Jan 28, 2026 Special City Council

UM, WE'RE EXCITED TO GET GOING ON THE ON THE HOUSE.

THANK, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN DORITO? THANK YOU MAYOR.

GOOD TO SEE YOU, MICHAEL.

LIKEWISE.

UM, JUST REALLY ONE QUESTION.

UH, AND I KNOW THIS WAS RAISED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, MEETING REGARDING THE, UM, THE DOWNSTREAM POTENTIAL FLOODING, UH, THE IMPACTS OF, OF THE CREEK.

UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THE DEVELOPER, THE OWNER'S GONNA ACHIEVE CONDITION 14, WHICH SAYS DEVELOPER OWNER AGREES TO DEVELOP A LONG TERM MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT FOR THE MITIGATION OF THE STREAM BUFFER.

SO THAT WOULD BE ACHIEVED? YEAH, SO THAT WAS A CONDITION THAT WAS ACTUALLY ADDED BY PLANNING COMMISSION.

IT WASN'T NECESSARILY IN, UH, THE INITIAL STAFF RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS WHEN THIS WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT JILL WOULD REQUIRE THAT ANYWAYS WITH A BUFFER MITIGATION PLAN THAT THERE WOULD BE A MAINTENANCE PLAN WITH WITH THAT.

UM, AND THAT WOULD BE ESTABLISHED AT THE LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT PROCESS.

DOES THAT CARRY, I MEAN, THERE'D BE OBVIOUSLY AN INITIAL OWNER.

DOES THAT CARRY ON IF IT GETS RESOLD OR, I MEAN, IS OR HE CARRIES WITH THE PROPERTY? YES.

YEAH, IT WOULD BE THE, THE AGREEMENT WOULD BE, WOULD GO WITH THE PROPERTY FOR AS LONG AS THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WAS ESTABLISHED FOR, UM, AND IF THE THE PROPERTY IS SOLD, IT WOULD TRANSFER TO THE NEW OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY.

WHAT DO WE MEAN IN THE CONDITION LONG TERM? IS THAT TO BE DETERMINED OR? I BELIEVE THAT IS JUST A TERM THAT, THAT PLANNING COMMISSION USED IN THAT CONDITION.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS ANY KIND OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT WOULD BE, UM, I CAN CERTAINLY, I COULD SEEK SOME CLARIFICATION FROM JILL BASSETT, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SHE WOULD REQUIRE A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH A BUFFER MITIGATION PLAN ANYWAYS, SO SHE HAS SOME STANDARDS, UH, THAT SHE WOULD FOLLOW.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. WOODMAN AT THIS POINT? THANK YOU, MR. WOODMAN.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME? HEY THERE.

UM, TORY YOUNG WITH MADEWELL 18 C*****G STREET.

AND, UM, BEFORE I GET STARTED, CONGRATULATIONS ON THE NEW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND, UH, AND THEN CHRIS, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IN THE EFFORTS TO RESCHEDULE AFTER THE WEATHER.

SO THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR, FOR BEING HERE ON AN UNSCHEDULED NIGHT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

UM, EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT.

UM, SPENT A LONG TIME COMING.

A LOT OF, UM, HARD WORK, JUST, UH, THE PROCESS OF UNTETHERING IT FROM MILTON HIGH SCHOOL.

THE PROPERTY WAS A CONTINUOUS CONNECTION TO MILTON HIGH SCHOOL, I BELIEVE FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS.

UM, SOMEWHERE ALONG THOSE LINES.

AND SO IT WAS QUITE THE FEAT TO EVEN DO ALL OF THE LEGAL, UM, DESCRIPTION WORK AND, AND, AND ALL OF THAT.

IT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING PROCESS, BUT NONETHELESS, UH, WE'RE HERE.

UM, I FEEL LIKE IT'S THE BEST CASE SCENARIO.

UM, IT WASN'T WHAT WE WERE ASKING FOR ORIGINALLY, UM, COMING INTO THE CITY AND, UH, WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO PUT FORWARD.

BUT AS IT STANDS, UM, WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH KIND OF WHERE EVERYTHING IS AT THIS POINT.

UM, HOMEOWNER'S GONNA BE VERY EXCITED TO BE THERE.

UM, SUPER CLOSE TO THE DOWNTOWN WALKABLE AND,

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GOT ANY QUESTIONS? HAPPY TO ANSWER.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? HI THERE.

NICE TO SEE YOU.

YOU TOO.

UM, I SAW YOU MENTION BEES.

YEP.

SO I WAS WONDERING, HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO, UM, THE PRINCIPAL OVER THERE AT INNOVATION OR ANY OF OUR LOCAL BEEKEEPERS? I HAVE SPOKEN WITH A COUPLE OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN CHARGE OF EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE DOING OVER THERE.

NOT SPECIFICALLY WITH THE, THE PRINCIPAL.

I DID, UM, DO THAT.

I ALSO SPOKE WITH, UM, A COUPLE OF FOLKS FROM ACTUAL FULTON COUNTY, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY, UM, TRESPASS AND, UM, SO ANYWAY, UM, SO THE CONVERSATIONS HAVE STARTED, BUT NOT SPECIFICALLY TO THE PRINCIPAL.

I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT.

I HOPE THAT, I HOPE THAT STICKS BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S A GREAT PROGRAM OVER THERE.

IT IS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, SIR.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU MS. SHAPIRO.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS ON THIS ITEM? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION.

HOWEVER, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK IN FAVOR, NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO DO SO.

DON'T SEE ANYONE APPROACHING.

SO IF WE HAVE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ITEM, NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO DO THAT AS WELL.

AND ONCE AGAIN, I DON'T SEE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT COMING FORWARD.

SO WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNSEL? YES, SIR.

MR. MAYOR, I'D MAKE A MOTION THIS EVENING TO APPROVE Z 25 DASH 15 SLASH V DASH 25 DASH 34 MADEWELL MILTON AVENUE AS PRESENTED TO US THIS EVENING.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS COUNCILMAN DORITO WITH A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE VOTE YES AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

NEXT ITEM PUBLIC HEARING

[C. PH-26-03/MP-25-05/CU-25-07/V-26-01 AC Hotel and Vertiport/Northwinds Summit
Consideration of a change of condition, master plan amendment, conditional use, and variance related to a ‘Vertiport’ and hotel in the Northwinds Summit mixed-use development. A change of conditions is requested to increase the maximum height of a hotel from 6 to 7 stories and to increase the maximum number of hotel rooms from 140 to 165. A master plan amendment is requested to the Northwinds Summit Master Plan to add ‘Vertiport’ as conditional use and a conditional use is requested to allow ‘Vertiport’ for the applicant’s proposed Vertiport. A variance is requested to Unified Development Code (UDC) Subsection 2.10.8(D) to allow EIFS as an exterior building material on a hotel. The property is located at 1000 and 2000 Summit Place and is legally described as being located in Land Lots 752, 753, 798 & 799, 1^st District, 2^nd Section, Fulton County, Georgia.]

IS P DASH 26 DASH OH THREE SLASH MP DASH 25 DASH OH FIVE SLASH CU DASH 25 DASH OH SEVEN SLASH V DASH 26 DASH OH ONE AC HOTEL IN VERTI PORT NORTH WIND SUMMIT.

I'VE BEEN INFORMED THAT Y'ALL MIGHT WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT A VERTI PORT IS TO ONE OF OUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO I WOULD COVER THAT IN DETAIL AS MUCH AS YOU'RE POSSIBLE TOO.

UH, I MAKE YOU MAY, UH, PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, WE WANNA BREAK THIS INTO TWO VOTES.

WE WANNA DO THE VERTI PORT ON ONE VOTE.

WE WANT TO DO THE INCREASED CAPACITY OF THE HOTEL ON A SECOND VOTE.

IS THAT FINE? IS THAT APPROPRIATE? I AM GONNA READ THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY, BUT I THINK TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING WOULD GIVE ME ENOUGH TIME AND THEN I CAN WEIGH IN AT THAT POINT IF THAT'S OKAY.

TO THE NORTH POINT OVERLAY BUILDING REGULATIONS TO, AND THE VARIANCE WOULD BE TO ALLOW ETHOS INSTEAD OF STUCCO AS A PRIMARY, UH, OR AS A PERMITTED EXTERIOR MATERIAL ON THE HOTEL BUILDING.

WHAT WAS THAT? ? UH, GO AHEAD AND HAVE STAFF, UH, PRESENT IT AND HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN FAIR ENOUGH.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I HAD CLEAR DIRECTION.

I'LL WEIGH IN.

MR. WOODMAN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR AGAIN, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

THE NEXT REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS A REQUEST FOR MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT CONDITION, UM, CHANGE OF CONDITION, CONDITIONAL USE AND VARIANCE TO ALLOW A VERTI PORT AS WELL AS A SEVEN STORY 165 ROOM AC HOTEL IN THE NORTH WIND SUMMIT.

UH, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

THE VERTI PORT IN THE HOTEL ARE PROPOSED ON PARCELS AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE DEVELOPMENT OFF HAYNES BRIDGE ROAD AND A ALONG SUMMIT PLACE.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE LOCATION MAP HERE, NORTH WIND'S MASTER PLAN, UM, I'M SORRY, THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT IS REQUESTED TO ADD A VERTI PORT TO THE NORTH WINDS MASTER PLAN, AND A CONDITIONAL USE IS REQUESTED TO ALLOW VERTI PORT FOR THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU THEN.

THERE'S A CHANGE OF CONDITION AND VARIANCE RELATED TO THE INCREASE IN HEIGHT OF THE AC OF THE HOTEL BUILDING FROM SIX TO SEVEN STORIES AND INCREASING THE NUMBER OF ROOMS FROM 140 ROOMS TO 165 ROOMS. AND THE VARIANCE PERTAINS

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AND I DO HAVE THE LOCATION MAP HERE.

WE HAVE 1000 AND 2000 SUMMIT PLACE.

THE HOTEL IS PROPOSED ON THE SMALLER PARCEL WITH THE VERTI PORT PROPOSED ON THE LARGER PARCEL.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED MU MIXED USE.

IT'S SUBJECT TO THE NORTH WIND SUMMIT MASTER PLAN.

THIS IS JUST UNDER 25 ACRE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS APPROVED, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN 2017 INITIALLY.

UM, THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IS IMPROVED WITHIN 140 UNIT FOUR RENT BUILDING AS WELL AS GROUND FLOOR RETAIL AND RESTAURANT USES.

THERE'S A TWO STORY OFFICE BUILDING AND THERE ARE FOR SALE CONDOMINIUM BUILDING.

IN ADDITION TO THOSE USES THAT ARE EXISTING, THERE'S ADDITIONAL APPROVALS WITHIN THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT OF 140 ROOM HOTEL, 30,000 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL RESTAURANT USES AND ABOUT 1.2 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE AS IT RELATES TO THE VERTI PORT REQUEST.

SO VER DEPORT, WE RECENTLY ADDED A DEFINITION INTO OUR CODE.

WE DEFINE VER DEPORT AS WELL AS ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY.

AND ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY REFERS TO THE TRANSPORT OF PASSENGERS AND CARGO, SHORT TO MEDIUM RANGE DISTANCES USING NEW AND EMERGING AIRCRAFT TECHNOLOGIES SUCH AS ELECTRIC VEHICLE TAKEOFF AND LANDING AIRCRAFT, WHICH ARE ABBREVIATED AS EV TOLLS.

WE ALSO DEFINE EV TOLL IN OUR CODE AS WELL.

OUR CODE DEFINES VERTI PORT AS A STATION CONSISTING OF TAKEOFF AND LANDING FACILITIES, AND MAY ALSO INCLUDE CHARGING, FUELING, STORAGE AND MAINTENANCE FACILITIES, UH, FOR U FOR USE BY EV TOLLS.

WE ALSO INCLUDE IN OUR DEFINITION THAT VERTI PORT SHALL NOT BE USED BY HELICOPTERS.

THERE IS A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TECHNOLOGY HELICOPTER IS MUCH, UH, LOUDER, UM, AS WHAT AND THE EV TOLLS ARE, ARE MUCH QUIETER.

THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S, UH, SITE PLAN FOR THE VERTI PORT.

SO THE APPLICANT, UM, THERE'S A THREE STORY PARKING DECK THAT SITS IN FRONT OF A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL BUILDING AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE DEVELOPMENT OFF OF HAYNES BRIDGE ROAD.

SO THE, UM, SOUTHEAST CORNER, UM, THE THREE STORY PARKING DECK SITS BEHIND THE TOP LEVEL OF THE PARKING DECK WOULD INCLUDE FOUR UH, LANDING PADS AS WELL AS JUST UNDER 11,000 SQUARE FOOT VERTA PORT TERMINAL.

AND THIS JUST GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT CLOSER VIEW.

AND ON THE TOP OF THAT PARKING DECK, THE OTHER PART OF THIS REQUEST DEALS WITH THE HOTEL, AND THAT'S A CHANGE OF CONDITION TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT OF THE HOTEL FROM SIX TO SEVEN STORIES, AS WELL AS INCREASE THE NUMBER OF ROOMS FROM 140 TO 165 ROOMS. THE APPLICATION INDICATES THAT THIS REQUEST IS NECESSARY TO MEET MARKET DEMAND AND POSITION THE HOTEL TO BE ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE DUE TO CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS.

AND SO I'LL SHOW YOU THE HOTEL SITE.

SO AGAIN, THE SMALLER OF THE TWO PARCELS, THE VERTI PORT WOULD BE PROPOSED HERE.

THE HOTEL IS PROPOSED ON THE SMALLER PARCEL BETWEEN HAYNES BRIDGE ROAD AND THE PARKING DECK AND THE MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING SITE PLAN DEPICTS A SEVEN STORY 165 ROOM HOTEL.

THE ALPHA LOOP RUNS ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE HOTEL ON SUMMIT PLACE.

THERE'S A PICKUP AND DROP OFF AREA ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE HOTEL, AND THERE'S ALSO A SURFACE PARKING LOT WITH 26 PARKING SPACES ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE HOTEL.

SO 26 IS NOT ENOUGH PARKING FOR 165 ROOM HOTEL.

THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL SEVEN PARKING SPACES DEDICATED TO THE HOTEL ALONG THIS ACCESS ROAD BETWEEN THE HOTEL AND THE PARKING DECK.

AND THERE ARE ANOTHER 123 PARKING SPACES IN THE PARKING DECK THAT ARE ALLOCATED TO THE HOTEL.

THIS PARKING DECK IS A 369 SPACE PARKING DECK.

AND THAT PARKING, UM, THE PARKING IN THIS PARKING DECK PROVIDES PARKING FOR THE HOTEL AS WELL AS FOR THE MULTIFAMILY.

NONE OF THESE USES SHARE PARKING.

THEY JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE PARKING

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IN THE SAME STRUCTURE.

SO THESE, THE PARKING THAT IS PROVIDED FOR THE MULTIFAMILY, THE FIR THE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL RESTAURANT, AS WELL AS THE HOTEL, ALL UH, THE PARKING THAT'S PROVIDED ON THE SITE EXCEEDS OUR MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS PART OF THE NORTH POINT OVERLAY, AND SO WE DO REQUIRE A 20% REDUCTION IN PARKING.

SO YOU CALCULATE YOUR PARKING BASED ON OUR RATES IN OUR CODE, AND THEN YOU REDUCE THEM BY 20%.

SO THIS DOES CONSIDER THE 20% REDUCTION, BUT THEY, IS IT REQUIRED FOR OVERLAP? IT'S, IT'S REQUIRED.

THE PARKING REDUCTION IN NORTH POINT OVERLAY IS REQUIRED? YEAH.

UM, SO THEY, THEY PROVIDE 442 SPACES ON SITE AND OUR CODE WOULD REQUIRE 408.

SO THEY DO EXCEED THE, UH, MAX NUMBER OF PARKING REQUIRED.

JUST GOING BACK TO THE HOTEL SITE PLAN, JUST A ZOOMED IN VERSION.

SO THE HOTEL IS ORIENTED HERE WITH THE PARKING SURFACE PARKING LOT ON THE NORTH END, THAT PICKUP DROP OFF AREA, THIS IS COVERED AREA UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING HERE.

AND THEN ACCESS TO THAT PARKING IS THROUGH THIS, UH, ACROSS THIS, UM, ACCESS ROAD.

THE OTHER PART OF THE, UM, REQUESTS RELATED TO THE HOTEL IS A REQUEST TO ALLOW EFIS AS A, UM, PERMITTED EXTERIOR MATERIAL.

SO IN THE NORTH POINT OVERLAY, WE HAVE CERTAIN, UM, EXTERIOR MATERIALS THAT ARE PERMITTED.

UH, THOSE ARE PERMITTED BASED ON IF THEY ARE FACING A STREET OR A CIVIC SPACE.

SO IN THE NORTH POINT AREA, IF THE PORTION OF THE BUILDING IS NOT FACING THE STREET OR FACING A CIVIC SPACE, THEY COULD USE E ETHOS.

THE VARIANCE REQUEST REALLY IS FOR THE USE OF E ETHOS ON THE PORTION OF THE BUILDING THAT WOULD FACE HAINES BRIDGE ROAD.

SO THE PORTION THAT IT FACE THAT THEY HAVE ETHOS ON, ON THE OTHER END OF THE BUILDING FACES INTERIOR TO THE SITE AND DOES NOT FACE A CIVIC SPACE OR A A PUBLIC STREET.

AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME OF THE IMAGES THAT THEY PROVIDED.

SO THIS IS THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING WITH THAT PARKING LOT ON, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

THIS IS THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

SO INTERIOR, LOOKING TOWARDS HAYNES BRIDGE, HAYNES BRIDGE WOULD SIT OUT HERE.

THEN THIS IS THAT, UM, PICKUP DROP OFF AREA.

SO THE EFIS IS ACTUALLY PROPOSED ON THIS LONG STRIP HERE.

SO THE APPLICANT PROVIDED YOU ELEVATIONS SHOWING, UM, THEY DESIGNED IT IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR CODE.

SO THEY SHOW THIS AS STUCCO, WHICH IS PERMITTED, AND THEN THEY SHOW THIS AS ETHOS IS WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IN THE VARIANCE.

SO YOU HAVE ETHOS ON THE BUILDING WHERE IT FACES HANES BRIDGE JUST ON THIS SECTION HERE.

AND THEN ON THE BACK SECTION THAT FACES INTERIOR TO THE SITE.

THIS SECTION IS WHERE THEY'RE SHOWING EVIS.

THEY SHOW YOU, UM, THE FOUR SIDES OF THE BUILDING IN A FLAT ELEVATION.

UM, THERE, THIS WOULD BE THE SOUTH ELEVATION.

SO THE LONG SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THERE'S ETHOS IS NOT BEING PROPOSED.

IT'S ON THE NARROW SIDES OF THE BUILDING WHERE THE ETHOS WOULD BE PROPOSED.

JUST HERE, THIS IS SHOWING STUCCO UP HERE.

SO THIS IS CODE COMPLIANT AND THIS IS SHOWING ETHOS IN THIS LOCATION PER THEIR VARIANCE REQUEST.

SAME THING ON THE WEST ELEVATION, STUCCO AND EFIS.

SO OF COURSE WE LOOKED AT THE REVIEW CRITERIA FOR THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT.

CONDITIONAL USE, CHANGE OF CONDITION AND VARIANCE.

UH, THE VERTI PORT AND AC HOTEL WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, WHICH ARE PRIM, PRIMARILY DEVELOPED AS OFFICE BUILDINGS.

SOME, SOME HOTELS AS WELL, BUT OFFICE BUILDINGS AND A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

THE BOUTIQUE OR FULL SERVICE HOTEL WAS APPROVED WITH THE NORTH WIND SUMMIT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

SO THERE WAS A CONDITION THAT REQUIRED A BOUTIQUE OR FULL SERVICE HOTEL THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2017.

WE ALSO FOUND THAT HOTEL HAS BEEN AN ALLOWABLE USE IN NORTH WIND'S MASTER PLAN SINCE THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN 1986.

SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A TOTAL TOTAL OF 600 ROOMS THAT WERE APPROVED IN THE NORTH WINDS MASTER PLAN.

UM, AND THERE ARE ONLY TWO HOTEL BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT IN, IN NORTH WINDS AND THE ROOMS TOTAL 176 ROOMS. SO WE WERE SUPPORTING THIS REQUEST 'CAUSE IT WAS AN ADDITIONAL 25 ROOMS. IT WOULD ENSURE

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A, UM, THE BRAND OF THE HOTEL AND A FOUR STAR PRODUCT.

UM, AND THAT WOULD BE IF APPROVED, THE 165 WOULD COME OUT OF THAT, THAT TOTAL 600 THAT WAS APPROVED.

AND THE UNDERLYING MASTER PLAN, NORTH WINDS MASTER PLAN.

AS IT RELATES TO THE VERTI PORTS, UH, WE FOUND THAT VERTI PORTS ARE LOCATED AT AIRPORTS BUILDING ROOFTOPS PARKING DECKS, AS WELL AS THAT GRAVE.

WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING IS CERTAINLY IN LINE WITH WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING.

UH, THE VERTI PORT WILL SERVE EV TOLLS, NOT HELICOPTERS, BUT THE EV TOLLS, UH, WHICH UTILIZE TECHNOLOGY THAT IS MUCH QUIETER THAN A HELICOPTER.

UM, THAT THAT'S PART OF WHY WE'RE SUPPORTING THAT REQUEST.

AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME MASTER PLANS THAT ALLOW VERTI PORTS AS WELL AS HELIPORTS, UH, WITHIN THOSE MASTER PLANS.

AS IT RELATES TO THE VARIANCE, WE BELIEVE THE APPLICATION OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD CREATE AN UNNECESSARY HARDSHIP.

UM, THEY HAVE PROVIDED SOME INFORMATION SHOWING THAT THE, THAT ETHOS IS A MORE DURABLE MATERIAL THAN STU STUCCOS THAT WILL HOLD UP, UM, MAINTENANCE WISE.

AND THEN THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION REPORT INDICATING THAT THEY RECEIVED NO COMMENTS ON THE REQUEST.

THE VERTI PORT REQUEST WAS SHOWN AT CZIM ON APRIL 9TH, AND THE HOTEL REQUEST WAS SHOWN AT CZIM ON DECEMBER 10TH.

AND THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS AT EITHER OF THE TWO CZIM MEETINGS.

THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW THE VERTI PORT WAS CONSIDERED BY PLANNING COMMISSION ON OCTOBER 2ND.

THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THAT MEETING.

AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED UNANIMOUS APPROVAL SUB SUBJECT TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDED CONDITION OF WHICH THERE WERE FOUR CONDITIONS.

AND THEN AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THE APPLICANT, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER ADDED THE REQUEST FOR THE CHANGE OF CONDITION AND VARIANCE RELATED TO THE, THE AC HOTEL.

AND THAT REQUEST WAS INCORPORATED INTO THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST FOR THE VERTI PORT DUE TO THE WAITING PERIOD ISSUE.

SO THE COUNCIL, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT IN THE UDC THAT THERE BE A WAITING PERIOD FOR ANY COUNCIL DECISIONS ON ZONING DECISIONS ON THE SAME PROPERTY OF 12 MONTHS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE INCORPORATED THEM AS ONE REQUEST INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM SEPARATED.

AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.

THANK YOU MR. WOODMAN.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN BRADY? YOU KNOW, MR. WOODMAN, I, I'M NOT SURE IF I, I I MISSED THIS OR NOT, BUT I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO SEVEN STORES, BUT THERE'S THERE, IS THERE A HEIGHT AND FEET? IS THAT A HUNDRED FEET? 110.

120? WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE HEIGHT OF THE, HER HOTEL? OF THE HOTEL? YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS IN FEED, BUT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

I DON'T RECALL WHAT IT IS OFFHAND, BUT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

AND I'LL LOOK FOR THAT ANSWER TOO, JUST IN CASE.

CHANGE? UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT DOES.

THE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER REEVES, THE, UM, THE CHANGE IN, UM, THE HEIGHT, THE NUMBER OF STORIES AND THE CHANGE IN THE VARIANCE FOR THE USES, DID THAT GO THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION? THE, THE, UM, CHANGE OF CONDITION IN VARIANCE DID NOT GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION THERE.

THOSE, THAT TYPE OF REQUESTS, UM, CHANGE OF CONDITION, IT'S COUNCIL CONDITION THAT PUT THE CONDITIONS ON THE PROPERTY, SO IT'S ONLY REQUIRED TO GO TO COUNCIL.

AND THE VARIANCE AS WELL.

IF I HAD RECEIVED ALL THE APPLICATIONS AT THE VERY BEGINNING AS ONE APPLICATION FOR BOTH THE VERTI PORT AND HOTEL, IT WOULD'VE BEEN TREATED AS ONE APPLICATION AS IT IS RIGHT NOW.

AND BOTH, AND BOTH REQUESTS WOULD'VE GONE TO PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL.

COUNCILMAN HYPES.

MR. WOODMAN, WHAT, WHAT YEAR WAS THIS ORIGINALLY APPROVED? 2017.

THE NORTH WIND SUMMIT.

MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROVED.

THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD THE HOTEL HAS EXISTED SINCE 2017? CORRECT.

AND THERE WERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOTEL PREVIOUS TO THAT AS WELL? YES.

IF I READ THE STAFF REPORT CORRECTLY, UH, THE ZONING PROPOSAL IS SUPPORTED BY, UH, THE INCREASE IN HOTEL ROOMS AND BUILDING HEIGHTS RELATES TO THE ECONOMIC VIABILITY OF THE PROJECT ON GIVEN CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS.

THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANT STATED IN, IN THE APPLICATION.

AND IS, UH, CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS WHEN SOMETHING WAS APPROVED IN 2017, IS THAT A, DOES THAT SUPPORT A ZONING

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APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS, UH, AND THE MECHANICS OF GETTING IT ALL IN, IN ONE PIECE BECAUSE OF TIMING ISSUES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. WOODMAN? THANK YOU, SIR.

IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD, PLEASE SIGN.

I'M SORRY.

ASK A QUESTION.

YOU MAY ASK A QUESTION.

I APOLOGIZE.

I I THOUGHT WE WERE SEPARATED FROM THE, THE HOTEL OF VE AIRPORT.

UM, I JUST HAD A QUESTION.

I KNOW IN THE APPLICATION IT PROBABLY EASY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE VERA AIRPORT, THEY HAD VERA STOP IN THERE.

I GUESS KIND OF VE AIRPORT, BUT IT IS IN THE APPLICATION.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THIS IS A VE AIRPORT.

IT WILL NOT BE A VERA STOP.

IF VERA STOP THEN BECOMES A HELIPAD.

IS THAT KIND OF THE, THE, THE, THE GEORGIA REGULATIONS? IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, SO THE GEORGIA REGULATIONS HAVE SOME DEFINITIONS THAT WE, WE DON'T HAVE.

WE DO.

UM, I HAVE HEARD THE CON THE TERM VERTI STOP, AND I DID LOOK AT THAT AND ACTUALLY FOUND THIS EXHIBIT.

'CAUSE IT DOES ADDRESS VERTI PORT VERSUS VERTI STOP.

SO GENERALLY WE DON'T DEFINE VERTI STOP, BUT BASED ON MY RESEARCH, BASICALLY WHAT THAT IS, IS IT'S JUST ONE, A SINGLE LANDING PAD WITHOUT THE CHARGING, FUELING MAINTENANCE AREAS.

IT'S JUST ONE A LANDING PAD AT A LOCATION, MAYBE JUST A SINGLE ON A TOP OF A BUILDING.

THE VERTA PORT IS ACTUALLY WHERE YOU WILL HAVE A TERMINAL, UM, FOR CARGO OR PEOPLE, UH, UTILIZING THESE VEHICLES.

UH, THERE WOULD BE CHARGING, FUELING, UH, MAINTENANCE STORAGE TYPE FACILITIES AS WELL AS THE ACTUAL, UH, LANDING PADS.

OKAY, GREAT.

I JUST, I I SAW THE GEORGIA REGULATIONS.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT.

SO THANK YOU.

AND I WANNA APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I HAD NO IDEA THERE WAS SUCH A THING AS A .

SO I I THOUGHT YOU HAD MISPRONOUNCED DIDN'T I? I WAS WRONG.

SO I ALSO, I WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT OUR ATTORNEY HAS ADVISED US THAT BECAUSE IT WAS, THE APPLICATION WAS ADVERTISED AS BEING BOTH, WE CANNOT SEPARATE THEM HERE.

SO WE'LL BE VOTING ON THE APPLICATION AS IT WAS APPLIED AND AS ADVERTISED TO THE PUBLIC COUNSEL CAN MAKE CHANGES OR THERE ARE THINGS WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO, BUT WE CANNOT AT THIS TIME JUST DIVERGE THE TWO.

WE CANNOT AS A COUNCIL CORRECT.

SEPARATE THEM, CORRECT.

A AS SEPARATE ITEMS BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T ADVERTISED AS SEPARATE ITEMS. SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? EVEN THOUGH WE'RE VOTING ON BOTH OF THEM TONIGHT, WELL, IT'S ONE.

WELL, I UNDERSTAND IT'S ONE INCLUDING BOTH.

SAY LIKE AS LONG AS THEY WERE VOTED ON TONIGHT, WOULDN'T THAT, WOULDN'T THAT ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SINCE IT WAS ADVERTISED? AS LONG AS THEY'RE, AS LONG AS THEY'RE ACTUALLY VOTE BOTH ACCOMPLISHED VOTING ON BOTH OF THEM TONIGHT.

I THINK THAT IF YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION, YOU'D BE MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE EVERYTHING.

OR I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A, BUT NOT MAKE A MOTION.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A, BUT DENY B ALL IN THE SAME MOTION.

UM, I THINK THAT IS WHAT IS INTENDED TO, WOULD BE HOW TO ADDRESS KATHIE'S CONCERN ABOUT THE PROHIBITION OF THE 12 MONTHS, UM, WITHIN THE CODE.

SO YOU, YOU COULD, SO ARE, ARE THE APPLICANTS CLEAR ON NOW OF THAT AS CLEAR AS MAY? SO THAT IS HOW WE WILL PROCEED AT THIS POINT.

SO IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD, NOW'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UM, YOU'VE HEARD MY PITCH BEFORE.

MY NAME'S KERRY ARMSTRONG.

UH, I'M REPRESENTING PUBLIC LAND ENTERPRISES, THE MASTER APPLICANT FOR THE, UH, UH, THE PROJECT AND, AND, UH, AND SPECIFICALLY FOR THE NICES PURPOSES, THE VERTI PORT.

UH, I HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE VERTI PORT.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR THE TWO NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT WHAT THAT IS.

I THINK MICHAEL COVERED IT VERY WELL.

UH, I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A VERTA STOP WORD UNTIL ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO EITHER.

SO THIS IS AN INDUSTRY THAT IS, UM, UH, INVENTING ITSELF AS WE SPEAK.

UM, UH, WE ARE, UH, VERY SUPPORTIVE, OBVIOUSLY, OF THE VERTA PORT LANGUAGE AS WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE.

WE'RE ALSO VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE ADDITIONAL ROOMS TO THE HOTEL.

IT WILL MAKE IT A MORE SIGNIFICANT PROJECT, A MORE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT.

WE THINK IT WILL BE AN EVEN BETTER ENHANCEMENT TO OUR EXISTING AND PLANNED, UH, IMPROVEMENTS AT NORTH WIND SUMMIT.

SO WE'RE FULLY IN SUPPORT WHAT THEY OF, WHAT THEY WISH TO DO.

REPRESENTATIVES FROM CARRY , THE DEVELOPER OF THE HOTEL AND BUILDER ARE WITH ME, AND WE'LL HAVE THEM SPEAK IN A MOMENT.

BUT I WANTED TO SAY THAT, UH, WE

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THANK YOU FOR THAT SUPPORT.

UM, I WILL, UH, SHUT UP AND LET ANYBODY ASK ME QUESTIONS YOU'D LIKE TO ABOUT THE VER WELL, EITHER THING THAT YOU'D WANT TO, UH, OTHERWISE I'LL ASK, UM, UH, OUR FOLKS FROM CARRY OFF TO STEP UP AND TALK MORE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE HOTEL MAYOR PRO.

TIM, I BELIEVE YOU HAD A QUESTION.

YEAH, MR. ARMSTRONG, JUST SO, AND COUNCILMAN BRADY BRINGING IT UP.

TI PORTS THE NAME IS THE VER THE VERBIAGE WE'VE BEEN USING UP TO THIS POINT.

BUT AFTER THE CLARIFICATION FROM MR. WOODMAN, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH CONVERTING THIS TO VERTI STOP? UH, YEAH, THAT'S BECAUSE A VERTI PORT AS HE PRESENTED, WOULD INCLUDE FUELING, STORAGE, MAINTENANCE ALL AT THE SAME LOCATION VERSUS A VERTI SPOT WOULD BE A BUS STOP.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE MORE HAPPY WITH VER A PORT.

UH, REMEMBER WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUELING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHARGING, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT FUELS.

UNDERSTOOD.

UM, STORAGE BASICALLY MEANS IF ONE IS PARKED THERE OVERNIGHT, IS THAT STORAGE OR IS IT JUST PARKED THERE? WE THINK, AS I'VE SAID, THIS IS AN INDUSTRY, AN ENTERPRISE THAT IS INVENTING ITSELF AS IT GOES.

AND THERE'S NOT WIDESPREAD AGREEMENT ON TERMINOLOGY AND OPERATIONS.

UM, BUT WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH, UH, WITH THE WAY THIS HAS BEEN PRESENTED.

UM, AND SO IT'S PRESENTED AS STOP, DID WE PRESENT IT AS VER STOP, MICHAEL? OR AS REPORT? OKAY.

REPORT.

IT'S, UH, IF YOU TALK TO THE VISIONARIES ABOUT THIS, UH, WHOEVER CLAIMS TO BE ONE, UH, SOMEDAY WE IMAGINE THERE BEING, UH, IT'S BEEN DESCRIBED AS LILY PADS THROUGHOUT THE REGION IN THE STATE.

THESE WILL, THESE WILL EXIST.

SOME OF THEM WILL BE, UH, ELEVATED LIKE WE'RE PROPOSING.

SOME WILL BE SURFACE, SOME WILL BE BEFORE TO STOPS, SOME WILL BE ROAD PORTS, DIFFERENT LEVELS OF FACILITY, NOT UNLIKE DIFFERENT AIRPORTS AND LEVELS OF SERVICE, UH, THAT EXIST NOW.

UM, WE ARE, UH, OUR EFFORTS HAVE BEEN AROUND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE USING THE BEST INFORMATION AVAILABLE, UH, FROM, UH, THE VARIETY OF SOURCES, THE STATE CONVERSATION, GDO, FA, A, YOU NAME IT, UH, AND, UH, THE AIRLINES, UH, WE'RE TALKING TO EVERYBODY AND EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS IS GONNA WORK.

WHAT WE'RE SIMPLY TRYING TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT THIS SITE COULD BE ONE, WE THINK IT FITS VERY, VERY WELL AND WHAT THE OBJECTIVES WILL BE AND LENDS ITSELF WELL TO THE OPERATION OF A REPORT AND WOULD BE A TERRIFIC ASSET TO THE NORTHERN PART OF THE METRO AREA, PARTICULARLY IN GETTING TO, UH, UH, THE, UH, THE ATLANTA AIRPORT TO THE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS, UH, SOUTH OF HERE.

UH, WE JUST THINK IT'D BE A GREAT ASSET AND WE THINK IT WOULD ALSO BE ENHANCED BY ADDITIONAL CAPACITY IN THE HOTEL.

SYSTEM WHERE IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG, I THINK COUNCILMAN HYMES KNOWS ALL ABOUT THIS, PULL THE LEVER AND PARACHUTE DEPLOYS AND IT BRINGS IT DOWN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL ON THAT, ON THE DISCUSSION WITH THE VERTI REPORT? OKAY.

COUNCILMAN BRADY.

THIS, THIS IS JUST CURIOSITY IS FOR US TO KIND OF KNOW MORE, BUT I MEAN, FLIGHT PATTERNS AND THINGS LIKE THIS, YOU KIND OF DESIGNING IT JUST TO KIND OF BE GOING UP AND DOWN 400.

SO FLYING OVER RESIDENTIAL AREAS LIKE FOR SAFETY AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

I MEAN, JUST QUESTIONS WE WILL GET IN THE COMMUNITY.

SURE.

WHAT KIND OF HOURS OF OPERATION, HOW MANY FLY AT ONCE? IS IT GONNA BE A BEES NEST OF ACTIVITY? YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE THINGS YOU CAN IMAGINE PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND, UM, AND REALLY THE UTILITY OF IT.

SO IF YOU JUST FRAME THAT UP FOR US A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN, I'LL DO MY BEST IN CASE YOUR VISION AND ALSO JUST UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY.

ALL GOOD QUESTIONS AND ALL, ALL QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED AS WE BEGAN TO EXPLORE THIS.

UM, UH, FIRST OF ALL, IN TERMS OF THE, THE, THE COMMON QUESTION, THE FIRST QUESTION WE ASK IS, WHAT ABOUT THE NOISE? WELL, THESE THINGS ARE NOT NOISY.

UH, I'VE HEARD RECORDINGS.

I DON'T THINK THEY WERE FUDGED.

UH, I'M TOLD THAT, UH, TAKEOFF AND LANDING, IT'S ROUGHLY THE EQUIVALENT OF A RESIDENTIAL VACUUM CLEANER.

THEY'RE ELECTRIC MOTORS.

THERE'S SIX PROPELLERS RATHER THAN TWO SMALLER PROPELLERS.

UM, AND, UH, I'M WILLING TO TAKE THE EXPERTS AT THIS POINT, AT THEIR WORD ON THAT IN TERMS OF SAFETY BECAUSE OF THE MULTIPLE, UH, ENGINES AND PROPELLERS, THE FACT THAT THERE IS AN AIR FOIL INCORPORATED IN THE DESIGN OF LIKE A HELICOPTER, THEY ARE SAFER, UH, EASIER TO OPERATE, UH, LESS EXPENSIVE TO OPERATE AS WELL, OF COURSE.

UM, THE DESIGNS THAT I HAVE SEEN ALL INCORPORATE A CIRRUS PARACHUTE, UH, IN EACH VEHICLE, UH, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BIG VEHICLES.

THE BIGGEST I'VE SEEN, UH, IN, IN THIS CATEGORY IS SIX PASSENGERS IN A PILOT.

THEY ARE PILOTED, THEY'RE NOT AUTONOMOUS SELF-DRIVING.

UM, AND IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH SIRIUS, UM, UH, PARACHUTES, THERE'S AN AIRCRAFT CALLED A SEARS, AND THEY PERFECTED THIS

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WHOOPS.

UM, DON'T WANT TO BE THERE WHEN IT HAPPENS OR IN IT, BUT, UH, I'M, I'VE, UH, SEEN THE VIDEOS AND I BELIEVED IT AND TALKED TO PEOPLE WHO BEEN IN THAT SITUATION.

SO SAFETY IS A BIG PART OF IT.

UH, THIS IS NOT A TOY FOR RICH PEOPLE.

THE DESIGN PARAMETERS ARE FOR, UH, A RIDE TO ROUGHLY COST THE SIZE, UH, COST ABOUT AS MUCH AS AN UBER XL NOW.

SO IT'S NOT CHEAP, BUT IF YOU WANT TO GET TO THE AIRPORT IN 20 MINUTES INSTEAD OF AN HOUR AND 20 MINUTES, UM, THERE YOU GO.

SO, UM, FOR LANDING AND TAKEOFF PADS, WHAT I'M TOLD IS, UH, AND AGAIN, THE OPERATING COMPANIES ARE IN FORMATION.

NOW, WHAT I'M TOLD IS THERE'S TO BE, UH, FOUR VEHICLES ACTUALLY ON THE ROOFTOP OR ON THE, ON THE VERTI PORT, UH, NEVER TO TAKING OFF IT OR LANDING AT THE SAME TIME.

AND IMPORTANTLY, THE FAA HAS ALREADY DESIGNATED GEORGIA 400 AS A, AS AN AIR TAXI CORRIDOR.

AND IF YOU NOTICE, TWO SIDES OF THIS PROJECT ARE OVER PUBLIC, RIGHT OF WAY, PUBLICLY OWNED, RIGHT OF WAY.

SO THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO FLY OVER ANY PUBLIC, UH, LAND.

SO THE ACQUISITION OF THE RIGHT OF WAY IS VIRTUALLY ASSURED.

THE F-A-I-F-A-A IS OBVIOUSLY IN THE DISCUSSION IN A BIG WAY AND WE'RE TAKING OUR GUIDANCE FROM ALL THE SMART PEOPLE THAT WE CAN.

I HOPE I, THAT WAS A BROAD QUESTION.

I HOPE I GOT SOME OF NO, I'M, I'M, IT'S AMAZING.

IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY UNIQUE.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FRAMING IT UP.

MY PLEASURE.

SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL ABOUT THE VER DEPORTE PORTION OF THIS CASE? THANK YOU, SIR.

YOU HOTEL YOURS, DO YOUR JOB.

YOU'RE UP.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, I'M CLINT HERRING WITH CARRYOUT CORPORATION.

I'M PRESIDENT AND CEO OF AUTH AND GABRIEL HERRING'S HERE WITH ME AND BRIAN NETS THERE.

AND, UH, SINCE MR. BRADY, YOU ASKED A QUESTION ON HEIGHT.

I THINK BRIAN'S PROBABLY ALREADY GOTTEN THAT.

BRIAN, WHAT IS THE, WHAT WAS THE HEIGHT? 88 TO 97.

97.

90 97 TO EIGHT, INTERESTINGLY, JUST 'CAUSE IT'S SIDEBAR, I WANT TO GET THAT QUESTION OUT OF THE WAY.

THE, THE, UM, IT'S ACTUALLY SPLIT LEVEL BECAUSE THE BUILDING'S ON THAT SLOPE GOING DOWN SUMMIT BOULEVARD.

SO IT'S REALLY NOT A FULL SEVEN STORY.

PART OF THE BUILDING IS ON THAT SLOPE, BUT THAT IS THE HIGHEST ELEVATION THAT, THAT THE BUILDING IS.

UM, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR RESCHEDULING THIS.

UM, EVERYBODY WENT THROUGH A STORM.

UH, WE WERE IN JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI HEADQUARTERED THERE AND, AND, UM, WE GOT A LOT OF ICE AND POWER OUTAGES.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THINGS TURNED OUT FOR ATLANTA, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR RESCHEDULING.

UM, THE, UM, THE BUILDING, UM, WAS, WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED AN LDP ON THE PROJECT, I DON'T KNOW, ABOUT MAYBE 12 LONGER THAN THAT, 12, 18 MONTHS AGO.

AND, AND, UM, THE, THE, THE BUILDING WAS, IS DESIROUS OF BEING A BOUTIQUE HOTEL.

AND THE, AND THE NET OF THE PROJECT WAS, IS THAT WHEN WE GOT THROUGH EVERYTHING AND FINALIZED WHAT WE WERE DOING ON THE PROJECT, WE WANTED TO BE SURE THAT WE WERE MAINTAINING A HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICE AND DID THE THINGS THAT WERE NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN THE HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICE.

SO THE EXTRA 25 ROOMS THAT WE'RE ADDING REALLY BRINGS, BRINGS ABOUT ECONOMICS THAT ALLOW US TO, TO DELIVER THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL FOUR STAR QUALITY THAT WE WANT TO DEVELOP WITH THE HOTEL.

THE, WHAT CARRIE WAS BRINGING UP ABOUT THE VERTI PORT, THAT'S A BONUS TO ALL OF US IN TERMS OF THE EXTRA ROOMS THAT WOULD BE THERE.

CLEARLY IF THAT GOES ON, IT WOULD LONG-TERM BENEFIT THE HOTEL FROM AN OCCUPANCY PERSPECTIVE.

UM, IT'S NOT NECESSARY FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE HOTEL.

UM, THE, THE OCCUPANCY AND THE ECONOMICS OF THE HOTEL AND THE NEED FOR, FOR THE ROOMS ARE THERE.

UM, AND SO WITH THAT, WHAT I THOUGHT I WOULD DO, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN, WHICH WAS A GREAT STAFF REPORT, IF YOU WANNA SEE ANYTHING MORE, GABRIEL'S GONNA GO THROUGH A SLIDE SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE DID ON THE HOTEL.

UM, ESSENTIALLY ALL WE DID WAS TAKE WHAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED BY LDP AND THE DRB AND ADDED A FLOOR TO IT.

THAT'S EFFECTIVELY WHAT HAPPENED SO THAT WE COULD TAKE THE ECONOMICS OF THE ADDITIONAL ROOM TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT WE WANT.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL LET GABRIEL GO THROUGH A FEW SLIDES HERE AND THEN, UH, ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

UM, THE EFI TOPIC, UM, I'VE BEEN IN THE DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS NOW FOR 48 YEARS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I WE'RE BUILDER DEVELOPER OWNER OPERATORS, AND ONE THING WE'VE LEARNED IN THE MARKET, TWO THINGS HAVE HAPPENED THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT WITH, WITH, UH, COATINGS AND SKINS ON BUILDINGS.

THE ENERGY CODE HAS COME ABOUT NOW AND REALLY IT, IT,

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IT BRINGS ABOUT THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL INSTALLATION ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE SKIN IN ORDER TO MEET THE ENERGY CODE.

AND THEN SECONDLY, WITH THE TRADES, THE WAY THINGS HAPPEN TODAY, STUCCO HAS INFINITE, I MEAN, IT'S JUST UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT OF PENETRATIONS ON THE BUILDING.

AND SO WE HAVE LEARNED OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME THAT THAT EFIS IS A BETTER OPTION FOR TALL BUILDINGS WHERE YOU HAVE SO MANY PENETRATIONS WITH DRY AND RAIN GOING THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE SKIN OF THE BUILDING.

AND THAT IS INDIVIDUALLY THE SOLE REASON.

IN FACT, YEAH, I GREW UP IN THE SOUTH AND THEN IN OUT WEST IN ARIZONA, AND I ACTUALLY AS A KID, MIXED STUCCO AND APPLIED STUCCO AND HIDE TO BUILDINGS.

WELL, IN, IN TODAY'S WORLD, IT'S NOT AS GOOD ON ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND IT'S VERY PROBLEMATIC ON FUTURE PENETRATIONS.

AND SO WE MADE THE REQUEST FOR A REASON THAT WE KNOW LONG TERM IT'S A BETTER PRODUCT FROM A MAINTENANCE PERSPECTIVE ON WATER INFILTRATION.

UM, WE DO A LOT OF MASTER PLAN MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

IN FACT, IN A LOT OF MANY OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS, WE SAID STUCCO ONLY AND WE ENDED UP CHANGING THAT.

AND WE'RE VERY PARTICULAR ABOUT EXECUTION OF REALLY GOOD WORK ON ALL PROJECTS THAT WE DO.

BUT WE JUST LEARNED OVER TIME THAT THOSE INTERMITTENT SPOTS THAT HAPPEN TURN INTO SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL WITH IT.

AND SO THAT'S THE REASON WE MADE THE DECISION THAT WE THINK WHEN YOU ADD UP THE ENERGY CODE AND THE FACT THAT WATER PENETRATION'S BETTER WITH A DRAINABLE EVES, IT'S JUST A BETTER WAY TO GO.

AND THEN THAT'S THE REASON WE ARE REQUESTING IT.

UM, SO ANYWAY, WITH THAT I'LL LET GABRIEL GO OVER SOME SLIDES AND THEN I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE PROJECT GABRIEL.

UM, I KNOW THE STAFF HAS INFORMED Y'ALL VERY WELL ON, ON THE PROJECT AND, AND, UH, IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A LITTLE WHILE, SO YOU PROBABLY HAVE A, A FAIR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE AC BRAND ASPIRES TO BE.

UM, WE DID PRINT OUT AND, UH, Y'ALL HAVE JUST A, A BRIEF PRINTOUT THAT WAS PROVIDED BY, UM, OUR INTERIOR DESIGN TEAM THAT'S REALLY JUST INTENDED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A REFLECTION OF, OF QUALITY AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO EXECUTE OUTTA THE BRAND.

UM, MARRIOTT TAKES A LOT OF PRIDE IN THIS BRAND AND, AND, UH, THEY ACTUALLY, UH, UM, HAVE DONE A, HAVE BEEN A GREAT PARTNER OF OURS AND, AND, UH, WE'VE APPRECIATED WORKING WITH THEM.

THEY HAVE HIGH STANDARDS, WE HAVE HIGH STANDARDS, AND SO IT'S BEEN A, IT'S BEEN A GREAT THING FOR US.

UM, UH, I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK.

I DON'T WANNA WASTE EVERYBODY'S TIME WITH THINGS THEY MAY ALREADY KNOW.

UM, BUT THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW IS THIS PRODUCT DIFFERENT? WHAT IS IT APPEALING TO? WHY DO WE NEED IT IN OUR CITY? UM, I THINK THAT IT'S ACTUALLY A, UH, A GREAT FIT FOR ALPHARETTA BECAUSE OF WHAT ALPHARETTA IS TODAY AND WHAT IT'S ASPIRING TO BE.

UM, Y'ALL SPEAK TO AN AFFLUENT CLIENTELE.

UH, YOU DO SPEAK TO OTHERS AS WELL, BUT, BUT Y'ALL ARE KNOWN FOR PRODUCING GOOD WORK AND, UH, AND A GOOD PRODUCT.

AND I THINK IT SHOWS IN THE, THE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY THAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GENERATE HERE.

UM, TO THAT POINT, UM, THE AC IS, IS, UH, CONSIDERED A FOUR STAR ACCOMMODATION.

UH, IT IS IN THE BOUTIQUE LINE THAT, UH, MARRIOTT HAS.

UH, IT'S A VERY, VERY DESIRABLE PRODUCT FOR, UM, BUSINESS TRAVELERS.

UM, UH, IT'S LOCATED IN PREMIUM MARKETS, MEANING THE AC IS TYPICALLY NOT LOCATED IN IN B MARKETS, IT'S LOCATED IN A MARKETS.

UM, AND IT'S ONE OF, UH, MARRIOTT'S, UM, KIND OF NEWEST BOUTIQUE BRANDS.

IT'S EXPANDING DRAMATICALLY VERY QUICKLY, UM, INTERNATIONALLY AND, UH, DOMESTICALLY.

UH, I WANTED TO KIND OF DRAW A BRIEF COMPARISON TO KIND OF HOW WE VIEW, UH, THE AC UP AGAINST, UH, OTHER PROPERTIES AND OTHER HOTELS THAT ARE IN, IN THE TOWN OR IN THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA.

UM, THE CURRENT LANDSCAPE, UH, HOTEL AVALON, Y'ALL OBVIOUSLY KNOW THAT VERY WELL.

UH, THE HILTON ALPHARETTA, WHICH IS, UH, KIND OF A NEWER PROPERTY.

UM, WE'RE ALL, I'LL CONSIDER IT NEW.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S LOCATED, IT'S, IT'S QUALITY WISE.

WHY, WHY I LISTED THAT HERE IS THE, THE INTERIOR FINISHES, THE QUALITY, THE KIND OF CUSTOMER BASE THAT, THAT YOU MIGHT EXPECT TO BE AT THAT HILTON, UH, IS SIMILAR, OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT DEMAND THERE.

OKAY? THAT'S, THAT, THAT PROPERTY IS, IS, UH, I MEAN WE WERE, WE WENT BY THERE TODAY ACTUALLY.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, UH, HAVING CONFERENCES THERE AND THAT KIND OF THING.

SO IT'S A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT USER, UH, THAN, THAN WE WOULD HAVE.

THE HAMILTON IS A PURE BOUTIQUE HOTEL.

UM, OUR CUSTOMERS WOULD PROBABLY BE, BE SIMILAR PROBABLY TO, TO SOME FOLKS THAT WOULD STAY AT THE, UH, AT THE HAMILTON.

WE THINK THAT WE'RE, OUR LOCATION IN NORTH WINDS IS, UH, MORE IDEAL FOR THE BUSINESS TRAVELER COMING IN, WANTING TO DO BUSINESS IN ALPHARETTA, MAYBE NOT WANTING TO GET TIED INTO WHAT'S GOING ON IN DOWNTOWN A LITTLE BIT, POSSIBLY.

THAT'S WHAT MOST, MOST ACS THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING AFTER.

UM, BUT STILL SEEKING A HIGH END EXPERIENCE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO OFFER, UH, WITH AC AND

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UM, LITTLE BIT ON THE NORTH WIND SIDE OF THINGS, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T JUST LAND THERE.

UM, WE THOUGHT IT WAS IDEALLY LOCATED, UH, FOR THE, UH, THE CUSTOMER THAT TENDS TO BE AT THE AC.

UM, JUST OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THAT PRODUCT, UM, THE VISIBILITY OF IT THERE, WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE AN AWESOME SHOWCASE PIECE, RIGHT? WHEN YOU PULL IN OFF OF, OFF OF, UH, GEORGIA 400, YOU'RE GONNA BASICALLY SEE IT RIGHT WHEN YOU PULL IN.

UM, THE, UH, THE OTHER THING TO NOTE, UM, AND, AND CERTAINLY THERE'S SOME SENSITIVITY TO THIS, AND I'M SORRY, IF YOU COULD PAUSE FOR ONE SECOND.

I'M, UH, MAYOR, THE 10 MINUTES OF THE INITIAL TIME FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS ELAPSED.

SO AT THIS TIME IT WOULD BE UP TO THE COUNCIL AS TO WHETHER OR NOT TO EXTEND THE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO I'D ASK FOR A MOTION AND A VOTE ON A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU'D LIKE TO EXTEND FOR BOTH SIDES.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE TIME? MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE TIME.

SECOND, BUT I'M SORRY, BY HOW, HOW LONG? FIVE MINUTES ENOUGH.

I'VE GOT TWO SLOT.

WE'RE ALMOST DONE.

FIVE MINUTES MAX.

TRY TO BE MOTION IS FOR FIVE MINUTES.

SORRY, I GOT A LITTLE RB ALL.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HYS, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO.

TIM, ANY DISCUSSION? DO WE NEED TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT? NO, SIR.

SIR.

I DON'T SEE ANYONE RUNNING FORWARD ANYWAY, SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO EXTEND FOR FIVE MINUTES, PLEASE VOTE YES AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

PLEASE PROCEED.

THANK Y'ALL.

UM, THAT'S WHY WE PAY ATTORNEYS.

UH, YOU KNOW, JUST TO FINISH UP THIS SLIDE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE RECOGNIZE THERE'S, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, UH, SEVERAL EXTENDED STAY AND SELECT SERVICE HOTELS THAT ARE IN THE MARKET.

UM, SOME OF THOSE ARE AGING.

THERE ARE SOME NEWER ONES.

AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO JUST JUST POINT OUT THAT, THAT THE AC IS HITTING A FOUR STAR CATEGORY.

OKAY? THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST DIFFERENTIATING FACTOR IS THAT THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AFTER AND THAT'S WHAT IT DOES.

UM, HOTEL COMPARISON, I KIND OF ALREADY WENT THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT.

MOST OF THIS IS JUST FACTS FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND AND SEE, BUT UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, HIGHLIGHTING THERE, THERE'S SOME IMAGERY HERE THAT'S THAT'S, THAT'S FOUND IN THIS, THIS, UH, PRINTOUT THAT I GAVE YOU.

BUT, UM, JUST TRYING TO DRAW A COMPARISON ON QUALITY AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO EXECUTE OUT OF THAT PRODUCT.

UM, CLINT ALLUDED TO THIS JUST A MINUTE AGO, A LITTLE BIT, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO, UH, DIFFERENTLY WITH THE AC UH, WE INCREASE THE, UH, UM, UH, THE KITCHEN SIZE AND WHAT WE CAN PRODUCE OUT OF IT SO IT CAN PRODUCE A SLIGHT A, UH, A, A MORE DIVERSE MENU.

UM, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THING THAT THAT KIND OF, UH, THAT WE DO TO UP THE ANTE A LITTLE BIT ON THIS, ON THIS PARTICULAR, UH, PROPERTY.

UM, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST SUMMARY.

WE THINK IT'S IDEALLY LOCATED FOR THE BUSINESS TRAVELER SEEKING CONVENIENT HIGH-END AMENITIES AND A BOUTIQUE AESTHETIC.

UH, WE ALSO FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT WHAT IT DOES FOR NORTH WIND SUMMIT.

IT KIND OF ANCHORS THAT CORNER.

WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S A GREAT THING FOR NOT JUST OUR PROPERTY, NOT JUST NORTH WINDS, BUT FOR THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA AS A WHOLE.

UM, AND ANYWAY, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS BECOME GATHERING PLACES AND WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE THAT FOR THE NORTH WINDS DEVELOPMENT TOO.

UM, THAT'S JUST WHAT WE'VE WITNESSED AND SEEN IN SOME OF OUR OTHER PROPERTIES.

SO WITH THAT, I AM FINISHED WITH THAT PRESENTATION.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANTS? COUNCILMAN HYPES? I APOLOGIZE UP FRONT.

I I FORGOT YOUR NAME.

I APOLOGIZE GABRIEL.

SORRY.

YES SIR.

WHAT, WHAT'S THE CONFERENCE ROOM CAPACITY FOR THE HOTEL? ARE THEY MEETING ROOMS? ARE THEY BIGGER? UH, UH, YOU KNOW, BALLROOMS, UH, WHAT'S YOUR BIGGEST CONFERENCE SPACE? I WANT, DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S IN MY PLANS AND I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME TO, TO DO THAT.

I THINK IT'S 75 IS THE LARGEST CONFERENCE ROOM THAT WE HAVE.

UM, AND THOSE ARE INTENDED TO BE CRAFTED TO KIND OF A SMALLER TYPE MEETING, OBVIOUSLY.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE BIG CONFERENCES AT, AT THIS FACILITY.

UM, IT IS REALLY CATERED TOWARDS BUSINESS ACTIVITY.

MOST OF THOSE BUSINESS ACTIVITIES ARE NOT, NOT SUPER BIG MEETINGS.

SO YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH HOTEL AVALON, SO THIS THAT'S CORRECT.

YOU'RE NOT HOSTING WEDDINGS INSIDE YOUR, UH, IF IT WAS, IT WOULD BE SUPER SMALL.

SEE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT EVERYBODY WAS CLASSIFYING IT AS.

UM, I CAN'T LET THIS GO WITHOUT ASKING.

AC IS A MARRIOTT BRAND.

YES, SIR.

Y'ALL CONSIDER THE MARRIOTT ON WINDWARD A FOUR STAR HOTEL.

THAT WAS, THAT WAS REALLY CURIOUS THERE.

AND IF YOU DON'T THAT'S FINE.

YEAH, I, I I HURT MY FEELINGS.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT YOUR CRITERIA IS.

BASICALLY SEARCHING ONLINE TO

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AND, UH, AND CERTAINLY THE NEWER PROPERTY WOULD, WOULD PROBABLY HIT THAT MARK, BUT JUST BASED ON THE AGE AND DURATION, SOME OF THOSE FOUR STAR PREVIOUSLY FOUR STAR HOTELS ARE KIND OF SLIDING DOWN THE SCALE.

WE WERE PRESENTED WITH A CHOICE BETWEEN HARD COAT STUCCO AND EFIS, BUT WHAT WASN'T PRESENTED AS A CHOICE FOR THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING WERE ANY OF THE OTHER PERMITTED EXTERIORS THAT ARE IN OUR CODE, SUCH AS NATURAL STONE, CEMENT BASED PANELS.

UH, THERE'S HARD COAT STUCCO, MANUFACTURED STONE BRICK.

WHY IS IT THESE ARE OUR ONLY TWO CHOICES TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S APPROVED BY OUR CODE HARD COAT STUCCO OR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT APPROVED BY OUR CODE WHEN THERE'S ALL THESE OTHER OPTIONS AS WELL.

THE, ON THAT NOTE, WE DO THE, THE LARGE PORTION OF THE BUILDING'S BRICK VENEER.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND SO, AND, AND, UM, AND THEN WE HAVE SOME, UH, A CM MATERIAL ON THE BUILDING.

WHEN WE ORIGINALLY CAME THROUGH WITH THE DESIGN THAT WENT TO LDP AND DRB, THE, UM, THAT WE HAD CEMENT STUCCO BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE AESTHETICALLY THAT THAT LOOK WAS A GOOD LOOK FOR THE HOTEL.

AND THEN WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND, AND RENDERED THE OPINION THAT I MENTIONED TO YOU AND WHY WE DID FOR EFAS, WE DIDN'T CHANGE GLOBALLY.

'CAUSE ESSENTIALLY WE'VE JUST TAKEN THE BUILDING UP A FLOOR.

WE DIDN'T WANNA RE-LITIGATE, NOT THAT IT WAS LITIGATING TERRITORY, BUT WE DIDN'T WANNA RE-LITIGATE CHANGING THE ENTIRE BUILDING.

WE KEPT WITH THE SAME THEME THAT, THAT WE HAD GONE THROUGH WITH DRB FROM THE BEGINNING.

AND WHEN WE, AND WHEN WE DID, WE JUST SIMPLY CAME AND SAID, YOU KNOW, CAN WE USE EFIS FOR THIS SECTION? AND, AND THAT, AND I GAVE YOU THE REASONS WHY WE DID THAT.

SO EVERYBODY CITY WAS VERY PLEASED WITH THE DESIGN THAT WE CAME THROUGH WITH IN THE BEGINNING.

WE COULD EXECUTE SEA AT STUCCO.

WE JUST, HONESTLY, AS A, AS AN OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, AND AS I MENTIONED TO YOU, I'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS NOW.

IF YOU LOOK AT ME AND SAY, CLINT, WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH THE BUILDING? AND WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE DO WITH THE BUILDING FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY? WE WOULD, WE WOULD USE, UH, EFIS AS OPPOSED TO THE CEMENT STUCCO.

BUT DOES IT, IS IT, BUT IT DOESN'T EFFECTIVELY CHANGE THE LOOK OF THE BUILDING.

IT JUST, IT MAKES IT BETTER FROM AN ENERGY CODE PERSPECTIVE AND FROM A LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE PERSPECTIVE.

AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN THE COLOR AND TEXTURE AND THE APPEARANCE.

I, YOU KNOW, MY QUESTION IS, YOU WENT FOR SOMETHING THAT'S, THERE'S A LONG LIST IN THE CODE OF AVAILABLE PRODUCTS, BUT YOU WENT FOR SOMETHING THAT WASN'T IN THE CODE AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS OF YOUR THINKING.

SO, UH, YEAH, WE, AND WE, WE ESSENTIALLY DID IT TO STAY WITH THE SAME LOOK THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

UM, DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF THE VOTE, UH, IF WE APPROVE WHAT YOU'VE PRESENTED, ARE YOU STILL AGREEABLE TO BE BOUND BY, UH, THE DB'S, YOU KNOW, DESIGN, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEY SAY ON THE DESIGN AND, AND, AND THE LOOK? YES.

UH, UH, I KNOW THIS IS DEEP IN THE WEEDS, BUT THE CODE SAYS THERE'S, THERE'S A MAXIMUM OF THREE EXTERIOR COLORS AND YOU'RE LIKE, GOT FOUR OR FIVE EXTERIOR COLORS, UH, AROUND THE BUILDING.

SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU, YOU KNOW, IF THE DRB COMES BACK AND SAYS, NO, WE WANT TO DO WHAT IT SAYS HERE, Y'ALL ARE OKAY.

THAT, WITH THAT, YES, SIR.

THE INTERESTINGLY, DRB WAS, WAS VERY COLLABORATIVE WITH THIS PROCESS WITH US.

MM-HMM .

SO MUCH OF THE OUTCOME WITH THE BUILDING WAS A DIRECT RESULT OF INPUT FROM THE DRB AND, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE COLORS, BUT, BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY WILLING TO BE COMPLIANT WITH WHAT THE DARB, IF THERE WERE SOME CHOICE AS A RESULT AND THEY WANNA RE-LOOK AT THAT, THEN WE'D BE PERFECTLY FINE WITH THAT.

AND THE REQUEST FOR THE ADDITIONAL FLOOR AND IT AND THE ADDITIONAL 25 ROOMS, IT'S, IT'S IN THE PACKET IN THE APPLICATION.

IT'S, IT'S DRIVEN BY ECONOMICS.

AND IS THAT BECAUSE THE ECONOMICS HAVE CHANGED SINCE, UH, THE ORIGINAL HOTEL WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2017? UM, I MEAN, IT, IT IS DRIVEN BY ECONOMICS AND, AND THAT I MENTIONED TO YOU THAT EFFECTIVELY IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE WANT TO PROVIDE, WE KNOW THAT WE NEED THE ROOM COUNT TO GO UP.

LEMME ASK A QUESTION DIFFERENTLY.

IF YOU BUILT IT IN 2017 WHEN IT WAS APPROVED AND YOU'D RUN ALL YOUR NUMBERS, COULD YOU HAVE BILL IT WITH THOSE CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND, AND PROVIDED THE LEVEL OF SERVICE YOU WANTED TO WHEN YOU GOT WHAT YOU ASKED FOR? ULTIMATELY, PROBABLY NOT BACK IN THAT PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME, BECAUSE AT THAT, AT THAT TIME WE HADN'T, YOU KNOW, WE HAD ESTIMATED IT, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE FINAL NUMBERS AT THAT TIME.

BUT WHAT, WHAT WE'VE LEARNED WITH THE AC SINCE 'CAUSE WE OWN OTHER ACS, IS THAT THE, THE ROOM COUNT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THE LEVEL OF SERVICE UP BECAUSE YOUR BOUTIQUE

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PART OF THE DEAL.

WHEN WE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE, GABRIEL MENTIONED THAT WE ENLARGED THE, THE KITCHEN, WE LEARNED THAT WE WANT TO DRIVE MORE SERVICE THROUGH BOUTIQUE.

AND SO WHILE WE MAY HAVE DONE IT, THE ECONOMICS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN WHAT THEY NEED TO BE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT, THAT WE EXPECT OUT OF IT AS AN ASSET.

AND THEN I THINK THE CITY DID.

AND THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE BOUTIQUE HOTEL WRITTEN IN YOUR, IN WHAT YOU HAVE FOR NORTH WINDS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN REEVES? I NOTICED THAT YOU SAID THAT, UM, THAT THE FOUR STAR HOTELS THAT YOU LOOKED AT HAD AN, UH, 85% OCCUPANCY RATE.

AND I WAS WONDERING IF THIS IS, IF THIS IS THE, IF THIS IS TARGETED TO THE BUSINESS TRAVELER, AREN'T THERE A LOT OF PRODUCTS THAT ARE TARGETING THE BUSINESS TRAVEL OR OUTSIDE THAT? LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S FAIRFIELD INN ON WEB BRIDGE THAT JUST OPENED, AND I MEAN, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF ROOMS THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT THERE, UM, AND THE ADDITION OF ROOMS IF THERE'S THAT MUCH DEMAND.

SO THAT'S, I GUESS THAT'S JUST A, IT'S JUST A CURIOSITY, CURIOSITY QUESTION.

THE, THE DEMAND GENERATORS LOOK GOOD.

AND THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THE AC BECAUSE OF WHAT IT IS, GABRIEL COMMENTED THAT IT'S A CONGREGATING LOCATION.

IT IT, AND IT, IT DOES AN INTERESTING JOB OF HOW IT, IT CATERS TO A BUSINESS TRAVELER TOGETHER WITH LEISURE TRAVELER AT THE SAME TIME.

AND SO WHILE IT IS PREDOMINANTLY BUSINESS TRAVELER, IT PICKS UP A GOOD, GOOD SUBSET OF, UH, LEISURE TRAVELER.

ALSO, A LOT OF THE, THE ROOM ISSUES IN THE SMALL CONFERENCE ROOMS ARE SORT OF TEAMING SPACES AND THEY GET USED FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS.

AND, UM, SO WE WE'RE, WE DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A CHALLENGE WITH ROOM DEMAND FOR THE PRODUCT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

SO ALL OUR TIME IS EXPIRED, RIGHT? SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITIES AT THIS POINT.

THERE'S WITHOUT THREE MINUTES LEFT IN FAVOR, IF ANYONE ELSE WANTED TO SPEAK.

SO WE HAVE THREE MINUTES AVAILABLE IF ANYONE WANTS TO TALK IN FAVOR FOR THREE MINUTES.

I DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD.

SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNSEL? YES, SIR.

MR. MAYOR, I A, HOLD ON.

HOLD ON.

MS. SWIN IS, I'M SORRY.

DUE PROCESS REQUIRES US TO ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE IN OPPOSITION THAT, IF THERE'S ANYONE IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE COME FORWARD NOW, STILL DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING.

SO WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANKS.

UM, AND THE, THE OCCUPANCY RATE IS 63% SINCE, UH, JULY 1ST, 2000, UH, 25, THE PROCEEDING YEAR, JULY ONE OF 24 TO JUNE 30 OF 25.

WE'LL ENTERTAIN YOUR MOTION NOW.

I APOLOGIZE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I OFFER A MOTION THIS EVENING TO PRESENT APPROVAL OF PH DASH 26 DASH ZERO THREE SLASH MP SLASH TWO FIVE SLASH ZERO FIVE SLASH CU DASH 25 DASH SEVEN SLASH V DASH 2061 AC HOTEL AND VERTA PORT NORTH WIND SUMMIT AS PRESENTED THIS EVENING.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PROM.

A SECOND I COUNT.

WELL, LEMME SAY AT THE OUTSET, UH, I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE, WE DO HAVE, AND HAVE HAD SINCE 2017 AN AC HOTEL, UH, AT NORTH WIND SUMMIT IN OUR CITY.

AND I'M, I'M, I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE THAT AND, UH, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD THING.

IT'S, UM, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT BOTH OF THESE ITEMS HAVE TO BE VOTED ON AT THE SAME TIME.

AND DEPENDING UPON THE OUTCOME OF THIS, UH, PARTICULAR MOTION, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, SUPPORT THE VERTA PORT AND DENY THE HOTEL REQUEST.

BUT, UH, THAT'S NOT HOW IT'S BEEN PRESENTED.

SO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO SEE WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THE, THE PENDING MOTION IS.

UM, I, I MEAN, I JUST HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT OUR, UH, HOTEL OCCUPANCY IN THE CITY IS, UH, FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS, IT'S 63%.

WE HAVE 4,105 HOTEL ROOMS IN THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA.

AC WILL ADD ONE 40, OR IT MAY ADD 1 65 TO THAT TOTAL.

BUT EVERY NIGHT WE'VE GOTTA FILL, AS WE SIT HERE TONIGHT, WE HAVE TO FILL 4,105 HOTEL ROOMS.

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IT WAS, UH, FOR THAT YEAR, 66% OCCUPANCY.

AND THE REVENUE PER AVAILABLE ROOM HAS YET TO RECOVER TO PRE COVID LEVELS.

AND OF COURSE, THAT'S THE MEASURE ALL HOTELIERS ARE MOST INTERESTED IN.

SO WHEN I SEE A HOTEL THAT DOESN'T PROVIDE DISTINGUISHING FACTORS LIKE LARGE CONFERENCE ROOMS, ET CETERA, UH, THERE, THERE RUNS THE RISK OF BEING THE 10.

THE TENDENCY IS TO TAKE ROOMS FROM EXISTING INVENTORY TO THE NEWER INVENTORY, THEREBY DIMINISHING OUR EXISTING HOTELS THAT WE HAVE DECREASING REVPAR, UH, AND MAKING IT A MORE DIFFICULT HOTEL ENVIRONMENT FOR THOSE IN ALL OF ALPHARETTA.

AND I LOVE AC HOTEL, I LOVE NORTH WIND SUMMIT, BUT, UH, I'M SITTING UP HERE TO REPRESENT ALL OF ALPHARETTA.

UM, AND IT WOULD GIVEN THOSE FIGURES, WHICH ARE THE FIGURES FOR, UH, ALPHARETTA, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE HOPEFUL.

WE HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT GOOD THINGS WILL HAPPEN AT NORTH POINT.

UH, IF SUCH THINGS HAPPEN, WE HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER HOTEL, AT LEAST ONE AT NORTH POINT.

UH, WE HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THERE COULD BE AS MUCH AS 160 ADDITIONAL ROOMS OR MORE, UH, ACROSS THE FREEWAY FROM THIS HOTEL.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE REQUEST IS FOR 25 ADDITIONAL ROOMS, AND OVER THE COURSE OF ONE YEAR, THAT'S 9,125 RESERVATIONS, ADDITIONAL RESERVATIONS FOR THE AC HOTEL THAT WOULD DIMINISH SURROUNDING HOTELS.

NOW, WHAT I'M TROUBLED BY, AND I WANNA GET OUT IS THIS WAS APPROVED IN 2017.

DECISIONS WERE MADE BY OTHER HOTEL INVESTORS AND BY COUNCIL IN SOME INSTANCES TO APPROVE HOTELS.

OR HOTELS WERE BUILT AS A MATTER OF RIGHT, KNOWING THAT THERE WOULD BE 140 ROOMS AT THIS LOCATION.

BUT I WAS DEEPLY TROUBLED.

UH, WHEN ASKED, WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION, WOULD IT HAVE BEEN VIABLE TO BUILD THIS HOTEL AND PROVIDE FULL SERVICE IN 2017 WHEN IT WAS APPROVED THAT IT WAS, IT WAS NOT A YES, IT'S AS THOUGH YOU ASKED FOR 140 ROOMS KNOWING THAT IT WOULDN'T PROVIDE THE SERVICE THAT YOU WANTED.

AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

I MEAN, THE ONLY THING I CAN DRAW FROM THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE, WE'LL GET 140 ROOMS SIT ON IT FOR A FEW YEARS AND COME BACK AND ASK FOR MORE BECAUSE MAYBE WE WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN 165 ON DAY ONE.

AND IF THE TRUE ANSWER IS CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE MUCH GREATER NOW, WHICH IS HOW THE STAFF REPORT IS WRITTEN.

UM, AND, UH, THE JUSTIFICATION FOR SOME OF THE CHANGES IS THE CURRENT, UH, THE INCREASE IN HOTEL ROOMS RELATES TO ECONOMIC VIABILITY OF THE PROJECT, GIVEN CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS.

UM, I I, I DON'T SEE THAT AS MY EXERCISING APPROPRIATE DISCRETION FOR GRANTING CHANGES THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED.

BECAUSE IF THAT'S THE CASE, LET'S JUST DO AWAY WITH THE RULE.

AND IF WE'RE GONNA GRANT, UH, UH, EVERY APPLICANT'S REQUEST BASED ON ECONOMIC HARDSHIP, UH, WHEN THE PROJECT WOULDN'T HAVE WORKED ON DAY ONE IN 2017, UH, WE, WE, WE'LL JUST GRANT EVERYBODY THEIR REQUEST.

THERE'LL BE NO RULES.

UM, SO I'M COMFORTED BY THE FACT, AND I WROTE IT DOWN THAT THE ADDITIONAL ROOMS ARE, QUOTE, NOT NECESSARY FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE HOTEL.

SO I'M COMFORTED BY THE FACT THAT THE HOTEL WILL IN FACT BE SUCCESSFUL BY YOUR OWN STATEMENT, UH, IF WE DON'T GRANT THE ADDITIONAL 25 ROOMS. UM, AND AS, AS FOR THE EFIS, UM, I, I'M LOOKING AT THE STAFF REPORT, WE HAVE CRITERIA FOR VARIANCES.

AND THE FIRST CRITERIA IS THE PROPERTY DOES, DOES NOT HAVE EXTRAORDINARY AND EXCEPTIONAL CONDITIONS.

SO THERE IS NO BASIS FOR NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER THREE SAYS THE PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE PECULIAR CONDITIONS WHICH AFFECT ITS USE.

SO THERE'S NO BASIS FOR NUMBER THREE.

BUT THEN WE GET TO NUMBER TWO, THE APPLICATION OF THE ORDINANCE, WHICH IS THE REQUIRED MATERIALS FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, CREATES AN UNNECESSARY HARDSHIP.

WHAT IT SAYS IS,

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WE THINK EFIS IS A BETTER PRODUCT AND THEREFORE WE WANT TO USE A PRODUCT THAT'S NOT APPROVED BECAUSE WE FOUND SOMETHING WE THINK IS BETTER.

WELL, I'M NOT SURE THAT, AGAIN, COMPORTS WITH THE CRITERIA FOR A VARIANCE WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO STAFF WHO, WHO USED THAT PARTICULAR ONE AS A BASIS FOR THE VARIANCE, I DISAGREE.

SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE AN UP AND DOWN VOTE.

I LIKE THE VERTI PORT.

UH, BUT, UH, IF, IF I WAS TO GRANT THIS REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL ROOMS ON A HOTEL, EVERY, EVERY SINGLE HOTEL SHOULD JUST COME BACK TO US AND SAY, WE WANT MORE ROOMS, BECAUSE THEY CAN DUPLICATE EVERY ONE OF THESE THINGS RIGHT HERE.

GONNA BE HERE 'CAUSE WE HAD TO APPROVED SINCE 2017, SO IT'S NOT A NEW WE, WE KNEW THIS WOULD BE AN INVENTORY KIND OF ENHANCEMENT.

ANY OTHER COMMENT? MAYOR PRO TEM.

I APPRECIATE YOUR REMARKS.

COUNCILMAN.

HES, I'M LOOKING AT THIS IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

I'M LOOKING AT A PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2017 WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE.

UM, THE HOTEL WAS NOT AN AC HOTEL IN 2017.

A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK IT WAS CALLED A TBD HOTEL.

UM, AND WE LOVED THE IDEA OF A HOTEL.

I THINK THE NUMBER THAT WAS PICKED WAS IN LINE WITH A BOUTIQUE HOTEL.

WE THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD.

SINCE THEN, WITH STAFF AND DISCUSSIONS AND EXPERIENCES, INCLUDING THE HO THE HOTEL DOWNTOWN HERE IN THE HAMILTON, UH, WE'VE DISCOVERED THAT THEY NEED MORE ROOMS LIKE A 75 PERSON, UH, FACILITY.

EVEN IF IT'S A SMALL WEDDING.

I DON'T THINK THEY GET THAT AT THE HAMILTON.

I'M NOT PICKING ON 'EM.

IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT SMALLER PIECE.

UM, HAVING BEEN IN THE INSURANCE BUSINESS FOR A LONG TIME, UNDERSTANDING CONSTRUCTION AND A LOT OF CONTRACTOR CLIENTS, EVE'S HAD PROBLEMS EARLY ON.

IT WAS A QUESTION WHETHER IT WAS THE INSTALLATION PROBLEM, AND WE SAW THIS ON THE INSURANCE SIDE, UH, WAS IT A PRODUCT PROBLEM OR INSTALLATION PROBLEM? AND THEY'VE HAD A TON OF TIME TO FIGURE IT ALL OUT.

AND HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

AND, AND WITH STATISTICS HAVE SHOWED ON THE INSURANCE SIDE, WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT MORE PROBLEMS NOW WITH STUCCO FOR WATER DAMAGE CLAIMS THAN WE DO WITH THE E BECAUSE OF THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM ON IT.

SO I'M NOT CAUGHT UP IN THE MATERIAL SIDE, UH, OF WHAT THE CHANGE IS.

I AM LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT WAS APPROVED NINE YEARS AGO, PROJECT HAD TO GO THROUGH COVID.

UM, I'M NOT DEFENDING THESE INDIVIDUALS, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE TIMEFRAME PERIOD, WHEREVER YOU ARE IN THE CITY WHEN THIS THING STARTED.

UH, I THINK PERSONALLY HAVING MET WITH THESE GUYS AND STAFF, THIS MAKES IT ACTUALLY A BETTER PROPERTY BECAUSE WITHOUT THE 25 EXTRA ROOMS, I GET THE SCALE KITCHENS ARE SMALLER, WE DO SMALLER VENTS.

ONE OF THE POINTS THAT I DON'T THINK THEY BROUGHT UP HERE WAS THAT THE SECOND FLOOR, I BELIEVE IT IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE RENDERINGS, DOES OFFER FOOD AND BEVERAGE TO THE PUBLIC.

AND SO WHAT GABRIEL WAS SAYING WAS, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.

THE, THE, THE PEOPLE IN THE APARTMENTS CAN GO OVER THERE AND HAVE ACTUALLY WALKING DISTANCE TO A NICE RESTAURANT.

THEY'VE GOT WALKING DISTANCE TO A COLLECTIVE PLACE FOR A BAR.

UH, I'M LOOKING AT IT AS THE ENTIRE PROJECT THAT'S BEING CREATED ON THAT CORNER.

IF ANYBODY'S CONCERNED ABOUT HEIGHT, I DUNNO IF MY MATH WAS RIGHT, IT'S ONLY GOING UP ABOUT 11 FEET.

UM, TO ADD THOSE 25 ROOMS IS, IS, IS, IS JUST, IT'S NOT A NUMBER THAT I SEE TO PUSH BACK ON SOMEBODY WHO'S TRYING TO BRING US A GREAT PRODUCT.

SO I'M VERY MUCH IN, IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

AND I THINK WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT THE TIMEFRAME THAT LAPSED, UM, ALTHOUGH THE BANK MIGHT NOT SAY THE SAME THING, I, I THINK IT MAKES IT A BETTER PRODUCT.

SO, UH, THAT'S WHY I MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS AND I, I SUPPORT IT VERY MUCH.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN BRADY? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO ADD SOME COMMENTS ON THERE, SOME RESIGNATION.

FIRST OF ALL, REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, COUNCILMAN HYPE'S KIND OF COMMENTS.

I KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE HERE FOR ALL FOR ALPHARETTA.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, EFIS, UM, IT'S A SUPERIOR PRODUCT.

I'VE BEEN, STUCCO HAS HAD SO MANY PROBLEMS. I THINK WE HAVE KIND OF IN OUR CODES TO HAVE THAT HARD COAT STUCCO.

THERE'S A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THAT.

MOST OF BUILDINGS TODAY HAVE E FS.

WE'VE, WE'VE BUILT E ETHOS TOO.

AND IT'S, UH, AT HEMA KIND OF DOING IT.

IT'S A SUPERIOR PRODUCT AND IT KIND OF HAS A BETTER DESIGN KIND OF TO IT.

SO I TOTALLY GET THAT GOING TO THE EXTRA ROOMS, I KINDA LOOK AT THAT FOUR STAR HOTEL AND LOOK AT KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE.

AND ONE CRITICAL THING THAT POINTED OUT TO ME IS 85% OF THE HOTELS THAT WE HAVE IS MORE OF AN EXTENDED STAY STYLE IN ALPHARETTA.

THERE IS A QUALITY THAT WE WANT.

THERE IS A BUSINESS CLIENTELE THAT WANTS A HIGHER LEVEL AND THEY WANT TO HAVE AMENITIES INSIDE THEIR HOTEL.

UM, LIKE THE RESTAURANTS AND YOU LIKE TO GO DOWNSTAIRS IN THE BAR AND HAVE A COCKTAIL.

THEY WANT TO HAVE THOSE THINGS.

THEY WANT TO HAVE THE MEETING ROOMS READY TO GO.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S ABSOLUTELY DESIRABLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, IF WE LOOK AT ALL OF, YOU KNOW, WHO WANTS TO STAY, WE HAVE A LOT OF HOTELS WHERE FAMILIES CAN STAY, YOU KNOW, AND STANLEY STAY THERE FOR A A PERIOD OF TIME, THE REGULAR ONES.

BUT THIS IS MORE OF A BUSINESS KIND OF APPLICATION AND IT'S SITUATED RIGHT IN THE NORTH WIND.

SO I, IT FITS PERFECTLY OVERALL.

WE KNOW THIS HOTEL IS

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I REALLY KIND OF LOOK AT, IS IT WORTH KIND OF ADDING MORE ROOMS TO IT TO HAVE MORE AMENITIES ON A CORRIDOR.

THEY ALL KINDA BE RIGHT THERE BETWEEN NORTH POINT INTO A BUSINESS COMMUNITY, UM, MIGRATORY KIND OF INTO CITY CENTER.

IT'S, IT'S PLACED PERFECTLY FOR THIS.

THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS I KIND OF LOOK AT FROM A LAND PLANNING KIND OF PERSPECTIVE AND LOOKING AT WHAT DO WE HAVE TO OFFER WITHIN THE INVENTORY THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THERE WITH THE HOTELS.

AND THAT 85% REALLY HIT ME.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE FOUR STAR HOTELS THAT CATER TO KIND OF THE FOLKS THAT HAVE THOSE CHOICES.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF IN THE SUPPORT OF KIND OF BACK IN.

I LOVE THE VER AIRPORT IDEA.

I THINK IT'S THE COOLEST THINK OF THE WORLD TO KIND OF HAVE TECHNOLOGY, A CITY OF THE SOUTH THAT WE'VE DUBBED TO KIND OF HAVE THOSE COOL KIND OF THING.

BUT I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND IT MORE AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU FRAMED IT UP.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS, UH, SECONDING THIS MOTION.

SO THANK YOU COUNCILMAN DRISCOLL.

SO TWO, TWO QUESTIONS OR ONE, I GUESS CLARIFICATION ON ONE.

UM, MICHAEL WAS TALKING ABOUT THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ROOMS, HOTEL ROOMS, THAT ARE APPROVED, PRE-APPROVED SET.

LIKE IT WAS LIKE 600 ISH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WAS IN THERE THEREBY, RIGHT? SO, BUT IS THAT A FLOATING NUMBER? SO IF YOU EXTEND EXTRA 25, THE EXTRA 25 OR SO ROOMS HERE, DOES THAT PULL AWAY FROM THAT NUMBER OR ARE THOSE SET ALREADY FOR THOSE OUT THERE? YEAH, SO THE 600 HOTEL ROOMS THAT, THANK YOU MAYOR.

THE, THE 600 HOTEL, 600 HOTEL ROOMS ARE APPROVED IN THE NORTH WINDS MASTER PLAN.

SO THAT MUCH LARGER AREA OF NORTH WINDS WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST NORTH WIND SUMMIT, WHICH IS A SMALL PART OF THE GREATER NORTH WINDS, UH, MASTER PLAN.

SO THERE WERE 600 A APART, UM, SORRY, HOTEL ROOMS APPROVED WITH THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN THAT APPROVED NORTH WINDS, UH, THAT WAS DONE IN 1986.

SO ANY APPROVAL OF HOTELS AT NORTH WIND SUMMIT WILL COME OUT OF THAT 600.

RIGHT? AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'VE ONLY DEVELOPED TWO HOTELS IN NORTH WIND'S MASTER PLAN.

AND THOSE ROOMS TOTAL, I THINK IT WAS 176 TOTAL ROOMS. SO WE'RE WELL BELOW THE MAX 600 THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

THE REASON WHY THE APPLICANT HAS TO COME BACK TO ASK FOR 25 MORE ROOMS IS WHEN THEY APPROVED THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, THE NORTH WINDS MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

THERE WAS A ZONING CONDITION THAT SAID THIS NEEDED TO BE EITHER A BOUTIQUE OR A FULL SERVICE HOTEL, AND IT LIMITED THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ROOMS TO WHAT THE APPLICANT WAS REQUESTING AT THAT TIME, WHICH WAS 140 ROOMS. SO THERE IS THIS ABILITY TO ASK FOR MORE ROOMS. THE NORTH WINDS MASTER PLAN CONTEMPLATED THAT.

IN FACT, IT SAYS THE FIRST 300 ROOMS ARE APPROVED FOR USE THROUGHOUT THE MASTER PLAN, AND THEN YOU CAN GET AN ADDITIONAL 300 HOTEL ROOMS AND YOU EXCHANGE THAT FOR 800 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE FOR EVERY ONE HOTEL ROOM FOR THE ADDITIONAL 300.

SO WE SUPPORTED THIS BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN DID SUPPORT A LARGER NUMBER OF HOTEL ROOMS. WE FEEL LIKE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST GUARANTEED OR INSURED THAT PRODUCT, THAT BRAND AS WELL AS THE, THE NUMBER OF STARS, THE LEVEL OF THE HOTEL.

UM, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE SUPPORTING THAT.

AND, AND YOU WERE CORRECT, THERE ARE, THERE'S, THERE'S AN ALLOWANCE FOR HOTEL ALREADY IN THIS MASTER PLAN.

AND SO IF THESE WERE GRANTED, THAT ADDITIONAL WOULD BE DEDUCTED FROM WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN, WHETHER IT'S ONE 40 OR 1 65, THOSE WILL BE REDUCED FROM THE TOTAL 600 THAT WERE APPROVED FOR THIS MASTER PLAN.

IS THAT USE AT THAT LOCATION.

YES, THANK FOR PREPAR FOR THAT.

AND THE, THE SECOND PART OF THAT, THE VERTI PORT IS EXTREMELY INTERESTING AND COOL.

UM, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT WERE SAID.

I, I'M ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE FOR MY JIRA.

I'M, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE HOTEL AND A LITTLE FRIGHTENED, NOT, NOT LIKE THE VER DEPORTE ITSELF DOESN'T FRIGHTEN ME, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE WORDS LIKE CARGO WERE MENTIONED AND REPAIR FACILITIES, I AUTOMATICALLY START THINKING OF LIKE DOWN AROUND THE ATLANTA AIRPORT AND THE CARGO AREA BECAUSE WHEN WE, WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S SO COOL AND SO NEW AND, AND VERY INNOVATIVE, WHAT DOES IT LOOK, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? WE'RE ALL, BASICALLY, WE'RE TALKING TO EXPERTS AND EXPERTS THINK AND EXPERTS SAY, AND I'M, I'M SITTING HERE, IF WE ARE TO VOTE TO APPROVE THIS, WHAT EXACTLY AM I VOTING TO APPROVE A A CON A CONCEPT THAT CAN CHANGE EVERY TIME WE TALK TO AN EXPERT? WHAT LIMITATIONS OF CONTROL DO WE HAVE ON IT? SO, AND THAT MAY VERY WELL BE THERE.

DOES THAT MAKE, I MEAN IT'S, YEAH, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON IN THIS VOTE TONIGHT

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UM, BUT THERE WOULD BE A TIME IN THE FUTURE WHEN AN ACTUAL STRUCTURE OR SOMETHING COMES BACK THAT HAD ENDS UP WORKING THROUGH OUR WHOLE LDP PROCESS.

SO, UM, THIS ADDS THAT USE AS AN ACCEPTABLE USE IF IT, IF IT VOTE, IF IT'S VOTED UP.

AND I GUESS THAT THAT WOULD BE THE QUESTION OF WHAT IF WE APPROVE THE USE, WHAT THEN LIMITATIONS? HOW, HOW DO YOU CONTROL A USE THAT HAS NEVER, WE'VE NEVER APPROVED ONE, I DON'T BELIEVE.

CORRECT.

WE APPROVE.

I MEAN, WE'RE TRYING TO WRITE.

YEAH, SO WE RECENTLY ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT EVEN INCORPORATED INTO OUR CODE YET.

IT'S SO RECENT, UM, APPROVED, WELL YOU ALL APPROVED.

I DIDN'T, UM, APPROVED CHANGES TO THE UDC TO ADD VERTI PORT AS A USE TO DEFINE IT, TO SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATE IT AND PUT IT IN VARIOUS PLACES IN THE ZONING DISTRICTS WHERE IT CAN BE REQUESTED.

UM, AND SO ADDING THAT DEFINITION IN CLEARLY DELINEATES WHAT IT CAN BE USED FOR.

UM, AND IT, IT, YOU KNOW, AS ONE SAFEGUARD, FOR INSTANCE, THE DEFINITION FOR VER VER DEPORTE MAKES VERY CLEAR, CAN'T BE USED FOR HE HELICOPTERS.

UM, BUT I THINK MICHAEL WOULD PROBABLY BE ABLE TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THE REGULATIONS THAT WERE ADDED.

UM, OTHER THAN CONDITIONS THOUGH, APART FROM WHAT'S IN OUR CODE, IT WOULD JUST BE OUR, OUR STANDARD PERMITTING PROCEDURES AND THEN AGAIN, THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE ON THE USE ITSELF.

SO IF THERE ARE PARTICULAR CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THIS USE WOULD OPERATE, UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND ADDING THOSE AS CONDITIONS TO THE, TO THE APPROVAL IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE USE, BUT JUST WANT TO MITIGATE IT IN SOME WAY.

AND THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE THE APPROACH TO TAKE IT.

IT IS THE FIRST ONE THAT Y'ALL HAVE HAD.

AND SO WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH TO, TO DRAW FROM, I THINK IS FAIR TO SAY.

I, I MEAN, 'CAUSE I IDEALLY, I GUESS THIS IS, WOULD BE APPROVED TO ADD VALUE TO THAT DEVELOPMENT, UM, NOT TO PROVIDE SERVICES.

SO SOMEONE COULD, I MEAN, CARGO, WHEN, WHEN I HEARD THE WORD CARGO, UM, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY I, IT, IT COULD GET OUTTA HAND.

UM, IF IT'S FEDEX FLAG FOR STUFF, YEAH.

IT'S JUST NOT KNOW.

I MEAN, 'CAUSE WE DON'T, I LOVE THE IDEA OF A AIRPORT BEING THERE, BUT HOW DO WE CAN, HOW DOES IT ADD VALUE? SO WE'RE NOT SITTING HERE 10 YEARS FROM NOW AND A CU HOTEL IS LIKE, THERE'S, FEDEX IS RUNNING OUT OF IT.

UPS HAS RUN OUT OF IT 'CAUSE IT'S THE ONLY VERTI PORT IN THE NORTHERN PART OF GEORGIA THAT'S BEEN APPROVED.

SO THAT'S MY CONCERN.

IF I COULD JUST FOLLOW UP WITH, SO IN THAT AS, AS YOU JUST SAID THAT STATEMENT, IF YOU LIKE THE THE VERTI PORT THERE, THEN YOU WOULD LIKELY SUPPORT WHAT'S PRESENTED TONIGHT, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR THE USE OF THAT SITE.

YOU'LL HAVE ALL THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE WORLD TO CONDITION A PROJECT.

IF WE EVER GET AN APPLICATION FOR ONE AND YOU COULD CONDITION IT AND SAY NO COMMERCIAL CARGO OPERATIONS OR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT, THAT WOULD BE WHEN WE WOULD START TO HONE IN ON WHAT THE ACTUAL USE IS.

SO THOSE CONDITIONS BECOME A PART OF A, A REAL PROJECT.

THIS IS JUST A USE ADDED THAT SAYS IT'S OKAY IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT.

COUNCILMAN REEVES.

SO COUNCILMAN JUSTCO BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT.

WHEN SOMETHING'S NEW, WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO THINK THE BEST OF IT.

MOST OF US ARE LIKE THINKING ABOUT IT AND GOING, JETSONS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING REALLY COOL, I'M DATING MYSELF HERE, BUT YOU THINK IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING REALLY COOL.

AND I THINK HE BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? NOT ONLY HOW DOES IT OPERATE, BUT WHAT'S IT LOOK LIKE? WHAT'S THAT TERMINAL LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS WHAT, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF A LOOK AND FEEL DOES IT GIVE TO THE COMMUNITY OVERALL? BUT, UM, BUT MR. LOG BLOOM HAS SAID WE'LL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY WHEN IT COMES THROUGH.

SO WE'RE JUST DEALING WITH JUST THE USE.

THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

UM, ADDING THE EXTRA FLOOR BOTHERS ME AND I, IT MAKES ME QUESTION, DOES THAT MEAN IT'S NOT GONNA BE A FOUR STAR HOTEL IF WE DON'T HAVE THE 25 ROOMS? DOES THAT MEAN, LIKE, IS IS THAT WHAT THAT MEANS? WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES NOT HAVING THE EXTRA FLOOR MEAN TO US AS, AS THE CITY? UM, I DON'T, I'M I'M A LITTLE FUZZY ON THAT AND THAT SEEMS, THAT SEEMS KIND OF DRASTIC.

WHEN A PROJECT COMES THROUGH, YOU'LL HAVE ALL THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW AND ALL THE OTHER, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN RENDERINGS OF THESE THINGS AS, AS THESE DESIGNS HAVE COME ABOUT AND AS THIS CONCEPT IS TALKED ABOUT.

BUT WE WON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THERE UNTIL WE GET A PROJECT AND THEN HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT IT THROUGH OUR PROCESS, WHICH WOULD GO THROUGH THE DRB AND THE ALL PUBLIC, ALL ALL OF THAT.

YEP.

ALL OF THAT PUBLIC PROCESS.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE EFIS.

THE AFIS IS LIKE, AS LONG AS IT LOOKS GOOD AND IT PASSES ALL OF OUR CITY AND DESIGN REVIEW BOARD FOLKS, THEN I THINK THAT THAT'S NOT THAT BIG A DEAL.

THE VERTI PORT SOUNDS COOL.

I THINK I'M GONNA THINK IT SOUNDS COOL.

'CAUSE I'M GONNA THINK IT'S GONNA BE ONE OF THE COOL THINGS.

UM, I THINK THE GUARDRAILS WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO BE PUT AROUND IT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU, AS YOU GET CLOSER TO IT.

BUT MAYBE WE'LL KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE AND THERE'LL BE MORE VERTE PORTS TO LEARN FROM.

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BUT, UM, IT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M SITTING ON EVERYTHING.

I, I, UM, YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT ANYBODY WHO WOULD WANNA PUT A HOTEL AT THAT LOCATION IN ALPHARETTA WOULD WANT IT TO BE FULL SERVICE AND WANT IT TO BE A GREAT HOTEL.

SO HOPE THAT MARRIOTT STAYS INVOLVED WITH THE PROJECT BECAUSE THEY DO GENERALLY MAKE GOOD PRODUCT.

COUNCILMAN DORITO, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT HASN'T SPOKEN OTHER THAN I, I LOVE THE VERTI PORT, AND I KNOW MR. ARMSTRONG PRESENTED A LOT OF DETAILS IN THE PAST WHEN WE HAD TO DO THE, UH, DEFINITION IN THE UDC CODE.

I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND IF WE HAVE SPECIFIC DEFINITIONS AROUND VERTI PORT USE IN ALPHARETTA OR IF THAT COULD BE DONE IN THE FUTURE TO HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP.

I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT, UM, I, I I, I THINK IT'S A, A, A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR ALPHARETTA ONCE AGAIN TO LEAD THE WAY IN THE REGION HERE.

UH, AND TO AS, UH, UH, COUNCILMAN BRADY ALLUDED TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE TECHNOLOGY CITY OF THE SOUTH, RIGHT? SO WE WANNA LIVE AND BREATHE THAT DAILY AND TRY TO STAY AHEAD OF TECHNOLOGY AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.

THAT IN ITSELF, WHEN WE BUILT OUT THE FIBER OPTIC, UH, NETWORK IN THE CITY, WHAT, 30 YEARS AGO, WHENEVER IT WAS, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT REALLY ATTRACTED SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN WHAT WE'RE SITTING IN TODAY, UH, COULD NEVER, EVER HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT THOSE DECISIONS BEING MADE.

SO, UM, I UNDERSTAND THE, UH, THE CONCERNS FOR THE ADDED FLOOR.

UH, I THINK COUNCILMAN HYPES, UM, OUTLINED SOME REALLY GOOD CONCERNS.

UH, UM, I WAS IN HERE IN 2017 WHEN, WHEN THIS WAS INITIALLY APPROVED, BUT, UM, THE WAY I LOOK AT THIS AND LISTENING TO EVERYONE HERE THIS EVENING, UM, THE NORTH POINT MALL CORRIDOR IS EXTREMELY, UH, IMPORTANT TO ME.

AND I THINK THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL, EVERYONE UP HERE, UM, TO REDEVELOP THAT AREA, UM, I, I DO THINK THAT WE'RE, WE'RE A CITY THAT LIKES TO BE VERY PROGRESSIVE.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS VERY BUSINESS SUPPORTING, BUSINESS ATTRACTION FOR ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT FOR YEARS TO COME AND KEEP IT A, A REAL STRONG ECONOMIC REGION OF, OF THE STATE.

UM, AND WITH THAT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE I CLASS HOTELS.

AND SO IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME THAT TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL FLOOR BECAUSE I THINK IF, IF I'M, IF I'M THE APPLICANT, AND I KNOW THIS REALLY IS NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN, IN THE APPLICATION, BUT I'LL JUST BE, YOU KNOW, PERFECTLY HONEST, IF I WAS THE APPLICANT, I'D BE, I'D BE LOOKING AT ENHANCING THIS POTENTIAL HOTEL, UH, DEVELOPMENT KNOWING THAT A LOT OF GOOD THINGS MIGHT BE COMING DOWN THE PIKE IN THE NORTH POINT MALL AREA, UM, THAT THIS, UH, HOTEL COULD SUPPORT.

SO, UH, AND, AND YES, AS COUNCILMAN HYPES NOTED, UM, WE HOPE A A HOTEL IS PLANNED FOR, FOR THAT REDEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

UM, BUT I, BUT I THINK WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE, UM, ADDITIONAL, UM, CLASS FOUR HOTEL SPACE, UM, TO ACCOMMODATE EVEN THAT REDEVELOPMENT, EVEN IF A, A NEW HOTEL GOES THERE.

AND I THINK, UH, SOME OF THE MAYBE SMALL HOTELS IN, IN THE FUTURE WILL HAVE TO EITHER REINVEST OR REMODEL OR WHATEVER, BUT IT MIGHT CAUSE THAT TO HAPPEN AS WELL.

SO I SEE THAT AS A, AS A POSITIVE, UM, CAPITALIST THAT I AM.

I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, LET THE MARKET DRIVE THE DECISIONS OF THE HOTELS HERE ON, ON HOW THEY OPERATE THEIR FACILITIES IN THE FUTURE AND, AND TO CONTINUE COMPETING.

AND, AND I THINK A CITY THAT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO GROW AND REQUIRE THESE TYPES OF AMENITIES TO BE PROVIDED IF WE'RE TO, YOU KNOW, BE THE TYPE OF CITY THAT WE ARE TODAY AND WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE.

SO I, I BASICALLY SUPPORT BOTH.

SO I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION RIGHT QUICK IT TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR ALL OF COUNCIL, THE PROCESS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, SHOULD THERE BE AN APPLICATION FOR ONE OF THE VERTI PORTS? WOULD THAT BE LIKE A PERMITTING? DO WE NEED TO, DO WE NEED TO CREATE A PERMITTING ORDINANCE OR

[01:35:01]

SOMETHING THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, YEAH.

THAT, SO YES, THE ANSWER TO , THE INFORMED ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES, THEY WOULD GO THROUGH THE TRADITIONAL, UM, DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, UM, PROCESS, LDP PROCESS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A PROJECT.

UM, THIS CREATES THE, THE CONDITIONED USE ON THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY, RIGHT? IT WOULD NOT BE RIGHT.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS DEVELOPMENT BY RIGHT.

WOULD THERE BE A SPECIFIC PERMITTING PROCESS FOR VERTA PORT? OH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC FOR VERTI PORT TODAY.

WELL, I KNOW WE DON'T NOW, BUT I DON'T EXPECT 'EM TO COME BILL ONE RIGHT NOW.

I'M THINKING IF COUNSEL CHOSE TO CREATE A PERMITTING PROCESS, IS THAT SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAINTAIN OR CONTROL? SO YOU CAN ALWAYS ADD ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS TO THE UDC, RIGHT? UM, UM, THINK ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT USES THAT YOU'VE EXPANDED OVER TIME TO ADD DIFFERENT CRITERIA, DIFFERENT STANDARDS, THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES.

THE QUESTION IS WHETHER IF YOU CHOOSE TO MAKE FURTHER REVISIONS TO THE UDC, WITH RESPECT TO VERTI PORTS, NOW, WHETHER THEY WOULD THEN BE APPLICABLE TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

AND THAT WOULD BE BASICALLY A VESTED RIGHTS ANALYSIS THAT I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO WITH, UM, MS. COOK ON A VERY FACT INTENSIVE BASIS.

THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO CLARIFY IT, BECAUSE I THINK THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS AMONG OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS OF HOW THAT WOULD WORK.

ASSUMING IT WAS A LAND USE BASED REGULATION, BUT YEAH.

CONGRATULATIONS GENTLEMEN.

I, I THINK THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION ENOUGH.

SO I WON'T BELABOR THAT POINT ANYMORE.

I, I WILL SAY THAT THERE'S NO ONE ON THIS DAIS THAT HAS VOTED AGAINST MORE HOTELS IN THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA THAN I AM.

AND I BELIEVE BISHOP ARMSTRONG PROBABLY REMEMBERS THAT I VOTED AGAINST THE AC HOTEL THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TODAY.

I VOTED AGAINST THE NORTH WHITTEN SUMMIT PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE INTRUSION OF THE TREE BUFFER BETWEEN 400 AND THE EXTENSION OF THAT ROAD.

SO, OH, WELL, THINGS HAVE CHANGED, HAVEN'T THEY? UM, I DO SUPPORT THE PROJECT.

I, I, I THINK IT, IT'S A SHAME AND, AND I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT PUT INTO THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD HERE, BECAUSE ONE OF MY BIGGEST REGRETS HAS BEEN THAT PREVIOUS COUNCILS APPROVED HOTELS BY WRIGHT THROUGHOUT THAT PRESTON RIDGE AREA, THAT MARKET AND THAT DEVELOPMENT.

AND WHEN THEY DID THAT, IT REMOVED ANY ABILITY FOR US TO NOT APPROVE SOME OF THOSE HOTELS THAT EXIST NOW AND, AND THE POTENTIAL FOR MORE.

UM, AND SO IT'S, IT'S GOOD THAT WE'RE BEING THOUGHTFUL ABOUT IT, BUT WHEN YOU COME RIGHT DOWN TO IT, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HOTELS THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE BY RIGHT, I WANT 'EM TO BE THE NICEST HOTELS THEY CAN POSSIBLY BE.

AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL, IF IT DOESN'T RUN OUT SOME OF THE LOWER END HOTELS THAT ARE PROBLEMATIC AT TIMES, THEN MAYBE IT'LL DRIVE OTHER OWNERS TO BUY THOSE PROPERTIES AND, AND DO A BETTER JOB FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I, I DO SUPPORT IT.

I THINK THE BOARD OF PORT THING IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT FROM SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS IN TRANSPORTATION.

WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT, BUT, UH, I WON'T BE THE FIRST ONE AND I'LL LET FERGAL DO THAT.

, THAT BEING SAID, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE, PLEASE VOTE YES.

AND IT DOES PASS.

SIX ONE.

SO THAT WRAPS UP THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF TONIGHT'S MEETING, I BELIEVE.

DO WE HAVE A PUBLIC, UH, YES.

EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING? WE DO.

MR. MAYOR ONE TOPIC LITIGATION.

UM, OKAY.

AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, UH, THERE MAY BE COUNCIL ACTION AFTER THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

CASE THERE IS ANYONE THAT'S BEEN SITTING HERE WANTING TO EXERCISE THEIR FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

AND PUBLIC COMMENT, JUST IN

[5. PUBLIC COMMENT]

I DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD TO EXERCISE THEIR FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

SO, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

I THINK YOU DO HAVE ONE.

YOU HAVE ONE PERSON.

SORRY.

OH, I'M SORRY.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE WITH HIM.

NO, NO.

MY APOLOGIES.

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I'LL BE FAST.

UH, MY NAME'S RYAN HINSON.

UH, I LIVE AT ASHLEY, 2 7 4 8 ASHLEY LANE.

UM, I'M AN INCOMING ROTARIAN AND, UH, CURRENTLY ATTENDING THE PUBLIC SERVICE OR PUBLIC SAFETY CITIZENS ACADEMY CLASS.

MM-HMM .

UH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU ALL AND CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEW MEMBERS AND, UH, VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE ALPHA LOOP AND, UH, NORTH POINT REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING TO MAKE THIS A GREAT CITY TO LIVE IN.

THAT WILL IT.

THAT'S AWESOME.

THANK YOU GUYS.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING.

HOPE TO SEE YOU AROUND.

I'LL SEE YOU AS CITIZEN CANADA.

ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? SO MOVED.

ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY REPORTS?

[6. REPORTS]

NO.

COUNCILMAN DR.

REAL QUICK.

I, I DIDN'T WANNA BRING, AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT DO YOU MIND TURN YOUR MIC ON? THANK YOU, SIR.

PUT ON, UM, ON THE VERTI PORT DEFINITION, WE PROBABLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT ENHANCING THE DEFINITION OF IT.

AND, AND I, I KNOW I HEARD ABOUT VERTI SPOT FOR THE FIRST TIME TONIGHT.

ME TOO.

SO WE MAY WANT TO INCLUDE SOME SORT OF DEFINITION IN THAT IN THE CODE.

UH, I KNOW THIS IS FAIRLY NEW, UM, TO US ALL, AND EVEN THE APPLICANT, MS. ARMSTRONG, UH, HAS KIND OF IMPLIED THAT, THAT THEY'RE KIND OF WORKING THROUGH ALL THE, HOW THIS IS ALL GONNA WORK AND EVERYTHING.

SO WE NEED TO BE KIND OF PROBABLY CONSTANTLY UPDATING THE DEFINITION JUST TO, YOU KNOW, PUT SOME GUARDRAILS AROUND IT HERE IN ALPHARETTA WHEN WE, WHERE WE CAN, ONCE WE UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WHOLE THING'S GONNA OPERATE.

SO, OH, AND I ALSO WANT TO, UM, TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK CHRIS, THE LEADER, UH, ALL OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS, ALL THE RANK AND FILE WHO HAVE DONE AN ABSOLUTE TREMENDOUS JOB, UH, DURING THE RECENT STORM.

UH, I KNOW THEY HAD TO SLEEP HERE OVERNIGHT.

THEY KNOW LONG SHIFTS, OVERTIME.

UM, THANK GOD IT WASN'T AS BAD OF AN EVENT AS IT COULD HAVE BEEN.

UH, BUT I KNOW THEY WERE A LITTLE BUSY AT TIMES AS WELL.

BUT, UM, I WANT TO THANK ALL THE EMPLOYEES AND, AND, AND CHRIS, I KNOW YOU KEPT US REALLY INFORMED AND BRIEFED AND, UH, UM, I WAS JUST VERY PROUD TO, TO SEE THE CITY OPERATING.

A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS DON'T SEE THIS WHAT GOES ON BEHIND THE SCENES, BUT EVERYBODY DID AN, AN OUTSTANDING JOB AND SHOULD BE APPLAUDED FOR THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

COUNCILMAN HEIGHTS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, THE SPOTLIGHT STAGE, WHICH HAS BEEN A COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND NORTH POINT MALL.

IT'S, UH, ON THE SECOND LEVEL OF THE MALL, CLOSE TO, UH, SEARS AND PENNEY'S, UH, ENTRANCE RIGHT AROUND FROM THE FOOD COURT.

IT'S REALLY BEEN A GREAT SUCCESS.

AND IT WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE BRAINCHILD AND, AND, UH, FORMULATED BY DIRECTOR ROGERS.

AND, UH, THERE WAS MUCH CONSTERNATION IN, IN THIS CITY WHEN MATILDAS CEASED TO BE ON SOUTH MAIN STREET WHEN THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY SOLD THE PROPERTY AND MATILDAS HAD TO RELOCATE.

AND I SAT OUT THERE IN THE CHEAP SEATS, AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM, AND WATCH PEOPLE GET MAD AT THE CITY BECAUSE WE COULDN'T CONTROL THE LANDOWNER ABOUT SELLING THEIR PROPERTY.

WELL, GOOD THINGS COME FULL CIRCLE, AND WE NOW HAVE, UH, MATILDAS AT THE SPOTLIGHT AND, UH, THEY ARE RETURNING TO THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA AND THEY, UH, WILL HAVE THEIR FIRST PERFORMANCE THIS SATURDAY, THE 31ST.

AND IF YOU FOLLOW ALONG ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR THE, UH, PARKS AND REC PAGE, YOU'LL FIND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, UH, TO SEE MATILDAS BACK IN ALPHARETTA AT THE SPOTLIGHT.

UH, IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT PERFORMANCE VENUE.

UH, ARCADIA THEATER HAS DONE WELL OUT THERE, AND I KNOW SOME OTHER NONPROFITS AS WELL HAVE, UH, UH, UTILIZED THE SPACE.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY BEEN A GREAT SUCCESS.

SO, KUDOS.

ANY OTHER REPORTS? CAN I CALL FOR A MOTION TO

[7. EXECUTIVE SESSION (IF NECESSARY)]

MR. SECOND MAYOR.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PROTI, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BRADY.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, PLEASE VOTE YES.

AND IT'S UNANIMOUS.

WE'LL BE BACK IN A LITTLE WHILE.

YOU, YOU CAN.

SO WE HAVE RECONVENED, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, ADD AN ITEM TO THE AGENDA TO DISCUSS THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND FULL AND FINAL RELEASE OF CLAIMS WITH PHILIP BROTHERS HOSPITALITY GROUP.

SO WE'RE READY TO, READY TO GO.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECONVENE? SO MOVED.

SECOND, HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BRADY.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO RE RECONVENE, PLEASE VOTE YES.

AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[01:45:01]

SECOND, I HAVE A, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE VOTE.

YES.

AND THAT ALSO PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

YES.

UM, SO SINCE YOU HAVE ADDED THIS, UM, AS INDICATED IN THE MOTION, THIS IS A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND FULL AND FINAL RELEASE OF CLAIMS BETWEEN THE CITY AND PHILLIPS BROTHERS HOSPITALITY GROUP CORP, DOING BUSINESS AS MERCANTILE SOCIAL.

THIS RELATES TO THE PENDING FEDERAL LAWSUIT THAT WAS FILED AND THE SETTLEMENT OF THAT CLAIM, UM, RELATED TO THE DENIAL OF THEIR ALCOHOL LICENSE WITH, UM, ALL OF THE TERMS SET FORTH IN THIS DOCUMENT.

AND SO WITH THAT, I WOULD JUST, UM, ASK THE COUNSEL TO CONSIDER IT AND VOTE ACCORDINGLY.

I'LL CALL FOR A MOTION.

I WOULD CALL FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SETTLEMENT AS PRESENTED BY MS. SWAN WITH THE RELEASE OF CLAIMS. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER REEVES.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE ACTUALLY.

AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE, WELL, WE DO HAVE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC HERE, BUT BEFORE WE VOTE ON AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, TECHNICALLY OUR RULES REQUIRE THAT WE CALL FOR PUBLIC PUBLIC COMMENT.

WELL, THANK GOODNESS WE HAVE PUBLIC HERE.

PLEASE CONTINUE.