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          GOOD 
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EVENING, LADIES AND 
          [1. CALL TO ORDER]
GENTLEMEN. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US HERE THIS EVENING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN PUBLIC HEARING MAY 18TH, 2026. 
          BEFORE WE GET STARTED, JUST A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING HERE. 
          FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MIGHT HAVE SHOWN UP FOR AN APPLICATION OR A ZONING ISSUE THAT WILL NOT BE HEARD TONIGHT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE FOLLOWING ITEMS HAVE BEEN DEFERRED AND WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED THIS EVENING. 
          FIRST IS Z DASH 26 DASH OH FOUR SLASH V DASH 26 DASH 0 6 14 25 MAYFIELD ROAD. 
          THAT WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED THIS EVENING. 
          SECOND IS THE ORDINANCE FOR ALCOHOL ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENTS, THIRD BEING MP DASH 26 DASH OH FIVE CLUP DASH 26 DASH OH THREE Z DASH 26 DASH OH THREE SLASH V DASH 26 DASH OH THREE EMPIRE OLD MILTON PARKWAY, CAMDEN POND. 
          SO IF YOU WERE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS, YOU MAY HAVE JUST SAVED YOURSELF A FEW HOURS TIME THIS EVENING. 
          THEY WILL BE EXPECTED TO BE HEARD AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. 
          I'LL NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL OR PRESIDENT ACCOUNTANT FOR EXCEPT FOR COUNCILMAN BRADY, UNFORTUNATELY, HE WAS CALLED OUT AND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO JOIN US THIS EVENING, OR AT LEAST WE DON'T ANTICIPATE HIM BEING ABLE TO JOIN US LATER. 
          UM, AND AS ALWAYS, WE BEGIN OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 
          SO IF YOU'RE WILLING AND ABLE, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN US. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TWO REPUBLIC FOR WE JUST HANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN THIS WITH LIBERTY. 
          AND AND SINCE COUNCILMAN BRADY ON THE PRINTED AGENDA WAS GOING TO BE APPOINTING A NEW DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEMBER, HE'S NOT ABLE TO JOIN US. 
          SO WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT THIS EVENING. 
          WE'LL MAKE SURE AND TAKE CARE OF THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND SO THE FIRST ITEM 
          [5. CONSENT AGENDA]
WILL BE ON OUR AGENDA NOW IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          CONSENT AGENDA WILL CONSIST OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, MINUTES FROM THE MEETING OF MAY 5TH, 2026. 
          ALSO INCLUDES THE CORRECTING AGENDA ITEM, REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, TWO SIX DASH 1 1 3 DESIGN BUILD WILLS PARK FIELD, ARTIFICIAL TURF CONVERSION AND CONSENT. 
          AGENDA ITEM, FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT REPORT FOR THE MONTH ENDING MARCH 31ST, 2026. 
          IS THERE ANYONE ON COUNCIL THAT WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE ANYTHING FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE, MS. OR HUSKY, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? NO, SIR, WE DO NOT. 
          HOWEVER, IF ANYONE WANTS TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, NOW'S YOUR CHANCE. 
          SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD. 
          WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNSEL? MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA BY COUNCILMAN HIVES, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN REEVES IN DISCUSSION. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE VOTE. 
          YES, IT DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY. 
          SO NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO 
          [A. Announcement of Public Hearing Procedures]
THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF TONIGHT'S MEETING. 
          AND IF YOU WOULD, MS. SWIN, COULD YOU PLEASE MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCEDURES? AN INDIVIDUAL REQUESTING TO PERIOD ON A MATTER RELATED TO THE PURPOSE OF THE HEARING MUST BE RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR BEFORE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          UPON RISING TO SPEAK, THE SPEAKER MUST IDENTIFY HIMSELF OR HERSELF AND FURNISH A HOME OR BUSINESS ADDRESS. 
          BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH ANY COMMENTS OR REMARKS, THE COUNCIL WILL ALLOW PROPONENTS A TOTAL OF 10 MINUTES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF AN APPLICATION. 
          OPPONENTS WILL BE ALLOWED 10 MINUTES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. 
          COMMENTS ARE ACCEPTED FIRST FROM THE APPLICANT, FOLLOWED BY PERSON SPEAKING IN FAVOR. 
          AND THEN FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION UPON CONCLUSION OF ANY OPPOSING COMMENTS OR PRESENTATIONS, THE MAYOR WILL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO OFFER REBUTTAL IF ANY TIME IS REMAINING IN THE ORIGINALLY ALLOT AS 10 MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. 
          MR. WOODMAN, I BELIEVE YOU 
          [B. V-26-05 DeBacco/12385 Charlotte Drive
Consideration of a variance request to allow a fence in a landscape strip along Charlotte Drive. A variance is requested to Unified Development Code (UDC) Subsection 2.3.6(B) to eliminate the 5’ setback of a fence from a landscape strip and to allow the fence on the front property line. The property is located at 12385 Charlotte Drive and is legally described as being located in Land Lot 1205, 2nd District, 2nd Section, Fulton County, Georgia.]
HAVE THIS ITEM. 
          THIS WILL BE V DASH TWO SIX DASH OH FIVE TOBACCO 1 2 3 8 5 CHARLOTTE DRIVE. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          COUNSEL. 
          THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ITEM BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS A REQUEST FOR VARIANCE TO ALLOW A FOUR FOOT TALL FOUR RAIL HORSE FENCE WITHIN THE 10 FOOT 
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LANDSCAPE STRIP ALONG CHARLOTTE DRIVE. 
          THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE SUBSECTION 2.3 0.6 B TO ALLOW THEM TO REMAIN ALONG THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE ON CHARLOTTE DRIVE. 
          AND I DO HAVE THE LOCATION MAP HERE. 
          THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HERE LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF CHARLOTTE DRIVE AND PRUITT DRIVE. 
          IT IS 1 2 3 8 5 CHARLOTTE DRIVE. 
          THIS PROPERTY IS JUST UNDER ONE ACRE. 
          THIS IS THE PROPERTY HERE. 
          UH, THE PROPERTY IS OWNED R 15 AND IT WAS RECENTLY REDEVELOPED WITH A TWO STORY 5,000 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME. 
          YOU SEE THE HOME HERE. 
          UM, THIS IS THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE ALONG CHARLOTTE. 
          THIS IS PRUITT DRIVE ON THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, THE REASON THAT THE APPLICANT, UH, WELL BEFORE I GO INTO THAT, UM, LET ME DISCUSS THE, UH, THE CITY'S CODE REQUIREMENT. 
          UM, THE CITY'S LANDED DEVELOPMENT INSPECTOR. 
          AS THE APPLICANT WAS REDEVELOPING THE PROPERTY, UH, I DID IDENTIFIED THE CODE VIOLATION TO THE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, REGARDING PLACING FENCE ON THE PROPERTY LINE. 
          THAT UDC SUBSECTION THAT I REFERENCED, 2.3 0.6 B, THAT IS THE FENCE AND WALL CODE REQUIREMENTS. 
          IT SAYS THAT FENCES ARE TO BE PLACED FIVE FEET BEHIND THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE STRIP AND THERE IS A 10 FOOT LANDSCAPE STRIP THAT IS REQUIRED ALONG CHARLOTTE DRIVE. 
          SO THE FENCE, THIS RED LINE REPRESENTS THE PROPERTY LINE ON THIS PROPERTY THAT IS THE CURRENT LOCATION OF THE FENCE. 
          THE CODE WOULD REQUIRE THAT THAT FENCE TO BE SET BACK 10 FEET BEHIND THE LANDSCAPE STREET STRIP AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET BEHIND THAT. 
          THE APPLICANT IS ASKING TO ALLOW THE FENCE TO REMAIN ON THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE WITH A ZERO FOOT SETBACK. 
          THE REASONS FOR THAT IS WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS HOME, THERE WERE, UM, STORM WATER REQUIREMENTS ON THIS PROPERTY, WHICH RESULTED IN AN INFILTRATION SYSTEM IN THE FRONT YARD OF THE PROPERTY. 
          THERE ARE ALSO DRAINS THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE LANDSCAPE STRIP THAT WAS PLANTED BEHIND THE FENCE. 
          UH, SO IF THE FENCE WERE TO BE MOVED BACK, IT WOULD BE BASICALLY LOCATED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YARD OR RIGHT UP AGAINST THE FRONT FACADE OF THE HOME, AND IT JUST WOULD LOOK UNUSUAL. 
          SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE APPLICANT'S UH, REQUEST. 
          UM, WITH THIS REQUEST, BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE THE FENCE, UM, AND THERE IS, THIS IS AT AN INTERSECTION. 
          WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT SIGHT LINES. 
          SO WE DID GO BA OUT TO THE SITE AND WE DID MEASURE SITE DISTANCE MEASURING 18 FEET BACK FROM THE EDGE OF CHARLOTTE DRIVE AND THEN SNAPPING A PICTURE AT THREE AND A HALF FEET, UH, ABOVE, UH, THE FINISHED GRADE OF PRUITT DRIVE. 
          AND THE PICTURE THAT YOU SEE IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND I'LL SHOW YOU HERE, WILL SHOW YOU THAT THERE ARE NO OBSTRUCTIONS WITHIN THAT, THOSE SIGHT LINES. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE HERE. 
          SO THIS PICTURE WAS SNAPPED 18 FEET BACK FROM THE EDGE OF CHARLOTTE DRIVE INTO PRUITT DRIVE. 
          THE LOCATION OF THAT 18 FEET WAS APPROXIMATELY AT THE SAME LOCATION AS THE STOP SIGN ON PRUITT DRIVE. 
          AND AS YOU CAN SEE LOOKING SOUTH THERE, THE, THE FENCE IS LOCATED IN THIS LOCATION HERE AND IT DOES NOT OBSTRUCT, UH, SITE SIGHT LINES. 
          JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE OUT AT THE LOCATION TODAY. 
          SO THIS IS THE FENCE, UH, THAT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED ALONG THE APPLICANT'S, UH, FRONT PROPERTY LINE ON CHARLOTTE DRIVE. 
          THE LANDSCAPE THAT REQUIRED TREES AND SHRUBS ARE PLANTED DIRECTLY BEHIND THE FENCE. 
          AND THEN THIS IS THE FENCE HERE WITH THE LANDSCAPE STRIP MATERIAL BEHIND IT. 
          AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE DRAINS ASSOCIATED WITH THE, UH, INFILTRATION SYSTEM IN THE FRONT YARD, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          AND THEN THIS IS THE PLAN. 
          THOSE ARE THE TWO DRAINS LOCATED HERE THAT FEED INTO THIS SYSTEM IN THE FRONT YARD. 
          WE REVIEWED THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTS. 
          WE BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICATION OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD CREATE AN UNNECESSARY HARDSHIP FOR THE APPLICANT AND THAT THE PROPERTY HAS PECULIAR CONDITIONS DUE TO THE PRESENCE OF THE UNDERGROUND INFILTRATION SYSTEM. 
          AS I MENTIONED, IT WOULD REQUIRE THAT, THAT THAT FENCE BE PUSHED BACK CLOSER TO THE HOME, UH, LEAVING IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FRONT YARD. 
          THE APPLICANT DID ALSO FIND EXAMPLES. 
          STAFF ALSO CONFIRMED THESE. 
          THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLES ALONG CHARLOTTE DRIVE, UM, SOME OTHER ROADS IN THE CITY TOO. 
          MAYFIELD ROAD. 
          THERE'S MANY EXAMPLES OF THE FOUR BOARD HORSE FENCE RIGHT AT THE PROPERTY LINE. 
          THIS IS ONE ON CHARLOTTE DRIVE. 
          THIS IS ANOTHER, 
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THIS IS ANOTHER LOCATION AGAIN ON CHARLOTTE DRIVE. 
          AND THEN I THINK I HAD A COUPLE EXAMPLES FROM MAYFIELD ROAD AS WELL. 
          AND AS I MENTIONED, WE DID GO OUT AND CHECK SITE DISTANCE AND IT DEFENSE IS NOT OBSTRUCTING SIGHTLINES. 
          THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION REPORT. 
          THEY DID, UH, INDICATE THAT THEY HAD RECEIVED A COMMENT, UM, FROM A NEIGHBOR THAT DEFENSE MAY BLOCK. 
          UM, JUST CONCERNED THAT THE FENCE MAY BLOCK VISIBILITY. 
          AND THERE WAS ALSO THAT SAME COMMENT ON THE, UH, CZIM COMMUNITY ZONING INFORMATION MEETING, UH, SIGN IN SHEET FROM APRIL 8TH. 
          AND WITH THAT REVIEW, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE APPLICANT'S, UH, VARIANCE REQUEST SUBJECT TO ONE CONDITION AS STATED IN THE, UH, STAFF REPORT IN YOUR PACKETS. 
          AND THAT CONDITION BASICALLY WOULD ALLOW FOR THE, THE OFFENSE TO REMAIN IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION WITH A ZERO FOOT SETBACK. 
          AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. 
          IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WOODMAN ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NO QUESTIONS COMING FORWARD, MUST HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB MR. WOODMAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL. 
          UM, MY FIRST TIME HERE, SO I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE. 
          , UM, APOLOGIZE, I HAVE SOME NERVES HITTING ME, BUT I WANTED TO SAY FIRST OF ALL, MY NAME'S STEVEN DEBA. 
          UM, BEEN IN THE ALPHARETTA MILTON AREA FOR 25 YEARS. 
          WE MOVED INTO UNINCORPORATED ALPHARETTA IN 20 OR 2000 BEFORE PART OF IT WAS TAKEN OVER BY MILTON. 
          WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING BACK TO ALPHA. 
          WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR 18 MONTHS AND, UM, I THINK WE'RE DOWN TO THE FINAL SHORT STROKES HERE. 
          BUT, UM, I THINK MICHAEL DID A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING KIND OF THE, THE VARIANCE REQUEST. 
          UM, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO WITH THE INFILTRATION SYSTEM, AND WHEN OUR LANDSCAPERS PUT IN THE FENCE FOR, FOR OUR DOGS, WE REALIZED, UH, THAT THE FENCE BEING ON THE PROPERTY LINE WAS IN VIOLATION OF THE CODE. 
          WE DID MOVE THE FENCE ON PRUITT DRIVE TO ADHERE TO THE CODE, BUT WE KIND OF HAVE A LANDMINE IN OUR FRONT YARD WITH THE INFILTRATION SYSTEM. 
          SO WE WANTED TO REQUEST A VARIANCE TO KEEP THE FENCE WHERE IT IS. 
          UM, AND, UH, SINCE MICHAEL DID SUCH A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING KIND OF THE VARIANCE IN THE SITUATION, UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO, UH, TO REQUEST YOUR CONSIDERATION TO, UH, TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE REQUEST. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? COUNCILWOMAN REEVES, WELCOME BACK TO ALPHARETTA. 
          OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          . 
          ANY QUESTIONS? CONGRATULATIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          MS. OR HUSKY. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR, WE DO NOT. 
          HOWEVER, THERE'S ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM. 
          NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO DO SO. 
          I DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. 
          SO I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. 
          NOW'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. 
          IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD. 
          MY NAME IS, UH, MICHAEL DEAN. 
          I LIVE AT 200, UH, PRUITT DRIVE, UH, FOR 30 YEARS. 
          UM, I'LL AGREE THAT THE, UH, UH, LINE OF SIGHT IS ADEQUATE NOW IF YOU PULL ALL THE WAY TO THE STOP SIGN, UH, I GUESS MY CONCERN IS ALL THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S THERE AS IT GROWS OUT OVER THE MONTHS, UH, IT'S GONNA TAKE THAT LINE OF SIGHT AND MAKE IT, UH, NON-EXISTENT. 
          PRETTY MUCH BEFORE THE HOUSE WAS DEVELOPED, THERE WAS A MAILBOX THERE AND EVERY TIME THE LADY WHO'S WHO HAD THE HOUSE PREVIOUSLY WOULD NOT TRIM IT. 
          YOU COULDN'T SEE A THING. 
          SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE A REPEAT OF THAT, PARTICULARLY AS FAST AS PEOPLE CAN COME DOWN CHARLOTTE, THEY SHOULD, AND IT'S 35 MILES AN HOUR, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE WITH TRAFFIC. 
          SO PARTICULARLY AS PEOPLE ARE NOW CUTTING THROUGH THERE A LOT TO GO, COME AND GO FROM CRAB APPLE CORNERS. 
          SO, UH, MY CONCERNS NOT SO MUCH TODAY. 
          I DON'T THINK THIS IS ENOUGH TO MAKE HIM MOVE THE FENCE, BUT I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD THAT IT'S A LINE OF SIGHT THAT JUST IS CLEAR. 
          IF YOU'RE IN A CAR IN MY WIFE'S CAR, WHICH IS LOWER, IT'S MUCH HARDER TO SEE. 
          IF I'M IN MY TRUCK, THE STUFF COULD GROW PRETTY GOOD. 
          BUT, UH, GUESS MY CONCERN, LIKE I SAID, FOR TOMORROW, NOT FOR TODAY. 
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SO THANK YOU. 
          THANKS SIR. 
          IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK TO THE OPPOSITION OF THIS ITEM? SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNSEL? YES, SIR. 
          HOLD ON. 
          , JUST IN THE NICK OF TIME, JUST IN THE NICK OF TIME, I'LL BE REAL BRIEF. 
          I, I LIVE ON PRO DRIVE 180 5 PRUITT DRIVE. 
          AND JUST TO ECHO WHAT MR. DEAN SAID, THE THE SIDELINE IS FINE NOW, BUT AS LONG AS THEY DON'T PLANT SOMETHING THERE THAT BLOCKS THE, THE LEFT TURN ESPECIALLY. 
          AND, UH, I HOPE Y'ALL WILL DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE SPEED ON CHARLOTTE DRIVE AT SOME POINT BECAUSE NO ONE GOES LESS THAN 40 TO 50 MILES AN HOUR DOWN IN CHARLOTTE. 
          SO, THANK YOU, SIR. 
          I'M SORRY, WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? JOHN BOGGS, 180 5 PRUITT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD? UH, MR. MAYOR, BEFORE YOU CLOSE THE BOOK HEARING, IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO OFFER REBUTTAL, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE HE WAS AWARE HE COULD COME DOWN AND OFFER REBUTTAL. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER. 
          WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO REBUT THAT YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THAT ITEM? SURE. 
          I PUT A SLIDE UP. 
          IS THERE ANY WAY TO PUT THIS? YOU MAY, YOU STILL HAVE SIX MINUTES AND 46 SECONDS. 
          SO, UM, THIS IS JUST A, A PICTURE OF THE FENCE AND THE PLANTING BEHIND THE FENCE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO AS I STATED, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS IN THE 18 MONTHS, WE'VE BEEN KIND OF RENOVATING THE LANDSCAPING. 
          WE'VE ADHERED TO ALL THE REQUIREMENTS BY, BY THE CITY. 
          AND EVEN WITH THE LANDSCAPE PLANNING, IT'S ALL BEHIND THE FENCE. 
          AND, UM, WE'LL MAKE SURE, AND WE ARE VERY PARTICULAR ABOUT MAINTAINING LANDSCAPING, SO I'LL MAKE SURE THAT NONE OF THIS LANDSCAPING THAT'S BEHIND THE FENCE WILL EVER GROW TO A POINT WHERE IT WILL OBSTRUCT, UM, THE VIEW FROM PRUITT DRIVE. 
          UM, I LOOKED AT SOME OTHER INTERSECTIONS ALONG, UM, CHARLOTTE DRIVE AND BEAR WITH ME FOR ONE SECOND. 
          SO MICHAEL DID, AS I SAID, A GREAT JOB AND HE SHOWED KIND OF THE INTERSECTION OF PRUITT AND CHARLOTTE. 
          THIS IS JUST ONE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, BEFORE YOU GET TO PRUITT DRIVE, IT'S ANOTHER INTERSECTION ON CHARLOTTE, AND THIS IS THE SIDE DRIVE LOOKING ONTO CHARLOTTE. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE OBSTRUCTION FROM AN INTERSECTION LIKE THIS VERSUS WHERE WE ARE, I MEAN, IT'S A MUCH WORSE SITUATION. 
          SO, LIKE I SAID, I'LL, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING WE DO WE'LL MAINTAIN THE LANDSCAPING TO, TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T OBSTRUCT ANY, UH, ANY VIEW ON CHARLOTTE DRIVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE'VE HEARD YET FROM COUNSEL SINCE WE'VE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT? I'LL CALL FOR A MOTION. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          OFFER A MOTION THIS EVENING TO APPROVE ITEM V DASH 26 DASH ZERO FIVE DEBA SLASH 1 2 3 85 CHARLOTTE DRIVE IS PRESENTED TO US THIS EVENING. 
          SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY MAYOR PRO TIM MERKEL AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DORITO. 
          ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE AS OUTLINED BY MAYOR PRO. 
          TIM, PLEASE VOTE YES AND IT DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY. 
          WELCOME BACK, ALPHARETTA, SIR. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          NEXT ITEM I HAVE UP ON 
          [C. PH-26-10 Portman Brookside Change of Condition/Brookside MP
Consideration of a public hearing request to change conditions of zoning related to the Portman Brookside mixed-use development located in Pod A of the Brookside Master Plan. Changes to conditions of zoning are requested to amend the site plan, to increase restaurant use from 32,000 SF to 40,000 SF, to modify roadway section plans, and to delete a condition related to access to the retail area. The property is located at 3625 & 3655 Brookside Parkway and is legally described as being located in Land Lots 2, 3, & 44, 1st District, 1st Section, Fulton County, Georgia.]
OUR AGENDA IS PH DASH TWO SIX DASH ONE ZERO PORTMAN BROOKSIDE CHANGE CONDITION BROOKSIDE MP MASTER PLAN. 
          MR. WOODMAN, ONCE AGAIN YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNSEL. 
          THE NEXT ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A REQUEST FROM PORTMAN HOLDINGS REQUESTING CHANGES TO CONDITION ZONING 
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RELATED TO THE PORTMAN BROOKSIDE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT LOCATED IN POD A OF THE BROOKSIDE MASTER PLAN. 
          CHANGES TO CONDITIONS ARE REQUESTED TO AMEND THE SITE PLAN, UH, SPECIFICALLY IN THE RETAIL AREA OF THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, INCREASE THE RESTAURANT USE FROM 32,000 SQUARE FEET TO 40,000 SQUARE FEET SO THEY'RE NOT INCREASING THE OVERALL COMMERCIAL ALLOWANCE, WHICH WAS NO MORE THAN 60,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          WE HAD A CONDITION THAT LIMITED THE RESTAURANT PORTION TO NO MORE THAN 32, UH, THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. 
          SO IT'S REALLY AN INCREASE OF 8,000 SQUARE FEET OF THE RETAIL RESTAURANT COMPONENT THAT CAN SPECIFICALLY BE RESTAURANT. 
          UM, THERE ARE ALSO, UH, CONDITIONS, UM, CHANGES TO MODIFY THE REFERENCED ROADWAY SECTION PLANS AND THE SITE PROGRAM AND AMENITY PLANS TO UP TO SHOW THE CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IN THE RETAIL AREA, AS WELL AS TO DELETE A CONDITION RELATED TO ACCESS TO THE RETAIL AREA. 
          AND SO I HAVE THE PROPERTY ON THE LOCATION MAP HERE. 
          THE PROPERTIES ARE LO OR PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 36 25 AND 36 55 BROOKSIDE PARKWAY. 
          AND THAT IS NEAR THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF OLD MELTON PARKWAY AND BROOKSIDE PARKWAY. 
          UH, THE PROPERTY TODAY, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE AERIAL, IS DEVELOPED WITH TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS JUST UNDER 300,000 SQUARE FEET AND THEN ABOUT 1100 SQUARE FOOT, UM, SORRY, 1100 SPACE, UH, SURFACE PARKING LOT. 
          THIS PROPERTY, UH, AS YOU MAY RECALL, WAS REZONED IN 2025 TO MU MIXED USE TO ALLOW FOR THE PORTMAN BROOKSIDE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. 
          THAT DEVELOPMENT SAVED ONE OF THE OFFICE BUILDINGS AND THEN PROPOSED TO ADD 60,000 SQUARE FOOT OF RETAIL RESTAURANT USES 75 FOR SALE TOWN HOMES AND 335 FOR RENT UNITS. 
          THE APPLICANT IS SPECIFICALLY ASKING FOR CHANGES TO CONDITIONS ONE FOUR E 7 10, 18 AND 19 TO REPLACE THE SITE PLAN DATE, UM, ON THE SITE PLAN PREPARED BY KIMLEY HORN TO REFLECT THE CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN. 
          AND I WILL SHOW YOU THOSE IN JUST A SECOND. 
          UH, CONDITION FOUR B WAS THE INCREASE TO THE RESTAURANT USE FROM 32 TO 40,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          CONDITION 11 REFERENCED THE ROADWAY SECTION PLANS CONDITION, UH, DELETING CONDITION 43, UH, WHICH NO LONGER APPLIED, UH, WITH THE CHANGE TO THE ACCESS TO THE RETAIL AREA FROM BROOKSIDE PARKWAY. 
          AND THEN CONDITION 25, UM, TO CHANGE THE REFERENCE DATE ON THE SITE PROGRAM AND AMENITIES EXHIBIT. 
          AND AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT WAS A DRI OR DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT. 
          AND SO THE NOTICE OF DECISION THAT IS ISSUED BY GRETA, UM, NEEDED TO BE REVISED TO REFLECT THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN AND THE APPLICANT DID DO THAT. 
          UM, AND THE NOTICE OF DECISION WAS REVISED WITH THE DATE OF MAY 4TH. 
          THAT WAS INCLUDED WITH YOUR PACKET. 
          AND THERE THOSE DRI, UH, RECOMMENDATION OR THE DRI CONDITIONS ARE ALSO CONDITIONS THAT ARE IN OUR ZONING CONDITIONS ON THE PROPERTY. 
          SO THOSE HAVE BEEN MODIFIED IN THE, UH, CONDITIONS AND I'LL POINT THOSE OUT. 
          SO AS IT RELATES TO THE SITE PLAN, THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED SITE, SITE PLAN. 
          UM, AND AS I MENTIONED, THE SITE PLAN CHANGES ARE PRIMARILY TO THIS RETAIL AREA HERE, AND I'LL SHOW YOU A COMPARISON OF THE WHAT'S APPROVED COMPARED TO, UM, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED TODAY AND THE REASONS. 
          SO THIS IS THE APPROVED PLAN. 
          THIS IS THE 2025 PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL. 
          THE RETAIL AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS SPECIFICALLY HERE. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE THIS RETAIL AREA HAD THE FOUR RETAIL BUILDINGS WITH PARKING KIND OF IN BETWEEN. 
          THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REVISE THE SITE PLAN AND RECONFIGURE THAT RETAIL AREA. 
          AS YOU SEE HERE, THE INTENT HERE WAS TO, UM, TIGHTEN UP THE BUILDINGS TO CREATE A MORE WALKABLE AREA AND PUT THE, PUT THE PARKING TO THE SIDES SO THAT YOU CAN WALK FREELY AROUND, UH, IN THIS REAL AREA. 
          UM, SO THAT'S THE MAIN REASONS, UH, FOR THE CHANGES. 
          UH, WITH THIS CHANGE YOU CAN SEE THAT THE POINT OF ACCESS. 
          SO THIS IS THE CURRENTLY APPROVED PLAN. 
          YOU SEE THE ACCESS OFF OF BROOKSIDE PARKWAY. 
          I'M SORRY, UH, YEAH, BROOKSIDE PARKWAY IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER OR CLOSER TO THE INTERSECTION AT OLD MILTON AND BROOKSIDE. 
          SO IN THE REVISED PLAN THAT HAS SHIFTED FURTHER SOUTH, 
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SO WE DID REVIEW THE, THE PROPOSED CHANGES. 
          WE AGREED WITH THE APPLICANT'S, UH, INTENT AND VISION HERE TO CREATE A MORE WALKABLE, UM, RETAIL ENVIRONMENT. 
          UM, AND WE DO BELIEVE THAT THAT PLAN DOES THE CHANGE. 
          DOES THAT, UM, IF APPROVED. 
          WE, UH, DO RECOMMEND THAT THE CONDITIONS OF ZONING BE UPDATED TO REFLECT GRETA'S UH, REVISED, UH, NOTICE OF DECISION DATED MAY 4TH, 2026. 
          UH, THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN INDICATING THEY RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          SAME ON THE MAY 13TH, UH, COMMUNITY ZONING INFORMATION MEETING AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND THE STAFF REPORT IN YOUR PACKETS. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT THE CONDITIONS WERE SHOWN SPECIFICALLY THE CHANGES TO CONDITIONS WERE SHOWN IN RED. 
          ANYTHING THAT WAS IN BLACK INK, UM, WAS NOT, UH, CHANGED. 
          AND SO THESE ARE ALL THE CONDITIONS OF ZONING THAT WERE APPROVED WITH THE INITIAL DEVELOPMENT IN 2025. 
          ONLY THE CHANGES, THE CONDITIONS IN RED HAVE BEEN CHANGED. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, CONDITION ONE, THE SITE PLAN DATE REVISED TO 4 16 26. 
          THAT IS ALL THAT'S CHANGED, UH, IN THAT PARTICULAR CONDITION. 
          YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE, UM, TOWARDS THE END OF THE CONDITIONS, CONDITIONS, UH, STARTING WITH CONDITION NUMBER 36. 
          SO YOU SEE SOME NEW CONDITIONS AND THEN THREE DELETED CONDITIONS. 
          THOSE ARE AS A RESULT OF THE DRI BEING REVISED. 
          AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. 
          IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. 
          COUNCILMAN, HES MR. WOOD, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW WITH THE NEW CURB CUT ON, ON THE NEWER, UH, PLAN THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, HOW THAT LINES UP WITH ANY CURB CUTS THAT MAY BE IN, UH, BROOKSIDE WEST, IF ANY? SO THE, THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS APPROVED ACROSS THE STREET REMOVED THE EXISTING CURB CUT ALONG BROOKSIDE PARKWAY, SO THERE WON'T BE ANY COMPUTING CURB CUT. 
          SO THERE'S NO CURB CUT. 
          THAT IS, THAT WILL ALIGN WITH THIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN REEVES. 
          I WAS WONDERING, IT SAYS, UM, SIX STORIES IN RED FOR THE PARKING DECK. 
          IS THAT WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED? UM, SO THAT THE MAX SIX STORIES IS WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IN 2025. 
          THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGED IN CONDITION FOUR E IS THE, THE DATE OF THE SITE PLAN. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YES, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN RITA. 
          MAYOR, I WAS GONNA ASK THAT QUESTION. 
          SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. WOODMAN? THANK YOU MR. WOODMAN. 
          WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME? AND JUST A REMINDER TO PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. 
          TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PLUG. 
          OH, IT'S THIS, OH, THERE STATIC. 
          UH, PERFECT. 
          ALRIGHT, WONDERFUL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          TECHNOLOGY CHALLENGED. 
          UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR GILBERT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. 
          MY NAME IS JESSICA HILL. 
          MY BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 600 PEACHTREE STREET, UH, AND I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT, PORTMAN HOLDINGS. 
          I'M JOINED BY CLAYTON CHEEK, WHO IS A SENIOR DEVELOPMENT MANAGER WITH PORT PORTMAN HOLDINGS. 
          UH, AND WE'RE GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH A FEW THINGS ABOUT THIS APPLICATION, IF YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, WHEN PORTMAN CAME TO ME, THEY TOLD ME THE ONLY THING THEY WERE CHANGING WAS THE SITE PLAN AND THE AMOUNT OF RESTAURANT USE. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT THEY'RE CHANGING. 
          BUT UNFORTUNATELY, IT IMPACTS 12 CONDITIONS, UM, WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE THE AMOUNT OF RED THAT YOU HAVE IN THE STAFF REPORT. 
          UM, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE PLAN, UM, THE SCREEN HERE IS THE AMENDED PLAN. 
          IT'S A COLORED RENDERED VERSION OF IT. 
          UM, AS MR. WOODMAN INDICATED, THE ONLY CHANGES THAT ARE BEING MADE TO THIS SECTION ARE TO THE RETAIL PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, THEY HAVE GROUPED THE RETAIL BUILDINGS TOGETHER TO PROVIDE A GREATER OUTDOOR OPPORTUNITY BETWEEN THE RETAIL BUILDINGS TO PROVIDE A SENSE OF GATHERING IN PLACE. 
          I WANNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, HERE'S A COMPARISON. 
          AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE TWO PLANS SIDE BY SIDE. 
          THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS THE PROPOSED PLAN, THE ONE ON 
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THE RIGHT IS THE APPROVED PLAN. 
          UM, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          UH, HERE'S A CLOSEUP VIEW. 
          UH, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE RETAIL AREA THAT YOU ARE SEEING. 
          THIS IS, UM, THE AMENITY PLAN THAT SHOWS WHERE DIFFERENT AMENITIES WILL BE, INCLUDING DINING, OUTDOOR DINING. 
          UM, PUBLIC ART WILL BE INCORPORATED IN THIS AREA AS WELL. 
          UM, AND BY GATHERING THE PARKING TO THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE BANK, AGAIN, IT GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BETTER PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY, UH, THROUGHOUT THE RETAIL AREA. 
          NEXT, UH, HERE'S SOME OVERHEAD RENDERING. 
          SO LOOKING AT THIS RENDERING, UH, BROOKSIDE PARKWAY WOULD BE ON YOUR RIGHT. 
          UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THE, THE PROPOSED, UH, UH, RETAIL BUILDINGS. 
          NEXT SLIDE, ANOTHER OVERHEAD VIEW. 
          AGAIN, THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE IN PERMITTING ARE IN THE UPPER LEFT CORNER, BROOKSIDE PARKWAY, AGAIN ON THE RIGHT. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE PLAN LEFT THE CENTRALIZED GREEN THAT'S PROPOSED. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          UH, HERE'S A RENDERING OF THE KIND OF TYPE OF ARCHITECTURE THAT YOU MIGHT EXPECT TO SEE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          UH, AND HERE'S A RENDERING OF THAT CENTRAL GREEN AREA THAT I MENTIONED THAT THE COMMERCIAL USES WILL OPEN OUT ONTO. 
          UM, SOME OF THE INTERESTS THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED HAS BEEN FROM LOCAL CHEF DRIVEN TYPE RESTAURANTS, DIFFERENT OUTPOSTS OF THOSE RESTAURANTS. 
          UM, AND SO THE HOPE IS TO HAVE A REALLY ACTIVATED, UH, CENTRAL SPACE. 
          UM, AND THEN HERE, JUST ANOTHER VIEW SHOWING, UH, THE PROPOSED RETAIL AREA. 
          RIGHT. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          I THINK WE'RE DONE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          YOU WANNA, AND CLAYTON'S GONNA TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY WE'RE MAKING THIS CHANGE, UM, AND HOW WE GOT TO THIS DECISION? SURE. 
          WE, WE REALLY JUST KIND OF WANTED TO SIMPLIFY KIND OF THE RETAIL AND MAKE IT, LIKE JESSICA SAID, GIVE IT A BETTER SENSE OF PLACE, IMPROVE, IMPROVE THE PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION BACK HERE. 
          SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT ALL OF THE PARKING IS KIND OF AGGREGATED TO ONE AREA NOW, RATHER THAN SPLIT BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS, WHICH, WHICH HELPS ISOLATE IT AND GIVE IT BETTER PEDESTRIAN FEEL WHEN YOU'RE BETWEEN THOSE RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL SPACES. 
          THAT'S KIND OF WHAT DROVE DROVE THIS DECISION. 
          I THINK THAT COMPLETES OUR PRESENTATION. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS COME FROM, UM, ON THE NEW SITE VAN? UM, THE ROAD THAT'S BETWEEN R SEVEN AND R FIVE AND R SIX, IS THAT A REGULAR PRIVATE ROAD? IT LOOKED LIKE ON ONE OF THE RENDERINGS, IT HAD DIAGONAL PARKING ON IT. 
          THE, THE DIAGONAL PARKING IS ONLY BELOW, UM, R SEVEN, KIND OF BETWEEN THE TOWN HOMES AND R SEVEN. 
          THERE IS SOME, UM, WELL TRACE THAT. 
          YEAH, THERE YOU GO. 
          YEAH, KIND OF LOOKS LIKE DIAGONAL, LOOKS A LITTLE BIT LIKE DIAGONAL PARKING THERE UNDER THE NUMBER THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S A, STARTING FROM THE PLAN BOTTOM THERE IS ADJACENT TO THE TOWN HOMES. 
          THERE'S PARALLEL PARKING, AND THEN THERE IS DIAGONAL PARKING THAT IS BETWEEN R SEVEN AND THE TOWN HOMES. 
          AND THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE PREVIOUS PLAN SHOWED. 
          SO IN FRONT OF, UM, IN THAT RIGHT HERE, THIS IS ALL A PASS THROUGH, UM, PROPOSED TO BE PAPERS. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU. 
          GREAT, THANK YOU. 
          MS. OR HUSKY, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM? WE DO NOT. 
          HOWEVER, ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM. 
          NOW'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. 
          I DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS IN OPPOSITION? NO, SIR. 
          WE DO NOT. 
          HOWEVER, ONCE AGAIN, YOU DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION IF YOU'D LIKE. 
          I DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD. 
          SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNSEL ON THIS ITEM? YES, SIR. 
          MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU. 
          I'D LIKE TO MAKE PRESENT A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM PAGE DASH 26 DASH ONE ZERO PORTMAN BROOKSIDE, CHANGE OF CONDITION SLASH BROOKSIDE MP AS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL THIS EVENING. 
          SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TIMM MERKEL, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DORITO. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN REEVES? UM, SINCE THIS IS ONLY, ITS TRADING OUT OF RETAIL, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A SMALL CHANGE, BUT I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND THE EFFORT THAT WENT INTO THINKING ABOUT CREATING AN EATING SPACE IN SOMEPLACE THAT WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO GO. 
          HOPEFULLY WE'LL 
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ALL LIKE TO GO. 
          SO I, I APPRECIATE THE WORK AND THE THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO THAT. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE AS OUTLINE BY MAYOR PROTI, PLEASE VOTE YES AND IT DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          SO, NEXT ITEM UPON OUR PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA IS THE PH DASH 26 DASH ZERO NINE 2045 ALPHARETTA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TRANSMITTAL HEARING. 
          MR. WOODMAN, YOU'RE A BUSY MAN THIS EVENING. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          COUNSEL, THIS WILL BE JUST A QUICK INTRODUCTION. 
          THE PRESENTATION THIS EVENING WILL BE FROM BEN KERN WITH MKSK. 
          MKSK IS THE CONSULTANT THAT WAS SELECTED TO UPDATE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          OF COURSE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE'RE UPDATING EVERY FIVE YEARS. 
          WE DID A MAJOR UPDATE, UH, BACK IN 20 20, 20 21. 
          SO THIS IS BUILDING UPON THAT PLAN. 
          I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH AWAY FROM BEN, BUT BEN IS A FORMER EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY, WORKED FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR SEVEN YEARS, AND WAS INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN UPDATING THE LAST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE 2040 PLAN. 
          SO WITH THAT, I WILL, UH, TURN IT OVER TO BEN. 
          UM, WE ARE LOOKING FOR YOUR AUTHORIZATION TO TRANSMIT THE DRAFT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO THE STATE AND REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW. 
          UM, AND THEN WE WOULD BRING THE PLAN BACK TO YOU FOR ADOPTION, HOPEFULLY BEFORE JUNE 30TH. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S OUR DEADLINE WITH THE STATE TO HAVE THAT DONE. 
          SO WE GOTTA HAVE THAT SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 22ND CITY COUNCIL. 
          THANK YOU, MICHAEL. 
          UM, THANK YOU, UH, MAYOR COUNCIL, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE BEFORE YOU. 
          UH, YEAH. 
          BEN KERN, ASSOCIATE PLANNER WITH MKSK. 
          WE HAVE A BUSINESS ADDRESS OF, UH, 9 9 9 PEACHTREE STREET IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA. 
          UM, AND, UH, YEAH, I, I'M HONORED TO BE HERE WITH YOU GUYS TODAY. 
          I, I THINK I, AS, AS MICHAEL MENTIONED, UH, DOING THIS PLAN WAS, UM, A JOY, UH, FOR ME KNOWING THAT, UM, ALPHARETTA IS, IS A PLACE I SPENT TIME AND THE HAS TAUGHT A LOT, UM, TO, TO ME, ABOUT THE VALUE AND IMPORTANCE OF PLANNING. 
          AND NOT ONLY, UM, PLANNING WITH THE CITY DOES A LOT OF, BUT IMPLEMENTING, UM, THE PLAN AND DOING THE HARD WORK, UM, AFTER THE COMMUNITY ARTICULATES A VISION. 
          AND, UM, YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, HONORED TO BE A PART OF, UH, CONTINUING THAT LEGACY AS WE THINK ABOUT THE NEXT COUPLE GENERATIONS FOR THE CITY. 
          SO IN, IN SHORT, UH, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS MULTIPLE OBJECTIVES, UM, GUIDING GROWTH, UH, INCORPORATING RECENT PLANNING INITIATIVES, MEETING STATE REQUIREMENTS FOR FUNDING. 
          UM, AND THIS IS AN UPDATE. 
          UH, AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN UPDATE AND A REWRITE IS WE'RE BUILDING ON THE EXISTING PLAN. 
          WE'RE BUILDING, BUILDING ON A LOT OF THE STRUCTURE THAT'S ALREADY THERE, UM, AND REFRESHING IT BASED ON, ON FEEDBACK AND, AND NEW RESEARCH. 
          SO WE HAVE BEEN MOVING QUICKLY, AS MICHAEL MENTIONED. 
          UM, WE ARE NOW IN BETWEEN THE, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PLAN ADOPTION PHASE. 
          AND I'VE BEEN GOING, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY HARD ON THIS SINCE, UH, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF LAST FALL. 
          SO IN TERMS OF ENGAGEMENT, OBVIOUSLY ENGAGEMENT IS A HUGE PART OF, OF ANY SUCCESSFUL PLANNING EFFORT. 
          UH, COLLECTING FEEDBACK FROM MULTIPLE AVENUES IS ALWAYS A BEST PRACTICE THAT WE, UH, TRY TO ADHERE TO. 
          UM, AND THIS INCLUDES A MIXTURE OF VARIOUS METHODS OF COLLECTING INFORMATION AND ENGAGING THE PUBLIC AND, AND STAKEHOLDERS WHO, WHO WEIGH IN WITH THEIR EXPERTISE. 
          UH, IN RESPECT TO IN-PERSON FEEDBACK, UH, NOTHING REPLACES IN-PERSON FEEDBACK WHERE WE CAN LOOK THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN THE EYE, THOSE THAT COME OUT, HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT COMPLEX ISSUES, UM, AND JUST, JUST HEAR, JUST BE THE EARS, UH, THAT ARE HEARING WHAT THE PUBLIC FEELS. 
          UM, SO WE HAD, UH, MULTIPLE MEETINGS IN DIFFERENT SESSIONS, UM, DIFFERENT TIMES OF DAY TO GATHER, UM, UH, INPUT IN PERSON. 
          UM, IN TODAY'S DAY AND AGE, UH, IT'S, IT'S QUITE OBVIOUS THAT, THAT ONLINE ENGAGEMENT, ONLINE ANYTHING, UM, THAT'S HOW INFORMATION, UH, MOVES AND GETS OUT. 
          SO THE, THE PROJECT WEBSITE REALLY BECAME A HUB FOR GETTING INFORMATION OUT FOR RECAPPING, UM, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'D HEARD. 
          UM, ONLINE SURVEY, IDEA FORUM, INTERACTIVE MAP. 
          UM, 
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THEY ALL GOT A, A GOOD AMOUNT OF, UM, OF FEEDBACK THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. 
          NOW, A BIG PART OF THIS IS, UH, IN LIGHT OF THE CERTAIN COMMUNITY ISSUES THAT WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT. 
          UH, THERE'S AN ELEMENT OF EDUCATION, UH, THAT GOES INTO, UH, WHAT A COMP PLAN DOES, WHAT IT DOESN'T DO, UM, WHAT IT, WHAT IT CAN CONTROL OR INFLUENCE THE THINGS THAT ARE, UM, OUTSIDE OF ITS PURVIEW AND JUST DELINEATING WHERE THAT FALLS AND, AND, AND WHERE THIS PROCESS IS AS A HIGH LEVEL GUIDING, UH, POLICY DOCUMENT. 
          NOW, OUR APPROACH, UM, AS WE MOVE INTO, UH, SOME OF THE THEMES AND TAKEAWAYS WAS, WAS TAKING WHAT WE HEARD, UM, THROUGH ENGAGEMENT, THROUGH DISCUSSIONS, UH, WITH STAKEHOLDERS, WITH ELECTED LEADERS LIKE YOURSELF, UM, WHAT THE PUBLIC WAS SAYING. 
          AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE FINDING AND WHERE ARE THE OTHER POINTS OF OVERLAP? AND, AND FROM THAT PLACE, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE REALLY FOUR MAJOR THEMES, UH, THAT EMERGED OUT OF THIS WORK WHERE WE SAW SIGNIFICANT POINTS OF OVERLAP IN BOTH. 
          UM, NOW STARTING WITH THE, THE IDEA AROUND GROWTH MANAGEMENT, WHICH WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE FIRST ONES AND, AND A, A PRIMARY THEME. 
          UM, I THINK AS, AS YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE STATS HERE, WE WON'T GO ALL OVER. 
          ALL OF THEM. 
          UH, JUST RECOGNIZING THAT ALPHARETTA HAS GROWN, UM, GROWTH HAS HAPPENED. 
          UH, SOME OF THESE METRICS WHEN YOU LOOK AT 25 YEARS AGO TO TODAY, THERE'S, THERE'S A DOUBLING OF POPULATION OF JOBS, UH, OF, OF HOME VALUES. 
          SO, UH, JUST A, A BIG RECOGNITION THAT GROWTH HAS HAPPENED. 
          BUT THEN ALPHARETTA DOES NOT EXIST IN A VACUUM. 
          UH, THERE'S A, A REGIONAL NATURE TO THE GROWTH THAT'S GOING ON, UM, AND THAT'S SEEN HERE IN, IN, IN HOME PRICES, HOME VALUES, AND ALSO POPULATION GROWTH. 
          UM, SO ALPHARETTA SITS RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF A HIGH GROWTH REGION, UM, AND IS, UH, YOU KNOW, A PART OF A BIGGER PICTURE, UH, THAT'S INFLUENCING A LOT OF WHAT'S PEL IN THE CITY. 
          UM, YEAH, ONE OF THE NEXT, UH, TOPICS HIGHLIGHTED, UH, THE OFFICE, UM, IN ALPHARETTA AND THINKING ABOUT ECONOMIC RESILIENCE AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, NOW AS ALL OF YOU KNOW, OFFICE IS A HUGE, UM, ANCHOR FOR THE, THE CITY IT HAS BEEN FOR MANY YEARS. 
          UM, AND IT, IT EVEN INFLUENCES SOME OF THE GROWTH, UH, THAT WE SEE ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          THE SHRINK SWELL OF THE, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO, UM, RESIDE HERE AT NIGHT. 
          AND THAT GROWS SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, WITH THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO SPEND TIME HERE DURING THE DAY BECAUSE OF, UH, UM, A LOT OF THE JOBS AND, UH, THE THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, UH, EMPLOYMENT ANCHOR THAT ALPHA IS. 
          UM, YEAH, SO THAT WAS WHAT WE FOUND A LOT OF WHAT WE HEARD. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, OFFICE IS A, IS A DISTINGUISHING STRENGTH, UH, THAT ALFREDA HAS OVER, OVER MANY IN THE REGION, UM, OVER MANY OF ITS NEIGHBORS. 
          AND SO WE HEARD, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF OF OFFICE SPACE HERE, AND, UH, WE SHOULD BE VERY SELECTIVE WITH HOW WE PRUNE IT. 
          UM, THERE'S, THERE'S TIMES WHEN IT MAKES SENSE TO BE SOMETHING ELSE, AND THERE'S TIMES WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINING THIS, THIS STRENGTH AND THIS, UM, VOLUME OF STOCK IS, IS POSSIBLY IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ALPHA AND CAN ALWAYS BE CHANGED INTO SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO THAT WAS ONE, ONE THING WE HEARD. 
          UM, ANOTHER THING WORTH NOTING, UM, WON'T GO INTO A TON OF DETAIL HERE, BUT ESSENTIALLY SHOWING AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE THERE ARE GREATER EMPLOYEES PHYSICALLY PRESENT, UM, TODAY COMPARED TO 2019, A PRE COVID NUMBER. 
          AND, UM, ONE THING WE HEARD IS SMALL AREA PLANNING REALLY WORKS. 
          IT'S WORKED IN THE PAST FOR THIS COMMUNITY, AND, UM, IT'S DONE A TON TO, UH, UM, CREATE, UM, AN ECONOMIC RESILIENCE. 
          THE PLACES WHERE THERE'S BEEN A CONCERTED ATTENTION GIVEN TO THAT ARE PLACES WHERE, UH, YOU SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE TODAY, UM, SPENDING MONEY AND MAKING INVESTMENTS AND, AND CONTRIBUTING TO THE COMMUNITY LIFE. 
          UH, AS WE MOVE INTO NORTH POINT, UH, WE HEARD THIS WAS A, A BROAD CONSENSUS THAT NORTH POINT IS THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          IT IS THE NEED FOR GROWTH. 
          IT IS GONNA BE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THE CITY OVER THE NEXT DECADE. 
          AND, UM, MANY RESPONDENTS SAID THAT'S THE AREA WHERE, WHERE FUTURE GROWTH AND REDEVELOPMENT EFFORTS SHOULD BE FOCUSED. 
          UM, WE FOUND THAT, YOU KNOW, NORTH POINT IS STILL, UM, YOU KNOW, STILL A REGIONAL SHOPPING DESTINATION, AND IT'S STILL FREQUENTLY USED. 
          IT'S JUST NOT WHAT IT ONCE WAS. 
          THEY'RE COMPETING CENTERS AROUND IT. 
          UM, THERE'S THE RISE OF E-COMMERCE AND, AND THOSE THINGS HAVE INFLUENCED, UM, SOME OF ITS, UH, ITS USAGE. 
          YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, KIND OF NERDY STUFF ON THIS, UM, UH, SLIDE HERE. 
          BUT IN SHORT, THE, THE COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE BUILDING LIFECYCLE, A LOT OF THE, UM, UH, THE BUILDINGS IN NORTH POINT ARE, ARE REACHING, YOU KNOW, 30 PLUS YEARS OF AGE. 
          SO THERE'S REINVESTMENT NEEDED TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, HVAC SYSTEMS, OTHER, OTHER FUNCTIONS OF A, UM, A VIABLE AND COMPETITIVE OFFICE OR COMMERCIAL, UM, UH, BUILDING OR, OR PROPERTY, UM, YEAH, COMPETITIVE FOR THE FUTURE. 
          SO NORTH POINT IS RIPE AND, UM, IT IS, UH, YES, RIPE FOR CHANGE AND FOR IT TO REMAIN VIABLE AND COMPETITIVE. 
          UH, CHANGE, UH, SEEMS TO BE, UM, YEAH, A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR IT. 
          NOW THE LAST THING HERE IS, IS GREEN REALLY MATTERS TO THE CITY PARKS TRAILS. 
          THEY'RE FREQUENTLY USED. 
          UM, 
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YEAH, PEOPLE REALLY PUT A, A HIGH EMPHASIS ON HOW MUCH IT IMPACTS THE QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          IT'S A DIFFERENTIATOR. 
          UM, WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT TREES, TREE CANOPY, UM, PROTECTING IT. 
          UH, WHAT WE FOUND IS, IS ACTUALLY THE ALPHARETTA IS, IS, UH, CLOSE TO 50% COVERED BY TREE CANOPY, WHICH IS 15 TO 20% HIGHER THAN, UH, THE AVERAGE OF OTHER COMMUNITIES OF ITS SIZE, UM, IN THE, IN THE COUNTRY. 
          SO, UH, THIS WAS A NATIONAL STUDY. 
          UM, SO IT IS A, IT IS A BOON AND IT IS A STRENGTH THAT, THAT PEOPLE NOTICE AND THEY APPRECIATE, UM, AND THEY SPOKE, UH, IN FAVOR OF. 
          NOW AS WE MOVE INTO THE, THE, UH, COMMUNITY VISION FRAMEWORK, THIS IS, UH, LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL, UM, COMMON COMP PLAN CATEGORIES. 
          THIS IS HOW OUR CURRENT COMP PLAN IS SET UP, UM, AND CATEGORIES FOR, UH, UM, LAYING OUT THE, THE VIN STATEMENT. 
          SO WHAT IS BEING SHOWN NEXT ARE WHAT ARE BEING ADDED TO THE EXISTING FRAMEWORK, UM, KNOWING THAT THERE'S, UH, A LOT THAT'S ALREADY IN THERE. 
          SO AS WE GO THROUGH THESE, I'LL JUST MAKE QUICK NOTES. 
          I THINK, UM, WITH, WITH HOUSING, UH, THIS POLICY AND THESE STRATEGIES, THEY RECOGNIZE THAT NORTH POINT IS THE AREA WHERE, WHERE GROWTH AND FUTURE HOUSING, UM, HAS BEEN, UH, BEEN HIGHLIGHTED AS MOST LIKELY TO TO OCCUR IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND SO IT CAN BE A PLACE TO SHOWCASE IN INNOVATIVE, UM, APPROACHES TO THAT. 
          UM, AND, UH, YEAH, WHEN WE THINK TRANSPORTATION AND WE THINK OF, UH, MOBILITY IN THE CITY, UM, THERE'S, UH, YEAH, THERE, THERE'S TALK ABOUT HOW, UH, PLACES, PARTICULARLY WINDWARD PARKWAY AND WINDWARD WERE, WERE HIGHLIGHTED AS AREAS WHERE, UM, SHORTER ROADWAY, SOME, LIKE THE DRYDEN PROJECT IS A GREAT EXAMPLE, UH, WHERE THERE'S LITTLE, UH, SHORTER GRID-LIKE, UH, SECTIONS THAT CAN BE ESTABLISHED THERE, WHERE THERE'S NOT AS MUCH RELIANCE ON ONLY WINDWARD PARKWAY TO MOVE THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT. 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS HEARD, UM, THROUGH THE MASTER PLAN DONE A COUPLE YEARS AGO, UH, FOR WINDWARD AND HIGHWAY NINE AS WELL, UH, WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, THE TECH KNOWLEDGE BASED WORKFORCE HAS, HAS BEEN A, A BREAD AND BUTTER, UH, AND A DRIVER FOR THE ECONOMY AND QUALITY OF LIFE UP HERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. 
          SO A LOT OF THIS IS ABOUT CONTINUING TO BE FORWARD THINKING AND PROACTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO EMERGING INDUSTRIES AND HOW TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS AND DESIRES OF THOSE BUSINESSES WITH LAND USE. 
          I'LL PUT A QUICK BOOKMARK HERE. 
          THESE ARE HIGHLIGHTED MORE IN DETAIL AND UPCOMING FOCUS AREA SLIDES, UM, THAT ARE, UH, COMING IN A MINUTE HERE WITH, UH, NATURAL, HISTORIC AND CULTURAL RESOURCES. 
          UM, POLICY SEVEN, I'LL, I'LL DRAW ATTENTION TO, UH, IS ALL ABOUT PROTECTING TREE CANOPY. 
          UM, AND IT'S, IT'S PRETTY EXCITING. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF AT A WATERSHED MOMENT FOR, FOR REGULATION OF THIS IN THE PAST. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD'VE BEEN HARD TO, UH, YOU KNOW, REGULATE IN A, IN A RELIABLE WAY AT SCALE. 
          UH, BUT WITH THE ADVENT OF, OF AERIAL IMAGERY, GIS AI, THE, THE TREE CODE, THE WAY THAT THE CITY REVISITS THAT, UM, ALPHARETTA CAN, CAN REALLY LEAD, UH, IN SOME WAYS AND IN SOME INNOVATIVE WAYS FOR, UM, EFFECTIVELY REGULATING AND, AND MONITORING, UM, THINGS LIKE THE TREE CANOPY WITHIN THE CITY. 
          AND LASTLY, UH, WITH THE POLICY FRAMEWORK HERE, THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND FACILITIES, A BIG ONE HERE IS JUST THE GREENWAY CONNECTIONS TO NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUSINESSES. 
          YOU HAVE, UM, THE INCREDIBLE ASSET OF, OF THE, THE SPINES OF THE BIG CREEK GREENWAY AND ALPHA LINK THAT ARE MERGING. 
          AND, UM, NOW PEOPLE ARE, ARE REALLY WANTING TO CONNECT TO THOSE. 
          SO EXPLORING SOME OF THE WAYS TO DO THAT, UM, EFFECTIVELY AND, AND, UM, ENGAGE IN PARTNERSHIPS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE THIS A, A WALKABLE BEACON, UH, IN THE REGION. 
          AS WE GET INTO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING THE EXISTING MAP. 
          THE ONLY CHANGES TO THE COLORS ON THE MAP ARE, ARE BOTH IN THE WINDWARD AREA, AND, UH, THESE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUTTA THE WINDWARD HIGHWAY NINE MASTER PLAN, BUT WERE ALSO REITERATED QUITE A BIT THROUGH THIS PROCESS. 
          UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE WINDWARD PLAZA AREA, WINDWARD TERRACES AREA, UM, YOU'LL SEE ON THE A SCREEN THERE, YOU'VE SEEN DROP OFFS IN, IN THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          UM, WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOOD THERE, THERE ARE BUSINESSES THAT PEOPLE ENJOY GOING TO, BUT THERE'S A DESIRE FOR A FRESHENING UP, UM, AND ENLIVENING SOME OF THOSE PUBLIC SPACES AND, AND MAYBE STRUCTURALLY RETHINKING ABOUT THOSE, THOSE DISTRICTS A BIT AS WELL. 
          THOSE SUBDISTRICTS A BIT, UM, EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OR THE, THE FIVE FOCUS AREAS THAT, UH, HAVE EMERGED, AND WE HAVE THEM BROKEN UP INTO THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES HERE. 
          AND, AND ALL CATEGORIES ARE CREATED EQUAL. 
          UM, NORTH POINT IS, IS, IS THE GROWTH OPPORTUNITY, THE, UM, THE BIG ENERGY CAPTURE OF, OF THE NEXT, UH, UM, DECADE OR SO. 
          UM, THE NEXT GROUP IS, IS AN ENHANCE AND REPOSITION. 
          AND THIS IS LOOKING AT WINWARD EAST OF 400 IN THE GREAT OAKS RURAL 400 AREA. 
          AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW THESE HAVE SERVED A DISTINCT LOCAL ROLE AND HAVE BEEN A, A POINT OF STRENGTH AND STILL ARE, UM, FOR MANY YEARS. 
          UH, BUT IT, THEY'RE READY FOR THOUGHTFUL, UM, REINVESTMENT OR REPOSITIONING OR JUST GIVING THOUGHT TO WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT 20 YEARS LOOK LIKE, THESE AREAS OF THE CITY. 
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AND THEN FOUR AND FIVE BROOKSIDE AND DOWNTOWN IS, IS A SENSE OF A CONTEXT SENSITIVE CONTINUATION. 
          WE HEARD A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR BOTH OF THESE, BUT ALSO A LOT OF CAUTION OF JUST BE VERY, UH, MINDFUL OF, OF UPHOLDING THE BALANCE AND, AND THE, THE CONTEXT, UH, WITHIN EACH OF THESE AS THEY, AS THEY GROW AND ADD, UM, INVESTMENT. 
          LAST FEW SLIDES HERE, UH, BEFORE WE CAN OPEN UP TO QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION, JUST WALKING THROUGH EACH OF THESE, THESE FOCUS AREAS. 
          UM, THE BIG ONE WITH NORTH POINT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JUMPED OUT TO US, UM, THAT A HUNDRED ACRE AREA THAT IS, UH, PART OF THE CURRENT PUBLIC HEARING APPLICATION FOR THE MALL IS ONLY 15% OF THE LARGER AREA THAT'S SHOWN ON THE SCREEN. 
          SO THERE'S A, A TON OF SPACE OUT HERE. 
          UM, SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S AN ENORMOUS CATALYST POTENTIAL. 
          UM, BUT THERE'S OTHER EFFORTS LIKE THE, THE NORTH, UH, POINT FRAMEWORK PLAN, WHICH TAKES THE, UH, THIS AREA THAT'S 50 DIFFERENT OWNERS WITH DIFFERENT IDEAS ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S IT'S TENANT OBLIGATIONS OR, OR REDEVELOPMENT THOUGHTS IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND IT ALLOWS A FRAMEWORK FOR PIECEMEAL, BUT COHESIVE MOVEMENT TOWARD THE FUTURE. 
          SO THAT'S A, A BIG PART OF THIS IS, IS TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT FRAMEWORK. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, BUILDING OFF OF, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER INVESTMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED DOWN THERE, LIKE THE ENCORE GREENWAY PARK, UM, OTHER REDEVELOPMENT ALONG THE CORRIDOR, THINKING ABOUT WINDWARD. 
          UH, THIS IS AN AREA THAT HAS, UH, KIND OF SUB AREAS AND SUB DYNAMICS WITHIN IT. 
          UH, EDISON MARCONI, UH, IS, IS A, A PART WITHIN IT WHERE, UH, YOU KNOW, PARKING LOTS ARE FULL OFFICES ARE, ARE REALLY BEING USED. 
          UM, YOU HAVE AT AND T AND MORGAN STANLEY AND OTHERS, AND YOU SEE PEOPLE OUT THERE WALKING ALONG WINDWARD IN THE ADJACENT STREETS, UM, IN DROVES. 
          AND AS YOU MOVE INTO THESE OTHER AREAS, UH, THERE'S A, A CHANGE IN, UM, SOME OF THEIR DYNAMICS. 
          AND, AND SO THIS IS AN AREA THAT CAN TAKE A FURTHER LOOK AND CAN, UH, HAVE A, A DIFFERENT TOUCH APPLIED TO AREAS WITHIN IT. 
          IT'S A, IT'S A BIG, A BIG PART OF THE CITY. 
          UM, BIG INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS LIKE THE, UM, INTERCHANGE THAT JUST OPENED OFF OF 400, UH, ALSO HAVE A POSSIBILITY TO CHANGE THE DYNAMIC, PARTICULARLY AT THE NORTHERN END OF THIS DISTRICT WITH GREAT OAKS. 
          I THINK ONE OF THE, THE, THE MOST INTERESTING THINGS, UH, THAT JUMPED OUT TO US IS, IS WHERE THIS IS POSITIONED AND ITS ADJACENCY. 
          IT'S, IT'S GOT, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE GREAT WORK ALONG KIMBALL BRIDGE AND THE CONNECTIONS MADE. 
          UH, THE, THE NORTH POINT ECO DISTRICT IS ALSO, UH, IMMEDIATELY TO ITS EAST. 
          ALL THE ENERGY WITH BROOKSIDE IS, IS, UH, IMMEDIATELY NORTHWEST AND IT'S POSITION THERE. 
          AND IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR, FOR, FOR, UH, FURTHER THOUGHT AND POTENTIALLY A SMALL AREA PLAN. 
          UM, THERE'S PRUNING POTENTIAL WELL WITH SOME OF THESE OFFICE BUILDINGS. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S DEFINITELY ONE THAT, THAT, UH, WE FEEL HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL AND DESERVES MORE, MORE FOCUS GOING FORWARD WITH BROOKSIDE. 
          UM, THIS IS, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO MAKE A NEIGHBORHOOD OUT OF A, UH, FORMERLY, UM, YOU KNOW, FULLY EMPLOYMENT, UH, DESIGNATED DISTRICT, AND, UM, JUST KEEPING PACE WITH SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND, UM, THE CITY DOES REALLY WELL TO INVEST UP FRONT AND THEN WATCH THE PRIVATE, UM, RECIPROCATION ON THE, ON THE BACKEND, UH, AND SEE THAT FOLLOW. 
          SO THAT, AND THEN CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP WITH GEORGIA STATE AND JUST SHARING EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON HERE AND SEEING THEM, UH, COME TO THE TABLE AND BE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THEIR CAMPUS UP HERE. 
          AND THEN DOWNTOWN, UH, NEED NOT SPEAK MUCH ABOUT THIS AS A HUGE POINT OF PRIDE AND IDENTITY FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, IT'S A, A, A TALE OF BALANCING THE MANY USES AND, AND MANY, UM, UH, INTERESTS HERE IN A WAY THAT'S COHESIVE. 
          UM, AND, UH, YEAH, JUST BEING EXTREMELY CONSTANT CONTEXT SENSITIVE ABOUT WHAT GROWTH LOOKS LIKE, WHAT IS ADDITIVE GOING FORWARD, AND HOW DOES IT, UH, HOW DOES IT BLEND WELL WITH, WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, THE, THE SHORT TERM WORK PROGRAM. 
          UH, SO THE CURRENT SHORT TERM WORK PROGRAM, WHICH ALPHARETTA HAS DONE SO MUCH OF, UH, CHECK, CHECK THE COMPLETE BOX THAT MOVES OVER INTO THE REPORT OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          AND THEN THE NEW SHORT TERM WORK PROGRAM IS MADE UP OF A COMBINATION OF ACTIONS FROM THIS PROCESS, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, THE FOUR OR FIVE, UH, PLANNING PROCESSES THAT ARE SHOWN HERE THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. 
          JUST MAKING SURE THEIR, THEIR ACTION PROGRAMS ARE ALSO INCORPORATED IN HERE IN A COHESIVE ROADMAP FORWARD. 
          SO WITH THAT, UH, I WILL TURN IT OVER AND, UH, TURN BACK TO, TO YOU MAYOR FOR ANY DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS. 
          COUNCILMAN DEDO, MR. KERN, WELCOME BACK. 
          THANKS FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS. 
          UH, I AM WITH THE COMMUNITY INPUT AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S INPUT AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS AND, AND 
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NOT AN EASY ONE, BUT IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE EASY, RIGHT? 'CAUSE IT'S, UH, THE FUTURE OF THE CITY. 
          UH, AS FAR AS THE BLUEPRINT GOING FORWARD. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THAT PAGE, YOU, THE, IT WAS ONE OF THE INITIAL PAGES WITH THE QUOTES ON IT. 
          WE GO. 
          SO, UM, I HONED IN ON THE QUOTE FROM THE DEVELOPERS AND REAL ESTATE INVESTORS, NEVER AGAIN WILL OFFER SPACE BE BUILT LIKE IT WAS IN THE 1990S AND TWO THOUSANDS ALFREDA CAPTURE SO MUCH OF THAT, THEY SHOULDN'T GET RID OF TOO MUCH OF IT, BUT SELECTIVELY PRING IT. 
          UM, I JUST WANT YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION ON THAT QUOTE, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN KIND OF DISCUSSING AS A CITY IS AS WE GET DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS COME BEFORE US, A LOT OF OUR PROPOSALS ARE OR HAVE BEEN CONSIDERING REMOVAL OF OFFICE SPACE, A REDUCTION OF OFFICE SPACE, UH, TO GO TO MORE OF A MULTI-USE TYPE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH I, I UNDERSTAND, AND, AND I THINK YOU SAID IT, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S PLACES IN THE CITY THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE TO HONE BACK A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, BUT, AND, AND, AND COUNCIL'S HEARD THIS FOR ME MANY TIMES, I'M, I'M, ONE THING HAS MADE THIS CITY SUCCESSFUL SINCE THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS IS, IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BUSINESS SECTOR OF THE COMMUNITY TO ATTRACT IT AS A PLACE TO INVEST, TO BRING CHILDREN ON TOP OF THE GREAT SCHOOLS WE HAVE IN ALL, ALL PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          I CAN GO DOWN THE LIST, UM, BUT IT, IT, IT'S A, IT'S A REGIONAL BUSINESS HUB. 
          AND, UM, THE REASON WHY CITIES AROUND US HAVE NOT EXCELLED THE WAY WE HAVE IS 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE LEVEL OF OFFICE, COMMERCIAL OFFICE SPACE THAT WE HAVE ON TOP OF THE BENEFIT OF, YOU KNOW, TAKING ON THE BURDEN OF THE TAXES MORE SO THAN THE RESIDENTIAL ALMOST. 
          HMM. 
          SO WE HAVE A VERY GOOD, UM, I THINK IT'S 55, 45, UH, RATIO NOW, UH, WHICH I'D LIKE TO MAINTAIN. 
          UM, I, I JUST WANNA KNOW YOUR OPINION BECAUSE IN MY BUSINESS AND, AND WE WORK, OUR FIRM WORKS AROUND THE WORLD. 
          I'M A SENIOR PARTNER IN MY FIRM, WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF RESURGENCE OF OFFICE SPACE. 
          NOW, GRANTED, IT'S COMING WITH OTHER DEVELOPMENTS AROUND IT. 
          I GET THAT, MAKING IT WALKABLE, THE THINGS THAT, UM, YOUNG PROFESSIONALS ARE LOOKING FOR, UM, DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUSINESSES, ACTUALLY LET THEIR, YOU KNOW, A LOT MORE REMOTE ACCESS TO THESE SPACES, THAT SORT OF THING. 
          I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW MUCH OFFICE SPACE IN A CITY LIKE ALPHARETTA IS WORTH ELIMINATING BASED UPON WHAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, DISCUSSIONS AND INPUT. 
          YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          AND, UM, I THINK THE, THE EXACT NUMBER, UM, MAY NOT BE AS IMPORTANT AS, UM, YEAH, I THINK, I THINK IT'S HARD TO, TO PUT AN EXACT NUMBER ON WHAT THAT IS. 
          AND, AND I THINK THE, THE CASE BY CASE, UM, CONSIDERATION OF EACH OFFICE, UH, CONVERSION IS GONNA BE REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          I, I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT QUOTE, UM, AND I TOLD KATHY AND MICHAEL THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE, THE QUOTES THAT GOT ME MOST INTRIGUED AND EXCITED WHEN, WHEN I HEARD IT, ME TOO, FROM PEOPLE IN THE, IN THE BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY, THEY ESSENTIALLY SAID THIS IDEA OF A TIME CAPSULE WAS, WAS WHAT CAME TO MY MIND, ALFRED AS CAPTURED SOMETHING IN A TIME CAPSULE THAT THEY'RE LIKE, IF ANY COMMUNITY TRIED TO GO AFTER THIS TODAY, THEY COULDN'T DO IT, THE FINANCING WOULDN'T WORK. 
          IT'S JUST LIKE, YOU CAN'T BUILD OFFICE TODAY. 
          LIKE, LIKE THAT. 
          MAYBE THERE WILL BE A PHASE IN THE, WHO KNOWS. 
          BUT ESSENTIALLY THEY, THEY WERE LIKE, YOU'VE CAPTURED SOMETHING AND YOU HAVE IT. 
          SO ONCE YOU KIND OF LET THE CAT OR OPEN THE DOORS TOO WIDE AND IT'S GONE, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO GET BACK. 
          BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, VERY DISCRETIONARY METER WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT. 
          SO IN, IN MY MIND, HEARING THAT IT, IT ALMOST, IT SAID YOU SHOULD, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY HOLD ONTO MORE OF IT THAN, THAN I, I ORIGINALLY THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT MAYBE THIS IS THE ERA WHERE, UM, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN YOU'LL KNOW WHEN IT'S A, A COMMUNITY ADDED PROJECT, UM, THAT IT'S A BETTER THING THAN, THAN WHAT'S THERE AS, AS THE OFFICE. 
          UM, AND, AND SOME OF THE ONES THAT HAVE, HAVE GONE DOWN, UH, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE BROOKSIDE ONE THAT JUST PASSED WAS, IT WAS GONNA BE A LOT TO EVEN GET FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO WORK IN IT. 
          SO THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF AN EASY PRUNING OPPORTUNITY. 
          UM, BUT WITH, YEAH, WITH LIKE YOU SAID, UH, COUNCILMAN OFFICE COMING BACK AND I DROVE THROUGH THE, THE CITY ON A TUESDAY A FEW WEEKS AGO, AND I WAS SHOCKED TO SEE THE PARKING LOTS. 
          I I DIDN'T, I HAD NO IDEA THEY WOULD BOUNCE BACK AND THESE ARE BIG PARKING LOTS. 
          UM, SO, UM, 
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YEAH, I, I I THINK THE ANSWER IS, IS ON MORE ON THE CAUTIOUS SIDE. 
          UM, AND, AND YOU'LL KNOW WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S SOMETHING WHERE YOU, YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT LETTING IT GO. 
          SO, UM, I KNOW THAT'S NOT A SCIENTIFIC NUMBER FOR YOU, BUT, UH, I KNOW IT, IT, IT INFORMS ME ON YOUR OPINION AS A PLANNER, SO MM-HMM . 
          IT, IT, IT'S KIND OF IN SAME LINE OF MY THINKING THAT WE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY OF REDUCING SOME OFFICE CAPACITY IN THE CITY. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK WE HAVE 20 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE VERSUS, UH, JOHNS CREEK AS A 6 MILLION, I THINK. 
          AND EWELL HAS 2 MILLION. 
          SO REASON WHY WE ATTRACT PEOPLE HERE IN BUSINESSES, 'CAUSE WE'RE A GREAT HUB FOR MM-HMM . 
          WE'RE A REGIONAL HUB FOR BUSINESS IN, IN THE SOUTHEAST, FRANKLY, AND I WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. 
          THE, THE FOLLOW UP TO THAT IS, AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THE MAIN SECTORS OF THE CITY, WHETHER IT BE BROOKSIDE THAT'S ALREADY UNDER PLAN. 
          WE, WE KNOW WHERE THAT'S GOING. 
          UM, THE NORTH POINT MALL, THE WYNWOOD EAST OF GEORGIA, 400 AND THE, THE GREAT OAKS ROYAL, UH, AREA, GREAT OAKS ROYAL AREA IS A BEAUTIFUL ACREAGE OF BUSINESS COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S, YOU DRIVE THROUGH THERE, IT'S LIKE, IT, IT'S A GEM, RIGHT? JUST LIKE SANCTUARY PARK, WE TALKED THE OTHER DAY THAT IT'S A GEM IN THE CITY IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH SANCTUARY PARK AND, AND THE CORPORATIONS THAT ARE ON THERE, SOME OF THE TOP COMPANIES IN THE WORLD, RIGHT? SO MY SENSE ON GREAT, UM, GREAT OAKS AND ROYAL 400 AREA IS WE WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL ON REDEVELOPING THAT INTO MULTI-USE SO QUICKLY BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER AREAS OF CITY GOING THROUGH THAT TRANS, UH, TRANSFORMATION NOW, RIGHT? THROUGH APPROVALS THAT WE'VE MADE. 
          UM, AND SO THE COUNTER TO THAT IS HOW MUCH MULTI-USE REDEVELOPMENT CAN THE CITY SUSTAIN? AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS AT WHAT POINT DO WE ERODE THE COMMERCIAL, UH, ENHANCEMENT OF THESE MULTI-USE DEVELOPMENTS WHERE IT STARTS ERODING, UM, WHERE WE START, START GETTING VACANCIES AND STUFF ON COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT RETAIL AND STUFF LIKE THAT, RESTAURANTS WHERE WE HAVE TOO MUCH OF IT ALL COMPETING FACTORS, RIGHT? THE REASON WHY NORTH POINT MALL IS BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, TURNING INTO A DUST JAR RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE THE, THAT WAS BUILT IN EARLY 2000, RIGHT? I THINK, OR EVEN EARLIER THAN THAT 1998, I THINK. 
          UM, AND, AND IT DIDN'T STAY UP TO THE STANDARDS OF WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO INVEST IN AND BE PART OF, SUCH AS AVALON. 
          RIGHT? VERY SUCCESSFUL. 
          UM, AND SO MY POINT BEING IS WE CAN ALMOST HAVE TOO MUCH OF IT IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL. 
          UM, 'CAUSE THEN IT WILL NOT ONLY ERODE THE VIABILITY OF AREAS WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE CITY, SIMILAR TO NORTH POINT MALL. 
          SO I WAS JUST WONDERING YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT. 
          I MEAN, IS IS THERE A, IS THERE A CAP ON, ON TOP OF THE, THE TRAFFIC IT CREATES? RIGHT. 
          UM, AND, AND AS MUCH AS WE WANNA DO ABOUT TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION, OUR BIG, OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM IS BECAUSE ALPHARETTA'S A LONG 400 CORRIDOR. 
          ALL OUR CITIES ARE FEEDING THROUGH ALPHARETTA. 
          SO ALL JOHNS C CREEK, UH, ROSWELL, MILTON, THEY'RE ALL COMING THROUGH ALPHARETTA BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THEY GET TO GEORGIA 400. 
          RIGHT? YEAH. 
          WE CAN'T CONTROL WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT, BUT GUARANTEED IT'S GONNA INCREASE. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVING TO THOSE AREAS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, UM, UH, WE ALSO HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVES. 
          'CAUSE YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME. 
          WE, WE, WE TRACK MORE TRAFFIC. 
          SO I'M GETTING OFF MY POINT HERE, BUT MY POINT IS, UM, N NORTH POINT MALL AREA, WHICH WE'RE VERY FOCUSED ON SINCE I'VE BEEN BACK IN COUNCIL AND PREVIOUSLY ME REJOINING COUNCIL, THIS COUNCIL'S BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD ON THAT. 
          UM, WE'RE ABOUT READY TO SEE, HOPEFULLY A SIDE PLAN THEM BEFORE US IN AUGUST, UM, WHICH COULD INCLUDE A SPORTING, UH, SLASH NHL ARENA. 
          RIGHT. 
          HOW IMPORTANT IS THE NHL ARENA TO THE REDEVELOPMENT THAT AREA? 'CAUSE EVEN IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU SHOWED IT, BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE, THE PLAN RIGHT NOW, RIGHT. 
          AT LEAST COMING DOWN THE PIKE. 
          HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT FOR THE VIABILITY OF ACHIEVING THE VISION FOR NORTH POINT MALL REDEVELOPMENT VERSUS IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT, IS IT STILL SUSTAINABLE TO THE LEVEL THAT WE'RE SHOWING THE OTHER REDEVELOPMENT AREAS OF NORTH POINT MALL CORRIDOR, INCLUDING THE RETAIL, HOTELS, OFFICE, HOUSING COMPONENTS, THAT SORT OF THING? YEAH. 
          UM, YEAH, I THINK, UH, SOME OF IT'S 
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A, A PARADIGM. 
          I THINK WE WERE TALKING TODAY ABOUT JUST THINKING OF IT AS A, UH, A STADIUM WITHIN A VILLAGE VERSUS A, A STADIUM AND THEN A VILLAGE AROUND IT. 
          SO IT'S, UM, I I THINK IF, IF IT WAS THE ONLY THING ON THE TABLE, UM, THAT THAT WOULD BE ONE THING, BUT I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ENVISIONING ABOUT WHAT THAT DISTRICT COULD LOOK LIKE AS A WHOLE AND, AND THE, THE ASPECTS THAT IT HAS THAT DIFFER FROM DOWNTOWN AND AVALON AND, UM, ITS ADJACENCY TO SOME BEAUTIFUL NATURAL FEATURES AND HOW TO, UM, SO I THINK THAT THAT CERTAINLY HELPS JUST OPEN THE DOOR FOR SUCCESS. 
          WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY ANY ARENA, ANY SPORTING ARENA OR JUST AN ARENA IN GENERAL, OR, OR A, UM, YOU KNOW, A PERFORMANCE CENTER, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, WOULD OWN, ENHANCE THAT AREA? YEAH. 
          MAKE IT EVEN MORE OF A ATTRACTIVE PLACE TO, UM, ACHIEVE THE VISION OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE THERE. 
          IS THAT FAIR? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE, ANOTHER WATERSHED MOMENT IS, IS THE ARENA DISTRICT KIND OF AGE WHERE, YOU KNOW, AND THE BRAVES HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB AND THEY'RE BEING MODELED BY, BY OTHER COMMUNITIES OF, OF HOW IT'S MORE THAN JUST THE STADIUM. 
          IT'S, IT'S THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE. 
          IT'S THE, UM, SO THAT, THAT'S A, A VERY EXCITING PROPOSITION, I THINK. 
          UM, YEAH, THAT'S A HUGE CATA AND THE AREA IS SO BIG THAT IT, IT, IT DOES NEED SOME BIG, BIG THINGS, I THINK TO, TO, TO ELEVATE IT. 
          ONE MORE QUESTION, I'LL LET MY COLLEAGUES SPEAK AS WELL, ASK QUESTIONS, BUT THE, UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN OF, UH, THE HORIZON 2040 COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, WHICH WAS THE LAST TIME THE CITY DID IT, THIS IS THE 2045 PLAN IN DRAFT FORM RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, IS IT FAIR TO SAY, 'CAUSE WE, I I, I TRIED TO READ THROUGH THIS FROM THE MEETING SITE AND THEN LOVE TO GET YOUR PRESENTATION, BY THE WAY, IF YOU COULD SHARE A COPY OF THAT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          BUT PUTTING THAT ASIDE, A LOT OF INFORMATION, A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION, UH, THAT CAME THROUGH THIS WITH A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT. 
          UM, IS IT FAIR TO SAY, LIKE THE, THESE AREAS THAT YOU POINTED OUT, WHETHER IT BE NORTH POINT WINDWARD, EAST OF 400, ROYAL 400, UM, BROOKSIDE, THOSE ARE THE AREAS OF CHANGE IN THAT COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN VERSUS THE 2040 HORIZON PLAN. 
          WOULD THAT BE FAIR? DOES THAT, I I COULDN'T DECIPHER SIGNIFICANT OTHER CHANGES OTHER THAN THOSE, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, AND, AND YEAH, I, I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, THERE'S SOME SHARED SIMILARITIES. 
          2040 NORTH POINT WAS THE NUMBER ONE THERE AS WELL. 
          AND RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE WORK THAT FOLLOWED OUTTA THAT BROOKSIDE WAS THERE AS WELL, BUT IT WAS AT A DIFFERENT POINT. 
          IT WAS MORE HOW DO WE CATALYZE IT? AND NOW IT'S, IT'S CATALYZED AND WHAT, WHAT DOES REFINEMENT AND CONTEXT SENSITIVITY LOOKS LIKE? SO A LOT OF THEM ARE SIMILAR, BUT, UM, YEAH, THERE ARE SOME, SOME VARIATIONS ON, UM, THERE WAS MORE OF AN EM EMPHASIS ON EAST OF 400, UM, THIS, THIS PLAN, UM, I THINK THAN THAN 2040. 
          UM, SO YES. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS NO, IT DOES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. CAR. 
          YES, SIR. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          COUNCILWOMAN REEVES, FIRST OF ALL, BEN, THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. 
          THERE IS A TON OF INFORMATION HERE AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          I APPRECIATE THE TIME. 
          WE SPENT, I THINK, AN HOUR ON THE PHONE. 
          UM, I WISH I'D HAD 12 WITH YOU, . 
          UM, LOTS OF, LOTS OF HITS, SOME MISSES. 
          UM, I WASN'T AROUND WHEN THE PLAN CAME TO DO THIS. 
          I WAS, I WAS A CANDIDATE. 
          I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A SAY. 
          UM, BUT LAST FALL WHEN THEY HAD THE PUBLIC COMMENT, PUBLIC SURVEY WAS OUT THERE. 
          SO REALLY BUSY ELECTION TIME. 
          IT WAS A SPECIAL ELECTION. 
          WE WERE ALL GETTING INUNDATED WITH LOTS AND LOTS OF NOT GREAT TEXTS AND EMAILS AND WHATNOT. 
          AND 450 SURVEY RESPONSES MAKES ME SAD. 
          I THINK I TOLD YOU THAT IN JANUARY. 
          IT MAKES ME REALLY SAD. 
          WE HAVE 67,000 PEOPLE WHO SLEEP HERE AT NIGHT, SO THAT MAKES ME SAD, GUYS. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S A HUGE, UM, A HUGE, HUGE BELLWETHER OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN ALPHARETTA CITIZENS' MINDS. 
          I KNOCKED ON A LOT OF DOORS, AND I'M NOT GONNA SAY THE NUMBERS 'CAUSE YOU GUYS HEARD IT, AND YOU'RE PROBABLY SICK OF IT, BUT I WAS OUT TALKING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE LAST YEAR. 
          AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE, AND MUCH OF THIS IS SIMILAR. 
          THE HOUSING, NOT, UM, MAYBE IT'S OUR, OUR, OUR STREET CONSTRUCTION THAT IS, YOU KNOW, IS, IS PUTTING A REALLY BIG EMPHASIS ON THIS. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ARE A TOWN HOME DEVELOPER AND YOU'RE AN APARTMENT DEVELOPER, YOU WANNA BE AN ALPHARETTA. 
          MOST PEOPLE IN ALPHARETTA DON'T WANT THAT. 
          SO THEY DON'T WANT THEIR OFFICE SPACE CONVERTED. 
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SO THAT'S NOT WHAT I'VE HEARD. 
          THAT IS NOT THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY. 
          I THINK THAT BROOKSIDE, I THINK DOWNTOWN IS OBVIOUSLY HUGE SUCCESS. 
          AND PREVIOUS COUNCILS DID AMAZING JOB AND GREAT VISION. 
          UM, AVALON IS GREAT SUCCESS. 
          I DON'T THINK A MIXED USE ON EVERY CORNER WITH RETAIL AND HOUSING IS GONNA BE GOOD FOR ANYBODY, INCLUDING THE TENANTS OF THE, OF THE MIXED USE. 
          I THINK WE CAN OVERDO IT JUST LIKE WE CAN OVERDO TOWN HOMES, JUST LIKE WE CAN OVERDO ANYTHING. 
          AND SO I HAVE GRAVE CONCERN THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED TO ENOUGH PEOPLE, AND THIS HAS A DEADLINE OF JUNE 30, AND THERE'S SO MUCH INFORMATION IN HERE, AND I KNOW PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY LOVE 90% OF THIS, AND THERE'S 10% WHERE THEY'RE LIKE, THEY'RE, YOU'RE NOT A LITTLE BIT OFF THE MARK, WAY OFF THE MARK. 
          LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DENSITY BONUSES ARE, BUT LIKE, PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME, I WANT MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE. 
          THEY SAY IT ALL THE TIME AND I'M LIKE, I HEAR YA. 
          BUT LIVING AN ALPHARETTA LIKE BEACHFRONT RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE EVERY DAY THAT LEAVE THEIR HOUSES IN ALPHARETTA AND THEY DRIVE ALL THE WAY TO DOWNTOWN ATLANTA FOR WORK. 
          AND YOU TAKE THAT SAME THING AND YOU GO AROUND THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA, BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, WE DON'T LIVE IN A VACUUM. 
          FORESITE THIS BUILDING, CHEROKEE'S BUILDING JOHNS CREEK'S BUILDING, ROSWELL'S BUILDING. 
          SANDY SPRINGS IS BUILDING SWAN'S, BUILDING EVERYBODY'S BUILDING. 
          YOU DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE ALL OF THE HOUSING WITHIN A FIVE MILE RADIUS OF DOWNTOWN ALPHARETTA. 
          I I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT OUR CITIZENS BELIEVE THAT. 
          AND I KNOW THIS ISN'T THE POPULAR THING TO SAY, AND THIS IS NOT THE FUN THING TO SAY, BUT THIS IS GENUINELY WHAT I HEARD. 
          PEOPLE ARE REALLY CONCERNED. 
          THEY LOVE THE TREE CANOPY. 
          THEY DEFINITELY WANT US TO WORK ON KEEPING THE TREE CANOPY. 
          THEY DEFINITELY WANT NORTH POINT DEVELOPED A HUNDRED PERCENT, DEFINITELY WANT SOMETHING TO HAPPEN IN THE WINDWARD PARKWAY, EAST EAST OF 400. 
          DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE DENSE HOUSING ON ANYBODY'S WISHLIST, BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT SOME OF THOSE THINGS TO HAPPEN. 
          AND SOME OF THE VISIONING THAT HAS BEEN DONE BY KATHY AND HER TEAM, THE LIVABLE COMMUNITIES INITIATIVES, THEY'RE FABULOUS. 
          AND BROOKSIDE IS HERE. 
          AND BROOKSIDE I THINK IS AN ANOMALY BECAUSE ORIGINALLY WE PLANNED FOR ALL DENSITY MANY YEARS AGO IN THIS TOWN TO BE BETWEEN NORTH POINT AND WEST SIDE AND MANSEL AND, AND WIND PARKWAY. 
          AND I THINK THAT THE NORTH POINT PROJECT REALLY FITS NICELY IN THERE. 
          BUT AS WE START TAKING DENSITY OUT, OUT FARTHER AWAY FROM OUR EXITS ON 400, WE HIT TWO LANE ROADS, TWO LANE ROADS THAT ARE NOT GONNA BE FOUR LANE, THEY'RE TWO LANE ROADS. 
          WE JUST REDID A LOT OF THEM. 
          SO I WOULD JUST CAUTION ALL OF US TO EXERCISE SOME CAUTION, TAKE A LOOK AT THE WORK AND SEE WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SAYING. 
          WHAT KIND OF A BLUEPRINT ARE WE PUTTING OUT THERE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS? I'VE, I LOVE MOST OF IT. 
          THE PART I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE PART THAT I HEAR EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED ABOUT. 
          I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ON A TIPPING POINT HERE IN ALPHARETTA, AND THEY'RE VERY WORRIED ABOUT THE DECISIONS WE MAKE. 
          AND MAYBE I'M OVERBLOWN WITH IT, BUT I'VE BEEN CALLED BACK BEFORE AND BEEN ACCUSED OF THAT BEFORE. 
          BUT I FEEL THE SAME PASSION THAT I HEARD FROM THE CONSTITUENTS, AND I HOPE THAT WE LOOK AT SOME OF THIS VERY CAREFULLY BEFORE WE DO A FINAL VOTE ON IT. 
          AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR MORE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ON IT. 
          THAT WOULD BE FOR ME. 
          THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN. 
          HI. 
          UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          UM, MR. KERN, I DO APPRECIATE THE EFFORT ON THE DOCUMENT. 
          UM, THERE IS SOME GREAT INFORMATION IN HERE. 
          I THINK, UH, I WANT TO COMMEND OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UH, DEPARTMENT, UH, AND YOURSELF ON THE PROCESS FOR, UH, ADVERTISING AND MAKING THIS AVAILABLE FOR CITIZEN INPUT. 
          I THINK MANY OF US UP HERE RECOGNIZE THE DANGER OF WHEN ANY OF US SAYS, EVERYBODY AGREES ONE WAY, THE WAY I THINK, WHEN IN FACT, I THINK ANY OF US CAN LOOK AT THIS DOCUMENT AND FIND A DIFFERENT SLICE OF WHAT WE LIKE AND DON'T LIKE. 
          BUT, UH, YEAH, BLANKETS, BLANKET STATEMENTS SOMETIMES FALL A LITTLE FLAT WHEN WE PUT THE EFFORT THAT WE PUT INTO, UH, UH, TO CREATE THIS DOCUMENT AND THE UPDATE OF THE 2040. 
          UM, JUST AS AN ASIDE, I'VE TALKED TO MANY PEOPLE, SO EVERYBODY CAN'T BE EVERYBODY BECAUSE I HEAR DIFFERENT THINGS THAN MAYBE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SITTING UP HERE IN TERMS OF HOW WE'VE BEEN GOING ABOUT OUR CITY. 
          YOU KNOW, THE FACT WE'RE THE NUMBER ONE CITY OR NUMBER TWO CITY IN GEORGIA OR THE US YOU KNOW, WE CAN SET ALL THAT ASIDE. 
          I KNOW THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF PRIDE 
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IN THIS CITY ABOUT HOW IT'S, UH, PROGRESSED AND DEVELOPED, UH, AND CONTINUES TO DO SO. 
          AND IN FACT, THIS DOCUMENT BEARS OUT MANY OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, THAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED. 
          AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, UH, I DO HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. 
          YOU JUST STOOD THERE AND LISTENED TO A LOT OF, A LOT OF TALK, BUT I, I, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. 
          UM, THE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED, AND I'M LOOKING FOR CONTEXT, MR. KERN, UH, EITHER WITHIN ALPHARETTA OR WITHIN NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY JUMPED OUT AT ME IN THIS DOCUMENT WAS THAT FROM 2020 TO 2025, OUR MEDIAN AGE HAS GONE FROM 33 YEARS OLD TO, UH, 41 YEARS OLD. 
          AND I THINK OF ALL THE ARCANE AND GRANULAR STATISTICS AND INFO IN HERE, THAT THAT ONE WAS AN EYEOPENER FOR ME. 
          UH, WE USED TO BE A YOUNG YOUTHFUL TOWN. 
          WE'RE MORE OF A MIDDLE AGED TOWN NOW, MAYBE. 
          NOW, HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES? IF, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO COMMENT ON YOU. 
          YOU, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY TELL ME IF YOU CAN COMMENT IN TERMS OF PUTTING A CONTEXT ABOUT WHERE WE ARE VERSUS SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN YOUR CHARGE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          YEAH, THAT, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          I DON'T HAVE THE, THE NUMBERS IN OTHER COMMUNITY. 
          I HAVE, UH, KIND OF AN ANECDOTAL ASSUMPTION THAT, THAT, THAT THAT TREND IS, IS HAPPENING IN NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES LIKE SWELL AND JOHNS CREEK. 
          AND, AND, UH, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE. 
          SO I I WOULD HATE TO, UM, OKAY. 
          THROW SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT'S, THAT'S WRONG. 
          BUT, UM, YEAH, THAT, THAT IS A STATISTIC THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN OTHER SIMILAR COMMUNITIES TO ALPHARETTA IN THEIR LIFE CYCLE AS A COMMUNITY. 
          UM, MEANING, UM, AS THEY'VE GROWN AND AS, UH, THEY'VE BECOME MORE DESIRABLE AND, AND COSTS HAVE GONE UP FOR THE, WE HAVE SEEN THAT IN OTHER SIMILAR TYPE COMMUNITIES, THAT SAME KIND OF TRANSFORMATION IS THE AGING OF ALPHARETTA AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES BEING DRIVEN IN LARGE PART JUST BY THE HOUSING COSTS. 
          YEAH, I I THINK IT'S SAFE TO ASSUME THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S DEFINITELY AN INGREDIENT WITHIN IT. 
          UM, I THINK THERE'S A, THERE IS A POPULATION MIGRATION NORTH IN THE METRO. 
          IF YOU FOLLOW, YOU KNOW, THE WOODSTOCKS, THE CUMMINGS, THE DAWSONVILLE, THOSE ARE ALL, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BIG, BIG PEAKS. 
          UM, SO I THINK YEAH, THAT, THAT THE, THERE'S A MIGRATION THAT'S, THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE BROADER REGION. 
          BUT YES, SIR, AGAIN, ASKING ABOUT CONTEXT, I'M ON PAGE 10 OF YOUR DOCUMENT THAT'S IN THE PACKET, AND IT, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S IN OUR MONTHLY FINANCIAL UPDATES. 
          AND IT'S SHOWING OUR TAX DATES AT 49% RESIDENTIAL, 51%, UM, COMMERCIAL. 
          AND, UH, I'VE ALWAYS OPERATED UNDER THE NUMBER, TRADITIONALLY, CERTAINLY PRE COVID, THAT WE WERE ABOUT 60 40 IN FAVOR OF COMMERCIAL. 
          AND, UH, IS, IS THAT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS? IS THAT RATIO HAS COME DOWN IN TERMS OF THE COMMERCIAL TAX BASE SUPPORTING, UH, ALL OF THE AMENITIES AND THINGS THAT WE PAY FOR HERE IN ALPHARETTA? UH, YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          UH, COUNCILMAN THE, THIS IS PULLING STRAIGHT FROM THE, UH, FINANCIAL, UM, REPORT. 
          SO I I THINK YEAH, YOU CAN, YOU CAN KIND OF COMPARE YEAR BY YEAR AND, AND, AND SEE, UM, HOW THAT SEGMENTATION IS. 
          AND UM, I, I KNOW THIS WAS BROUGHT UP A COUPLE TIMES WITH THAT SEGMENTATION COMPARED TO OTHER NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES AS WELL AND, AND HOW, HOW MUCH HIGHER RESIDENTIAL MIGHT BE AND, UM, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES. 
          BUT YES. 
          UM, YES SIR. 
          WELL, AGAIN, UNDER, YOU KNOW, GOOD INFORMATION TO BACK UP CONCLUSIONS UNDER WORKFORCE PRESENCE, YOU'VE GOT ACTUAL, UH, CASE STUDIES OF WHERE OFFICES UP IN OFFICES DOWN, UH, PRE COVID TO, TO CURRENT. 
          AND THEN WE GET TO PAGE 23. 
          AND WE'VE GOT, UH, WITHIN THE HOUSING MARKET, YOU'VE GOT THE, UH, THE POPULATION GRAPHS WITH THE, UH, UH, DECENNIAL CENSUS AND THEN AN ESTIMATE ON 2025. 
          AND I SEE THAT SINCE 2020, WE HAVE GROWN BY 667 PEOPLE. 
          UH, IS THAT CONSISTENT WITH SOME OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES? I, I SAW SOME DATA A YEAR AGO WHERE ACTUALLY IT, IT INDICATED OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES HAVE ACTUALLY DECLINED IN POPULATION AND WE WERE THE ONLY ONE WITH A NET GAIN FROM THE 2020. 
          UH, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I, THE, THE 2020 CENSUS IS, WAS AN, AN INTERESTING ONE. 
          'CAUSE I THINK SOME OF THE DATA, UM, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THAT TIME IT'S, UM, YEAH, WE, WE, WE WERE EXPLORING THOSE SAME DIFFERENCES IN NUMBERS AND, UM, WELL, IF WE WERE UNDER 
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REPORTED IN 2020, THEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE HAD A DECLINE IN OUR POPULATION. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S THE ASSUMPTION I WOULD DRAW. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, UM, SO IF, IF OUR, UM, POPULATION'S ONLY GONE UP 667 PER PAGE 23, AND ON PAGE 29, WE'VE ONLY HAD 1,355 BUILDING PERMITS OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, OR 271 BUILDING PERMITS PER YEAR, UH, WE'RE WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT EVEN GROWING THAT FAST. 
          IS THAT AN ASSUMPTION OF YOURS, OR, UH, YES, SIR. 
          I THINK THE, THE COMBINATION OF THAT AND THE HOUSEHOLD SIZE HAS DECREASED. 
          UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE 22,000 TO 2025, THAT NUMBER HAS DROPPED. 
          SO SMALLER HOUSEHOLDS COMBINED WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE STABILIZING OR, OR THE, THE DIP IN, IN PERMITS WOULD, WOULD BE MY ASSUMPTION WITH GROWTH. 
          I, I KNOW THERE'S A PERCEPTION THAT'S EASY TO FEED THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GROWING LIKE CRAZY AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC IS INCREASING EVERYWHERE WITHIN, UH, ALPHARETTA. 
          BUT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, UH, 2020 7,000, UH, POPULATION INCREASE FROM, UH, 2000 TO 2010, UH, AND THEN, UM, ANOTHER 13,000 ON TOP OF THAT TO 2020, OUR BUILDING PERMITS BACK IN 2000, WERE AVERAGING 600 PLUS PER YEAR, NOT 200 PER YEAR. 
          SO IS, IS THAT RELATED TO THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE RAW LAND TO DEVELOP NOW AND, AND WE'RE IN A REDEVELOPMENT MODE, YOU GOTTA TEAR SOMETHING DOWN IN ORDER TO BUILD SOMETHING? I BELIEVE SO. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT A MAP OF 2000, UM, THERE WERE SOME VERY BIG GREENFIELDS THAT WERE, UM, UH, YEAH, JUST A LOT OF ACREAGE THAT WAS A GREENFIELD REDEVELOPMENT AS OPPOSED TO, UM, THE FEW THAT ARE LEFT AND, AND, AND THE REDEVELOPMENT, UM, GRAYFIELD REDEVELOPMENT THAT MIGHT BE, UM, MORE CAUTIOUSLY APPROACHED, UH, TODAY. 
          WELL, AS A LAND USE PLANNER AND, AND IN TERMS OF THIS DOCUMENT, IF WE, IF WE LOOK AT STATISTICS AND WORK THROUGH THEM AND SEE THAT WE'RE, UH, THE PHASE OF ALPHARETTA IS IN AT THIS STAGE AND GOING FORWARD ISN'T DEVELOPMENT OF RAW LAND, BUT RATHER REDEVELOPMENT, I THINK OF HARRY'S FARMER'S MARKET, I THINK OF THE HAMILTON HOTEL, I THINK WHERE THE GAS STATION USED TO BE FOR LIBERTY HALL, UH, ON AND ON AND ON AND ON, I THINK OF PORTMAN AND TEARING DOWN AND OFFICE BUILDING. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU SEE FROM A LAND USE PLANNING FROM THIS DOCUMENT GIVING US A, A NORTH STAR? WHAT, WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE FOR, FOR REDEVELOPMENT, WHICH I THINK IS A DEFINING FACTOR FOR THIS COUNCIL. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          AND, AND I THINK TO, TO, UH, CIRCLE BACK TO COUNCILMAN DORITO'S POINT, I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS KNOWING, YOU KNOW, WHEN TO NOT, UH, THE, THE, THE STRENGTH OF, I LIKE TO VIEW AS PLACES OF, OF STRENGTH AS HAVING DIFFERENT OPTIONS, HAVING NOT, NOT TOO MUCH OF THE SAME THING. 
          SO, UM, WHEN WE, WHEN WE PUT, UH, THINK OF GREAT OAKS OR, OR, UH, SANCTUARY PARK, UM, YOU KNOW, STUFF IS CYCLICAL. 
          SAME WITH FASHION, SAME WITH MAYBE THE, THE WHAT THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY WERE BUILT AS. 
          UM, THEY MIGHT COME BACK AROUND WHERE THAT'S, THAT'S THE THING THAT PEOPLE WANT, YOU KNOW, IN, IN 20 YEARS. 
          UH, IT, IT'S TOUGH TO KNOW. 
          SO I THINK WHEN WE THINK OF A FOCUS AREA, IT'S NOT JUST MAYBE PUTTING A LASER ON, SAY GREAT OAKS AND SAYING, LET'S REDEVELOP IT AND MIX USE. 
          IT MIGHT BE LIKE, LET'S, LET'S FOCUS ON IT. 
          LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT SHOULD BE DONE HERE. 
          AND MAYBE THE, THE, THE OUTCOME OF THAT FOCUS IS LET'S LEAVE IT AS IT IS BECAUSE THAT'S MORE VALUABLE AND THAT KEEPS A, A BROADER PIE OF OPTIONS WITHIN, UH, LAND USE, UM, THAN, UM, THAN IF WE WERE TO, TO CHANGE IT. 
          SO, UM, I, I THINK THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, JUST KNOWING WHERE AND WHY, UM, COUNCILMAN HEES, I THINK WOULD BE, AND THAT'S WHERE, UH, MORE DETAILED STUDY INTO WHERE ARE THE PLACES THAT KIND OF NEED THAT, THAT MATCH LIT OF ENERGY AND, AND WE NEED TO SIGNAL THAT FOR THE SAKE OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. 
          AND WHERE, UH, WHERE DO WE, NOT, WHERE DO WE WANNA KIND OF SAY, NO, NO, NO, THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, THIS DOESN'T NEED TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, TURNED INTO, TO SOMETHING THAT WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO UNDO. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S A, THAT'S A, A FURTHER CASE BY CASE OF ITS OWN, BUT, UM, I THINK MORE THINKING CAN BE DONE ABOUT WHAT ARE THE, THE PLACES OF PRUNING AND WHY, AND IF WE DON'T DO IT, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN VERSUS, UM, HOW MANY OF THESE CAN SURVIVE, UM, ON THEIR OWN AND, AND MAYBE HAVE AN UPSWING IN THE NEXT CYCLE OF, OF USE. 
          WELL, WHERE, WHERE THE RUBBER HITS THE ROAD FOR 2045 PLAN IS, UH, DO, DO YOU SEE A, A BLENDING AND MELDING OF THESE MIXED USE NODES. 
          NOW, 
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WHEN I SPOKE TO YOU, I WAS KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THAT, HOW WE'VE NOT CENTRALIZED LIKE A GREENVILLE, BUT WE'VE DEVELOPED MIXED USE NODES AROUND A CITY AND, YOU KNOW, CAN, CAN RESIDENTIAL BEDROOM COMMUNITIES CO-EXIST SIDE BY SIDE WITH MIXED JUDES MIXED USE NODES? UH, ARE WE CREATING THAT MODEL? ARE WE, UH, PERFECTING THAT MODEL? WHAT'S WHAT FROM A LAND USE PLANNING, HOW DO YOU SEE THAT? YEAH, I THINK, UM, YEAH, IN MY MIND, I MEAN, ALPHARETTA'S, UM, DOING A, AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF, UM, CREATING AND IMP PERFECTING THAT MODEL. 
          I HAD A COLLEAGUE, UH, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, SAY, THE PUBLIC SPACES AROUND HERE AND SOME OF THE ACTIVATED, UM, AREAS THAT THE CITY HAS, HAS LARGELY LED ON, UM, REMINDED HIM OF, OF SAVANNAH. 
          AND THAT'S A, A INCREDIBLE COMMENT FOR A COMMUNITY THAT, UM, A LOT OF THESE SPACES HAVE, HAVE EMERGED IN, IN RECENT YEARS. 
          AND IT'S BEING COMPARED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, A PLACE LIKE IT. 
          SO I, I, I THINK, UM, WHAT'S BEEN DONE, UM, THERE'S A, A QUOTA LIKE WHERE, WHERE, UH, SO MUCH OF, OF CITY LIFE HAPPENS BETWEEN THE BUILDING. 
          WHAT IS THE WORLD BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS? AND I THINK THE CITY DOES A, AN, AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF WHAT ARE THESE SPACES WHERE, WHERE COMMUNITY LIFE CAN HAPPEN. 
          AND I THINK AS LONG AS YOU'RE LEADING IN THAT WHEREVER IT IS IN THE CITY, THAT'S A KIND OF A TIMELESS STRATEGY THAT HUMANIZES AND, AND MAKES, UH, A PLACE, UM, ENVIABLE AND DESIRABLE AND, AND SOME OF THE ECONOMIC AND, UM, POSITIVE LAND USE, UM, ACTIONS TYPICALLY FOLLOW. 
          UM, SO, WELL, FOR MY PART, UM, YOU KNOW, MY HOPE IS THAT AS WE TAKE THIS LAND USE PLAN DOCUMENT, WE'RE NOT HAVING PEOPLE ACTIVATE SPACES, BUT WE'RE HAVE, WE'RE CREATING SPACES THAT ACTIVATE PEOPLE. 
          AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD DOCUMENT AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE OUT THERE LISTENING AND IN THE AUDIENCE TO ACCESS IT AND GO THROUGH IT, HAS REALLY GOOD INFORMATION. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCIL. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. KERNS QUESTION? OKAY, THANK YOU MR. KERNS. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          MS. OR HUSKY, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR, WE DO NOT. 
          YOU SAID THERE WERE NONE? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BEFORE I CALLED TO SEE IF ANYONE WANTS TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. 
          NOW'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. 
          I SEE NO ONE COMING FORWARD, SO I'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          UH, MR. MAYOR, JUST BEFORE Y'ALL, YOU CALL FOR A VOTE. 
          I THINK I NEED TO READ THE RESOLUTION. 
          THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHY YOU MAKE THE BIG BUCKS , A RESOLUTION BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ALFREDO, GEORGIA FOR THE TRANSMITTAL OF THE 2045 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO THE GEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS AND TO THE ATLANTA REGIONAL COMMISSION FOR OFFICIAL REVIEW. 
          THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
          DO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNSEL? YES, SIR. 
          MR. MAYOR, OFFER A MOTION THIS EVENING TO APPROVE PH DASH TWO SIX DASH 0 9 20 45, ALPHARETTA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND TRANSMITTAL HEARING AS PRESENTED THIS SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PROTO MARKWELL. 
          SECOND, I BELIEVE THAT WAS COUNCILMAN. 
          HES SECOND BY COUNCILMAN. 
          HES IN DISCUSSION. 
          COUNCILWOMAN REESE. 
          UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC OVER THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS THAT THERE, THAT IF WE VOTE TO TRANSMIT THIS, CAN WE MAKE, UM, ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO IT? SHOULD WE WISH TO MS. S SWINE? I'M GONNA DEFER TO KATHY AND STAFF JUST TO SEE IF THEY KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD. 
          OTHERWISE, I'LL NEED SOME TIME TO LOOK INTO, IF THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT COMMENTS, WE'D HAVE TO RESUBMIT IT BACK TO THE STATE SO THAT WOULDN'T MEET OUR DEADLINE. 
          SO TONIGHT IS THE RESOLUTION TO APPROVE FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND TRANSMIT TO THE STATE. 
          BUT IF, IF WHAT CHANGES YOU, YOU KNOW, DURING THAT TIME, WE WOULD HAVE TO RESUBMIT BACK TO THE STATE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK PUT INTO THIS AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE A LOT OF THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THIS. 
          AND IT DID CAPTURE A LOT OF WHAT WE AS ALPHA REDS VALUE OUR PARKS AND OUR TREES AND, AND, AND SO MUCH OF WHAT HAS BEEN DONE BY PREVIOUS COUNT YOU ALL AND, AND PREVIOUS COUNCILS, AND IS REALLY GOOD. 
          SOME OF THE FOCUS 
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IN HERE, I THINK IS, THERE'S A, AND, AND I THINK THAT COUNCILMAN HYVES REFERRED TO IT, THE 25 TO 34-YEAR-OLD. 
          AND I'M IN THE BABY BOOMERS AND WE ARE THE PIG IN THE PYTHON. 
          SO AS WE GO THROUGH, WE ARE DRAGGING OUT ALL OF THE DATA WITH US. 
          SO 
          [D. PH-26-09 2045 Alpharetta Comprehensive Plan – Transmittal Hearing
Consideration of a request to transmit the 2045 Alpharetta Comprehensive Plan draft plan to the Atlanta Regional Commission (ARC) and Department of Community Affairs (DCA) for review.]
THE COUNTRY IS OLDER THAN IT WAS IN 2000. 
          I CHECKED IT OUT AND I JUST SAID, WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE NATION? AND THE NATION IS JUST OLDER. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR STATISTICS, WE KIND OF HAVE TO LOOK THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE BABY BOOMERS CAME ALONG AND THERE'S A SMALLER COHORT AFTER THEM. 
          UM, MY CONCERNS CERTAINLY CAN BE ADDRESSED AS WE LOOK AT EACH APPLICATION COMING DOWN THE ROAD, BUT I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT SAY IT. 
          AND I HOPE YOU ALL DON'T TAKE OFFENSE TO IT. 
          UM, SO MUCH OF WHAT IS IN HERE IS VERY GOOD, AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING IT. 
          COUNCILMAN DORITO. 
          YOU KNOW, I, I JUST FEEL A NEED TO, TO SAY THIS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF DISCUSSION BY MY FELLOW MEMBERS OF COUNCIL EVEN BEFORE TONIGHT LEADING UP TO THIS DISCUSSION. 
          UM, 'CAUSE A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT HAS GONE INTO THIS. 
          A LOT OF INPUT FROM EVERYBODY. 
          THE COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT'S DONE AN AWESOME JOB IN LEADING THIS AND THE PROCESS AND EVERYTHING. 
          UM, I HOPE OUR, THE PEOPLE WE REPRESENT UP HERE ON THIS DAIS THAT PUT HERE IN A POSITION OF RESPONSIBILITY, UNDERSTAND THAT THESE DISCUSSIONS, THESE QUESTIONS ARE VERY INTENTIONAL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING THE RIGHT DECISIONS FOR THE LONG-TERM ECONOMIC VIABILITY OF THE CITY. 
          AND THAT WE MAINTAIN THE LEVEL OF SERVICES FROM, WHETHER BE POLICE, FIRE, PUBLIC WORKS, YOU NAME IT. 
          UM, AND, AND THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT AND BE FINANCIALLY FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE IN THE PROCESS. 
          WE DON'T JUST RUBBER STAMP THINGS. 
          WE HAVE, WE HAVE TURNED DOWN, UH, DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. 
          A LOT OF THINGS WE'RE BRINGING UP TONIGHT. 
          AND REMEMBER, THIS IS A BLUEPRINT. 
          THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS, YOU KNOW, BLACK AND WHITE THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW. 
          IT'S A BLUEPRINT. 
          AND SO, BUT I DO THINK THAT IT CAUSES US TO DISCUSS THE FUTURE OF THE CITY AND HOW WE WANNA SEE THIS DEVELOPED OUT SO THAT ALL OF US UP ON THIS DAY WHEN WE LEAVE THIS COUNCIL, THAT WE'RE GOOD STEWARDS, GOOD STEWARDS OF THE TAX DOLLARS THAT WE KEEP THE TAXES LOW, THAT WE DEVELOP THE CITY OUT OR REDEVELOP THE CITY AS COUNCILMAN HYPE TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT THE PHASE WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW, UM, IS DONE WITH THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY. 
          LONG TERM IN MIND, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE IMPACTS OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND WHAT THAT IMPACT ON OUR TRAFFIC. 
          IT HAS TRANSPORTATION NEEDS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          I THINK IF WE HAD THE ANSWER TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA, EVERYONE UP HERE WOULD BE SAYING, LET'S DO IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, IT'S A DIFFICULT CHALLENGE. 
          AND I ALWAYS SAY TO PEOPLE THAT ASK ME IN THE STREETS OR NEIGHBORS, MAYBE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE OR WATCHING TONIGHT, MY RESPONSE TO THAT IS, WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA? BECAUSE AS WAS POINTED OUT THIS EVENING BY MR. KERN, OUR HOME VALUES HAVE DRAMATICALLY INCREASED OVER THE YEARS. 
          AND WHY IS THAT? IT'S BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THIS, THE PREVIOUS GOVERNING BODIES AND THIS CURRENT GOVERNING BODY AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND ALL THE VARIOUS, YOU KNOW, 550 PROFESSIONALS IN THE CITY WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SUSTAIN CITY AS AN ATTRACTIVE PLACE TO RAISE A FAMILY, TO BUILD OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE'S NOT OVERBUILT TO ATTRACT TOO MUCH TRAFFIC HERE. 
          AND WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN IN A VERY SUCCESSFUL CITY. 
          AS I SAID EARLIER, YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING. 
          BUT THEY'RE COMING HERE FOR GOOD REASON. 
          'CAUSE THIS IS A GREAT CITY TO, TO RAISE YOUR CHILDREN. 
          AND IT STILL IS. 
          AND ONE OF THE STATISTICS, I THINK COUNCILMAN HEISS POINTED THIS OUT OR QUESTION THIS EVEN IN THIS PRESENTATION, I THINK THIRD, 24 TO 35 YEAR OLDS, JOHN, UM, ARE NOT COMING TO THE CITY, OR I FORGET WHAT IT SAYS IN THE REPORT, BUT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE ATTRACT THAT, THAT THAT YOUNGER PROFESSIONAL, UH, NORTH POINT MALL MIGHT BE PART OF THAT ANSWER. 
          AND I HOPE THE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND THAT WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO REDEVELOP THE NORTH POINT MALL CORRIDOR, IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF TRYING TO PROVIDE HOUSING OPTIONS TO THAT POPULATION THAT WE'RE LOSING RIGHT NOW. 
          UH, SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO SAY LIKE, THIS IS A GREAT BLUEPRINT, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU THIS COUNCIL, PROBABLY FUTURE COUNCILS ARE GONNA DO THE RIGHT THING. 
          THIS IS WHAT'S BEEN GREAT ABOUT THIS CITY. 
          WE'VE ALWAYS HAD GOVERNMENT LEADERS WHO HAVE WORKED IN A COLLABORATIVE FASHION TO ACHIEVE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE SITTING IN TODAY AS PROBABLY THE BEST CITY IN THE SOUTH, IF NOT IN THE COUNTRY, FRANKLY, 
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FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IS THAT A YES OR A NO? NO. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          WELL, I HAVEN'T DISCUSSED YET. 
          I'VE BEEN PRETTY SILENT, SO I APPRECIATE ONE OUR STAFF'S EFFORTS TO PULL THIS OFF. 
          WAS IT PERFECT? ABSOLUTELY NOT. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES AND IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO RESPOND TO INQUIRIES, AND WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS NUMEROUS TIMES TOGETHER. 
          SO IT, IT IS DIFFICULT. 
          IT, IT IS A SHAME, BUT THEN AGAIN, IT'S A SHAME THAT MOST OF OUR PEOPLE DON'T EVEN VOTE IN ELECTIONS. 
          THAT BREAKS MY HEART TOO, BECAUSE IT HAS THE SAME KIND OF IMPACT. 
          UM, SO I, I JUST WANNA SAY FOR ONE, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN CLEAR TO ME THAT ONCE I BECAME MAYOR, MY GOAL WAS, AND IF YOU'VE HEARD ME SPEAK PUBLICLY, I WANT ALPHARETTA TO BE THE BEST CITY IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA TO BOTH A BUSINESS AND RAISE A FAMILY. 
          BECAUSE I THINK THAT UNIQUE BALANCE IS WHAT HAS BEEN OUR SPECIAL SAUCE. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT CITIES AROUND US. 
          MILTON'S A GREAT CITY. 
          JOHNS CREEK'S A GREAT CITY, ROSWELL, AND, AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD CITIES. 
          MOST OF THEM ARE SLEEPY BEDROOM COMMUNITIES, AND THAT'S OKAY. 
          THAT'S A NICE CITY. 
          THERE ARE GREAT CITIES. 
          WHAT MAKES ALPHARETTA A DIFFERENCE IS THAT PEOPLE MOVE HERE. 
          NOT JUST BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO RAISE A FAMILY, BUT BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO BUILD BUSINESS TO PEOPLE MOVE HERE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD BECAUSE THEY GOT JOB RELOCATIONS INTO THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA. 
          AND FOUR YEARS LATER, WHEN AT AND T OR FISERV DECIDED TO TRANSFER THEM BACK TO THE HOME OFFICE, THEY SAID NO, THEY LIKED WHAT WE HAD HERE IN ALPHARETTA. 
          AND TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IS SPECIAL. 
          AND THAT'S WHY OUR HOUSING COSTS HAVE GONE UP AND, AND WE'RE HAVING SO MANY OF THESE OTHER ISSUES. 
          BUT THOSE ARE THE CHALLENGES THAT WE ACCEPT AS A COMMUNITY. 
          AND, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE DIVERSE OPINIONS 'CAUSE WE HAVE A VERY DIVERSE COMMUNITY WITH LOTS OF DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND THEY ALL NEED TO BE REPRESENTED. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SEVEN OF US, NOT ONE. 
          I WILL POINT OUT THAT, WHILE IT MAY SEEM DRASTIC TO SOME PEOPLE, BUT AS I LISTENED TO THAT PRESENTATION, THERE WAS ONLY OTHER ONE AREA OF CONCERN THAT WAS ADDRESSED, AND THAT WAS ROYAL OAKS. 
          THE OTHERS, WE'VE ALREADY MOVED ON. 
          WE ALREADY HAD NORTH POINT. 
          WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE PEOPLE IN WINDWARD THAT WANT AMENITIES AND MORE ACTIVITY IN THE WINDWARD CORRIDOR. 
          THE ONLY ONE I'VE IDENTIFIED IS, WELL, WE KNOW NORTH POINT, WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT, BUT ROYAL OAK, THAT, THAT WAS THE ONLY OTHER ONE I SAW. 
          SO I DON'T THINK IF PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE WORRIED THAT WE'RE GONNA JUST MANIPULATE EVERYTHING AND TURN IT INTO JUST ALL THESE LITTLE FIEFDOMS AROUND CITY WITH MIXED USE, NO, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT OFFICE PARK COMMUNITY, WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM A REASON TO BE AN ALPHARETTA. 
          THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS THEY BUILT IN 1985. 
          BACK THEN AT AND T SAID, YOU COME TO WORK FIVE DAYS A WEEK AND THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE GONNA WORK, AND YOU WOULD COMMUTE TO GET THERE BECAUSE THEY WERE WELL PAID AND WELL-TRAINED AND A VERY SUCCESSFUL COMPANY NOWADAYS TO GET PEOPLE INTO THE BUILDINGS, TO BE PRODUCTIVE, TO HAVE THOSE PERSONAL INTERACTIONS THAT DRIVE ALL OF OUR ECONOMY, BECAUSE OUR SMALL BUSINESSES SURVIVE ON THOSE BIG BUSINESSES. 
          AND IF WE LOSE THEM, WE LOSE A LOT OF OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          AND, AND A LOT OF WHAT MAKES ALPHARETTA SPECIAL. 
          SO I DON'T THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BE QUITE AS CONCERNED AS PERHAPS KATIE REEVES RAN INTO ON THE, YOU KNOW, ELECTION KNOCKING DOORS. 
          YOU GET GREAT FEEDBACK AND, AND I'VE DONE THAT MYSELF, AND I DON'T DISMISS THE FEEDBACK YOU GOT, BUT THOSE ARE ALSO ONLY THE PEOPLE YOU GOT. 
          AND, AND SO I THINK AS LONG AS WE HAVE A SAVVY ELECTORATE AND WE HAVE VERY HIGHLY EDUCATED, SIGNIFICANT MEMBERS ON OUR ELECTED COUNCIL THAT ARE GONNA BE VERY DECISIVE IN MAKING SURE THAT WE FOLLOW THAT BLUE BLUEPRINT, 
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IS THIS GONNA BE SET IN STONE? NO. 
          THAT'S WHY WE UPDATED ALL THE TIME. 
          THIS IS A BLUEPRINT AND THERE'S THINGS THAT CAN BE ADDED AND IT DOESN'T TAKE ANOTHER STUDY. 
          IT JUST TAKES ONE PERSON BRINGING A GOOD IDEA, BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND WE DON'T OWN THESE PROPERTIES. 
          EVERYTHING GREAT THAT'S EVER BEEN BUILT IN THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA WASN'T BUILT BY THE CITY. 
          IT WAS BUILT BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR. 
          AVALON WAS BUILT BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR. 
          ALL OF THESE BIG FUN THINGS THAT PEOPLE GO TO. 
          AMERIS AMPHITHEATER WASN'T BUILT BY THE CITY. 
          AND SO WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LOT OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WERE GONNA BE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US, WE HAD A PLAN FOR BROOKSIDE, BUT IT WASN'T US THAT CAME FORWARD WITH THAT PLAN. 
          IT WAS PORTMAN BECAUSE THEY SAW AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE OUR VISION AND BUILD IT FOR US WITHOUT THE TAXPAYERS HAVING TO DO IT. 
          THAT'S ENOUGH. 
          I, OKAY. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE, PLEASE VOTE YES. 
          AND IT DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY. 
          SO THE NEXT ITEM UP IN PUBLIC 
          [E. PH-26-05 Unified Development Code Text Amendments – Pickleball Courts
FIRST READING
Consideration of text amendments to Unified Development Code (UDC) Section 1.4 Definitions and UDC Section 2.7 Miscellaneous Regulations to add definitions and regulations pertaining to pickleball courts.]
HEARING IS PH DASH 26 DASH OH FIVE UNITED OR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE TEXT AMENDMENTS FOR PICKLEBALL, COURTS DIRECTOR COOK. 
          I SEE YOU'RE GONNA GIVE YOUR COWORKER A BREAK ON THIS ONE. 
          WHILE MS. COOK SETS UP, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND READ THE ORDINANCE. 
          MAYOR, MAYOR, AN ORDINANCE BY THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ALFREDA, GEORGIA TO AMEND ARTICLE ONE AND TWO OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE OF THE CITY OF ALFREDA, GEORGIA TO ADD DEFINITIONS AND REGULATIONS PERTAINING TO PICKLEBALL COURTS TO REPEAL CONFLICTING ORDINANCES AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          THIS NEXT ITEM IS CONSIDERATION OF TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE TO AMEND ARTICLE ONE AND TWO RELATED TO PICKLEBALL COURTS. 
          AND, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TEXT AMENDMENTS, UH, TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ADD DEFINITIONS, WHICH I'VE PUT THE DEFINITIONS HERE ON THE SCREEN, UH, AND TO ADD DEFIN DEFINITIONS IN SECTION 2.7, MISCELLANEOUS REGULATION TO ADD REGULATIONS PERTAINING TO CITING REQUIREMENTS AND DESIGN STANDARDS FOR PICKLEBALL COURTS. 
          THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENTS ARE INTENDED TO BALANCE THE DEMAND FOR PICKLEBALL COURTS, NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY CONCERNS AND LEGAL RISK. 
          AND WITH THE GROWING POPULARITY OF PICKLEBALL, THE CITY HAS EXPERIENCED AN UPTICK IN QUESTIONS AND COMPLAINTS OVER NOISE RELATED TO PICKLEBALL COURTS. 
          IN FACT, WE HAD, UH, GLEN ABBEY AND CLAREMONT SUBDIVISIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THEIR TENNIS COURTS HAVE BEEN CONVERTED TO PICKLEBALL COURTS RESULTING IN NUMEROUS NOISE COMPLAINTS TO THE CITY'S POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND CURRENTLY, WHEN WE, WE LOOKED AT OUR UDC, IT ONLY, IT, IT ALLOWS A CLUBHOUSE, A SWIMMING POOL OR COMMUNITY RECREATION FACILITIES SERVING AS SUBDIVISION AS AN ACCESSORY USE, BUT IT DOESN'T DISTINGUISH DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL USES. 
          AND SO SOME OF THE RESEARCH THAT THE RESIDENTS HAD ASKED US TO LOOK INTO, AND THEY ALSO PROVIDED US A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION, UH, WE DID FIND THAT THE, THE NOISE FROM THE BALL THAT'S USED FOR PICKLEBALL IS QUITE LOUDER THAN IF IT'S A TENNIS BALL THAT'S BEING PLAYED. 
          UM, ALSO LOOKED AT THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION ZONING PRACTICE, UH, MANAGING PICKLEBALL NOISE THROUGH ZONING. 
          AND IT PROVIDED A FRAMEWORK, UH, FOR JURISDICTIONS TO ADDRESS EMERGING ISSUES RELATED TO PICKLEBALL. 
          WE ALSO LOOKED AT SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS. 
          WE REALLY, WE DIDN'T FIND ANY PICKLEBALL REGULATIONS. 
          SO, SO WE'RE MOSTLY WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU IS WHAT WE FOUND, WHICH WAS RECOMMENDED, UH, BY THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION. 
          AND THERE WERE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THEY HAD ABOUT MONITORING THE TYPE OF PADDLE THAT'S USED, BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE ABLE TO MONITOR. 
          OF COURSE, IF THIS IS ACCEPTED, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT I'M, UH, PROPOSING, THERE WOULD BE CONDITIONAL USE STANDARDS THAT WOULD BE ATTACHED TO ANY CONDITIONAL USE THAT YOU, UM, APPROVED. 
          AND THEY RECOMMEND THAT THE, THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS ARE THAT ARE RECOMMENDED, INCLUDING DIVINING, UM, TO PICKLEBALL AS A USE, AND THEN ESTABLISHING DISTANCES FOR A THREE-TIERED PERMITTING STRUCTURE WHERE THERE'S PROHIBITED ZONE, A CONDITIONAL ZONE, AND A BY RIGHT ZONE. 
          SO I'LL GO OVER, OVER THAT REAL QUICK. 
          SO HERE, HERE'S THE DEFINITIONS AND THE REASON I HANDED THIS OUT, AND YOU'LL SEE SOMETHING THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED. 
          THAT MEANS THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE LOOKED AT IT, AND THIS WAS AFTER IT WENT INTO THE PACKETS. 
          THERE'S NO SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES. 
          THEY JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CLEANED UP SOME OF THE, UH, THE TEXTS THAT 
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WE PUT TOGETHER. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE PICKLE PICKLEBALL IS DEFINED IN ACTIVITY WHERE PARTICIPANTS UTILIZE A RACKET OR A PADDLE TO STRIKE AND VOLLEY A HOLLOW PLASTIC BALL OVER, UM, OVER A NET WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF A PICKLEBALL COURT. 
          AND THE REASON THIS WAS CHANGED TO WITHIN THE BOUNDS IS WHEN WE PRESENTED THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THERE WAS A UNANIMOUS APPROVAL RECOMMENDED TO CITY COUNCIL, THEY DID WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE PINPOINTED, UM, THAT IT INCLUDES TEMPORARY NETS AND PERMANENT NETS. 
          SO THIS IS THE LANGUAGE THAT, THAT WAS RECOMMENDED, UM, BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE THE, THE DEFINITION OF A PICKLEBALL COURT, WHICH INCLUDES TEMPORARY AND NON TEMPORARY. 
          WHAT WE DID FIND ALSO IS WITH, WITH PICKLEBALL COURTS, SOMETIMES THEY'RE BEING, THEY'RE USING A TENNIS COURT PART OF THE TIME, AND SO THEY'RE JUST MOVING IN NETS THAT AREN'T ATTACHED TO THE PICKLEBALL COURT. 
          SOMETIMES IT'S STRIPED. 
          SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DEFINE THAT TO WHERE IT IS TEMPORARY, UM, AS WELL AS AS PERMANENT. 
          THEN WE HAVE THE MISCELLANEOUS REGULATIONS, AND YOU SEE THAT THE YELLOW HERE IS REMOVING THE DEFINITIONS. 
          IT'S JUST THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY SAID WE SHOULDN'T REPEAT, JUST CLEANING IT UP, PUTTING THE DEFINITIONS IN THE DEFINITION, BUT DOESN'T CHANGE THE DEFINITION. 
          THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE SITING REQUIREMENTS. 
          WE HAVE A PRO PROHIBITED ZONE. 
          UM, IF IT'S ZERO TO 250 FEET FROM A DWELLING, IT WOULD BE PROHIBITED. 
          AND WE HAD ACTUALLY, WHEN WE PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE FOUND THAT SOME PROHIBIT WITHIN 350 FEET. 
          UM, WE, WE PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          WE DID LET THEM KNOW THAT WE FOUND ORDINANCES THAT GO FROM 250 TO 350 FOR THE PROHIBITED, AND THEY DID RECOMMEND, UM, GOING WITH THE, THE 250 FEET. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE TWO, WHICH IS CONSIDERED THE CONDITIONAL ZONE THAT WOULD BE, UM, GREATER THAN 250 FEET TO 800 FEET. 
          THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL BY THE COUNCIL. 
          AND THEN THREE, THE BY RIGHT ZONE WOULD BE GREATER THAN 800 FEET. 
          AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE JUST WANTED US TO RE REITERATE EACH TIME THAT WHEN EVERY PORTION OF THE PLAYING SURFACE IS GREATER THAN THE 800 FEET FROM ANY DWELLING. 
          SO THAT LAYS OUT THE THREE DIFFERENT ZONES WHERE IT'S PROHIBITED, WHERE IT WOULD BE CONDITIONAL USE, AND AS WELL AS WHERE IT'S, IT WOULD BE ALLOWED. 
          WE ALSO PUT DESIGN STANDARDS IN THE CODE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO LOOK AT IF IT WAS, THERE WAS A CONDITIONAL USE THAT WAS APPROVED OR CONSIDERED. 
          WE ALSO ADDED, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, THE CITY ATTORNEY JUST ADDED THE WORD NOISE TO EACH OF A, B, C, WHICH IS UNDER NOISE BARRIERS WHEN REQUIRED. 
          AND THEN FINALLY THE ENFORCEMENT VARIANCES AND THE, THE, UH, VIOLATIONS. 
          SO UNDER ENFORCEMENTS, VIOLATIONS OF QUIET EQUIPMENT REQUIREMENTS, CITY ATTORNEY JUST WANTED TO, TO CLEAN THAT UP AND ADD THAT LANGUAGE. 
          BUT AGAIN, NOTHING, NOTHING CHANGED. 
          IT'S CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY FROM WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS RECOMMENDING. 
          UH, THIS ITEM WAS CONSIDERED AT THE MAY 7TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. 
          THERE WERE SEVERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS WITH FOREIGN FAVOR IN TWO IN OPPOSITION AND IN GENERAL, THEY PROVIDED COMMENTS THAT THEY APPRECIATED THE CITY WAS ADDING THESE REGULATIONS. 
          AND THAT WE HAD, UH, GONE THROUGH THE RESEARCH, UH, DUE TO THE NOISE IMPACTS. 
          WE HAD ONE COMMENTER THAT INDICATED THE HOA SHOULD IT REGULATE PICKLEBALL COURTS, AND ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION AS TO WHETHER THE ORDINANCE WAS RETROACTIVE. 
          AND WE DISCUSSED THIS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          BASICALLY, UH, THE, THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN IS THAT IF IT WAS, IF IT'S BEEN USED, IF YOU HAVE A TENNIS COURT THAT'S BEEN USED EVEN ON A TEMPORARY BASIS PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF THIS ORDINANCE, THEN THAT IS UNDER THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE FOR NEW CONVERSIONS, NEW USE OF, OF A TENNIS, UH, COURT OR OR OTHER COURT THAT WAS CREATED. 
          AND AFTER DISCUSSION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL SUBJECT TO JUST A FEW CHANGES. 
          AND, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS SEVEN TO ZERO. 
          BUT I AM, UH, THAT'S, THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO TRY TO ANSWER THOSE FOR YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN, HES THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, DIRECTOR COOK. 
          I'M GONNA FOLLOW UP SOME THINGS THAT WE DISCUSS THAT'S TO LET PEOPLE KNOW I'M NOT AMBUSHING YOU, UH, E EVERYWHERE IN THIS, UH, DOCUMENT WHERE IT SAYS DWELLING OR RESIDENTIAL, I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT WE SHOULD NOT CONFINE THIS TO DWELLING OR RESIDENTIAL. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE JUST HAD A FULL DISCUSSION ON HOW WE'RE A MIXED USE COMMUNITY. 
          UH, THEORETICALLY 
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IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA OF THE PORTMAN PROJECT, NEXT TO THE OUTDOOR DINING THAT WE JUST APPROVED TONIGHT, THERE COULD BE A PICKLEBALL COURT ON THE PERIMETER OF THE RESIDENTIAL, AND THERE WOULD BE NO RECOURSE, UH, FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S IN NON-RESIDENTIAL UNDER THIS ORDINANCE. 
          UH, IT COULD HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, WITH JUST ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS BETWEEN, UH, COMMERCIAL LIKE OLD MILTON COMMONS AND, AND WHAT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR OUT ON, UH, OR, OR COLONY, FIRST COLONY. 
          SO, UM, I, I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WANT TO CONFINE THIS JUST TO 250 FEET FROM A DWELLING AS OPPOSED TO SOME PERSON WHO MIGHT BE TRYING TO ENJOY DINNER ON AN OUTDOOR PATIO AT A RESTAURANT OR SOMEBODY WORKING IN AN AUDIENCE OR AN OFFICE ON A, ON A SATURDAY TRYING TO GET SOME WORK DONE. 
          THOUGHTS. 
          YEAH, SO MOST OF THE, THE RESEARCH THAT WE WENT THROUGH, AND WE ALSO, WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, LISTENED TO A COUPLE OF SEMINARS ABOUT THE NOISE AND THE IMPACTS, BUT NONE OF THAT THAT WE RESEARCHED, UM, ADDRESSED THE IMPACTS ON OFFICE. 
          SO AS I MENTIONED TO YOU TODAY, I THINK WE NEED SOME TIME TO RESEARCH THAT. 
          AND WE CAN ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, IF, IF ONCE WE HAVE THE RESEARCH, WE CAN COME BACK AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES JUST LIKE THE NEXT ITEM BEFORE YOU IS GONNA BE AN UPDATE TO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE, THERE MAY BE CHANGES THAT WE BRING FORWARD OVER TIME. 
          WELL, I, I WOULDN'T GET TOO LIMITED BY OFFICE AS OPPOSED TO AN OCCUPIED STRUCTURE. 
          AGAIN, I MEAN, IF, IF, IF SOMEBODY INVESTS HEAVILY IN HAVING OUTDOOR DINING WITH A PATIO AND RIGHT NEXT DOOR IN A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT IS SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD THEIR, UH, PICKLEBALL COURT AND THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE OTHER THAN THE 250 FEET FROM THE OCCUPIED STRUCTURE, I WANT THOSE FOLKS TO HAVE RECOURSE UNDER OUR ORDINANCE TO SAY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE KILLING ME HERE. 
          YEAH, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A BUSINESS. 
          AND, AND WE'LL STUDY THOSE IMPACTS. 
          I'M JUST HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO STUDY WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE OR, OR ANY ISSUES. 
          AND ALSO DISCUSS WITH OUR CITY, CITY ATTORNEY, WE'VE SPENT, UM, MOST OF THE TIME, LIKE I STATED, ON LOOKING AT THE IMPACTS TO RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF ADDING THAT, WHAT IT COULD IMPACT WITHIN THE CITY, BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY DO THAT RESEARCH. 
          UM, AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT. 
          MY, MY VANTAGE POINT IS I PERSONALLY THINK, YOU KNOW, HOA GOVERNANCE IS CLOSEST TO THE PEOPLE, UH, THAT THERE'S RECOURSE WITHIN AN HOA, IT MAY NOT ALWAYS WORK OUT, BUT IT'S FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE RECOURSE AGAINST THE PICKLEBALL COURT OWNERS, UH, WHICH MAY BE OUTSIDE THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, WHICH THEN JUST BEGS THE QUESTION, WHY DO WE WANT TO LIMIT IT TO RESIDENTIAL? SO, UNDERSTOOD. 
          I'M LOOKING TO PROVIDE RELIEF TO PEOPLE WHO CAN'T GET IT ELSEWHERE THROUGH THIS ORDINANCE. 
          SO, THANK ANY QUESTIONS. 
          COUNCILMAN DORITO? MR. COOKIN, I DID SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THIS SO I'M NOT AMBUSHING YOU AS WELL, . 
          UM, BUT CAN, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE DISCUSSION WE HAD REGARDING, UM, UH, PICKLEBALL COURTS IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE MAYBE TEMPORARY, UM, THAT EVENTUALLY AFTER THIS, IF THIS GETS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL, THESE ORDINANCE PROVISIONS, UM, HOW THAT WOULD APPLY TO THOSE STRUCTURES THAT MIGHT BECOME PERMANENT AFTER THE ORDINANCE IS PASSED? I MEAN, IS THERE, I'LL LET YOU EXPLAIN. 
          YEAH, YOU TOLD ME. 
          SO, SO IT, IT WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED THE WAY THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN. 
          IF, IF A HOA OR NON HOA IS CURRENTLY USING A COURT FOR PICKLEBALL, EVEN IF IT'S JUST THEY BRING OUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE NETS AND THEN THEY PUT 'EM BACK AND THEN GO BACK TO TENNIS. 
          IF THEY HAVE BEEN USING IT PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION, THEN WE WOULD CONSIDER, CONSIDER THEM GRANDFATHERED. 
          IF THEY ADDED AND BUILT ANOTHER COURT, THEN THAT'S AN EXPANSION OF BEING IN, IN THE GRANDFATHERED CATEGORY, WHICH WOULD THEN HAVE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE. 
          SO ANYTHING EXTENSION OF AN EXISTING RECREATIONAL YES. 
          FACILITY, YES. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILWOMAN RAVES, IS THAT, UM, IS THAT A DETERMINATION BY, BY US OR IS THAT LEGALLY, WOULD WE BE, OR DOES, DOES, DOES THE LAW PUT US SORT OF IN THAT POSITION? IT, IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF BOTH. 
          SO THE STANDARD THAT KATHY WAS CITING IN ANSWERING COUNCILMAN DORITA QUESTION GOES DIRECTLY TO OUR NONCONFORMITY SECTION IN THE UDC WHERE WE SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT NONCONFORMITIES NONCONFORMING USES, HONORING THOSE, BUT ALSO PROHIBITED PROHIBITING THE EXPANSION. 
          BUT 
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A GRANDFATHERED USE IS SOMETHING ACTUALLY USED KIND OF AS AN AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE BY SOMEONE WHEN A GOVERNMENT SEEKS TO ENFORCE REGULATIONS AGAINST THEM. 
          IF WE WERE TO MAKE A GRANDFATHERING DETERMINATION, OBVIOUSLY KATHY IS DOING THAT WORK ON THE FRONT END, NOT NECESSARILY JUST BECAUSE IT'S AN AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE THAT'S RAISED, THAT'S LEGAL CONTEXT USUALLY WHEN IT GETS RAISED. 
          BUT IT WOULD BE AN INDEPENDENT FACT SPECIFIC ANALYSIS FOR EVERY PROPERTY THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT REGULATING, ENFORCING AGAINST. 
          AND, AND ULTIMATELY BEFORE ANY ENFORCEMENT ACTION IS TAKEN, I KNOW KATHY'S LOOKING AT IT WITH HER STAFF, IF IT ROSE TO THE LEVEL OF GETTING TO COURT, THEN IT WOULD BE THE AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING THIS UP AND SPENDING TIME ON THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN, I'VE HEARD A LOT FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS, I'M SURE OTHERS HAVE TOO, AND I THINK THEY, THEY ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO ME LAST SUMMER, SO IT, IT'S TAKEN A WHILE. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR COOK? THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MS. OR HUSKY, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? WE DO. 
          THEY ARE BOTH IN OPPOSITION. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, MR. SAHA, IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. 
          EVERYONE MY NAME IS. 
          SURE. 
          THANKS MIKE. 
          MY NAME'S J SAHA. 
          I LIVE AT 1 2 3 0 5 CLAREMONT AVENUE IN ALFREDA, GEORGIA. 
          THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE. 
          COUNCIL. 
          I KNOW IT'S NOT AN EASY TOPIC TO NAVIGATE AND IT'S SUCH A SMALL THING COMPARED TO THE 2045 BLUEPRINT JUST REVIEWED, SO I APOLOGIZE, BUT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TOPIC. 
          UM, I'M HERE 'CAUSE I AM A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CLAREMONT HOA, WHICH WAS PRESENTING HERE, UM, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO AT CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND I WAS APPOINTED ALONG WITH THREE OTHER FOLKS TO LOOK INTO COURT USAGE AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. 
          MY REQUEST IS TO ASK THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER EXCLUDING EXISTING HOAS FROM THE AUDIENCE'S SCOPE. 
          HOA RESIDENTS ALREADY HAVE COURSE THEIR OWN HA PROCESSES AND CAN RESOLVE CONCERNS INTERNALLY OR SHOULD BE ABLE TO, AND THAT INCLUDES REPLACING OA LEADERSHIP IF NEEDED. 
          AND I DON'T THINK IN ALL HOAS ARE THE SAME. 
          I THINK GLEN ABBEY HAS FOUR COURTS RUNNING CONSTANTLY. 
          UM, AND I DON'T THINK THEIR HOA LISTENED TO THEM FROM, I'VE SPOKE TO MATT AND, UM, CANDY, THEY, I FEEL FOR THEM 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY WERE TREATED WELL. 
          I WOULD ARGUE THAT OTHER HOAS SUCH AS OURS, WE ONLY DO 10 HOURS A MONTH ON AL COURT. 
          UM, WE SURVEYED RESIDENTS, UM, AFTER WE DID A TRIAL, WE DID A 10 MONTH TRIAL. 
          UM, WE PUT IN RULE, I'M SORRY, SEVEN MONTH TRIAL. 
          WE PUT IN RULES SUCH AS RESTRICTING HOURS. 
          WE USE QUIET FALLS, UM, SO THAT WE COULD BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. 
          I PLAY PICKLEBALL A LOT. 
          I'M THE CAT TO MY PICKLEBALL TEAM, BUT I PLAY AT NORTH PARK BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE A RULE THAT SAYS WE DON'T ALLOW ORGANIZED PLAY. 
          SO ALL MY PRACTICES AND MATCHES ARE AT NORTH PARK. 
          SO I JUST DON'T THINK THAT ALL HOAS ARE THE SAME. 
          UM, BACK TO THE POINT TO WHERE COUNCILMAN HYPES MENTIONED, I THINK THIS ORDINANCE MAKES SENSE TO WHERE INDIVIDUALS HAVE NO RECOURSE, SUCH AS BUSINESSES AND HOMES OUTSIDE AN HOA, UM, TO MODIFY IT TO THE OCCUPIED STRUCTURES. 
          'CAUSE I THINK THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE. 
          THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN THOUGH, COULD EFFECTIVELY HALT PICKLEBALL GROWTH IN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          MOST COMMUNITIES HERE ARE OVER 10 YEARS OLD AND CANNOT REALISTICALLY RELOCATE COURTS. 
          AND I THINK A OA SHOULD BE ABLE TO DECIDE HOW TO USE AMENITIES THAT THE RESIDENTS ALREADY PAY FOR. 
          UM, WHILE THE CITY DOES OFFER PUBLIC PLACES TO PLAY, DEMAND ALREADY EXCEEDS CAPACITY ON A TYPICAL TUESDAY NIGHT AT NORTH PARK. 
          PLEASE COME MEET ME THERE. 
          ALL 12 COURTS ARE FULL, 48 PLAYERS AND AT LEAST 48 PADDLES WAITING TO PLAY. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY VIEWPOINT. 
          THANKS SIR. 
          WERE THERE ANY OTHERS? YES, AND I APOLOGIZE, THIS ONE IS IN FAVOR. 
          I MISREAD AND THOUGHT THEY WERE BOTH IN OPPOSITION. 
          UM, I DON'T WANNA MISPRONOUNCE YOUR NAME. 
          , IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MY NAME'S NAIM. 
          MY NAME'S NAIM RE VOUR AND I LIVE IN 1 2 3 3 0 CLAREMONT AVENUE. 
          UM, SO I WANT TO FIRST THANK THE CITY STAFF PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL, UH, FOR THE SIGNIFICANT EFFORT, UM, THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS ORDINANCE. 
          UM, UM, THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, 
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UM, CLEARLY RECOGNIZE THAT OUTDOOR PICKUP NOISE IS FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT THAN TENNIS COURT, UM, AND CAN AFFECT A NEARBY HOMES. 
          SO I'M, UH, UH, ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS OF GIS SAHA WHO TALKED RIGHT NOW ABOUT THE HOAS. 
          AND THEY ARE DIFFERENT. 
          UH, AND I WOULD ARGUE NOW THEY ARE NOT DIFFERENT. 
          IT'S BEEN ONE YEAR FOR ME THAT'S SENDING EMAIL TO OUR HA, BUT NOBODY LISTENED TO ME. 
          UM, WE LEAVE 150 FEET, UH, FROM THE TENNIS COURTS THAT ARE BEING USED FOR PICKLEBALL RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, DURING THE PREVIOUS, UM, HEARING, UM, SEVERAL RESIDENTS, INCLUDING MYSELF, UH, WE EXPLAINED HOW THE REPETITIVE IMPULSIVE NOISE HAS AFFECTED OUR DAILY LIFE. 
          UM, HOWEVER, UM, I KNOW THAT, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO DISCUSSED, UM, THIS CONCERN, UM, AND, UM, UH, DISCUSSED THAT EFFORT THAT HAS, UM, UM, MANY APPROPRIATE PART LOCATION FOR PICKLEBALL. 
          UM, HOWEVER, UNDER CURRENT NEW ORDINANCE, UM, EXISTING COURTS, UH, CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR PICKLEBALL MAY NOT BE SUBJECT TO THE PROPOSED SETBACK AND REGULATIONS. 
          UM, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT RETRACTIVE REGULATION CAN BE DIFFICULT, AND I'M NOT ASKING THE CITY TO BAN PICKLEBALL. 
          UM, I'M JUST SIMPLY ASKING THE NEARBY RESIDENTS NOT BE LEFT WITHOUT ANY PROTECTIONS, UM, OR MITIGATION OPTIONS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, UM, RECOGNIZE THAT NEW COURTS SHOULD BE LOCATED WITHIN 250 FEET, UM, FROM THE HOMES. 
          AND AT MINIMUM, I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU, UM, THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER REQUIRING A PROFESSIONAL ACOUSTIC STUDY, UM, FOR EXISTING OR FLEX COURT, UM, UM, CONVERSION LOCATED AND CLOSE TO HOME. 
          UM, SO IF EXISTING COURTS ARE GOING TO FUNCTION AS ONGOING PICKUP OF FACILITIES, THEN NEARBY RESIDENTS DESERVE THE SAME LEVEL OF REVIEW AND, UH, PROTECTION, UM, AND THAT THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES FOR NEW COURT. 
          UM, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THAT ALL THE CARDS WE HAVE? YES, SIR. 
          THOSE ARE ALL THE CARDS WE HAVE. 
          HOWEVER, IF THERE IS ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND HAS YOUR OPPORTUNITY. 
          MY NAME IS MATT CHRISTENSEN AND I LIVE IN GLEN ABBEY AT FIVE 50 ELEY PLACE. 
          AND MY FAMILY AND I LIVE LESS THAN 150 FEET FROM THOSE PICKLE BALL COURTS IN GLEN ABBEY. 
          FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, THE SOUND HAS BEEN A CONSTANT DISTURBANCE TO OUR DAILY LIVES. 
          THIS ISN'T SIMPLY ABOUT DECIBEL LEVELS, IT'S THE FREQUENCY, THE SHARP, REPETITIVE, HIGH-PITCHED IMPACT THAT CUTS THROUGH WALLS, WINDOWS, AND INDIE ATTEMPT. 
          AT NORMAL LIFE, NO ALPHARETTA RESIDENT SHOULD BE EXPECTED TO ENDURE THAT KIND OF INTRUSION IN THEIR OWN HOME. 
          NOW, I WANNA BE CLEAR, I'M NOT AN ANTI PICKLEBALL PERSON. 
          ON THE CONTRARY, I LOVE THE SPORT I PLAY. 
          HOWEVER, WE NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE ABOUT WHERE THE COURTS ARE LOCATED. 
          I HOPE WE ALL AGREE THAT ALTHOUGH PICKLEBALL IS FUN, FUN IS NOT ADEQUATE RATIONALE TO DISTURB THE PEACE OF INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR PROPERTIES HERE IN ALPHARETTA. 
          IN ADDITION, IT'S NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA TO PROTECT A TRENDY, FUN RECREATION ACTIVITY AT THE, UH, DETRIMENT OF NORMAL LIVING CONDITIONS. 
          I FULLY SUPPORT THE PROPOSED SETBACKS BECAUSE THE RESEARCH IS CLEAR. 
          DISTANCE IS THE ONLY RELIABLE WAY TO REDUCE THIS TYPE OF NOISE DISTURBANCE. 
          OUR OWN EXPERIENCE HAS SHOWN THAT RELYING ON AN HOA OR SIMILAR BODY TO DO THE RIGHT THING IS NOT ENOUGH. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, OUR, OUR HOA IGNORED OUR CONCERNS, OUR DISMISSED OUR FEEDBACK AND ULTIMATELY FAILED TO PROTECT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          THESE PROPOSED ZONING LAWS WILL HELP PROTECT CITIZENS FROM UNNECESSARY SOUND DISTURBANCES WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL LOCATIONS. 
          ALFREDA NEEDS ZONING LAWS THAT REFLECT MODERN RECREATIONAL TRENDS. 
          PICKLEBALL IS GROWING RAPIDLY AND WITHOUT UPDATED RULES. 
          FAMILIES LIKE MINE ARE LEFT UNPROTECTED. 
          THESE CHANGES AREN'T ABOUT LIMITING RECREATION. 
          THEY'RE ABOUT ENSURING THAT ONE GROUP'S ENJOYMENT DOES NOT COME AT THE EXPENSE OF ANOTHER'S FAMILY'S PEACE, HEALTH, AND HOME ENVIRONMENT. 
          THERE'S ALSO RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CITY TO PROTECT ITSELF AS PICKLEBALL CONTINUES TO EXPAND. 
          SO WILL CONFLICTS LIKE OURS WITHOUT CLEAR PROACTIVE ZONING, THE CITY RISKS, INCREASED PUSHBACK, AND EVEN POTENTIAL LEGAL CHALLENGES FROM RESIDENTS WHO FEEL UNPROTECTED. 
          I, I URGE YOU TO TAKE THIS RESPONSIBILITY SERIOUSLY TO SUPPORT THE ZONING CHANGE, NOT JUST FOR MY FAMILY, BUT FOR EVERY ALFREDA FAMILY WHO 
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DESERVES THE BASIC DIGNITY OF ENJOYING THEIR HOME AND PROPERTY. 
          WITHOUT THE CONSTANT DISRUPTION OF NOISE, NO ONE ELSE SHOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH WHAT WE'VE BEEN LIVING THROUGH FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS. 
          ADMITTEDLY, IT IS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTING THAT ALTHOUGH WE AGREE THAT THE PICKLEBALL SOUND IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA IS A NUISANCE, THAT SINCE WE CAN'T GRANDFATHER OR SINCE IT IS GRANDFATHERED IN, WE CANNOT HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT SEPARATELY. 
          HOWEVER, THIS PROPOSAL FOR ME IS A WIN. 
          I APPLAUD KATHY, MICHAEL, AND THE STAFF, UH, FOR THE RESEARCH THAT THEY DID AND THE TIME THAT THEY TOOK TO COME TO THIS CONCLUSION THAT THESE ZONING PARAMETERS ARE AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO CONTROL THE SOUND NUISANCE IN THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS, SIR. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME'S CAMMI CHRISTENSEN. 
          I LIVE AT FIVE 50 EBLEY PLACE. 
          UM, MY HUSBAND PREVIOUSLY SPOKE. 
          UM, I ALSO WANT TO THANK STAFF KATHY COOK, MICHAEL WOODMAN, AND THEIR TEAM FOR THEIR RESEARCH AND ENGAGEMENT. 
          MY HOPE IS THAT THIS AMENDMENT WHEN PASSED, WILL BECOME A MODEL FOR ACROSS THE STATE AND NATIONWIDE, BECAUSE THIS IS A DEVELOPING AND EMERGING ISSUE. 
          SOME OF THIS RESEARCH HAS COME OUT WITHIN THE LAST FIVE MONTHS, AND IT'S VERY NEW. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THE, UM, PROFESSIONALISM, UM, AND ESPECIALLY THAT THE CURRENT ORDINANCE IS GROUNDED IN, UM, THE DISTANCE SETBACK AS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO MITIGATE SOUND. 
          UM, WE HAVE, UM, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS TRIED TO UNDERTAKE PADDLE RESTRICTIONS AND BALL RESTRICTIONS AND HOURS. 
          BUT THE FACT IS THAT WHEN YOU LIVED 150 FEET FROM THE COURTS, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR EVERY STRIKE INSIDE YOUR HOME REGARDLESS. 
          AND THAT IS WHAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED. 
          SO I COME TONIGHT TO, UM, ADVOCATE THAT IF THE CITY DOES NOT ADOPT AN ORDINANCE REGARDING PICKLEBALL, IT LEAVES HAND, UM, DECISION IN THE HANDS OF INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY BE MOTIVATED BY THE LOVE OF THEIR SPORT. 
          UM, AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID, NOT ALL HOAS ARE CREATED EQUALLY, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ZONING ORDINANCES AT THE CITY LEVEL, BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE STANDARD THAT WE, WE BELIEVE IN, AT THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA, THAT WILL BE STANDARD FOR ALL, UM, RESIDENTS AND DEVELOPMENTS. 
          UM, IF THE ORDINANCE IS NOT DEVELOPED, NOT, UM, APPROVED, THEN THAT LEAVES RESIDENTS. 
          UM, SIMILAR TO RESEARCH THAT I BROUGHT WITH ME TONIGHT. 
          UM, THIS IS A RESEARCH STUDY THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN DECEMBER, 2025 OF, UM, RESIDENTS IN 245, UM, COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION. 
          AND IT SAYS, HOW OFTEN DOES THE NOISE AFFECT YOUR ABILITY TO, UM, BE MINDFUL, REST, BE CALM, OR THINK MORE THAN HALF OF RESIDENTS SAID IT CONSTANTLY AFFECTED THAT SIMILARLY, ENJOYING THE OUTDOORS OR INDOORS OF THEIR HOME. 
          60% RESPONDED THAT IT DID TALK, SOCIALIZE, DO ACTIVITIES IN YOUR HOME, 43% CONCENTRATE OR WORK PRODUCTIVELY, 40% SLEEP UNDISTURBED CONSTANTLY 26%. 
          AND THESE ARE THE SAME IMPACTS THAT I'VE EXPERIENCED IN MY HOME WHERE I'M NOT ABLE TO REST, EAT, UM, RELAX, OR ENJOY ANY OF MY DAILY ACTIVITIES. 
          UM, MY ONE, ONE POINT OF, UM, QUESTION REGARDING THE ORDINANCE THAT I'VE, I'VE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH A FEW STAFF MEMBERS AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBERS REGARDING THE, UM, EXPANSION FROM A TEMPORARY COURT TO A PERMANENT COURT. 
          MOST COURTS BEGIN AS A TEMPORARY STRIPED COURT WITH ROLLABLE NETS. 
          PEOPLE ARE EXPERIMENTING WITH THE ACTIVITY. 
          THEY, THEY, YOU KNOW, ADD THAT TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IN THAT MANNER. 
          AND IF IT IS POPULAR LATER, GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF BUILDING A PERMANENT COURT. 
          I WOULD CONSIDER THAT AN EXPANSION GOING FROM TWO TO FOUR TEMPORARY COURTS THAT ARE USED AT TIMES TO PERMANENT COURTS WHERE NO OTHER ACTIVITY CAN TAKE PLACE IN THE SAME SPACE. 
          I WOULD CONSIDER THAT AN EXPANSION. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT AN EXPANSION HAS TO NECESSARILY BE PHYSICAL, PHYSICAL SPACE EXPANSION. 
          I WOULD SAY EXPANSION OF USE, INTENSIFICATION OF USE WOULD, TO ME SEEMS LIKE AN EXPANSION AND WOULD BE, UM, UNDERNEATH THAT, THAT PHRASE. 
          SO THAT'S MY, MY MAIN CONCERN IS THAT THAT IS THE LIFECYCLE THAT PICKLEBALL COURTS GO THROUGH, UNLESS WE HAVE SOME KIND OF OPEN SPACE IN ALPHARETTA, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE DO. 
          MOST OF IT'S BEING CONVERTED FROM TENNIS OR OTHER USE TO PICKLEBALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD EVENING, Y'ALL. 
          MY NAME IS BETH SHELLHOUSE. 
          UM, I LIVE AT 3 4 5 DALE COURT. 
          I JUST WANTED TO THANK STAFF FOR YOUR TIME, UM, CONSIDERING THIS, IT'S AN ISSUE THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART BECAUSE IT AFFECTS MY FAMILY ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          IN THE LAST WEEK IN OUR OWN HOME AT 10:59 PM ME AND MY BABY WERE AWOKEN IN OUR BEDS BY THIS PICKLEBALL NOISE. 
          WE DO HAVE AN HOAI DID ALERT THEM. 
          I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO, AND I'M, IT'S NOT ON YOU TO, TO, TO REGULATE THAT, BUT I'M PLEADING FOR YOU FOR YOUR FUTURE RESIDENTS IN SITUATIONS TO NOT HAVE THAT HAPPEN TO ANYBODY ELSE. 
          YOU WOULDN'T WANT IT FOR YOUR FAMILY. 
          AND PLEASE HAVE THE CONSIDERATION FOR OTHERS. 
          I 
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KNOW YOU, THIS ISN'T CONSIDERING GRANDFATHER. 
          I MEAN, MY SITUATION WON'T CHANGE WITH THIS, BUT I AM ADVOCATING FOR THOSE WHO WILL BE IN THIS SITUATION IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE IT IS POPULAR. 
          I DO LIKE PICKLEBALL MYSELF. 
          I IMAGINE SOME OF Y'ALL DO TOO. 
          UM, AND AS, UM, COUNCILMAN HYPE SAID, YOU, YOU'RE CONSIDERING WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE IF YOU'RE HAVING DINNER AND IT'S DISTURBING YOUR DINNER IF YOU'RE OUT TO EAT. 
          UM, BUT CURRENTLY MY FAMILY IS DISTURBED IN OUR DINNER INSIDE OUR HOME BY PICKLEBALL, AND IT'S NOT VERY FUN, AND I DON'T WISH THAT ON ANYONE ELSE. 
          UM, MAYOR, YOU REFERRED TO ALPHARETTA BEING A GREAT PLACE TO RAISE A FAMILY. 
          UM, BUT THIS CIRCUMSTANCE MAKES IT SO IT'S NOT THAT GREAT FOR ME TO RAISE MY FAMILY WHERE I LIVE IN MY HOME. 
          SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU CONSIDER, UM, WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE FOR OTHERS AND STOP THIS FROM GROWING IN THE FUTURE. 
          JUST PROTECT EVERYBODY SO THAT THEY CAN ENJOY THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT THEY MOVE TO ALPHA FOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WAS THAT EVERYONE? ALL RIGHT. 
          DO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNSEL? YES, SIR. 
          MR. MAYOR, MAKE A MOTION THIS EVENING TO APPROVE PH DASH 26 DASH ZERO FIVE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE TEXT AMENDMENT PICKLEBALL COURTS AS PRESENTED THIS EVENING TO US. 
          SECOND, HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TIM MERKEL, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DORITO. 
          ANY DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN? HES, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, THIS, UH, ORDINANCE IS GOING DEFINITELY IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          UM, IT IS A FIRST READING. 
          UH, WE WILL HAVE A SECOND READING AT A EXTRA FUTURE MEETING. 
          UH, BUT FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, AS IT'S WRITTEN TONIGHT, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE TESTIMONIALS WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PODIUM, THAT DOES NOT GO FAR ENOUGH. 
          UH, IT NEEDS TO PROTECT NOT JUST RESIDENTS, BUT IT NEEDS TO PROTECT BUSINESS OWNERS. 
          WE HAVE 30 FOOT SIDE AND REAR SETBACKS FOR RESIDENTIAL. 
          SO YOU'RE 30 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF A PICKLEBALL COURT THAT'S PUT ON THE EDGE OF SUBDIVISION IS ON THE PROPERTY LINE. 
          SO ANYTHING THAT'S WITHIN THE NEXT 220 FEET IS WITHIN THAT 250 FEET ZONE. 
          IF YOU FOLLOW MY MATH, AND IF IT HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF OUR RESTAURANTS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED AND HAVE OUTDOOR PATIO, DUNNING, IF IT HAPPENS TO BE A RETAILER WHO LIKES TO HAVE THEIR DOORS OPEN AND INVITE THE PUBLIC IN, IF IT HAPPENS TO BE SOMEBODY WORKING IN A ONE STORY OFFICE BUILDING AND THEY'RE TRYING TO PREPARE A CASE FOR TRIAL OR TRYING TO GET A, GET A, A TAX AUDIT DONE ON A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY, AND THEY'RE HEARING THE THINGS THAT THESE FOLKS WERE TELLING US ABOUT, THEY DESERVE RECOURSE AND PROTECTION AS WELL. 
          SO, UH, I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT AS WRITTEN TONIGHT, BUT CERTAINLY WILL IF IT PASSES, REEVALUATE MY VOTE IN LIGHT OF ANY NEW INFORMATION THAT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BRINGS FORWARD, UH, BEFORE THE NEXT VOTE. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN RUDO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT CAME UP TO TO SPEAK, UM, THEIR HEART THIS EVENING. 
          UM, AS MENTIONED BY ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS, THE CLAREMONT, UH, GENTLEMAN. 
          FORGOT YOUR NAME, I'M SORRY. 
          UM, THIS IS A TOUGH, THIS IS A, THIS IS A TOUGH ISSUE. 
          UH, AND, AND I'M GLAD IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION BY OUR RESIDENTS. 
          UM, AND, UH, I'VE DONE A LOT OF, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH IN THIS, A LOT OF RESEARCHERS PROVIDED BY THE COMMUNITY TO US, WHICH IS VERY HELPFUL. 
          UH, I KNOW COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAS WORKED REALLY HARD, AS MS. COOK SAID FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW, SINCE THIS ISSUE WAS RAISED. 
          UM, AND, UH, MY EYES ARE WIDE OPEN AS TO THIS ISSUE, NOT ONLY IN ALPHARETTA, BUT AROUND THE COUNTRY. 
          I NEVER THOUGHT A SPORT LIKE PICKLEBALL WOULD CREATE SUCH A, A CONCERN AS FAR AS THE IMPACT ON THE HEALTH AND SANCTITY OF PEOPLE'S HOMES THAT THEY SHOULD DEFINITELY HAVE, PARTICULARLY IN ALPHARETTA, UM, TO LIVE A QUIET LIFE AND, AND NOT BE DISTURBED TO, UM, MIDNIGHT HOURS EVERY DAY AND ON WEEKENDS. 
          AND, UM, CONSTANT NOISES, UM, AS POINTED OUT THE, THE PULSATING NOISE THAT'S VERY AGITATING AND FRANKLY NOT GOOD FOR YOUR HEALTH AND, AND MENTAL STABILITY. 
          FROM EVERYTHING I'VE READ, UM, I I, I'M SUPPORTING THIS TONIGHT BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 
          UH, ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO CAME UP, UM, UH, I THINK IT WAS MICHELLE, UM, IF I GOT YOUR NAME RIGHT, UM, SPOKE ABOUT HER, HER INFANT, AND I THINK, UH, SHE SPOKE AT A PAST MEETING ABOUT THAT, THAT LAID HEAVILY ON MY MIND WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS ISSUE, WHEN OUR RESIDENTS CAME FORWARD TO EXPRESS 
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CONCERNS AND, AND PARTICULARLY GLEN ABBEY. 
          UM, AND THAT, UM, PUTTING MYSELF IN, IN THOSE RESIDENT SHOES, UM, IF I HAD AN INFANT, EVEN A YOUNG CHILD OR, OR, OR AN ELDERLY PERSON OR, OR EVEN A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT TO COME HOME AND DO THEIR HOMEWORK, UH, WITH SOME PEACE AND QUIET WITH THEIR FAMILY AND RELAX AND ENJOY FAMILY TIME AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, EXPRESS YOUR FAITH ON, ON A WEEKEND, UM, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, UM, THIS DISTURBS THAT. 
          AND IT DOES IMPACT YOU MENTALLY OVER A PERIOD OF TIME FROM ALL STUDIES AROUND THE COUNTRY IF YOU LOOK AT IT. 
          AND IF THIS HELPS ONE PERSON NOT HAVE THIS IMPACT, THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 
          UM, BY ALL MEANS, IF THIS CAN BE IMPROVED OVER TIME, AS, AS COUNCILMAN HES TALKED ABOUT, I'M ALL, I'M ALL FOR THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE I DO THINK, UM, WE CAN STRENGTHEN THIS ORDINANCE, MAYBE EVEN BY THE SECOND READING. 
          WE CAN STRAIGHTEN IT, STRAIGHTEN IT. 
          UM, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT LOVE THE SPORT OF PICKLE BALL. 
          THERE MIGHT EVEN BE MORE PEOPLE IN FAVOR OF US NOT DOING THIS, THAT ARE THOSE THAT ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, WANTING US TO DO THIS. 
          AND I HOPE THIS IS NOT ONLY A MODEL FOR THE COUNTRY, BUT I HOPE THIS IS A MODEL FOR OTHER HOAS IN THE CITY OF ALFREDA. 
          I HOPE EVEN THE GLEN ABBEY, HOA IS IMPACTED BY THIS DECISION OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO SEND THE RIGHT MESSAGE OF LEADERSHIP, THAT WE WANT TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS PEACEFUL ENJOYMENT OF THEIR HOMES WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THEIR HOMES, AND RAISE THEIR CHILDREN IN A PEACEFUL, UH, ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY WANT TO RAISE THEM IN AND, AND, AND LEAVE PICKLEBALL TO AREAS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO IMPACT THEM. 
          UM, THEIR, THEIR PEACE AND QUIET AS WELL AS THEIR MENTAL, UM, IMPACT ON THEIR, THEIR MENTAL STATE. 
          BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU LOSE SLEEP AND YOU'RE UP ALL NIGHT, YOU DON'T SLEEP, RIGHT? IT'S NOT GOOD FOR YOU. 
          SO, UH, I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT THING, RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          UM, MS. COOK, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU AND YOUR STAFF PUT INTO THIS. 
          THANK YOU TO THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE HELPED DIRECT US ON THIS, BECAUSE REALLY, UM, THIS CHANGE IS BEING DONE BY THE EFFORTS OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S WHAT GOVERNMENT'S ALL ABOUT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN DRISCOLL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, I JUST, I REALLY, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD OTHER THAN THE WAY THAT THE RESIDENTS BROUGHT IT FORWARD, THE WAY THAT IT WAS PRESENTED, THE CONCERNS. 
          I I JUST APPLAUD YOU AS I KNOW WHEN SOMETHING'S REALLY BOTHERING YOU, AND IT'S REALLY EASY TO GET POINTED RATHER THAN STAYING OBJECTIVE TO WHAT'S THE BEST FOR THE CITY. 
          SO JUST THANK YOU. 
          OUR INBOX FILLS UP, UM, AND WHEN IT FILLS UP WITH INFORMATION THAT IS TR TRULY FOR THE BETTERMENT OF EVERYBODY, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, UH, ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT. 
          SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE VOTE YES. 
          AND IT DOES PASS FIVE ONE. 
          SO THE NEXT ITEM ON 
          [F. PH-26-07 Unified Development Code Text Amendments – Short-term Rentals
FIRST READING
Consideration of text amendments to the Unified Development Code (UDC) and Code of Ordinances related to short-term rentals. Amend UDC Article II and Code of Ordinances Article XV to add clarification regarding the use of a single-family dwelling unit and accessory dwelling unit as a short-term rental and amend UDC Article II and Appendix A: Alpharetta Downtown Code to add certain zoning districts permitting short-term rentals as a permitted use and conditional use and update the List of Permissible and Conditional Uses tables.]
PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA IS THE FIRST READING FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF TEXT AMENDMENTS TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 1.4 DEFINITIONS IN UDC SECTION 2.7 MISCELLANEOUS REGULATION. 
          NOW THAT'S THE WRONG ONE. 
          PH DASH 26 DASH OH SEVEN UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE TEXT AMENDMENTS, SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THIS NEXT ITEM IS CONSIDERATION OF TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND CODE OF ORDINANCES RELATED TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          THE CITY'S SHORT-TERM RENTAL WAS, UH, ORDINANCE WAS APPROVED IN JANUARY OF 2025. 
          AND THE PERMITTING PROCESS, WE ROLLED THAT OUT IN MAY OF 2025. 
          THE ORDINANCE ALLOWS SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS WITH A 5% CAP AND A PLOTTED SUBDIVISION. 
          AND NO SHORT-TERM RENTALS LOCATED ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER. 
          UH, THE ANNUAL LICENSING AND OPERATIONAL REGULATIONS WERE INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE AND DATE. 
          WE'VE HAD 40 SHORT TERM RENTAL LICENSE APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED, AND 33 HAVE MET THE REGULATIONS. 
          SO 33 HAVE BEEN ISSUED, AND I THINK AT THE TIME, I THINK IN JANUARY WE THOUGHT WE HAD OVER A HUNDRED BECAUSE WE, WE HADN'T PURCHASED THE SOFTWARE AT THAT TIME. 
          IT WAS JUST KIND OF A, A SNAPSHOT. 
          BUT WHAT WE FOUND IS WE HAD A LOT OF, UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE WHERE IT WAS JUST A BASEMENT THAT WAS BEING RENTED, OR IT WAS A ROOM WITHIN A HOUSEHOLD. 
          SO THE MAJORITY OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS A DWELLING, SHORT 
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TERM RENTAL WAS ACTUALLY JUST A ROOM IN THE HOUSE. 
          SO WE'VE HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO MAKE SURE, UM, THAT, THAT OWNERS KNOW THAT THAT IS, IS NOT PERMITTED. 
          SO OUR RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT IS SOME CHANGES TO MAKE SURE IT'S VERY CLEAR. 
          IT WAS, IT WASN'T ALLOWED PREVIOUSLY. 
          AND EVEN WHEN WE PUT THE JANUARY, 2025 ORDINANCE IN PLACE, IT DID NOT ALLOW THE RENTAL OF A ROOM. 
          IT HAD TO BE THE ENTIRE DWELLING. 
          YOU COULDN'T HAVE, UH, TWO FAMILIES WITHIN, UH, ONE DWELLING. 
          SO THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY'RE RECOMMENDING WE'RE RECOMMENDING WOULD HELP WITH THAT. 
          UH, THE OTHER CHANGE THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD IS WHEN WE, WE ADOPTED THIS IN JANUARY OF 2025. 
          WE DID NOT ADVERTISE THE DOWNTOWN ZONING DISTRICTS, AND THAT WAS JUST INADVERTENTLY WE LEFT THAT OUT. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO, WE KNEW THAT THERE COULD BE SOMETHING WHERE WE COME BACK, SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CORRECT THAT ALSO. 
          SO LOOKING AT 2.7 0.1, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING THIS LANGUAGE HERE FOR, AND THIS IS ALREADY IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, SO WE'RE JUST CARRYING IT OVER. 
          SO IF SOMEBODY'S LOOKING IN THE UDC, THEY CAN ALSO SEE IT WITHIN UDC. 
          NO, SHORT-TERM RENTALS SHALL BE PERMITTED FOR APARTMENTS, TENTS, YURTS TRUCK CAMPERS, TRAILERS, OR OTHER SIMILAR PORTABLE SHELTERS. 
          BUT NOT INCLUDING ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ASSOCIATED WITH A DWELLING FOR SALE. 
          DETACHED OR ATTACHED, NO SHORT-TERM RENTAL SHALL OFFER INDIVIDUAL ROOMS FOR RENT, NOR SHALL ANY SHORT-TERM RENTAL OFFER FOR RENT LESS THAN THE ENTIRETY OF THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNIT OR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS JUST, WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING WITH THIS LANGUAGE. 
          IT WAS ALREADY IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. 
          WE JUST, BECAUSE WE WANNA NOW MAKE SURE IT'S IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE HAVE TO, TO BRING THAT FORWARD , JUST FOR, FOR CLARIFICATION. 
          AND THEN WITHIN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, WORKING ON THE CLARIFICATION OF, OF THE SAME ISSUE THAT WE SAW, UH, WITH, WITH SO MANY, UM, APPLICANTS THAT WERE NOT PERMITTED, WE'RE JUST ADDING TO NUMBER SIX. 
          NO SHORT TERM RENTAL SHALL OFFER INDIVIDUAL ROOMS FOR RENT, NOR SHALL ANY SHORT TERM RENTAL OFFER FOR RENT LESS THAN THE ENTIRETY OF A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNIT OR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. 
          AGAIN, WITH, IF YOU WOULD'VE READ OUR CODE PREVIOUSLY, YOU WOULD'VE FOUND THIS INFORMATION THAT IT, IT IS NOT ALLOWED TO RENT ONE ROOM WITHIN THE DWELLING. 
          SO WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING, IT'S JUST CLARIFICATION. 
          UH, THIS ITEM WAS CONSIDERED AT THE MAY 7TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. 
          THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS AFTER DISCUSSION. 
          THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND UNANIMOUSLY, UH, APPROVAL TO TO YOU. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO TRY TO ANSWER THOSE. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR COOK? THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
          MAYOR, CAN I GO AHEAD AND READ THE ORDINANCE? PLEASE DO THAT. 
          AN ORDINANCE BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA, GEORGIA TO AMEND ARTICLE TWO AND APPENDIX A ALFREDA DOWNTOWN CODE OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE OF THE CITY OF ALPHA, GEORGIA. 
          AND ARTICLE 15 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF ALFREDA, GEORGIA TO ADD CLARIFICATION REGARDING THE USE OF SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNIT AND ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL TO ASSIGN SHORT-TERM RENTALS AS PERMITTED AND CONDITIONAL USES IN CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS TO APPEAL CONFLICTING ORDINANCES AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. 
          THANK YOU, MS. SWIN. 
          WE DO NOT HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS. 
          HOWEVER ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. 
          NOW IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO? I DO NOT SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD. 
          SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNSEL? YES, SIR. 
          MR. MAYOR, YOU DO. 
          I'M GONNA OFFER A MOTION SEATING TO APPROVE THE PH DASH 26 0 7 UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, TEXT AMENDMENTS, SHORT TERM RENTALS AS PRESENTED BY STAFF THIS EVENING. 
          SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PROTO MARKLE, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN REEVES. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE VOTE YES. 
          AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          SO WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ALONG. 
          LET'S SEE THE PRINTED AGENDA. 
          THE NEXT FEW ITEMS WERE THE ONES I HAD MENTIONED THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEFERRED. 
          SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS UNDER NEW 
          [A. Invitation to Bid 26-012: Sidewalk Construction on Cumming Street, Westside Parkway, Devore Road
Consideration and approval of the award of ITB 26-012 for Sidewalk Construction on Cumming Street, Westside Parkway, Devore Road to Ohmshiv Construction in an amount not to exceed $1,891,097.20, and with authorization for the Mayor to execute all necessary documents.]
BUSINESS. 
          FIRST ITEM IS INVITATION TO BID, 26 DASH 0 1 2. 
          SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION ON C*****G STREET, WEST SIDE PARKWAY, DEVORE ROAD DIRECTOR SA SAVAGE. 
          IT'S ABOUT TIME YOU HAD TO 
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VOICE . 
          GOOD MAYOR, COUNSEL, TONIGHT BEFORE YOU ARE SIDEWALK PROJECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ALPHA LOOP, UM, PARK BOND PROJECT THAT WE HAD. 
          WE FINISHED ROSWELL STREET, RY LANE, THIS IS THE OTHER SECTION, DEVORE ROAD, RIGHT FOR A QUICKTRIP. 
          AND WE ALSO HAVE THE COMING STREET SIDEWALK PROJECT, WHICH WAS THE T PLUS TWO PROJECT. 
          SO WE WENT OUT TO BID AT, UM, A VERY GOOD TURNOUT. 
          SEVEN BIDS CAME IN AND ON SHIFT CONSTRUCTION AT 1,891,000, $97 AND 27 WAS 20 20 CENTS, EXCUSE ME, WAS THE LOW BID. 
          AND WE'RE LOOKING AT 300 DAYS TO COMPLETE THE WORK. 
          UM, DEVO ROAD WILL HAVE A 12 FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK, 'CAUSE IT'S PART OF THE ALPHA LOOP, WHICH IS A STANDARD. 
          AND THE SIDEWALK ON WEST SIDE PARKWAY AND CUMING STREET WILL BE SIX FEET WIDE. 
          AND ALSO INCLUDED IN THE SCOPE OF WORK ON WEST SIDE PARKWAY IS ADDING A RIGHT TURN LANE ONTO, UM, CUMING STREET FROM WEST SIDE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          BECAUSE IN THE MORNINGS IT BACKS UP THROUGH LANE WITH THE SCHOOL THERE, WHERE BASICALLY GONNA REMOVE A MEDIAN, A SMALL NARROW LANDSCAPE MEDIAN AND RETRIP AN EXISTING ONE TO ACCOMMODATE THIS. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA WORK WITHIN THE EXISTING, UM, KER AND GUTTER. 
          SO JUST TO CLARIFY, WHERE IS THAT EXTRA RIGHT TURN LANE? UM, ON WEST SIDE PARKWAY. 
          I GOT A PICTURE WITH THOUSAND WORDS GOING SOUTH. 
          GOING SOUTH. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          YEP. 
          I JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO FAR HERE, THERE. 
          GOTCHA. 
          THIS LANDSCAPE MEETING WILL BE, UM, REMOVED. 
          MUCH NEEDED. 
          YEP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MS. OR HUSKY, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? NO, SIR, WE DO NOT. 
          HOWEVER, ANYONE WANTS TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ABOUT THE CUMING STREET ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. 
          NOW'S YOUR CHANCE. 
          I DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD. 
          SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL? YES, MAYOR. 
          UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AWARD ITB 26 DASH OH ONE TWO FOR SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION ON C*****G STREET, WEST SIDE PARKWAY AND DEVORE ROAD TO OEV CONSTRUCTION, AN AMOUNT TOTALING $1,891,097 AND 20 CENTS. 
          AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. 
          HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN REEVES. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          SECOND BY COUNCILMAN, HES ANY DISCUSSION? UH, I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          EXCUSE ME NOW I'M CONFUSED. 
          ARE WE READY FOR A VOTE? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM, PLEASE VOTE YES. 
          AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          SO WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ALONG TO 
          [B. Crabapple Government Building Roof Replacement
Consideration and approval of the award of the Crabapple Government Building Roof Replacement project to Hopewell Roofing & Restoration in an amount not to exceed $64,559.56, and with authorization for the Mayor to execute all necessary documents.]
THE CRAB APPLE GOVERNMENT BUILDING ROOF REPLACEMENT. 
          YES, MAYOR COUNCIL, THIS PROJECT WAS PART OF THE FY 26 MIDYEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT. 
          WE'RE GONNA REPLACE THE, UM, CRAB ROOF AT CRAB APPLE GOVERNMENT. 
          WE RECEIVED THREE BIDS. 
          UM, SIX 4,000 WAS $559. 
          56 CENTS WAS THE LOW BID. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT NORTH PROCEED, UM, FROM COMPLETION ABOUT TWO WEEKS. 
          SO QUICK TURNAROUND. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTORS? E MR. HUSKY, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? NO, SIR, WE DO NOT. 
          HOWEVER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS, NOW'S YOUR CHANCE. 
          DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD. 
          SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL? YES, MAYOR. 
          I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AWARD THE CRAB APPLE GOVERNMENT BUILDING ROOF REPLACEMENT PROJECT TO HOPEWELL ROOFING AND RESTORATION IN AN AMOUNT TOTALING $64,559 AND 56 CENTS, AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. 
          HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER REEVES. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TIMM MERKEL IN DISCUSSION. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE VOTE. 
          YES. 
          COUNCILMAN DRISCOLL, I THINK. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          IT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL. 
          THANK YOU, PETE. 
          NEXT ITEM IS THE INVITATION TO 
          [C. Invitation To Bid 26-010: ADA Alpharetta Active Adult Center Parking Lot Improvements (CDBG)
Consideration and approval of the award of ITB 26-010 to Summit Construction & Development LLC for ADA Alpharetta Active Adult Center Parking Lot Improvements (CDBG) in an amount not to exceed $262,350.40, and with authorization for the Mayor to execute all necessary documents.]
BID. 
          26 DASH 0 1 0 AADA, A ALPHARETTA ACTIVE ADULT CENTER PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS. 
          CDBG DIRECTOR MORGAN ROGERS. 
          GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL. 
          AS ALWAYS, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT. 
          UH, WE'RE AT A NIGHT ASKING FOR CONSIDERATION ON APPROVAL TO AWARD A BID TO SUMMIT CONSTRUCTIONS AND DEVELOPMENT FOR THE A DA, UH, FOR IMPROVING THE A DA PARKING LOT, UM, AT THE RETA ADULT ACTIVITY ADULT CENTER, UM, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $262,350. 
          UM, THIS, UH, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH NORTH PARK, THE FIRST PARKING LOT, 
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IF YOU'RE COMING, UM, OFF OF COGBURN, THE FIRST PARKING LOT ON THE RIGHT SERVICES, UM, MAINLY THE ADULT ACTIVITY CENTER, BUT IT ALSO SERVICES 12 PICKLEBALL COURTS AS WELL AS THREE TENNIS COURTS THERE AT NORTH PARK. 
          UM, WE HAVE INADEQUATE A DA PARKING THERE FOR A CORRAL THAT IS 55 AND OVER. 
          UM, WE WERE APPLIED FOR AND RECEIVED A, UH, C UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, UH, FOR THAT THROUGH, WHICH IS A STATE, UH, AWARD THROUGH FULTON COUNTY. 
          UM, WE BID THAT PROJECT, UH, TO AN INVITATION TO BID. 
          WE HAD SIX PEOPLE THAT WE, I MEAN SIX COMPANIES THAT REPLIED TO IT. 
          UM, SUMMIT WAS THE LOWEST AND, UH, WAS AND IS QUALIFIED TO DO THE WORK. 
          SO FOR, WE WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL TONIGHT, UM, OF THIS, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE CITY, UH, IS PUTTING IN $152,350 AND WE'RE GETTING $110,000 FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ROCK GRANT THAT COMES TO A 41 59 SPLIT. 
          I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. OSKY. 
          ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY. 
          HOWEVER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK, NOW'S YOUR CHANCE. 
          SENIOR ONE, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL? YES, MAYOR. 
          I MOVE THE COUNCIL AWARD ITB 26 DASH 10 FOR A DA ALPHARETTA ACTIVE ADULT CENTER PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS TO SUMMIT CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT LLC IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $262,350 AND 40 CENTS, OF WHICH $110,000 OF THAT IS GRANT FUNDING AND AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. 
          I'M A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SECOND. 
          IS THAT A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER? MEMBER? IT WAS IN DISCUSSION. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE VOTE YES. 
          AND IT DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY. 
          SO WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ALONG. 
          NEXT ITEM 
          [D. Ordinance: Offenses and Miscellaneous Provisions Ordinance Text Amendments
SECOND READING: The first reading of this item occurred during the April 27, 2026 City Council meeting.
Consideration and approval of an Ordinance to amend Chapter 30, referred to as Offenses and Miscellaneous Provisions, of the Code of the City of Alpharetta to amend provisions regarding the discharge of firearms; to amend provisions regarding urban camping and the improper use of property; to regulate the discharge of bows and crossbows; to prohibit interference of a city officer; to prohibit false representations to a city officer; to prohibit loitering and prowling; to prohibit trespass; to prohibit street racing and reckless driving exhibitions; to prohibit vandalism; to prohibit aggressive panhandling; to prohibit public drunkenness; to provide for traffic violations for disobeying or avoiding an official traffic control device; to prohibit public urination or defecation; to prohibit creating a disturbance at schools; to provide for enforcement; to provide for penalties for violations; to repeal conflicting ordinances; and for other purposes.]
IS THE ORDINANCE FOR OFFENSES AND MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS, ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENTS. 
          MS. ESWINE, COULD YOU READ THE ORDINANCE ALOUD PLEASE? THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          AN ORDINANCE BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ALFREDA, GEORGIA TO AMEND CHAPTER 30 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF ALFREDA OFFENSES AND MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS TO REV PROVIDE FOR EFFECTIVE DATES AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. 
          UM, THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE. 
          THE ORDINANCE IS LARGELY UNCHANGED SINCE THE FIRST READING. 
          HOWEVER, UNDER THE SECTION REGULATING THE BOWS AND CROSSBOSS, WE HAVE, UM, TWEAKED THE PRO THE PROVISIONS, THE, UH, PERMITTING REQUIREMENT IS NO LONGER INCLUDED. 
          UM, WHICH WE THINK STRIKES A, A BETTER BALANCE WITH THE, THE RIGHT FOR UM, INDIVIDUALS TO USE THEIR PROPERTY AND TO EXERCISE THEIR SECOND AMENDMENT. 
          UM, AND ALSO IT REMOVES THE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS FOR SAFETY REGULATIONS, UM, AS CONCERN WAS EXPRESSED ABOUT THAT. 
          AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S AIMED AT, UM, STRIKING THE RIGHT BALANCE WHILE STILL PROTECTING THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC. 
          AND SO, UM, THE REGULATIONS ARE PRIMARILY AIMED AT WHERE THINGS ARE AIMED, RIGHT? UM, WHERE, SORRY, WE'VE BEEN HERE A WHILE. 
          UM, BUT TO ENSURE THAT, UH, NODE TARGETS OR, UM, PROJECTILES LEAVE A PROPERTY, UM, AND PROVIDE DISTANCE REGULATIONS FROM OCCUPIED DWELLINGS. 
          IS EVERYONE CLEAR ON THAT? ALL RIGHT, MS. OR HUSKY, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? NO, SIR, WE DO NOT. 
          HOWEVER, NOW IS YOUR CHANCE TO COME FORWARD IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. 
          DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD. 
          SO, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL? YES, MAYOR. 
          I MOVE TO APPROVE. 
          ONE SECOND READING, UH, UH, THE ORDINANCE TAX AMENDMENTS OUTLINED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. 
          I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DORITO. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DRISCOLL. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE YES. 
          AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          SO THAT'LL WRAP UP THAT PORTION OF TONIGHT'S 
          [A. Fiscal Year 2027 Budget
Discussion of the upcoming FY 2027 budget.]
BUSINESS ITEMS AND MOVE ON TO THE WORK SESSION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2027. 
          BUDGET DIRECTOR HARRIS. 
          SAVED THE BEST FOR LAST MR. HARRIS . 
          UM, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          UM, THIS IS THE SECOND WORKSHOP ON THE 
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BUDGET. 
          IT'S BEEN OUT FOR ABOUT, UH, TWO WEEKS NOW, IF I HAVE MY MATH RIGHT. 
          UM, AND UH, LAST MEETING WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE OPERATIONS AND, UH, TONIGHT I JUST HAVE A FEW, UH, SLIDES TO, UH, TALK ABOUT CAPITAL, ET CETERA. 
          AND MAYBE TO JUST READDRESS THE OVERALL BUDGET AGAIN. 
          UM, I HAVE MET, UH, WITH SEVERAL OF YOU. 
          I THINK ALMOST EVERY ONE OF YOU HAS HAD SOME QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY. 
          AND, UH, I HAVE A THREE HOUR MEETING SET UP WITH KATIE. 
          THIS, YEAH, I'M LOOKING RES THIS WEEK, SO I'LL BRING THE COFFEE . 
          BUT, UH, IT'S BEEN GOOD AND HOPEFULLY YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER IT AND I APPRECIATE YOU SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS, UH, SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GET, GET EVERYBODY ON THE RIGHT PAGE AND NOT HAVE TO HAVE IT ALL UP HERE IN FRONT. 
          UM, BUT I DID WANNA MENTION I MADE A MISTAKE THAT'S, YOU CAN MARK THAT DOWN. 
          UH, BUT YOUR SLIDE, YOUR FIRST SLIDE THERE, IF YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO SLIDE THREE, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO SLIDE TWO IN A MINUTE. 
          THAT'S ON IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE HARD COPY, I THINK IT'S CORRECT ELECTRONICALLY, BUT, UH, AGAIN, JUST, UH, THE BUDGET OVERALL, UH, FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT, UM, UH, IS BALANCED ON A, ON A SAME MILL RATE OF 5.75 MILLS. 
          WE ARE PROJECTING AN INCREASE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT A 6%, UH, VALUE INCREASE ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE. 
          AND, UH, UNFORTUNATELY ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSIONS HERE TONIGHT, BUT ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, WE'RE STILL EXPECTING THAT TO BE ZERO OR NEGATIVE. 
          UH, I THINK NEGATIVE ONE 1% OR SO ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE. 
          SO, UM, THAT IS HOW BASICALLY THE BALANCE, THE BUDGET IS BALANCED FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT. 
          WE DO HAVE, UH, SALARY INCREASES IN THERE, UH, FOR 3% MERIT, AND THEN SOME MARKET ADJUSTMENT SALARY INCREASES. 
          I THINK, UH, THE BIG SIGNIFICANT ITEM HASN'T CHANGED MUCH SINCE THE, THE RETREAT IS, UH, I THINK IT'S A, A BUDGET THAT'S HAD TO REACT TO SOME THINGS WERE PUSHED UPON US OR, OR LEFT IN OUR CORNER. 
          AND THAT IS THE JAIL. 
          AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, UH, THAT'S ABOUT A TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR SPEND. 
          THAT IS A LARGE IMPACT TO A, TO A GOVERNMENT, UH, OUR SIZE. 
          AND I THINK, UH, ON, UH, REGARDLESS OF THAT DECISION, THIS, THIS BUDGET AND WHAT DEPARTMENTS WORKED ON TOGETHER, I THINK FROM YOUR DIRECTION AND EVERYTHING IS, IS A BALANCED BUDGET THAT, UM, IS ABLE TO, TO, TO CARRY THAT, UH, THAT, THAT EXPENSE AT, AT TWO AND HALF ALONG WITH SOME REVENUES THAT, UM, AN E 9 1 1 SUBSIDIZATION OF ABOUT 800,000. 
          THAT'S THE FULL IMPACT. 
          UM, AND WE'RE HOPING TO GET SOME RESOLUTION WITH MILTON DOWN THE ROAD. 
          UH, BUT THE REALITY IS THAT REVENUE SOURCE IS JUST NOT KEPT UP WITH, WITH, UH, THE DEMANDS OF RUNNING A, UH, 9 1 1 CENTER. 
          SO, UH, THERE IS SOME LEGISLATION OUT THERE REGARDING SOME POTENTIAL, UM, REFERENDUM FOR THE VOTERS TO, FOR THE STATE TO CREATE AN E NINE ONE FUND. 
          AND, BUT REALLY DON'T SEE, I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING RIGHT NOW WHEN READING THAT. 
          UH, IT'S HARD TO ASCERTAIN WHAT IS, WHAT OUR RELIEF WOULD BE. 
          AND WHEN YOU READ THAT, SO RIGHT NOW IT'S IN, IT'S OPEN AND WE'RE NOT COUNTING ON IT. 
          HOPEFULLY THERE IS, UH, HOPEFULLY THAT INDICATES THAT SOME RELIEF IS ON THE WAY FOR ALL, YOU KNOW, UM, MUNICIPALITIES THAT RUN THE 9 1 1 CENTERS. 
          BUT, UH, RIGHT NOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS WHEN, WHEN YOU READ THE STATUTE OR THE CHANGE. 
          SO, UM, NEXT, UH, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY, IF I COULD YEP. 
          JUST PAUSE YOU THERE. 
          CHIEF LWIN, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE LEGISLATION? I BELIEVE THERE'S AN AMENDMENT SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE BALLOT THIS FALL, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. 
          MAYOR REVENUES FOR 9 1 1 OPERATIONS. 
          YES, THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT, CORRECT. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          BUT IT'S NOT SETTLED AS TO WHAT THE DETERMINATION THEY'RE CONSIDERING ALTERNATIVE FORM OF REVENUE, ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF RECOVERY REVENUE BECAUSE OF CURRENT SITUATION. 
          SO PEOPLE ARE VOTING ON AN AMENDMENT WITHOUT HAVING CLARITY AS TO WHAT THE AMENDMENT SAYS. 
          NO, I THINK THERE'S STILL DISCUSSION AS TO HOW THEY'RE GONNA RECOVER THAT FUNDING. 
          MAYOR, I'VE GOT IT HERE IN FRONT OF ME IF YOU WANT ME TO JUST READ IT FOR YOU REAL FAST, IF YOU DON'T MIND. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S A PRETTY BIG HIT FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT AREN'T AWARE. 
          IT'S THE GEORGIA AUTHORIZED CREATION OF NEXT GENERATION 9 1 1 FUND AND A YES VOTE WOULD SUPPORT AMENDING THE STATE CONSTITUTION TO ALLOW THE STATE LEGISLATOR TO CREATE AND DEDICATE REVENUE TO A FUND TITLE THE GEORGIA NEXT GENERATION 9 1 1 FUND. 
          BUT TO TOM AND CHIEF'S POINT, IT'S VERY VAGUE REGARDING WHERE THAT FUNDING WOULD COME FROM. 
          THERE'S NO IDENTIFIED FUNDING, POTENTIALLY, UH, SOME NEW SOURCES OF REVENUE OR POSSIBLY EVEN CURRENT SOURCES OF REVENUE, BUT IT DOES NOT ESTABLISH WHAT, IT BASICALLY JUST 
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SAYS THAT THERE CAN BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE, TO THE, UH, CONSTITUTION TO ALLOW FOR FUNDING OF E 9 1 1 CENTERS MOVING FORWARD. 
          BUT IT'S, IT'S VERY VAGUE BEYOND THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          AND ON THAT POINT, WILL IT BE FUNDING TO 9 1 1 CENTERS SPECIFIC OR BY COUNTY WITH COUNTIES THEN DOLING IT OUT TO JURISDICTIONS IN THE COUNTIES? I HATE TO BE A BROKEN RECORD, BUT IT'S NOT THAT SPECIFIC. 
          YEAH, IT JUST BASICALLY JUST SAYS, UM, MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE E 9 1 1 CENTERS AND IT DOESN'T GO REALLY BEYOND THAT. 
          IT'S VERY VAGUE AND IT, IT ALSO REFERENCES, UH, YOU KNOW, FUNDING SOURCES, BUT IT DOES THEN GOES ON TO SAY IT'S EXISTING REVENUES. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF EX EXISTING REVENUES MEANS THAT, UM, THAT, UH, THE DOLLAR 50 OR THE, THE CHARGE SURCHARGE ON YOUR CELL PHONE USAGE, IS THAT A REVENUE THAT THEY CAN TAKE TO $3 AND THAT'S EXISTING REVENUES? OR DOES THAT EXIST EXISTING REV REVENUES ONLY THE DOLLAR 50 DON'T KNOW. 
          SEEMS TO HAVE SOME CONTRADICTORY LANGUAGE IN IT, BE HONEST. 
          BUT YEAH, I I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF WE WOULD RECEIVE, SAYING THE FUNDING'S THERE, WE WOULD RECEIVE STATE DOLLARS DIRECTLY TO THE MUNICIPALITY, OR IF IT GETS WASHED THROUGH AN INTERMEDIARY GOVERNMENT LEVEL, THERE'S NO INDICATION OF THAT. 
          I MEAN, BASED, AND AGAIN, I'M, I'M MAKING AN ASSUMPTION HERE, BUT BASED ON THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, IT WOULD COME STRAIGHT TO THE MUNICIPALITY. 
          WELL, AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BRING THIS TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL. 
          CITY OF ALPHARETTA USED TO SUSTAIN OUR E 9 1 1, OUR 9 1 1 OPERATORS BY A STATE ALLOWED FEE ON PHONES, BUT NOW EVERYBODY HAS A CELL PHONE AND IT'S NOT COVERING THE COSTS. 
          IT'S COSTING US OVER $800,000 A YEAR OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND. 
          AND SO THAT'S A BIG ISSUE AND I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT IT'S STILL UP IN THE HEIRS AS TO HOW THAT REVENUE'S GONNA BE RECOVERED. 
          COUNCILWOMAN RUIZ, SUMMERTIME SEEMS LIKE A TIME OFF FOR EVERYBODY, BUT THE LEGISLATORS ARE KIND OF LIKE FIGURING OUT WHAT THEY'RE GONNA FOCUS ON IN THE FALL. 
          AND IT SEEMS LIKE A REALLY GOOD TIME FOR ALL THE CITIES TO GET TOGETHER AND TALK TO OUR NORTH FULTON LEGISLATORS, TALK TO PEOPLE AT THE STATE. 
          I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE CONNECTED. 
          LET'S NOT TALK TO PEOPLE AT THE STATE. 
          I DON'T THINK THESE, THE INTENTION WAS EVER FOR IT NOT TO BE COVERED. 
          AND THIS HAS REALLY PUT US IN A SIGNIFICANT HOLE AND I DON'T THINK, I THINK EVERYBODY WANTS OUR, OUR CITIZENS COVERED. 
          BUT THE POINT BEING, BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE FALL, I HOPE THAT WE ALL HAVE DISCUSSED WHAT OUR LEGISLATIVE OBJECTIVES ARE AND WHAT OUR WISHLIST IS. 
          I'D RATHER GIVE THEM A WISHLIST THAN JUST CROSS MY FINGERS AND HOPE THAT OUR LEGISLATORS ARE GOING TO DO WHAT WE NEED. 
          I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE WORTH OUR WHILE. 
          AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT A GET TOGETHER PLANNED AT SOME POINT ABOUT STRATEGIC PLAN, MAYBE THAT'D BE A GOOD TIME, BUT I'LL LEAVE THAT TO YOU. 
          BUT THEY, I WOULD LIKE TO HAND THEM A LIST OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE. 
          AND THIS SEEMS TO BE REALLY AT THE TOP OF THE LIST. 
          COUNCILMAN DORITO. 
          YEAH. 
          TWO QUICK THINGS, UH, JUST ON THIS TOPIC, UM, I THINK IT WAS IN THE EIGHTIES, THERE'S A US SUPREME COURT CASE, GOLDBERG VERSUS SUITE, AND I KNOW IT VERY WELL. 
          IT WAS TO DETERMINE WHERE THE EXCISE TAX WOULD GO TO, UM, STATE AND LOCAL JURISDICTIONS AROUND THE COUNTRY'S CELL PHONES YOU GO ALL OVER THE PLACE, RIGHT? UM, SO THEY MADE IT THE BILLING ADDRESS OF THE CELL PHONE. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHY. 
          OUR STATE LEGISLATURE, MAYBE WE CAN DO THIS IN ADVISING THEM ON THIS. 
          THEY SHOULD APPLY THE SAME LOGIC UNDER THAT CASE TO CELL PHONE USERS WHERE, WHO HAVE A ADDRESS IN ALPHARETTA THAT, THAT 9 1 1 FEE GETS IMPOSED ON THAT, THAT BILL AND THAT THAT MONEY COMES TO THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS TO CONTINUE. 
          MAYOR, WHAT WE'RE LOSING RIGHT NOW, POTENTIALLY A A, A FUNDING SOURCE FOR OUR 9 1 1 CENTER, BUT JUST A THOUGHT, SOMETHING WE MIGHT WANNA LOBBY ON, YOU KNOW. 
          BUT THEN WE HAVE 50,000 ADDITIONAL PEOPLE ON TOP OF OUR DATE, NIGHTTIME RESIDENTS IN THE CITY. 
          SO WE HAVE A 9 1 1 CENTER IN THE DAYTIME FOR, UH, 120,000. 
          BUT WE HAVE A HUNDRED, WE HAVE 65,000 POTENTIAL CELL PHONE OWNERS, MAX. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT UNDER THE CURRENT WAY WE GOT THE 9 1 1 REVENUES WAS YOU HAD TO HAVE A PHONE IN THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA. 
          CORRECT. 
          SAME CONCEPT. 
          YOU PEOPLE COMING IN THE CITY, YOU COULDN'T CHARGE THEM FOR THE, THE 9 1 1 FEE IN ALPHARETTA. 
          IT'S WHERE THE PHONE, IT WAS WHERE THE PHONE AREA CODE AND THE PHONE IS REGISTERED TO. 
          SO THIS IS SIMILAR CONCEPT THAT IT'S GETTING KINDA LATE. 
          I KNOW I'LL LEAVE THAT ALONE AND WE'RE NOT GONNA SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. 
          I, BECAUSE IT'S A LEGISLATIVE PROBLEM, BUT I THINK WE CAN, IT IS GREAT FOR US TO HAVE THIS ONE. 
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ANOTHER QUICK THING, I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM FOR THE RECORD, BILL, SENATE BILL 33 SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR, WHICH PUTS THE STATEWIDE CAP ON PROPERTY TAX INCREASES. 
          UM, I, I KNOW FULTON COUNTY ALREADY DOES THAT, AND WE, AND WE DO THAT, RIGHT? WE, WE, WE, UH, WE DIDN'T OPT OUT OF THAT. 
          SO THIS DOESN'T AFFECT US AT ALL RIGHT NOW, THAT SENATE BILL. 
          OKAY. 
          I DIDN'T THINK SO. 
          I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO WHAT I WOULD, IF YOU COULD, YOU JUST, IF YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THIS WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I THINK FOLLOWING UP FROM THE, I THINK POSSIBLY FROM THE MAYOR, BUT IF WE COULD SHOW THE NEXT SLIDE, WHICH I HAVE TO GO BACKWARDS ON MINE, BUT, UM, THIS IS JUST WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE TO A HOMEOWNER, TO A HOMESTEADED PROPERTY ON POTENTIALLY, UM, THE ASSESSED VALUE OF THAT HOME. 
          NOW WE'RE NOT ASSESSORS, SO WE, WHEN WE SAID THAT IT'S RESIDENTIAL OVERALL 6% GROWTH, WE WERE ASSUMING VERY SIMILAR TO THE PRIOR YEAR THAT IT'S 6% ON AVERAGE BECAUSE SOME HOMES THAT AREN'T HOMESTEADED MAY SEE A BIG JUMP AND SOME THAT ARE HOMESTEADED WRONG AND VICE VERSA. 
          BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY DAY IT'S ABOUT 6%. 
          SO JUST WANTED TO RUN SOME SCENARIOS REAL QUICK SO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW A HOMESTEADED PROPERTY'S VALUE OR TAXES WOULD GO UP. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT VALUE IS PASSED ON BY THE, THE, UH, BY THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE AND THEN YOU APPLY THE FLOATING HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WHICH SAID THAT THEIR ADJUSTED BASE VALUE, THAT IS THE VALUE OF WHICH THEY'RE GONNA GET TAXED ON THAT ADJUSTED BASE VALUE CAN ONLY GO UP THE LESSER OF, UH, CPI OR 3% MM-HMM  AND SO THIS PAST YEAR IT'S 2.7% IS THE CPI INCREASE. 
          SO, SO LET ME JUST MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S GOT THAT. 
          IF THERE'S A ZERO IN PERCENT INCREASE IN THE VALUE OF A HOMESTEADED PROPERTY, THEN THEY STILL WILL SEE IF, IF THEY'RE SITTING ON VALUE OR ON A, UH, FLOATING HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION VALUE. 
          'CAUSE OVER THE YEARS THEY'RE SITTING ON AN EXEMPTION, THEIR VALUE IN THEIR HOME IS MUCH GREATER THAN THAT ADJUSTED BASE, THEN IT WILL GO UP 2.7%. 
          THEY WILL SEE THAT IN, ON THE OPERATION SIDE AND THE DEBT SIDE, THEY'D SEE NOTHING. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S A ZERO INCREASE. 
          I DIDN'T PUT ZERO ON HERE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO TRY TO GET OUR BRAINS THINKING ABOUT HOW THE FLOATING HOMESTEAD WORKS. 
          BUT WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK AN AVERAGE HOME AND THEN WE SAID HOMESTEADED VALUES OF LET'S USE THE BASE AT SEVEN 50, BUT THIS YEAR THEY SAW 6% INCREASE, THEN THEY'RE GONNA PAY, UH, 1591 VERSUS 1498. 
          IF YOU GO DOWN BELOW THAT, YOU'LL SEE THAT'S $52 AND 60 CENTS AND THAT'S $3, I MEAN 3.51%. 
          SO IF THEY DID SEE THE AVERAGE THAT WE THINK THEY COULD SEE, UM, 6% IT EQUATES AND 'CAUSE OF THAT FLOATING HOMESTEAD ONLY APPLIES TO THE OPERATION, DOESN'T APPLY TO THE DEBT. 
          AND UM, AND WE ARE SHIFTING A LITTLE BIT OF THE MILLAGE OVER TO OPERATIONS, THEN THEREFORE THEY WILL SEE SLIGHTLY OVER THE 3% IF THEY SAW US, UH, 6% AND THE VICE VERSA. 
          IF THEY SEE A 10% NOW THEY SHOULDN'T SEE A 10%, BUT I HAVE NOTICED THAT THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE AT TIMES COULD GO TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS WITHOUT AN INCREASE AND THEN 40 OR 50, YOU KNOW, 20, 30, 40% INCREASE. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, UM, YOU'RE GONNA SHAVE THAT DOWN QUITE A BIT BECAUSE OF THE FLOATING THAT'S GONNA SAVE THAT TAX, THAT TAXPAYER. 
          BUT THEY WILL SEE IT ON THE DEBT SIDE BECAUSE THERE'S NO PROTECTION OVER THERE. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY YOU CAN LOOK AT IT, THEY COULD HAVE BEEN PAYING MORE OVER THE YEARS OR WHATEVER, BUT IT'S A SHOCK TO THE SHOCK TO THEM BECAUSE IT STILL WILL BE A PERCENTAGE OF THEIR TAXES THEY OWE WILL BE ON THAT SMALLER MILLAGE RATE. 
          THAT'S THE POINT. 
          OH, I WOULD GET THIS MESSED UP. 
          OH, 7.7 2.7, NO, LAST YEAR WAS 0.72. 
          NOW IT'S 0.707, YES. 
          SEVEN. 
          OH 'CAUSE THE OPERATION'S 5.05. 
          UH, BUT ANYWAYS, GOOD NEWS FOR US TOO IS THAT THE STATE HAS PUT IN A, UM, HT, LEMME MAKE SURE I USE THE RIGHT HT RD HOMEOWNERS TAX RELIEF GRANT. 
          THEY DO THIS OCCASIONALLY. 
          THEY ARE PROVIDING A GRANT FOR $18,000 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION TO EVERYBODY. 
          SO THAT $18,000 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, UH, AMOUNTS TO ABOUT $90, UH, BASED ON OUR MILITARY 'CAUSE IT'LL, AGAIN, WE'LL APPLY TO THE, TO THE OPERATING MILLS AND THEY WILL PAY US BACK. 
          SO WE'LL GIVE THE CREDIT TO THE TAXPAYER AND THEN THE STATE PAYS US THAT, THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT, THAT'S ABOUT 1.3 MILLION TO THE CITY, UH, COMING FROM THE STATE THAT WE PROVIDE THIS GRANT. 
          SO THAT AMOUNT IS ABOUT $90 $91. 
          SO IF YOU CAN SEE UNDER BOTH 
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THOSE SCENARIOS, THEY WOULD HAVE NO INCREASE IN TAXES AFTER YOU APPLY THAT, THAT GRANT. 
          SO HOPEFULLY I JUST WANTED TO SHOW THAT AND HOW IT WORKS AND WHAT THOSE IMPACTS ARE. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF LEGISLATION. 
          IT'S ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT WE NEED TO CAP IT, SAVE IT MORE AND ET CETERA, ET CETERA, AND GET INTO OUR BUSINESS. 
          BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE'S ALREADY A SIGNIFICANT TAX, I MEAN, EXEMPTIONS THAT ARE, UH, THAT WE OFF OFFER OUR RESIDENTS. 
          OTHER THAN THAT, I JUST WANTED TO, 'CAUSE THIS DIDN'T GET FLASHED UP IN, UM, THE SCREEN LAST WEEK IS REALLY JUST THE CI THE THE CURRENT YEAR CAPITAL PLAN FOR 2027. 
          AND THIS WILL JUST GIVE YOU, UM, AGAIN, IT'S IN YOUR BUDGET DOCUMENT, BUT IT USUALLY BECOMES WHERE A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS GET INTO THE FUNDING OF THESE PROJECTS. 
          SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S, IT'S 'CAUSE WE'RE BRINGING OVER CARE FOR BALANCES, ANDT, SLOSS AND EVERYTHING. 
          AND THEN FROM A LOT OF THE SLOS TURN RIGHT AROUND A RESERVE IT. 
          AND THEN YOU GUYS, AS COUNCIL WILL DECIDE, ULTIMATELY THAT USAGE ALL ALBEIT, WAS UNDER A PLAN, UNDER TS SPOT TWO. 
          BUT THE ACTUAL APPROPRIATION WILL COME FROM YOU WHEN WE BRING IT FORWARD AS, AS PROJECTS. 
          BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S $36 MILLION OF REVENUE SOURCES. 
          AND WE APPROPRIATE 18 MILLION OF PROJECTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN YOUR BUDGET BOOK. 
          UM, MAINLY YOU'RE TALKING EVERYTHING FROM ROAD REPAIR OF 5.7 MILLION FACILITY OF, UH, IMPROVEMENTS OF 4.3 MILLION FLEET OVERALLS, ABOUT 2.2 MILLION FOR, UH, SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE FOLLOWING THE NEW FLEET POLICY OF THEIR MILEAGE AND YEARS OF SERVICE. 
          UM, STORMWATER'S 1.5, PETE'S TAKING A LOOK AT THAT NUMBER AND FEELS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT LESSER AMOUNT THAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD STARTED A FEW YEARS AGO IS, IS THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, ACCEPTABLE NUMBER FOR HIM TO MAINTAIN THE STORMWATER AT THIS TIME. 
          UM, AND THEN IT, UH, IMPROVEMENTS OF 400,000, YOU KNOW, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          SO IT'S ALL THERE IN THE, UH, ATTACHMENTS AS SPECIFICALLY THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES. 
          AND, UM, WITH THAT, I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THOSE. 
          ALL THE ITEMS ARE IN THE PRESENTATION ACTUALLY. 
          AND THEN THERE'S A WRITEUP. 
          IT WILL TELL YOU WHICH PAGE THOSE ASSETS, UH, THOSE CAPITAL ITEMS, WHAT THEIR INTENT IS. 
          UH, LASTLY, I WANNA MOVE OVER TO THE CALENDAR BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE, UH, TIME BETWEEN NOW AND THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, UH, JUNE 1ST FOR THOSE QUESTIONS THAT CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ASK QUESTIONS TO MYSELF AND, AND CHRIS LAUDER BLOOM AND CHRIS WATERLOO AND OTHERS. 
          SO, UM, WE ARE PUTTING OUT THE NOTICE OF TAX INCREASE. 
          THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH, THERE'S NO WAY REALLY AROUND IT UNLESS YOU'RE GONNA LOWER MILLAGE RATES AND TRY TO SURVIVE ON THE SAME REVENUES YOU HAD LAST YEAR TO PAY FOR INCREASED HEALTH COSTS AND INCREASE PERSONNEL COSTS AND SALARIES. 
          YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA ROLL BACK. 
          AND MOST CITIES DO NOT ROLL BACK, BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO ADVERTISE BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T ROLL BACK FOR THAT VALUE INCREASE. 
          AND YOUR PRESUMED VALUE INCREASES THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A TAX INCREASE. 
          AND KEEP IN MIND WHAT YOU SEE IN THE PAPER WILL PROBABLY BE VERY, YOU KNOW, CONSERVATIVE. 
          IT'D BE A GREATER TAX INCREASE THAN, WE'LL ULTIMATELY THAN WE ULTIMATELY WILL PASS ON WHEN WE GET THE ASSESSMENTS. 
          BUT WE DO THAT SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESTART THE ADS AND ALL THAT. 
          THERE'S STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS THAT IF YOU MISS THAT MARK AND UNDERESTIMATE THE TAX INCREASE, YOU HAVE TO START THE PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN. 
          SO, UH, WE DO ESTIMATE IT. 
          SO WE'RE USING THE SAME NUMBER WE USED THE YEAR BEFORE, APPROXIMATELY SIX, 6.5%, UM, TAX INCREASE. 
          AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT CHANGING A MILITATE, THAT'S A STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE, STANDARD MEMO, STANDARD, UH, NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPERS. 
          BUT, UH, JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP THAT HAS TO BE ISSUED NOW SO THAT WE CAN MEET THESE DEADLINES. 
          SO THAT'S IT. 
          WE'LL, WE WILL MEET AGAIN PRIOR TO THIS IF WE HAVE TO, IF YOU GUYS CALL SOMETHING SPECIAL FOR US TO GO OVER OR IF YOU, UH, SEND A LOT OF REQUESTS AND WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO ANSWER, WE'LL DO THAT. 
          IF NOT, WE'RE SCHEDULED TO TALK ABOUT THIS ON JUNE 1ST. 
          THANK YOU, TOM. 
          THIS IS A WORK SESSION ITEM. 
          I DIDN'T POINT THAT OUT EARLIER. 
          SO THERE IS NO VOTE ON THIS ITEM. 
          THIS IS JUST TO HAVE A PUBLIC DISCUSSION. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE ELECTED OFFICIALS. 
          WE CAN'T JUST SIT IN THE BOARD ROOM AND DECIDE ALL THIS STUFF. 
          WE HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS IN PUBLIC SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THEIR MONEY. 
          COUNCILMAN MARIE, THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE THE, THE WORK, I APPRECIATE MY BUDGET BOOK. 
          UM, I WAS WONDERING, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE ROLLBACK RATE IS GONNA BE THIS YEAR? WHAT IT WOULD BE, WHAT DO YOU, IF WHAT WE'RE ASSUMING IF YOU WERE REVENUE NEUTRAL? DO YOU HAVE THAT AD BECAUSE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO USE THE GROWTH RATE, CORRECT? WHAT'S THAT? YOU'RE ALLOWED TO USE THE UM, 
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THE ACTUAL NEW GROWTH, THE TAXABLE DIGEST THAT IS NEW GROWTH. 
          NEW GROWTH DOES NOT PLAY IN IS DOES NOT CALCULATE RIGHT NOW IT'S ALL ESTIMATING ON US. 
          I DON'T NEED, I'M GONNA SEE YOU TODAY AND THIS WEEK. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I DON'T NEED TO HAVE IT RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST WE'LL RUN OVER THAT THE NEXT TIME WE HAVE A OKAY. 
          HEARING. 
          I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO CHECK IT. 
          SEAN . 
          JUST KIDDING. 
          . 
          NO, THAT'S, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COUNCILMAN? HES, YEAH. 
          DIRECTOR HARRIS, YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, WE DO THE ADVERTISING FOR THE, UH, WOULD YOU CALL IT INCREASE A TAX INCREASE? YEAH. 
          UM, BUT, UH, IN, IN THE CONTEXT OF THE, THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE GENERATED BY VALUATIONS, CAPPED BY HOMESTEADS, ET CETERA, UM, THAT MORE OR LESS JUST TRACKS EVEN WITH OUR EXPENSE INCREASE, DOESN'T IT? CORRECT. 
          SO THAT, THAT TAX INCREASE IS NOT OVER ANY MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENT. 
          IT'S OVER LAST YEAR, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          AND OUR, OUR EXPENSE INCREASE FROM WHERE WE STARTED JULY 1ST, 2025, WHEN WE BACK OUT THE MIDYEAR ADJUSTMENTS, OUR EXPENSE INCREASE, I DON'T, I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T RUN THESE NUMBERS, BUT BY BUYING CALCULATIONS IT'S ALMOST 6.6%. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S GOTTA BE WELL OVER FOUR, WHICH IS NOW BECAUSE WE DID THE MIDYEAR BUDGET. 
          YEAH. 
          WITH THE MIDYEAR FACTORED IN IT'S, IT SHOWS 4.7. 
          BUT, SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST MATCHING OUR INCREASE IN NATURAL EXPENSES FROM A YEAR TO YEAR. 
          YES. 
          BASICALLY A BASE BUDGET. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. 
          THERE'S NOT A NEW, THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY A NEW INITIATIVE IN THAT BUDGET. 
          ANY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT THAT'S IN THIS BUDGET FROM WHAT THE MID-YEAR DISCUSSED AND THINGS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE BUSINESS OF. 
          YES. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN TELL THE PUBLIC THAT WE'RE JUST YEP. 
          KEEPING UP WITH EXPENSES. 
          WELL, I MEAN, I ALWAYS SAY THAT TECHNICALLY LOCAL GO, THE STATE DOES NOT NEED TO ADVERTISE THAT THE STATE SALES TAX IS GOING UP. 
          IT GOES UP EVERY YEAR AS THE VOLUME OF TRANSACTIONS GO UP AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS OF GAS, GAS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S SUBJECT TO GAS SALES TAX. 
          THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO POST A, A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE SAYING THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A TAX INCREASE. 
          'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT LOWERING THE FOUR PERCENTS THAT THEY, THE 4 CENTS ON THE, UH, SALES TAX THAT THEY'RE NOT LOWERING THAT. 
          BUT WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND PROPERTY TAXES, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS EXERCISE. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT, APPRECIATE IT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR HARRIS? IS THAT BREAKING NEWS YOU NEED TO SHARE WITH US RIGHT NOW? WELL, THE, THE ESTIMATED MILL CHANGE WOULD BE, WELL, I MEAN WE WOULD'VE, WE WOULD'VE HAD TO ROLL BACK TO 4.742 MILS AS OPPOSED TO 5.05 MILS. 
          AND THAT'S 0.3 MILS. 
          WHICH ONE MIL IS, IT'S ABOUT $7 MILLION, SO THAT'S 0.3 TIMES 7 MILLION. 
          ID JUST LIKE TO THROW OUT NUMBERS. 
          HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS. 
          THANKS SIR. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. 
          THANK YOU SEAN. 
          THANKS EVERYBODY. 
          MS. SWIN, ARE WE GONNA HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING? I BELIEVE SO, YES. 
          PARDON? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          MS. OR HUSKY, DO WE 
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HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? YES, WE DO. 
          UH, KRISTIN COLBY, IF YOU'LL COME, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. 
          HELLO? WELL, I'M VERY SHORT. 
          UM, MY NAME'S KRISTEN COLBY AND I LIVE AT TWO 12 CANTON STREET IN ALPHARETTA. 
          JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN I CAN START TALKING. 
          YOU ARE . 
          IS THAT OKAY? OKAY, HERE WE GO. 
          I KNOW IT'S GETTING VERY LATE. 
          I'M VERY TIRED. 
          I'M SURE Y'ALL ARE TOO. 
          UM, THE REASON THAT I'M HERE TONIGHT IS THAT I KNOW WE HAVE SOME ITEMS COMING UP ON THE TEES FLOSSED LIST. 
          UM, AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE ONE THAT SAYS THE MAYFIELD ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UM, I'VE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AT TWO 12 CANTON BACK IN LATE 2021, AND I'VE MADE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS, UM, ON THE UPSHAW HOUSE, WHICH IS A HISTORICAL HOME BUILT IN 1925. 
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UM, THAT HAS TAKEN ON QUITE A LOT OF EXPENSE. 
          UM, IT'S A HECK OF A LOT CHEAPER TO KNOCK DOWN AND TO REBUILD SOMETHING NEW. 
          UM, WHEN I CAME TO LOOK AT THE PROPERTY AND SPOKE WITH THE CITY AT THAT TIME, UM, I THOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING REALLY COOL. 
          UM, ALPHARETTA SEEMED TO BE REALLY PROUD OF THEIR HISTORICAL HOMES AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. 
          UM, AND I'M SORRY IF I'M GOING TO CRY. 
          UM, BUT WHAT I'M SEEING RIGHT NOW IS, UM, SORRY. 
          WHAT I'M SEEING RIGHT NOW IS THAT THE DOWNTOWN, UM, GARDEN DISTRICT IS CHANGING A LOT. 
          UM, I WASN'T ANTICIPATING THE DELVE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET. 
          THAT WAS ONE THING THAT I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED BY. 
          I MOVED IN. 
          UM, THERE ARE 17 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BEING BUILT ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME. 
          UM, MY HOUSE IS ZONED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES THERE ON CANR BEFORE MAYFIELD. 
          UM, THE REASON THAT I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP IS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW TO DO THIS ROAD IMPROVEMENT, UM, IT WOULD HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO TAKE OUT SOME LARGE GROWTH, UM, OAK TREES THAT ARE THERE, UM, IN THE GARDEN DISTRICT. 
          AND, UM, IT WOULD ALSO CAUSE QUITE A BURDEN ON MY FAMILY. 
          UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO RE, DEPENDING ON THE EXPANSION THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE, IT COULD POTENTIALLY EXPAND 19 FEET INTO OUR YARD. 
          UM, THIS IS A HISTORICAL PROPERTY. 
          UM, WE JUST RECENTLY REDID MR. UPSHAW'S, UM, POND AND, UM, I'VE PUT QUITE A LOT OF MONEY INTO THE, UM, LANDSCAPE THERE. 
          UM, IT ALSO WOULD INVOLVE MOVING MY FENCE, MY GATE, UM, TO MY HOME. 
          UM, IT WOULD ALSO IMPACT THE TREES THERE, UM, AND ALSO JUST KIND OF BRING FOUR LANES TO, TO RIGHT IN FRONT IN MY YARD THERE. 
          UM, SO I KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DO THINGS THAT ARE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          I KNOW THAT FOLKS DON'T LIKE SITTING IN TRAFFIC. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER TAKING THIS OFF OF THE TEA SPOS LIST. 
          UM, NO ONE WATCHES IT MORE THAN I DO. 
          I'M OUT THERE ALL THE TIME GARDENING. 
          UM, USUALLY I HAVE MY HEADSET ON BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF LOUD TRUCKS GOING BY. 
          UM, BUT PEOPLE ARE USUALLY GETTING THROUGH PRETTY QUICKLY. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU DO LOOK INTO MORE OPTIONS AS FAR AS, UM, TIMING THE LIGHTS DIFFERENTLY, PERHAPS MAKING A DIFFERENT, UM, PLAN TO MAKE ANOTHER RIGHT TURN ONTO MAIN STREET. 
          I KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS ARE TRYING TO GET TO 400 AND TRYING TO GET TO WORK IN THE MORNING. 
          UM, SO I KNOW THAT THAT'S PROBABLY THE FRUSTRATION THAT PEOPLE ARE FEELING. 
          UM, I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT IT'S BEST SOLVED IN, UM, ENCROACHING ON THIS IMPORTANT LAND. 
          UM, WHEN I DID BUY THE HOUSE AND SAW THAT IT, THE DEVELOPMENT WAS GOING ACROSS THE STREET, UM, AT THAT TIME I KIND OF FELT A LITTLE ENCROACHED UPON. 
          I I WENT FROM THIS BEAUTIFUL WOODED LOT WITH A HISTORICAL HOME ON IT, UM, THAT WE COULD SEE FROM OUR FRONT PORCH AND ENJOY. 
          UM, THAT VIEW HAS CHANGED. 
          SO WHEN MY NEIGHBORS BEHIND ME DECIDED TO SELL, UM, I TOOK THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF SAY, WELL, I MIGHT HAVE LOST MY FRONT PORCH VIEW, BUT MAYBE I CAN MAKE A NICE BACK PORCH VIEW. 
          UM, SO I PURCHASED THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR, WHICH IS 1 4 6 MAYFIELD ROAD. 
          SO NOW I HAVE 300 FOOT, UM, ROAD FRONTAGE ALONG MAYFIELD THERE. 
          SO, UM, IF THIS EXPANSION WERE TO OCCUR ON MY SIDE OF THE STREET, UM, IT WOULD AFFECT BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES AND, UM, I'VE KIND OF PAID THOSE DEVELOPER PRICES. 
          IT'S DEFINITELY A HOT SPOT TO BE IN, I'M SURE Y'ALL KNOW. 
          UM, SO I'M JUST, UM, I WANNA BE ON THE SAME TEAM AS THE CITY. 
          I WANNA DO WHAT'S RIGHT BY PEOPLE. 
          UM, BUT THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT LANDMARK IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE DO GO BY THERE EVERY DAY. 
          UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE STOPPED AND TALKED TO ME ABOUT HOW THANKFUL THEY ARE THAT I'VE PUT SO MUCH WORK INTO THE HOUSE. 
          IT'S BEEN ON THE MILTON TOUR OF HOMES. 
          UM, SOMETIMES PEOPLE COME ACROSS THE STREET AND THINK THAT I'M PART OF THE ART CENTER AND I HAVE GIVEN THOSE OLD LADIES TOURS OF THE HOME, UM, EVEN WHEN I AM NOT PUT TOGETHER AND MY HOUSE IS A MESS . 
          UM, SO I'M VERY PROUD OF IT. 
          UM, IT HAS BEEN A LARGE INVESTMENT FOR ONE PERSON TO UNDERTAKE AND I WOULD JUST REALLY APP APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL SUPPORT, UM, IN SMALLER PEOPLE RESTORING THESE HOMES CORRECTLY. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF TIMES THESE LOTS GET DEVELOPED AND YOU KNOW, THE HISTORICAL HOMES ARE KIND OF BOXED OFF TO BE PROTECTED. 
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UM, BUT THEY DON'T REALLY LEAVE THE INTEGRITY OF THE INSIDE OF THE HOUSE. 
          THEY MIGHT BE REQUIRED TO LEAVE THE OUTSIDE LOOKING THE SAME, BUT THEY DON'T REALLY TAKE THE CARE TO PROTECT WHAT'S INSIDE THE HOUSE, LIKE THE CULT BURNING FIREPLACES OR THE ORIGINAL, UM, HARP PINE FLOORS AND THAT KIND OF THING. 
          SO I JUST WANNA SAY, AS A NEWBIE TO ALPHARETTA, I'VE ONLY LIVED HERE FOUR YEARS NOW. 
          I THINK, UM, I'M VERY SENTIMENTAL ABOUT MR. OF SHAW'S LILIES. 
          UM, UH, I MEAN I DON'T, I'M NOT FROM HERE. 
          IF I COULD, I'D JUST PAUSE YOU HERE. 
          TYPICALLY, WE ONLY ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THREE MINUTES. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL THAT'S MY COMMENT. 
          NO, BUT I UNDERSTAND. 
          FIRST TIME I SAW YOUR EMAIL, IT'S A COMPLEX ISSUE AND THERE WASN'T ANY WAY I COULD PUT ALL THAT IN WRITING BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW ALL OF THE ENGINEERING FEATURES THAT GO INTO IT. 
          WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS PLEASE REACH BACK OUT TO US. 
          YOU CAN REACH OUT THROUGH ME OR TO ONE OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS, EITHER IN PUBLIC WORKS OR IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND SIT DOWN WITH OUR TEAM AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO MITIGATE THIS. 
          THE CHALLENGE IS WE DO HAVE TO REPRESENT ALL THE PEOPLE AND TRY TO FIND A, A WIN-WIN. 
          I DO UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I UNDERSTAND. 
          I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT. 
          WELL, I KNOW THAT'S THE WAY TO RESOLVE, BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA, THAT I'LL MAKE A HUGE STINK AND I CAN AFFORD TO MAKE A HUGE STINK AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO GO KNOCKING ON DOORS AND I WILL BE A BIG PROBLEM FOR EVERYONE. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. 
          I HOPE THAT YOU'RE ON MY SIDE WITH THIS, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          YOU ARE WELCOME. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? NO SIR, WE DO NOT. 
          HOWEVER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD, NOW'S YOUR CHANCE. 
          I WILL HOLD YOU TO THE THREE MINUTES IN THIS POINT THOUGH, , I'M CLAUDIA LEWIS AND MY HUSBAND NAT AND I LIVE AT 180 4 CANTON STREET. 
          RIGHT NOW, IT'S NEXT DOOR TO KRISTEN. 
          AND NOT TOO LONG, WE HAVE A HOUSE IN THERE THAT MIKE AND RITA BROWN ARE BUILDING, AND THEN I'LL BE ONE DOOR DOWN FROM HER. 
          WE MOVED HERE IN ALPHARETTA ALMOST 60 YEARS AGO, AND UH, WE BROUGHT TWO LITTLE BOYS WITH US AND WE'VE LOVED ALPHARETTA AND WE LOVE OUR OLD HISTORIC HOUSE AND WE LOVE KRISTEN'S HOUSE. 
          NOW, MR. UPSHAW, WHO PROBABLY MOST OF YOU MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN HIM PERSONALLY, BUT HE BUILT THAT HOUSE. 
          HE BUILT IT WITH TIMBER ON HIS OWN PROPERTY. 
          UH, AND THERE'S SOME MIGHTY BIG OAKS THAT ARE ALONG MAYFIELD THERE THAT HE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE PLANTED, BUT I'M SURE HE WAS VERY PROUD OF THEM. 
          AND HE NEVER HAD ANY CHILDREN OF HIS OWN. 
          BUT HE WAS VERY, VERY KIND TO OUR BOYS WHO FELL IN HIS FISH POND ON ANY NUMBER OF OCCASIONS. 
          AND HE WAS VERY GRACIOUS TO FISH THEM OUT. 
          UH, OUR DOGS FELL FOR HIS LITTLE ROOT CELLAR. 
          OUR BOYS GOT UP IN TREES THEY COULDN'T GET OUT OF AND HE WOULD HOIST HIS LADDER AND CARRY IT BACK INTO THE WOODS AND, AND GET 'EM DOWN. 
          THAT'S PART OF HISTORY TOO, NOT JUST THE STRUCTURES AND THAT FISH POND, KRISTEN HAS LOVINGLY RESTORED A FISH POND THAT MY BOYS FELL IN. 
          NOW I THINK WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE MAYBE IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY. 
          AND I NOTICED THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE SAID THAT THEY LOVED ABOUT ALPHARETTA, THE TREE CANOPY. 
          THE TREE CANOPY, IT USED TO BE WE COULD WALK DOWN CANTON STREET AND THERE WASN'T ALMOST NO SUNSHINE THAT WOULD HIT THE STREET. 
          THAT'S NOT TRUE ANY LONGER. 
          AND EVERY TIME WE TAKE OUT THESE BIG BORDER TREES, WE LOSE THAT CANOPY. 
          NOW, OF COURSE, WE HAVE A WONDERFUL TREE PROGRAM AND WE B AND WE PLANT LOTS AND LOTS OF TREES AND THAT'S WONDERFUL. 
          BUT THIS A LONG TIME BEFORE THERE'S GONNA BE A CANOPY LIKE THEY ONCE WAS. 
          SO I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS THAT WE TRY 
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TO LOOK AT OUR PRIORITIES FOR THE FUTURE AND WHAT WE WANT ALPHARETTA OF THE FUTURE TO LOOK LIKE. 
          WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE GARDEN DISTRICT. 
          UH, I DON'T, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO BUILD ROADS AND ALL OF THAT, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE NEED OF A HOMEOWNER. 
          THIS IS SOMEONE IN, IN THAT HAS BOUGHT AN ALPHARETTA AND PUT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT. 
          MA'AM, YOUR TIME UP. 
          YEAH, WE'LL BE GLAD TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WITH YOU. 
          SIT. 
          I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME SO VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          OKAY, ALL PLEASE COME FORWARD. 
          MY NAME IS BOB MYERS. 
          I LIVE IN CRAB APPLE ON HIDDEN MEADOW DRIVE. 
          AND UM, I WOULD START BY SAYING I, I LOVE THE CITY AND I'VE LIVED HERE FOR MORE THAN 35 YEARS. 
          MY MOTHER WAS BORN HERE ON A FARM. 
          UM, I USED TO DRIVE BY THIS HOUSE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND IT WAS DARK AND IT WAS GLOOMY AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM AND I WAS NOT INVOLVED WITH LOCAL HISTORY IN ANY WAY. 
          AND I ALWAYS WONDERED WHY DIDN'T SOMEONE JUST KNOCK IT DOWN AND PUT UP A NICE LOOKING HOUSE? WELL THEN SUDDENLY IT BECAME A DIFFERENT HOUSE AND THE BUYER OF THE HOUSE PAINTED IT, DID AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF WORK ABOUT, UH, ON THE HOUSE INSIDE AND OUT. 
          AND NOW IT'S A SHOW PLACE. 
          AND ANYTHING THAT WOULD CUT DOWN SOME OF THOSE BEAUTIFUL TREES AND SHORTEN THE, THE, THE WIDTH OF THE PROPERTY, UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE A, A CRIME TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THIS HOUSE IN AND OF ITSELF IS ADDING SO MUCH TO THE BEAUTY OF THAT PART OF ALPHARETTA. 
          AND I DRIVE UP AND DOWN MAYFIELD TODAY AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM AT THE STOPLIGHT. 
          UH, THERE ARE A FEW CARS IN FRONT OF ME AND, UH, IT TAKES TWO OR THREE TO FIVE MINUTES TO GET THROUGH. 
          IT'S CERTAINLY NOT A MAJOR, UH, TRAFFIC HINDRANCE IN MY OPINION. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS THAT YOU SHARED WITH US. 
          I CAN'T MAKE ANY PROMISES, BUT WE WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION AMONGST OUR LEADERSHIP AND OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED AND WHAT THE OTHER OPTIONS ARE. 
          I CAN'T MAKE ANY PROMISES THAT ANYTHING'S GOING TO CHANGE, BUT I'LL PROMISE YOU THAT WE WILL LOOK AT IT AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO SAVE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAVE AND STILL SERVE THE PUBLIC THAT WE'VE GOT A RESPONSIBILITY TO SERVE. 
          SO IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO COME FORWARD OR IF YOU WANNA REACH OUT TO ANY OF US INDIVIDUALLY, FEEL FREE TO DO SO. 
          MY NUMBER, MY EMAILS ON THE WEBSITE, I WILL RESPOND EVENTUALLY. 
          IT DOESN'T TAKE JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS SOMETIMES TO GET THROUGH MY LEGS, BUT WE'RE RIGHT HERE ALL THE TIME. 
          SO THAT'S THE BEST I CAN DO FOR YOU TONIGHT. 
          I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE TO SIT THROUGH ALL OF THIS MEETING, 'CAUSE I KNOW MOST OF IT MUST ABOARD YOU TO TEARS. 
          THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS COMING FORWARD. 
          WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? OH, SURE. 
          WE'LL GO WITH REPORTS 
          [10. REPORTS]
FIRST. 
          , WHEN YOU GET DONE. 
          YEAH, WELL THESE, THESE, THESE ARE ACTUALLY SOME PRETTY GOOD REPORTS AS THEY'RE WALKING OUT. 
          PLEASE GO TO WELLS PARK SATURDAY, MAY 23RD AT 10 O'CLOCK WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR THE NEW WACKY WORLD. 
          UH, THAT'LL BE THIS SATURDAY, MAY 23RD, 10 O'CLOCK, FOLLOWED BY THIS SATURDAY. 
          MAY 23RD AT NOON IS THE OPENING OF THE WILLS PARK SWIMMING POOL FOR, UH, ALL OF ALPHA. 
          [03:15:01]
SO IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT DAY OVER AT WILLS PARK, UH, WITH ALL THAT COMMUNITY PUT THAT WE HAD, UH, ON WACKY WORLD. 
          AND THEN ON MONDAY, MAY 25TH, UH, RIGHT OUT HERE AT BROOK STREET AT NINE O'CLOCK. 
          STARTING AT NINE O'CLOCK WILL BE THE MEMORIAL DAY TRIBUTE. 
          SO PLEASE, UH, ARRIVE BEFORE NINE O'CLOCK, BRING YOUR OWN CHAIR, BLANKET, FRIENDS AND FAMILY. 
          AND THEN THAT EVENING, UH, ON BROOK STREET PARK, UH, MEMORIAL DAY WILL BE THE, UH, ALPHARETTA SYMPHONY WILL HAVE ITS CONCERT, FREE CONCERT. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION TO, OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION TO 
          [11. EXECUTIVE SESSION (IF NECESSARY)]
RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION BY COUNCILMAN HYPES, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN REEVES. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE YES. 
          COUNCILMAN DRISCOLL? YES. 
          COULD YOU PUSH THAT BUTTON PLEASE? MAYOR WILL BE, IT IS UNANIMOUS. 
          WE'LL BE GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR LITIGATION. 
          THANK YOU FOR CLARIFY. 
          DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECONVENE? SO MOVED. 
          HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PROTI. 
          SECOND BY COUNCILMAN HYPES, ALTHOUGH THAT'S, OH, HE'S GOT CANDY'S MOUTH TOO. 
          HE'S UP. 
          COUNCILWOMAN REEVES. 
          YES. 
          YOU WANT TO COME VOTE SO WE CAN ADJOURN? THE SIGNING IS ACTUALLY INTENDED TO GET ME OUTTA HERE AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RECONVENING VOTE? YES. 
          WE HAVE RECONVENED. 
          DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          COUNCILMAN DORITOS. 
          SECOND BY HYPE HYPES. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNING, PLEASE VOTE YES. 
          AROUND 10 O'CLOCK AROUND HERE. 
          AND IT IS UNANIMOUS. 
          THANK YOU EVERYONE. 
          ALRIGHT.
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