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ALL[1. MEETING ANNOUNCEMENTS]
RIGHT.LET'S START OUR WORKSHOP SESSION.
UM, EVEN THOUGH MY MICROPHONE SAYS CHAIR RICHARD KRAMER.
UH, RICHARD KRAMER IS, IS NOT HERE TODAY.
I GUESS HIS FLIGHT GOT CANCELED 'CAUSE OF THE WEATHER LAST NIGHT.
I'M THE VICE CHAIR I'LL BE FILLING IN TODAY.
UH, WE WILL HAVE FOUR ALMOST BY THE TIME WE GET TO STARTING THE FORMAL MEETING.
SO WE WILL HAVE A QUORUM, BUT WE CAN START OUR WORKSHOP.
SO I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. SCHROEDER TO TAKE US THROUGH WHAT WE SEE TODAY.
[2. WORK SESSION ITEMS]
UM, TWO CASES TODAY WE HAVE WELLS FARGO, UM, ON WINDWARD PARKWAY.IT'S AT THE CORNER OF WINDWARD AND HIGHWAY NINE SITS DOWN IN THE KROGER CENTER THERE.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT CHILI'S OUT ON NORTH POINT PARKWAY.
SO, UM, THIS IS A SITE PLAN FOR, UM, THE WELLS FARGO BUILDING ORIENTATION, STAYING THE SAME WITH THE HIGHWAY NINE, UH, TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
AND, UH, THEY'RE DOING A NEW BUILDING ADDITION OFF TO THE, WOULD BE WHAT THE, UH, SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, I GUESS.
AND THEN GONNA DO SOME NEW LANDSCAPING ON, ON THAT SIDE.
UM, DOT GRACIOUSLY TOOK OUT ALL THEIR PLANT MATERIAL THAT WAS ALONG THERE EARLIER ON.
SO GOT SOME EXISTING PICTURES HERE OF TYPICAL WELLS FARGO.
SO YOU CAN SEE, BASICALLY ADDED ANOTHER BAY HERE IN THIS AREA.
STAFF SORT OF WISHES THEY WOULD'VE WENT TWO STORY, GIVE IT A LITTLE MORE PRESENCE ON THAT CORNER.
ALSO, MAKING SOME, UM, COLOR CHANGES APPEARS TO PAINTING THE BRICK.
THEY'VE GOT, UM, EXISTING PHOTOS.
THESE, I CAN DO SOME, DO YOU WANT LIKE STREET VIEW? I CAN GET THIS BIGGER TOO, SOMEHOW.
SO IT APPEARS THEY'RE PAINTING THE BRICK AND THE PRECAST, RIGHT? UM, YEAH, LET'S LOOK AT THAT.
IT DOESN'T REALLY SEEM TO LINE UP WITH THEIR THINGS.
'CAUSE THAT SAYS P ONE IS VERY DARK AND I WOULDN'T CALL, WELL, I GUESS YEAH.
SO, UM, GAUNTLET GRAY, DORIAN GRAY, AND THEN ORIGINAL WHITE.
SO LOOKING AT THE, AT THE NEW ADDITION, I WAS WONDERING WHY THERE AREN'T MORE WINDOWS.
I WAS TRYING TO LINE THAT UP WITH THE FLOOR PLAN ON THE INSIDE.
SO THIS IS THE DRIVE THROUGH SIDE.
LET'S, LET'S GO BACK UP HERE AND GET THE FLOOR PLAN.
THERE'S OFFICE, RIGHT? I I COULDN'T LINE UP THE WINDOWS WITH THOSE.
I GUESS THE BIG WINDOW SPANS OFFICE SEVEN AND EIGHT.
THE, SO THIS IS THE FRONT YEAH.
SO THEY HAVE ON THE ENDS THEY'RE OFF.
THEIR WINDOWS ARE OFF ON THE SIDES.
OH, THEY GOT THE SIDE WINDOWS.
SO THE BIG WINDOWS, THE TWO MIDDLE AND THEN THE NEXT TWO.
IS THE, UH, IT LOOKED LIKE WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS, THAT STOREFRONT IS GONNA BE THE ACTUAL STOREFRONT ALUMINUM'S GONNA BE PAINTED AS WELL.
IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS LIKE IT TRICO BLACK.
IT'S SAYS BLACK, RIGHT? OH GOD.
SO WHAT THEY'RE ADDING IS GONNA BE BLACK.
WE CAN ASK THEM IF THEY'RE REPLACING WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE AND GOING ALL WITH SOME COLOR
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OR IF THEY'RE JUST COLOR MATCHING THE OTHER, IT GETS REALLY TRICKY PAINTING ANODIZED ALUMINUM AND IT LASTING MORE THAN TWO YEARS.IT'S DEFINITELY A MAINTENANCE ISSUE.
THAT IS, UM, THAT BE A CONDITION, BRETT.
THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT, RIGHT? LIKE, UH, I THINK IT'S A POWDER COATING OR, UH, KINNAR FINISH.
YEAH, MAINTENANCE COULD BE DEFINITELY BE A CONDITION.
UM, DO WE WANT TO, THERE'S THAT WALL HIGHWAY ON.
CAN RECONDITION THAT TOO, TO GO AWAY.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M, I I GET IT.
BUT THEY SHOULD PUT A GUARDRAIL IN WHEN THEY GOT A TENANT LIKE THAT THAT SITS DOWN THAT LOW, THEY SHOULD HAVE PUT IN A GUARDRAIL.
'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA BLOCK SO MUCH LESS.
BUT AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU PUT UNDER A GUARDRAIL? YOU PUT GRASS, WHICH GETS TRASH AND NOBODY MOWS IT.
SO MAY MAYBE THIS IS A LITTLE BIT BETTER GUARDRAIL.
IT IS A VERY EXPENSIVE GUARDRAIL.
SO IS THERE A CHANGE TO SITE LIGHTING? I KNOW THEY HAVE PHOTOMETRICS HERE.
UM, I THINK THEY ARE MOVING BECAUSE THIS POLE, I BELIEVE THAT ONE THEY WON'T ALLOW BECAUSE IT'S IN THE TREE ISLAND UNLESS IT'S EXISTING.
UH, YEAH, THIS IS THE ADDITION RIGHT HERE.
YOU WON'T ALLOW THE ONE
AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S A COMBINATION OF THEIR LIGHTS.
AND SO I'LL NEED TO GET WHAT THEY'RE, UM, 'CAUSE THAT'S A PRETTY BRIGHT INTERSECTION.
'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE, THERE'S NO POLE OUT THERE.
SO THEY COULD POTENTIALLY TURN 'EM DOWN, BUT IF, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
EVEN IF THEY HAD UP FACING THE STREET.
WHERE'S IT THAT WAY? IT SHOULD BE HOT GOING ALL THE WAY THERE AND IT'S NOT.
SO IT, THAT'S, THOSE NUMBERS SEEM A LITTLE ODD TO ME.
WELL THAT'S, I'M I'M WONDERING IF IT'S STREET LIGHTS THAT DOT PUT IN, THAT'S THE SPILLOVER THAT THEY WELL, IT DOES GO.
I MEAN, IS THERE A, IS THERE A LAMP POLE IN THAT ISLAND ON THE, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS, TOWARDS THE BACK END OF THE BUILDING? BACK HERE? NO, RIGHT ON RIGHT THERE.
BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT SAYS THERE'S, YEAH.
'CAUSE IT SAYS THERE'S A POLE HERE.
'CAUSE IT SAYS 5.3 THEN TO FOUR NINE AND TO THREE EIGHT.
SO IT IS DROPPING AWAY THROUGH ME.
SOME, SOME MIGHT BE COMING FROM THE DRIVE THROUGH TOO.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE APPROVING PHOTOMETRICS TODAY? YEP.
OR, YEAH, SO WE'VE GOT ELEVATION MATERIALS, LANDSCAPE PHOTOMETRICS ON THIS ONE.
THAT'S THE SITE PLAN THAT I USED.
AND THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD SLOPE GOING DOWN TOWARDS THEM.
SO WHERE'S THE DOT WALL? RIGHT HERE.
AND IS IT CURVED DOWN BEHIND THAT? IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A CONTINUOUS WALL GOING.
I THOUGHT THERE WAS, BUT THERE.
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LET'S LOOK.STOP STOPS RIGHT BEFORE THE CORNER.
SO I, WITH THESE THREE LIGHTS RIGHT THERE, I'M GONNA GUESS THAT THAT'S, THAT'S OUR PHOTOMETRIC HOT ZONES BECAUSE OF THOSE, THERE'S A LOT OF WEIRD STUFF GOING ON ALONG ALFREDA HIGHWAY.
IT, YES, IT SURPRISES ME THAT IT DOESN'T, DOESN'T GO DOWN.
THEY DIDN'T WANNA MOVE THAT FIRE HYDRANT AND IT MAY HAVE BEEN THAT THEY DIDN'T WANNA MOVE THE FIRE HYDRANT ANYWHERE.
SO THERE'S YOUR TREE AND LIGHT POLE, UH, THING ALREADY.
SO THAT'S GOING TO NEED TO CHANGE.
BUT C IS A CRE COUNT AS A TREE.
SO HERE'S THEIR EXTERIOR MATERIALS.
NOTE THAT THIS ONE IS A METAL PANEL EXISTING BURIED.
VERY DIFFERENT LOOKING CHILI'S.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE EVER SEEN ONE THAT LOOKS EVEN SIMILAR TO THIS.
I'VE SEEN THIS ROUNDED, UH, PATIO AREA AND SOME OTHERS, BUT I, I, THIS WHOLE TOWER THING AND
SO I BELIEVE, UM, THEY'RE GONNA COME TODAY WITH A LITTLE BIT OF LESSENING OF THE COLORFUL, UM, METAL PANELS TO, TO LEAVE BASICALLY STOREFRONT AREA A LITTLE MORE OPEN.
UM, SO WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION THE OTHER DAY.
SO I I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA MOVE FORWARD.
THE OTHER, I, I MEAN IT'S BRAND IDENTITY.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'M SURPRISED THEY BLOCKED ALL THE WINDOWS IN THE, IN THE FRONT, BUT YEAH.
AND THAT AGENT, BUT THERE'S NOBODY SITTING, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S JUST PART OF THEIR, SO YEAH, IT'S LIKE THE ENTRANCE OR ANYTHING.
AND WE'VE GOT ANOTHER SIDE HERE POTENTIALLY TALKING THAT THEY MAY DO A MURAL HERE AS YOU KNOW, THAT'LL GO OVER TO THE ARTS COMMISSION AND THEY'LL GET SOMETHING NICE OVER THERE.
SO THAT'S STONED TO THE RIGHT OF WHERE THEY WERE GONNA PUT THE MURAL.
THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S ALL BEEN COVERED UP.
THAT THAT'S ALL WHAT, TO SOME DEGREE.
THIS LOOKS TO A DEGREE, THIS LOOKS REMINISCENT OF LUCKY DOG AS IF THEY WERE INSPIRED TO COMPETE.
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YEAH.IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ENLARGING THAT, UH, SCREEN WALL TO ENCLOSE THE TRANSFORMER TO ENCLOSE THE TRANSFORMER.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW THE TRANSFORMER SITS OUTSIDE.
HE SEE IT IN THE PICTURE RIGHT BELOW SITS OUTSIDE OF THE ENCLOSURE.
YOU CAN, AS LONG AS YOU'VE GOT, UH, DOOR ACCESS, ACCESS AND CLEARANCE CLEAR SPACE 10.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO HAVE A CLEAR 10 FEET.
WELL, GEORGE POWELL IN THE PAST HAS, HAS ALLOWED SOMEBODY TO SURROUND IT AS LONG AS THERE'S DOORS THAT THEY CAN ACCESS.
SO IT'S NOT LOCKED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, I CAN SEE THAT PHOTO RIGHT THERE.
IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THEY'RE DOING THAT.
I DON'T, I MEAN, THIS IS A MUCH CLEANER LOOK.
SO IF, IF THEY CAN GET IT DONE, GOOD FOR THEM.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS LANDSCAPE'S A LITTLE TIRED OR SOMETHING.
OR JUST, JUST LET IT ROLL A BIT.
THREE, ARE THEY NOT ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ALONG THAT FACADE IN FRONT OF THAT ENCLOSURE? UM, THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO.
I THINK ANYTHING WOULD BE, I THINK, YEAH, JUST SOME, YOU KNOW, EVEN JUST SOME, UH, UH, WHAT DO I WANNA SAY? I DON'T THINK YOU'D, I MAKING IT LOOK THIS NICE.
I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO SCREEN IT GONE, BUT IF YOU ADDED SOMETHING IN THE CENTER OF EACH OF THESE BAYS, I THINK THAT WOULD JUST, JUST SOFTEN IT UP A BIT.
WHAT'S THE
IF IT IS ROCK, IT'LL BE GOING AWAY.
I I THINK WE CAN, I THINK WE CAN GET IT.
SO THERE'S, UH, IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT SKETCH, UH, UH, THE BACK WALL, THE, YEAH, THAT ONE.
ARE THOSE, UH, DOWNSPOUTS AND, UH, COLLECTORS ALREADY THERE? 'CAUSE IT, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT LOOKS LIKE.
YOU CAN SEE AN EXISTING PHOTO ABOVE THAT RETAINING WALL.
LOOKS LIKE YOU CAN SEE THE TOP OF THE DOWN.
I THINK I CAN SEE ONE RIGHT THERE.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW, HOW THE, THE BUILDING CHANGES TO, 'CAUSE THAT THING LOOKS LIKE IT'S HIDDEN RIGHT NOW.
UM, I THINK WE NEED TO, I THINK WE NEED TO ASK, UM, I'M JUST ABOUT BETTING THAT THIS ENCLOSURE'S NOT GROWING TO INCLUDE THAT.
I, I, THAT'S JUST A RENDERING ISSUE.
I THINK IT DOES TURN BACK AND CONTINUE ACROSS.
THAT THEY DIDN'T PUT THE, THE THING BACK IN AND THIS THING EXISTING AND THAT POTENTIALLY THIS A LITTLE FARTHER OVER.
THIS PICTURE'S AT SORT OF AN ANGLE A LITTLE FARTHER OVER PROBABLY.
YOU SEE THIS SCUPPER DROP DOWN THE SIDE AS WE'RE LOOKING STRAIGHT ON NOW WITH RESPECT TO THE TRANSFORMER, CAN, CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S LANDSCAPING AS MUCH AS CODE PERMITS TO SCREEN THAT THING? YEAH.
YOU CAN SEE THE, ON THE ENCLOSURE OR ON THE, UH, THING THERE, THE DOOR ON THIS SIDE.
HOPEFULLY THERE'S ENOUGH DISTANCE THERE.
AND WE'VE GOT, UM, RIGHT ACROSS THE DRIVEWAY FROM THEM.
UM, DAVID AND I WORKED, UH, AS YOU KNOW, ON THE COOP TALK, WE HAD TO MOVE SOME STUFF AROUND AND THINGS OVER THERE BECAUSE OF WHERE THE TRANSFORMER ENDED UP AND DIFFERENT STUFF.
SO WE'VE GOT A GOOD THING THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY TAKE 'EM OVER AND SAY, LOOK AT THAT.
LOOK WHAT HAPPENED OVER HERE AROUND THEIR TRANSFORMER IN THAT ENCLOSURE KIND OF AREA.
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LET'S AWESOME.WE'LL ADJOURN THE WORKSHOP AND BE BACK HERE AT NINE O'CLOCK FOR THE START OF THE FORMAL MEETING.
[3. CALL TO ORDER]
CALL THE JUNE 19TH, 2026 DESIGN REVIEW BOARD TO ORDER.UH, FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS, UH, ROLL CALL.
SO WE HAVE A FEW BOARD MEMBERS WE'RE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND TODAY.
CHAIRMAN KRAMER COULDN'T BE HERE.
I'M FILLING IN AS, UH, CHAIRMAN TODAY.
UM, MR. BA AND MS. SPRAYBERRY COULD ALSO, COULD NOT BE HERE, BUT WE HAVE ENOUGH FOR A QUORUM.
UM, FIRST, NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS LET'S STAND AND FACE THE FLAG FOR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
PLEDGE OF ALL PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY, JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[6. ITEMS FROM STAFF]
ANY ITEMS FROM STAFF TODAY? I THINK SO.ELLIE'S GOT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU WANT TO DO THAT? WANNA DO THAT NOW? OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING.
WE SHOULD DO THAT JUST BEFORE.
JUST REMEMBER TO TURN YOUR MICROPHONES ON AND TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE WHEN YOU SPEAK.
[7. ITEMS FROM BOARD MEMBERS]
HAVE ANY ITEMS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? NO ITEMS FROM BOARD MEMBERS.YOU WANNA DO THE, UH, MEETING PROCEDURE NOW BEFORE WE APPROVE MEETING MINUTES? YEAH.
AND INDIVIDUAL REQUESTING TO BE HEARD ON A MATTER RELATED TO THE PURPOSE OF THE HEARING MUST BE RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR BEFORE ADDRESSING THE BOARD.
UPON RISING TO SPEAK, THE SPEAKER MUST IDENTIFY HIMSELF OR HERSELF AND FURNISH A HOME BUSINESS ADDRESS BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH ANY COMMENTS OR REMARKS.
THE BOARD WILL ALLOW THE PROPONENTS A TOTAL OF 10 MINUTES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF AN APPLICATION.
OPPONENTS WILL BE ALLOWED 10 MINUTES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.
COMMENTS ARE ACCEPTED FIRST FROM THE APPLICANT, FOLLOWED BY PERSON SPEAKING IN FAVOR.
AND THEN FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION, UPON CONCLUSION OF ANY OPPOSING COMMENTS OR PRESENTATIONS, THE CHAIR WILL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO OFFER A REBUTTAL IF ANY TIME IS REMAINING IN THE ORIGINAL ALLOTTED 10 MINUTES.
AND DRB IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
SO THE CHAIR DEFINITELY HAS, UM, DISCRETION TO GIVE MORE TIME IF NEEDED.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE TWO MEETING MINUTES TO APPROVE TODAY.
UM, HAS EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MEETING MINUTES? ALL RIGHT.
SO FOR THE MEETING MINUTES OF APRIL 17TH, 2026, CAN I GET A MOTION? I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES FROM THAT MEETING? SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. OWENS, A SECOND BY MR. CORCO.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? QUICK LOCATION QUESTION.
THOUGH I WAS NOT HERE VOTING ON IT BECAUSE YEAH, YOU CAN VOTE IF YOU WANT.
YOU'RE JUST VOTING AT THE MINUTES.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
FOR THE MEETING MINUTES OF MAY 17TH, 2026, I GET A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION, UM, THAT THE, WE APPROVED THE DRB MEETING MINUTES OF MAY 15TH.
UH, DO I HAVE IT WRONG? YEAH, I GOT A 15TH.
I HAVE MAY 15TH, BUT IT'S IN THE, IT'S IN THE REVIEW BOARD, RIGHT? I BELIEVE IT, IT WAS THE 15, SO MAY 15TH.
UH, SECOND BY MR. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? NO DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
[2. DRB260011 Wells Fargo Bank 12830 Highway 9
review exterior changes]
WE MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING OUR FIRST APPLICANT AS WELL AS FARGO BANK.
IF YOU COULD COME ON UP PLEASE, OR YOU CAN GO TO MY COMPUTER.
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INTRODUCE YOURSELF, UM, AND, UH, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS SURE.AND PLEASE REMEMBER TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.
SO, I'M BART, SERGEANT, I'M WITH THE SAMUEL GROUP ARCHITECTS.
UH, 33 55 LENNOX ROAD, ATLANTA.
AND IF YOU COULD JUST WALK US THROUGH YOUR APPLICATION TODAY.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, MR. SCHROEDER'S GONNA BE DRIVING THE DISPLAY.
HE'S BEEN GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO DO THAT.
SO THIS IS AN EXISTING, UH, SINGLE STORY, 3,700 SQUARE FOOT BRANCH BANK.
UH, IT'S AT THE CORNER OF WINDWARD PARKWAY AND HIGHWAY NINE.
UM, IT HAS A PITCH ROOF AND BRICK FACADES ON ALL FOUR SIDES.
AND OUR PROPOSAL IS, UH, THIS IS ONE OF THE BUSIER BRANCHES IN THE AREA FOR WELLS FARGO.
UM, NOT A LOT OF PRIVACY IN THIS BRANCH.
UM, IF YOU'VE BEEN IN THIS BRANCH, THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN WORKSTATIONS, UH, DUE TO CUSTOMER SURVEYS.
UM, THEY WANNA BRING IN MORE LINES OF BUSINESS AND GIVE PRIVATE OFFICES TO THOSE LINES OF BUSINESS TO SERVE THEIR CUSTOMERS.
UM, SO THAT'S GONNA NECESSITATE A BIT OF AN EXPANSION.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING A 1200 SQUARE FOOT EXPANSION, UM, TO THE PAN, UH, SOUTHWEST THERE.
UM, THAT IS A, A CURRENT, UH, LANDSCAPED AREA.
UM, AS WE WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER, UM, DOT UM, UH, ACQUIRED SOME RIGHT OF WAY FROM US A FEW YEARS AGO, UH, ELIMINATED SOME OF THE PARKING.
UM, AS A RESULT, WE WERE ABLE TO SHORTEN THE DRIVE THROUGH AND, UM, THAT AGAIN, UH, NECESSITATES, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE CAPACITY INSIDE THE BUILDING.
UM, THIS PROPOSAL, UM, INCLUDES, UH, AN EXPANSION OF THE BUILDING, AS I SAID, 1200 SQUARE FEET.
UM, IT IS A ROW OF OFFICES, UM, FOR VARIOUS LINES OF BUSINESS, AS WELL AS A SMALL CONFERENCE ROOM.
UM, BEING THAT THIS IS A, A APPROXIMATELY A 30-YEAR-OLD BUILDING, UM, THE BRICK IS VERY HARD TO MATCH.
THIS WAS ORIGINALLY A FIRST UNION, WHICH MORPHED INTO, WELL, WACHOVIA AND NOW WELLS FARGO.
UM, SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO PAINT THAT BRICK, UM, JUST SO WE'VE GOT A, A FRESHER LOOK, AND WE DON'T, UM, HAVE TO CONCERN OURSELVES WITH MISMATCH OF BRICK COLORS, UM, THAT, THAT, UH, DON'T ALIGN THERE.
UM, THE EXISTING SHINGLED ROOF IS PROPOSED TO BE REPLACED.
UH, WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANY PITCH, UM, ON THAT HIP ROOF, BUT WE ARE REPLACING THE ROOFING WITH A STANDING SEAM, UM, METAL.
UM, IT IS PROPOSED TO BE A, UH, A GRAPHITE GRAY SORT, SORT OF A, A DARKER GRAY CHARCOAL.
UM, THE BRICK IS, UH, TO BE PAINTED, UH, ORIGINAL WHITE.
UM, AS YOU SAW IN THE, IN THE FINISH SCHEDULE THERE, UM, THE GRAY ACCENT BAND THAT EXPANDS OVER THE ARCH, UH, ABOVE THE ENTRY AND ABOVE THE SIDE, UH, GABLE, UM, ACTUALLY USED TO BE A, A PORCELAIN TILE THAT'S BEEN STUCCOED OVER.
UM, IF, IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER BACK THOSE, UH, FIRST UNIONS HAD A, A GREEN, UM, ACCENT BAND THERE, THAT WAS A PORCELAIN TILE.
SO THAT IS OVER THE YEARS, BEEN COVERED UP WITH, UH, GRAY STUCCOS.
SO WE'RE GONNA REPEAT THAT ON THE, UH, EXPANSION.
UM, AND IT GETS A, A NEW, UM, GRAY ACCENT COLOR THERE.
UM, AND SOME OF THE COMMENTARY EARLIER WAS AROUND, UH, THE STOREFRONT CHANGING FROM WHITE, PRE-FINISHED, WHITE TO BLACK.
WE'RE GONNA END UP ONLY HAVING, UH, TWO, UH, WINDOWS THAT AREN'T, UH, TOUCHED AS PART OF THIS EXPANSION.
SO THE PLAN IS TO GO AHEAD AND REPLACE THOSE AS WELL.
SO YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT NEW STOREFRONT WINDOWS TO MIMIC THE OLD, BUT WITH A NEW, UH, BLACK FINISH.
SO THOSE WILL PRE-FINISHED, UH, FROM THE MANUFACTURER.
DO, DO YOU MAKE ANY CHANCE HAVE THE COLOR SWATCHES? I DO.
FOR THESE, COULD YOU, COULD WE PASS THOSE AROUND WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ELEVATIONS? ABSOLUTELY.
AND DO YOU HAVE A ROOF SAMPLE? DO YOU HAVE A ROOF SAMPLE AS WELL? I, UM, I, I DO HAVE THE METAL COLOR.
I DON'T HAVE THE STANDING SCENE.
I WASN'T ABLE TO GET A SAMPLE OF THAT.
UM, YOU COULD START THOSE ON ONE END, MR. CORCO.
I THINK WE HAVE SEEN THESE COLORS A FEW TIMES BEFORE, BUT, UM, JUST TO REFRESH OUR MEMORY.
SO, AND THE, UM, WE HAVE TWO, TWO, UH, THERE'S TWO METAL COLORS HERE.
THERE'S A, A GRAY AND A DARKER
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ONE.WHERE ARE THOSE? SO THE GRAY IS THE ROOFING.
AND IS THE ROOFING? THE BLACK IS THE STOREFRONT WINDOWS.
AND THE, UH, ARE YOU ALSO PAINTING THE GUTTERS AND DOWNSPOUTS, THE GUTTERS, DOWNSPOUTS AND EXTERIOR TRIM? UH, FASCIA AND SOFFITS ARE THE, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S PP ONE, THE GAUNTLET GRAY.
THIS IS THE CORRECT GUTTERS AND G THAT'S THE GUTTERS AND DOWN.
THIS IS THE, IS THIS THE BAND? THIS IS P ONE.
THAT IS THE, UH, THE STUCCO BEHIND THE SIGN LETTERS, YEP.
SO THE DOWNSPOUT GUTTERS ARE THE SAME COLOR AS THE BAND, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE ON THE, THE RENDERING THAT THE, UH, THE GUTTERS AND DOWNSPOUTS MATCH THE STORM.
THEY LOOK LIKE THEY'RE MORE, THEY'RE MORE TRICO AND BLACK.
SO LET ME, IF I'M FOLLOWING YOU CORRECTLY, THIS, THIS COLOR HERE.
THE BAND IS ALSO GONNA BE SORT OF REPRESENT ANOTHER BAND HERE BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE YOUR FASCIA AND ALL THAT RIGHT THERE, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND THEN THESE WILL BE THE SAME.
AND YOU'VE GOT THE WHITE BACKGROUND AND THE BLACK WINDOWS, CORRECT? CORRECT.
HOW, MY QUESTION IS, HOW ARE, HOW DOES THE WINDOWS AND THE ROOF LOOK TOGETHER? IS, ARE THEY, ARE THE SAMPLES SIMILAR ENOUGH THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE CLOSE.
THE, THE ROOF IS, UH, A LITTLE LIGHTER.
I FEEL LIKE THE WAY THAT THE, UH, THE GRAPHIC REPRESENTS, I ALMOST FEEL LIKE THE, UH, THE GUTTERS OR THE GUTTERS AND DOWNSPOUTS ARE THIS, THIS, SORRY, DARK METAL COLOR THAT MATCHES THE STOREFRONT, WHICH KIND OF DIFFERENTIATES IT FROM THE BAND VERSUS KIND OF LOOKING GRIDDED OUT.
I THINK THAT ACTUALLY LOOKS A LOT BETTER.
THE ELEVATION VIEWS SHOW THE GRAYER.
THAT'S WITHOUT THE SHADE AND SHADOW.
A LITTLE MORE, LITTLE CLEARER.
I NOTICED THESE COLORS A DAY OR TWO AGO AT, AT THE BANK LOCATION THAT'S ON OLD MILTON PARKWAY.
AND THEY LOOK, THEY, THEY LOOK VERY PLEASANT.
IS IT THE SAME DESIGN AS THIS, AS FAR AS WITH THE PAINTED BRICK AND ALL VERY SIMILAR? YEAH.
UM, WHICH ONE? THERE IS A WELLS FARGO GOING OUT OLD MILTON PARKWAY IN THE MIDST OF WHERE ALL OF THE MEDIAN DEMOLITION HAS OCCURRED.
SO IT'S, IT'S BEFORE YOU GET TO THE PUBLIX THERE, IS IT RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIX, OR, I MEAN, AT THE COURT? IS THAT THE ONE THAT WE JUST LOOKED AT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO? UH, THAT I DON'T RECALL, BUT, BUT IT, UH, IT DOES USE THE SAME, THESE SAME COLORS.
SO WE MIGHT'VE GOTTEN, WE MIGHT'VE GOTTEN A PAINT JOB WITHOUT REALLY KNOWING IT.
SO ANYWAY, ACROSS THE CITY, ALL THE WELLS FARGOS ARE THIS COLOR OR GOING TO BE, THAT'S THE PLAN FOR A NEW WELLS FARGO? YES.
ANY OTHER CHANGES? ANY CHANGES TO THE DRIVE THROUGH OTHER THAN THAN PAINTING? NO CHANGES ON THE DRIVE THROUGH SIDE.
UH, I KNOW THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION AROUND THE, UM, THE SITE LIGHTING.
UH, WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE SITE LIGHTING.
UH, WE'RE NOT IMPACTING ANY OF THE EXISTING POLES.
UM, THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF BLEED OVER FROM THE GAS STATION NEXT, NEXT TO US, KROGER, UH, GAS STATION, AS WELL AS THE, UM, THE LIGHTS ALONG THE STREET, UM, ALONG HIGHWAY NINE THERE.
UM, SO THE PHOTOMETRICS WAS JUST ADDED BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS? EXACTLY.
SO WE DON'T NEED TO APPROVE THAT.
THEY HAVEN'T CHANGED ANY LIGHTING.
ANY, BEFORE WE GO ON TO LANDSCAPING, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ELEVATION OF MATERIALS? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.
I CAN'T, LOOKING AT THE RENDERING VERSUS THIS 2D, I FEEL LIKE THE 2D
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LOOKS WITH THE, WITH THE GRAY AT THE TOP AS WELL, MIGHT HELP THE BUILDING ELEVATE POTENTIALLY, RATHER THAN BRING THE DARKER FEEL LIKE DOWN THE, IF IF WE WERE THINKING ABOUT, OH, SWITCHING AT THE BACK.POTENTIALLY SWITCHING THIS TRIM TO, TO THE BLACK.
I JUST ME, BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS.
NO, I THINK, I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD.
SCAPE, TAKE US THROUGH LANDSCAPING.
AND I'LL DEFER, UH, TO MY CIVIL ENGINEER ON LANDSCAPING AS WELL.
ALSO, IF YOU COULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US AN ADDRESS.
MIKE THURMAN WITH TRAVIS PRU AND ASSOCIATES.
SO IF YOU'LL BRING UP THE LANDSCAPE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
YOU WANNA SEE WINDWARD PARKWAY? YEAH.
I'M GETTING BEFORE YOU INTO, I KNOW MAG RE TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I DUNNO IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT OR NOT.
GUESS NOT, NOT WITH THAT, UNFORTUNATELY.
THAT'S, THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL SPECIMEN.
WELL, I'M NOT, I'M TALKING FURTHER DOWN THE CENTER, FURTHER THIS, THIS DIRECTION.
WHAT DOES THAT EXIST MATERIAL? I DUNNO IF IT'S, IF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE MATCHES MATERIAL, I THINK THOSE ARE MAPLES.
NOW THIS PARTICULAR, THAT ALL GET NUP, THIS HAS ALL GOT NUKED FOR, UM,
UH, NO, THEY LEFT THE TREES, BUT THE SHRUB, ERY AND ALL THAT GOT REARRANGED AND DONE REDONE.
BUT THE STREET TREES REMAINED.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS A CONDITION THE STREET TREES NEEDED TO REMAIN AND OR BE REPLACED.
LIKE FOR LIKE, BUT I WILL CONFIRM THAT AND IF THIS, I'LL TALK WITH DAVID.
IF THIS TREE SPECIES HERE GOT CHANGED, THEN I, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE, WE POTENTIALLY, DOES DAVID REVIEWED THIS DRAWING YET? UM, I CAN, LET'S SEE, I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.
I DID NOT GET ANY COMMENT FROM HIM.
NO, WE'RE WE'RE HAVING STAFF CONVERSATION HERE REAL QUICK.
BUT, BUT THE, THE THOUGHT IS, IS IS I'M SURE YOU CAN FOLLOW, HE WOULD YEAH, WE, WE SORT OF NUKED THE WHOLE THING OR DOT DID AND TESLA.
SO WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE, LET'S PUT IT BACK TO LOOK SIMILAR.
DAVID AND A GREATER KATHY ARE GONNA HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF ISSUE.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THOSE.
ONE IS PARKING LOT THREE, TWO IS THE GENERAL GENUS OR SPECIES MAPLE.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S, I MEAN WE COULD EASILY SWITCH THOSE OUT IF NEEDED.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I DON'T THINK DAVID LOOKED AT THIS YET, SOME COMMENTS.
WELL ACTUALLY YOU'RE TALKING TONY.
I MEAN IT BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHEN THE DOT WIDENING CAME THROUGH IN TESLA, YOU KNOW, WHITE OUT
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, ALONG WINDWARD CREATE A NICE LANDSCAPE AREA BACK ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
ADDITION IS JUST WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, WE DO HAVE RED MAPLE CALLED OUT, WHICH IS, THAT NEEDS TO BE SWITCHED.
WE CAN, UM, SOME OTHER THINGS.
BUT YEAH, I MEAN YOU CAN SEE THE PLAN, JUST OF NOTE THERE'S A SMALL STORM ORDER, UM, BIO AREA ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE ADDITION JUST FOR WATER QUALITY, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S, IT'S BEHIND THE BUILDING IF YOU CAN SEE ALL I I SAW THAT SECOND.
YEAH, IT'S JUST A SMALL INFILTRATION TRENCH.
AND THEN, AND THE, THE LANDSCAPE TREATMENT OF THAT NEEDS TO BE CURVED OVER THE THELE, I'M ASSUMING THAT CLOSING THE, THE CORRECT.
SO IT'LL BE A SODDED AREA AND THEN YEAH.
SO WHILE I'M ON THIS STREET VIEW SORT OF THING YEAH, LOOK, TALK ABOUT WHAT OF THIS IS GOING TO, OBVIOUSLY IT'S ALL GONNA GET DEMOED, BUT WHAT, WHAT'S GONNA GO BACK OUTSIDE?
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IS IT GONNA HAVE A SIMILAR LOOK WHILE WE'RE ON THIS? YES, YES.SIMILAR LOOK, BUT YEAH, OF COURSE.
I THINK YOU GOT A GOOD LOOK OF WHAT DOT LEFT OVER.
'CAUSE THAT THAT'S, I MEAN THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T PLANT ANYTHING.
SO HERE'S WHAT YOU GOT THERE, MR. CORCO.
UM, THERE IS GONNA BE A SIMILAR LOOK ON THE SRTS, THE HEDGES, BUT NOT THE, YOU KNOW, THE TREES CALLED OUT A RED MAPLE.
WE'VE GOT WASHINGTON, HAWTHORNE, YOU KNOW, SOME UHLAND HOLLY DOWN THAT SIDE.
SO, SO DOES ANY OF THIS NEW LANDSCAPE, DOES IT TIE IN WITH THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE FROM THE SITE ALREADY ON THIS SIDE? IS IT SORT OF MATCH UP THAT'S ON OTHER SIDE? ALL BRAND NEW? UM, YOU TALKING ABOUT A ACROSS WINDWARD? NO, NO, NO.
I'M TALKING ABOUT OH AND THE REST OF THE SITE.
BUT AS IT TIES INTO THE OTHER SIDE, IS IT TIED TO THAT MATERIAL? YES.
THAT WAS GONNA BE A MATURITY ISSUE.
I MEAN THEY'RE, YEAH, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE AS MATURE DAY THAT WE'RE PLANTED.
UM, BUT ALONG WITH BUILDING BASE, THERE'S, THERE'S CAM YOU GOT CALLED OUT.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT VARIETY, BUT THAT'S ON WEST EXPOSURE THAT YEAH.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S HOR IN THE, I DUNNO IF YOU KNOW OR NOT.
IS IT, IS IT A THO THOSE HAWTHORN OR? I'M HOPING THAT IT'S, IT IS.
UM, I ASSUME THAT THE CHIRP IS KIND OF EXISTING LAYOUT NOW, SO IT'S NOT A TWO STEEP OR SLOPE.
UM, TALKED ABOUT STREET TREES.
UM, YEAH, I JUST, I'M NOT SURE THE PARKING LOT IS LAID OUT IN THE BACK TREE PARKING LOT.
I DIDN'T EITHER BACK, CORRECT.
YOUR TYPICAL, ANYTHING THAT GETS DESTROYED OR IS IN BAD SHAPE, WHICH AS WELL HAVE CONDITIONS CORRECT.
UM, CODE REQUIRES A DOUBLE ROAD OF TWO FOOT TALL ALONG ROADS AND DRIVING AISLE.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S JUST A STANDARD FOR HIM.
I DUNNO, WE HAVE THAT SHE PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN KROGER PARKING HAS A FIVE FOOT LANDSCAPE STRIP THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PLANTED WITH THE CANOPY TREE EVERY 50 FEET.
SO THIS IS A PRELIMINARY REVIEW FOR HIM? IT'S A PRELIMINARY.
I MEAN HE'LL GET A FULL REVIEW WHEN IT YOU MOVES FORWARD.
AND WE, AND WE WILL MAKE HIM HAPPY.
SO HE'LL LOOK AT BOTH OF THOSE IN THAT.
NORMAL STUFF, WHICH IS COMPLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S HOW WE WE'LL COMPLY IF, YOU KNOW, AS WE GET THAT REVIEW, THAT'S A NON-ISSUE.
HAVE YOU SUBMITTED FOR L DP? NO, NOT YET.
ANYTHING ELSE ON LANDSCAPING? YOU GUYS DIDN'T DO A PRECON MEETING? I DON'T KNOW.
WE'RE, THAT'S USUALLY WHEN DAVID STARTS COMING OUT.
SO I'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THE YOUNG MAN FROM THERE.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT.
BEFORE WE GET ANY MOTIONS, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS APPLICATION? OKAY.
CAN I GET A MOTION? I'LL DO LANDSCAPE SEPARATE IF YOU DON'T MIND.
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MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, WELLS FARGO BANK, DRB 2 6 0 0 1 1.UM, FOR THE EXTERIOR CHANGES, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE BUILDING, UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
A, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY MR. ROWAN, A SECOND BY MR. CORCO.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? I DID WAS THAT, I MISSED THE FIRST PART.
WAS THAT AS SUBMITTED? AS SUBMITTED AS, YEAH, SORRY.
SHOULD I ADD A CLARIFICATION THAT, UH, THE COLORS SHALL MATCH THE ELEVATIONS, NOT THE RENDERING.
WELL THEY WERE, I I THINK WHAT THEY PRESENTED MATCHED THE, THE LATE MATCH, THE COLORS, THE ELEVATIONS THAT WERE ONIONS YEAH.
YEAH, BECAUSE THEY HAD ALL THE COLORS CALLED OUT.
CAN, CAN YOU RESTATE THE MOTION FOR ME, PLEASE? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, REGARDING DRB 2 6 0 0 1 1, WELLS FARGO BANK, WELLS FARGO BANK, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE EXTERIOR REVISIONS IN ADDITION TO THE BUILDING AS SUBMITTED.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION ON DRB 2 6 0 0 1 1.
UM, THIS WILL, THIS MOTION'S PENDING STAFFORD REVIEW, UM, THAT THE STREET SCAPE TREES, NOTABLY ALONG WINDWARD PARKWAY, SHALL MATCH THE STREET TREE, STREET TREE THEME OF THE REST OF THE CENTER.
UM, REVIEW THE USE OF CAMELIA ON THE WEST, EXPOSURE OF THE BUILDING AND, UM, ANY EXISTING MATERIAL TO REMAIN THAT IS DAMAGED OR DESTROYED SHALL BE REPLACED WITH MATCHING MATERIAL.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. CORCO, A SECOND BY MR. OWENS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
[3. DRB260010 Chili's 7800 North Point Parkway
review exterior changes]
IF YOU COULD, UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US AN ADDRESS AND PLEASE REMEMBER TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.
KRISTEN ROBERTS, 3000, OLYMPUS, COPPEL, TEXAS.
IT'S ACTUALLY DALLAS, RIGHT BY THE DFW AIRPORT.
UM, I WORK FOR BRINKER INTERNATIONAL, REPRESENTING CHILI'S TODAY.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS MR. SCHROEDER'S GONNA DRIVE THE DISPLAY.
AND THEN IF YOU COULD JUST, UH, WALK US THROUGH WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING TODAY.
SO IF YOU HAVE CHANGE WHAT PRICE OF, GOT IT.
UM, IF I COULD, BEFORE I JUMP INTO THAT, JUST A QUICK SNAP OF CHILI'S.
OUR FIRST LOCATION OPENED IN 1975 DALLAS, AND FAST FORWARD A LITTLE OVER 50 YEARS, AND HERE WE ARE.
WE'RE REINVESTING IN MORE THAN 1200 CHILIES TO DO THIS RE-IMAGE FOR THE EXTERIOR.
SO WE ARE, UM, PUTTING ALL ON THE LIST AND APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S CONSIDERATION TODAY.
UH, AS BRETT POINTED OUT THE, UM, MENTION OF THE GRAPHIC PATTERN, UH, A LOT OF THE RESTAURANTS WE ARE, UH, DOING AN A CM CLADDING.
HOWEVER, HERE WITH THE WINDOW OPPORTUNITY, WE'RE DOING A, IT'S A TRANSLUCENT ADHESIVE SO THAT SUN WILL COME THROUGH IT.
SO I HAVE THESE TO PASS AROUND TO GIVE YOU A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.
AND PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PEEL IT SO YOU CAN SEE THE COLOR UNDERNEATH.
AND IF YOU EVEN HOLD IT UP, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT GOES THROUGH, THE LIGHT COMES THROUGH.
SO DO WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE WITH THOSE.
UM, LIKE I SAID, IT HELPED ME PEEL
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IT SO YOU CAN SEE THE COLOR A LITTLE BIT BETTER.UH, AND THEN IS THAT APPLIED TO THE EXTERIOR OR THE INTERIOR? INTERIOR? IT'S APPLIED INTERIOR.
ONE WAY TO REALLY SEE THIS, I PUT IT ON A WINDOW.
IT'LL COME OFF, BUT YOU CAN, IT'S MEANT TO STAY THERE SIX TO 10 YEARS, SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN STICK IT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'D BE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO THE WHOLE WINDOW, BUT I WANTED TO DO THAT.
UM, THE DESIGN MANAGER, I WAS MESSAGING, SHE SUGGESTED EVEN HOLDING, UH, THE LIGHT OF YOUR PHONE BEHIND IT.
JUST, DO YOU, DO YOU ALSO HAVE THIS IN METAL PANEL? WE DO.
AS WELL AS GOING OVER THE WINDOWS.
WE WE'RE NOT COVERING THE, IT WOULD COMPLETELY BLOCK THE WINDOW IF WE, WE DID THAT.
SO, UM, THE CHOICE WAS MADE GIVEN THE, UM, IT'S TRANSLUCENT AND WE WANNA KEEP THE SUNLIGHT COMING INTO THE RESTAURANT TO USE THIS MISS THIS PARTICULAR MATERIAL.
WE'RE NOT USING THIS IN A LOT OF PLACES.
SO IS THIS APPLIED ON THE INSIDE? IT IS OUTSIDE.
I HAVE TO PUT THIS ON THE WINDOW THEN, AND THEN GO OUTSIDE.
FIELD TRIP IS THE, OR YOU CAN EVEN, IS THE EXISTING, UH, GLAZING AT THE ENTRANCE, IS THAT TINTED AT ALL OR IS IT NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
AND TWO, IF YOU, IF SOME, I MEAN, I COULD EVEN KEEP ONE AND SIGN OF MY LIGHT FROM MY PHONE BEHIND IT.
BUT, UM, BECAUSE THAT'LL HAVE AN IMPACT IF IT'S, IF IT'S LIKE BRONZE TINTED OR NO, IT'S NOT.
UM, IF YOU COULD GO TO THE SECOND ONE I SHOWED YOU.
I WANNA SHOW THEM WHERE WE'RE REMOVING.
SO IF THIS IS APPLIED, IS IT DONE LIKE A WALLPAPER, WE MATCH THE PATTERN ALONG THE WAY? OR IS IT LIKE A BLOCK AND THEN ANOTHER BLOCK DOESN'T LOOK THE SAME AND THEN THE BLOCK DOESN'T LOOK THE SAME? THERE'S SIX TI SIX SQUARES, IF YOU WILL, OF DIFFERENT GRAPHICS.
AND SO THEY DO THEM IN A ORGANIZED FASHION.
I DON'T KNOW IS THE BEST WAY TO SAY THAT.
UM, OF THOSE PARTICULAR GRAPHICS.
AND THIS IS OUR, UM, THE ORIGINAL CHILIES.
THIS WAS ON OUR TABLES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND SO THEY'RE BRINGING THAT TO REALLY INTRODUCE THAT EXCITEMENT ON THE EXTERIOR.
UM, DO YOU WANT ME, UM, EXCUSE ME.
SO I WAS TALKING WITH THE DESIGN MANAGER AND I KNOW THAT TRANSPARENCY AND, UH, THE, I KEEPING THE WINDOWS VERY OPEN IS IMPORTANT AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO US AS WELL.
SO SHE AND I WERE DISCUSSING OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE COULD REMOVE THAT VINYL AND OPEN UP A LITTLE BIT OF THE, THE STREET LEVEL, IF YOU WILL.
UM, BACK TO, SO WE'VE REMOVED, WE'RE RECOMMENDING REMOVING WHERE HE'S POINTING OUT RIGHT NOW AND THEN TO THE LEFT.
UM, WE HAD THE ADHESIVE VINYL THERE AND WE'D LIKE TO OPEN THAT BACK UP.
AND THEN ON THE NEXT ELEVATION WE ARE, IS IT HERE? YES.
WE'RE REMOVING IT TO THE RIGHT.
ALL OF THAT IS BEING RECOMMENDED TO TAKE OFF SO THAT IT OPENS UP A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND I'LL BE HONEST, IN THE ORIGINAL ELEVATIONS, IT SEEMED KIND OF OVERKILL AND ALMOST PATCHWORKY WITH IT HERE AND THERE.
I, I THINK IT'S MORE OF AN, A LESSER AS BETTER USED.
YOU CAN SEE THIS IS IN YOUR PACKET.
AND THIS IS WHAT SHE'S SAYING.
SO I GUESS AT NIGHT TOO, LIGHT WILL SH PROBABLY SHOW THROUGH THE MM-HMM
THE WINDOWS AT ABSOLUTELY TOP AS WELL THROUGH THE FILM.
I HAVE A FEELING THIS IS, THIS IS GONNA LOOK VERY INTERESTING AT NIGHT.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING.
YEAH, OUTSIDE I THINK, I THINK THAT'S GONNA LOOK REALLY, 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA, IT'S ALMOST GONNA GLOW THE INTERIOR LIGHTS COMING THROUGH.
WE LIKE, UM, AND I WANTED TO BRING THE CLADDING ANYWHERE THAT YOU SEE THE BROWN OR THE BLUE.
THE REASON I WANTED TO DO THAT AND BRING THIS BLUE IS THAT IT IS NOT THAT BRIGHT OF A BLUE AS IT'S SHOWN ON THOSE 2D RENDERINGS.
AND SO, I, I WANNA BE CAREFUL.
AND THEN THIS IS THE WOOD PANELING CLADDING.
SO YOU CAN SEE HOW, UH, THANK YOU.
AND THEN THESE ARE THE ONLY PAINT SAMPLES PAINT.
I GOT REMINDED OF THAT THIS MORNING.
AND WE'LL WALK THROUGH THE BUILDING.
THEY'RE GONNA WANT YOU TO HOLD THAT UP AND EXPLAIN WHERE THEY'RE, OKAY.
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WHERE'S HOLLYTHERE WAS ALSO TOO, UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING GRAY ANYWHERE.
WE WOULD BE PAINTING WITH THIS, THESE PARTICULAR TWO EXTERIOR GRAYS.
WE HAVE THE LIGHTER AND THE DARKER.
AND I HAVE THESE SAMPLES FOR YOU AS WELL.
SO WHILE WE GOT THESE SAMPLES, WHY DON'T WE JUST OH, SURE.
USE THIS ELEVATION AND JUST WALK US THROUGH THE MATERIALS.
SO THE BLUE IS GONNA BE THE, THE DARK BLUE CLADDING THAT YOU HAVE THERE.
UH, AND THEN THE, UM, WOOD PANELING IF YOU WILL.
IT'S AN A CM METAL CLA CLADDING.
THAT SAMPLE YOU PASSED AROUND.
SO ANYWHERE THIS ROCK IS THE SAME, THAT'S THE EXISTING EXISTING MM-HMM
AND GRAY, WHAT'S THE GRAY MATERIAL? THE GRAY MATERIAL IS GONNA BE PAINT.
CAN YOU MAYBE PASS THE, ABSOLUTELY.
SO THERE'S TWO, TWO EP ON, ON THE DRAWING WHERE IT'S LABELED EP ONE AND EP THREE.
THOSE ARE THE SAMPLES? CORRECT.
YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE PACKING AROUND NOW OR NO? 2, 3, 1.
WELL, THREE IS THE DARK, THREE IS THE
YOU HAVE A DARK, THERE'S THE, THE DARK ONE IS, YEAH.
THESE, THESE ARE LABELED DIFFERENTLY THAN THE DIAGRAM.
BUT THE DARKER ONE IS WHAT'S SHOWN IN THE DIAGRAM IS EP THREE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
AND I DO NOT HAVE THE LIGHTEST OF THE LIGHT.
IS THERE AN EP TWO OH DOWN BELOW THE WINDOWS THERE.
AND THAT'S OVER EXISTING MASONRY, CORRECT? CORRECT.
WELL, I GUESS I'M WONDERING ARE THESE LABELED INCORRECTLY OR ARE THESE LABELED CORRECTLY? WELL, THE STICKS, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT THE BACK OF WHAT MAY I COME UP MAY? YEAH, SURE.
THE DRAWING SAYS EP TWO IS TIM.
LIZZIE, THAT'S THE WHITEST ONE.
SO WHAT'S THIS ONE? WHAT'S THIS? WRITE IT ON THERE.
SO WE HAVE, WE DO, WE HAVE ONE AND WE HAVE ONE AND TWO.
YOU SAID IT IN THE, I KNOW
SO THAT'S A DARK, VERY DARK GRAY.
WE'VE SEEN IRON ORE A FEW TIMES BEFORE.
AND I UNFORTUNATELY DO NOT HAVE A SAMPLE OF THAT.
SO THERE'S NO STRUCTURAL OR BUILDING FOOTPRINT CHANGES.
I KNOW WE HAD DISCUSSION OF THE BACK WHERE THE TRANSFORM IS.
THAT'S JUST THE 2D RENDERING AS THAT'S JUST THE RENDERING.
AS BRENT POINTED OUT, WHAT IS ON THE, THE CENTER TOWER? WHAT'S IN THE, UNDER THE SOFFIT? WHAT, WHAT'S THAT MATERIAL? IS THAT CHANGING FROM WHAT IT IS TODAY? NO, IT IS NOT CHANGING AND I'M NOT CERTAIN OF THE MATERIAL.
WHAT IS IT? UM, I WAS, THE ACTUAL PHOTO LOOKS LIKE A RIB METAL PANEL.
NOT A CM BUT SEVEN 800 NORTH POINT PARKWAY.
LOOKS LIKE IT'S A METAL PANELING POSSIBLY.
SEE WE HAVE GOOD LANDSCAPING IN THE FRONT.
THE BUILDING AREA IS PRETTY DECENT.
THE ROAD WILL HELP IN THAT BACK.
IT SAYS THE, THE GRAY COLORS DOING DON'T LOOK TOO MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY.
SO I THINK THIS IS A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF, OF MORE WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE WITH JUST THAT, JUST THAT ACCENT UP IN HERE.
YOU'RE ONLY GONNA SEE IT, I GUESS, RIGHT HERE? OR DID YOU? NO.
YOU REMOVED ALL OF THAT DOWN BELOW, CORRECT.
SO THIS IS ALL REMAINING, RIGHT? THE ACCENT WILL JUST BE UP HERE.
CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT OF COURSE.
THE, UH, THE PY LASTER, THE WC TWO ON THE FRONT BUILDING TO THE LEFT OF THE DOORS.
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UH, BROWN SAMPLE.IS THAT, SO THAT EXTERIOR MATERIALS BEING REMOVED AND THE METAL PANELS GONNA BE APPLIED THERE.
THE BROWN METAL PANELS, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, IT'S BEING APPLIED TO WHAT'S THERE OVER IT OR OVER IT.
AND IT VERY WELL I, DEPENDING ON THE CONDITION AND IF IT WILL ACTUALLY ADHERE TO THAT, THEY MIGHT PULL, PULL THAT, WHAT'S ON THERE OFF.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO TREAT THE TRANSITION AROUND THE CORNERS.
AND RIGHT NOW THEY, THERE'S A VERTICAL TRIM PIECE, BUT THE DRAWINGS LOOK LIKE IT JUST EXTENDS AROUND.
LIKE IF THERE'S GONNA BE CORNER, UH, CAPS OR WHATEVER, KIND OF LIKE WITH THE CLOUD, WE WON'T TAKE IT AROUND A CORNER.
UM, SO WHERE YOU SEE, DO WE HAVE THE RE IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE, I WAS LOOKING AT THE ELEVATION RENDERINGS ON THE ELEVATIONS.
IT WOULD JUST BE A SOLID, IT WOULDN'T WRAP.
AND THEY'RE JUST GONNA MIRE COMP DO COMPOUND MITERS AND STUFF TO, 'CAUSE IT'S ANGLED.
AND IT'S ALSO, UM, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
I, I KNOW THAT HAD THE DISCUSSION WITH THEM BEFORE I LEFT AND IT WAS THAT IT WAS, WE, WE DON'T WRAP IT AROUND.
IT JUST HAS THE HARD, IT JUST HAS HARD STOPS.
IT'S REALLY, THAT'S A REALLY TOUGH DETAIL
UM, SOMETHING YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IN, UH, SOME KIND OF CORNER TRIM OR SOMETHING.
'CAUSE THAT COULD BE LOOK REALLY NOT GREAT IF IT'S, IT'S A REALLY TOUGH DETAIL TO, TO DO.
IS THE, IS THE ROOF CHANGING AT ALL? NO.
SAME SH WHAT ARE THE SHINGLES TODAY ON THE ROOF? BRETT, CAN YOU PULL THE STREET VIEW UP ON THAT? ALL RIGHT.
IT'S KIND OF LOOKS GR GRAY, I GUESS.
ACTUALLY I THINK THE ROOF WILL GO BETTER.
WAS THE ROOF GRAY OR BROWN? OKAY.
IF WE JUST, YOU KNOW, QUICKLY LOOK AT THE OTHER ELEVATIONS.
SO I GUESS MATERIALS HERE ARE, NOW THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LABELS ARE, ARE FAIRLY OBVIOUS.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE ON THIS SIDE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT P TWO AT ALL.
YOU JUST GOT P ONE AND P THREE.
AND WHAT'S FOUR? FOUR TRICORE BLACK.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST FOR THE COPING AND THE YEAH, THE LADDER.
SO THE GRIZZLE GRAY IS BASICALLY GONNA BE THAT ENTIRE BACK.
I'D ALMOST FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS A, LIKE A CAP.
I WANT LOOK AT THE, LET'S LOOK AT THE STREET VIEW OF IT.
YEAH, THERE'S A METAL CAP ON THERE.
SO YEAH, SO I THINK AT THAT METAL CAP EP FOUR.
SO ME, SO JUST THE, JUST THE METAL CAP THAT'S EXISTING.
OR REVERT TO THE NEWER, NEWER BLACK OR WHATEVER.
OKAY, SO THAT'S, THIS IS THE, UH, OPPOSITE ELEVATION LIGHT FIXTURES REMAINING.
AND THE LADDER DOESN'T REALLY STICK UP LIKE THAT.
IT LOOKS STRAIGHT FORWARD AND THEN IT'S THE REAR ELEVATION DOWNSPOUTS ARE EP FOUR ALSO.
SO PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING, THE WHOLE BACK IS EP ONE
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EXCEPT FOR THE, THE TRIM AND THE DOWNSPOUTS.I THINK JUST REPLICATE WHAT YOU'VE GOT GOING ON ON THE TOP PART OF THE BUILDING.
YEAH, JUST BRING THE EP FOUR FOUR DOWN.
BRING IT DOWN TO THIS, YOU KNOW, SAME THING, THE DARK TRIM TOP.
SO SEE HOW IN, IN THE, THIS PART OF THE BUILDING, DARK TURN TOP, JUST ALL, I THINK WE'VE HIT ALL THE ELEVATIONS.
ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ELEVATION OF MATERIALS? AND WE'RE NOT REALLY LOOKING AT LANDSCAPING, BUT EARLIER THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT LANDSCAPING ON THIS.
YOU HAD SOME COMMENTS ABOUT LANDSCAPING ALONG THE, SOMETHING ALONG THE SCREEN WALL.
WELL, I, I THINK STAFF WILL LIKE, LIKE WE MENTIONED IN THE, IN THE MEETING, WE'LL JUST HAVE STAFF LOOK AT IT AND THERE'LL BE THAT CAVEAT IN THERE OF, OF ADDING WHERE NEEDED.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHEN THEIR PICTURE THAT THEY USED GOT GOT TAKEN.
THERE'S OBVIOUSLY SOME MORE LANDSCAPING NOISE IN THAT PICTURE THERE, BUT WE CAN EVALUATE IT.
AND THE TRAIN, I MEAN THE, THE LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE ON THIS SITE IS WAY, WAY, WAY OVERDONE,
I DON'T KNOW WHAT CONTROL YOU HAVE OVER THAT, BUT YOU NEED TO TAKE THE SHEARS OUT OF THOSE GUYS' HANDS AND JUST LET THE PLANTS BE THE PLANT AND THAT THING TO THE RIGHT FAR.
I MEAN, WHAT IS THAT? AND THEN ALL THESE LITTLE SHAPES OF THINGS AND YOU KNOW, THE MELON BLOWERS ALWAYS SEEM TO, EVERYTHING'S GOTTA HAVE A SHAPE AND NATURAL IS NOT.
IT'S GOTTA HAVE A FLAT TOP OR ROUND TOP.
SO THERE IS, THERE IS UH, SOME LANDSCAPING AGAINST THAT ENCLOSURE.
YEAH, IT COULD BE, IT COULD, COULD BE OLDER THAN WHAT THREE PERHAPS.
I'M SURE THEY'VE MAINTAINED THOSE.
WHAT I COULD DO, I'M HEADING OVER THERE TO LOOK AT A RECOMMENDATION FROM BRETT COOPERS HAWK, UH, TO SEE WHAT THEY'VE DONE AROUND THEIR TRANSFORMER AND ALSO LOOK AT OUR EXISTING LANDSCAPING.
AND WE'LL CONNECT WITH, UM, BRETT AFTER THIS WEEK AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
'CAUSE I DO KNOW THAT LANDSCAPING IN THAT BACK AREA WILL GET CONDITION AND HE AND I DISCUSSED THAT.
THAT'S THEIR TRANSFORMER AND THEIR AREA BACK THERE.
SO ALL THOSE, ALL THOSE THINGS RIGHT THERE THAT ARE SHAPED LITTLE BALLS, THOSE ARE GRASSES THAT BEEN CUT BACK.
AND I'M SURPRISED THEY DIDN'T CUT BE.
WELL THERE'S, I'M, I'M SURE ANOTHER COUPLE YEARS, HALF OF THOSE GRASSES ARE GONNA BE GONE.
IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE BEAST.
SO WE'LL JUST INCLUDE, WE'LL INCLUDE A CONDITION FOR STAFF TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THE LANDSCAPING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE, I GUESS WE PROBABLY DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS SINCE THERE'S NO ONE IN THE, NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE.
UM, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN REGARDING DRB 2 6 0 0 1 0, UH, CHILI'S.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE EXTERIOR CHANGES, UH, AS PRESENTED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
UM, THE APPLICANT, UH, WILL UTILIZE THE EP FOUR, UH, COLOR ALONG THE, UH, COPING AT THE REAR, ENCLOSURE AT THE REAR ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING.
AND THE APPLICANT WILL ALSO, UH, UH, HAVE THE, UH, LANDSCAPING, UH, SPECIFICALLY ALONG THE REAR ELEVATION, UH, TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY STAFF BASED ON THE CURRENT, UH, CONDITION OF, UH, THE LANDSCAPING.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. ROWAN, A SECOND BY MR. OWENS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION THERE? NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
ALRIGHT, SO THEN, UH, NEXT, OUR NEXT MEETING IS JULY 17TH.
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YES SIR.IT'S PRETTY, THERE'S ABOUT SEVEN.
I LIKE THE IDEA THAT THERE SIGN ALL I THAT YOU GUYS PULLED SOMETHING FROM ORIGINAL TABLE.
ALRIGHT, HEARING UH, NO FURTHER BUSINESS AND NO OBJECTION FROM FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.