRAG AS YOU COME IN. UM, WHAT ARE THOSE WALL MATERIALS? THAT'S, AND THEN WHAT ARE THE, WHAT'S THE HARDSCAPE MATERIAL THROUGH THERE AS WELL? IT'S BRICK TO MATCH THE BUILDING. UM, AND THEN IT, STANDARD CONCRETE ROOM FINISH, THEY HAVE A CAP. THERE WILL BE A CAP. SO THERE WILL BE A PREFAB PRECAST PRECAST. AND ALL THE CROSSWALKS WILL ALL MATCH? YES. YEP. AND THE, WHAT'S THE, IS IT ALL JUST ROOM FINISHED CONCRETE? THAT'S RIGHT. IT IS. OKAY. IS THERE ANY OTHER PAVERS IN STREETS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT OR ANY OTHER MATERIALS OTHER THAN ASPHALT? UH, JUST CONCRETE AT THE, UM, CROSSINGS AT THE RAISED TABLE. THE, AT THE RAISED SPEED TABLES AT THE GOTCHA. UM, ABOVE C3 WHERE THE EXISTING BANK IS. YOU GOT THOSE, WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WHERE THE HEAD END PARKING IS THERE OFF OF THE, THE BANK AND THEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR ENT OR, SO MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE, THAT IS RAISED UP ABOVE THE BUILDING FINISHED FLOOR. WHAT, WHAT DO YOU SEE FROM THERE? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? I KNOW THE BUILDINGS PROBABLY ARE NOT DESIGNED YET. WE DID NOT EVEN LOOK AT THE BUILDINGS TODAY, BUT WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE GONNA END UP SEEING PARKED IN THAT PARKING LOT? YOU LOOKED TOWARDS THAT BUILDING. THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S NOT YET DESIGNED, BUT LANDSCAPE WISE, I MEAN, WE HAVE A ROW OF LILY TURF IN THERE. UH, REALLY, I'M SURE THIS WILL EVOLVE AS THE BUILDINGS GET MORE DEVELOPED AND WHAT YOUR BACKSIDE, WHETHER IT'S WINDOWS OR WHAT KIND OF FOUNDATION'S HAPPEN, DO, WE COULD GET A VINE IN THERE. IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING WITH THAT. HOW FAR, HOW FAR BELOW IS THAT BUILDING ELEVATION FROM PARKING, I BELIEVE? YEAH. FIVE FEET. SO THERE'S LIKE A KNEE WALL THERE, YOU KNOW, THE FINISHED FLOOR IS SUBTERRANEAN. NO, THEN YOU'VE GOT FIVE, SIX FOOT KNEE WALL AND THEN GOT THE EXPOSED BUILDING. OKAY. WE, WE, WE, WE KNOW WE, WE, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SPACE AND WANTED TO GET SOME GREENERY IN THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S JUST A TOUGH PLANTING CONDITION. SO WE'RE JUST GOING WITH LEERY OAK FOR NOW. OKAY. WELL, BUILDING'S DESIGNED YET. NOPE. MAKES IT, MAKES IT A LITTLE, IT MAKES IT CHALLENGING TO DESIGN OUT THE ARCHITECTURE. BUT , WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD PLACEHOLDERS IN THERE. VISION FEES COME IN. YEAH. , WE STILL HAVE, UM, THE ART AND WE OWE FOR THE, FOR THE TERMS, UM, AND GENERALLY DESIRE TO DO THIS SEVERAL WALL MURALS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY IN ADDITION TO SCULPTURES. [03:40:01] UM, AND, AND AT LEAST ONE SOUND OR, OR, UM, LIGHT BASED ART FEATURE. UM, THOSE AREN'T PLACED IN THE SITE YET, BUT THERE, THERE'S SOME SELECT WALLS THAT WE PROBABLY WANT TO LEAVE AS POTENTIALS FOR ARTISTS TO EXPRESS THEIR HOW MANY ART FEATURES ARE YOU REQUIRED OR ON THE HOOK TO DO? IT'S SAW AT LEAST THREE. I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT I THINK I, I THINK WE'RE GONNA CONSIDERABLY EXCEED IT ANYWAY. UM, SO AT LEAST ONE LARGE SCULPTURAL ELEMENT, AT LEAST ONE, UM, EITHER AUDIO OR, OR LIGHT BASED ELEMENT. SO THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE A LIGHT PROJECTOR, DOING LITTLE BUTTERFLIES ON THE TRAIL AT NIGHT OR SOME, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, AND THEN A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT WALL MURALS. UH, SO WE ENGAGED CAT EYE CREATIVE, UM, WHICH IS OUR CONSULTANT TO WORK WITH THE ALPHARETTA, OUR COMMISSION TO KIND OF IDENTIFY THE DIFFERENT TOPOLOGIES WHERE WE WANT TO. OKAY. WE'RE HOPING IT CAN BE A LITTLE EDGY OR OKAY WITH THAT. THAT'S, YEAH, IT'S ALL SEPARATE FROM THIS BOARD. IT'S, IT'S ITS OWN PROCESS. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WITH THESE BUILDINGS? UH, NO. I WAS, I MEAN THE BUILDINGS AREN'T, WE'RE NOT REALLY ON THOSE BUILDINGS YET, BUT SOMETHING THAT STUCK OUT TO ME IS A POTENTIAL PROBLEMATIC SITUATION. THIS, THIS TOPIC WAS BROUGHT UP BEFORE, BUT JUST SINCE WE'RE REVIEWING THAT AREA, YOU'RE RELYING A LOT ON BLOCKS OF PLANTS. SO WHERE YOU HAVE SPACES WHERE YOU CAN MAKE A DRIFT WITH YOUR INDIA HAWTHORNE AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. YEAH, IT'S GOING TO ADD SOME VISUAL INTEREST TO THE EYE WHEN THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT A BLOCK, BUT IT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CURVES A BIT, SWEEPS THE EYE ALONG THAT LINE. OKAY. AND ALONG THE BACKSIDE WITH, AT THE MULTI-USE TRAIL, WE HAVE SOME LEE TURF AND, UM, LIAS ALIUM, MEXICAN FEATHER GRASS. AGAIN, WE HAD LOT BALDY PINES HERE. DOG PARK WAS BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT. AND THEN ALONG THE TRAIL WE HAVE SOME WHITE MULLY GRASS, NORTHERN SEA OES, PEEWEE OAK HYDRANGEA, AND THOSE ARE EXISTING PINES RIGHT THERE UNDERNEATH THOSE. OKAY. AND THEN AS WE MAKE OUR WAY INTO THE AMENITY AREA CHANGES A LITTLE BIT, WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE MIXED IN HERE. SOME LIMELIGHT HYDRANGEAS, SOME JUST, UM, POOR ROSEMARY OUT HERE. THE TREE SELECTIONS ARE TRIED IN MAPLES. AND THEN SWEET BAY ARE THE SMALLER ONES. AND THEN WE HAVE HEAVY METAL SWITCHGRASS IN HERE, SOME MORE DWARF ROSEMARY UNDERNEATH THOSE SWEET BAYS. AND THEN WE GOT THIS GAMING ONE OVER HERE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF SWEET SPIRE AND MORE HYDRANGEAS, A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, GRASSES AS WELL. AND THEN ALONG THE BUILDING WE HAVE OVERCO OAKS. IT'S A VERY UPRIGHT VARIETY, UM, WITH THE LIT TURF UNDERNEATH AND SOME LITTLE LIMELIGHT HYDRANGEAS. AND THEN WE MOVE INTO THE INTERIOR COURTYARD, WHICH IS REALLY THIS WELLNESS CONCEPT. WE SEE THIS BEING AS VERY IMMERSIVE, VERY PLANT HEAVY. AND IT HAS ITS OWN UNIQUE PLANTING AS WELL. IT'S, IT'S VERY SHADED. SO WE WANNA LEAN INTO THAT AND MAKE SURE IT'S EVERGREEN AND FULL. SO HERE THERE'S JAPANESE SPURGE, AUTUMN FERN, WE HAVE LOBLOLLY PINE FORESTS SURROUNDING WITH THOSE PLANTS UNDERNEATH. WE'VE GOT A BOSQUE OF TRIDENT MAPLES HERE AND, UM, SOME FROM OSA A MIXED IN AS WELL. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. QUESTION . YEAH. HOPEFULLY TO MAKE A DEAL WITH ARBORIST. YEAH. RIGHT. AND THEN WE MOVE ALONG THE BACKSIDE AND WE GET MORE FOUNDATION PLANTINGS. UM, WE GET SWEET BAY MAGNOLIAS WITH THE TURF, AND SO IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO CONTINUE THOSE SWEET BAYS ALONG THE FRONTAGE AS WELL. AND THEN YOU GET THE DETENTION, WHICH IS GREEN WITH BALD CYRUS AND LOBLAW, AND [03:45:01] YOU HAVE THE EXISTING PINES ALONG THE BACKSIDE AS WELL GOING. JUST A QUESTION ABOUT THAT, THAT BUILDING. THE, THE INTERNAL COURTYARD THAT'S ONLY ACCESSED BY CORRECT. AND THEN HOW TALL WAS THAT BUILDING DEEP OR HOW DEEP IS THAT? WELL, ALL 50, 60 FEET. FOUR. YEAH, I THINK IT'S FOUR STORIES. FOUR FOUR STORIES. OKAY. PRETTY DEEP. NO, YOU THINK YOU GET THE, THE LITTLE BUILDING IN THE CENTER IS BASED ON THE CONCEPT OF LIKE AN LONGHOUSE. OKAY. AND THE, THE, UM, THE THEME OF THE PROPERTY IS LIKE WELLNESS. SO IT HAS GREAT, LIKE A SIGNIFICANTLY UPGRADED GYM AND A SPA AND LIKE ALL THIS STUFF FOR WELLNESS. SO, OKAY. THE LITTLE, WELL, THE LITTLE BUILDING OUT THERE WAS TO CREATE A VISTA FOR PEOPLE INTERIOR TO THE COURTYARD AND TO CREATE LIKE THE YOGA SPACE AND THINGS THAT, THAT WE INTENTIONALLY MADE THIS A QUIET COURTYARD PUT LIKE EVERY OUTDOOR GAME PLAY OUT THERE. IT'S LIKE, WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT. WE, WE WANTED IT TO BE QUIET IN NATURE. LIKE THAT'S THE WELLBEING BUILDING IN THE, WELL IT'S ONLY, UM, IT'S ONLY LIKE A, A STORY AND A HALF TALL. OKAY. WITH A, ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. SO, OKAY, HERE WE GO. LITTLE YEP. LITTLE ABOVE THERE. RIGHT HERE. THAT'S RIGHT. SO THE, THE ENTRANCES TO THE UNITS ARE ALL THIS INTERIOR HALLWAY. AM I READING THAT RIGHT? THE ENTRANCES TO THE UNITS ARE FROM THE INTERIOR. THE INTERIOR. THAT'S CORRECT. SO LIKE THE PEOPLE ON THE INTERIOR, ARE THEY THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN SEE THIS INTERIOR? YEAH. ALL STOR. YES. ALL STORIES TO THE INTERIOR. THAT'S THEIR VISTA. OKAY. WHICH WAS LIKE PART OF WHY I'D ASKED 'EM, THE GUY INTENTIONALLY ASKED 'EM, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL, UH, WE DON'T USE OUR PINES ENOUGH. I KNOW LIKE EVERYBODY DO GIVE CREDIT , IT'S ALL ABOUT DENSITY CREDIT. IT'S JUST, UH, MY THINKING ON THE SUBJECT CHANGED A LOT. LIKE I REALLY FEEL LIKE, UM, IT'S VERY DISTINCTLY EDMONT AND THEY CAN ADD SOME HIGH, LIKE I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE TO THEM THAN LIKE ICKY FEELING. MOST PEOPLE Y COURT AND YEAH, LA POLY IS PRETTY GEORGIA PINES THAT ARE NOT. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, UM, ON JUST 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS ON THE C EIGHT BUILDING. UM, WHAT IS THAT? WHAT IS THAT? UM, YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE BRIDGE THING DOWN THERE BY THE, WHERE IT SAYS BLUE CASCADE DISTILL RIGHT ABOVE THAT. WHAT IS THAT? THAT'S JUST ENTRY INTO THE OFFICE CONNECTS TO THIS EXISTING AMPHITHEATER AND THE MULTI-USE TRAIL. IT'S A BRIDGE. NO, IT'S A MATERIAL CHANGE. YEAH. OH, IT'S A PAVER AREA. GOT IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER LANDSCAPE QUESTIONS? ACTUALLY ORANGE CAME. I ACTUALLY HAVE TWO MORE QUESTIONS. GO AHEAD. SORRY JENNIFER, PLEASE. SO GOING BACK TO THE POOL AREA ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, UM, I THINK WE'RE PROPOSING SOME OVERCO OAKS. IF YOU COULD ZOOM INTO THOSE. UM, HOW WIDE IS THE PLANTING AREA BETWEEN, I'M GUESSING THOSE ARE WALLS AND THEN THE, THE SIDEWALK, BUT THAT IT, IT'S A SMALLER VARIETY. MORE UPRIGHT. UM, IT'S CALLED A MILK AND OVER CUP. SO WE SELECT FOR THAT. IT'S A MORE NARROW NARROW IS IT AN UNDER STORAGE? IT IS, YEAH. SO IT CAN, IT CAN WORK WITH THAT TIGHTER SPACING. BUT WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE WIDTH OF THAT LANDSCAPE AREA? UM, GEL. THIS IS, AND SO I GUESS, DOES IT HAVE A KILOMETER? I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE MILLIKEN. UM, OVERCUT. DOES IT HAVE A YEAH, SO THOSE AREAS, I, I'D BE CONCERNED WITH THE ROOT BALL IN THERE OVER TIME. UM, THERE, THERE, IT'S AN URBAN TOLERANT VARIETY. I MEAN, IT, I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD NEED TO CONFIRM THAT THE ROOT BALL DIAMETER FITS IN THAT SPACE. BUT I, I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT IT PUSHING UP OR HEAVING CONCRETE. OKAY. YEAH, I JUST THINK IT MAY BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT WALLS LIKE ON THE OTHER SIDE SURE. AND THE SIDEWALK AND IT WILL GROW OVER TIME. IT'S NOT GONNA STAY WITHIN THREE FEET. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST URBAN TOLERANT, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN, THEY CAN THRIVE IN THOSE CHALLENGING CONDITIONS. MAYBE YOU'D CONSIDER ROOT BARRIER OR SOMETHING IN THAT AREA JUST TO POTENTIAL. YEAH. ADD AN LIKE LITTLE EXTRA PROTECTION. IT'S VERY CLOSE. WELL WE REALLY LIKE THE [03:50:01] LA EFFECT THAT WE'RE GETTING WITH THOSE AND HOW IT SORT OF PEDESTRIANIZE THAT WALKWAY MAKES IT, IT FEEL A LITTLE MORE HUMAN SCALE. THINK IT'D BE NICE. YEAH. I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE SPACE A OVER TIME. OH, AND UM, IT WAS MENTIONED BEFORE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, UM, BIOSWALES AND BIO RETENTION. HAVE YOU GUYS, DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THOSE AREAS PLANTED SOUTH OF THE FIRE LANE? LIKE DOG PARK. OKAY. IT, WITHIN HERE WE'LL NEED TO CONSIDER THAT AND PLANT IT FOR TOLERANT SPECIES. I THINK THAT'S A NEW AD. SORRY. SO I, I'M SORRY. I THINK THAT'S A NEW AD. YEAH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE, WE NEED TO UPDATE THE PLAN TO, WHERE WOULD THOSE AREAS BE? FROM WHAT I JUST HEARD. RIGHT. SO ADJACENT TO THE SIDEWALK THERE. CORRECT. BETWEEN THE BUILDING. OKAY. BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND SIDEWALK. OKAY. ANY OTHER, UH, LANDSCAPE HARDSCAPE? OH, I HAD UM, ONE QUESTION REGARDING, I THINK IT'S, UH, STREET A OR, UH, THE MAIN ENTRANCE OFF OF OLD MILTON. YOU'VE ALIGNED TO ALL THE, UH, GREASE TRAPS, UH, UNDERNEATH PARALLEL PARKING SPACES. ARE THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS IN THE CITY RELATED TO THAT? FOR ACCESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? THEY COULD JUST POP 'EM IN. OKAY. WHICH MEANS YOU'RE ANTICIPATING RESTAURANTS IN THOSE SPACES. PLANNING FOR OBVIOUSLY. OKAY. YEAH, MY COMMENT ABOUT THE OTHER SPACES WAS FULL. THE FULL MONTY RESTAURANTS AND THEN THESE TWO BUILDINGS BECAUSE OF, ALRIGHT. UH, WHAT ELSE DO, WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE THIS MORNING THAT WE WANT THAT YOU WANT US TO LOOK YOUR PACKAGE? UM, SIGN SIGNAGE LOCATIONS. YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE A SIGNAGE CONCEPT TO SHOW YOU, BUT WE, WE OWE AT OUR AGREEMENT WITH Y'ALL, UM, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE OF SIGNAGE. AND SO WE, WE IDENTIFIED THESE LOCATIONS AND WE'D MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH IT. I THINK WE SHOULD SAVE THAT FOR WHEN YOU DO THE SIGNAGE. OKAY. BECAUSE WE'LL LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPE PARTICULAR AROUND IT ONCE THAT'S DESIGNED AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE ACTUAL WHAT THE WALL'S GONNA BE. THE, I THINK WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT PART. OKAY. I MEAN, IT'S A CO IT'S A CODE REQUIREMENT FOR THE SIZE, NOT REALLY FOR THIS BOARD ANYWAY. THAT'LL BE A STAFF THING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S, THAT'S APPROPRIATE. UNDERSTOOD. UM, AND LOCATION IS, IS REALLY YOUR CHOICE AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE SETBACKS AND STUFF. SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE MORE TO THE, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE BASE OF THE SIGN GONNA LOOK LIKE AND, AND WHAT'S THE SURROUNDING TO IT AND STUFF. SO I, I THINK WE CAN COME BACK WITH THAT. WAS THERE A SITE PACKAGE? UM, THERE, THERE WAS A, A PACKAGE REQUIRED. UM, BUT IT DIDN'T REALLY, IT'S NOT GONNA REALLY DRILL DOWN TO THAT. WE'LL HAVE TO SEE THAT WITH THE TENANTS. THAT'S, THAT'S WHEN, THAT'S WHEN WE WILL. THAT'S WHERE YOU GOT YEAH. WHEN WE GOTTA CRAMM EVERYTHING TOGETHER. CRITERIA. YEAH. YEP. , HE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO. FINE. ALRIGHT. ANY, ANYTHING ELSE IN OUR PACK THAT PACKETS THAT WE NEED TO UH, ADDRESS? I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK YOU HIT IT ALL. WELL, LET'S, LET ME DO A COUPLE, COUPLE THINGS HERE. FIRST OF ALL, NOW THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE, THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THIS APPLICATION? PUBLIC COMMENT? UH, THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS THERE, UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS PROJECT CAME BEFORE CITY EARLIER THIS YEAR AND THERE ARE SOME CITY COUNCIL CONDITIONS THAT ADHERE TO ARE BEING, BEING DONE. I WON'T READ ALL 44 COUNCIL CONDITIONS, BUT I'LL PICK OUT THE ONES THAT TALK OR DEAL WITH THE VIEW BOARD. ALRIGHT. FIRST [03:55:01] ONE THAT I SEE IS COUNCIL CONDITION NUMBER THREE. ARCHITECTURAL STYLE SHALL BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE SUBMITTED RENDERINGS PREPARED BY SK PLUS. ONE MADE IT 3 20 25 WITH FINAL APPROVAL BY DI ORBIN. AND I'M LOOKING FOR THE ONES THAT ARE PRIMARILY HIGHLIGHTED IN THE, UH, REGARDING THAT ONE. WE, I MEAN THESE THEY ARE, THEY ARE. 'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE SO GREAT. ALRIGHT. GOT CONFIRMATION THERE. UH, THIS IS COUNSEL CONDITION. UH, HANG ON, I GET THE RIGHT FOUR. COUNCIL CONDITION. FOUR E PARKING DECK, UH, MAXIMUM SIX LEVELS SUBSTANTIALLY AS DEPICTED ON THE SITE PLAN PREPARED BY KIMLEY HORN REVISED 3 20 25 PARKING DECKS VISIBLE FROM OLD MILTON PARKWAY AND BROOKSIDE PARKWAY SHALL BE TREATED AND WITH COMPARABLE MATERIALS AND FINISHES AS THE BUILDINGS THEY SERVE OR ART, SUCH AS A MURAL AS APPROVED BY STAFF. TREATING THE PARKING DECKS WITH EVERGREEN LANDSCAPING OF SUFFICIENT SIZE SHALL BE REQUIRED AS APPROVED BY STAFF DOABILITY OF PARKING DECK, ELEVATION, VISIBILITY AND LANDSCAPES CREW BY THE DR. I THINK WE'VE CONFIRMED THAT THE PARKING DECK, WE CAN'T SEE THAT. UM, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF TAKEN CARE OF ITSELF. OKAY. UH, CONDITION NUMBER 14. SITE LANDSCAPING SHALL BE SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR TO THE LANDSCAPE STRATEGY PREPARED BY CORE DATED 3 20 25 WITH FINAL APPROVAL BY DRB. DETAILED LANDSCAPE PLAN SHALL BE APPROVED PRIOR TO ISSUANCE I 15. STORE STOREFRONT STREETS SHALL INCLUDE FOUNDATION PLANTINGS AND OR PLANTED DECORATIVE POTS AS APPROVED BY DRB UM, 16 IN ORDER TO OBSCURE PARKING LOTS. SURFACE PARKING SHALL BE SCREENED FROM OLD MILTON PARKWAY AND BROOKSIDE PARKWAY. ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AND OR LANDSCAPING FINAL APPROVAL BY DRK NUMBER 20 AT GRAY. PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE CONNECTIONS SHALL BE PROVIDED THROUGHOUT THE SITE, INCLUDING BETWEEN BUILDINGS AND OPEN SPACE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS WITHIN WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE RAMPED AND SURFACE MATERIALS SHALL BE BRICK PAVERS, COBBLESTONES, ARCHITECTURALLY TREATED, CONCRETE APPROVED BY DR. PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES, STAIRS, ELEVATORS, AND ESCALATORS MAY ENCROACH OVER AND INTO PUBLIC SPACE, PROVIDED THAT THEY DO NOT IMPEDE PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION. BICYCLE FACILITIES SHALL BE PROVIDED THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. A BIKE SHARE STATION 23 2 MAIN ENTRANCES OFF OLD MILTON PARKWAY AND BROOKSIDE PARKWAY SHALL INCLUDE A MINIMUM 750 SQUARE FOOT GREEN SPACE FOR INCORPORATED IN ENTRANCE MONUMENT. DECORATIVE LANDSCAPING APPROVED BY D INSTALLATION SHALL BE REQUIRED PRIOR TO THE FIRST CO FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. ALMOST THERE. GETTING THERE. UH, 26 PARKING DECKS AND RETAINING WALLS SHALL HAVE ARCHITECTURAL FACADE TREATMENT OR BE HEAVILY LANDSCAPED THROUGH BY DRB RETAINING WALLS VISIBLE FROM DEVELOPED AREAS EXCEEDING 16 FEET IN HEIGHT SHALL BE TERRACE, EH, UM, HERE'S WHAT I'VE FOUND THAT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT DRB BUT HAS A LITTLE BIT TO DO WITH US. SEVEN DEVELOPERS SHALL PROVIDE BICYCLE RACKS, BENCHES, TRASH RECEPTACLES, DECORATIVE CROSSWALKS, PLANTERS, KIOSK, AND OTHER STREET FURNITURE WHERE APPROPRIATE THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. EXISTING MARTA BUS SHELTER ALONG BROOKSIDE PARKWAY SHALL BE REPLACED WITH A NEW BUS SHELTER. UH, HERE'S ANOTHER ONE, EXCUSE ME. 29. UH, BACKSIDE OF BUILDINGS OR BACK OF HOUSE FUNCTIONS SUCH AS LOADING TRASH UTILITIES AND SIMILAR SHALL BE SCREENED FROM THE PUBLIC OR PRIVATE RIGHT OF WAY OR BROOKSIDE PARK. PARAPET WALLS SHALL BE USED AS NEEDED TO SCREEN ROOFTOP MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT AND FUSE. ALRIGHT. 31. PRIOR TO LDP, THE APPLICANT SHALL SUBMIT FOR APPROVAL A DOCUMENT TO BE ENTITLED PORTMAN BROOKSIDE DESIGN STANDARDS DOCUMENTS SHALL INCLUDE ELEVATIONS OR ARCHITECTURAL THEMES OF BUILDINGS SPECIFICATIONS FOR STREET FURNITURE, INCLUDING BENCHES, CONTINUOUS TRASH RECEPTACLES, LIGHTING, FOCAL POINT FEATURES, BICYCLE RACKS, BUS SHELTERS, SIGNAGE, LANDSCAPING THEMES. ENTRANCE TREATMENT SHALL BE SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR TO THE SUBMITTED RENDERINGS. DESIGN STANDARDS WILL BE PRESENTED TO STAFF AND THE DRB [04:00:01] FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL. I'M ALMOST DONE PROMISE YOU. THREE, TWO PLANS FOR BUILDINGS LANDSCAPING AND SIGNING SHALL BE SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE DRB. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I JUST FELT LIKE I READ SOMETHING LONGER THAN A BOOK, BUT, UM, BECAUSE YOU DID. OKAY, SO, SO WE'RE, SO THAT WE COVERED EVERYTHING . SO WE'RE, WE'RE MISSING ALL THE SITE FURNITURE BIKE RACKS AND I THINK THAT CAN COME, SO THAT'LL COME SEPARATE AND BE EXCLUDED FROM THIS. AND THAT'S ALSO SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE DESIGN STANDARDS DOCUMENT, RIGHT. THAT WE STILL HAVE TO LOOK AT AT SOME POINT. SO WE SEE THAT DESIGN STANDARDS DOCUMENT, ALL THAT SHOULD BE IN THERE. DO WE KNOW WHERE THE BIKE STORAGE IS LOCATED? IS THAT IN THE DECK? THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S REALLY BEEN FULLY DETERMINED YET. AND AGAIN, THAT WAS A CONDITION THAT'LL BE APPROVED BY STAFF. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. LET ME TAKE A BIG PICTURE HERE. WHAT TYPES OF APPROVAL ARE YOU LOOKING FOR FROM US TODAY? YOU NEED AN LDP, CORRECT? YES SIR. SO YOU NEED, BEFORE THAT YOU NEED SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND LANDSCAPING. YES, SIR. BASED ON THE, OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU PRESENTED TO US THE ARCHITECTURAL OF THE ELEVATIONS OF MATERIALS, THE PORTMAN BROOKSIDE DESIGN STANDARDS. THAT DOCUMENT, HAS THAT BEEN DEVELOPED? IT HASN'T. IT'S BEEN A, UM, AN INTERESTING POINT OF CONVERSATION AMONG US INTERNALLY BECAUSE OF TRYING TO BALANCE OUT THE DESIRE TO GIVE, UM, THE RETAILER'S, UM, UM, ABILITY TO, TO INTERJECT THEIR PERSONALITIES INTO IT WITHOUT OVER DICTATING A RIGID SCHEME TO IT. OKAY. SO WITH THAT IT SAYS PRIOR TO LD THAT HAS TO BE DEVELOPED. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT SUBMITTING FOR THE LDP JUST YET THEN? NOT YET, BUT, UH, UH, WELL, CERTAINLY NOT YET. 'CAUSE WE NEED TO GET THAT TO YOU, UM, TO MEET YOUR EXPECTATIONS. SO, UM, I, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I THOUGHT WE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME ON THAT BECAUSE IT WAS RELATED TO THIS MATERIAL, RIGHT. LIKE, NOT NECESSARILY RELATED TO THE ARCHITECTURE, THE MULTIFAMILY OR, OR THE LAYOUT OF THE SITE. SO I THOUGHT WE'D HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO LIKE CATCH THAT BEFORE WE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE LIKE YOU WOULD EVER SEE A RETAIL LIKE PACKAGE IN FRONT OF YOU. UM, SO BECAUSE OF THAT LINK TO THE LDP, LIKE, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO GET IT UP, GET IT TO YOU NOW. ALTHOUGH IT, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO BE PRETTY, PRETTY BROAD I WOULD IMAGINE. I THINK THE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER TOO IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE A, YOU'LL HAVE A DESIGN GUIDE, BUT IF, IF A RETAILER WAS TO COME IN AND WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT MM-HMM . YOU HAVE, YOU'RE GONNA BE COMING BACK HERE WITH, YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO COME BACK HERE AND SAY, HEY, WE'D LIKE TO MAKE A CHANGE TO THE DESIGN GUIDE AND ADD THIS MATERIAL OR MAKE THIS CHANGE. RIGHT. I MEAN IT, WE CAN ALWAYS APPROVE CHANGES TO IT. SO THAT'S A, I MEAN THAT'S A, A CONDITION THAT COUNCIL PUT IN THERE AND I'LL HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT WITH KATHY. BUT IF IT'S THE, IF IT'S THE APPLICANT'S INTENT THAT EVERY RETAILER COMES BACK HERE, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED A DESIGN GUIDE. SO EXCLUDE THAT BECAUSE WE HAD A DESIGN GUIDE SAVE OUR AVALON, BUT THE TENANTS DIDN'T COME BACK. RIGHT. RIGHT. WE DON'T WANT THAT. SO WE DO NOT WANT TO BE LIKE AVALON IN THAT REGARD. LIKE, AND THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT THE DISCUSSION WAS. WE DIDN'T WANT TO WRITE A BOOK THAT SAID LIKE, IF YOU HAD A RESTAURANT, YOU HAD A RESTAURANT. LIKE THIS IS THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD PLAY IN THIS SPACE. LIKE A TYPICAL SHOPPING CENTER. LIKE WE INTENTIONALLY DID NOT WANT IT TO FEEL LIKE IT WAS, LIKE, IT WAS OVERLY THEMATICALLY DICTATE. UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE ROOM AND SPACE FOR CREATIVITY HERE. UM, AT SOME POINT, UM, AS MR. KRAMER POINTED OUT, LIKE IF WE DON'T, IF WE DON'T GET ENOUGH TENANTS AND DURING THE COURSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING, WE WOULD BRING YOU FULL ARCHITECTURAL EXAMPLE OF WHAT THIS WOULD BE LIKE. AND IT WOULD INCLUDE WITH IT ALL OF THOSE MATERIALS ASSOCIATED, WHICH, WHICH WOULD EFFECTIVELY DICTATE THE DESIGN STANDARD PROJECT. AT THAT POINT, WE WOULD HAVE TO PIVOT BACK TO A SITUATION WHERE LIKE, IF A TENANT WANTED TO DEVIATE, WE WOULD SHOW UP TO, TO REQUEST DEVIATIONS FROM THE DOCUMENT THAT WE WELL, I IMAGINE WHAT YOU COULD DO IN THE DESIGN GUIDE IS JUST STATE THAT RETAIL STORE FRONTAGE REQUIRES CITY APPROVAL, YOU KNOW, BY, AS OPPOSED TO GIVING A, A, A PRESCRIPTIVE SET OF MATERIALS THAT THEY COULD USE AND NOT COME BACK LIKE AVENUE. RIGHT. RIGHT. IT COULD MAKE A STATEMENT THAT SAYS THOSE RETAIL STOREFRONTS [04:05:01] HERE, HERE'S OUR WISH APPROVAL, SOME INSPIRATION, AND YOU GOTTA GO TO CITY FOR APPROVAL AND YOU GOTTA GO TO CITY. RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT THAT, OKAY, SO WE CAN KIND OF GET AROUND THAT. YEAH. STILL, BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO BRING IT BACK. THEY'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO SEE IT. WE STILL HAVE TO SEE IT. OR THEY'LL HAVE TO DEVELOP SOMETHING RIGHT? AS A, AS THE LDP TURNED INTO. NO, I, I DON'T, I DON'T, I THINK WE CAN GO PAST THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT'LL BE FOR STAFF TO DETERMINE WHETHER THEY HAVE OR HAVE IT. SO I, I THINK WE CAN GET PAST THE DESIGN STANDARD COMING FOR LDP THING. THAT'LL, THAT'LL KATHY AND I'LL DISCUSS THAT. OKAY. OKAY. UM, ANYTHING ELSE IN THE COUNCIL GAZETTE? I MEAN, I, I I SAY THAT THE SITE PLAN LOOKS GREAT. I THINK THERE'S SOME SMALL TWEAKS TO LITTLE, LIKE, UM, SITE FURNISHINGS IS IMPORTANT. IT SHOULDN'T HOLD THIS UP. NO, I AGREE. I AGREE. UM, THINKING ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE AND MATERIALS, MY ONLY CONCERN, MY CONCERN IS THE OLD MILTON PARKWAY ELEVATION AND I LIKE THE, LIKE THE WESTERN SIDE OF THAT ELEVATION. I THINK THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE ELEVATION JUST, IT NEEDS HELP COMING FROM ME. IT'S, IT, I KNOW YOU'RE, YOU WANT THAT INDUSTRIAL LOOK, IT JUST NEEDS A LITTLE BIT MORE VARIETY IN IT, A LITTLE BIT MORE CHARACTER IN IT. ALL THE DARK MATERIALS JUST MAKE IT, YOU DON'T EVEN, SOME WHAT HAPPENS THEN? YOU DON'T EVEN GET SHADOWS HAPPENING. SHADOWS ARE DARK TOO. OBVIOUSLY SHADOWS HELP BRING THAT, BUT I THINK SOME LIGHTER MATERIALS ARE JUST DOING SOMETHING TO FORGET UP. 'CAUSE THAT, THAT ELEVATION IS, IT'S LIKE 500 FEET LONG. UH, RICHARD ARE, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU ARE REFERRING TO THE SIDE THAT IS ALL THE ALL BROWN BRICK PART ONE IF GOING EAST ON OLD MILTON THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE YES. YOU'RE GOING EAST ON OLD MILTON. THE FIRST PART IS TOWN HOMES, I GUESS, RIGHT? THAT FIRST SECTION AND THE NEXT SECTION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL THAT'S THE WHERE THE, WHERE THE GRILL, WHERE THE GRILL, IT'S THE GARAGE WRAP SECTION. I JUST WANT FOR CLARIFICATION WHAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING. YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING, SORRY. OKAY. I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT ELEVATION. I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE SOME MORE CHARACTER TOO. I I THINK ANOTHER, OH, SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT. GREAT PROJECT. EVERYTHING JUST, THAT'S I THINK ANOTHER, UM, THING THAT I WOULD MENTION RELATED TO THAT ONE PIECE IS WHEN YOU HAVE A 500 FOOT LONG FACADE MM-HMM . IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO SEE A VERY DEEP LIKE NOTCH, ALMOST SEPARATING THOSE TWO PIECES TO KIND OF BREAK 'EM INTO TWO BUILDINGS. I THINK THAT WOULD HELP A BIT. UM, BUT, BUT MY CHALLENGE IS I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PRESENTED SOMETHING TO CITY COUNCIL. YEP. HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH DEVIATION ARE WE ALLOWED TO HAVE? WHAT CITY COUNCIL? NO, IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR, BUT MAYBE THEY CAN MAKE SOME SMALL TWEAKS TO IT JUST TO GIVE IT, JUST TO GIVE IT A LITTLE MORE CHARACTER. SEE WHERE, WHERE YOU HAVE, I, I KNOW IMPACTS YOUR UNITS, BUT WHERE YOU HAVE THE STORAGE UNITS RIGHT THERE, IF THAT WAS A CLEAN BREAK AND CUT BACK, BUT TO GET AN LDP, THEY DON'T NECESS WHOEVER PERHAPS A MOTION ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATION TODAY WE NEED SITE PLAN AND LANDSCAPE. OR YOU COULD EXCLUDE PART ONE OF THE NORTH ELEVATION. YOU'RE BASICALLY DEFERRING ELEVATION MATERIALS FOR THEM TO COME BACK AND ADDRESS IT AS IF THEY WERE, AND THAT IS THE OKAY. DOES, UH, LET'S, UH, WE'RE GONNA NEED SEVERAL MOTIONS HERE. SO IF SOMEONE, LEMME JUST ASK ON THE, ON THE SITE, ON THE SITE PLAN, I THINK THE ONE THING THAT'S IT'S UP IN THE AIR IS THE CONNECTION TO THE GREENWAY. HOW THAT'S GONNA CONNECT IS, IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD AND IS THAT'S SOMETHING STAFF CAN JUST WORK WITH THEM ON THAT, ON THAT GREENWAY CONNECTION. RIGHT. AND I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA GROUP PHOTOMETRICS IN WITH SITE PLAN SINCE PHOTOMETRICS LOOK PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, REGARDING D RRB 2 5 0 0 3 9 PORTMAN BROOKSIDE, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN AND PHOTOMETRICS AS SUBMITTED WITH THE CONDITION THAT APPLICANT WORKED WITH STAFF ON THE [04:10:01] SPECIFICS OF THE CONNECTION TO THE GREEN. IS THAT OKAY? OKAY. OKAY. A MOTION BY MR. SWING. A SECOND BY MR. OWENS. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOTION BEING NONE? I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. SEVEN. ALL OPPOSED, NO OPPOSITION. MOTION PASSES. SEVEN ZERO. THAT'S SITE PLAN AND PHOTOMETRICS MR. CHAIRMAN, REGARDING DRB UH, 2 5 0 0 3 9 PORTMAN BROOKSIDE LANDSCAPE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED TODAY WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. THAT LANDSCAPE MATERIAL IS ADDED TO SCREEN THE POND FROM OLD MILTON PARKWAY TO THE NORTH AND EAST SIDE OF THE POND WALL TO RECONSIDER THE RED BUD TREES ALONG OLD MILTON PARKWAY UNDER THE EXISTING CANOPY. AND CONSIDER A DIFFERENT UNDERSTORY TREE TO TOLERATE THE SHADE IN THAT AREA ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING. UM, TO ADD LANDSCAPE ALONG BROOK SIDE TO BE MORE LAYERED ALONG THE LANDSCAPE STRIP AND LESS BLOCKY. ALSO TO PROVIDE SCREENING TO THE FIRE LANE THROUGH THE SITE IN THAT VIEW CORRIDOR THAT VIEW SHED FROM BROOKSIDE PARKWAY. UH, TO CONSIDER CHANGING THE GREEN GIANT ARBOR TO AN EVERGREEN SHRUB ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF C FOUR AND C FIVE. UM, TO AVOID GEOGRID IMPACTS AND POTENTIAL WALL FAILURE IN THE FUTURE, UM, TO ADJUST THE LANDSCAPE PLAN TO ACCOMMODATE BIOSWALES, UM, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN DESIGNED ON SITE. AND THEN LASTLY, AT THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, BUILDING IN THE POOL AREA, UM, REEVALUATE THE AREA AVAILABLE FOR PLANTING BETWEEN THE WALLS AND SIDEWALK FOR THE TREE PLANTINGS IN THAT AREA. AND A MOTION SECOND. ALRIGHT, A MOTION BY MR. MS. SPRAYBERRY AND, UH, SECOND BY MR. OWENS. COMMENTS, QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOTION? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. UM, YOU SAID TO ADD GREENING PLANTING ON THE FIRE? THE, ON BROOKSIDE PARKWAY. OH, IT'S ON BROOKSIDE PARKWAY. OKAY. YEAH, BUT THERE'S THAT VIEW CORRIDOR ALL THE WAY THROUGH DOWN TO THE, UM, FIRE LANE THERE. OKAY, THANK YOU. IN THE PARKING. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THERE BE NONE. I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 4, 5, 7. ALL OPPOSED NO OPPOSITION. MOTION PASSES. SEVEN. OKAY. UM, MIKE, YOU'LL JUST, JUST PULL UP THAT OLD MILTON PARKWAY ELEVATION FOR THE ELEVATION. YEAH. THE, THE ONE THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP. YOU WANT THE, THE 2D ELEVATION 5, 15, 15? YES. YEAH, SO MY REFERENCE EARLIER WAS JUST AGAIN, THIS IS THE OLD MILTON PARKWAY. THIS WHAT EVERYBODY'S GONNA SEE COMING. THEY GOING LOVE THE LOWER ELEVATION, THE VARIETY, THE KIT, JUST GET TO THE PART ONE UP ON THE, ANOTHER CEMENTED THERE. VERY REPETITIVE. FEEL LIKE THERE'S A WAY TO CHARACTER IN WELL WITHOUT, WITHOUT HAVING TO SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGE THE HEIGHT, THE WIDTH OR ANYTHING. LOOK ROLL DIFFERENT ANYWAY. IF IT'S, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WANT, WE'LL GET IT DONE. IS IT, CAN YOU CONTINUE THE, A SIMILAR TREATMENT THAT YOU HAVE ON THE, ON THE LOWER ELEVATION? JUST CAN, CAN, AND I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE DESIGNED DIFFERENTLY INTERNALLY, SO PROBABLY NOT THAT SIMPLE, BUT CONTINUE THAT SAME SIMILAR TREATMENT FURTHER SO YOU HAVE LESS OF THE, OF THE, UH, IN INDUSTRIAL LOOKING SECTION AND MORE OF THE RESIDENTIAL LOOKING SECTION. I, I KIND OF FEEL DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THAT. I FEEL LIKE IF YOU JUST CONTINUE IT AND TRUCK IT ALL THE WAY DOWN, IT'S JUST GONNA BE ONE GIANT BUILDING. [04:15:01] I LIKE THE FACT THAT IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT I AGREE WITH RICHARD IN THAT, UM, IT'S THE ARTICULATION OF IT JUST SEEMS LIKE ONE KIND OF MONOLITHIC GIANT BLOCK AND MAYBE, AND I LOOK AT THIS, MAYBE IT'S JUST ONE OF, ONE OF THE, THE LARGER BAYS BECOMES THAT, THAT MAY BE BETWEEN THE, THE ALCOVES OR THE INDENTS. MAYBE. MAYBE THAT'S A DIFFERENT TREATMENT FOR THAT AND BREAKS IT UP ENOUGH THAT IT GIVES US SOME CARE. DO YOU THINK THE LANDSCAPING WOULDN'T HELP WITH THAT OR THE TREES? IT ALWAYS, WELL IT DOESN'T, BUT IT'S TOO BIG. BUT TO JUST SOLELY RELY ON THAT, IN MY OPINION, I MEAN, EVERYWHERE ELSE, I THINK YOU'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB. I WOULD SAY IF IT'S Y'ALLS DESIRE TO GET IT DONE, LIKE THE BEST AS OPPOSED TO BEING HERE AND, AND COMMITTING TO SOME SOLUTION THAT, THAT LIKE WE'RE COMING UP WITH ON THE FLY. LIKE WE, WE MAY LOOK AT 30 DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF HOW WE MIGHT WANT TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT I'D BE. UM, I'D BE A PROPONENT OF APPROVING THE EXTERIOR MATERIALS AND DESIGN AND DEFERRING THE NORTH ELEVATION AND HAVE YOU GUYS RETURN AND WORK WITH STAFF TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. I, I, I CAN'T THINK OF EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS RIGHT HERE TO MM-HMM . CREATE A, A MOTION THAT WOULD REDESIGN IT. IT IT, AND I'M NOT, BUT I'M NOT SURE IT ACCOMPLISHES ANYTHING TO APPROVE EVERYTHING ELSE. WELL IT ACCOMPLISHES THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND SPEND TWO HOURS TO GO THROUGH EVERY ELEVATION AGAIN. OH NO, I GET THAT. WE WOULDN'T WANT THAT ANYWAY. RIGHT. THIS IS THE FOCUS I HAVE. YEAH. BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A OVERALL, IT'S A GREAT DEVELOPMENT, A GREAT DESIGN ACROSS THE BOARD. AND IF THIS IS JUST ONE SMALL PIECE TO COME BACK FOR THE, THE OTHER ISSUE IS OF COURSE, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO REALLY SEE SOMETHING ON THE VENT DESIGN BECAUSE IT REPLACED SUCH A PROMINENT REPETITIVE YEAH. I THINK, I THINK NAIL TRY TO NAIL THAT DOWN WITH THIS NOT ONLY DESIGN BUT PLACEMENT OF THE, OF THOSE THINGS. THAT'S RIGHT. ARE THEY DEFINITELY GONNA BE, IS THIS WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY, THEY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD THOUGHT BUT, AND MAYBE ADD A 3D UM, SLIDE OF THAT PORTION. THINK THREE D'S. THE SLIDES WE HAVE ARE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, JUST OF THAT ONE PORTION MIGHT HELP US. YEAH. WHERE IT'S NOT AS FLAT. YEAH. SEE MORE OF THE ARTICULATION. WELL, NO, I MEAN THE SLIDE SO WE CAN SEE IT. OH YEAH, YEAH. THEN A PERSPECTIVE OR RENDER, RIGHT? YES. SO JUST A CONDITION THAT THEY BRING BACK THIS WELL, I THINK YEAH, THIS FACADE. I MEAN YOU LOOK AT THE CHARACTER THAT THESE YEAH. YEAH. BRANDON, THAT'S THE BEST, THAT'S THE BEST ONE WE HAVE, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. I TRIED TO FIND ONE . I CATCH A LITTLE BIT OF IT HERE, BUT LIKE YEAH, IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE THAT ONE AND THEN YOU HAVE THE OTHER SIDE BUT MAYBE SHOWS THE, THAT'S NOT THE SAME. IT'S NOT, BUT IT'S THE SAME. YEAH. SO THE BEST WE COULD, WE DON'T HAVE ONE SPECIFICALLY OF THAT PARTICULAR ENTIRE BUILDING FACADE, BUT THAT IS THE GENERAL, THAT, THAT IS THE LANGUAGE OF THAT FACADE RIGHT THERE. IT'S JUST THIS PARTICULAR PICTURE IS FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE. NO, CORRECT. BUT YOU'VE GOT THREE OR FOUR OF THOSE MARCHING DOWN THE, SO 250 FEET WORTH. ALRIGHT, I WANT A MOTION. UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, REGARDING DRB 25 0 0 3 9 PORTMAN BROOKSIDE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE EXTERIOR ELEVATIONS AND MATERIALS AS SUBMITTED WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION. UM, THE APPLICANT WILL RETURN TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD TO RESUBMIT THE NORTH ELEVATION, UM, IN ITS ENTIRETY, BUT SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON PART ONE OF THE NORTH ELEVATION. UM, AND WILL ALSO PROVIDE A THREE DIMENSIONAL RENDERING OF THE ELEVATION IN ITS ENTIRETY. UM, AND THE APPLICANT WILL ALSO RETURN TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD TO PRESENT A DESIGN FOR THE MULTIFAMILY UNIT DRYER AND BATHROOM VENTS WITH A DESIGN SOLUTION THAT DOESN'T ADVERSELY IMPACT THE FACADE ARCHITECTURE AND OF MOTION. SECOND. OKAY. [04:20:01] MOTION BY MS. ROWAN. SECOND BY MS. PALMER. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOTION? UM, DO WE, DO WE WANNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT BUILDING, LIGHTING, STAFF APPROVAL? I WANNA MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, UM, THAT BUILDING LIGHTING BE SUBMITTED TO STAFF FOR FINAL APPROVAL. I ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. OKAY, MS. HOMER, DO YOU I ACCEPT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. FRIENDLY AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. SWING HAS BEEN ACCEPTED BY BOTH MR. ROWAN AND MS. PALMER. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THERE BEING NONE? I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. ALL OPPOSED NO OPPOSITION. MOTION PASSES. SAYS ALRIGHT. THANKS ALL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS AFTERNOON. APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIME. APPRECIATE IT. GREAT PROJECT. THANK YOU. ALL DONE. LOTS. GLAD YOU CAME PREPARED. OKAY. UM, OUR NEXT, LET'S SEE, I KNOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE, TAKE SOME SORT OF A LUNCH RECESS, BUT I'D LIKE TO KEEP GOING. IS THAT, UH, WELL IF YOU HAVE YEAH, LET'S, OKAY. OKAY. WE GET THROUGH THIS. OKAY. OUR, UM, [3. DRB250040     LGE-US     4300 North Point Pkwy review new construction] OUR NEXT APPLICANT IS LG DASH US. COME ON. HEY. OH, UH, THEY DID, LET'S SEE, DID THEY GO DOWN TO THE END DOWN THERE? OKAY. THE MATERIAL. OH NO. THERE, THEY'RE ON THE, OKAY. HEY. HEY. HOW YOU GUYS COME ON THAT GAVEL? LET'S GOING CALL IT RECESS. NO, COME TO THE GAVEL. I TOLD THEM, I TOLD HIM. COME ON DOWN. I LOST OFF. SORRY. OH GOOD. ALRIGHT. UM, YOU, YOU JUST DID YOUR, YOU JUST RECUSED YOURSELF. WE'RE STILL MEETING. SO YOU'RE RECUSED . HAVE A GREAT, HAVE A GREAT DAY. HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK. OKAY. SEE YOU. ALL RIGHT. DON'T BE, DON'T BE A STRANGER. . OKAY. OKAY. L-G-E-U-S IS 1225. SORRY. TOOK A LONG TIME. . I'M ALL GOOD. GOOD. SEE YOU. A LOT OF MISTAKES. . YEAH. THAT'S WHY WE, YES, SHE JUST DID. SHE HAD TO LEAVE, BUT SHE'S, SHE'S, YES. NO, WE BETTER NOT BE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. GO BRETT. JUST ORDER, ORDER IN THE COURT. OKAY. WE HAVE, UH, WAY OUT THERE. ALRIGHT. WE HAVE LG DASH US. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE TODAY. IF YOU'LL MAKE SURE YOU, UH, THE GREEN LIGHT SHOULD BE ON THERE. IS A THERE YOU GO. TESTING. TESTING. ALRIGHT, GREAT. ALRIGHT, IF YOU'LL, UH, MAKE SURE YOU [04:25:01] SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE. INTRODUCE YOURSELF THIS AFTERNOON. GREAT. GIVE US A REVIEW OF WHAT'S, WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR PACKET TODAY, PLEASE. DEFINITELY. OKAY. WELL I'M JOEY GOODALL, UM, CIVIL ENGINEER WITH GRESHAM SMITH. CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? I'M SORRY. YEAH. I'M JOEY GOODALL, UH, CIVIL ENGINEER WITH GRESHAM SMITH. MORNING. GOOD MORNING. AFTERNOON, I THINK . UM, AND THE SCREEN'S UP THERE. GREAT. UM, SO I'M, UH, WORKING WITH THE REST OF OUR MULTIDISCIPLINARY GRESHAM SMITH TEAM FOR OUR CLIENT LGES. UM, WE'LL BE HA HEARING FROM MULTIPLE MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM. I'M REPRESENTING THE SITE DESIGN. WE ALSO HAVE JENNY LYNN RUDDER, UH, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, UH, SPEAKING TO LANDSCAPE ELEMENTS. AND THEN, UH, JUNIOR WU SAY THAT WE, UM, WHO'S THE ARCHITECT, UH, WHO WILL BE SPEAKING TO THE BUILDING FACADE AND, AND BUILDING DESIGN ELEMENTS. UM, WANTED TO START, UM, JUST BECAUSE, UH, LG IS ALREADY A MEMBER OF THE ALPHARETTA COMMUNITY, THIS IS AN EXISTING OFFICE DEVELOPMENT WITH, UM, HEARING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS NEW BUILDING ON THEIR EXISTING OFFICE DEVELOPMENT. UM, SO I WANTED TO INTRODUCE, UM, ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES FROM, UM, LG TO JUST GIVE A QUICK OVER OF THE PROJECT SCOPE. GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, MY NAME IS HE CHOI. I WORK FOR THE LG ELECTRONIC USA AND I'LL JUST GIVE YOU GUYS THE BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT AND THE SCOPE ITSELF. UM, AS SOME OF YOU GUYS MIGHT KNOW, LG, UM, ACTUALLY BEEN IN ALPHA SINCE 2006. THAT'S WAY BEFORE I STARTED WORKING FOR LG BY THE WAY. BUT THIS, UH, R AND D CHAMBER PROJECT IS PRETTY MUCH WE ARE PLANNING TO BUILD A, OUR, UM, OUR HVAC CHAIN, UH, TESTING CHAMBER, AS WELL AS, UH, OUR R AND D DEPARTMENT OFFICE RIGHT NEXT TO OUR CURRENT OFFICE RIGHT NOW. AND IT'S NOT JUST TO DRIVE UP THE SALES OR ANYTHING, UM, EVEN THOUGH IT WILL PROBABLY DRIVE UP THE SALE, BUT WE ACTUALLY GET TO TEST OUR PRODUCT WITHIN UNITED STATES WITH LG, UM, IN THE UNITED STATES, WHICH IS OUR NORTH AMERICA HEADQUARTERS LOCATED. AND WE GET TO ACTUALLY TEST THE PRODUCT CURRENTLY THAT WE ARE DEVELOPING AS WELL AS, UM, HAVE A DIRECTION OF THE TESTING THAT FITS THE NORTH AMERICAN MARKET ITSELF. SO IT'S MAINLY FOCUSING ON THE INNOVATION ITSELF AND THROUGH THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY ABLE TO BRING THE WORKFORCE. UM, WE, I MEAN A LOT OF PEOPLE CALL IT A HIGH TECH WORKFORCE, BUT I JUST LIKE TO CALL IT AN ENGINEER BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE ARE CURRENTLY ALREADY HIRING ENGINEERS THAT WILL BE ACTUALLY WORKING IN THE CHAMBER AS WELL AS THE R AND D OFFICE. AND WE ARE JUST GIVE YOU JUST A BRIEF NUMBER WISE, WE ARE PLANNING TO HIRE 50 MEMBERS TOTAL. CURRENTLY WE HAVE ABOUT 25 MEMBERS THAT WE ALREADY HIRE, INCLUDING MYSELF. AND WE ARE PLANNING TO HIRE A NUMBER UP TO 35, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, NEXT YEAR. AND AFTER CHAMBER GET FINISHED, CONTINUE TO BUILD ON MORE TO THAT. SO TWO MAIN THINGS THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON WILL BE ACTUAL INNOVATION AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PRODUCT BY TESTING IN THE CHAMBER AS WELL AS THE WORKFORCE THAT WILL BE BRINGING IN HIGH TECH WORKFORCE ENGINEERS THAT WILL BE COMING INTO ALPHARETTA. THOSE ARE THE MAIN FOCUS THAT WILL BE GOING ON. AND THEN SOME OF THE DETAIL OF THE BUILDING ITSELF AS WELL AS THE, WHAT'S GONNA BE LIKE, I'LL BE HUNTING OVER TO OUR ARCHITECT AS WELL AS AN ENGINEER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU HIATE. UM, SO LIKE I SAID, I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER OF RECORD, UM, AND HELPED GUIDE THE LAYOUT OF THE NEW BUILDING ON THE EXISTING SITE. UM, WHAT I HAVE RIGHT HERE IS A COLORIZED RENDERING, WHICH IS ALSO ON ONE OF THE DISPLAY BOARDS IN FRONT OF YOU. UM, SINCE IT IS AN EXISTING FACILITY, I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT ON WHAT PARTS OF THE SITE ARE, UM, PROPOSED TO BE MODIFIED. IT'S AN EXISTING, UM, JUST BELOW 10 ACRE SITE, UM, LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF NORTH POINT PARKWAY AND ROYAL DRIVE. AS WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE WORKSHOP SESSION. UM, ON THE COLORIZED RENDERING, THE LIGHTER COLORED GRAY IS EXISTING PAVEMENT OR PAID SERVICES THAT WOULD NOT BE MODIFIED. AND THEN THE DARKER COLORED GRAY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE IMAGE ARE, UM, MODIFIED OR NEW PAVED SURFACES. THE EXISTING OFFICE THREE STORY OFFICE BUILDING IS IN THE CENTER OF THE SITE. AND THEN THE PROPOSED, UM, TWO STORY, UM, OFFICE AND RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT BUILDING IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE. UM, AND IF I ADVANCE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I WANTED TO GO THROUGH, UM, SOME EXISTING SITE, UM, IMAGERY JUST TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT OF WHAT PARTS OF THE SITE ARE, UM, BEING CHANGED OR STAYING THE SAME. UM, SO THIS IS A SNIPPET OF THE, UM, TOPOGRAPHY SURVEY. UM, I'M GONNA WALK THROUGH JUST A, A STREET VIEW IMAGE ON NORTH POINT PARKWAY AND [04:30:01] THEN ROYAL DRIVE TO THE SOUTH. UM, NORTH POINT PARKWAY IS A PUBLIC ROAD. UM, ROYAL DRIVE IS A PRIVATE ROAD MAINTAINED BY A ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNER. UM, THE RED IMA UH, RED NUMBERS ARE, UM, LOCATIONS OF SITE PHOTOS THAT I'LL WALK THROUGH STARTING AT THE CENTER OF THE SITE WHERE THERE IS THAT EXISTING TRAFFIC CIRCLE IN FRONT OF THE, UM, OFFICE BUILDING. AND THEN THOSE OF THE PHOTOS ARE LOOKING ON THAT EAST SIDE OF THE SITE WHERE THE, UM, PROPOSED BUILDING IS, UM, TO BE LOCATED. AND THEN ALSO WANTING TO LOOK AT NUMBER SEVEN, NUMBER SIX AND NUMBER SEVEN, WHERE THERE'S AN EXISTING SERVICE AREA FOR THAT COMMERCIAL BU OR OFFICE BUILDING. AND SOME OF THOSE FEATURES WILL NEED TO BE, UM, RELOCATED OVER TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE, SUCH AS THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE AT PHOTO NUMBER EIGHT. UM, SO AS WE, AS WAS TOUCHED ON DURING THE WORKSHOP PERIOD, UM, NORTH POINT PARKWAY IS AT A, UM, LOWER ELEVATION THAN MOST OF ROYAL DRIVE. SO WHEN YOU'RE STANDING AT THIS INTERSECTION OR DRIVING PAST THE INTERSECTION AT ROYAL DRIVE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY AT 25 FEET LOWER THAN WHEN YOU'RE AT THIS, UM, SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY ON ROYAL DRIVE. SO THE, UM, ELEVATION AT THAT INTERSECTION IS ABOUT LEVEL WITH THE BUILDING FINISH FLOOR. AND THEN AS YOU GO NORTH, ON NORTH POINT PARKWAY, YOU'LL BE CROSSING OVER, UM, A TRIBUTARY OF BIG CREEK, WHICH, UM, IS REPRESENTED BY THAT DARK GRAY FLOOD PLAN ON A NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE THAT'S NOT BEING MODIFIED. UM, AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STREET VIEW, THIS IS A STREET VIEW FROM WINTERTIME. SO YOU DO, UM, SEE THROUGH, UM, SOME OF THE TREES THAT, THAT ARE, DO PROVIDE A AN EXISTING BUFFER THAT'S NOT TO BE MODIFIED. UM, BUT IT'S NOT A FULL, YOU CAN'T SEE FULLY INTO THE SITE JUST FOR REFERENCE. EVEN, EVEN AT WINTERTIME, THE PROPOSED BUILDING WOULD BE BEHIND THIS EXISTING BUILDING, UM, FROM VISIBLE FROM NORTH POINT PARKWAY. THE EXISTING MONUMENT SIGNAGE IS NOT TO BE MODIFIED. UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT ROYAL DRIVE AT THAT SOUTHERN DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE WITH THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE, AGAIN TAKEN IN WINTERTIME, UM, THE PROPOSED BUILDING, WHICH IS, UM, BEST REPRESENTED IT OR, OR, UM, ANALOGOUS TO THE RENDERING, UM, THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU AS WELL OF WHERE THAT PROPOSED BUILDING WOULD BE IN RELATION TO THE EXISTING. UM, WITH EXISTING SITE PHOTOS. JUST MOVING INTO THE SITE WITH THAT TRAFFIC CIRCLE, THIS IS REALLY PROBABLY THE MOST REPRESENTATIVE VIEW OF WHERE THAT EXISTING PARKING FIELD IS EAST OF THE, OF THE EXISTING BUILDING. UM, THAT WOULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, BE IMPACTED THE MOST BY THIS NEW BUILDING. UM, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT PRETTY STEEP SLOPE IS COMING DOWN FROM ROYAL DRIVE. THERE'S AN EXISTING MODULAR BLOCK RETAINING WALL THAT WOULD NOT BE MODIFIED, UM, WITH THIS NEW SCOPE. UM, THIS IS JUST SOME MORE PHOTOS IN THAT PARKING FIELD ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING BUILDING THAT WOULD BE MODIFIED. UM, THIS IS A SECOND RETAINING WALL FURTHER TO THE NORTHEAST PART OF THE EXISTING, UM, UH, PARKING LOT THAT WOULD BE TAKEN OUT, UM, BY THE NEW BUILDING. AND THEN THIS EXISTING HVAC EQUIPMENT THAT'S EAST OF THE EXISTING BUILDING WOULD BE REMOVED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT SCOPE. UM, AND THEN JUST WHAT I WAS MENTIONING ABOUT, UM, UH, THE TRASH, EXISTING TRASH ENCLOSURE THAT'S LOCATED TO THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF THE, UM, PARKING LOT, IT WOULD NEED TO BE, UM, REMOVED AND THEN RELOCATED IN A, IN A NEW LOCATION WEST OF THE EXISTING BUILDING. UM, AND WOULD, UH, FOLLOW THE, YOU KNOW, DESIGN REVIEW BOARD REGULATIONS LIKE CITY REGULATIONS FOR BEING A MASONRY WALL WITH, UH, SAW THAT MATCHES THE BUILDING AND HAS AN OPAQUE, OPAQUE, UM, METAL GATE SYSTEM. BUT IT WOULD BE A SIMILAR SCALE. UM, AND THEN THIS IS JUST A PANORAMIC VIEW AT THAT, UM, EXISTING PARKING LOT THAT WOULD BE THE LOCUS OF THE, UM, REDEVELOPMENT EFFORT. UM, SO IF I MOVE FORWARD TO THE, UM, PROPOSED SITE PLAN, UM, THIS SHOWS THE PROPOSED BUILDING, UM, PERPENDICULAR TO THE EXISTING BUILDING. UM, WE'VE REVIEWED THIS LAYOUT WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL AS WELL, AND UM, THIS CENTRAL DRIVE BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS WOULD PROVIDE FIRE ACCESS TO BOTH BUILDINGS AS WELL AS, UM, SERVICE FOR BOTH BUILDINGS. THERE IS A PROPOSED ROLL UP GARAGE DOOR ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS, UM, PROPOSED FACILITY THAT ALLOWS FOR EQUIPMENT BEING MOVED IN AND OUT. UM, UH, LIKE THE LGE REPRESENTATIVE SAID THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, TESTING OF HVAC EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD HAPPEN AT THIS FACILITY. UM, ANY OF THE PAD MOUNTED HVAC CONDENSING UNITS ARE LOCATED ON THE EAST AND NORTH SIDE OF THE NEW FACILITY, SO THEY WOULD BE [04:35:01] BY THE BUILDING. UM, WITH NESTLING THIS PROPOSED BUILDING INTO THE EXISTING SITE, UM, WE HAVE REDUCED THE IMPERVIOUS OR PAVED SURFACES ACROSS THE SITE. UM, SO THERE IS NOT A, A TRIGGER OF A ADDITIONAL STORM STORMWATER DETENTION REQUIREMENTS. UM, STORMWATER LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS LIKE RUNOFF REDUCTION ARE TO BE PROVIDED FOR THE REDEVELOPED PORTIONS OF THE SITE, WHICH IS ABOUT 1.3 ACRES. AND THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED THROUGH BIORETENTION. UH, A COMBINATION OF BIORETENTION PONDS AND, UM, PERMEABLE PAVERS LOCATED, UM, SOUTHWEST OF THE NEW BUILDING. AND THEN ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE THAT PROVIDED THE BEST OPPORTUNITY. SO YOU'VE RUN OFF FROM EXISTING PAID SURFACE. UM, WE'RE, UH, REDUCING THE OVERALL PARKING ON THE SITE. UM, BUT LIKE, UM, BRETT MENTIONED DURING THE WORKSHOP PERIOD WE'RE, UM, COLLABORATING WITH CITY STAFF AND THE, AND THE OWNER TO, UM, ACQUIRE A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT WITH A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER. UM, WE ARE MAINTAINING PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS, UM, PROVIDING THE, UH, MINIMUM ACCESSIBLE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE. SO WE WOULDN'T NEED TO UTILIZE OFFSITE PARKING FOR THAT. UM, AND THEN, UH, WE ARE PROVIDING, UM, TURNAROUND SPACE FOR ANY SERVICE VEHICLES TO DO A THREE POINT TURN BACK INTO THIS WIDER DRIVEWAY HERE. UM, HAVE CHECKED THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE THAT'LL PROVIDE SUFFICIENT TURNING RADIUS FOR A ANTICIPATED VEHICLES. UM, AND THEN THE, UH, DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE, UM, RELOCATION, UM, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE IS ROTATED TO, UM, ALLOW FOR A DUMPSTER PICKUP AND, UM, ADEQUATE TURNING MOVEMENTS WHILE PROVIDING SOME LANDSCAPE SCREENING OF THAT AS WELL. UM, AND THEN THERE IS SOME, JUST BY NATURE OF IT BEING AN R AND D FACILITY, THERE'S A HIGHER ELECTRICAL DEMAND. WE DO HAVE, UM, SOME NEW TRANSFORMERS BEING LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING AS WELL AS WITH A GENERATOR FOR EMERGENCY POWER. UM, THAT WOULD HAVE LANDSCAPES TOUCHED ON. UM, UH, AND THEN THERE IS WITH LOCATING THE BUILDING WITHIN THE EXISTING PAID SURFACES AS MUCH AS WE COULD, UM, THIS EXISTING SLOPE DOES NEED TO BE MODIFIED, UM, TO PROVIDE ACCESS AROUND THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING. SO THERE IS A PROPOSED ABOUT SEVEN FOOT TALL MODULAR BLOCK RETAINING WALL, UM, TO MATCH, TO COMPLEMENT THE EXISTING WALLS AND BUILDING FACADE. UM, SO I DO HAVE AN EXAMPLE IMAGE HERE OF A TYPE OF MODULAR BLOCK WALL THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED AS WELL AS, UM, PERVIOUS PAVER BLOCKS THAT WOULD COMPLIMENT THE COLOR OF THE GRAY ASPHALT JUST BECAUSE THE PERVIOUS PAVERS THAT WOULD BE RETROFITTED WOULD QUITE DISTANT FROM THE BUILDING. SO TO MATCH THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING DIDN'T, UM, MAKE AS MUCH SENSE FOR THAT. UM, AND THEN WE DO HAVE FURNISHINGS LOCATED AT THE NEW BUILDING ENTRANCE SUCH AS A BENCH TRASH CAN AND BIKE RACK. UH, JUST MATCHING SOME OF THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA STANDARDS AS WELL. FAIRLY LOW PROFILE SINCE IT'S NOT A, THE FOCAL POINT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD ON THE SITE PLAN, UNLESS YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS. NO. ANY, WELL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE LIKE, UH, ANY ISSUES WITH ROCK? WE GOT A ROCK OUTCROPPING ON THAT, THAT BANK BACK THERE, SO YOU YEAH, SO WE HAVE HAD GEOTECHNICAL INVESTIGATION, UM, BORINGS DIDN'T IDENTIFY ROCK. UM, WE ACTUALLY, THAT WOULD IMPACT THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT. UM, WE ACTUALLY ARE HAVING TO PROP UP THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING AND ADD FILL. OKAY. BUT ARE LOCATING THE BUILDING SO IT'S NOT IMPACTING THE EXISTING SLOPE DOWN TO THE FLOODPLAIN. GOT. ALRIGHT. SO NOT ANTICIPATING ROCK ISSUES WITH, WITH THE EXCAVATION, UM, LIMITS THAT ARE PROPOSED, UM, FROM A SITE LIGHTING STANDPOINT. UM, JUST TO COMPLIMENT THE EXISTING, UM, PARKING LOT LIGHTING, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME PROPOSED COBRA HEADLIGHTS THAT YOU SEE ON THE BOTTOM, UM, IMAGE HERE THAT ARE SPACED, UM, TO AVOID EXISTING AND PROPOSED TREES. UM, AND THEN VIRGINIA WILL TOUCH ON IT WITH THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS, BUT THERE ARE BUILDING MOUNTED LIGHTS, UM, THAT ARE TURNED DOWN. AND THEN, UM, THE TOP IMAGE, THE, UH, CORNER LIGHTING ON BUILDING THAT JU CAN TOUCH ON MORE WITH THE ARC, UH, WITH THE FACADE AND ELEVATION. OKAY. ONE THING THAT STOOD OUT TO ME ON THE SITE PLAN IS DUMPSTERS FACING NORTH POINT PARKWAY, AND I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO SEE IN THE LANDSCAPING HOW YOU'RE ABLE TO SCREEN THAT. IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF SCREENING OPPORTUNITY THERE WITH [04:40:01] THE PARKING LOT AND EVERYTHING. MM-HMM . GOOD POINT. UM, I WILL MENTION WITH THE, UH, WEST SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT MODIFICATIONS, UM, LOCATING, UH, AREA THAT WE COULD PROVIDE STORMWATER QUALITY TREATMENT, RUNOFF REDUCTION, UM, THIS CENTRAL PART OF THIS EXISTING, UM, WESTERN PARKING BAY WAS AN IDEAL LOCATION. SO ANY MODIFICATION. WE DID ALSO WANT TO LOCATE IT TO AVOID TAKING OUT ANY SPECIMEN TREES AS WELL AS, UM, UTILIZING SOIL THAT HAS SUFFICIENT INFILTRATION RATE. UM, SO AS JENNY LYNN WILL TOUCH ON ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THAT, UM, AREA, WE'LL HAVE LANDSCAPING REPLACED AND THEN THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING ALONG NORTH POINT PARKWAY IS NOT TO BE MODIFIED AND IT'S A PRETTY DENSE, UM, LANDSCAPE BUFFER CURRENTLY. YEAH, I I THINK SIMILARLY, YOU KNOW, YOUR GENERATOR, YOUR TRANSFORMERS NOW I REALIZE IT'S SORT OF DOWN THE HILL, RIGHT. SO I'LL HAVE TO SEE HOW THAT'S, HOW THAT'S, UM, SCREENED FROM ROYAL DRIVE. MM-HMM . YEAH. UM, DO YOU MIND IF WE CIRCLE BACK ON THAT WITH JENNY LYNN'S PRESENTATION? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. JUST, JUST WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN, I WANTED TO POINT YEAH, GOOD POINT. AND WE'D ALSO HAVE A SITE LINE STUDY THAT HELPS DEPICT, UM, THE VIEW SHED FROM ROYAL DRIVE WHERE YOU'RE AT THE HIGHEST POINT LOOKING DOWN INTO THE, INTO THAT AREA TOO. THAT CAN HELP ILLUSTRATE THAT. OKAY. OKAY. ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS LIKE, WHILE WE'RE ON THE SITE? I GUESS LET'S GO INTO LANDSCAPING. YEAH. STAY ON THE KINDA THE BIG PICTURE. EXACTLY. YES. I'LL TURN THIS OVER TO JENNY LYNN RUDDER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JENNY LYNN RUDDER. I'M A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WITH GRESHAM SMITH. UM, THANK YOU JOEY FOR WALKING US THROUGH THAT SITE PLAN. UH, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT, THE WAY I WANTED TO COVER THIS WAS TO START WITH THE OVERALL SORT OF LANDSCAPE APPROACH AND FROM THERE WE CAN LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICALLY AT ANY AREAS THAT Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN TALKING ABOUT IN MORE DEPTH. SO THIS IS A GREAT LANDSCAPE APPROACH PAGE. UM, BROADLY JOEY MENTIONED WE HAVE THE BIOSWALE IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER. UM, OUR OVERALL STRATEGY HAS BEEN TO TRY TO REALLY MINIMIZE IMPACT TO THE SITE AS MUCH AS WE CAN. WE WEREN'T ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THOSE STORM WATER, UM, QUALITY RE REQUIREMENTS IN THE AREA THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THE NEW BUILDINGS. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TOUCHING THIS, UH, THIS PORTION OF THE SITE IS TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. UM, BUT IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD THE, THE BIOSWALE, UM, WHICH IS GOING TO BE LANDSCAPED WITH A MIX OF I IDEA INK BERRY, CHOKEBERRY, MULEY, AND SWITCHGRASS, UH, MILKWEED BLACK-EYED SUSAN, WITH THE INTENT BEING THAT WE'RE LOCATING PLANTS THAT WILL BOTH GIVE SOME SEASONAL INTEREST SOME YEAR ROUND, UM, COVER AND BE APPROPRIATE FOR TEMPORARY WET CONDITIONS AND OCCASIONALLY PROLONGED DRY ONES. THE DUMPSTER JUST TO THE EAST OF THAT WAS LOCATED IN THIS SPOT, UM, IN PART JUST DUE TO SITE LIMITATIONS, BUT ALSO BECAUSE THAT WAS THE PLACE OF LEAST, UH, TREE IMPACT. SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD RESTUDY WITH, UH, STAFF, HAPPY TO TALK THROUGH THAT. AND THEN AS YOU GET OVER TOWARD OUR PROPOSED BUILDING, UM, WE ARE RETAINING EXISTING LANDSCAPE WHEREVER POSSIBLE. SO SOME OF THE, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SOUTH SIDE ALONG ROYAL DRIVE, WE'RE UM, JUST KIND OF SUPPLEMENTING WHAT'S ALREADY WHAT'S ALREADY THERE. AND WE'RE IN A BIT OF A BOWL, SO THAT GIVES US A GOOD, UH, BIT OF LANDSCAPE PROTECTION OF THE EXISTING PARKING AND ANY SORT OF UTILITY, UH, SITUATION THAT THAT IS GETTING ADDED AT THE, THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. AND JANE'S, UH, SIGHTLINE STUDY WILL PROBABLY ARTICULATE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEARLY. BUT WE'RE SUPPLEMENTING THAT WITH, UM, EVERGREEN A MIX OF, LET'S SEE, NEEDLE POINT, HOLLY WAX, MYRTLE, UH, AND THEN AS IN SORT OF THE BACK AREAS, UH, EASTERN RED CEDAR AND LAR STEVENS AND SOUTHERN MAG AROUND OUR FOUND FOUNDATIONS, WE WANTED TO BALANCE, UH, YEAR ROUND SORT OF, UH, EVERGREEN GROUNDING WITH A LITTLE BIT OF SEASONAL INTEREST. SO IT'S, UH, BROADLY OAK LEAF HYDRANGEAS INK BAR AZALEAS THAT ALSO MATCHES SOME OF THE, ALL OF THIS IS MEANT TO BUILD ON THE CURRENT MATERIALITY ON THE SITE, ALTHOUGH I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY EASTERN SHORE JUNIPER, BUT THERE'S ENOUGH OF THAT. AND THEN, UH, IN THE PARKING AREAS WE HAVE, UH, A, A MIX OF TREES. I THINK THAT WHEN WE INITIALLY SUBMITTED DRB, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN, UH, RED MAPLES IN THE PARKING. WE HAVE UNDER DISCUSSION WITH STAFF UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE AND ANTICIPATE THOSE CHANGING OUT. UM, AND THEN THE MIX OF [04:45:01] PLANTS THERE IS GOING TO BE MARGINAL WOOD FERN LO OR OAK CHEROKEES, UH, WILLOW OAK, JEFFERSON, AMERICAN ELM. AND WE'RE TRYING TO GROUP THINGS SO THAT YOU GET, AGAIN, THAT BALANCE OF SEASONAL COLOR, BUT, UM, ALSO SCREENING. SO I LIKE THE, UH, OVERALL THING 'CAUSE IT'S A LITTLE MORE GRAPHIC, BUT ANYTHING THAT WE WANNA ZOOM IN ON HERE, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME TREE IMPACTS. WE ARE PLANTING MORE THAN WE ARE REMOVING. WE ARE STILL MEETING ALL OF OUR TREE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS AND WELL EXCEEDING THEM. UM, BUT WE, WE REALLY DID TRY TO, BETWEEN THE CLIENT, THE DESIGN TEAM, THE ARCHITECTURE TEAM, WE TRIED MULTIPLE, YOU KNOW, SITE LAYOUTS JUST TO REALLY MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO THE SITE AND ESPECIALLY TO THE EXISTING CANOPY BECAUSE IT'S DOING SUCH A GOOD JOB OF SORT OF SCREENING SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WANNA BE SCREENED AND THEN SHADING THE, THE PARKING AREAS WHERE WE DID, UH, END UP MEETING AN IMPACT JUST DUE TO THE, YOU KNOW, ADDING THE SIDEWALK, FOR EXAMPLE, TO ROLL DRIVE. UM, WE'LL BE REPLANTING WITH NEW TREES THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MATCH THE PALLET SHRUBS TO SUPPLEMENTING ANYWHERE THAT'S IMPACTED. I GOT A QUESTION RIGHT THERE. YES. ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THAT ENTRY DRIVE, TREE NUMBER 36 52 AND 36 53, ARE THOSE, ARE THOSE OAKS TO MATCH WHAT YOU'RE PLANTING, WHAT YOU'RE INTRODUCING? THOSE TWO I BELIEVE ARE EXISTING TO REMAIN. RIGHT. BUT WHAT ARE THEY? UH, I DON'T KNOW. I'M SORRY. I I CAN LOOK IT UP THOUGH. WELL, I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU'RE MIRRORING ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER SIDE. OH, I SEE. SYMMETRICAL. YEAH. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WAS THAT WE HAD PLANNED THAT INTENTIONALLY, BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK. IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT NOTE THAT THAT WOULD BE A, YOU KNOW, A NICE MOVE. OKAY. AND WHILE WE'RE THERE AND, UM, NOTHING PLANNED FOR THE CENTER OF THE ROUNDABOUT, ALL THAT'S GOOD TO GO. CURRENTLY WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THAT PORTION OF THE SITE. UM, ACTUALLY THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING TO THE CURB. THAT'S TRUE. WE'RE WE ARE REPLACING THE CURB, RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S JUST A, UM, CURB REPLACEMENT ON THE NORTH SIDE JUST TO MAKE IT A MOUNTABLE CURB IF THEY HAVE A SLIGHTLY LARGER VEHICLE COMING THROUGH. BUT THE EXISTING LAND ESCAPING IN THE CENTER WOULD REMAIN OKAY. I THINK IT'S, THERE'S NO TREES. IT'S, UH, MORE SHRUB TYPE OR, UM, FLOWER OR GROUND COVER TYPE LANDSCAPING. OKAY. SO WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS YOU'VE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF GREAT STUFF GOING ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. AND INDEED, IS THAT GONNA CARRY, IS THE LEFT SIDE OF THIS ENTRY AND THE CENTER OF THAT ROUNDABOUT GONNA CARRY THE DAY AS FOR A VEHICULAR EXPERIENCE AS YOU COME, COME INTO THE SITE? OR DO YOU NEED TO ENHANCE THAT OTHER SIDE A LITTLE BIT AS WELL TO MIRROR THE ENTRANCE? I'M NOTING THE OBSERVATION. I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT POINT. UM, AND THEN ONE MORE THING. AT THIS POINT, UM, YOU'RE ADDING THREE OAKS AND, UH, A-M-E-G-R-A, WHATEVER THAT IS, UM, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OFF OF, UH, ROYAL DRIVE. UM, IS THAT JUST TO FILL THE GAP RIGHT THERE? YOU SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? I'M SORRY, IT'S NOT ON THIS SCREEN, IT'S ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. SORRY. UM, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. WE'LL SLIDE ON DOWN. YEAH, RIGHT UP BY THE STREET. SO THEY'RE ADDING THREE QES CORLESS FELLOWS AND THEN YOU'RE ADDING A-M-E-G-R-A, WHATEVER THAT IS. UH, SERVICE BERRY. OKAY. IS THAT JUST TO FILL HOLES? UM, I THINK THAT THE IDEA THAT WE HAD IN OUR MINDS WAS THAT THERE WAS A SHRUB ONLY LAYER THERE AND WE WANTED TO MEET OUR SITE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS AND REPLACE ANY REMOVED TREES AND THAT WAS A, AN OPEN AREA IN WHICH TO DO IT. OKAY. UM, ARE THERE OTHER AREAS Y'ALL WOULD LIKE ME TO ZOOM IN ON? IS THE, UH, IS THE SITE IRRIGATED RIGHT NOW? THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. OR WILL IT BE IRRIGATED? MY MY UNDERSTANDING IS YES, THAT I'M, UH, I'M LOOKING BACK AT OUR CLIENT TEAM TO CON CONFIRM AND YES, IT WOULD, THE PROPOSED WOULD BE IRRIGATED. YOU'RE PLANNING TO IRRIGATE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE LANDSCAPING? THERE WAS MENTION OF THE TRASH ENCLOSURE AND WHAT'S HAPPENING. OH, THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE? YES. YEAH, LET'S GO OVER THE RELOCATED NELLY STEVENS AND SOMETHING. SO THE VIEW FROM NORTH POINT PARKWAY, UM, WE'RE FORTUNATE IN THAT THE GRADE CHANGE GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF A VISUAL BREAK JUST WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY. UM, AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME EXISTING SHRUB, YOU KNOW, SORT OF HEDGE LAYER ALONG THE WEST. [04:50:01] INTERNALLY THE SCREENING WILL BE PRIMARILY ACHIEVED WITH THE MASONRY WALL AND THE SOLID, UM, GATE AND THEN ADJACENT TO THAT, WE'LL, WE'LL PLANT IT UP, BUT IT'S, UH, IT, YOU ARE ACCURATE IN NOTING THAT IT, IT, YOU KNOW, ABUTS THE DRIVEWAY ON THAT SIDE. SO THERE'S NOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLANT DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO IT, BUT WE ARE BEING INTENTIONAL WITH REALLY LOCATE LANDSCAPE TO THE WEST OF IT. AND THIS IS PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR CIVIL DOES ALREADY HAVE SANITARY SEWERS. YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT, UH, ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THE SANITARY SEWERS? NO. DOES IT ALREADY HAVE SANITARY FOR THE DUMPSTER? YEAH. YEAH. SO THERE'S AN EXISTING, UM, SANITARY SEWER LINE THAT RUNS HERE. UM, SO WE WOULD JUST BE ADDING A NEW DUMPSTER PAD DRAIN AND TYING INTO THAT WITH A DOGHOUSE MANTLE. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT WAS MY QUESTION WAS IF IT EXISTS OR DO YOU HAVE TO ADD SOMETHING? WHAT YOU HAVE TO TEAR UP TO GET TO IT AND ALL THAT STUFF. OKAY. YEAH. SO THERE WOULD BE A, UM, COMPONENT OF THE PAVEMENT THAT'S, UH, REPLACED IN THIS AREA AND WE WOULD, UM, REPLACE THE WHOLE WIDTH OF THE DRIVEWAY FOR CONSISTENCY UP TO THAT DOGHOUSE MANHOLE PORTION. AND WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE, DO WE, IS THERE A DRAWING THAT SHOWS THAT? HAVE YOU, DO WE KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR THE DETAILED DESIGN? WE DON'T HAVE THE DETAILED DESIGN AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW, NO. OKAY. IT'S THIS COMMENT'S WORTH NOTING BECAUSE IT CAME UP IN THE PRIOR PROJECT. LOOKING AT THE WAY YOU'VE MASTERED PLANTING AND YOUR, AND YOUR SHRUBS AND YOUR, YOUR DRIFTS IN THERE, IT, THEY'RE SKILLFULLY LAID OUT SO THAT THEY'RE INTERESTING AS OPPOSED TO BEING BLOCKS OF THINGS THAT WERE TOO LAY OUT. SO WELL DONE THERE. THANK YOU. AND I'LL, I'LL SHARE THAT FEEDBACK TO THE TEAM TOO. THEY'LL LOVE TO HEAR IT. OKAY. ANY OTHER LANDSCAPING? ALRIGHT, LET'S JUMP TO THE, UH, ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATIONS AND MATERIALS. PLEASE PASS IT OVER TO JANELLE. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, THIS I'M JU WE UH, AN ARCHITECT FROM REHAM SMITH. UM, BEFORE WE DIVE INTO THE ARCHITECTURE DESIGN, I'M GOING TO BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE BASIC NUMBERS OF THE SITE. THE EXISTING BUILDING THAT YOU SEE IN THE GREEN. UH, THE GRAY IS ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET WIDE AND THEN 200 FEET LONG, TWO STORY HEIGHT, WHICH IS ABOUT, UH, 47 FEET TALL. THE RED IS A NEW BUILDING COMING INTO THIS PARCEL. AND THEN IT IS ABOUT, UM, 160 FEET LONG AND 92 FEET WIDE, WHICH IS ABOUT 75% IN TERMS OF A FULL PLATE. THIS IS A TWO STORY BUILDING. FIRST STORY, FIRST STORE WILL HAVE, UH, CHAMBERS IN IT FOR THE TESTING. THE SECOND FLOOR IS FOR THE OFFICE PEOPLE. THE REASON WHY THE, THE TWO STORY BUILDING IS HIGHER THAN THE EXISTING THREE STORY BUILDING IS BECAUSE CHAMBER ON THE FIRST FLOOR NEEDS A CERTAIN VOLUME OF THE SPACE. SO SECOND FLOOR SLAB WILL BE LOCATED AT 32 FEET ABOVE THE FULL FLOOR FINISH. OKAY. WOW. THAT'S UP THERE. SO ARCHITECTURALLY WE WANTED TO ACHIEVE TWO THINGS, CONTINUITY AND INNOVATION TO SATISFY LG ENERGY, UH, LG ELECTRONICS FI AND FUTURE. AND, UH, BY USING SIMILAR TONE OF THE BRICK COLOR AND USING THE SIMILAR COLOR OF THE TINTED GLASS, UH, WHAT YOU SEE IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER IS A MAIN FACADE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING. AND THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER IS THE WEST FACADE OF THE NEW BUILDING. AND BRINGING THE SAME BRICK TONE INTO THE NEW FUTURE IS THE WAY THAT WE WANTED TO CONTINUE AND, UH, CELEBRATE UH, WHAT WE HAVE IN THE HERITAGE OF THE SITE. AND WANTED TO INTRODUCE AN INNOVATION BY INTRODUCING TERRA CODA RAIN SCREEN SYSTEM, WHICH WILL BE PERFORMED, UH, WELL IN TERMS OF ENERGY [04:55:01] USE AND THE ROBUST MATERIAL. AND THE LOWER, UH, UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER YOU SEE THE SOUTH ELEVATION OF THE NEW BUILDING AND THE LOCATION OF THE MAIN ENTRY WILL BE LOCATED AT THE CORNER TO SHOW THE WAY FINDING FOR THE VISITORS COMING FROM OUTSIDE, EVEN FROM UP, UH, FOR COUNTRIES. AND THAT WILL BE THE PLACE THAT THEY WELCOME THE PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE. AND EVEN USING THE SECOND COLOR, WHICH IS A GRAY TERRA COTA FOR THE NEW BUILDING, WILL BREAK UP THE MAIN FACADE, WHICH IS A 52 51 FEET HIGH TO THE TOP OF THE PARAPET. AND UH, THE WAY THAT WE CHANGE THE COLOR FROM GRADE TO ADOBE IS THE PLACE WHERE THE SEC FIRST FLOOR, SECOND FLOOR HAPPENS IN THE EXISTING BUILDING. SO IT'S, UH, TIED EACH OTHER AND THE F UH, FIRST FLOOR FINISHED FLOOR IS THE SAME. THIS IS THE RENDERING TAKEN FROM MAIN, UH, ENTRY OF THE SITE AND TAKEN FROM ROYAL STREET, WHICH IS ABOUT 22 TO 28 FEET HIGHER THAN THE MAIN CAMPUS. WHILE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, CAN YOU MAYBE HAVE SOMEBODY HOLD UP YOUR SAMPLE BOARD FOR US AND WE'LL JUST, WE CAN KIND OF LOOK AT SOME OF THE MATERIALS. UM, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT MUTE. OH, OKAY. WELL MAYBE, ALRIGHT. YEAH, I THOUGHT IT WAS THESE ARE EXAMPLE. ALRIGHT, WELL MAYBE AS YOU REFERENCE SOME OF THE MATERIALS THEN JENNY CAN HOLD THOSE UP SO. SURE. THE GRAY COLOR I TALKED ABOUT IS THE ONE THAT ONE THE TERRACOTTA. OKAY. AND THE ADOBE COLOR, THAT'S, THAT'S A, THE BASE THAT'S PRIMARILY THE BASE OF THE BUILDING, NO UPPER PROPORTION. OH, THE BASE OF THE BUILDING. YES. OKAY. ADOBE IS UPPER PROPORTION. THAT IS THAT MATERIAL. OKAY. WHY DON'T YOU SHOW IT GO. IF YOU GO BACK TO ONE OF THOSE, UM, THERE YOU GO. PERFECT. ALRIGHT, SO THE, THE BASE OF THE BUILDING IS THE GRAY, THE GRAY, THE DARK, THAT KIND OF DARKER GRAY. MM-HMM . AND THEN THE RAIN SCREEN MATERIAL IS THE BOTH ARE RAIN SCREEN, THEY'RE JUST DIFFERENT COLOR. OKAY. YEAH, JUST A DIFFERENT COLOR. YEAH. BUT WE DO HAVE A, A PROPORTION FOOT, UH, PROJECTED OUT FROM THE BASE SO THAT IT CAN BE DISTINGUISHED AS AN ARCHITECTURE STATEMENT. OKAY. AS FAR AS THE ROOFTOP UNIT, WE HAVE ABOUT CURRENTLY FIVE FOOT, 10 ISH ROOFTOP UNIT CENTRALIZED IN THE, UH, BUILDING AND, UH, SIDELINE WE TOOK FROM THE ROYAL STREET. UM, WE ARE SUCCESSFULLY HIDING EVERYTHING. UH, WE HAVE ALL THE GREAT BUILDINGS WELL DESIGNED, BUT HAVING SOME GIGANTIC, UH, ROOFTOP UNIT SHOWN FROM THE STREET, WHICH IS NOT A GOOD THING. SO WE WERE VERY PRUDENT AND VERY COLLABORATED TO LOCATE THE PROPER LOCATION FOR THE ROOFTOP UNITS. AND THIS SECTION IS TAKEN AT THE MIDDLE OF THE BUILDING LOOKING TOWARDS THE EAST AND THE RIGHT SIDE IS THE ROYAL STREET, WHICH IS ABOUT 22 TO 28 FEET HIGHER THAN THE CAMPUS. NATURALLY HIDING ALL THE, THE TRANSFORMERS AND EVERYTHING AND NOT SHOWING THE ROOFTOP UNIT. WE'RE ALSO EVEN CONSIDERING TO HAVE A SCREEN WALL FOR THE ROOFTOP UNIT JUST IN CASE. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? CAN I, CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? SURE. REGARDING THE RAIN SCREEN PRODUCT, UM, A LOT OF TIMES, UH, THERE'S AN INTENTIONAL DESIGN AT THE CORNER OR DOES THIS PRODUCT HAVE CORNER PIECES THAT WRAP AT THE BUILDING CORNERS OR THAT I HAVE USED THIS MULTIPLE TIMES? UH, WE CAN HAVE CORNER PIECES, WHICH COULD BE A LITTLE OKAY, GOOD. COSTLY. UH, BUT WHAT I HAVE DONE WAS THE MIT CHAMBER MIRE CORNER, WHICH HAS A LITTLE LESS JOINT DIMENSION THAN THE TYPICAL JOINT SO THAT IT DOESN'T SHOW THE CLIP CLIPPING SYSTEM INSIDE. DO THEY CUT THAT IN THE FIELD OR IS IT A CORNER PIECE? THAT'S CORNER PIECE COMES, UH, AS A REGULAR AND THE CUTTING CORNER, UH, CUTTING IN THE FIELD. THE WAY THEY DES UH, THEY CREATE THE MODULE, UH, OF THE PANEL IS THAT UNLIKE 10 YEARS AGO, THEY MAKE DIE FOR THE PROJECT. MM-HMM. AND THERE'S NO WORD CUSTOM ANYMORE. RIGHT. THEY MAKE EVERYTHING CUSTOM [05:00:01] FOR THE PROJECT. GREAT, THANK YOU. UM, I, I I LIKE THE DESIGN OF THE, THE, YOUR NEW BUILDING, THE R AND D BUILDING. MY ONLY CONCERN IS WITH THE RAIN SCREEN, THE ADOBE COLOR OR TERRACOTTA. HOW CLOSELY DOES THAT MATCH THE EXISTING BRICK BUILDING? 'CAUSE YOU EITHER, YOU'RE EITHER GONNA HIT IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD, NAIL ON THE HEAD OR IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. WE HAVE TWO COLORS VERY CLOSE TO THE EXISTING BUT DOES NOT MATCH A HUNDRED PERCENT. ONE WAY WE CAN DO IS MATCH TO, TO CUSTOMIZE A COLOR, TO CUSTOMIZE COLOR AND TO MATCH A HUNDRED PERCENT. UM, THE OTHER WAY IS THERE ARE TWO COLORS, ROSE WOOD AND ADOBE. THERE ARE, THOSE TWO COLORS ARE COMING FROM THE STANDARD AND WE LOOKED AT IT AND THERE ARE SUBTLE DIFFERENCES, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DEPARTURE A LITTLE BIT AWAY FROM, UH, GETTING CLOSE, BUT NOT EXACTLY MATCHING BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE A MISTAKE. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M AFRAID OF. RIGHT. SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE WE'RE TRYING BUT WE DIDN'T MATCH IT KIND OF WE'RE GONNA AVOID IT. SO OWNER'S DECISION HAS NOT COME TO OUR DESK YET, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT AND THEY PUT IT IN THE DAYLIGHT AND THEY EVEN FORECAST AND THEY WE'RE LOOKING CLOSE TO IT. OKAY. I THINK, UM, FIELD SAMPLES, UH, APPROVED BY STAFF INSPECTIONS OR STAFF. SO YOU SAID THEY CAN CUSTOM COLOR IT, THEY CAN'T, YOU CAN GET A CUSTOM COLOR, THEY CAN DO THE CUSTOM COLOR IF, IF NECESSARY. YES. IF, IF THAT IS NECESSARY. THE THE NICE THING THOUGH IS THAT THE BUILDINGS ARE A GOOD 50 FEET APART SO THEY'RE NOT LIKE TOUCHING . YEAH. SO THAT HELPS A LITTLE BIT. 58 TO 65, BUT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM LIKE NORTH POINT PARKWAY, WHATEVER, THEY'RE GONNA LOOK, YOU KNOW, ONE'S BEHIND THE OTHER. SO YOU KIND OF SEE THEM, YOU'LL SEE THEM IN THE SAME VIEW BY LOOKING AT THE PHOTO I HAVE COMPARING EXISTING ADOBE AND ROSEWOOD. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN NOTICE IT FROM THE STREET. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. CAN, CAN WE SEE THOSE LIKE, CAN LIKE THE UM, WHY DON'T YOU JUST, YEAH, WHY DON'T YOU ALL THE MATERIAL, DO YOU MIND PASSING THOSE AROUND ALL THE MATERIALS THAT YOU BROUGHT? WHY DON'T YOU JUST HOLD THEM EACH OF THE MATERIALS UP JUST AS UM, WELL I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE UP CLOSE AND PORTION. OH, OKAY. IF YOU DON'T MIND. ALRIGHT. I'VE JUST NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE. THANK YOU. YEAH, WHY DON'T YOU JUST, UM, BUT YOU NEED TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE. MAYBE YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE AND JOEY HOLDS THE MATERIALS UP. JUST HOLD THE MATERIAL UP AND TELL US WHERE IT GOES ON THE BUILDING OR WHAT. SURE. SO WHAT HE HAS RIGHT NOW IS A TYPICAL GLASS WHICH IS MATCHING WITH THE EXISTING. OKAY. ALRIGHT. GOOD. OKAY. THE OTHER ONE IS A SPAN OR PANEL WHERE WE HAVE, SO EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE A THREE STORY BUILDING IN THE ELEVATION, IT'S A TWO STORY BUILDING. THE LOWER PORTION MAY NEED A SPAN OR PANEL. IT LOOKED DARK. BOTH OF THEM ARE LOOK DARK. THAT'S JUST EXPANDER PANEL. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND THE METAL PANEL METAL COMPOSITE. A CM IS FOR THE CANOPY OF THE MAIN ENTRY. OKAY. AND THE LAST SMALL PIECE, UH, DARK BRONZE IS FOR THE ALUMINUM STOREFRONT. OKAY. WHICH IS, UH, USED IN THE EXISTING BUILDING. OKAY. I LIKE IT. YEAH. IT'S LOOKS LIKE MASONRY. IT DOES, IT FEELS LIKE . ONE MORE THING THAT, UH, ATTRIBUTE OF THE MATERIAL IS THAT, THAT THAT'S A TRUE BODY. SO IF YOU HAVE A LITTLE CHIP, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE IT. SOME MATERIALS HAVE WHITE INSIDE. YES. AND IF YOU HAVE A CHIP, YOU SEE THE WHITE. NO, THIS IS INTEGRAL. SO IT'S, YEAH, THAT'S A TRUE BODY. THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD. YEAH. MY ONLY, MY ONLY CONCERN IS TRYING TO, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO MATCH THAT EXISTING BRICK H HOW, YOU KNOW, YOU EITHER GET IT DEAD ON OR AND IF YOU'RE JUST A LITTLE BIT OFF, THEN IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A MISTAKE. MISTAKE, MISTAKE. YES. OR YOU JUST GO COMPLETELY SOMETHING DIFFERENT. YEAH. IT'S LIKE THAT'S WHAT IT'S LIKE YOU OR GO TO THAT WHITE COLOR OR SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DO BUT YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING TOO. OKAY. UM, WITH THE PRESENTATION MADE, I'M GONNA ASK IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THIS APPLICATION THIS AFTERNOON? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, RIGHT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT, SO, OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS TOPICS? NO. AND I TO LOOK AT, AND I THINK IT WAS SAID THE, THE, THE MATERIALS FOR THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE. IS THAT NOT, DID I HEAR THAT WAS NOT DETERMINED YET. WE ARE AWARE OF THIS BUT WE DIDN'T CAME UP, [05:05:01] COME UP WITH THIS, UH, THE DETAILED DESIGN YET. OKAY. UM, ONE THING I DID NOTICE IN YOUR PARKING LOT OUT THERE THIS MORNING WAS A METAL SHIPPING CONTAINER. SO I ASSUME THAT WAS JUST TEMPORARY OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE PERMANENT? IT'S NOT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I JUST, JUST ASKING, I JUST SAW IT'S WHAT I SAW THIS MORNING. WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT LIKE, UM, IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER NEAR WHERE THE DUMPSTER PAD IS CURRENTLY? THOUGHT IT WAS ALONG NORTH POINT PARKWAY IN THE PARKING LOT ALONG NORTH POINT PARKWAY. I THINK THEY HAD SOME, I THINK YOU HAD SOME STORAGE IN THERE OR SOMETHING. HE HAD SOME CONTRACTOR DOING SOME WORK. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. OKAY. YEAH, THAT WAS JUST, JUST CHECKING. YEP. . OKAY. CAN WE INCLUDE CIVIL AND LANDSCAPE TOGETHER? YES. CIVIL LANDSCAPE, EVERYTHING ACTUALLY. YEAH. MR. CHAIRMAN FOR DRB 2 5 0 0 4 0 I SUBMIT A MOTION THAT WE PROVE THE CIVIL AND THE LANDSCAPE AS THEY'VE BEEN PRESENTED TODAY. AND A MOTION. SECOND. ALRIGHT. MOTION. MOTION BY MR. OWENS. SECOND. SECOND BY MR. ROWAN. ANY COMMENTS? ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR? YEAH, I'VE GOT A COMMENT THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE CONDITIONED IN THAT THE ENTRANCE, WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING AS FAR AS THE ENTRANCE THAT UH, PLANTINGS NEED TO MIRROR ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ENTRANCE. THEY NEED TO WORK TO, TO DO THAT AND WORK ON UH, THAT ROUNDABOUT TOO, ESPECIALLY WHERE THINGS MAY HAVE BEEN DAMAGED OR DESTROYED 'CAUSE OF CURB WORK, THAT SORT OF THING. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S INFERRED OR IF IT NEEDS TO BE PART OF A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT OR DON'T YOU JUST OFFER FRIEND THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. OKAY. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO UH, THE MOTION THAT THE LANDSCAPE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ENTRANCE AND THE ROUNDABOUT NOTABLY WERE N DAMAGE OR DESTROYED BY WORK. THAT THE PLANTING SHALL MIRROR EACH OTHER AS BEST AS POSSIBLE. THAT IS MY FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. I ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. I ACCEPT IT. OKAY. FRIENDLY AMENDMENT HAS BEEN ACCEPTED BY MR. OWENS AND MR. ROWAN. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOTION THERE BEING NOW A CALL FOR A VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. ALL OPPOSED NO OPPOSITION. MOTION PASSES. SIX ZERO. OKAY. UM, WE GOT THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE MATERIALS. ALRIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, REGARDING D RRB 2 500 0 4 0 LGES MOTION TO APPROVE THE ELEVATION AND MATERIALS AS PRESENTED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. THE MATERIALS FOR THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE ONCE SELECTED, WILL BE SUBMITTED TO STAFF FOR FINAL APPROVAL. THE TERRACOTTA COLORED RAIN SCREEN PANEL WILL MATCH THE BRICK ON THE EXISTING BUILDING, WHICH MAY REQUIRE A CUSTOM COLOR MATCH. A SAMPLE WILL BE FIELD APPROVED BY STAFF FOR FINAL APPROVAL AND A MOTION. SECOND. OKAY. A MOTION BY MR. SWING, A SECOND BY MS. PALMER. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE MOTION THERE BEING NONE I'LL CALL FOR VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. ALL OPPOSED NO OPPOSITION. MOTION PASSES. SIX ZERO. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY, WITH THERE BEING, LET'S SEE, ONE, ONE ANNOUNCEMENT. OUR NEXT MEETING IS GONNA BE JANUARY 16TH, 2026. SO WITH THAT I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS A MERRY CHRISTMAS. HAPPY NEW YEAR, HAPPY HOLIDAYS. AND THE SWEARING IN, REMEMBER THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE YES, THE SWEARING IN IS ON JANUARY 5TH, SO VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT, WITH THAT THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS AND WITH NO OBJECTIONS FROM FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, THIS MEETING IS HEREBY ADJOURNED. NO OBJECTION. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.