[00:00:03]
[1. CALL TO ORDER]
THIS APRIL 23RD, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER.[5. PUBLIC HEARING]
CONSIDER TONIGHT.THIS ITEM WAS BROUGHT TO THE BOARD ON MARCH 5TH, AND, UH, WE ARE GONNA HEAR IT AGAIN.
IF AREA, YOU CAN READ THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING, UM, PROCEDURE.
AN INDIVIDUAL REQUESTING TO BE HEARD ON A MATTER RELATED TO THE PURPOSE OF THE HEARING MUST BE RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR BEFORE ADDRESSING THE BOARD OR COMMISSION.
UPON RISING TO SPEAK, THE SPEAKER MUST IDENTIFY HIMSELF OR HERSELF AND FURNISH A HOME OR BUSINESS ADDRESS BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH ANY COMMENTS OR REMARKS.
THE COMMISSION WILL ALLOW THE PROPONENTS A TOTAL OF 10 MINUTES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF AN APPLICATION.
OPPONENTS WILL THEN BE ALLOWED 10 MINUTES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.
COMMENTS ARE ACCEPTED FIRST FROM THE APPLICANT, FOLLOWED BY PERSON SPEAKING IN FAVOR, AND THEN FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION UPON CONCLUSION OF ANY OPPOSING COMMENTS OR PRESENTATIONS, THE CHAIR WILL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO OFFER REBUTTAL IF ANY TIME IS REMAINING IN THE ORIGINAL ALLOTTED 10 MINUTES AND THE CHAIR HAS DISCRETION THAT GIVE MORE TIME IF NEEDED.
UH, THE ITEM IS MP DASH 26 DASH ZERO THREE, UH, SLASH C-C-L-U-P DASH 26 0 1 SLASH Z 26 0 1 CU 26 0 5 V 26 0 2.
THANK YOU CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS, BEFORE I GO INTO THE PRESENTATION, I JUST WANT TO GIVE A, UM, RECAP OF WHY THIS ITEM IS COMING BACK BEFORE YOU, WHERE IT'S BEEN.
SO, THIS RE REQUEST WAS CONSIDERED AT THE MARCH 5TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE STAFF, RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS, AND YOU DID ACCEPT, UH, CHANGES REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT, INCLUDING THEIR REQUEST TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT TO BE GATED.
PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION OF THE REQUEST, STAFF DISCOVERED THAT WE HAD GIVEN THE IMPROPER ZONING DISTRICT OR RECOMMENDED THE IMPROPER ZONING DISTRICT.
UH, FOR THIS REQUEST, WE HAD RECOMMENDED INITIALLY THAT THE APPLICANT SEEK THE R 10 M, UM, ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS A RESIDENTIAL, UM, ZONING DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS UP TO 10 UNITS PER ACRE.
AND THE ISSUE WAS, IS THAT THE DENSITY WITHIN THAT ZONING DISTRICT CAN ONLY BE SPREAD OVER THE PROPERTY THAT IS ZONED R 10 M.
IT CANNOT BE SPREAD OVER THE REST OF POD A AND BROOKSIDE.
SO THE APPLICANT DID AMEND THEIR APPLICATION AND THEY CHANGED THE REQUESTED REZONING FROM R 10 M TO MU MIXED USE.
AND REMEMBER, THE APPLICANT IS PORTMAN HOLDINGS.
PORTMAN WAS APPROVED FOR THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS LOCATION, AS YOU SEE RIGHT HERE.
AND SO IN PORTMAN CONTROLS THIS PROPERTY AND ALWAYS HAD ENVISIONED THIS PROPERTY AS BEING PART OF THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, BUT HAD NOT, UM, COME UP WITH THAT VISION AT THE TIME THAT THEY WENT THROUGH THEIR APPROVALS FOR THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
AND WITH THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, THEY WERE APPROVED FOR TOWN HOMES ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
THEY HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PROVIDENCE GROUP, AND SO THAT BROUGHT THE PROVIDENCE GROUP.
AND ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT, THAT YOU ARE HEARING THIS EVENING WITH THE CHANGE TO THE, THE ASK ON REZONING TO MU THE FUTURE LAND USE REQUEST CHANGES FROM HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MIXED USE.
SO THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION THEY'RE REQUESTING WOULD BE MIXED USE.
UH, THEY ARE ASKING FOR THE REZONING TO MU AND INCORPORATE THIS PROPERTY INTO THE PORTMAN BROOKSIDE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
THE PORTMAN BROOKSIDE DEVELOPMENT WAS ONLY 19 ACRES AND ACTUALLY RECEIVED A VARIANCE TO THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE AND A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT OF 25 ACRES.
ADDING THIS PROPERTY INTO IT WILL MAKE IT WHOLE WITH RESPECT TO THE CITY'S CODE FOR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
IT WILL EXCEED THE 25 ACRES, UH, WITH A CHANGE TO THE MU ZONING.
THEY ALSO HAD TO REQUEST A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW DWELLING FOR SALE ATTACHED.
AND THE MU ZONING DISTRICT, YOU HAVE TO ASK FOR CONDITIONAL USE FOR, FOR SALE AND FOR RENT, UH, DWELLINGS.
AND THEN THE VARI, UH, AN ADDITIONAL
[00:05:01]
VARIANCE REQUEST WAS ADDED, UH, WITH THE CHANGE TO MU AND THAT IS TO REDUCE THE OFFICE PERCENTAGE.SO THE ORIGINAL PORTMAN BROOKSIDE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT MET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF 25% OFFICE.
WHEN YOU ADD THIS PROPERTY IN, IT DOES REDUCE THE OVERALL PERCENTAGE, AND I'LL GO INTO MORE DETAILS ON THAT.
SO THEY DID ASK FOR A VARIANCE.
THERE ARE EXISTING OFFICE INDUSTRIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL USES ALREADY DEVELOPED IN A AND WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT COMPLIES WITH THE MINIMUM 25%.
BUT WE DID ADVERTISE THE VARIANCE OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION BECAUSE WE'RE JUST, WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE TWO PROPERTIES.
UM, THE, THERE WERE TWO VARIANTS REQUESTS THAT WENT AWAY WITH THE CHANGE TO MU.
THERE WAS A VARIANCE REQUEST TO REDUCE THE FRONT SETBACK ALONG BROOKSIDE PARKWAY.
YOU ESTABLISHED SETBACKS WITH THE MASTER PLAN AND THEN ALSO THE, THERE WAS A VARIANCE PREVIOUSLY TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM TOWN HOME UNIT WITH, UH, R 10 M REQUIRED A MINIMUM 20 FOOT WIDTH ON TOWN HOMES.
THE APPLICANT HAD A FEW UNITS, UM, ABOUT A THIRD OR SO OF THEIR UNITS THAT WERE 18 FOOT WIDE TOWN HOMES.
UM, THAT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT IN THE MU ZONING DISTRICT.
AND SO THAT VARIANCE HAS BEEN REMOVED.
SO THE ONLY VARIANCE IS TO THE MINIMUM OFFICE PERCENTAGE.
AND THEN THEY HAD A PREVIOUS VARIANCE TO REDUCE, UM, BUFFERS ON THE NORTH AND EAST SIDES OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN SINCE THE MARCH 5TH PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM, THE ONLY ITEMS IN THE CONDITIONS THAT HAVE CHANGED ARE CONDITION ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
AND WHEN WE GET TO THE CONDITIONS AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, I'LL, I'LL READ THROUGH THOSE.
I'M GONNA CONTINUE ON TO THE PRESENTATION AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE, UH, NEW, UH, OR A COUPLE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS THAT DID NOT HEAR THIS, UH, PREVIOUSLY.
SO I WILL GO INTO, UH, PRESENTATION ON THIS.
SO AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS PORTMAN HOLDINGS.
THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE PROVIDENCE GROUP.
THEY'RE REQUESTING MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT, COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, AMENDMENT, REZONING, CONDITIONAL USE AND VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF A FIVE STORY 130 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING WITH 104 4 SALE TOWN HOMES.
AND THE PROPERTY IS JUST UNDER NINE ACRES, 8.76 ACRES.
AND THIS IS LOCATED IN BROOKSIDE MASTER PLAN PO A.
THERE'S A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT TO ALLOW THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND ADD THE PROPERTY TO THE PORTMAN BROOKSIDE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT IS FROM CORPORATE OFFICE TO MIXED USE.
REZONING IS FROM ONI OFFICE, INSTITUTIONAL TO MIXED USE.
AND THERE IS A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW DWELLING FOR SALE ATTACHED.
THE VARIANCES, AS I MENTIONED, ARE TO REDUCE THE BUFFER AND REDUCE THE MINIMUM OFFICE PERCENTAGE.
AND I DO HAVE THE LOCATION MAP ON THE OVERHEAD.
THIS IS 36 50 BROOKSIDE PARKWAY.
THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL DENSITY IS 6.13 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
THAT DOES INCLUDE THE 410 RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IN THE PORTMAN BROOKSIDE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THE DENSITY IS SPREAD AGAIN OVER POD A OF BROOKSIDE MASTER PLAN.
SO THIS AREA, THIS PROPERTY IS ALSO IS WITHIN THE BROOKSIDE SMALL AREA PLAN.
SO WE PUT THAT SMALL AREA PLAN TOGETHER AND THAT VISION IS TO, UH, REIMAGINE THIS AREA AS A WALKABLE CONNECTED ENVIRONMENT AND AN EFFORT TO REPOSITION THE SUBURBAN OFFICE PARK THAT HAD ONE OF, UH, HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST, UH, OFFICE VACANCIES IN THE CITY.
WE'RE ALREADY SEEING SOME IMPROVEMENT IN THIS AREA.
AND SO THIS MAP IS SHOWING YOU SOME DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED AS WELL AS APPROVED IN THIS GENERAL VICINITY.
UH, YOU'LL SEE THE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET THAT'S NOT PART OF BROOKSIDE, UM, BUT I THINK THEY JUST PUT IT HERE BECAUSE THERE IS A PROPOSAL INTO THE CITY.
CURRENTLY, PROVIDENCE GROUP WAS APPROVED FOR A, UH, TOWNHOUSE, A TOWN HOME STYLE CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT IN THE EAST SIDE OF BROOKSIDE HERE.
THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL THAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING THIS EVENING.
GEORGIA STATE UNIVERSITY TO THE SOUTH, AND THEN THE PORTMAN BROOKSIDE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT OVER HERE, UM, ON THE WEST SIDE NEXT TO BROOKSIDE PARK.
AS I MENTIONED, THE VARIANCE TO THE OFFICE PERCENTAGE, BROOKSIDE, UM, PORTMAN BROOKSIDE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT INCLUDED 25.2% OFFICE OR JUST UNDER FIVE ACRES OF OFFICE INSTITUTIONAL USES.
[00:10:01]
UNDER NINE ACRE PROPERTY, THAT OFFICE IN INSTITUTIONAL PERCENTAGE REDUCES TO 17.4%.UH, WHAT WE DID, WE LOOKED AT THE REST OF PO A AND THERE IS OVER 40 ACRES OF OFFICE INSTITUTIONAL USES DEVELOPED IN PO A.
SO AGAIN, WE DID ADVERTISE THAT VARIANCE, BUT WE DO BELIEVE THAT IT COMPLIES.
AND JUST TALKING ABOUT THE BROOKSIDE SMALL AREA PLAN A LITTLE BIT MORE.
ONE OF THE BIG PROJECTS IN THAT PLAN, UM, WAS A REDO AT BROOKSIDE PARKWAY.
AND THIS IS THE CONCEPT FOR THAT PLAN.
UM, TWO TRAVEL LANES WITH A PLANTED CENTER MEDIAN, UM, SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS AND MULTI-USE TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, THE MULTI-USE TRAIL WOULD BE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD, WEST AND SOUTH SIDE OF BROOKSIDE PARKWAY.
AND THEN THE WIDER SIDE EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK WOULD BE ON THE APPLICANT'S UH, SIDE OF BROOKSIDE.
AND THIS JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA, THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HERE, BUT THIS JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT PORTMAN IS WORKING ON WITH RESPECT TO, UH, TRAIL, UM, TRAIL PROJECTS IN THAT VICINITY.
AND THERE WOULD BE ABILITY TO CONNECT INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
OF COURSE, THERE IS A CROSSWALK PROPOSED, UH, CONNECTING THE DEVELOPMENTS, UH, WITH A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION ACROSS BROOKSIDE PARKWAY.
YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE SITE PLAN.
SO THE APPLICANT HAS MADE NO CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN.
THERE'S NO CHANGES EXCEPT FOR THE, THE TECHNICAL CHANGES TO THE REZONING REQUEST.
COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN VARIANCES AND CONDITIONAL USE.
THE SITE PLAN IS THE SAME AS, UH, WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED.
AND THE SITE PLAN SHOWS THE 130 SQUARE FOOT, UM, 130,000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING AND JUST UNDER 600 SURFACE, UH, PARKING LOTS BEING REDEVELOPED WITH 104 FOUR SALE TOWN HOMES.
THERE'S 18 BUILDINGS, THERE'S THREE STORY BUILDINGS.
THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A MIX OF UNIT TYPES, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE HERE.
UM, THERE ARE 42 18 FOOT WIDE TOWN HOMES, 26 20 FOOT WIDE TOWN HOMES AND THIRD 6 22 FOOT WIDE TOWN HOMES.
THE TOWN HOMES WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT ARE ALL WE'RE ENTRY ACCESS FROM AN ALLEY.
ACCESS WILL CONTINUE FROM THE SHARED DRIVEWAY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER DRIVEWAY THAT EXISTS ON THE PROPERTY TODAY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS BEING REMOVED DUE TO SITE VISIBILITY SHOES.
AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT BE GATED.
THE UDC PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE 312 PARKING SPACES FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, ALL OF THE TOWNHOME UNITS WILL HAVE TWO SIDE-BY-SIDE PARKING SPACES IN A GARAGE, TWO SPACES ON A CODE COMPLIANT DRIVEWAY THAT TOTALS TO 416 PARKING SPACES.
AND THERE ARE ADDITIONAL 24, UM, ON STREET PARKING SPACES THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S ALMOST THREE ACRES OF OPEN SPACE JUST WITHIN THIS PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
THE, UH, PORTMAN UM, BROOKSIDE USE DEVELOPMENT INCLUDED ALMOST 14 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE WHEN YOU BRING THIS PROPERTY INTO THE PORTMAN MIXED USE, UH, BROOKSIDE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE OVERALL OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT GOES UP TO 15.81 ACRES.
AND BETWEEN THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS, THEY'RE PROVIDING 16.63 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE.
SO THEY DO EXCEED THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THEY HAVE THREE, THEY'RE DEPICTING THREE POCKET PARKS, A COMMUNITY CENTER WITH A POCKET PARK.
THE COMMUNITY CENTER'S KIND OF CENTRALIZED HERE.
UM, IT HAS A POCKET PARK COMMUNITY POOL AND MAIL KIOSK.
WITH REGARD TO TREES, THERE ARE EXISTING STREET TREES THAT WE WANTED THE APPLICANT TO SAVE, AND THEY ARE SAVING THOSE ALONG BROOKSIDE PARKWAY.
THE REMAINING TREES ON THIS PROPERTY ARE PARKING LOT ISLAND TREES.
UM, AND THEY ARE NOT IDENTIFIED TO BE SAVED AND NOR IS STAFF RECOMMENDING THAT THEY BE SAVED.
AND THIS PROPERTY IS SERVED BY MASTER DETENTION, UH, IN THE BROOKSIDE MASTER PLAN.
THE APPLICANT IS NOT SHOWING, UH, DID NOT PROVIDE ANY CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED RENDERINGS.
AND I'LL JUST SHOW YOU THOSE HERE.
AND THIS IS JUST A SIDE ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING.
THERE ARE A COUPLE LOCATIONS WHERE A SIDE ELEVATION WOULD PHASE BROOKSIDE PARKWAY,
[00:15:01]
AND WE ALWAYS LIKE TO HAVE THOSE, UH, APPEAR OR TO BE AN AN, UM, AS AN ENTRANCE NOTES, NO CHANGE TO TRAFFIC.UM, THE, THE UNIT COUNT IS THE SAME AS IT WAS PREVIOUSLY.
THE 10 HOME DEVELOPMENT WOULD REPRESENT AN 82% DECREASE IN AM PEAK HOUR TRIPS AND 79% DECREASE IN PM PEAK HOUR TRIPS WHEN COMPARED TO THE EXISTING 130,000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING.
AND THAT BRINGS ME TO OUR CONCLUSIONS.
OF COURSE, WE ALWAYS LOOK AT THESE PROPOSALS AND COMPARE THEM AGAINST THE REVIEW CRITERIA IN THIS CASE FOR A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT, COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, AMENDMENT, REZONING, CONDITIONAL USE AND VARIANCE.
THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROMOTES RETROFITTING AND MIXED USE PATTERNS TO CREATE ACTIVITY NODES NEAR OR WITHIN EXISTING OFFICE PARKS.
IT SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED OLD PARKWAY EAST OF GEORGIA 400 AS A PRIORITY AREA IN NEED OF REDEVELOPMENT.
SO WE DO BELIEVE THAT THIS, UH, COMPLIES WITH THE VISION, UM, THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE, UH, BROOKSIDE SMALL AREA PLAN, AS WELL AS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DEVELOPMENT WOULD BRING RESIDENCES CLOSER TO GOODS AND SERVICES AND JOBS.
AND THEN GEORGIA STATE UNIVERSITY IS LOCATED ACROSS THE STREET AND ONE OF THE LARGEST PROPERTY OWNERS IN BROOKSIDE WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT, UM, IS, SHOULD BE CREATED NEAR AND AROUND COLLEGE CAMPUSES.
AS IT RELATES TO THE VARIANCES, WE DO SEE THE PROPERTY HAS EXCEPTIONAL AND PECULIAR CONDITIONS DUE TO ITS SHAPE AND LOCATION IN THE BROOKSIDE SMALL AREA PLAN VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM OFFICE PERCENTAGE, AS I MENTIONED, WAS ADVERTISED OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.
WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S OVER 40 ACRES OF OFFICE INSTITUTIONAL USES ALREADY DEVELOPED IN POT A OF THE BROOKSIDE MASTER PLAN.
THERE WERE NO CHANGES TO THE APPLICANT'S CITIZEN PARTICIPATION REPORT.
THEY HAD INDICATED THAT THEY HAD RECEIVED NO COMMENTS.
UM, AND THEN THEY HAD INDICATED THAT THEY, UH, RECEIVED, UM, PUBLIC SUPPORT BY AT LEAST ONE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AT THE CZIM.
UH, CZIM WAS HELD ON JANUARY 14TH AND THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT SHEET.
AND WITH THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST SUBJECT TO THE 27 CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT AND SPECIFICALLY CONDITION ONE, TWO, AND THREE BECAUSE THERE'S SOME CHANGES THERE.
SO, CONDITION ONE, THE, THE ZONING DISTRICT HAS CHANGED IN THAT CONDITION.
SO INSTEAD OF R 10 M THAT'S BEEN REPLACED WITH THE MU ZONING DISTRICT, AND OF COURSE IT TIES IT TO THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW.
CONDITION TWO WAS ADDED, UH, BECAUSE THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW DWELLING FOR SALE ATTACHED.
SO THE FIRST SENTENCE WAS ADDED THERE.
DWELLING FOR SALE ATTACHED SHALL BE ADDED AS A PERMITTED USE ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE REMAINING PART OF THAT CONDITION IS THE SAME AS PREVIOUS.
AND THEN CONDITION THREE RELATES TO THE OFFICE PERCENTAGE, UH, VARIANCE.
SO IT ALLOWS THE PORTMAN BROOKSIDE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE PERMITTED WITH AN OFFICE INSTITUTIONAL PERCENTAGE OF 17.4%.
AND I DID NOTICE AS I WAS, UM, GETTING PREPARED THAT THERE WAS ONE CONDITION THAT WE SHOULD HAVE IN HERE THAT IS NOT HERE.
AND I JUST REALIZED IT AS I WAS COMING UP AND I HAVEN'T HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT THIS, BUT IT'S PRETTY, IT'S A VERY TYPICAL CONDITION THAT WE SHOULD HAVE WHEN WE HAVE A CH ASK, UH, A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT.
WE SHOULD HAVE A CONDITION IN HERE THAT SAYS THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATION SHALL BE MIXED USE.
WE ALWAYS HAVE A CONDITION IN THERE WHEN THERE IS A CHANGE TO THE FUTURE LAND USE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
SAY THAT AGAIN, OR SUPPORTING THAT.
MICHAEL, SAY THAT AGAIN PLEASE.
THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN.
DESIGNATION SHALL BE MIXED USE.
I DID, BUT I DID NOTICE THAT WAS MISSING.
UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THAT WAS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.
MICHAEL, ANY QUESTIONS? OH, I'M SORRY.
[00:20:01]
QUESTION.THE, UM, BROOKSIDE SMALL, UH, AREA PLAN, REMIND ME, DID THAT HAVE ANY COMPONENT OF, UH, NON-ATTACHED, UH, FOR SALE RESIDENTIAL ANYWHERE? SO THE BROOKSIDE SMALL AREA PLAN DID NOT MAKE LAND USE RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, AND THERE WERE NOT, THEY, THEY DID NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT WHAT WAS NEEDED TO, UM, REPURPOSE OR REPOSITION THIS, THIS OFFICE PARK.
SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO TALK OF SPECIFIC USES IN THAT DOCUMENT.
SO TO DATE, THERE HAS BEEN NO CONSIDERATION BY ANYONE LOOKING AT THIS PLAN TO INTRODUCE NON-ATTACHED PRODUCT? I ARE YOU ASKING HAVE WE, HAS ANYONE BEEN INTERESTED IN DOING A DETACH PRODUCT? YES.
I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY REQUESTS.
NOW WE'VE RECEIVED A, WE'VE HAD AN APPLICATION SUBMITTED ON THIS PROPERTY TO DO, UH, FOR RENT, UM, DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SPECIFIC PROPERTY.
BUT THAT WAS WITHDRAWN ABOUT A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
AND, UM, FOLLOWING UP ON THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S APPROPRIATE IN A MIXED USE TO GATE, UM, THIS AREA, I'M LOOKING AT THE POCKET PARKS, UM, AS, ARE THEY CONSIDERED AN AMENITY FOR THIS PROJECT OR FOR THE ENTIRE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT? SO THIS, SO THEY MEET THEIR CIVIC, UM, THE, THE CIVIC FOR BOTH DEVELOPMENTS ON THE 19 ACRE PROPERTY MM-HMM
THERE'S A VERY SIGNIFICANT, UM, PEDESTRIAN TRAIL CONNECTION OVER TO BROOKSIDE PARK.
AND SO THEY, THEY EXCEEDED THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT.
SO THE OPEN SPACE AND WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD ONLY BE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S, THEY'RE NOT, IT'S NOT CIVIC SPACE, IT'S AMENITY SPACE WITHIN THIS WELL, OKAY.
AND THEN COMMUNITY POOL, AND I SAID YOU, I GUESS THERE WAS A COMMUNITY CENTER AS WELL, THAT IF IT WERE GATED, IT'S NOT LIKE IT, UH, PEOPLE IN THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ARE BEING EXCLUDED FOR SOMETHING THAT YEAH.
YOU'RE NOT RESTRICTING, UH, A PUBLIC AMENITY.
SO JUST TO EXTEND THAT, UH, FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS REALLY, THIS PARCEL IS A SOLE USE.
IT'S RESIDENTIAL ONLY, CORRECT? IT IS AS IT SITS BY ITSELF, BUT IT IS RIGHT.
IT IS PART OF IT WOULD BE PART OF THAT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET.
AND THIS CAME UP WITH REGARD TO THE GATE IN THE LAST HEARING.
BUT IT, TO EXTEND COMMISSIONER MANLEY'S COMMENT, THERE'S NO RETAIL IN HERE.
THERE'S NO RESTAURANT, THERE'S NO OFFICE, THERE'S NOTHING PUBLIC ORIENTED.
SO HELP ME UNDER, SO I APOLOGIZE 'CAUSE I WASN'T AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT HAVE WE EVER HAD A SITUATION LIKE THIS WHERE WE HAD A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT APPROVED AND LATER THEY CAME BACK AND ADDED ANOTHER PARCEL TO THIS MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT? I MEAN, AND WHAT WOULD BE THE, WOULD THERE BE ISSUES DOWN THE ROAD? FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE SEVERAL MIXED USE ONE PARTICULARLY I THINK OF ON WINDWARD.
WHAT WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR? AND IS THERE ISSUES WITH THIS MOVING FORWARD? SO WE'VE HAD MANY INSTANCES WHERE, UM, ADDITIONAL LAND HAS BEEN ADDED INTO A MASTER PLAN, NOT NECESSARILY SPECIFICALLY A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
HAVE TO THINK, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF, WE DON'T HAVE POSSIBLY THE MILTON PARK, THAT WAS ONE OF OUR FIRST MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS OUT OFF OF NORTH POINT, UH, PARKWAY AND ROCK MILL.
I THINK WE DID COME BACK AND ADD INTO THAT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THAT WAS ALSO BEFORE WE HAD THE MU UM, THE CURRENT MU ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE CONCERNS THAT IT'S SETTING ANY KIND OF PRECEDENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IN FACT, IT'S MAKING THE, THE PORTMAN BROOKSIDE A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WHOLE WITH RESPECT TO THE MINIMUM, UH, LOT SIZE THAT WE, THAT OUR CODE REQUIRES OF 25 ACRES, UH, WITH THIS PROPERTY ADDED TO IT.
UM, IT DOES COMPLY AND WE DO BELIEVE THAT IT MEETS THE PERCENTAGES.
AGAIN, WE, WE ADVERTISE THAT OFFICE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE OFFICE, RIGHT? YEAH.
THE OFFICE IS, WELL, WE, WE THINK THAT IT, IT MEETS IT BECAUSE WE, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE ENTIRE POD A IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE.
UM, BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERNS ABOUT LOOKING AT THOSE ENTIRE PODS IN A MASTER PLAN.
SO AGAIN, WE DID ADVERTISE THE VARIANCE.
WE DO ACKNOWLEDGE IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY ACROSS THE
[00:25:01]
STREET, IT, IT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THAT 25% OFFICE.NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
I'M, I'M GONNA ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD AND MAKE A PRESENTATION.
UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, I'M WARREN CHARLIE, PRESIDENT OF THE PROVINCE GROUP.
UM, THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT.
I KNOW THIS IS A SPECIAL MEETING.
EVERYBODY'S BUSY WITH FAMILY AND STUFF, BUT THANK YOU FOR GETTING, UH, THIS MEETING RESET BACK UP.
OBVIOUSLY WE WE'RE HERE ON MARCH 5TH.
WE WENT THROUGH A VERY SIMILAR PLAN.
UM, IT WAS APPROVED BY YOU GUYS WITH, UH, EVEN A FEW MORE VARIANCES THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR NOW.
UM, WE WOULD ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
I THINK THE ONLY THING, UM, FROM STAFF CONDITIONS THAT WE WERE ASKING WAS TO, ON NUMBER 13, IS THAT THE, UH, CONDITION NUMBER 13, THE PRO THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT MAY BE GATED AND DEPICTED ON THE SITE PLAN PREPARED BY KIMBERLY HORN, DATED 4 0 1 26 IS APPROVED BY STAFF.
UM, AS MICHAEL WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION, THIS ACTUALLY MORE COMPLIES WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND KINDA UNDERSTAND THE PORTMAN.
WE HAVE THE PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT WITH PORTMAN AND WE ARE DOING A PARTNERSHIP WITH 'EM.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
NOT PORTMAN, BECAUSE THEY DON'T DO THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.
UM, BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, MORE COMPLIES, UH, WITH FEWER VARIANCES.
THE, THE OFFICE BUILDING THAT'S THERE IS, UH, LIKE 20% LEASED IS, IT'S VERY FUNCTIONALLY OBSOLETE.
SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPTION, UM, THAT'S OUT THERE.
AND OFFICE BUILDINGS ARE TIMING, YOU KNOW, UM, THANKS FOR COMING TODAY.
IF NOT, WE WEREN'T GONNA MEET THE TIMING WITH THE AMERICAN COUNCIL MEETING TO KEEP OUR CONTRACT IN FULL WITH THE OFFICE BUILDING.
WE KNOW WE HAD THE ALREADY WENT IN MARCH AND WE'RE REDOING THIS AGAIN.
UM, BUT I THINK WE, WE, WE FIT THE INTENT OF THE ZONING BETTER.
WE, WE DID MILTON PARK WITH AMIE AND POPE AND LAND.
WE DID ADD, UM, AS MICKEL SAID, UH, MORE LAND TO THAT.
WE DID THE CONDOS ON THE FRONT, UM, OF MILTON PARK AND THEY WEREN'T ORIGINALLY PART OF THE PLAN.
UM, IT WAS A VERY SIMILAR DEAL.
UM, WE ZONED IT RM 10 AND IT'S 20 UNITS AN ACRE, BUT WE HAVE LAND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS PART OF THAT PARK THAT BRINGS IT TO 10 UNITS AN ACRES.
SO THAT WAS DONE BACK IN 2001.
I MEAN, SO WE, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, THIS HAS DONE BEFORE.
I'D LIKE TO, UM, RESERVE ANY TIME FOR REBUTTAL OR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY.
UM, SINCE THE GATE SEEMS TO BE YOU, YOU WANT THE GATE, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND I'M ASSUMING YOU WANT IT TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM PARKING THAT DON'T LIVE IN THERE, NOT PARKING.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE PARKING, YOU HAVE PEOPLE JUST DRIVING THROUGH AT NIGHT.
YOU KNOW, WE, THE PROVINCE GROUP, WE ARE A LIFESTYLE BUILDER.
SO WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS ALL THE LANDSCAPING, ALL THE EXTERIORS ARE ALL MAINTAINED BY THE HOA.
YOU, YOU DON'T NEED TO OWN A LAWNMOWER, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A POOL AND AMENITIES.
UM, IN TODAY'S THING, ATLANTA'S A LOCKUP AND LEAVE BUYER.
I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SECOND HOMES IN THE MOUNTAINS, THE LAKE, THE BEACH.
THEY'RE NOT THERE ALL THE TIME.
AND THEY, AND PEOPLE ARE JUST, UM, LIKE TO KNOW THAT IT, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SECURE.
SECURE, JUST KEEPING, AND IT'S NOT EVER ADVERTISED AS, AS, AS, UM, YOU KNOW, CRIME THING OR PROTECTION.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T KEEP ANYTHING.
BUT IT DOES MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.
AND WE, WE DO SELL A LOT OF, UM, WOMEN, YOU KNOW, UH, EITHER MARRIED OR DIVORCED OR, AND, AND, AND IT MATTERS AND IT DOES VALUE.
WE DID A, A DEVELOPMENT IN JOHNS CREEK, UM, RIGHT ON ABBOTT BRIDGE CALLED NORWOOD.
AND THE HOUSES SOLD FOR A MILLION, ONE TO 1,000,004.
AND WE DIDN'T GATE IT BECAUSE WE HAD A, UM, WE, WE, WE WERE ZONED TO GATE IT.
BUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS WHEN WE DESIGNED IT, WE DIDN'T HAVE A SITE, WE HAD A SITE DISTANCE PROBLEM THAT WAS A SAFETY ISSUE.
WELL, WE DIDN'T GATE IT AND IT WAS LIKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS DIFFERENCE WHAT PEOPLE WOULD PAY FOR THE HOUSES GATED VERSUS NON GATED.
AND, AND A GATE'S NOT THAT EXPENSIVE.
I MEAN THE GATE HAS COST, THERE'S 25 HOUSES, THE GATE'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
BUT, UM, BUT THE OTHER THING IS THESE GATES, THEY'RE OPEN DURING THE DAY.
THEY CLOSE AT FIVE OR SIX AT NIGHT.
IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH,
[00:30:01]
HARD FOR THE AMAZON TRUCK TO GET THERE AND THEIR ALL CARS ARE BACKED UP AND ALL THAT.WE GOT PLENTY OF STACKING ABILITY WITH THE, UH, MEMORY, UH, LIVING NEXT DOOR.
UM, SO DURING, THEY, THEY PRETTY MUCH OPEN AT SEVEN IN THE MORNING AND CLOSE AT, YOU KNOW, FIVE TO SEVEN DURING THE WINTER HOURS.
WE CLOSE 'EM EARLIER DURING THE SUMMER.
THEY PROBABLY CLOSE AT SEVEN OR EIGHT.
THEN ONCE WE FINISH IT, WE TURN IT OVER AND OMAR'S CAN DO WHAT THEY DO.
BUT NORMALLY IT'S, THOSE ARE THE HOURS.
SO IF THE GATES CLOSED AND I'M A PEDESTRIAN AND I LIVE IN THERE, THERE'S A WAY TO GET THROUGH WITH, YEAH, ALL THE WALKWAYS HAVE PEDESTRIAN GATES, UHHUH, AND THEY'RE OPEN THERE.
WE DON'T RESTRICT ANY PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.
I THINK I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, MICHAEL.
UM, SINCE THE CONDITION IS NOT PROPOSED, THE, THE PROPOSED ELEMENT SHALL NOT BE GATED.
IS IT BECAUSE IT'S IN A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT OR IT'S 'CAUSE OF THE DISTRICT OR BOTH? SO IT'S IN, THIS IS THE SAME AS WHAT WE, WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS BACK TO, UH, TO YOU BACK IN ON MARCH 5TH.
SO IT'S, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT WITHIN BROOKSIDE AND WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T RECOM OR WE DIDN'T SUPPORT THE GATING PREVIOUSLY, WE DON'T THINK THAT IT'S THE WORST THING IN, IN THE WORLD.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OUR PRECEDENT AND CONSISTENCY IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THESE THINGS.
SO IF YOU ARE TRYING TO CREATE A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT, WE DO THINK THINGS SHOULD BE OPEN.
BUT WE ALSO DO UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT'S, UH, REQUEST.
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE LEFT IT AT, IN THAT CONDITION, CONDITION NUMBER 13 AS WE HAD IT PREVIOUSLY BECAUSE THE CHANGE IN THE ZONING WAS FROM R 10 M TO MIXED USE.
SO IT REALLY REINFORCES THAT IT SHOULD PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE CLOSED OFF.
HOWEVER, THIS DEVELOPMENT, AS IT'S BEEN POINTED OUT, IS REALLY A SINGLE USE AT, AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION.
IT WILL BE INTEGRATED WITH BROOKSIDE AND WITH THE PORTMAN BROOKSIDE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PEDESTRIANS WILL BE ABLE TO FLOW THROUGH FAIRLY EASILY.
AND ALL THE OPEN SPACE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE FOR THE, UM, FOR THE RESIDENTS OF, OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.
THE CIVIC SPACE IS LOCATED AND THE, THE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET.
SO FROM THE, WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THE APPLICANT TO SAY IS THE PEDESTRIAN, THERE'LL BE NO GATE FOR PEDESTRIANS, BUT THE GATE WILL BE OPEN DURING THE DAY, CLOSE TO NIGHT PEOPLE CAN WALK IN AND OUT.
I, I THINK I'M BEING SYMPATHETIC TO THE FACT THAT BECAUSE OF THE, THE SINGLE USE WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY, ALTHOUGH WITHIN THE BROADER MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, THAT THERE WOULD BE SECURITY CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE JUST DRIVE AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO COME OUT.
I DON'T LIKE IT, BUT, UH, I ALSO DON'T WANNA SET A PRECEDENT WHEREBY SOMEBODY CONSIDER THE SAME IN USE DEVELOPMENT.
HOMES WE'LL GATE IT, SO WE'LL, WE'LL DEBATE THAT AND SO WE GO WITH IT.
YEAH, I SUSPECT TOO WITH THE, THE PORTMAN BROOKSIDE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, THEY'LL HAVE PROGRAMMING, THEY'LL HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS JUST LIKE AVALON DOES, UM, FOR HOLIDAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND TO BE ABLE TO GET IT OFF AND RESTRICT, YOU KNOW, PEOP OUTSIDERS FROM COMING IN AND PARKING, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
I DO UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT POINT AND, AND WE DO TOO.
BUT AGAIN, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT TYPE OF PRESIDENT YOU SET.
SO LET, LET'S SEE WHAT OTHER COMMISSIONERS THINK AND THEN WE'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MICHAEL? ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA OPEN THESE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND ON IN FAVOR, COME FORWARD SEEING NONE, EVERYBODY IN OPPOSITION.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD BEFORE I TURN THIS OVER TO THE BOARD? NO, SIR.
UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
BUT THE, THE GATE IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THIS PROJECT AND, AND AGAIN, WE'RE TAKING DOWN A SEVERAL FIVE STORY OFFICE BUILDING AND REDEVELOPING IT INTO FOR SALE HIGH-END TOWN HOMES, WHICH IT'S HARD TO MAKE THE MATH WORK.
I WOULD NEVER, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS 40 YEARS, I NEVER THOUGHT I'D BE TEARING DOWN OFFICE BUILDINGS AND BUILDING TOWNHOUSES.
SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT WHEN YOU CAN.
THE WAY YOU FIRST CONDITION 13 SAYS MAYBE GATED.
AND WE USUALLY DON'T USE THAT.
UM, MAYBE IT'S EITHER GONNA BE OR NOT.
WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS THAT, UM, WE, WE LIKE TO GATE IT, BUT WHEN WE GET INTO THE LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT GET INTO TRAFFIC AND SITE DISTANCE.
AND LIKE THE ONE I MENTIONED TO YOU IN JOHNS
[00:35:01]
CREEK, WE, WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA GATE THAT ONE.AND IN THE DESIGN WE HAD AN ISSUE THAT WE COULDN'T GATE IT.
'CAUSE THE GATES HAVE TO ULTIMATELY BE APPROVED BY FIRE TRANSPORTATION.
AND SO WE HAVEN'T DESIGNED THE WHOLE ENTRANCEWAY AND EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, THE GRADES TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS, BUT WE THINK IT'S GONNA WORK AND IF IT WORKS WE WOULD LIKE TO GATE IT.
BUT IF WE WROTE A CONDITION THAT IT HAD TO BE GATED AND SOMETHING CAME UP, THEN WE HAVE A CONFLICT THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN BUILD A NEIGHBORHOOD 'CAUSE IT'S GOTTA BE GATED.
I TURN THIS OVER TO THE BOARD FOR MOTION OR DISCUSSION? WELL, JUST ON THE GATE ISSUE, I, I, I TEND TO LEAN ON ALLOWING THE, THE APPLICANT TO HAVE A GATE BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF SECURITY, AND I KNOW TODD DOWN HERE, HIS, HE HAS WANTED HIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE GATED.
UM, AND HE LIVES DOWN, DOWN IN ALPHARETTA.
SO I, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT IS A MIXED USE AND THERE IS GONNA BE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN TO THAT AREA TO PARK FOR, YOU KNOW, ALL SORTS OF ACTIVITIES THERE.
IF I WAS A SINGLE PERSON, I WOULD WANT THAT.
IF I WAS GONNA BUY ONE OF THOSE TOWN HOMES, I WOULD DEFINITELY WANT IT GATED FOR THAT REASON FOR SECURITY AND THE FACT THAT IT'S OPEN DURING THE DAY AND, UM, IT'S PEDESTRIAN WALKABLE.
SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF ALLOWING THE GATE.
SO TO CLARIFY, I THINK HE DID SAY THAT DURING CONSTRUCTION THAT, BUT THEY WOULD BE TURNED OVER TO HOA EVENTUALLY.
JUST TO CLARIFY, THE GATE IS OPEN DURING THE DAY AND CLOSE AT NIGHT DURING CONSTRUCTION, AND THEN IT'S UP TO THE HOA FOLLOWING THE DELIVERY TO HOA TO STICK WITH.
IS THAT TRUE? ONCE WE TURN OVER THE HOA WE CAN'T CONTROL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.
AND, AND IT, IF THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT, THEY HAVE TO VOTE, YOU KNOW, 67% TO CHANGE IT.
AND, AND, AND SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD DO, BUT NORMALLY THEY KEEP IT SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF AMAZON'S COMING, YOU CAN'T GET YOUR PACKAGE AND THEY CAN'T GET THE GATE.
I MEAN, SO MOST OF 'EM, THEY, THEY DO IT THE SAME WAY WE, WE LEFT IT, BUT WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT AFTER WE LEAVE.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION WHILE YOU'RE UP HERE ABOUT THE PEDESTRIAN WALK TO THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? IS THAT LIKE IN DOWNTOWN ALFREDA HERE WHERE THERE'S LIGHTS? IS IT A CONTROLLED, UH, SAFE CROSSWALK SINCE THIS IS THE MAIN PARKWAY TO CONNECT? SO WE, WE WOULD'VE SIDEWALKS COMING IN THE MAIN GATES THAT WOULD BE, IT'S SIDEWALKS.
THEN THE WAY THE UNITS FACE OUT ON THE SITE PLAN, THERE'S LIKE FOUR OR FIVE MAJOR WALKWAYS MM-HMM
THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO COME LIKE RIGHT FROM GEORGIA STATE AND COME RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
THEN WE GOT THAT MAIN PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY.
FROM OUR LITTLE PARK THAT GOES TO THE PORTMAN DEVELOPMENT, THAT GOES TO ALL THE RETAIL.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S ABOUT SIX WALKWAYS THAT ARE ACCESS DUE TO THE MAIN ROAD.
UH, I THINK MY, MY ONLY REAL COMMENT AND UH, ALLUDED TO THIS THE FIRST TIME THIS WAS HEARD IS, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION OUT HERE IN THE CIVILIAN WORLD ABOUT, UH, HOW DENSE ALPHARETTA'S BECOMING, UH, SO A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ENTIRELY TOWN HOMES LOOKS TO CIVILIANS AS CONTRIBUTING TO HIGHER DENSITY.
HENCE MY QUESTIONS ABOUT ARE THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCTS BEING, UM, INCLUDED IN THIS GENERAL AREA? THAT BEING SAID, UH, MOST PEOPLE NEED TO BE REMINDED AND I FULLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UH, RESIDENTIAL REPRESENTS CAN SIGNIFICANTLY LESS CONGESTION AND DENSITY THAN OFFICE WHEN FULLY OCCUPIED.
SO IN THAT SENSE, UM, I'M HAVING TO BE OKAY WITH THE NOTION OF AN ENTIRELY TOWN HOME COMMUNITY.
AND I FOR THE SAME REASONS ALSO SUPPORT AN INTERIOR AND, AND INSIDE THE, THE MIXED USE GATE BECAUSE IT IS A UNIQUE USE WITHIN THE MIXED USE.
UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO, UM, PROTECT, UH, THE AMENITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS, UM, BECAUSE PEOPLE WITHIN THE, THE MIXED USE WHO ARE JUST SORT OF EXPLORING MIGHT SAY, AH, WHO HERE, COOL, I'LL JUST USE IT.
SO IN THAT SENSE, I CAN SUPPORT THAT, THAT PARTICULAR, UH, CONDITION.
I CAN SUPPORT THE CONDITION FOR THE GATE AS WELL.
UM, MY CONCERN IS ABOUT ABSORPTION WITH THE TOWN HALL MARKET BEING BUILT, BUT THAT'S A BIGGER TOPIC.
I THINK THE LAYOUT OF THIS PROJECT WORKS WELL, BUT THE ABSORPTION WOULD BE MY CONCERN AND DELIVERY.
[00:40:01]
AGREE WITH MY, UH, FELLOW COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE GATE.UH, ONCE AGAIN, TO PIGGYBACK ON COMMISSIONER MANLEY'S COMMENT, YOU KNOW, BIG PICTURE, ANYTIME WE CAN CONVERT 130,000 SQUARE FEET OF LEGACY UNPERFORMING OFFICE WITH A SEA OF 597 PARKING SPACES TO RESIDENTIAL, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING.
AND NOW WITH THE WALK HOME PREDOMINANTLY BECOMING VERY POPULAR, THE NEED FOR OFFICE IS BECOMING A LITTLE LESS.
AND, UM, I CAN SEE A TREND CHANGING THREAD OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS WHEREBY IT'S GONNA BE MORE RESIDENTIAL, PROBABLY DIFFERENT DESIGNS TO ACCOMMODATE HOME OFFICES.
AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS IS GONNA GO, BUT WE ARE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, HIGH DENSITIES IN SOME AREAS AND OTHERS NOT.
AND THIS IS ONE THAT I BELIEVE 'CAUSE OF THE COLLEGE LOOKS LIKE MORE LIKE, ALMOST LIKE DOWNTOWN, RIGHT? WHERE THIS CAN BE ACCOMMODATED.
ALL RIGHT, ANYONE WHO WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION, MR. CHAIR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE MP DASH 26 DASH ZERO THREE SLASH C DASH TWO SIX DASH ZERO ONE SLASH Z DASH 26 DASH ZERO ONE SLASH CU DASH 26 DASH ZERO FIVE SLASH V DASH 26 DASH OH TWO TPG BROOKSIDE WEST.
AS PER THE CONDITIONS READ BY MR. WOODMAN WITH TWO EDITS.
ONE EDIT TO NUMBER 13, UH, PER THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
I'D LIKE THAT TO NOW READ THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE PERMITTED TO BE GATED.
AND THEN ON NUMBER 20, LET'S ADD NUMBER 28 THAT SAYS THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND.
AND THIS WAS PER MR. WOODMAN'S RECOMMENDATION.
UH, NUMBER 28 WILL BE THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATION SHALL BE MIXED USE SECOND MOISTURE HAS BEEN MADE PROPERLY.
I JUST WANNA HAVE A ONE MINOR CLARIFICATION ON 13.
UM, DO YOU WANT TO KEEP THE OTHER LANGUAGE AS DEPICTED ON THE SITE PLAN PREPARED BY KIMLEY JUAN DATED 4 1 26 AS APPROVED BY STAFF? THIS IS ON THE APPLICANT'S NUMBER 13 ON THE SCREEN.
TODD, I HAVE CONFLICTING, UH, EDITS TO THAT.
SO ON THE SCREEN, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT MAY DATED AS DEPICTED ON THE SITE PLAN PREPARED BY KIMLEY HORN DATED AS SO WAS WHO, WHO AUTHORED THIS? DID THE APPLICANT.
SO YES, I'D LIKE TO SUBSTITUTE, UH, FOR NUMBER 13 AS IT'S READ ON THE SCREEN, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT MAY BE GATED AS DEPICTED ON THE SITE PLAN PREPARED BY KIMLEY HORN DATED 4 1 26 AS APPROVED BY STAFF.
I HAVE AN ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION PROBABLY FROM, UM, THE APPLICANT OR MICHAEL.
WHAT, UH, WHAT WOULD STAFF BE APPROVING, I'M SORRY SIR.
THERE IS THE, IT IS APPROVED BY STAFF OR THEY APPROVE THE, THE GATE ITSELF OR THE LOCATION OR YEAH, I MEAN WHEN WE GET INTO IT, THAT'S THE, THE LAND DISTURBANCE STUFF THAT, THAT STAFF WOULD BE, UH, TRA TRANSPORTATION STAFF WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, FIRE STAFF WOULD BE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BE A GATE THERE.
AND SO WE DON'T WANNA PUT A GATE THERE IF WE THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE A PER A SAFETY ISSUE OR VEHICLE ISSUE OR SITE DISTANCE ISSUE.
SO WE HAVEN'T DONE ALL THAT ENGINEERING YET TO, AND RAN IT BY ALL THE DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT BY SITE PLAN IT LOOKS LIKE IT.
MY ENGINEER WOULD CLEAR MY HORN, THINKS THERE'S NO PROBLEMS, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW.
SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE HAVE THAT WRITTEN THAT WAY I KNOW WE HAVE USED THIS LANGUAGE QUITE A BIT.
UH, MICHAEL, WHEN WE SAY STAFF, DO WE MEAN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STAFF OR CITY STAFF? WHICH WOULD INCLUDE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS? PARDON MY IGNORANCE, COUNCIL MEMBERS,
THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE ONES, UH, THAT WILL BE REVIEWING THE LAND OF SERVANTS PERMIT PER, AND THEN YOU'D HAVE TO REFER TO WHATEVER DEPARTMENT YOU NEED TO REFER TO.
EVE NEED BE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR EXAMPLE.
SO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WILL COORDINATE THAT APPROVAL WITH WHOEVER IN THE CITY NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED? CORRECT.
[00:45:01]
IT'S THE LANGUAGE THAT IS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT.NOW I'M, I'M CLEAR I WAS GONNA, TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE MEAN WHEN WE SAY BY STAFF.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? CONDITION 13.
OKAY, I'LL SECOND THE CHANGE AS FULLY READ ON NUMBER 13 IN THE, UH, STAFF REPORT.
YEAH, THAT, THAT WAS A CLARIFICATION.
NOT NECESSARY, A CHANGE IN MOTION, BUT IT'S QUITE IN ORDER.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
MOTION CARRIES AND IT'S GONNA GO BEFORE COUNCIL ON MAY 4TH, WHICH IS A COUPLE OF WEEKS FROM NOW.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING TONIGHT,
YEAH, I'LL SAY NORTH TON IS THE HIGHEST PERFORMING OFFICE MARKET IN 2025.
JUST FOR YOU TO YEAH, IN WORKSHOP.
JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN A UPDATE ON WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN A COUPLE WEEKS, BUT I DO HAVE A LIST OF SOME OF THE ITEMS. YOU GOT EVERYTHING? SHUT OFF.
SO THE MAY 7TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, WE HAVE FIVE ITEMS THAT ARE SCHEDULED TO BE BEFORE YOU.
UM, WE HAVE THE EMPIRE AND TOLL BROTHERS, OLD MILTON PARKWAY DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS LOCATION.
UH, THAT'S, I BELIEVE THEY'RE AT 200 TOWN HOMES WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, HALF WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY HALF ARE DEVELOPED BY EMPIRE, HALF WOULD BE DEVELOPED BY TOLL BROTHERS.
THEN WE HAVE A REZONING REQUEST OF A, UM, LONG NARROW TRACT LAND OFF OF MAYFIELD ROAD.
IT'S A REZONING FROM AGRICULTURE TO, UH, OUR 22 LOTS, HALF ACRE LOTS.
THEY ORIGINALLY HAD A FUTURE LAND USE CHANGE, UM, TO ALLOW R 15 ZONING BECAUSE THEY'RE SURROUNDED BY R 15.
WE TOLD THEM THAT WE WOULD NOT SUPPORT THAT AND THEY DID CHANGE TO MEET THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
UM, WE HAVE TWO TEXT AMENDMENTS THAT WILL BE COMING BEFORE YOU.
WE HAVE TEXT AMENDMENTS RELATED TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
SO WHEN WE DID THE ORIGINAL SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE, WE FORGOT TO INCLUDE THE FOUR DOWNTOWN ZONING DISTRICTS AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF INTEREST IN, UH, NOT A LOT OF INTEREST, BUT WE'VE HAD A FEW PEOPLE COME TO US THAT WE'VE HAD TO REJECT THEIR APPLICATION FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL IN DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT ZONING.
WE FORGOT TO INCLUDE THOSE FOUR ZONING DISTRICTS.
SO THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING WITH THIS TEXT AMENDMENT.
IT ADDS THE FOUR DOWNTOWN ZONING DISTRICTS AND IT ALSO ADDS THE PSC ZONING DISTRICT AND YOU HAVE TO GET A CONDITIONAL USE IN PSC, UH, TO ALLOW A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
SO IN THE NORTH POINT AREA, WE DO ALLOW RESIDENTIAL WITHIN PSC, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'RE ADDING THOSE FIVE ZONING DISTRICTS.
UH, WE DO ALSO ADD A SENTENCE TO THE DEFINITION OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL TO CLARIFY THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS DO NOT INCLUDE RENTING PORTIONS OF RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS OR BEDROOMS WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING.
SO WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE COME IN ASK FOR THAT, AND WE'VE HAD TO TELL THEM NO AND THAT THEY HAVE TO, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT 'CAUSE THAT REP REPRESENTS MULTIPLE FAMILIES.
UM, WE ALSO ARE BRINGING FORWARD A, UM, TEXT AMENDMENTS, UH, RELATED TO PICKLEBALL.
UM, SO WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES IN, IN SOME OF THE, A COUPLE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, IN THE CITY WHERE TENNIS COURTS WERE CONVERTED TO PICKLEBALL COURTS AND NOW WE'RE HAVING NOISE ISSUES.
THIS ORDINANCE WOULD NOT ADDRESS EXISTING ISSUES.
UM, BUT THIS ORDINANCE WOULD ADDRESS ANY PICKLEBALL COURTS TO, TO THAT WOULD COME IN WHETHER THEY'RE NEW CONSTRUCTION OR CONVERSIONS.
WE'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THIS.
THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH THROUGH THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION.
UM, AND THEY, THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU DON'T ALLOW PICKLEBALL COURTS WITHIN A DISTANCE OF A BOW ANYWHERE.
WE'VE SEEN ANYWHERE FROM 200 TO 500 FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE A PROHIBITED AREA.
[00:50:01]
AND WE'RE, WE'RE RECOMMENDING, I BELIEVE IT'S ZERO TO 250 FEET IS THE PROHIBITED AREA OVER 250 FEET AND UP TO, I WANNA SAY 800 FEET.YOU REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE AND IF IT'S OVER 800 FEET AWAY FROM A RESIDENCE, THEN IT'S, THEN IT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
YOU, YOU PROB IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ANSWER THIS, THAT'S FINE, BUT WHAT HAPPENS TO EXISTING PICKLEBALL UH, FACILITIES THAT DON'T MEET THAT REQUIREMENT? NOTHING.
SO IT'S, THIS APPLIES TO NEW GOT IT.
THIS DOES NOT ADDRESS EXISTING, UM, AN EXISTING SITUATION.
TYPICALLY CODE CHANGES DO USUALLY APPLY TO NEW, THERE ARE WAYS TO RETROACTIVELY GO BACK, BUT THEY'RE VERY, UH, DIFFICULT.
BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS THAT IN A COUPLE WEEKS ON MAY 7TH.
AND THEN THE LAST THING THAT WOULD, WE HAVE SCHEDULED FOR MAY 7TH, AND PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THE TRANSMITTAL HEARING FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.
SO WE WILL HAVE OUR CONSULTANT MKSK, WE WILL BRING THEM IN TO GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION OF THE DRAFT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.
UM, AND WE NEED TO GET THAT BEFORE THIS BOARD SO THAT WE CAN THEN TAKE IT TO BACK TO OUR STEERING COMMITTEE.
UH, WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED WITH, WITH THEM ON MAY 18TH TO GO OVER THE DRAFT PLAN.
UH, ALSO ON MAY 18TH, WE WILL HAVE THE, UH, CONSULTANT PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL.
SO WE NEED THIS TRANSMITTAL HEARING TO MEET THE REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARINGS AS WELL SO THAT WE CAN TRANSMIT IT TO THE STATE FOR REVIEW.
AND THEN IT'LL BE BROUGHT BACK TO COUNCIL TOWARDS THE END OF JUNE FOR ADOPTION.
I'M SORRY, WE HAD A DROP SOMEWHERE.
WE DO NOT HAVE A DRAFT AVAILABLE YET.
SO WE ARE, WE'RE, THERE ARE CONSULTANT IS WORKING VERY, VERY HARD, UH, TO PULL EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
UM, WE'VE, AT THIS POINT WE DO HAVE THE EXISTING CONDITION AND TRENDS DOCUMENT COMPLETED.
THEY HAVE THE GOALS, POLICIES AND STRATEGIES COMPLETED.
UM, THEY, WE HAD A DRAFT OF THE FUTURE LAND USE, UH, PLAN, UH, THAT LOOKS GOOD.
THE LITTLE, COUPLE LITTLE TWEAKS THAT WE ASK THE APPLICANT TO MAKE AND THEN THEIR WORK, THEY'RE FINALIZING THE SHORT TERM WORK PROGRAM RIGHT NOW.
WE WILL HAVE THAT DRAFT OF THE PLAN IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION PACKET THOUGH THAT WILL BE, UM, PUT OUT THE FRIDAY BEFORE MAY 1ST.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU GIVE US A HIGH LEVEL FEEL FOR THE AMOUNT OF CHANGE FROM THOSE RECENT COMP PLANS? YEAH, SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CHANGE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO IF YOU REMEMBER IN 20 20, 20 21 WHEN WE UPDATED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STAFF DID THE UPDATE AND IT WAS A, IT WAS A MAJOR UPDATE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO IT WAS A WHOLESALE REWRITE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND SO WE INVESTED A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO THAT PLAN.
THIS REPRESENTS JUST THE REQUIRED FIVE YEAR UPDATE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT'S NOT TYPICAL FOR THERE TO BE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES AT A FIVE YEAR UPDATE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE SAW IN THIS EFFORT.
UM, I THINK THERE WERE FOUR TRENDS THAT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE, THAT WE GOT BACK FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THE COMP PLAN, THERE WERE FOUR TRENDS.
UM, OFFICE RESILIENCE, UM, SMART GROWTH, GROWTH MANAGEMENT, UM, OPEN SPACE, TRAILS, TREES, AND THEN NORTH POINT.
SO THERE'S KIND OF FOUR FOCUS AREAS.
YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE APPLICANT WILL KIND OF PRESENT KIND OF WHAT'S CHANGED.
SO YOU WILL SEE A FEW CHANGES TO ADDRESS THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THE GOALS, POLICIES AND STRATEGIES.
THERE ARE VERY MINIMAL CHANGES TO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.
SO THE ONLY THING ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT'S CHANGES ANY CHANGES THAT WE'VE HAD AS A RESULT OF COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE YOU IN COUNCIL THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED, THE MAP HAS BEEN UPDATED TO ACCO SHOW TO REFLECT THOSE.
AND THEN ALSO THE WINWARD LCI DID MAKE SOME LAND USE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, AND SPECIFICALLY AT THAT, UM, MAIN INTERSECTION OF GEORGIA 400 AND WINDWARD PARKWAY.
SO THE MCKINLEY HOMES MORRIS ROAD ITEM THAT YOU JUST RECENTLY SAW, THAT WINDWARD LCI SUGGESTED THAT SHOULD BE THAT DEVELOPMENT.
THAT CORNER SHOULD BE A, UM, TOWN CENTER TYPE DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO WE ARE CHANGING THAT FUTURE LAND USE OF THAT PROPERTY OR WE'RE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE THAT FROM COMMERCIAL TO MIXED USE TO ALLOW FOR THAT, THAT SITE TO DEVELOP, UH, REDEVELOP.
UM, THEY'RE ALSO SHOWING THE WINDWARD TERRACES COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT CHANGING THAT FROM COMMERCIAL TO
[00:55:01]
MIXED USE.THERE WAS A BIG FOCUS, UM, IN THE WINDWARD LCI AND IN FACT WE HAD THE ULI, URBAN LAND INSTITUTE COME IN AND DO A TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PANEL.
UH, AND THEY LOOKED AT DOING, UH, LIKE REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT AREA WITH A, UH, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THOSE ARE REALLY THE ONLY TWO CHANGES THAT ARE RESULTING THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGED THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.
SO MICHAEL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE ON WINDWARD PARK WHERE, WHERE THE, THE HILTON IS RIGHT THERE.
THE, THIS IS THE COMMERCIAL PLAZA WINDWARD, I THINK.
I CAN'T, I ALWAYS FORGET THE, IS IT, IS IT THE WINDWARD PLAZA IS WHERE THEY HELP WITH THE IHOP, THE STREET WHERE THE IHOP AND THE CRACKER BARREL.
AND ALL THAT OVER BY CONTIN CONTINUUM THEN IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM, FROM THERE.
THE LCI RECOMMENDED THAT THE CONTINUUM PROPERTY BE MIXED USE.
THAT WAS ALREADY CHANGED TO MIXED USE THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY ACROSS, UH, WINDWARD PARKWAY FROM IT AS MIXED USE AS WELL.
YEAH, SO NOT REALLY A LOT OF CHANGES HERE.
SO, UM, BUT THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THOSE.
AND THEN ON THE SHORT TERM WORK PROGRAM, WE PULL OUT THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED SINCE FIVE YEARS AGO.
AND THEN WE ADD IN THE NEW, UM, PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN OUR PLANNING STUDIES THAT WE PUT TOGETHER SINCE THE COMP PLAN WAS LAST UPDATED.
SO THE WINWARD, LCI WILL CAPTURE THOSE, UH, SHORT TERM WORK PROGRAM ITEMS AND ADD THOSE IN.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR COMING BACK.
I KNOW THAT THIS TAKES TIME OUTTA YOUR DAY, BUT WE APPRECIATE IT.