* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] ALL RIGHT. GOOD [1. MEETING ANNOUNCEMENTS] MORNING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA DESIGN REVIEW BOARD WORKSHOP SESSION. TODAY IS FRIDAY, JULY 17TH, 2026, AND AT THIS POINT, I'LL TURN THE [2. WORK SESSION ITEMS] MEETING OVER TO MR. SCHROEDER TO WALK US THROUGH OUR APPLICATIONS THAT WE'LL BE HEARING DURING OUR PUBLIC HEARING STARTING AT NINE O'CLOCK THIS MORNING. SO, BRETT, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. UM, OKAY, FIRST ONE WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA THIS MORNING IS JIFFY LUBE ON SOUTH MAIN STREET. UH, WE'RE DOING SOME NEW SIGNAGE. UM, SO THEY'RE, THEY'VE GOT WALL SIGN, THEY'RE GONNA DO BOTTOM PICTURE'S NEW. SO THIS WAS EXISTING, THIS WILL BE NEW. AND THEN WE'VE GOT A MONUMENT SIGN, UM, DOT DEMOED THEIR MONUMENT. SO THEY'RE COMING BACK FOR A NEW, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THE SIGN VENDOR AND HE SHOULD BE BRINGING SOME DIMENSIONAL ASPECTS TO THIS, UH, LITTLE AREA HERE WHERE THE SIGN'S BEING SHOWN SO THAT WE CAN TELL JUST ABOUT EXACT MORE EXACTLY HOW BIG IT IS. SO, AND THEY ARE PLANNING ON, UH, REAL BRICK, A REAL BRICK BASE. OKAY. SO JUST SIGNAGE FOR THAT APPLICATION. JUST SIGNAGE FOR THEM. OKAY. YEP. AND THEN WE'VE GOT LITTLE ALLEY STAKE, WHICH IS COMING BACK FOR, UM, AND LET ME SWITCH THIS. THEY ARE BACK FOR, UM, ENCLOSING THE PATIO AREA WITH WINDOWS AND A SIGN. SO THIS IS NOT IN YOUR PACKET. I GOT IT LAST NIGHT. UM, DURING OUR, UM, DURING MY WORKSHOP WITH THE CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN, WE TALKED AT THE, THE GLASS ON THE WINDOWS OR THE GLASS ON THE PATIO AREA NEEDED TO HAVE SAME OR SIMILAR GRIDS TO WHAT THE, THE REST OF THE BUILDING DOES. SO, UM, I TALKED TO THEM, THEY WENT AHEAD AND, AND FIGURED THAT OUT AND THEN ADDED IT TO THE IMAGES HERE. SO, UM, COMPARED TO WHAT YOU SEE IN YOUR PACKET, I THINK THIS IS A MUCH BETTER, MUCH BETTER VIEW. ALSO, UM, I GOT, THERE WAS A INDICATION ON THE PLAN FOR A NEW FRONT DOOR, SO WE TALKED THAT THROUGH AND, AND, UM, SINCE I'M SEEING SALVAGED HERE, I BELIEVE WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO IS THE ACTUAL FRONT DOOR THAT IS CURRENTLY THERE THAT WHEN YOU WALK IN THE LITTLE PATIO AREA, IT'S TO THE LEFT TO GO IN. THEY'RE JUST GONNA BRING THAT DOOR TO THE FRONT, CLOSE THAT SPOT OFF AND BRING IT RIGHT TO THE FRONT. SO, SO WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING, I BELIEVE IS GONNA BE THE ACTUAL DOOR THAT'S THERE CURRENTLY, JUST MOVED INTO A DIFFERENT SPOT. AND THEN THEIR SIGN HERE IS THEIR, THE ONE SIGN THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY PROPOSING. THEN WE HAVE, UH, CSI THE BUILDING AT, UM, 25 80, 25 80. I THINK IT'S 25 80 WEST SIDE PARKWAY. UM, IF YOU TOOK A DRIVE OUT THERE, THE, UH, OFFICE COMPLEX ACROSS THE STREET, UM, PAINTED AND DID SOME LANDSCAPING UPDATES, PROBABLY THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT. I THINK THEY MIGHT HAVE DONE SOME LANDSCAPING EARLIER AND POTENTIALLY JUST DID THE PAINTING. BUT ANYWAY, UM, THEY BASICALLY PAINTED AN ALL WHITE. UM, SO WE TALKED TO THESE FOLKS, UM, ABOUT POTENTIALLY DOING SOME CHANGE. THIS BUILDING HAS, UM, TWO SORT OF ENTRANCE AREAS, UM, ON THE BUILDING, AND I DON'T HAVE IT. THEY HAVE TWO OF THESE. UM, AND SO WE TALKED TO THEM AFTER OUR PRE-MEETING ABOUT DIFFERENTIATING [00:05:01] THIS WITH A SHADE OR TWO DARKER COLOR, AND THEN MAINTAINING THE REST AND POTENTIALLY PAINTING THE BASES OF ALL THE COLUMNS, THE SAME DARK GRAY THAT THEY'RE USING IN A COUPLE OTHER PLACES, LIKE THE COPING. AND THEY'VE GOT, UM, YOU SEE SOME AREAS HAVE THESE LITTLE, UM, SORT OF FAUX HEADERS. UM, THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE PAINTING THOSE THAT SAME DARK COLOR, SO THEY'RE USING THAT COLOR ALREADY. SO WE JUST BASICALLY ENCOURAGE THEM TO PICK A COLOR TO HIGHLIGHT THIS AND SORT OF, SO YOU, INSTEAD OF HAVING ONE CONTINUOUS WHITE BUILDING, YOU'VE GOT BASICALLY, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THREE BUILDINGS OR TWO BUILDINGS. AND BRETT, THERE'S ACTUALLY MORE THAN JUST TWO OF THESE. I MEAN, THERE'S TWO ALONG WEST SIDE PARKWAY, AND THEN THERE'S AT LEAST ANOTHER ONE DOWN THE SIDE, DOWN THE SIDE. SO, I MEAN, TO ME, I WOULD, AND THEN THERE'S SOME IN THE BACK. YEAH. TO ME, I WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T BOTHER ME IF THEY JUST PAINTED EVERYTHING WHITE, BUT THE FRONT, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S SORT OF, BUT IF TO, FOR THEIR CONSISTENCY, IF THEY, YOU KNOW, OR YOU GUYS WANT TO HAVE THEM DO 'EM ALL THE WAY AROUND, THAT'S THE PREROGATIVE. AND NEXT WE HAVE SAPPORO. SAPPORO IS TAKING OVER THE, UM, ON THE BORDER BUILDING, DAVIS DRIVE AND MANSEL ROAD. THEY'VE ALREADY DONE SOME WORK OUT THERE. THEY'VE DONE, UH, PRETTY EXTENSIVE INTERIOR REMODEL, UM, AND DONE SOME, SOME EXTERIOR STUFF THAT THEY BASICALLY NEEDED TO DO SOME REPAIRS AND SOME THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY'VE TAKEN OFF THE, THE, UM, AWNINGS AND THINGS THAT WERE THERE. I THINK PART OF THAT WAS TO GET SOME REPAIRS DONE AS WELL. BUILDING WAS, WAS IN PRETTY ROUGH SHAPE. SO THEY'RE PROPOSING COMING FORWARD, AND THESE ARE SOME GOOD IMAGES OF WHAT IT USED TO LOOK LIKE, SORT OF STRAIGHTENING OUT THE BUILDING A LITTLE BIT. UM, I THINK IT'S A PRETTY GOOD LOOK. IT'S PRETTY FAIRLY STANDARD, BUT I THINK, I THINK IT'S A, I THINK IT'S A DECENT LOOK. AND I REMEMBER FROM SOME OF YOU MAY NOT, BUT, UM, I REMEMBER FROM, FROM YEARS BACK, WE ALWAYS, EVERY TIME THIS BUILDING WOULD COME IN, WE ALWAYS STRUGGLED WITH HOW THIS ROCK LOOKED. IT JUST, IT WAS ALWAYS JUST SORTA, YEAH. JUST WASN'T. AND I FEEL LIKE WITH THE, WHAT THEY'VE, THE OTHER MATERIALS THEY'VE BROUGHT IN AND THE VERY SIMPLE LINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I THINK IT REALLY HELPS THE LOOK OF THE ROCK SORT OF BLEND IN A LITTLE BIT WITHOUT COVERING IT UP OR PAINTING IT OR SOME OTHER CRAZY IDEA. WELL, IT KIND OF SIMPLIFIES THINGS. THEY'VE KIND OF SIMPLIFIED A LOT OF THE EXTRA MATERIALS TOO. SO, AND, AND, AND I THINK WHEN IT WAS THE, ON THE, WHEN IT WAS THE, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON ON THIS BUILDING. YES. AND I THINK THAT WAS PART OF, OF WHAT WE ALWAYS STRUGGLED WITH IS THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF MOVEMENT IN THE ROCK TOO. SO I THINK THIS JUST REALLY, UM, REALLY DOES IT, WE TALKED IN OUR PRE-MEETING, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT THE, UM, I THINK WE EITHER NEED TO TURN THESE INTO THE EYEBALLS, LIKES ON THE SPEAR IN LAS VEGAS AND GET 'EM MOVING AROUND DOWN MANSEL ROAD OR POTENTIALLY JUST, UH, HAVE THEM REMOVED. AND, AND ONE THING ABOUT USING STONE, THE WAY THAT YOU MENTIONED IT IN THE PREVIOUS PHOTOGRAPH, IF IT'S ROUND ROCK AND YOU STACK IT, IF YOU FIND ROUND ROCK IN NATURE, IT'S NOT STACKED. RIGHT. IT'S IN THE CREEK BED. SO THEY'VE MOVED TO SOMETHING HERE. THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH, I AGREE. WELL, IT'S GOOD TO SEE A BUILDING BEING, UM, REPURPOSED OR REFURBISHED RATHER THAN JUST MAKE IT, MAKE IT YES, YES, YES. I AGREE. AND I HEARD YESTERDAY THAT, UH, MILLER'S ALE HOUSE HAS A NEW TENANT, SO, OH, UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING MUCH TO THAT BUILDING. IT'S NOT ON A CORRIDOR OF INFLUENCE, BUT WE HAVE SEEN IT IN THE PAST. SO WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT, WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO WITH THAT. BUT I, I HEARD THAT IT'S GOT A NEW TENANT AND IT JUST POPPED IN MY MIND. YOU ARE GONNA SEE A LOT OF LANDSCAPING STUFF. IF YOU HAPPEN TO GO TO SAM'S OR UP DAVIS DRIVE, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF LANDSCAPING THINGS HAPPENING AT DAVIS DRIVE OR AT SAM'S. UM, MR. SHOSTAK AND I ARE, ARE WORKING HARD TO MAKE THAT PARCEL LOOK BETTER. SO [00:10:01] IT STRUGGLED. WELL, NOW THAT DAVIS DRIVE HAS THAT CONNECTION BACK THERE. YEAH. IT'S GETTING MORE VISIBILITY WEST SIDE. YES. YEAH. THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC AND SO FORTH. YEAH. UM, IS THE, I'M SORRY, BRETT, GO IF YOU, SO IS THE, UH, THE CAMPFIRE THAT'S ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, IS THAT CONSIDERED A SIGN? THAT'S A SIGN, YES. OKAY. YEAH. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE ENTITLED TO TWO. UM, ALRIGHT. WELL IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR SIGN ON THE MAIN BUILDING ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. YES, I BELIEVE SO. AND THEY'VE GOT THEIR, UH, MONUMENT SIGNS KIND OF NEARING COMPLETION. I DON'T KNOW. UM, I DON'T KNOW THE INTENT, IF THEIR INTENT IS TO TRY TO BUTTON UP THE BUILDING, GET IT OPEN, AND THEN DO SOME, SOME MORE OF THIS EXTERIOR STUFF. UM, BECAUSE THEY, THEY, THEY WANTED, THEY HAD THEIR SIGNS DONE A MONTH OR TWO AGO. UM, THAT WAS THE FIRST THING. AND THEN, THEN WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD THAT THEY WANTED TO DO SOME EXTERIOR CHANGES TOO. SO I'M NOT REALLY UP ON THE SCOPE OF, OF OPENING THE BUSINESS. ARE THEY PLANNING TO DO THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S SHOWN HERE? I DON'T THINK SO. NO. I THINK THIS IS JUST A RENDERING. OKAY. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING MUCH AT ALL WITH THE LANDSCAPING. THEY'VE GOT SOME STUFF THEY NEED TO REPLACE. UM, BUT, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING A NEW PLAN. AND THEN WE HAVE A MASA, UM, MEXICAN KITCHEN THAT'S TAKING THE JEKYLL BREWERY, UM, LOCATION OUT FRONT. AND THEY'RE DOING, UH, TWO FAIRLY SIMPLISTIC, WELL, ONE FAIRLY SIMPLISTIC SIGN AND THEN ONE A LITTLE MORE, LITTLE MORE TO IT. SO THIS IS ON FACES THE PARK, UM, IT IS THE AMSA PART, AT LEAST IN THIS PLAN, IS SHOWN TO BE, UM, HALO ILLUMINATED. THE REST OF IT IS JUST A LAYERED, UM, LAYERED SIGNAGE. AND THEN THE, UM, PERPENDICULAR SIGN ON THE ACADEMY STREET SIDE, SORRY, I COULDN'T GET THAT UP. UM, ON THE ACADEMY STREET SIDE, UM, THE BUSINESS OWNER AND THE SIGN GUY AND MYSELF TALKED PRETTY EXTENSIVELY THROUGH THIS SIGN AND HOW TO, HOW TO MAKE IT MORE THEIRS. UM, SO THERE ARE A FEW THINGS AND, AND THESE PICTURES, I CAN'T REALLY GIVE YOU A WHOLE LOT, BUT THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT HE'S GONNA, UM, THE OWNER'S GOING TO, UM, TALK THROUGH YOU, BUT THIS BACKGROUND THAT'S HERE HAS GOT SOME VERY DISTINCT MEANING TO HIM. IT'S A PATTERNED BACKGROUND AND IT'S GOT SOME, SOME QUITE DISTINCT MEANING. AND THEN I BELIEVE THE SIGNED GUY HAS FIGURED OUT HOW THIS LITTLE LOGO CORN OBJECT ON THE TOP, I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS TIRE TOP THAT OBJECT NOW. WOW. SO I THINK THAT'LL THAT. AND HE, I BELIEVE HE'LL HAVE SOME BETTER PICTURES OF THAT. UM, THAT ALL I THINK REALLY, UH, SET IT ALL OFF. AND THEN I BELIEVE HE'S GONNA MOVE THE AMSA HERE AND POTENTIALLY PUT THE MEXICAN ON THE END OF THE SIGN, WHICH ACTUALLY FACES ACADEMY STREET WHERE JEKYLL HAD THEIR, UM, JUST A ROUTED OUT. ARE, ARE THEY KEEPING THE, UH, ARE THEY KEEPING THE SIGN BOXES FROM JEKYLL TOTAL AND JUST REFACING THEM OR BASICALLY, OKAY. YES. OR BASICALLY, OR THEY'RE KEEPING THE STRUCTURE OF THE SIGN, THEY'RE KEEPING THE STRUCTURE OF IT. UM, AND, AND JUST REUTILIZING THAT, SO THIS GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT, SO THE STRUCTURE, THIS, THIS PLATE IN THE CENTER ON THE, ON THE JEKYLL SIGN IS INDEPENDENT FROM THE OUTSIDE. SO THAT'S HOW THEY'RE ABLE TO, TO CHANGE THAT PRETTY EASILY. AND THEN, UM, THIS TOP IS, UH, IS DIFFERENT. SO IF Y'ALL REMEMBER BACK WHEN WE DID THE, UH, DOWNTOWN SIGN DESIGN GUIDE, WE HAD, UM, A SIGN COMPANY ON THERE. UH, AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVE WAS, UM, PATTY, I CAN'T THINK OF HER LAST NAME NOW. UM, PATTY'S COMPANY, UM, MADE THIS SIGN FOR JEKYLL. AND THEY, THEY REALLY MAKE SIGNS SO THAT YOU CAN WORK ON THEM. UM, SO, SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS TOP WILL COME OFF PRETTY EASILY AND, AND GET SOMETHING NEW PUT UP THERE AND NOT REALLY, YOU WON'T EVEN KNOW IT THAT THAT WAS THERE. SO, AND I THINK THAT ESSENTIALLY, IS THAT IT? I THINK SO, [00:15:03] YES. THAT'S IT. OKAY. UM, ANY QUESTIONS? WE'VE GOT 15 MINUTES. IF YOU GOT SOMETHING YOU WANT ME TO GO BACK TO. SO FOR A MASA OR A MASA KITCHEN, ARE THEY DOING ANYTHING TO THE EXTERIOR, I MEAN TO THE ROOFTOP OR ANYTHING? NO, UM, JUST SO IT'S JUST SIGNAGE. JUST SIGNAGE? YEP. OKAY. VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT. SO, SO FOR JIFFY LUBE, WE'VE GOT SIGNAGE FOR LITTLE ALLEY STEAKHOUSE, WE'VE GOT THE, THE PATIO ENCLOSURE AND SIGNAGE FOR CSI LABS IS THE EXTERIOR PAINTING. YEP. FOR SAPPORO, WE'VE GOT, UM, EXTERIOR CHANGES. YEP. EXTERIOR CHANGES, SIGNAGE. SIGNAGE HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. AND THEN WE'VE GOT SIGNAGE FOR AMASA KITCHEN. YEP. OKAY. STRAIGHTFORWARD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, LET'S ADJOURN THE WORKSHOP SESSION AND WE'LL BE BACK HERE AT NINE O'CLOCK TO START OUR PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. GOOD [3. CALL TO ORDER] MORNING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA'S DESIGN REVIEW BOARD PUBLIC HEARING. TODAY IS FRIDAY, JULY 17TH, 2026. GLAD TO SEE EVERYONE HERE THIS MORNING. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS, UM, ROLL CALL. AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE, WELL, ALMOST EVERYBODY PRESENT. MR. BAME IS NOT HERE THIS MORNING. AND, UM, SEE, MR. CORPORAL IS NOT, BUT WHAT GOT TOM BA. MR. LAANE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING. MY PLEASURE. AND WELCOME BACK, JENNIFER SPRING BERRY. SO GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. SO THANKS FOR BEING HERE. OKAY. UM, JUST A GENTLE REMINDER, IF YOU'LL SILENCE YOUR ELECTRONIC DEVICES FOR US, PLEASE. AND LET'S STAND TO FACE THE FLAG AND WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH STANDS. ONE NATION. DEAR GOD, INVISIBLE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT. NEXT [6. ITEMS FROM STAFF] UP, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS FROM STAFF THIS MORNING? ANYTHING FROM STAFF THIS MORNING? JUST REMEMBER TO, UM, TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE WHEN YOU SPEAK. 'CAUSE I, I COULDN'T HEAR SOME OF YOU LAST MONTH. AND ALSO I JUST WANTED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW ABOUT AARON, WHO'S FILLING IN FOR JOEL. JOEL GOT GO. JOEL'S IN IT NOW, SO SHE'S FILLING IN FOR US TODAY. THANK YOU. YES, JOEL IS ON THE WEST COAST RIGHT NOW AT A CONFERENCE, SO GOOD FOR HIM. BUT GLAD TO SEE YOU, AARON. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE FROM, FROM STAFF BRETT? ANYTHING? I DON'T, UM, I DON'T THINK SO. OKAY. ALRIGHT. [7. ITEMS FROM BOARD MEMBERS] ALRIGHT. ANYTHING FROM BOARD MEMBERS THIS MORNING? AGAIN, WE'LL WELCOME MS. SPRAYBERRY BACK TO THE BOARD. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. UM, AND I WANNA THANK FRANK SWING FOR FILLING IN FOR ME LAST MONTH. SORRY I MISSED, MISSED IT, BUT HAD A LITTLE CHALLENGE IN GETTING BACK FROM A FAMILY MEMORIAL SERVICE. THE WEATHER DIDN'T COOPERATE, UH, FOR ME TO GET BACK HERE IN TIME. SO, FRANK, THANK YOU FOR RUNNING A VERY EFFICIENT AND QUICK MEETING LAST MONTH. . OKAY. YOU HAVE BIG SHOES TO FILL. OH, THERE'S ALWAYS . LAST MONTH. LAST MONTH WENT. OKAY. UM, SPEAKING OF LAST MONTH, HAS EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE, UM, DRAFT MEETING MINUTES FROM OUR JUNE 19TH, 2026 MEETING? I ASSUME YOU HAVE. UM, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE SUCH? PLEASE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETING MEETING MINUTES FROM, UH, JUNE 19TH. OKAY, OWEN. SECOND. ALRIGHT, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. ROWAN, A SECOND BY MR. OWENS TO APPROVE THE JUNE 19TH, 2026 DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEETING MINUTES. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOTION THERE? BE NONE. I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE JUNE 19TH, 2026 DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEETING MINUTES PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. ALL OPPOSED NO OPPOSITION MINUTES OR APPROVE? SIX ZERO. ALRIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALRIGHT. ON TO NEW BUSINESS THIS MORNING. OUR FIRST APPLICANT IS JIFFY LUBE. CAN I JIFFY LUBE READ THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCEED? YES, PLEASE DO. ELLIE, WHILE THERE YOU CAN COME ON UP WHILE SHE'S READING SOME PROCEDURAL THINGS FOR US. THANK YOU. [1. Announcement of Public Hearing Procedure] AN INDIVIDUAL REQUESTING TO BE HEARD ON A MATTER RELATED TO THE PURPOSE OF THE HEARING MUST BE RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR BEFORE ADDRESSING THE BOARD. UPON RISING TO SPEAK, THE SPEAKER MUST IDENTIFY HIMSELF OR HERSELF AND FURNISH A HOME OR BUSINESS ADDRESS BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH ANY COMMENTS OR REMARKS. THE BOARD WILL ALLOW THE PROPONENTS A TOTAL OF 10 MINUTES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF AN APPLICATION. OPPONENTS WILL BE ALLOWED 10 MINUTES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. COMMENTS ARE FIRST ACCEPTED FROM THE APPLICANT, FOLLOWED BY PERSON SPEAKING IN FAVOR. AND THEN FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION, UPON CONCLUSION [00:20:01] OF ANY OPPOSING COMMENTS OR PRESENTATIONS, THE CHAIR WILL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO OFFER REBUTTAL IF ANY TIME IS REMAINING IN THE ORIGINAL ALLOT TO 10 MINUTES. DRB IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT 'CAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS TO REVIEW. SO THE CHAIR HAS DISCRETION TO ALLOW MORE TIME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ELLIE FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. [2. DRB260012     Jiffy Lube     207 South Main St Review signage] OUR FIRST APPLICANT THIS MORNING IS JIFFY LUBE. GOOD MORNING. WELCOME. UM, IF YOU'LL WALK US THROUGH WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH, UH, WITH YOUR BUILDING TODAY, PLEASE. IF I, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, IF YOU'LL INTRODUCE YOURSELVES FIRST AND THEN YOU CAN WALK US THROUGH PAUL. I'M THE OWNER, AS OWNER, THIS LOCATION. OKAY. SHOULD BE THAT. YEP. THERE YOU GO. THERE WE GO. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? THERE WE GO. IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT. UM, PAUL LEBO, UM, I, UH, ACQUIRED THIS JIFFY LUBE ABOUT 12 MONTHS AGO. UM, ALONG WITH THE OTHER LOCATIONS IN IN TOWN, UM, THAT ARE OURS NOW. WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH AND RE-IMAGING THESE, UH, THIS ONE AND ONE OTHER THAT'S INCOMING. BOTH HAD, UH, BOTH WERE AFFECTED BY STREET WIDENING. UM, HAD THE SIGNS REMOVED, THE PREVIOUS OWNER WHO WAS IN A DIFFERENT STATE WAS IN NORTH CAROLINA JUST NEGLECTED OR COME BACK AND REPLACED THE SIGNS. SO, UH, WERE GOING THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS RIGHT NOW IN FORSYTH COUNTY. UM, BUT IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE OBJECTIVE IS TO PUT A, ANOTHER, A NEW PRIMARY SIGN IN THERE. IT HAS, HAS, UH, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IT HAS EFFECT BUSINESS. UM, AND, UH, SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS. YES. WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE GLAD TO SEE DOT FINALLY FINISHING UP SOME OF THE ROAD WIDENING AND SIDEWALK WIDENING THAT'S HAPPENING, ALTHOUGH SOME OF THE OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY ARE STILL BEING AFFECTED, SO. OKAY. SO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE DOING A NEW, UM, BUILDING SIGN, NEW BUILDING SIGN. YES. AND ALSO THE, UH, A NEW MONUMENT OUT FRONT. OKAY. SO THE NEW TELL, TELL US ABOUT THE NEW BUILDING SIGN WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW. I'M GONNA LET THIS GENTLEMAN, UH, I'M DYLAN YOUNGBLOOD. I'M WITH THE SIGN COMPANY, CLAYTON SIGNS. OKAY. UM, SO WE'LL BE, UH, REPLACING THE EXISTING CHANNEL LETTERS WITH NEW, UM, HALO LIT LETTERS. UM, SO LET'S SEE. IT'S ON THE SCREEN. OKAY. THERE'S ANOTHER, THERE'S THE, UM, THERE'S THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST YOUR NORMAL, YOU KNOW, ALUMINUM, ALUMINUM LETTER WITH THE, WITH THE HALO LIT, YOU KNOW, THAT SHINES OUT IN THE BACK. SO, AND THE, THE, UH, THE FACE IS WHITE? CORRECT. OKAY. ARE YOU ELIMINATING THE FACE STAND? THAT FACE STAND RETURNS WILL BE WHITE, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE LETTER. ARE YOU ELIMINATING THE, UH, THE EXISTING RACEWAY? YEAH, THE RACEWAY WILL GO AWAY. THESE WILL BE INDIVIDUALLY MOUNTED. DO DO YOU THINK THERE'S GONNA BE ANY ISSUES, UH, WITH EXISTING HOLES THAT ARE FROM THE NO. OKAY. YEAH, IF THERE IS, WE GO IN AND, AND WE CAN CAULK THE HOLES AND, AND, UH, MATCH IT, YOU KNOW, MATCH THE BRICK COLOR. OKAY. SO THEY TEND TO DISAPPEAR ON THE BRICK. YEP. AND SO, UM, GO BACK, IF YOU'LL GO BACK TO THE, UH, THE EXISTING VERSUS THE NEW SIGN FOR US. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO, AND YOU'RE ALSO REMOVING THE MULTI-CARE CORRECT. SIGN, CORRECT. FROM THAT MM-HMM . OKAY. THE, UH, THE LOGO'S BACKLIT AS WELL, THE LOGO AND THE LETTERS. YES SIR. EVERYTHING'S BACK LIT. IT'S ON, WE'RE ADDING SOME NEW SECONDARY SIGNAGE DIRECTIONAL, WHICH ARE, YOU'LL SEE OVER HERE, UM, IDENTIFIED AS B TWO, WHICH ARE EXIT ONLY, JUST SO YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE DRIVING IN FROM THE FRONT. AND THERE'S SIMILAR ON THE BACK THAT JUST SAYS WELCOME. YEAH, I THINK THOSE ARE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT'S, IT'S ALMOST LIKE GOING BACK TO YOUR, YOUR BUILDING SIGN. IT'S ALMOST LIKE IF YOU COULD, THERE'S NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE A LITTLE BIT, I GUESS BETWEEN THE, THE WORDS JIFFY LUBE NOW AND WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO DO. MM-HMM . UM, IT'S ALMOST LIKE IF YOU COULD CUT THAT SIGN IN HALF, LEAVE THE JIFFY LUBE THERE AND JUST PUT THE NEW LOGO ON THE LEFT SIDE. BUT, UH, I GUESS THAT'S A DIFFERENT, UH, A DIFFERENT BALL OF WAX. UM MM-HMM. OKAY. AND THESE ARE GOING THE HALO BIT TOO. YES. SO THAT'S, THAT'S AN IMPROVEMENT, RIGHT? YEAH. AND NO RACEWAY. NO RACEWAY AND NO RACEWAY. YEAH. YEAH. AND I, I BELIEVE THIS, THIS BUILDING'S BEEN HERE, COINCIDENTALLY, MY FIRST LOCATION WAS IN ALPHARETTA. I LIVE IN ATLANTA, BUT MY FIRST LOCATION WAS IN, UH, ON STATE BRIDGE WAY IN ALPHARETTA BEHIND THE SHELL. UH, BUT SO I WAS, BECAME A BUSINESS OWNER IN ALFREDA 24 YEARS AGO. UM, BUT THIS LOCATION'S BEEN THERE FOR AS LONG [00:25:01] AS I'VE MM-HMM . UM, SO I WOULD, I WOULD GUESS 30 YEARS OR SO MM-HMM . AND, YOU KNOW, FORTUNATELY IT'S BRICK, SO IT, IT DOES NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP, BUT IT DOES WEAR PRETTY WELL. OKAY. ALRIGHT. LET'S, UH, LET'S LOOK AT YOUR MONUMENT SIGN NOW, PLEASE. IT'S, IT'S A GREAT IMPROVEMENT. , THAT WAS A GOOGLE MAP IMAGE, SO IT WAS KIND OF, I'VE TOOK SOME MORE PICTURES TODAY. YEAH. THAT SIGN IS ACTUALLY, I THINK THE EXISTING ONE'S LEANING EVEN MORE. OH MY GOD, YES. YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. I HOPE YOU PUT A LOT OF MONEY IN FOR, UH, DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTENCE. , THERE'S, THERE'S THE BRIGHT SIDE. I COULD HAVE IT OUT WHEN WE LEAVE HERE. , WHEN YOU GIVE US THE GO. YEAH. BASICALLY THE NEW ONE WILL BE PUT BACK TOWARDS THE PARKING LOT, UM, JUST TO ALLOW THE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE SETBACK. AND I WENT OUT THERE AND TOOK SOME MEASUREMENTS THIS MORNING. UM, SO HOW MUCH SPACE DO YOU HAVE IN THAT GRASSED ISLAND AREA RIGHT NOW? WHAT'S THE, I GUESS WHAT'S THE WIDTH, FOR INSTANCE, VERSUS THE FIVE FEET? I BELIEVE? YEAH, IT'S, IT, IT'S FIVE FEET WIDE, BUT HOW DEEP IS IT THEN? UH, IT WAS, IT'S ABOUT 15. IT'S ABOUT 15 FEET DEEP. I IMAGINE. LET'S SEE, MY NOTE, BECAUSE THAT PICTURE DOESN'T SHOW THE ACTUAL ISLAND AS IT IS THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT. I'M SORRY. YEAH. HERE'S ANOTHER, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ROUGHLY 15 FEET FROM THE, FROM THAT BACK, BACK CURB TO THE EDGE OF THE SIDEWALK. AND IS THERE, UM, DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE SETBACK LINE IS OF WHERE THE SIGN CAN GO? UM, I MEASURED IT OUT WHEN WE PUSHED THE SIGN BACK AND, UH, MAKING TO, AND CHANGING THE BRICK TO THE SIX FOOT. UM, IT'D BE ABOUT 124 INCHES FROM THE EDGE OF THE SIDEWALK. UM, SO A LITTLE, LITTLE OVER 10 FEET AND 24 FROM THE RIGHT AND THEN 24 FEET TO THE CURB, LIKE TO THE EDGE OF THE CURB ON THE, AT, AT THE ROAD. SO FROM, SO THERE'S AMPLE SPACE FOR CARS TO BE ABLE TO LOOK LEFT WHEN THEY'RE PULLING UP, RIGHT? YEAH. IF YOU PUT, PUT IT FAR UP, YEAH. THAT SIDEWALK IS LIKE EIGHT FEET WIDE OR SOMETHING. IT'LL BE, IT'LL, IF YOU CAN SEE MY MOUSE, IT'LL STOP RIGHT ABOUT THERE. SO THEY'LL HAVE ALL THIS AREA UP HERE. THE VEHICLE WILL BE WELL PAST THAT ONE. THAT'S IT. MM-HMM . TURNING UP. UM, I FEEL LIKE THE SIGN COULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT, THE MONUMENT SIGN COULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CHARACTER TO IT. I FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST A, JUST A KIND OF A, ALMOST A SLAB I'LL CALL IT. MM. I, I WAS THINKING THE SAME. UM, YEAH, I HATE TO SAY I LIKE ANYTHING ABOUT THE OLD SIGN BETTER, BUT I LIKE THAT THERE'S A FRAME ON IT. WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE OLD, OLD SIGN THAT WAS THERE, IT WAS A NICE, PRETTY BIG BRICK, UM, BRICK MONUMENT SIGN. MM-HMM . THAT WAS THERE. UNFORTUNATELY, I KNOW DOT KIND OF TOOK CARE OF THAT, BUT, UM, I MEAN, EVEN LOOK AT THE SIGN THAT AS WALGREENS, IT HAS A NICE BRICK BASE TO IT WITH KIND OF A CABINET ON TOP OF IT. I, I THINK IT GIVES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CHARACTER THAN JUST SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN KIND OF JUST, JUST PUT IN THE GROUND THERE. WHAT IF THEY, UH, THEY PULLED IN THE, THE METAL OR STAIN STEEL STRIP IN LIKE, BY JUST A COUPLE OF INCHES TO JUST KIND OF BREAK UP THE, THE BOX A LITTLE BIT? I, I COULD SEE THAT TOO. AND MAYBE, MAYBE THE BRICK BASE HAS A CAP ON IT OF SOME SORT BEFORE THEN THEY, BEFORE THEY PUT THE CABINET SIGN ON TOP OF IT. SO JUST, JUST, WE CAN ALWAYS WIDEN THE BRICK BASE, YOU KNOW, SO IT'D BE SIX INCHES PAST THE CABINET ON EVERY SIDE AS WELL. I THINK THAT WOULD, IT'S KIND OF LIKE SITTING ON A YEAH. WITH, IT'S SITTING ON A BASE WITH A, WITH A, WITH A CAST, WITH A CAP ON THE BRICK. CAP ON THE BRICK. I UNDERSTAND. LIKE A SOLDIER COURT, LIKE A, A SOLDIER COURSE OR SOME SORT OF, UM, OKAY. UM, AND THEN I THINK TOO, IT'S, IT, IT, WE ALWAYS REQUIRE, UM, SOME SORT OF BASE LANDSCAPING EVERGREEN OR SOME SORT OF LANDSCAPING AROUND THE BASE OF THE SIGN. DO YOU HAVE ANY PREFERENCE IF WE HAVE FIVE FEET? 12? SO WE'D HAVE ABOUT TWO FEET ON EACH SIDE OF THE SIGN. SO JUST A SMALL A PLANTING BED. PUT SOME LANDSCAPING IN THERE. IT LOOKS NICE TOO. OKAY. WE'RE DOING THAT IN A, NOW PART OF THE CHALLENGE BECOMES TOO, I NOTICED THAT'S SLOPES FROM THE SIDEWALK TOWARDS YOUR BUILDING THAT SLOPES DOWN. SO YOU KNOW HOW YOU, HOW YOU MANIPULATE THAT OR WORK THAT? I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE. YEAH. THE, THE, THE BRICK MASON WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S LEVEL, HE WOULD JUST, THE SIDE IS CLOSEST TO THE BUILDING WOULD JUST BE BUILT UP A LITTLE BIT MORE. OKAY. SO IT HAS A, SO IT'S LEVEL. DO YOU KNOW, CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? DO YOU KNOW BASED ON WHAT, AND MAYBE YOU DO, BASED [00:30:01] ON WHAT, IS THERE CURRENTLY, DID THEY CHANGE THE BACK EDGE OF THAT CURB? I BELIEVE SO. OR IS THAT WHERE IT WAS? I'M LOOKING AT AN OLDER PHOTO AND I'M JUST, I'M WONDERING IF THEY, DID THEY, DID THEY TAKE ANY LENGTH IN OF THOSE PARKING SPACES OUT FRONT? IT DOES LOOK LIKE THAT. YEAH. YEAH, THEY DEFINITELY DID THOSE PARKING SPACES. I WAS THERE THIS MORNING. THERE'S NO SPACE. THERE'S NO SPACE THERE. SO THEY LOOKS LIKE THEY, THEY SHRUNK THAT UP. OKAY. THE PREVIOUS SIGN. BUT WITH THAT , YEAH, THAT'S QUITE, I THINK WHAT WE'D, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS SOME ROOM BOTH AT THE SIDEWALK AND AT THE BACK EDGE OF THE CURB LANDSCAPING TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BASE OF THE SIGN. OKAY. SO DON'T, WE DON'T WANNA SET IT RIGHT AT THE BACK EDGE OF THE CURB. UM, I'LL WORK WITH YOU ON, ON DISTANCE TO THE, TO RIGHT AWAY IF WE NEED TO. YEAH. SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO, I MEAN, WE DON'T, THE BOARD DOESN'T WANT YOU TO PUT A REAL BRICK BASE IN THERE AND THEN HIDE IT. SO YEAH. SOMETHING, MAYBE ONE OF OUR TWO LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS COULD OFFER SOME SORT OF A, A EVERGREEN THING THAT COULD GO AROUND THERE. THAT WOULD STAY WHAT, EIGHT, 12 TO 18 INCHES? LIKE A DWARF, SOME SORT OF DWARF HOLLY OR SOMETHING, OR, YEAH, I THINK MAYBE ONE OF THE DWARF HOLLY'S A, A STOKES YON OR A HOEN DORN, UM, LUKE AND LAUREN. OR, AND OR JUNIPER. YEAH. SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? JUNIPER. JUNIPER AND DORA JUNIPER. OKAY. BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T GET AS TALL AS SOME WOULD GET. DO THEY NEED, WOULD THAT NEED LA UH, IRRIGATION THEN OR SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY, I IMAGINE THERE'S NOT IRRIGATION THERE NOW, SO PROBABLY NOT. IT WOULD BENEFIT FROM IRRIGATION, BUT THEY CAN, THEY'D NATURALIZE OVER TIME. SO AFTER THEIR ESTABLISHMENT PERIOD, IF WE JUST KEPT 'EM WATERED, MAYBE BY HAND THEY SHOULD ESTABLISH AND, AND BE PRETTY HARDY. OKAY. TIMING WISE, WE'LL BE GETTING THROUGH THE, SOME, ACTUALLY PLENTY OF WATER RIGHT NOW, BUT YEAH, I WOULD WAIT TO DO YOUR PLANTING UNTIL FALL. WINTER. WELL, IS D IS DOT FINISHED IN THIS AREA NOW? I THINK THEY'RE FINISHED FAR ENOUGH THAT HE CAN START ON HIS SIGN. I THINK THEY'RE, I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT FINISHED. NO, BUT I THINK THE SIDEWALK IS THERE. THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE THEY'RE MOVING. THEY'RE, THEY'RE MOVING STREET SIDE NOW. SO IF THE SIDEWALK'S IN, I THINK THEY'RE PRETTY WELL DONE WITH YOUR SIDE AS FAR AS TOWARDS YOUR BUILDING. SO YEAH, YOU COULD, YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND DO THE SIDE. OKAY. BRETT, WOULD YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE IF WE DO KIND OF A CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL THAT YOU, DO YOU LOOK AT THE FINAL APPROVAL OR IF YEAH, IF THEY COME UP WITH A SKETCH THAT YOU CAN SAY YES OR NO? YEAH. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I CAN MEET THEM, YOU KNOW THEM OUT THERE AS WELL. WHEN WE GET READY TO, WE WANNA STAKE IT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, GIVE THE BRICK MASON A HIS, YOU KNOW, THEY GO BY STAKES. THEY DON'T LIKE TO NECESSARILY JUST GUESS IT. YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT. DID YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE ON BRICK OR DO YOU WANT US TO MATCH THE BUILDING AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE? PROBABLY IF YOU CAN TRY TO MATCH THE BUILDING, YOU PROBABLY CAN'T MATCH IT, BUT YOU CAN PROBABLY GET SOMETHING FAIRLY CLOSE. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT SIGN IS AWAY FROM THE BUILDING. IT'S NOT UP NEXT TO IT. RIGHT. SO YOU CAN'T REALLY, SO YEAH, IF YOU CAN GET SOMETHING, I IMAGINE GET SOMETHING FAIRLY CLOSE TO IT, IT'S, IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVEN IF IT'S A TINY BIT OFF, IT'LL STILL STILL BE GOOD. I GUESS. I DIDN'T SAVE ANY BRICK FROM THE OLD SIGN. . YEAH, . THEY DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT. I SAW THOSE SIGNS COMING DOWN. THERE'S, THERE WAS NO, NO SAVING. OKAY. OKAY. ONE MORE COMMENT ON, ON THE MONUMENT SIGN. I THINK ONCE YOU ENLARGE THE BASE, UM, I THINK IT WOULD LOOK GOOD TO HAVE A, A WHITE FRAME AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF THE SIGN. AND I JUST NOTICED THAT FROM THE, UM, REALLY NICE TEMPORARY SIGN. THE, UH, I, I THINK THE WHITE FRAME AROUND IT LOOKS GOOD. AND, AND ONCE YOU HAVE A WIDER BASE, THEN YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING FOR THE FRAME TO KIND OF MEET AS IT COMES DOWN ON THE SIDES. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA HOW TO DO THAT? JUST IT DOES GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT OF THE, WE CAN IT ALL BE PART OF THE CABINET? YEAH. I, I THINK THE, THE CURRENT SIGN LOOKS VERY, IT LOOKS A LITTLE MORE ON THE MODERN CONTEMPORARY SIDE. AND I, I THINK WITH THE WIDER BASE AND A FRAME ON IT, IT'LL SORT OF FIT THE CHARACTER OF SORT OF IN THE, THE SILVER. WOULD IT DO OH, IN THE SILVER. DO YOU WANT THAT REMOVED? WE CAN, CAN TAKE THE SILVER AWAY, THE PENNZOIL AND THE SILVER. WE CAN TAKE IT THAT AWAY. YEAH, I'M OKAY. THE SILVER, I THINK IF YOU HAVE, HAVING THE SILVER IN THERE INTRODUCES SOMETHING THAT'S SORT OF REPRESENTATIVE OF A MACHINE LIKE COLOR AND YOU WORKING WITH MACHINES IN YOUR, IN YOUR, IN YOUR FACILITY, UH, IT GIVES YOU THE CLEAN SPARK TO IT. OKAY. HELPS TRANSITION FROM THE MASONRY TO, TO, TO THE, [00:35:01] THE PURPLE OR MAROON SIDE. . BUT I, I THINK THAT THE, THE FRAME SHOULD BE ON ALL FOUR SIDES, LIKE MAYBE TWO INCHES OR SO AT LEAST. UH, AND THEN WRAP THE SIDES OF IT. WOULD WE, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE DESIGN YET, BUT WOULD YOU BE OPEN IF WE PUT THE SILVER AROUND IT TO KEEP MAYBE IF THAT, IF WE CARRY THAT ALL THE WAY AROUND IN A FRAME, I THINK THAT WOULD, RATHER THAN HAVING MULTIPLE MATCH SILVER. OKAY. WE, AND WE'LL LOOK AT BOTH AND JUST SEE. YEAH, WE CAN JUST MAKE SURE IT WRAPS THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE END OF THE SIGN. THE END, YEAH. AND YOU SEE A TWO INCH OR SO FRAME AROUND IT. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE GOOD. OKAY. UM, BEFORE WE GET TO ANY MOTIONS OR ANYTHING, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THIS APPLICATION? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO. NO PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. SOMEBODY WANNA CRAFT A MOTION? I, UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, REGARDING D RRB 2 6 0 0 1 2, JIFFY LUBE, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE THE BUILDING SIGN AS SUBMITTED AND MOTION TO APPROVE THE MONUMENT SIGN WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. UH, THE BASE WILL BE ENLARGED WITH A CAP WITH THE BRICK TO MATCH THE BUILDING AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE. THERE WILL, THE APPLICANT WILL ADD A SILVER OR WHITE FRAME AROUND THE SIGN, WRAPPING THE END OF THE SIGN AS WELL. UH, APPLICANT WILL ADD EVERGREEN LANDSCAPING AT THE BASE AND, UH, FINAL LOCATION, APPROVAL BY STAFF. AND A MOTION. SECOND. OKAY. A MOTION BY MR. SWING. I SECOND BY MR. ROWAN. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOTION THERE BEING NONE? I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. ALL OPPOSED NO OPPOSITION. MOTION PASSES. SIX ZERO. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JUST ONE QUESTION. DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS AT ALL IF WE REMOVE THE PENNZOIL? JUST DEPENDING ON HOW THE DESIGN LOOKS OR JUDGE? NO. THOUGHTS. ONE OR ANOTHER. DO YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION, , DO YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THEM AS A SUPPLIER OF YOUR MATERIAL? UH, F TWO WEEKS AGO, WAS ACQUIRED BY AS A NEW OWNER. SO IT'D BEEN A, IT HAD BEEN, UH, OWNED BY SHELL FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS AND SHELL OWNS PENNZOIL. SO THINGS ARE CHANGING WITH IT. IT WAS A REQUIREMENT, BUT WITH THE NEW OWNER, I THINK THAT, UH, IF YOU'RE GONNA DO THE SILVER FRAME AROUND IT, I THINK THAT THE PENNZOIL LOGO ON THE FRAME IS A LITTLE ODD, YOU KNOW? UM, BUT IF, YEAH, SO I DON'T, UM, BUT IF YOU NEED TO, IF YOU'RE REQUIRED TO DO IT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN MOVE IT UP INTO THE FIELD, WE'LL FIND OUT ON THAT. BUT IF WE'RE NOT, I THINK IT WOULD CLEAN IT UP AND LOOK VERY NICE JUST TO HAVE THE FRAME. YEAH, I AGREE. I AGREE. OKAY. SO, WE'LL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. VERY [3. DRB260013     Little Alley Steak     102 South Main St Consideration of exterior changes and signage] GOOD. NEXT, OUR NEXT APPLICANT THIS MORNING IS LITTLE ALLEY STEAKHOUSE OR LITTLE ALLEY STEAK I SHOULD SAY. COME ON UP. COME ON DOWN. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. WELCOME. GOOD MORNING. ROBERT SAPO WITH AKA STUDIO. WE'RE THE ARCHITECTS THAT DID THE REMODEL AS IT IS TODAY, AND MOVING FORWARD TO DO THE SIGN AND THE PATIO, UH, CHANGE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. OKAY. STICK. UM, BRETT, DO I START WITH THIS LINE OR THE ENCLOSURE? OR EITHER, EITHER WAY. IT DOESN'T, WHICHEVER WAY, HOWEVER YOU WANNA START. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEEDED EXTRA HARD COPIES OF THE, WHAT WE'RE DOING. YEAH, IF YOU'VE GOT SOME ACTUAL SAMPLE MATERIALS, THOSE WOULD BE GOOD TO PASS IT AROUND. UM, NOT OF THE SIGN, BUT OF THE PATIO PART. OKAY, WELL THAT'S FINE [00:40:01] TOO. YEAH, WHATEVER YOU WANT. I THINK IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL SINCE THEY'RE, IT'S CHANGED FROM WHAT'S IN THE PACKET AS FAR AS THE WINDOW GRIDS AND STUFF. SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE. ALRIGHT. YEAH, LET'S SEE. THE NEW, THE NEW, UH, SO SHOULD I SKIP TO THE PATIO FIRST OR DO THE SIGN FIRST? THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. SO WHAT, UH, MR. SCHROEDER IS PASSING OUT IS THE KIND OF YOUR REVISED ELEVATIONS, I GUESS, OR REVISED PLANS? YES, SIR. OKAY. DON'T YOU, UH, IF YOU'LL WALK US THROUGH THESE THEN PLEASE. SO WE'RE ENCLOSING THE PATIO OKAY. WITH LIKE CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN MATERIALS SO THEY CAN USE THAT, UH, ALL SEASONS BASICALLY, UH, WITH SLIDING GLASS WINDOWS WITH, UH, WINDOW MILLIONS TO MATCH THE DESIGN OF THE ADDITION THAT WE DID TO THE LEFT. UH, THE MILLIONS WOULD BE BETWEEN THE GLAZING BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SLIDE PAST EACH OTHERS IF THEY'RE OUT POURED. AND WE'RE UTILIZING THE SAME MATERIALS AND THE SAME CONSTRUCTION STYLE AND EVERYTHING TO MATCH, THERE'S AN EXISTING ROOF THAT WILL BE BUILDING UP UNDERNEATH AND DYING THE WALLS UNDERNEATH INTO. AND WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANY OF THE OCCUPANCY OR THE SEATING OR THE TABLES JUST BASICALLY MOVING THE DOOR TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING VERSUS IT BEING KIND OF, IF YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS NOW, OFF TO THE SIDE WHERE THE VESTIBULE WAS IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN AND WE'RE UTILIZING THE SAME DOOR, WE'RE GONNA REHANG IT AT THE FRONT. SO ON THE BOTTOM LEFT, UM, WE HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE DOOR. IT DOESN'T LOOK PERFECT, BUT THAT'S THE ACTUAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE DOOR. WE'RE USING SALVAGED DOOR, WE'RE JUST GONNA REHANG IT AT THE FRONT. AND THIS IS ALL WITHIN THE PAST, HOW OLD? SIX MONTHS YOU'VE BEEN OPEN ? YEAH. SO IT'S BASICALLY STILL BRAND NEW. AND THEN WE HAVE THE SIDE AND THE, THERE'S THREE SIDES TO IT. THERE'S THE FRONT, THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT. SO, OR THE FRONT, THE BACK AND THE RIGHT, RIGHT SIDE FACES TACO BELL. SO SINCE THIS IS ALL FAIRLY NEW, I GUESS YOU HAVE NO TROUBLE MATCHING MATERIALS AT POINT? WE HAVE, YOU CAN STILL GET THE WOOD SIDING AND IT'S ALL THE SAME. YEAH. YEAH. SO LET'S SAY, LOOKING AT THE, UH, THE WEST, THE, THE FRONT ELEVATION, SO TO THE LEFT OF YOUR NEW PROPOSED FRONT DOOR THERE, THAT'S EXISTING, CORRECT? CORRECT. UM, AND THAT, WHAT'S THAT, UM, LIGHTER MATERIAL AROUND THE WINDOWS? IS THAT STUCCO OR IS THAT, UH, WHAT KIND OF, THAT'S BRICK DETAILING IN THE, IN THE BACK LEFT. DO WE HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH THAT'S THE WOOD TRIM? YEAH, IT'S WOOD TRIM. PAINTED WOOD TRIM. SO THAT'S PAINTED WOOD TRIM THERE TO THE LE THAT WHERE THOSE TWO WINDOWS ARE? YES. WHERE THESE ARE? YEAH. YES. SO THE SURROUNDS THERE, THAT'S ALL, THAT'S WOOD THEN, CORRECT? CORRECT. AND THEN WHAT'S THE MATERIAL BEING PROPOSED AROUND THE DOOR AND THE OTHER, THE, FOR THE, YEAH. THE OTHER, THE DARK MATERIAL, NOT THE, NOT THE DARK, BUT THE LIGHTER MATERIAL. THEN THAT'S THE SAME, UH, STUCCO, THAT'S ON THE, THE LEFT SIDE. THE LEFT SIDE IS WHERE THE OLD VESTIBULE IS, WHERE THESE TWO WINDOWS ARE. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WOOD YOU SAID? RIGHT? TRIMS WOULD TRIM. SO THE, WHAT'S THE LIGHTER COLOR THERE? I'M, I'M SORRY. I'M NOT SURE WHICH LIGHTER COLOR. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WHAT, WHAT I'M, WHERE I'M GOING IS TO MAKE SURE WE MATCH THAT COLOR TO THE LEFT OF THE ENTRANCE STORE, THAT LIGHTER COLOR SURROUNDING THE WINDOWS, WHATEVER THAT MATERIAL IS. WE'RE JUST MATCHING THAT SAME MATERIAL. WE'RE MATCHING EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THE RIGHT SIDE. CORRECT. 'CAUSE IT LOOKS VERY, VERY SMOOTH ON, ON STREET TOO. IT LOOKS LIKE A WRECK. I HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH, I THINK. WELL, IT'S, I'M LOOKING AT A, DOESN'T LOOK LIKE BRICK. THAT'S, UH, A LEFT SIDE. THAT'S JUST IMMEDIATELY TO THE LEFT OF THE FRONT DOOR. DO YOU KNOW ABOUT RIGHT HERE? YES. YEAH, THAT LOOKS SMOOTH. THAT LOOKS LIKE WOOD. SO THEY DID WOOD PANELING [00:45:01] AROUND THERE. LOOKS LIKE WOOD PANELING OR SOMETHING. IT'S VERY SMOOTH. SO WE WERE APPROVED TO DO STUCCO BEFORE. WE WANT TO DO THAT. YEAH, WE DO THAT. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE, NOW THAT THAT'S ALL OUT FRONT IN THE SAME PLANE, IT'S THE SAME MATERIAL. SURE. UM, WHAT THE OWNER'S POINTING OUT TO ME, THERE WAS A DEVIATION THEY MADE IN THE FIELD AND THE PART OVER HERE ON THE LEFT, I'M ZOOMING IN ON. YES. UM, AROUND THE WINDOWS, AROUND THE TRIM IS A WOOD. YOU WITH OR HARDY BOARD PAINTED, PAINTED FLAT STOCK IT LOOKS LIKE VERSUS THE STUCCO. YEAH. DOESN'T LOOK LIKE STUCCO. SO YEAH, I HELP. DID I GIVE YOU THE, THE BEFORE PHOTOGRAPHS? DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF THAT? JUST, JUST TRYING TO, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S WOOD. I THINK THAT'S WOOD. YEAH. IT'S ALL, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE IT LOOKS THE SAME. AND THEN WE, IF IF, YEAH. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS I'M, I'M A LITTLE BIT WORRIED ABOUT, LEMME SEE IF I CAN PULL MY OTHER PICTURES. OH, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY GOT THE PICTURES IN THIS ALSO. YEAH. WHAT WAS THAT APPROVED AS? WAS THAT APPROVED AS STUCCO? YEAH, IT'S WOOD. OKAY. I JUST, THAT'S, HERE WE GO. YEAH, IT'S WOOD. I HAVE A, I HAVE A BLOW UP OF THAT. WE COULD JUST MAKE A CONDITION TO MATCH WHAT'S THERE. OKAY. I'M SORRY. I KNOW I'M GETTING INTO THE DETAIL. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S THE SAME TEXTURE OF THE SAME. YEAH. SO I KNOW IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE SAME PAINT COLOR, JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S THE SAME SO THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ALL ONE, ONE WE'RE IT'S ALL DONE AT ONCE IS WHAT THE, WHAT THE INTENT IS IN THE SAME TRIM, UH, LIKE DESIGN. BECAUSE YOU COULD SEE THEY'VE GOT LIKE SOME PANEL PANELING ON THE CORNERS. THAT'S TRUE. IN FACT, LET ME, SO NOW THAT YOU'RE ENCLOSING THE PATIO, WHICH IS BECOMING MORE OF A PERMANENT KIND OF DINING AREA, I ASSUME THOSE THE, ARE YOU REALLY GONNA USE THE SLIDING WINDOWS? ABSOLUTELY, YES. OKAY. JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE, AGAIN, TO TRY TO HAVE THE SAME LOOK. I KNOW THE SLIDING WINDOWS THEN THE HORIZONTAL SLIDING WINDOWS DON'T QUITE LOOK LIKE THE SAME FIXED WINDOWS THAT ARE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE DOOR. MM-HMM . WE ARE USING GRILLS TO TRY TO EMULATE THE LOOK. OKAY. UM, JUST BECAUSE IT IS A PATIO, THERE IS THE NEED AND WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE FRESH AIR, YOU KNOW, THE CERTAIN TIMES OF YEAR WE COULD DO IT. OKAY. AND THEN YOU'RE PROPOSING TO USE, I KNOW IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE, UM, YEAH, LOOKING AT PATIO AREA, NOW YOU'VE GOT THE, THE, UH, PLANTER BOXES I'LL CALL THEM, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE SIDING, I GUESS YOU'RE TAKING THOSE PLANTER BOXES OUT AND KIND OF REDOING THE EXACTLY. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. WE'RE GETTING RID OF THE PLANTERS ON THE OUTSIDE YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE EXPOSED CURB IN THE LANDSCAPE BED. THAT'S THE EDGE OF OUR SLAB BASICALLY. OKAY. AND WE'RE GONNA BUILD UP FROM THERE. AND THEN THE, UM, THE NEW DOOR IS GOING, IF YOU CAN USE YOUR POINTER. WHERE IS THE NEW DOOR ON THIS KIND OF THE UM, THIS PHOTO GOING? IS IT GOING IT'S GOING AT THE FACE. ONE MORE? NO. OOPS. OKAY. IT'S GOING TO THE RIGHT OF THIS. LET'S SEE IF I CAN PUT IT HERE. OKAY, THERE WE GO. ALRIGHT. THAT'S YOUR, OKAY. OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHERE EVERYTHING'S, EVERYTHING'S GOING. OKAY. ARE YOU GUYS GONNA NEED TO, UH, PUT A NEW SLAB IN IN ORDER? LIKE ARE YOU GONNA TEAR OUT THE EXISTING? NO, WE'RE GONNA, WE MAY HAVE TO CUT A LITTLE BIT OF IT BACK ACTUALLY. UM, OR, AND THE INTENT, WE HAVEN'T BUILT IT. OUR INTENT IS TO STAY UNDERNEATH THE COLUMN LINES AND THERE'S A SMALL ROOF OVERHANG AND WE DON'T WANNA HAVE TO REDO THE ENTIRE ROOF. WE'RE GONNA TRY TO STAY WITH INSIDE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE ROOF BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME, UM, THERE'S SOME LANDSCAPE BEDS THAT ACTUALLY EXTEND UNDER THE, THE, WE'RE NOT TO REWORK THE LANDSCAPE BED. WE'RE GONNA CUT BACK PART OF THE SLAB AT THE FRONT. LIKE I CAN, DIDN'T KNOW HOW MUCH DETAILS YOU WANTED TO GET INTO WITH THAT, BUT, AND THERE'S NO CONCERNS ABOUT LIKE, THE EXTERIOR SLAB SLOPING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR DRAINAGE AS IT IS OR? NO, I THINK WE'RE OKAY. OKAY. THE, THE BEDS ARE ALL DROPPED. YEAH. YEAH. JUST LOOKING AT YOUR ORIGINAL SUBMISSION AND, AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE [00:50:01] THE, TO THE LEFT OF THE FRONT DOOR, IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE ORIGINAL SUBMISSION, THIS WAS NOT ENCLOSED ON THE LEFT SIDE. 'CAUSE THE ORIGINAL SUBMISSION SHOWS JUST SORT OF A FLAT FACADE OF BRICK UNDER THE LITTLE ALLEY SIGN IN THE ORIGINAL SUBMISSION. YEAH, NO, THIS PATIO IS, THIS VESTIBULE HAS ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE ORIGINAL SUBMISSION. I DUNNO, JUST LOOKING AT THE PACKAGE AND IT, THE, THAT AREA TO THE LEFT OF THE DOOR IS NOT ENCLOSED UNLESS YOU BROUGHT SOMETHING ELSE IN DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS IN THE PACKAGE THAT I WOULD NOT HAVE. NO, I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE MATERIAL WAS AND IT, I SAW IT SAID BRICK AND THEN I REALIZED IT'S, THAT'S BEHIND THE, THE, UM, THAT CURRENT ENCLOSURE ON THE LEFT. SO. ALL RIGHT. BUT THE POINT IS NOW THE WHOLE THING IS ENCLOSED ALL THE WAY ACROSS. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT RIGHT THERE. H HOW, HOW ARE YOU GUYS GONNA BE CONDITIONING THIS SPACE? IS THERE GONNA BE UM, IT'S A SEPARATE AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM AND HEATING. WHERE, WHERE ARE THE, UH, OUTDOOR COMPRESSORS ON THE ROOFTOP ON THE ROOF? THERE'S A VERY LARGE PARAPET. GOOD. YEAH. I THINK TECHNICALLY THERE MAY BE A MINI SPLIT IN THERE, UM, VERSUS A FULL FULL, IT'S NOT, IT WON'T BE A PACKAGED ROOFTOP. YOU YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. SO YOU, YOU WON'T SEE ANYTHING FROM NO, IT'S GONNA BE ALL. YEAH. ARE YOU GUYS GONNA BE MAKING ANY, I I PRESUME THAT WHEN YOU REDO THE PORCH THAT IT'S GONNA DISRUPT ALL THE SURROUNDING LANDSCAPING. ARE YOU GUYS GONNA PUT IT BACK INTO MATCH? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. YES. UM, TAKE, WHY DON'T YOU TAKE US AROUND THE, UH, IF YOU CAN, THE TACO BELL SIDE JUST TO LOOK AT WHAT'S WHAT THAT, OKAY, SO THE BO THE BOTTOM LEFT THERE. ALRIGHT. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, SO THE AROUND THE WINDOWS, IT'S LIKE A HARDY BOARD OR SOMETHING? IT'S A, A PAINTED, I THINK I WAS JUST TOLD THAT WE'RE CHANGING WHAT WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT WE WERE DOING TO DO MORE OF THE FLAT STOCK, LIKE WE EXISTS IN THE VESTIBULE ON THE FRONT AND THE PHOTOGRAPH THAT WE SHOWED FLAT, FLAT STOCK. SO IT'LL BE FLAT STOCK WITH WOOD TRIMS TO KIND OF DECORATE IT. IT'S LIKE A HARDY LIKE PLANK MATERIAL, I BELIEVE. SO ALMOST A HARDY PANEL OR, YEAH. RIGHT. OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY. OKAY. EXCELLENT. ALRIGHT, IS THERE, SO ANY OTHER, UM, EXTERIOR ELEVATION CHANGES OR IN OUR, IN THE NEW PACKET THAT WE ARE JUST GETTING THIS MORNING? IT'S JUST THESE. OKAY. I CAN'T MOVE OVER. OKAY. UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT ON THE EXTERIOR ELEVATION CHANGES? ALRIGHT, WHY DON'T YOU, UH, WALK US THROUGH THE, THIS IS THE, THIS IS TECHNICALLY THE BACK AT THE TOP. I'M HAVING A MOMENT HERE USING THAT. SO WHAT YOU SEE FROM THE PUBLIX'S VIEW, THE BACK BACK AND THERE'S 40 OR 50 FEET BETWEEN THE BUILDING ON THE RIGHT AND THE PATIO BECAUSE THAT'S THE WHOLE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING. SO IT DOESN'T, WON'T REALLY READ LIKE THAT. THERE'S A TRANSFORMER THERE AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF BLOCKING THE WAY. UM, BUT THE DISTANCE YOU CAN SEE IN THIS ELEVATION ON THE BOTTOM, IF YOUR VIEW IS FROM THE TREE ON THE RIGHT, YOU'D SEE THE VERY FAR BACK END OF THIS PART OF THE PATIO THAT KIND OF WRAPS THE FRONT, WHICH IS ON THE TOP. OKAY. YEAH. AND, UH, WHAT COLOR ARE YOU PAINTING? THE NEW HOLLOW METAL DOOR? DO YOU WANT THE GRAY COLOR OR YOU WANNA MATCH THE PAGE? UH, UH, WE MATCH UH, MAYBE THE FRONT DOOR. WE CAN MAKE IT BROWN OR WE JUST MAKE IT MATCH THIS COLOR. MAKE A BROWN. GOOD MORNING BY THE WAY. I APOLOGIZE. I THINK WE'RE GONNA MAKE A BROWN TO MATCH THE WOOD SING TO MATCH THE, THE BASE OR THE NEW WOOD SIDING. OKAY. [00:55:01] OKAY. ANY OTHER, UM, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICANT ON THE ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT, WALK US THROUGH OR SHOW US THE NEW BUILDING SIGN IF YOU WILL PLEASE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO THE BUILDING SIGN IS BASICALLY ON THIS FACADE ON THE LEFT OVER THE VESTIBULE THAT EXISTS OVER THE PATIO. AND IT FACES THE STREET WORKING FOR ONE SIGN ONLY AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. UM, IT'S A CORNER LOT AND YOU COULD HAVE ONE MAYBE ALSO ON UM, MARIETTA STREET, BUT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE FOR THEM. AND SO THIS DOES NOT SHOW THE PATIO BEING ENCLOSED BECAUSE ORIGINALLY WE WERE DOING JUST THE SIGN AND THEY WERE LIKE, WELL, WE ALSO WANNA DO THE PATIO. SO I GUESS THE SIGN WOULD COME FIRST. THAT'S PROBABLY EASIER TO DO QUICKER. AND THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE. UM, IT IS KIND OF BEING SHOWN OVER OUR OLD PRESENTATION BEFORE THAT HAD THE VESTIBULE NOT THERE AND THE PATIO AND THINGS. THE SIGN CONSTRUCTION IS ON THE LEFT BASICALLY THERE. IT'S UM, A BLACK STAINLESS STEEL CHANNEL LETTER BACKLIT. SO IT KIND OF REFLECTS AGAINST THE BACKER, THE BACKER'S A, A PAINTED METAL TO MATCH THE BRICK, ALL THE LITTLE LETTERS AND THINGS. WE DON'T WANNA PUT ALL THE HOLES THROUGH THE WALL TO, FOR EVERY LITTLE LETTER AND THERE'S NO RACEWAY. SO BASICALLY IT'S A BOX WITH ALL THE LETTERS STANDING OUT ON IT PAINTED TO MATCH THE BRICK. SO THE, UH, SO THE LETTERS ARE BLACK AND I GUESS THE, UM, ESTABLISHED 2 0 0 5, EVERYTHING'S BLACK WITH THE, THE BACKGROUND OF THE SIGN IS, IS AT BEIGE. CORRECT. AND I THINK YOU HAVE A SAMPLE OF THAT PAINT COLOR AS WELL, WHICH YOU SAID IS PAINTED AT THE MATCH. THE BUILDING. YES SIR. BASICALLY. OKAY. IS THERE ANY, UH, LIGHTING FROM THE CANOPY OR ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA SHINE ON IT? NO, THE LETTERS ARE HAULED OFF, WROTE AN INCH OR SO OFF THE FACE. SO IT'LL CREATE A HALO EFFECT. OH, SO YOU ON THE MATERIAL IT IS BACKLIT. IT'S BACKLIT, YES. NOT GOT IT. IT'S NOT LIKE BACKLIT WHERE YOU SEE LIKE A RIGHT, RIGHT. IT'S HALO. MORE OF A HALO. OKAY. WHAT DO YOU, WHAT IS THE, SO IT'S IN A, IT'S ON A BASICALLY MOUNTED ON A PANEL, CORRECT? JUST A PANEL, NOT A CABINET. SO THERE'S A DETAIL ON THE LEFT THAT WE DREW. UM, IT'S ROTATED 90 DEGREES, BUT THERE'S A PANEL THAT GETS OKAY. MOUNTED TO THE WALL THAT THEN HAS A CONDUIT FOR US TO HAVE OUR ELECTRICAL ELECTRICALS COME FROM THE BUILDING. OKAY. AND THEN IT'LL HOUSE ALL THESE SMALL LITTLE RUNS TO ALL THE LETTERS AND THINGS, UM, WHICH IS THE TOP METAL PANEL THAT'S BEING PAINTED TO MATCH THE BUILDING. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE SIGNAGE WILL BE MOUNTED TO THAT PANEL. SO WE'LL HAVE SOME DEPTH TO IT. CORRECT. YEAH. THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ELECTRICAL IN THERE 'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ALL FLAT. WE'RE USING A ONE INCH STANDOFF, SO THE LETTER'S BEING OFF THAT FACE ONE INCH TO ALLOW THE LIGHT TO KIND OF BLEED OUT AROUND IT. SO LOGO AND LETTERS AND EVERYTHING WILL ALL BE BACKED. CORRECT? YEAH. AND MEAN HOW THICK ARE THE LETTERS? I THINK WE SAID THEY'RE, UM, ONE INCH. OH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS THEY ONE INCH OR OFF TWO LETTERS? UM, I THINK, I THINK ONE INCH. YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE, I WOULD GUESS TWO TO THREE. YOU THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE TWO OR THREE INCHES? YEAH, ONE AND A QUARTER. THEY'VE GOT TWO TO GET THAT MUCH. LE D'S WHAT I WAS, THEY'RE ONE AND A QUARTER. THEY'RE GONNA BE AT LEAST TWO. THE, THE STANDOFF IS ONE INCH. YEAH, THE STANDOFF IS ONE, BUT THE LETTER ITSELF'S GOTTA HOUSE THE LED. IT'S GOT HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO GET THE LED AWAY FROM THE BACKER. SO YEAH, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF, I WOULD, I WOULD BET MORE ON THREE INCH THICK CLUTTER. ROLL DOWN UNDERNEATH YOUR, UM, ROBERT, UNDERNEATH YOUR INSTALLATION DIAGRAM THERE, IF YOU JUST MOVE DOWN ON THAT SHEET, THERE'S SOME, KEEP GOING A BIT. RIGHT THERE TO THE RIGHT IT SAYS FRONT AND IT SAYS STAINLESS STEEL, INDIVIDUAL LETTERS, SYMBOLS, AND BARS MOUNTED WITH ONE IN ONE QUARTER INCH STAINLESS STEEL RETURN. I THINK THAT WAS THE TERMINOLOGY FOR THE, UM, STANDOFF. WE WERE USING THE STANDOFF. YEAH, THE STANDOFF IS ONE INCH. IT'S ONE INCH THAT IT SAYS IT UP ON THAT THAT WAS DRAWN BY THE ARCHITECTS. THE LETTERS ARE GONNA BE TWO TO THREE INCHES THICK. I APOLOGIZE. YOU HAVE A CERTAIN EXPERTISE. OKAY. I'M JUST READING WHAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN. SO, SO YEAH, THE ARCHITECTS, UH, YEAH, WHEN THE SIGNED GUY MANUFACTURES IT, THAT LETTER'S GONNA BE THREE INCHES THICK UP. I SO WE'LL MAKE SURE WE UPDATE [01:00:01] OUR AT THE FARM INFORMATION. ONE INCH STANDOFF AND THREE, IT'S GONNA YEAH. A CHALLENGE TO GET THE, THE ESTABLISHED IN 2005. YEAH. UH, WITH A THREE INCH THICK LETTER WHEN THE LETTER THAT'S, THAT'LL PROBABLY BE MORE JUST THE ONE INCH FLAT MOUNT. 'CAUSE THERE'S UNLIT THERE'S JUST NO WAY TO GET UP. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY. IT, IT WOULD BE KIND OF COOL THOUGH IF, UM, THE LOGO ACTUALLY GLOWED WITH THE DIFFERENT CUTS. YOU KNOW, IT'S SOFT. I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THERE'S, OH, IT'S ONE PIECE. I THINK THERE'S POTENTIAL IN THAT WHEN THEY MANUFACTURE, UM, THAT'S PIECE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE WHERE YOU HAVE THE DIFFERENT CUTS, THAT WOULD BE REALLY COOL. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, THERE'S NO WAY THE OWNER'S CONFIRMING THAT'S THE INTENT. SO ALL THE SLICES OF THE DIFFERENT MEAT CUTS WOULD YEAH. A A LIGHT YOU CAN SEE, YEAH, YOU COULD DO THAT. THAT'S GONNA BE VERY, THAT'S YOU THINK YOU'VE GOT WHAT, EIGHT DIFFERENT, NINE DIFFERENT, 10 DIFFERENT PIECES OF OF METAL YOU'RE TRYING TO INDIVIDUALLY MOUNT LIGHT UP AND THEY'LL HAVE TO SELL A LOT OF STEAK . THAT'S GONNA BE ONE PIECE. IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION. IT'S NOT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, AND THAT'S THE ONLY SIGN, UH, BUILDING SIGN. CORRECT? THERE'S NO SIGNS. RIGHT. AND DO YOU HAVE A, IS THERE A MONUMENT SIGN NOW? THERE'S THAT PUBLIC SIGN OR IT USED TO BE A KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN SIGN? I THINK, UM, WE ARE NOT USING IT. OKAY. IT'S OVER IN THE FRONT CORNER. UNDER THE LAMP. UNDER THE LIGHT POST. YEAH. OKAY. VERY GOOD. UM, BEFORE ANY, BEFORE ANY MOTIONS ARE MADE, I'LL ASK FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THIS APPLICATION THIS MORNING. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. NO PUBLIC COMMENT. ALRIGHT. OKAY. SO WE'VE GOT, UH, THE EXTERIOR ELEVATION CHANGES AND THE, THE BUILDING SIGN TO, UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION, UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, REGARDING DRB 2 6 0 0 1 3 LITTLE ALLEY STAKE. UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE EXTERIOR CHANGES AND SIGNAGE AS SUBMITTED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. UM, THE EXTERIOR TRIM AND SURFACE AT THE ENCLOSED PORCH, UH, WILL MATCH THE MATERIALS AND TAILING, UM, TO THE NORTH OF THE FRONT DOOR, WHICH APPEARS TO BE A HARDY, UH, TRIM AND PANEL, UH, MATERIAL LAYOUT. UM, AND THE APPLICANT WILL REPLACE ANY DAMAGED LANDSCAPING, UH, SURROUNDING THE CONSTRUCTION AREA TO MATCH THE ORIGINAL APPROVED MATERIALS. AND FINALLY, THE NEW WINDOWS ON THE ENCLOSED PORCH WILL MATCH, UH, THE GLAZING OF THE ADJACENT WINDOWS IN BOTH, UH, THE MULIAN PATTERN AND THE GLASS TINT. UH, AND A MOTION OWEN. SECOND. OKAY. UH, MOTION BY MR. ROWAN. SECOND BY MR. OWENS. THANK YOU MR. OWENS. UM, ARE THERE ANY, ANY COMMENTS, DISCUSSION ITEMS ABOUT THE MOTION ON FLOOR? UH, JUST FOR THE, I MEAN FOR THE, FOR THE RECORD, THERE WAS ONE OTHER DIFFERENCE FROM THE SUBMISSION AND THAT'S THAT THEY'RE KEEPING THE EXISTING FRONT DOOR, NOT THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE MOTION, BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS SUBMITTED. BUT IT'S, BUT THEY PRESENT. OH, DID HE DO AS SUBMITTED? WELL AS SUBMITTED TODAY. WHAT'S IN TODAY'S PACKET? YEAH. IS, I THINK THAT'S CORRECT WITH OUR DISCUSSIONS. THAT'S, I GET IT. THAT'S BEEN DEFERRED, SO. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER ITEMS, UH, ABOUT THE MOTION THERE? BE NONE. I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. ALL OPPOSED NO OPPOSITION. MOTION PASSES. SIX ZERO. OKAY. GOT THE, THE BUILDING SIGNED TO DO PLEASE. UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, REGARDING DRB 2 6 0 0 1 3 LITTLE ALLEY STAKE MOTION TO APPROVE THE BUILDING SIGN AS SUBMITTED. SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. SWING AND A SECOND BY MR. MCCAIN. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR? THERE? BE NONE. I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. ALL OPPOSED NO OPPOSITION. MOTION PASSES. SIX ZERO. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION THIS MORNING. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ALRIGHT. HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND YOU HAVE A NICE WEEKEND. THANK YOU. OKAY. OUR NEXT [4. DRB260014     CSI Labs     2580 Westside Parkway Consideration of exterior changes ​] APPLICANT THIS MORNING [01:05:01] IS GONNA BE CSI LABS. CSI LABS. YOU'RE HERE. THEY'RE COMING UP. THEY'RE COMING UP. OKAY. ALL OKAY. LEMME GIVE SIGNING HERE. 50. WHAT'S THAT? OH, . OKAY. THERE. IT'S, I DROPPED IT BY TOP OF MY ALL RIGHT. OKAY. IF YOU HOLD OFF JUST A MINUTE, LET THE, UH, THE COFFEE REFILLERS REFILL THEIR SEATS. WE'LL GET STARTED HERE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WE'RE GOOD. ALRIGHT. GOOD MORNING. IF YOU'LL INTRODUCE YOURSELF THIS MORNING AND THEN, UM, WALK US THROUGH WHAT'S IN OUR PACKET TODAY PLEASE. ALRIGHT. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. UM, MY NAME IS MANUEL AGUILAR. I'M HERE WITH BRAVO PAINTING COMPANY. WE ARE THE PAINTING CONTRACTOR THAT IS, UM, GOING TO BE DOING THE CSI LABORATORIES, REPAINT PROJECT. UM, AND THEN, UM, BASICALLY, UM, HERE, DO YOU GUYS WANNA START OFF WITH LIKE, EXISTING PICTURES AND THEN WHAT? IT'S GONNA LOOK, UM, YEAH, WHY DON'T YOU, WHY DON'T YOU SHOW US WHAT'S THERE NOW? OKAY. SO, AND THEN THIS IS THE EXISTING BUILDING. UM, AND THEN WE, THEY HAVE REQUESTED, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING IS PAINTING THE BRICK WITH THE UNDERSIDE STUCCO. AND, UM, THE, THE COLORS THAT WE'RE DOING ARE THE SHERWIN WILLIAMS SNOWBOUND ON ALL THE WHITE BRICK, UH, SHOWING THERE. UH, YES I DO. SORRY. DID BRING A COUPLE, UM, COLOR CHIPS THERE. IT'S FOUR. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE IT WAS GONNA BE, SO THAT'S FINE. WE CAN, WE CAN SHARE . AND WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THAT PAINT COLOR AGAIN? IT'S A SHERWIN WILLIAMS SNOW BOUND IS THE ONE, AND THEN THE GRAY IS SHERWIN WILLIAMS ONLINE. SO IT'S LIKE A LIGHT GRAY. UM, AND BASICALLY THE, THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE FOR ALL THE FACE BRICK BEING, UM, WHITE. AND THEN THE UNDERSIDE STUCCO CEILING WOULD BE THE GRAY. AND THEN, UM, THERE'S ALSO LIKE A, A METAL LINTEL. UH, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT, UM, BECAUSE IT'S ON THE UNDERSIDE, SO IT'S LIKE RIGHT NEXT TO THE STUCCO THAT WOULD BE IN THE GRAY AS WELL. SO, UM, AND THAT WOULD BE BASICALLY THE, THE ENTIRE, UH, PROJECT THERE WOULD JUST BE THE WHOLE EXTERIOR ALL THE WAY AROUND ALL THE SIDES OF THE, THE BUILDING. ALRIGHT. LOOKS LIKE SOME OF YOUR PICTURES HAVE DIFFERENT COLOR SCHEMES IN 'EM. SO WALK, LET'S SEE. UM, THIS IS THE FRONT VIEW, AND THEN THIS RIGHT HERE KIND OF SHOWS, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A RENDERING. SO THIS SHOWS THE UNDERSIDE STUCCO, UM, BEING THE ONLINE. AND THEN THE WHITE WOULD BE THE, THE SNOWBOUND ON THE BRICK. OKAY. SO IN LOOKING AT THIS PHOTO, YES, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAD THE, SOME OF THE GRAY, LET'S SEE, WHAT'S IT CALLED HERE? ONLINE. ONLINE, OKAY. SO THE ONLINE GRAY, THERE'S SOME, SOME OF THE FACE OF THE SOFFIT IS BEING PAINTED GRAY. AND IN THE SOFFIT ITSELF, THE HORIZONTAL SOFFIT. NOW, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURE BEFORE THIS, I DON'T SEE, YEAH, IT, IT, IT WOULD, SO THE SOFFIT HERE, UM, I GUESS THAT SMALL SECTION IS SHOWING, IT CAME OUT GRAY, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE WHITE. IT'S TO REPRESENT THE LENTIL. UM, BUT THE LENTIL IS, IT'S UM, I GUESS IT'S, IT'S ALL GOING TO BE WHITE, SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE GRAY SHOWING THERE. IT'S JUST IN THIS RENDERING IT WAS MORE SO TO SHOW LIKE THE UNDERSIDE, BECAUSE IN THE FIRST PICTURE YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE THE UNDERSIDE. SO IT WAS JUST TO SHOW THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE FULLY WHITE, THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE A DIFFERENT COLOR. UM, AND IF WE GO TO THE EXISTING, UM, THE LIN, THE, I GUESS THE LENTIL DOESN'T WRAP AROUND THE BRICK, IT'S JUST ON THE UNDERSIDE. UM, AND SO THAT WOULD STILL BE WHITE. IT'S JUST THAT ONE RENDERING, LIKE TRYING TO FIX IT. AND IT, IT WAS JUST MORE SO TO SHOW THE UNDERSIDE. ALRIGHT. I'M STILL CONFUSED. , THE RENDERING IS NOT CORRECT. I KIND OF LIKED HOW THEY WRAPPED UP THE GRAY AND THERE'S A GOOD, THERE'S A NICE BREAK POINT TOO IN THIS PICTURE WHERE THERE'S A RESET THE BRICK ACTUALLY RECESSES, I THINK THAT LOOKS YEAH. PAINT THAT, THAT LENTIL THE SAME COLOR. THAT'S THE UNDERSIDE. YEAH. AND WHEN YOU GET TO THE, IT'S A HAPPY ACCIDENT. NO, YOU DON'T LIKE IT. I, HERE'S WHY I DON'T, HERE'S WHY I DON'T LIKE IT WHERE YOU STOP IT BECAUSE THIS REPRESENTATION IS [01:10:01] NOT REAL. THAT LENTIL ISN'T THAT TALL. OH, IT'S A BRICK LENTIL. IT'S WHEN YOU GO, RIGHT. BUT WHEN YOU GO BACK TO THAT THING, IT'S, IT'S TWO BRICKS TALL. SO THIS ISN'T TWO BRICKS TALL. THAT'S REPRESENTING WHAT, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 BRICKS TALL. SO, SO WHEN YOU PAINT JUST THOSE TWO LITTLE BRICKS, IT'S GONNA LOOK, I THINK IT'S GONNA LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT. IT'S NOT, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA LOOK AS GREAT. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE BROWN BRICK PICTURE, SEE HOW IT'S ONLY TWO AND THEN THE, THE ONE BEFORE THAT. OH, AND WHAT THE RIGHT HERE. THAT ONE RIGHT THERE. SEE HOW IT'S ONLY TWO? YEAH. AND IT, IT'S NOT THE FIVE OR SIX THAT THE RENDERING SHOWS. SO IT'S GONNA BE A REALLY THIN LINE UP THERE. AND I THINK THAT WOULD LOOK ODD. NOW IT'S, THIS IS JUMBO BRICK. YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY IT IS BIG BRICK. THIS IS JUMBO BRICK, NOT REGULAR BRICK. SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A FOUR, IT'S ALMOST EIGHT INCHES RIGHT THERE THAT THOSE TWO COURSES OF BRICK ARE EIGHT INCHES. 'CAUSE IT'S JUMBO. SO MOVE TO THE LEFT TO THE END OF THE, WHERE WOULD YOU STOP IT? UM, SO BASICALLY ALL THE ENTRANCES HAVE LIKE A, WHERE IT STEPS UP, UM, GOES. THIS WAS MORE OF A QUESTION OF THIS DISCUSSION. IF WE CONTINUED THE GRAY, WHERE DOES IT STOP ON THE, YOU JUST DO THAT INSET SECTION. WELL, I, I, SO I WENT AHEAD AND I WAS WORKING ON THIS AS WELL. UM, AND WE'LL, IF WE CONTINUE, I GUESS LIKE THE, THE LINE, YOU SEE HOW IT DROPS THERE. I KIND OF DID THE, THE BLUE LINE THERE MM-HMM . UM, IF WE DO THE GRAY AND WE CONTINUE IT UP TO WHERE THE VERTICAL LINE IS, THAT WOULD GIVE IT LIKE A CLEAN CUT. 'CAUSE UM, LIKE YOU SEE IN IT, IT DOES DO LIKE A DROP. IT'S LIKE ABOUT LIKE A THREE FOOT, UM, ELEVATION EVERY ENTRANCE AND THEN IT DROPS BACK DOWN, UM, THE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING EXCEPT FOR THE COUPLE ENTRANCES AROUND, WHAT DOES THE BLUE LINE REPRESENT? I'M SORRY. I WAS JUST TO SHOW LIKE WHERE LIKE A NATURAL BREAK WOULD BE FOR THE, IF WE WERE TO DO THE, THE, THE BREAK GRAY, DO THAT ALL GRAY AND YEAH. AND THEN WE WOULD JUST STOP IT THERE SO THAT IT JUST DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY AROUND. BECAUSE I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS PICTURE, WE HAVE THE TWO BRICKS THAT YOU GUYS ARE DISCUSSING ACROSS. UM, BUT ONCE IT DROPS DOWN YEAH, THERE'S THE TWO BRICKS KIND OF DISAPPEAR. IT'S ALL FLAT SURFACE THERE. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO THE BLUE LINE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS PAINT THAT WHOLE UPPER AREA GRAY. UM, SO SOMETHING THAT, UM, SPEAKING OF, OF BRETT, UM, BASICALLY THE OWNER WANTED TO DO THE ALL WHITE, BUT IF WE NEED TO DO SOME TYPE OF LIKE LIGHT ACCENT, UM, I HAD, UH, HERE'S THE ONLINE, WE HAD LOOKED AT THE CRUSH ICED. SO, 'CAUSE WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, SO IT DOESN'T POP OFF AS LIKE, AS A GRAY, IT WOULD JUST BE LIKE A LITTLE BIT DARKER OF A WHITE, BUT IT WOULD STILL BE IN THE WHITE FAMILY. UM, WE COULD ACCENT THIS PART THAT'S HERE IN THE, IN THE BLUE LINES. UM, COULD BE THE CRUSHED ICE, WHICH WOULD JUST BE A, A A BIT DARKER, A LITTLE DARKER THAN THE SNOW BOUND. AND THEN THE LONG STRETCHES OF THE BUILDING WOULD JUST BE THE SNOW BOUND. AND THEN THE ONLY THING THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED FOR THE ONLINE WOULD BE THE, UM, UNDERSIDE STUCCO WITH THE LINTEL. DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF THE ENTIRE BUILDING? SO THE BEST PICTURE IS, UM, THE, THE BUILDING I THINK IS LIKE CLOSE TO 700 FEET. AND SO THE, IT WAS HARD TO GET A FULL ANGLE. UM, BUT THIS IS KIND OF LIKE ONE THAT SHOWS, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE TUNED OUT. UM, AND I, I DID TRY TO GET A FULL PICTURE, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO BASICALLY KIND OF STANDING ACROSS THE STREET AND THEN YOU HAVE TOO MUCH A TREAT IN THE WAY. UM, HOW MANY ENTRANCE FEATURES ARE THERE? UH, YOU HAVE TWO ON THE FRONT SIDE, UH, I GUESS ON THE ROADSIDE. THEN YOU HAVE TWO THAT ARE, UM, PERPENDICULAR TO IT THAT ARE NOT ON THE ROADSIDE. AND THEN ON THE BACKSIDE, UM, THERE'S TWO MORE. UM, IT'S ALMOST LIKE AN L-SHAPED BUILDING. SO THE TWO ON THE ROADSIDE, TWO PERPENDICULAR, AND THEN IT HAS TWO MORE ON THE BACKSIDE. UM, A TOTAL OF FOUR ENTRANCES. AND WE COULD DO THE, THE PROPOSED CRUSHED ICE, LIKE THE LIGHTER SHADE ON ALL FOUR, EVEN ON THE ONES THAT ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, TO THE STOREFRONT. UM, TO JUST KEEP IT LIKE ALL UNIFORMED. AND, UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE TOTAL WOULD JUST BE THE SIX ENTRANCES. I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT'S, WHAT HAPPENED IS THE, THERE WAS A COUPLE BUILDINGS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS MM-HMM . I THINK THEY'RE CALLED WESTERN WESTERN UNION OR SOMETHING. AND, AND THEY WERE DONE IN 2019. [01:15:01] OKAY. THEY WERE COMPLETELY WHITEWASHED. THEY'RE THE SAME, UM, SAME CONFIGURATION, SAME BRICK, SAME EVEN DESIGN. THE SAME DESIGN. UM, AND THAT WHEN THEY DID THE PA WHEN THEY DID ALL THE WHITEWASHING, EVERYTHING GOING WHITE, IT JUST, ALL, ALL THE CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING I FELT LIKE WAS JUST VERY DEME LOST GOOD WORK. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP SOME OF, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THESE, UH, THESE EMBLEMS WITH THE UM, UH, I GUESS THE PINEAPPLES OR WHATEVER YOU WANT. YEAH. THE FLOOR LEAVES THE FLOOR. YES. KIND OF UP THERE. UM, THEY'RE HARD TO SEE NOW. I AGREE. UM, BUT I THINK WE COULD MAKE THOSE POP A LITTLE BIT TOO. THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY 'CAUSE THAT SHOWS YOU WHERE THE ENTRANCE IS. SO, UM, ANYWAY, I'M, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED THE PAINTING IF WE'RE GONNA PAINT THIS AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOME PRESSURE WASHING FIRST. 'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A VERY, OH NO, IT WOULD BE HEAVY PRESSURE WASHING. YES. I THINK THE, THE, I I ASKED, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE LAST TIME THEY'VE DONE ANY WORK TO THE BUILDING. SO IT'S DEFINITELY, IT'S PROBABLY NOT KIND OF, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY IT'S GONE, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY GONE. JUST WONDER IF YOU'RE, IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, GIVE IT SOME, MAKE SURE IT'S GOT SOME CHARACTER TO IT RATHER THAN JUST A COMPLETE WHITEWASH. SO I, I WILL SAY THAT, UM, I THINK THAT THE, THE HALF INCH RECESSES WILL SHOW BETTER WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S WHITE. THEN IT DOES RIGHT NOW. 'CAUSE THE MORTAR AND THE BRICK WILL BE THE SAME. SO YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE SHADOWS. UM, I I KIND OF FEEL LIKE, UH, THE TOP TRIM MATCHING THE, THE BASES AND THE UNDER SOFFIT, UM, WORK. WELL. AND THEN IF YOU USE THE, IS IT, WHAT'S THE DARKER COLOR? NOT THE, THE, THE MEDIUM DARK. SO IT'S CRUSHED ICE. A SNOWBOUND IS THE WHITE AND THEN ONLINE IS THE GRAY, THE ACCENT COLOR THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING TO PUT ON THE FACE OF THE BREAK OVER THE ENTRANCES WOULD BE CRUSHED ICE. SO IT'S STILL A WHITE, BUT IT'S LIKE A, A BIT OF A, HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE COLOR INTO IT. I MEAN, I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT YOU COULD REALLY DO THE WHOLE ENTRANCE POP OUT IN THAT LIKE MEDIUM COLOR MM-HMM . BUT KEEP THE BASES THE UH, DARKER COLOR. YEAH. AND THE, THE COPING, THE DARKER COLOR I THINK, UH, YEAH, JUST PERSONALLY I THINK IT LOOKS BETTER THAN JUST DOING THE TOP PART, WHICH IS KIND OF PRETTY HEAVY. ALRIGHT, SO AIR, UH, LOOKING AT THIS, THE PICTURE ON THE MONITOR, LOOKING AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE THERE. SO WHAT START FROM, START FROM THE GROUND UP ERIC, AND WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT ARE YOU KIND OF PROPOSING OR TALKING ABOUT? SO BETWEEN THE FOUR COLUMNS. OKAY. UM, ALL THAT BE THE MEDIUM COLOR WITH THE, THE BASES AS THEY ARE WITH THE DARK COLOR, THE DARKER GRAY OR WHATEVER, THE DARKER GRAY, THE SOFFIT UNDER SOFFIT, THE DARKER GRAY. AND THEN THE, THE FULL CAP, THE DARK, THE DARKER GRAY. AND THEN ANY, UM, RECESSED COLUMN BASES ALONG THE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING, THE DARKER GRAY AND THE CAP, THE DARKER GRAY. SO THE ONLY AREA, AND THIS IS JUST, I MEAN A SUGGESTION, BUT THE ONLY AREAS THAT WOULD BE MEDIUM GRAY IN LIEU OF THE WHITE CRUSHED ICE, WHATEVER IT IS, ARE BETWEEN, FROM BETWEEN THE FOUR COLUMNS, THAT WHOLE AREA. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO THE ENTRANCES WOULD BE A MEDIUM COLOR, BUT IT WOULD STILL MAINTAIN THE CONTINUITY OF THE DARK GRAY BASE AND THE, THE COPING AND THE UNDER SOFFIT, THE MEDIUM COLOR IS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE NEW COLOR YOU TALKED ABOUT THE NEW, THE CRUSHED ICE, RIGHT? YES. THAT'S THE MEDIUM. THAT'S THE MEDIUM COLOR. AND WE GOT WHITE AND WE GOT THE DARKER GRAY. OKAY. SO THAT WHOLE AREA ENCLOSED IN THE BLUE PLUS THE COLUMNS IN THE MEDIUM COLOR PLUS THE COLUMNS PLUS THE COLUMNS INCLUDING IN COLUMNS IN THE MEDIUM COLOR. THAT'S RIGHT. THE BASE OF THE COLUMN AND STILL THE PARAPET THERE IN THE DARKER YEAH. COLOR AND AND THE UNDER SOFFIT. AND THE UNDER SOFFIT. RIGHT. OKAY. AND IF YOU HAVE TWO OF THOSE ON EACH SIDE, I THINK IT'LL BREAK IT UP A BIT. THERE ARE, THERE ARE TWO ON THE WEST SIDE PARKWAY SIDE. YEP. THERE ARE TWO PERPENDICULAR NORTHERN SIDE AND THEN THERE'S TWO IN THE REAR OF THE BUILDING. YEP. TOTAL SIX KIND OF ENTRY FEATURES. I THINK IT WOULD BREAK IT UP ADEQUATELY. AND IT'S SUBTLE ENOUGH THAT IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION, BUT IF ANYONE ELSE HAS THOUGHTS. NO, I LIKE IT. I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING. I AGREE WITH YOU. I JUST THINK IT'S KIND OF ODD TO KEEP THE, THE SHORT COLUMNS WHITE, YOU KNOW, AND IT, 'CAUSE IT'S SO TOP HEAVY. YOU BY ANY CHANCE HAVE A SAMPLE OF THE CRUSH DICE. I, I DIDN'T BRING ONE OF THAT. UM, I DID PULL UP LIKE A, A DIGITAL, I HAD A DIGITAL VERSION HERE. UM, BUT I DON'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S A DIGITAL, [01:20:01] IT'S A, IT JUST KIND OF COMPARES THE SNOW BANDWIDTH TO CRUSH ICE. AND UM, BASICALLY IT SHOWS WHERE IT'S NOT LIKE THE ONLINE. UM, SO IT'S LIKE, IT'S, IT'S STILL IN THE WHITE. SO I KNOW THE OWNER BASICALLY, UM, THEY JUST WANTED TO COPY WHAT WAS ACROSS THE STREET. SO THEY, THEY WANTED LIKE THE ALL WHITE, BUT UM, I'VE KIND OF UPDATED THEM AND TOLD THEM LIKE, IT'S NOT LIKELY THAT WE'RE GONNA DO ALL WHITE. AND SO, UM, TO KIND OF JUST KEEP THINGS ON SCHEDULE WITH THEM. UM, AND, AND I TOLD THEM, HEY, LET ME, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WELL YOU GUYS ARE DISCUSSING IS WHAT I KIND OF TOLD THEM. AND I TOLD HIM IT WOULD STILL BE WITHIN THE WHITE FAMILY BUT NOT GRAY. UM, AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE FOUND THE CRUSH ICE THAT'S IN THE SNOWBOUND FAMILY. UM, BUT A COUPLE SHADES DARKER AND UM, IT'S NOT A GRAY, A FULL GRAY. IT'S STILL TECHNICALLY LIKE A WHITE. AND SO, UM, AND THEN LIKE, I, I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU GUYS WERE SAYING WHERE, UM, YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE NEED TO DO THE COLUMNS, LIKE BASICALLY THE WHOLE SECTION AND THE CRUSH SIZE, THE MM-HMM . THE DARKER WHITE, EVERYTHING ELSE STAY WHITE. AND THEN WE DO THE, UM, METAL COPING ON TOP AND THE ONLINE, THE STUCCO, THE LENTIL IN THE ONLINE AND THEN TO KIND OF ACCENT THE, UH, COLUMNS. THE, THE, WHERE THE BASE GETS A LITTLE BIT WIDER. KEEP THAT IN THE ONLINE AS WELL. KIND OF LIKE WHAT THIS RENDERING IS SHOWING. MM-HMM . AND THEN THE ONLY CHANGE WOULD BE JUST THOSE ENTRANCES GOING WITH THE DARKER WHITE. AND SO THE, THE, UH, SPACES BETWEEN THE ENTRANCE BAY, UM, CAN, CAN YOU ZOOM OUT OR, OR PULL UP? UH, WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT TO UH, THIS, THIS BOTTOM PICTURE'S FINE. OH, SORRY. OH, SO YOU'D CONTINUE WITH THE, THE, 'CAUSE THERE STILL IS A SMALL SOFFIT, UM, ON THE MAIN STRETCH OF THE BUILDING. YES. SO THAT SOFFIT STAYS THE ONLINE. YEAH. SO THE WHOLE RETURN, YEAH, THE WHOLE SOFFIT, LIKE EVERYTHING THAT'S LIKE, UM, HORIZONTAL, HORIZONTAL WOULD BE, UM, ONLINE. SO IT, IT STARTS OFF LIKE AT NINE FEET AND THEN IT PUSHES UP WHERE THE ENTRANCES ARE. SO ALL OF THAT WOULD BE ONLINE. AND THEN TECHNICALLY THE CAN YOU, CAN YOU, THERE'S A PICTURE YOU CAN SHOW THAT SHOWS SOME OF THE SOFFIT AND SOME OF THE, UM, THERE YOU GO. 'CAUSE YOU CAN SEE, SEE HOW THE BRICK BECOMES SOME OF THE SOFFIT TOO, LIKE RIGHT HERE. YES. SO HOW, WHERE ARE, WHERE ARE WE STOPPING THE ONLINE? THE ONLINE WOULD BE FOR THE HORIZONTAL PARTS AND THEN FOR LIKE THE SOFFIT FACE. 'CAUSE THEY WOULD, WE WOULD KEEP ALL OF THAT ONLINE. LET'S, LET'S USE WHITE AND BROWN SINCE WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE FIGURING OUT COLOR. WHO'S, WHO'S USING WHAT TERMINOLOGY. OKAY. IN THIS PICTURE. OKAY. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, I THINK MANUEL IS THE WHITE WOULD BE ONLINE GRAY, THAT BECOMES THE ONLINE AND BROWN BECOMES THE WHITE. YES. JUST COLOR CHANGE OCCURS AT THE MATERIAL CHANGE. YES. AS IT SHOWS ON THE, AS IT SHOWS ON THERE, THAT'S THE COLOR CHANGE. YES. YEP. AND THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING. THE LITTLE BIT OF BREAK THAT'S THERE, KIND OF LIKE POINTING INTO THE BUILDING THAT WOULD BE PAINTED IN, IN THE WHITE. UM, AND THEN THE REST WOULD BE THE ONLINE. WHILE YOU'RE HERE WITH THAT, WITH THAT ON, WITH THE WALL LIGHT FIXTURE THERE, ARE YOU PAINTING THOSE? UH, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE WALL PACK? THE WALL PACK RIGHT THERE ON THE COLUMN, RIGHT. THE THE LIGHTS. THE LIGHT ON THE SIDE OF THE COLLAR. ARE YOU PAINTING THAT OR? OH, I THINK THOSE WE WOULD PRESSURE WASH 'CAUSE I THINK THEY LOOK PRE-FINISHED. UM, BUT IF WE NEED TO THROW A COLOR ON THEM, I COULD, WE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE. UM, 'CAUSE THEY HAVE A COUPLE LIGHTS THROUGHOUT. I THINK THEY HAVE, UM, WE, WE DIDN'T REALLY, WE JUST WOULD NEED TO CLEAN THOSE. I THINK THOSE ARE KIND OF, UM, THEY LOOK, THEY, THEY ALMOST MATCH, UM, LIKE THE METAL, THE CURRENT METAL COPING. YEAH. SO YOU THINK THEY'LL CLEAN UP AND SO WE CAN CLEAN THEM, BUT IF WE, IN ORDER TO KEEP LIKE A CLEAN COLOR SCHEME, WE CAN UM, HIT THOSE WITH THE ONLINE. UM, I DON'T THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY DISCUSSED. 'CAUSE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF A COUPLE LIGHTS AND WE WOULD JUST PRESSURE WASH THEM FOR THEM. UM, BUT WE COULD HIT THOSE INTO ONLINE IF NEEDED. UM, I THINK THERE'S, UH, TWO PER ENTRANCE. A LOT OF TIMES THOSE PRE-FINISHED LIGHT FIXTURES DON'T ACCEPT PAINT VERY WELL. NO, THEY'RE PAINTED ICE. IT'LL BE PEELING BRONZES AND DUST. UM, ARE YOU DOING ANYTHING TO THE PARAPET CAP AT THE TOP OF THE, UM, IT WAS, UH, PROP. SO BECAUSE THE, THE COLOR ON THIS ONE, UM, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS THE SAME AS THE BUILDING ACROSS. I THINK THE BUILDING ACROSS DID NOT PAINTED. WE, THAT WAS A, LIKE AN ALTERNATE OPTION THAT WE HAVE WITH THE OWNER WHERE, UM, UM, IT, IT [01:25:01] LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT PAINTED. SO IF WE PAINT IT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD NEED TO PAINT IT. BUT AFTER SPEAKING WITH, YOU KNOW, UM, THIS MORNING IT SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD PAINT IT IN THE ONLINE TO KIND OF OFFSET IT. AND I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE WITH THEM. UM, IT, IT WOULD BE MORE SO LIKE, UM, WE WERE, IT WAS JUST KIND OF UP IN THE AIR. LIKE WE WEREN'T FULLY SURE IF IT NEEDED TO BE PAINTED BECAUSE IT MIGHT JUST NEED TO BE WASHED. UM, BUT PAINTING IT IN THE ONLINE WAS WHAT I RECOMMENDED TO THEM. AND SO I THINK IT WAS MORE SO LIKE A POTENTIAL COSTING. BUT IF THE APPROVAL IS LIKE IT'S A GOAT AND PAINT THAT, UM, METAL COPING, I DON'T SEE WHY THEY WOULD NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH PAINTING IT IN ONLINE. I THOUGHT WE SAID PAINT THAT IN THE ONLINE. ONLINE. OKAY. I JUST, OKAY. I JUST WANT, YEAH, SO THAT'S GONNA BE THE ONLINE, SO THAT'S THE LIGHTER GRAY. THAT'S NO, THAT'S THE DARKER GRAY. THAT'S THE, THE DARKER GRAY. THAT'S RIGHT. AND EVEN THE DARKER GRAY, NOT VERY DARK. WELL, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD TALK ABOUT THE ONLINE COLOR 'CAUSE ESPECIALLY IF WE INTRODUCE THE CRUSHED ICE, THE, THE MEDIUM GRAY. I ALMOST FEEL LIKE THE ONLINE NEEDS TO GO A SMIDGE DARKER AT THE TOP IN THE BOTTOM OF THE COLUMNS. I DON'T, I LIKE THE WAY THAT THE RENDERINGS ARE REPRESENTING AND I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE A LITTLE DARKER THAN WHAT THIS ACTUALLY, THIS COLOR IS ON THE CHIP. MANUEL, DID YOU HAPPEN TO PUT EYES ON THE ONLINE COMPARED TO THAT CAP COLOR? UM, IS THAT CAP DARKER THAN THE ONLINE COLOR? I THINK THIS ONE IN PERSON LOOKS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF LIKE A BRONZE, KIND OF LIKE BRONZE, LIKE ALMOST BLACK. IT'S LIKE A, YEAH, SO IT'S NOT A BLACK FOR SHIRT, IT'S MORE OF A BRONZE. AND UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE LIGHTS AS WELL. AND, AND SO WHEN I WENT ACROSS THE STREET TO GO LOOK AT THE BUILDING, THEY WANTED TO KIND OF MATCH. UM, IT WAS HARD TO REALLY TELL BECAUSE IT, IT, IT WAS UM, NOT LIKE THEIRS. SO THERE'S JUST DIRTY. SO ONCE YOU PRESSURE WASH IT, YOU'RE GOING TO GET LIKE A DIFFERENT COLOR. UM, AND SO BEING THAT FAR AWAY, IF IT IS A DARK COLOR, LET'S JUST SAY WHAT I MEAN, AND, AND CLEANS UP NICELY, WOULD IT NEED TO BE, COULD IT, COULD IT JUST BE THE COLOR THAT IT IS AND DO UNDERNEATH IT IN THE COLOR SCHEME? OR DO YOU THINK HE NEEDS TO PAINT IT IN A, IN THE GRAY? I THINK THE BIG, FOR ME, UH, THE BIG DISTINCTION IS TO HAVE CONTRAST WITH THE WHITE. SO IF IT CLEANS UP GOOD, I MEAN I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN ISSUE. I THINK IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM THE UNDER SOFFIT IN THE BASE THAT JENNIFER, IS THAT SORT OF WHERE YOU WERE HEADING, THAT YOU FELT LIKE THERE WASN'T GONNA BE ENOUGH CONTRAST BETWEEN THE I THINK SO. I THINK THAT WITH THE ONLINE COLOR AND THEN ALSO INTRODUCING THAT CRUSHED ICE IN THAT KIND OF FIELD, UM, THAT THE ONLINE WASN'T GONNA BE ENOUGH OF A CONTRAST. BRETT, DO WE HAVE OUR, DON'T WE HAVE OUR SHERWIN WILLIAMS PAINT? I THOUGHT IT WAS IN THE DRAWER. YEAH, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA HAVE THOSE COLORS. I MEAN 'CAUSE THEY CHANGE IT PRETTY MUCH YEARLY. GOT ENOUGH. BUT I MEAN WE CAN POTENTIALLY GET THERE. I'M JUST THINKING, I, WHAT I WAS THINKING IS, IS THAT SORT OF WHERE YOU WERE GOING? THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE DARKER THAN THE, THAN THE, I THINK BOTH WOULD NEED TO BE THE, MAYBE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING THE DARKER COLOR TO THE BOTTOM OF THE COLUMNS AND THEN ALSO ALONG THE TOP. SO JUST, BUT IF WE LEFT THE ORIGINAL COLOR, I THINK THE EXISTING, WELL, I DON'T THINK, I'M PRETTY SURE THE EXISTING COPING IS GONNA BE DARKER THAN THE ONLINE. IT'S NOT UH, UH, THE, ON THE, THE, THE GRAY IS NOT LIKE A DEEP BASE GRAY. IT'S, IT'S A GRAY AND I THINK THE CURRENT COPING ON THERE, IT'S ACTUALLY DARKER, UH, ONCE PRESSURE WASHED. UM, I THINK PAINTING IT THE ONLINE, WHICH IS THE, THE GRAY, UM, IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT LIGHTER. UM, AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHIPS THERE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, UM, IT'S THE 74. 76 47. YEAH. ALRIGHT. PROBABLY CAN FIND IT HERE ONCE. I'LL LET YOU. SO HERE, HERE IS THE, UH, THE KIND OF THE GRAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS ONE'S ONLINE AND I THINK, I THINK SHE'S JUST THINKING THAT WE MIGHT GO A LITTLE DARKER LIKE NETWORK GRAY. YEAH. AND THAT WOULD GIVE US SOME. AND WHAT'S THE OTHER, WHAT'S THE, UH, YEAH, SEE THIS IS, THIS IS ONLINE. THAT'S NETWORK GRAY. THIS ONE IS ONLINE AND THEN A LITTLE BIT DARKER. IS NETWORK GRAY? YEAH, [01:30:01] THAT OKAY. . WELL, I THINK SO I WAS GONNA MENTION THAT IN . I WAS GONNA MENTION THAT IN YOUR MOTION THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE APPLICATION IS FOR AS PRESENTED. SO WE'RE WE, SHOULD WE, WE NEED TO NOT JUST APPROVE AN OPTION, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE APPLICATION. SO YOU EITHER DENY THE APPLICATION, THIS IS MY THOUGHTS, EITHER DENY THE APPLICATION AND GIVE THEM AN OPTION OR YOU APPROVE THE APPLICATION, BUT GIVE THEM A PREFERRED OPTION FOR YOU WOULD BE THIS OTHER THING. SO, WELL WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH WHAT THEY PRESENTED BECAUSE HE WENT BACK TO 'EM WITH WHAT WE SUGGESTED. THEY SAID WE'D RATHER HAVE IT THIS WAY. OH, SO THE, SO THE OWNER WANTS IT AS PRESENTED? YES. UM, THEY REPLIED WHILE I WAS SITTING OVER THERE AND THEY LIKE THE GRAY BASIS. UM, BUT I HAVE NOT PRESENTED THE, THE ACCENT COLOR. 'CAUSE I WAS STILL KIND OF WORKING ON THAT. SO IT WAS JUST KIND OF LIKE WITHIN THE LAST DAY AND A HALF. AND SO THEY WANT THE ALL WHITE WITH JUST THE UNDERSIDE, BUT I ALREADY TOLD THEM LIKE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THE CITY IS GOING TO, OR I DON'T WANNA SAY THE WORD APPROVE, BUT IT'S NOT WHAT THE CITY LIKES, UM, BASED ON THE BUILDING THEY WERE TRYING TO COPY. AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I TOLD THEM WE WILL NEED TO ADD SOME TYPE OF ACCENT SO THEY ARE AWARE OF THAT. UM, I THINK THE GRAY BASIS, THE UM, PAINTING THE, THE COPING, UM, KEEPS IT CLEAN. UM, AND I THINK I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. UM, 'CAUSE THEY ARE, UM, THEY REACHED OUT TO US FOR OUR ADVICE AND LIKE HELPING THEM COME UP WITH THE COLOR SCHEME. AND, AND SO IF, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE PER WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE IS LIKE HAVING A LIGHTER OR A DARKER SHADE OF WHITE. IF WE PRESENT IT TO THEM, UM, THEY'LL JUST BE LIKE, OKAY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THE CITY'S GONNA APPROVE. THEY WANT TO PAINT IT. SO I DON'T THINK HAVING AN UNPAINTED BUILDING IS AN OPTION FOR THEM. UM, AND IF, AND, AND THE MAJORITY OF THE BUILDING IS STILL GONNA BE THE SNOW DOWN. 'CAUSE I MEAN LIKE I SAID, IT'S I THINK LIKE 500, 700 FEET PER SIDE. UM, AND SO IF WE DO THE ACCIDENT, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD BE OKAY WITH. UM, AND THEN THE BASIS, LIKE THEY SAID IN THE, IN THE COPING, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WHERE THEY WOULD BE LIKE, THAT MAKES SENSE. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE CHANGING THEIR FULL COLOR, THEY'RE STILL KEEPING THE WHITE. IT'S JUST A COUPLE SECTIONS ARE GONNA GO GREAT. SO THEY'RE OKAY WITH WHAT WE'RE SAYING. THEY JUST DON'T WANT THE CRUSH DICE? UH, NO. THEY HAVE, THEY IT'S UM, THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO AN ACCENT COLOR. OKAY. AND SO IT'S JUST UM, THAT'S THE ONE THAT I HAVE FIGURED THAT'S THE CLOSEST ONE THAT WE'RE GONNA GET WOULD BE THE CRUSHED ICE TO STILL MAINTAIN KIND OF LIKE THE WHITE. I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA THROW IN ANOTHER OPTION HERE THAT I THINK MIGHT DON'T DO IT. I KNOW , IF WE'RE GONNA TRY, IF WE'RE THINKING WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THE PARAPET CAP IN, LET'S JUST CALL IT A DARK BRONZE, THAT IT CLEANS UP NICELY. I THINK WE, WE GET RID OF THE ONLINE GRAY ON THE BASE CAPS. 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S EVERYBODY'S SORT OF GOING LIKE WHAT WOULD, SO MATCHY MATCH TOP AND BOTTOM. SO DARK BRONZE BASES ON ALL THE COLUMNS. SNOW SNOWBOUND ON THE, ON THE FACE FIELD COLOR AND THEN JUST THAT CRUSHED ICE IN THE CENTER. I DON'T LIKE THE DARK BRONZE. IT'S TOO MUCH CONTRAST I THINK AT THE BASE. AND IT'S A DIFFERENT FAMILY OF COLORS. YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, YOU'RE KIND OF OUTSIDE OF THE, I I I COULD, I COULD SEE IT AT THE TOP BECAUSE OKAY, IT'S, IT'S JUST A CAP AND UH, IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM EVERYTHING. BUT THEN IT STARTS LOOKING A LITTLE BIT FRANKENSTEIN WHEN YOU INTRODUCE THAT ON SPLOTCHING ALL OVER THE, IF WE HAVE, IF WE HAVE ANY GRAY, I DON'T THINK THE DARK BRONZE WOULD WORK. I MEAN UP ON THE CAP IT'S, YEAH, I THINK ON THE CAP IT'S SEPARATE. THERE'S SO FAR UP YOU'RE NOT REALLY GONNA NOTICE IT. BUT BRONZE AND GRAY DON'T REALLY, I LIKE THE ONLINE ON THE CAP PERSONALLY, BUT I DO, I DO TOO. BUT IF, IF IT'S, I LIKE THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL. I PERSONALLY LIKE THE ONLINE THE TOP TWO. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE PROPOSED, BUT THEY WERE JUST KIND OF LIKE, FOR COST PURPOSES, IF WE DON'T NEED TO PAINT IT, LET'S NOT PAINT IT. BUT I THINK THEY SHOULD PAINT IT 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA, IT'S DARKER, WHICH, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SAID, LIKE YES, IT'LL OFFSET IT MORE, BUT IF YOU'RE PAINTING THE WHOLE BUILDING TO LEAVE THE CAP IN THE BRONZE THAT MATCHES THE ORIGINAL BRICK DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT, THAT WAS JUST, I THINK DOING THE ONLINE ON THE TOP, HAVING THE SNOWBOUND THROUGHOUT, HAVING [01:35:01] THE CRUSH ICE IN THE FACES AND THEN DOING THE BASES IN THE ONLINE, UM, MAKES IT STILL KEEPS IT CLEAN. IT KEEPS IT ORGANIZED AND UNIFORMED. AND LIKE YOU MENTIONED, IT'S NOT GONNA JUST START THROWING LIKE A BUNCH OF COLORS ON IT. 'CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY'RE STILL GONNA HAVE A WHITE BUILDING. JUST A COUPLE OF SHADED AREAS THAT ARE ACCENTED. UM, I ACTUALLY LIKE THE CRUSHED ICE. I THINK IT'S ENOUGH CONTRAST WITH THE, THE CHANGE OF DEPTH IN THE BUILDING PERSONALLY. BUT I AGREE. OKAY. I'M STILL CONFUSED, BUT I'M GONNA DO THIS. I'M GONNA ASK, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THIS APPLICATION? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. NO PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GIVE THIS A TRY. I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA GO ALONG WITH THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL AND WE'LL SEE WHAT THE BOARD THINKS. UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, REGARDING DRB 2 6 0 0 1 4 CSI LABS, UM, MOTION TO APPROVE THE PAINTING, UH, AS PRESENTED TODAY WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. THE BRICK ON THE ENTRANCE SECTIONS WILL BE PAINTED IN THE CRUSHED ICE, INCLUDING THE COLUMNS, ALL COLUMN BASES, PARA PITT AND THE, UH, UNDERSIDE. SOFFIT WILL BE IN THE SHERWIN-WILLIAMS 7 0 7 2 ONLINE COLOR. AND THE REST OF THE BRICK IN THE BUILDING WILL BE PAINTED IN THE SW 7 0 0 4 SNOWBOUND AS PRESENTED. AND A MOTION. CAN I MAKE ONE CLARIFICATION? UM, OR NEED A SECOND? OH, SORRY, SECOND WHO? SECOND WHO? SECONDS. WELL WE NEED A SECOND. HAS ANYBODY SECOND? MOTION. OH, SECOND. ALRIGHT, MR. OWENS A SECOND. HANG ON. JUST WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY MR. SWING. A SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY MR. SWING. A SECOND BY MR. OWENS. NOW WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION ON THAT. OKAY. UH, QUICK CLARIFICATION. YOU, YOU MENTIONED THE PARA PIT BEING ONLINE, IT'S REALLY JUST THE COPING, CORRECT? YEAH. YES. THE, THE, OKAY. THE, THE YES. THE COPING. OKAY. YES. JUST THE COPING OR THE PARAPET CAP. IF YOU THE PARAPET CAP. PARAPET CAP OR THE COPING, YEAH. PARAPET CAP. OKAY. CAN WE, ALRIGHT, WE STILL NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE ORIGINAL BECAUSE THERE'S NOT REALLY A PARAPET OTHER THAN THAT. NO, NO. I MEAN WITH THE ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL, HE SAID MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE FOLLOWING. THE FOLLOWING WITH THE FOLLOW DENYING THE ORIGINAL WITH THE FOLLOW, WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. SO, SO WE'RE DENYING THE ORIGINAL, YOU'RE DENYING THE ORIGINAL AND AS PRESENTED TODAY. SO IF THEY DON'T WANT TO DO WHAT YOU WANT, IT'S DENY. YES. CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE NEED, I THINK WE NEED TO, I MEAN, ISN'T HAVE A DENIAL OF SUBMISSION. ISN'T THIS NORMALLY WHAT WE DO? WE APPROVE IT IS AND THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTION OH HAS THERE? OKAY. BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE DESIGN ON THE FLY, WHICH IS OKAY, BUT WE DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH WHAT THEY PRESENTED, WHICH IS WHAT THEY WANT. BUT YOU APPROVED IT AS SUBMITTED WITH CONDITIONS, AS PRESENTED WITH CONDITIONS THAT YOU STILL WANT US TO DENY. I MEAN I FEEL LIKE IT SORT OF GETS THERE, BUT IT REALLY DOESN'T SAY, NO YOU CAN'T DO THIS, BUT YOU COULD DO THIS. SO PROCEDURALLY NOW, UNLESS WE APPROVE EXACTLY WHAT'S SUBMITTED, WE ARE DENYING THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION. THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD SORT OF MOVE TOWARDS. NOW IF YOU'VE GOT A REPRESENTATIVE HERE THAT CAN SPEAK AND CAN APPROVE IT, THEN I THINK YOU'RE IN A DIFFERENT SCENARIO. BUT IN THIS CASE, WE'VE GOT SOMEONE HERE THAT CAN'T MAKE THAT DECISION. CAN CAN YOU ARE, DO YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY OF THE OWNER TO MAKE PAINT COLOR CHANGES? UM, I THINK THE ONE THAT YOU GUYS, YES OR NO? I WOULD SAY YES. 'CAUSE IF, IF THEY SAY LIKE IF YOU GUYS APPROVE IT AND THEY DON'T WANT TO PROCEED, THEN IT WOULD JUST WOULDN'T GET DONE. AND SO I THINK, UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, BUT THAT'S NOT, AND SO I'M, I'M KIND OF, UM, I, THEY KNOW THAT WE ARE GONNA DO SOME ACCENTS AND SO WE HELPED PICK THE COLORS. THEY DIDN'T PICK THEIR COLORS. WE, WE KIND OF PUT IT TOGETHER. OKAY. I WOULD JUST SAY, YEAH, I WOULD JUST SAY NO, WE, YEAH, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO, I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE SUBMISSION BESIDES APPROVE IT TODAY WITH THESE CHANGES. OKAY. COULD, COULD WE WOULD A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THIS MOTION? YEAH, I THINK YOU COULD GET THERE TO SAY AS LONG AS WE JUST SAY WE ARE NOT APPROVING YES. THE PROPOSED PAINT SCHEME, BUT WE ARE CONDITIONING IT TO BE THIS AND YOU COULD DO THIS AND YOU, IF YOU DO THIS, IT'S APPROVED BY THE BOARD. YOU DON'T DO THIS, IT'S NOT APPROVED. YEAH. AND THEY CAN'T DO IT. YES. THAT I THINK THAT COME BACK TO US. OKAY. SO FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO CLARIFY THAT WE ARE DENYING THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION IN FAVOR OF WHAT WE APPROVED. SO LET'S HAVE SOMEBODY, LET'S [01:40:01] HAVE A THIRD PARTY MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS. NOT, NOT YOU MR. SCH. I CAN'T BE FRIENDLY, I CAN'T MAKE MY OWN OWN FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. OKAY. UH, MR CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO DENY THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION A, UH, AS PRESENTED TO US, UH, WITH THE ONLY OPTION FOR APPROVAL, UM, BEING THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED BY MR. SCH END OF MOTION OR END OF FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. SECOND, UH, I ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. OKAY, LET'S SEE. SO WE HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT ON THE FLOOR. MR. SWING IS ACCEPTED. THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. MR. OWENS, DO YOU ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS? YES, I DO. OKAY. ALRIGHT. IT'S BEEN ACCEPTED BY BOTH PARTIES. WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON THAT. NOT PART OF IT. OKAY. UM, JUST FOR MY CLARIFICATION, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE ONE OF THE FRONT ENTRANCE PICTURES SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE, WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE. YOU WANT ME TO DO IT? SO WHAT THE CONDITION SAYS IS EVERYTHING YOU SEE RIGHT THERE IS GOING TO BE CRUSHED ICE EXCEPT FOR THE BOTTOM OF THE COLUMN, THE PARAPET CAP. GO, GO BACK ONE PICTURE. GO BACK TO THE BROWN AND THE WHITE IN THAT PICTURE RIGHT, THOSE WILL BE SNOWED, CORRECT? YEP. NO, NO, NO, NO. BE ONLINE. ONLINE? YES. ONLINE. ALRIGHT, MY BAD. ALRIGHT, SORRY. ALRIGHT, LET'S GO THROUGH ONE MORE TIME. SO ONE MORE TIME. SO ALL OF THE BROWN BRICK EXCEPT FOR THE COLUMN BASES IS CRUSH SNOWBOUND. NO CRUSHED ICE. CRUSHED ICE CRUSH. SORRY. ALL THE BROWN BRICK IS CRUSHED ICE. RIGHT COLUMN BASES THOUGH. GET THE DARKER GRAY, WHICH IS SNOWBOUND ALONG WITH THE ONLINE. NO, CAN'T DO IT. CAN I, CAN, CAN I CLARIFY? YEAH, GO AHEAD. OKAY. ALRIGHT, HERE WE GO. UM, ALL OF THE MASONRY SHOWN IN THE PICTURE FROM THE CONTROL JOINT, UH, RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE, THE FOUR COLUMNS WILL BE CRUSHED ICE WITH EXCEPTION OF THE BASES OF THE COLUMNS, WHICH WILL BE ONLINE, THE UNDERSIDE OF THE SOFFIT, WHICH WILL BE ONLINE AND THE COPING WILL BE ONLINE. PERFECT. THAT SOUND GOOD? GOT IT. PERFECT. YEP. WHEW. THAT'S WHAT I SAID. YEAH, . OKAY. AND THEN YOU ALSO SAID THE REMAINDER OF THE BUILDING THEN WILL BE SNOWBOUND SNOW SNOWBOUND THE WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED SNOW. BUT THE COLUMN BASES WILL BE ONLINE EXCEPT FOR THE THROUGHOUT. AND THE COPING WILL BE ONLINE THROUGHOUT. THROUGHOUT? YES. AND THE UNDER SOFFIT WILL BE ONLINE THROUGHOUT? YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. DO WE NEED ANOTHER FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? NO. OKAY. WE GOT IT. JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE ALRIGHT. LET'S ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND, NOT JUST WHAT'S AT THE ENTRANCE. ALRIGHT, HERE WE GO. SO NOT LOOKING AT THE FOUR BAY ENTRANCE THAT WE JUST DESCRIBED, DESCRIBE TO US, I'LL, I'LL GO TO MR. ROWAN. WHAT COLORS? THE, THE MAIN PART OF THE BUILDINGS ARE. OKAY. AGAIN, SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND. SURE. SO THE MAJORITY OF THE EXTERIOR MASONRY WILL BE THE, UH, WHAT'S THE WHITE COLOR? SNOWBOUND? SNOWBOUND WITH EXCEPTION OF, I'LL START WITH ONLINE, WHICH IS THE DARK GRAY. UH, ALL OF THE COOKING ON THE ENTIRE BUILDING WILL BE ONLINE. ALL OF THE UNDER SOFFIT, UH, WILL BE ONLINE AND ALL OF THE MASONRY BASES THAT ARE, UM, AND PYLA ARE BASES WILL BE ONLINE. THE FRONT ENTRANCE MASONRY WITH EXCEPTION OF THE ONLINE AREAS JUST PRESENTED WILL ALL BE CRUSHED ICE. OKAY. BETWEEN CONTROL JOINT, JUST OUTSIDE THE COLUMNS ON BOTH SIDES? MM-HMM . OKAY. ALRIGHT. IS EVERYBODY CLEAR NOW? I THINK THAT HELPS WITH THE THANK YOU FOR THAT SURE. DESCRIPTION. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? OKAY. ALRIGHT, I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF A MOTION THAT CONCLUDES THE FRIENDLY. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. [01:45:01] 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. ALL OPPOSED? ONE OPPOSED. SO MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ONE. THANK YOU. NOW I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. YES. THERE'S A TRUCK LOADING DOCK SHELTER IN THE BACK. WHAT ARE YOU PAINTING THAT COLOR? WHAT ARE YOU PAINTING THAT STRUCTURE? THE CANOPY? YES. UH, WE'RE NOT, AND THE COLUMNS WE WERE, I THINK THE WHOLE CANOPY WITH THE STEEL COLUMNS ALL LOOKED PRE-FINISHED AND SO WE DID NOT, YOU'RE NOT TOUCHING THAT? WE'RE NOT TOUCHING IT. IT, IT, IT'S KIND OF, WE SAID TO REMAIN AS EXISTING. THERE IS LIKE A GENERATOR BOX, UM, LIKE A LITTLE ENCLOSURE THAT'S GETTING ENCLOSURE THAT'S GETTING PAINTED AND THEN THE TRASH ENCLOSURE ALL THE WAY ON THE BACK. UM, WE'RE ALSO PAINTING IT IN THE SAME SCHEME. UM, SO, BUT, BUT WE WE'RE NOT REALLY MESSING. UM, LIKE YOU GUYS MENTIONED, YOU CAN PAINT IT PRIME IT, BUT IF IT STARTS FLAKING THEN IT'S JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, AN ISSUE FOR THEM TO MAINTAIN IT WHERE WE DIDN'T MESS WITH IT. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANKS. ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU VERY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. APPRECIATE IT. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, LET'S TAKE A, UH, BEFORE THE NEXT APPLICANT COMES UP, WHICH IS GONNA BE, UH, SAPPORO SUSHI AND STEAKHOUSE. LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS TO UH, STAND UP, MOVE AROUND, GET SOME COFFEE REFILLED. ALRIGHT. GIVE US, GIVE US FIVE MINUTES, BUT YOU CAN COME ON DOWN AND GET SET UP IF YOU WANT, PLEASE. OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND END OUR RECESS THIS MORNING AND [5. DRB260015     Sapporo Sushi & Steak House     10575 Davis Dr Consideration of exterior changes] GET STARTED WITH OUR NEXT APPLICANT. THAT IS SAPPORO SAPPORO SUSHI AND STEAKHOUSE. SO YOU'RE HERE, WE CAN SHARE 'EM. ALRIGHT, GOOD MORNING. WELCOME. IF YOU WILL, UM, MAKE SURE YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THE MICROPHONE. YES. INTRODUCE YOURSELF THIS MORNING AND THEN GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR PACKET TODAY, PLEASE. OKAY. YEAH. GOOD MORNING. UH, THIS IS CHUNG SI CHEN, I'M ARCHITECT AND, UH, BROTHER LYNN. TOGETHER WE'RE GONNA PRESENT, UH, HOW WE COULD DO, UH, MAKE A REMO REMODELING OF THIS, UH, ELEVATION OF THIS EXISTING BUILDING. ALRIGHT. THIS IS, UH, WHAT WE SEE RIGHT NOW ON THE PICTURE IS, UH, EXISTING BUILDING WHAT IT LOOK LIKE. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, WE HAVE SOME, SOME DRAWING WE TRY TO SHARE WITH YOU. AND IF YOU'LL, IF YOU'LL MAKE SURE YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE, GO. OKAY. OKAY. IT'S FINE. THANK YOU. UH, MAINLY WE MODIFY THIS EXISTING BUILDING ON THE SIDE AND THE FRONT VIEW. MAINLY WE JUST CHANGE THE TWO SIDES. OKAY. THE THIRD SIDES, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF WOODS IN VIEW BEHIND ALSO BUILDINGS IT BE HIGHER. SO WE, WHEN WE APPROACH THIS BUILDING, WE ONLY SEE THE TWO SIDES. OKAY. SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING, THE ELEVATION CHANGES AND THAT IS WHY ALSO WHEN YOU SEE THIS TO TO, TO HIGH OR TO YEAR COME UP BECAUSE THE THIRD SIDE, WE, WE DIDN'T CHANGE THAT MUCH JUST LIKE THIS ONE. SO I'M SORRY, GO BACK TO THAT FIRST BOARD THAT YOU WERE JUST HOLDING UP. UM, TELL US, SO THE, THE ELEVATION NEAR THE TOP, THAT'S WHAT FACES MANSEL ROAD, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THE MANSEL ROAD ELEVATION? YES. YES. OKAY. MAIN ELEVATION. ALRIGHT. AND THEN THE ELEVATION AT THE BOTTOM OF THE BOARD, THERE IT IS. ION FACES DAVIS DRIVE. RIGHT. OKAY. AND THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY ELEVATIONS YOU'RE LOOKING AT? THAT'S RIGHT. AND THE, WE DIDN'T DO TOO MUCH BECAUSE IT'S UH, ON THIS SIDE IS WOODS AND THEN NOBODY SEE IT AND BEHIND IT CHANGE AND WHICH. RIGHT. SO WHICH SIDES ARE THOSE THAT YOU JUST POINTED OUT? THAT'S, I'M GONNA SAY THAT'S THE SIDE THAT FACES GEORGIA 401 OF THOSE. THIS IS THE FRONT RIGHT NOW, THIS IS A SITE, JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE GET ORIENTED ON ALL FOUR ELEVATIONS. OKAY. MM-HMM . YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. MENTIONED THAT IT'S NOT, UH, ON THIS SIDE IT'S NOTHING. WE DIDN'T CHANGE THAT MUCH. BUT WE WILL SEE ON THIS SIDE, WE WILL SEE THAT, UH, ON TOP, THAT THING IS STILL THERE. [01:50:01] UM, WE DID ALSO PAINTED THE WALL BRICK WALL ON THE FRONT EXISTING AREA TO THE, TO THAT BROWN LITTLE BIT VARNISH COLOR OR BE COLOR. YOU HAVE TO THE MIC. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE USE THAT, THE COLOR TO CHANGE THE BRAKE EXISTING BRICK. YEAH. CHANGE, EXCUSE BREAK. AND, UH, WE ADD THE TOP BECAUSE HEIGHT WE WANT TO HIDING THE MAKE THE BUILDING LOOKS, UH, LOOKS DIFFERENT. OKAY. IT LOOKS, UH, MORE MODERN AND WE ADDED THE FRONT PARAPET AND THE SIDE PARAPET. OKAY. AND LEAVE THE BEHIND THE LAST PART. OKAY. STARCO PART, WE JUST CHANGED THE COLOR. UM, IS THERE A WAY ON OUR MONITORS THAT YOU CAN BRING UP THIS ELEVATION? CAN YOU ON THE, ON THE MONITOR, ON YOUR COMPUTER ON ELEVATION? SURE. YES. CAN YOU BRING THAT ELEVATION UP? I THINK IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT HELPFUL. MORE HELPFUL FOR US. OKAY. YEAH. OH, GO BACK. OH, OKAY. YOU SAW THAT? OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT. SO NOW DOES YOUR POINTER, DOES YOUR MOUSE OR POINTER WORK ON THAT? YES. ALRIGHT. SO AS HE IS DESCRIBING UHHUH, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO HOLD THE BOARDS UP ON OUR MONITORS. CAN YOU JUST WITH YOUR POINTER SHOW WHICH AREAS RIGHT. SHOW THAT IS, UH, THE ADDITION OF THE PARAPET. WE ADD ON, UH, WITH THE LIGHT STRIPE ON THE TOP AND ALSO LIGHT STRIPE AT THE BOTTOM. SO AT NIGHT WE WILL, WE'LL LITTEN UP FOR, UH, SHOWING THAT, UH, THE AREA AND ALSO WE CHANGE THE CANOPY COLOR. LET'S, LET'S DO THIS, LET'S START FROM THE GROUND AND WORK OUR WAY UP IF WE CAN. WORKING UP FROM GROUND ON THE DIFFERENT MATERIALS. YEAH. JUST TO WALK US THROUGH THAT. ALRIGHT. SO THIS IS THE ELEVATION THAT FACES MANSELL ROAD YES. THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? MM-HMM . ALRIGHT, LET'S START WITH THE GROUND AT THE BASE OF THE BUILDING. OKAY. WHAT ARE, ARE YOU DOING OR MAKE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING THERE? FROM THE GROUND IS, UH, WE HAVE, UH, BECAUSE OUR EXISTING WINDOW, UH, WE, WE SEE THAT THE, THAT GROUND ONLINE AND UH, THE WINDOW IS, UH, WE, WE CHANGE TO THE STOREFRONT, ALUMINUM STOREFRONT WINDOW BECAUSE THAT ORIGINAL WINDOW IS, UH, WOOD AND SO IT'S, UH, DETERIORATED, UH, IN THAT CERTAIN WAY. SO THAT'S THE, UM, THOSE ARE THE WINDOWS. MM-HMM . SO WE CHANGE IT. SO THIS IS, ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS THE EXISTING ELEVATION, RIGHT? VERY GOOD. OKAY. AND, UH, AS LONG AS THE LANDSCAPE WE HAVE, UH, WE NEED ASKING THE LANDSCAPE PERSON TO, TO DO THE LANDSCAPE PART. SO NOT, WE DIDN'T SHOW THAT YET. YEAH. OKAY. WELL LET'S JUST STICK TO THE BUILDING. THAT'S GOOD. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO THOSE LOOKS LIKE THE EXISTING TO THE LEFT THERE, THOSE, THAT'S EXISTING WOOD WINDOWS OR DOORS OR SOMETHING. RIGHT. YOU'RE REMOVING THOSE AND PUTTING STOREFRONT WINDOWS IN. MM-HMM . OKAY. MM-HMM . AND THEN ALSO, AND THE, AND THE STOREFRONT WINDOW IS THIS AND THE DOCK BRONZE COLOR, UH, ON THE FRAME. OKAY. WE SHOWING. BLESS YOU. BLESS YOU, BLESS YOU. UH, GOING UP A LITTLE BIT IS A, UH, EXISTING CANOPY, WHICH IS SHOWING THE EXISTING BUILDING. WE STILL KEEP THAT APART AND, BUT WE CHANGED THE COLOR TO, TO A VERY BRIGHT COLOR YELLOW ON THAT. ALRIGHT, SO YOU, YEAH. ALRIGHT. AND YOU'RE LEAVING, ARE YOU LEAVING THE EXISTING STONE ALONG THE BASE? YES, WE DO. YES. OKAY. WE'RE LEAVING THE EXISTING STONE. OKAY. UH, LIKE THAT. RIGHT. AND THE, AND WHERE THE, WHEN THE BRAKE PART WE JUST REPAINTED, UH, PAINTED IT INTO THE COLOR OF, UH, THE LIGHT ONE, RIGHT? YES. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. IS THAT THE RIVER'S EDGE? THE LIGHT COLOR, RIGHT? LIGHT COLOR. THIS ONE? THIS ONE? YES. THIS ONE [01:55:01] HERE. YOUR PAGE. OKAY, THAT'S FROM THE LAST ONE. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ON THIS PICTURE. COLOR MAY BE A LITTLE BIT DARK , SO YEAH, YOU CAN, IT DIDN'T TELL TOO MUCH. THIS IS STOREFRONT OR THE ROOF? THIS ONE. SO ROOF. THE, THE METAL, THE, THE PARAPET CAP, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. ON, ON THE MONITOR. RIGHT NOW, THAT WINDOW, IS THAT ALSO GETTING REPLACED WITH STOREFRONT OR, YES. THAT WINDOW WE DO WINDOW. THAT IS, WELL, THAT SMALLER WINDOW THERE, THAT'S STILL, OH, IT WAS JUST ON YOUR MONITOR. OUR ENTRANCE. YOU JUST HAD IT ACTUALLY COMPARED TO EXISTING. WE RACED THAT WINDOW. EXTRA WASTE UNDER THE . UNDER THE . YES. IS THIS ONE GETTING REPLACED? YES. YES. SO THAT'S ALSO GETTING REPLACED WITH DOOR FRONT. OKAY. THE WINDOW AND DOOR. ALL, ALL ALL OF IT. ALL THE PRESS. YES. SO ALSO ORIGINAL DOOR, THE FRAME. RIGHT. SO I CHANGE IT, CHANGE 'EM ALL. OKAY. AND THEY'RE GONNA BE IN THIS BLACK, THE TRICORN BLACK? YES. OKAY. YEAH. AND ALSO ON THE FRONT OF ENTRANCE WE HAVE AT THE TRANSOM TOP. SO MAKE A RAISE. RAISE THE HEIGHT OF THE ENTRANCE CEILING. THIS ONE, THE ISLAND THAT IS THE SIDE. WHERE IS THAT? I'M SORRY. THE MAIN IN THE TOP. OH, THE, OKAY. THE METAL PART. OKAY. WHICH IS THE, AND THE, UH, AGAIN, ON YOUR MONITOR, THERE'S A DARKER COLOR. WE TALKED ABOUT THE LIGHTER COLOR OF BRICK. THE DARKER COLOR IS, UM, THRESHOLD. THRESHOLD TOE. THE ON YOUR MONITOR THAT THE DARKER COLOR. RIGHT. CAN YOU POINT FOR ME, BRAD? THIS ONE, THIS COLOR? THIS, THIS COLOR? NO, THE DARK COLOR. THIS ONE. THIS, THESE COLORS, THIS COLOR IN THE TOP? NO. WELL, THAT'S NOT RIGHT. OKAY. RIGHT. NO, I WAS GOING FOR THE DARKER PAINT COLOR THAT WAS DOWN TOWARDS THE BASE. THIS ONE, RIGHT? CAN YOU HEAR THE BASE? YEAH, THERE'S A DARKER COLOR THERE. YEAH. THIS ONE? YEAH, THIS BASE. THIS ONE'S THE, SO THAT'S, UH, STUCCO. STUCCO. STUCCO IS COLOR. STUCCO COLOR. IT'S STUCCO COLOR. THE STUCCO COLOR IS NOT STUCCO. SABLE SIMILAR LIKE THIS ONE. OKAY. COLOR. YEAH. OKAY. SO, AND THAT'S BELOW THE BRICK. ON THE FRONT. BELOW THE BRICK. YOU'RE RIGHT. BELOW THE BRICK. YES. SIMILAR TO THIS ONE. SIMILAR TO THAT. SO THAT'S THIS, UH, BROWN. THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE. OKAY. SABLE. OKAY. SO YOU NEED TO MATCH THIS. YOU'RE MATCHING THAT. OKAY. OKAY. THE TOP IN THE, THIS, THIS ONE. OKAY. IS WHERE IS THE TOP? AND WHERE IS THIS COLOR? ON THE TOP. AT THE, WHERE IS THAT COLOR? WHERE IS THIS COLOR? OH, LIKE THE PAGE THRESHOLD TOTE. THE TOP LIGHT EIGHT. OH, JUST AT THE VERY, AT THE, AT THE VERY TOP PARAGRAPH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. CAN I GET ONE CLARIFICATION? THE, THE BASE, UM, THAT'S LISTED AS P FOUR, PT FOUR, IS THAT THE SAME, UH, COLOR AS WCO SEVEN, WHICH IS THE, THE WOOD OR IS THAT A 'CAUSE ON THE RENDERING? IT LOOKS LIKE A LIGHTER COLOR. ALUMINUM. THAT IS THE, THAT IS THAT IS THIS ONE? YEAH. IS THAT THE SAME COLOR AS THE BASE? RIGHT, THE SAME AS BASE. LOOK AT THEY'RE LABELED ON THE BACK. OH, OKAY. NO COLOR STUCCO COLOR. YEAH, THIS ISCO COLOR. SO IT'S THE SAME AS THE BASE, SAME COLOR AS THE STUCCO. OKAY. MATCHING THE TOGETHER. SO THE EXISTING, UM, RESTAURANT HAS THE CURVED PARAPETS, RIGHT? RIGHT. JUST LIKE THAT? YES. ARE YOU, ARE YOU COVERING THOSE UP? ARE YOU TAKING THOSE DOWN? WE COVER IT UP. YOU'RE COVERING THEM UP. SO THOSE ARE GOING AS TALL, RIGHT AS THAT TRY, TRY TO KEEP EXISTING STRUCTURE, BUT WE ADDED ON. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WE SELECT LINE. OKAY. UNDERSTAND. OKAY. MEXICAN STYLE AND THEN MODERN STYLE. MM-HMM . SO CHANGE MODERN RESTAURANT IS DIFFERENT RESTAURANT. MEXICAN RESTAURANT. JAPANESE RESTAURANT. SO MODERN STAR . [02:00:01] OKAY. IT'S A DIFFERENT, ALRIGHT, SO IS EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THE MANSELL ROAD ELEVATION? WHAT'S HAPPENING? WHAT'S CHANGING? I'M SEEING SOME NODS. YES. ALRIGHT, LET'S LOOK. CAN WE, LET'S TURN THE CORNER THERE ON THE DAVIS DRIVE SIDE. SO THE O2 ELEVATION SIDE VIEW. O2. LET'S LOOK, LET'S WALK OUR WAY THROUGH THE O2. YES. THIS ONE ON YOUR MONITOR. THE BOTTOM ELEVATION ON AN ELEVATION, RIGHT? THE SAME. SAME. YEAH. ANYWAY. OKAY. THERE WE GO. OKAY. CALLED THE CORNER. YES. CORNER VIEW LOOKS LIKE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING. WRAPPING AROUND RIGHT? LEAVING THE, LEAVING THE STONE. OKAY. STONE. KEEP THE SAME. WE DIDN'T, I DON'T THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THE DARKER COLOR BAND BETWEEN THE STUCCO AND THE TOP. IS THAT YEAH, THAT IS STUCCO COLOR. STUCCO COLOR. YEAH. WHAT'S THE BAND RIGHT ABOVE THE STUCCO COLOR? RIGHT. AND THE BASE WHERE THE HORIZONTAL, LIKE WHERE THE LIGHTS ARE, WHERE ALL THE LIGHTS ARE MOUNTED BACK RIGHT ABOVE THE CANOPY. DO YOU KNOW WHERE, I MEAN THE, THE BAND BETWEEN THE STUCCO AND THE WAINSCOATING ABOVE THAT DARK BAND IS LIKE THE DARK BRONZE. IS THAT, IS THAT IN THE BLACK? THAT IS ACORN BLACK. LIKE STUCCO COLOR? IT'S DARK. I THINK SO. OH, I THINK IT SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD BE A DARKER COLOR. COLOR. UH, TO, TO GO TO EACH HOUSE. SOME OF THESE IT LABELED EVEN DARKER WHAT THEY SAID. DID THEY SHOW IT ? NO, NO. THIS SAME, SOME HERE. THIS ONE. THAT ONE. OKAY. SO THAT THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE FRAME THAT FRANK, I THINK THAT'S THE TRICORN BLACK. ACTUALLY I FOUND IT LABELED ON THE DIAGRAM. PT ZERO ONE. WHICH ONE IS THIS COLOR? PT ZERO ONE IS ACORN. OKAY, PERFECT. OKAY, PERFECT. OKAY. STUCK. SAME AS IT? YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. WHAT MATERIAL ARE THE CANOPIES? THE YELLOW CANOPIES. WHICH ONE? THE A OR THE AWNINGS? OH, SORRY. YEAH, THE AWNINGS. THE YELLOW. WHAT MATERIAL IS THAT? THIS? YES. CANOPY METAL. AND WHAT ARE THEY MADE OUT OF? METAL. METAL EXISTING. THE CORRUGATED METAL. WE, WE KEEP THE EXISTING AND PAINT IT JUST, WE BEND IT AND JUST PAINT. OH, OKAY. ALRIGHT. BUT THEY'RE NOT SOLID ON THE SIDES? ON THE YEAH, I THINK THEY'RE SOLID ON THIS SIDE. I THINK THEY WRAPPED BACK. YEAH. YEAH. THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE CORRUGATED ON THAT SIDE. YEAH, THEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THEY DO WRAP. THEY DON'T? NO, THEY DON'T. THEY'RE NOT SOLID ON THE ENDS, RIGHT? THEY'RE OPEN. YEAH, THERE'S A FRAME. LOOKS LIKE A WOODEN FRAME OR SOMETHING. THERE IS. THAT'S FINE. THE ONES ON ONE SIDE THEY'RE CORRUGATED. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, A QUESTION ABOUT THE, A QUESTION ABOUT THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE. DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S CONCRETE BLOCK. DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE. DUMPSTER SIX. THE STUCCO, HUH? NO [02:05:03] LIGHT WALLS. WALLS. YOU NO STUCK. THIS. OH, THIS IS YOU BREAK HERE. BREAK EVEN. OKAY, NO PROBLEM. OH, THAT IS, UH, I DID TAKE ANOTHER PICTURE OF SOMEWHERE. YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE CINDER BLOCK. CINDER BLOCK AND THE MORTAR HAVE BEEN STRUCK A VERY ROUGH MORTAR THAT THE DUMPSTER IS EXISTING BRICK, BRICK WALL AROUND. SO WE CHANGED THE SAME BRICK COLOR. A NEW, NEW BRICK COLOR. IT'S NOT BRICK? NO, IT'S LIKE CINDER BLOCK. IT'S IT'S CON IT'S CONCRETE BLOCK. CONCRETE BLOCK THAT'S HAD SOMETHING TORN OFF OF IT. YES. OH WELL NO CONCRETE. IT DID HAVE SOMETHING ON IT. IT DID? YEAH. . OH, YOU THINK THAT'S WHY IT LOOKS LIKE THAT? YEAH. THAT'S WHY IT LOOKS LIKE THAT. IT PROBABLY HAD BRICK ON IT OR SOMETHING. I DUNNO WHAT THEY HAVE ON IT, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY BRICK TIES. SOME WOOD. SOME WOOD SOMETHING SOMETHING. ANYWAY. YEAH. THAT NEEDS, I NEED SOME HELP. THAT'S THE FIRST THING YOU SEE WHEN YOU DRIVE INTO I KNOW THAT'S RIGHT THERE. IT'S RIGHT THERE. YEAH. THAT DOES NOT BRICK. I THINK THAT WAS BLOCKED WITH THE PAINTING, WITH THE, WHAT THEY CALL THAT MORE WHERE YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T BLOCK FILLER, YOU DON'T RUB IT, YOU DON'T NO, YOU DON'T STRIKE THE JOINT. YOU DON'T STRIKE THE JOINT AT ALL. YEAH. BUT JUST THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. AND THAT'S PROBABLY GOT A SOUTHWESTERN THING. THAT'S CORRECT. I SEE WHERE IT KIND OF OOZES OUT. THAT'S TECHNICAL TURN. IT NEEDS SOMETHING. IT CAN. I AGREE. YEAH. BUT THEN YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE TO THE BRICK COLLAR, SAME BRICK COLLAR. YEAH. GONNA PAINT IT. YOU YEAH. PAINTED THAT BRICK COLOR. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT SMOOTH. YOUR ST STUCCO SUB YOUR STUCCO SUB SMOOTH. THE FACE SURFACE YOU CAN STUCCO MAYBE. MAYBE STUCCO, BUT THE, IT DEPENDS, RIGHT? YES, WE CAN, WE CAN FINISH UP ON THE TOP A STUCCO. YEAH. CLOSER TO THE TEXTURE. YES. MATCH THE TEXTURE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WE CAN MAKE A TEXTURE MATCHING IN THE EXISTING STUCCO WALL AND THE COLOR THE SAME. CAN WE SHOW THIS ONE ON THE, ON THIS ONE? OKAY. ALRIGHT. A GOOD THING TOO IS BY RAISING THE PARAPET HEIGHT, THEY'RE GONNA HIDE SOME OF THE, UM, THE HOODS IN THE VENTS ON, ON THE ROOF THAT YOU CAN SEE. YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW. YEAH. . SO YEAH, IT'S PRETTY VISIBLE. YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER, SO ARE ON THE, UM, THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. ARE YOU DOING ANYTHING ELSE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE NOW? OPPOSITE SIDE. UH, UH, WE KEEP BEING IN THE BACK, UH, NOBODY SEE IT. AND THEN THERE'S UH, UH, NOTHING, UH, TO BE ADDRESSED ABOUT. SO WE JUST LEAVE IT THIS, BECAUSE THAT'S THE PARKING LOT SIDE. OKAY. SO YES, THE ELEVATION THAT'S DOWN AT THE BOTTOM. YEAH. JUST PAINTED WHERE YOUR, WHERE YOUR LEFT THUMB IS AT. ELEVATION, PAINTED COLOR. KEEP EXISTING FINISH AND COLOR. RIGHT? PAINTED. I WAS GONNA SAY WHY YOU, YEAH. SO WHAT'S THE REASON FOR NOT FINISHING OR, NOW THIS IS THE SIDE THAT FACES KIND OF SAM'S THE BOTTOM, THE WHERE YOUR POINTER IS, THAT FACES SAM'S PRETTY HIDDEN, BUT THE ELEVATION THAT'S AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN IS WHERE THE PARKING LOT IS. THAT'S WHERE EVERYBODY, THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE PARK. SO THEY'LL BE SEEING THIS, RIGHT? UH, ONLY IT'S THE SITE, SITE ON THE BACK. NOBODY SEE IT. SO YOU'RE NOT CHANGING, YOU'RE THE, THE AWNINGS OVER THE WINDOWS. YOU'RE NOT PAINTING THOSE YELLOW ONLY. ONLY THE WHAT EXISTING CAN, UH, CANOPY THAT IS, UH, ABOVE THE WINDOW. THE METAL CANOPY. WE DO THAT. YES. CHANGE COLOR. THE YELLOW. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ONLY, DO WE HAVE TO BUILDING, DOING HALF THE BUILDING? JUST [02:10:01] TWO. UH, THE OTHER SIDE SIDE. THE OTHER SIDE. THE OTHER SIDE. SO WE'RE NOT, IT'S LIKE THEY, RIGHT, YOU'RE NOT, YOU NEED TO DO THIS ON THIS, THIS ONE, THESE TWO. SAME, SAME SIDE. YEAH. THIS ONE NEED TO BE THE SAME COLOR. YEAH, THAT'S FINE. MAKE MAKE MISTAKE ON THAT MISTAKE. ALL THE INGS WILL BE THE SAME. SAME. IT'S BETTER. THAT'S, THAT'S FROM, YEAH, THAT'S THE OTHER SIDE. SO IT'S SORT OF A THREE SIDED SIDE. IT IS, YEAH. THAT'S, I FEEL LIKE ON THIS ELEVATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW, YOU NEED TO DO SOME RENOVATION WORK. OH. TO CONTINUE YOUR DESIGN AND ARCHITECTURAL COLORS AND SCHEMES TO THIS ELEVATION. OKAY. BECAUSE YOU'VE AT THE TOP THE, YOU'VE GOT THE, THE MEXICAN PARAPET STILL THERE. ? YES. THIS I SHOULD SAVE MONEY FOR . SORRY. YEAH. WE CAN DO A LITTLE BIT. JUST COVER THAT. WE CAN DO THAT. I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A, A GREAT JOB WITH THE ARCHITECTURE ON THE OTHER, OTHER, OTHER SIDES. AND THIS KIND OF JUST FEELS FOREIGN AND, UH, AND THE COLORS AND THEN ALSO THOSE, UH, THOSE SOUTHWESTERN PARAPET CAPS LOOK VERY ODD. WELL, THAT'S RIGHT. WE WE CAN DO THAT. NO PROBLEM. NO PROBLEM. SO THERE'S FRONT THE VISION. WE CHANGE A LITTLE BIT. WE CAN MAKE HIGHER. OKAY. THE, THE, THE, THE DRAWINGS SHOWED THE, THE STUCCO COLOR AND THE, UH, METAL RIBBED COLOR AS THE SAME COLOR. I MEAN THEY, YOU'VE INDICATED THAT THEY'RE THE SAME COLOR, BUT THE DRAWINGS SHOW THE RIBBED METAL AS RIGHT. SLIGHTLY LIGHTER. UM, IS THAT THE, IS THE INTENTION FOR THOSE TO BE EXACTLY THE SAME? THE REFLECTION? IS IT THE LIGHTING OR SOME TEXTURE, BUT METAL DOES NOT HAVE TEXTURE, SO OH, OKAY. THE COLOR WILL BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. YEAH. I, THAT'S SORRY. THANK YOU. PALM TREE. OH MY GOD. SO HERE'S THE, THIS IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING. YEAH. I, I WAS LOOKING AROUND, THEY'VE GOT THAT SAME SORT OF MURAL AREA ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO IF WE BASICALLY TOOK THIS ELEVATION, MAKE IT THE OTHER SIDE AS WELL. TREAT IT THE SAME. MM. A HUNDRED PERCENT. JUST DO THE, JUST DO THE SAME. THE SAME THING. SO SAME THING WITH YOUR WINDOWS. AND I SEE THAT OFTEN. YEAH. JUST DO THE SAME THAT YOU'VE GOT RIGHT UP HERE. MM-HMM . THIS, THIS SORT OF LOOK RIGHT HERE. YES SIR. YES SIR. ON THAT OTHER SIDE. OKAY. UNDERSTAND. I'M COMFORTABLE IF YOU ALL WANNA LEAVE THAT ELEVATION ME? YEAH. I, OKAY. AS LONG AS THEY GET RID OF THE, THE CURVY PARAPET. ALRIGHT. UNDERSTAND. I STILL THINK WE CAN MAKE A EYEBALL . OH, WELL THAT'S ON THE FRONT. THAT'S ON THE, THAT'S ON THE MANSEL ROADSIDE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 400 GEORGIA 400 SIDE. OKAY. WHAT ABOUT THE FOURTH ELEVATION? SHOULD WE LOOK AT THAT? YEAH, THERE IS IT JUST, THAT'S THE, THE, THE FOURTH, THE SAM'S CLUB. THE SAM'S CLUB. BUT FACES SAM'S CLUB ONE, TWO. WELL, THE DUMPSTER SIDE FACES SAM'S CLUB DIRECTLY. YOU'VE GOT KIND OF THAT, THERE'S A HILL THAT GOES UP TO THE, SO YOU CAN'T SEE ANYTHING PARKING LOT THAT'S SAT SORT OF THAT FOURTH SIDE'S BEHIND THE NORTH ELEVATION. SCROLL DOWN. ONE MORE DUMPSTER DOWN. GO DOWN. YEAH, THERE IT IS. SO THAT NEEDS TO HAVE COLORS, COLOR TO MATCH AS WELL. WE NEED TO DO THAT TOO. YEAH. AND THAT, AND THAT THUMB'S CONCRETE BLOCK THERE TOO WITH THE, UH, SO THEY'LL, I'LL GIVE THEM THE, IT JUST SHOW E SOMETHING WITH THAT. EITHER SMOOTH IT OFF WITH SOME SORT OF FINISH OR SOMETHING. YEAH. MM-HMM . YEAH. AND PAINT IT LIKE A PARCH COAT OR SOMETHING. PROBABLY THE DARK COLOR. YEAH. THAT'S GOOD. LET ME, YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, THE LANDSCAPING, YOU'RE, YOU'RE COMING BACK WITH LANDSCAPING. WE'RE COMING BACK WITH THAT. OKAY. 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A PALM TREE THERE AND SOME, UH, SOME IT NEEDS SOME HELP. [02:15:01] JAPANESE MAPLE. SO . . OKAY. UM, BEFORE WE HAVE ANY MOTIONS OR ANYTHING, ASK FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THIS APPLICATION? NO. NO PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. ACTUALLY, LET ME ASK ONE MORE QUESTION. ON THE PA ON THE, UH, PATIO. IS THERE, UM, AN ENCLOSURE ON THE PA? ARE YOU PLANNING TO PUT AN ENCLOSURE ON THE PATIO? TRY TO MAKE OPEN. YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE OPEN? OKAY. YEAH, BECAUSE ONE OF THE RENDERINGS LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS A KIND CURTAIN OR SOMETHING. YEAH. GO TO YOUR, GO TO YOUR RENDERING. YEAH. ONE OF THEM LOOKED LIKE HAD A YEAH, RIGHT THERE. I SEE YOU'VE GOT, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT PLASTIC. YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT THOUGH. NOT DOING THAT. SHOWING IT OPEN. OKAY. MILK H OPEN, OPEN, OPEN. YEAH. AI HAS SOME . IT, IT, THAT'S AS A MIND OF IT. OWN ANGLE. YEAH. THE ANGLE SHOWS BETTER. THIS ANGLE. YEAH. THIS ANGLE SHOWS BETTER. THIS ONE, THEY'VE ACTUALLY OVER THE FRONT DOOR, THEY'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY INSTALLED THAT VERTICAL METAL SIDING BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT THEIR SIGN UP YEAH. TO GET THE SIDE BEHIND. YEAH. OKAY. ANY OTHER, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT THIS MORNING ON THAT? SO BRETT, YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF THE OTHER TWO ELEVATIONS. THE, YEAH, I TAKE CARE OF THE OTHER TWO ELEVATIONS AND THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE. OKAY. AS FAR AS, ALRIGHT. YEAH, I'LL LOOK AT THOSE. I'LL GET 'EM TO SEND ME RENDERINGS OF THAT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL PUT IT. OKAY. AND WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THE TWO PEERING. UM, THE, THE TWO EARS, THE TEARS, EARS, EYES, WHATEVER. THEY'RE JUST ON THAT. THE OTHER ONES ARE HIDDEN BEHIND. THAT'LL GET, YEAH, THAT'S OKAY. THAT'LL GIVE US THE REMINDER THAT IT WAS SOMETHING BEFORE. ALRIGHT, WE READY FOR A MOTION? I THINK. I THINK SO. JUST SEE WHAT YOU CAN. WELL, ALL RIGHT. GIVE A MR. CHAIRMAN REGARDING DRB 2 6 0 0 1 5 SAPPORO SUSHI AND STEAKHOUSE. UM, MOTION TO, UM, DENY THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED AND APPROVE THE FOLLOWING. UH, THE FOLLOWING CHANGES TO THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED. APPLICANT WILL FINISH THE, UH, EAST FACADE AND THE NORTH FACADE, UH, IN A SIMILAR STYLE TO THE OTHER TWO FACADES WITH FINAL APPROVAL BY STAFF. AND APPLICANT WILL, UM, ECHO THE BLOCK SURFACE ON THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE TO MATCH THE TEXTURE AND THE, UH, NEW COLOR ON THE BUILDING, UH, WITH FINAL APPROVAL BY STAFF. AND A MOTION. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. SWING, A SECOND BY MR. ROWAN. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOTION? THERE'LL BE NONE. I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. ALL OPPOSED NO OPPOSITION. MOTION PASSES. SIX ZERO. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU THIS MORNING. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN, LADY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WHEN DO, WHEN DO YOU PLAN TO OPEN? UH, UH, TWO, TWO MONTHS. HONOR. I OPEN QUICKLY. AUGUST. AUGUST? YEAH. YEAH. NEXT MONTH. I, I TELL HIM. IMPOSSIBLE . OKAY. VERY GOOD. GOOD LUCK. WELL, THANK YOU. IT'S, UH, IT'S GOOD TO SEE A EMPTY BUILDING BEING REPURPOSED AND REUSED AGAIN. SO, THANK YOU. SO HE NEED TO OPEN AUGUST, SO I DON'T KNOW . OKAY. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. [6. DRB260016     Amasa Kitchen     15 Academy St Consider signage] OUR NEXT APPLICANT IS AMSA KITCHEN. AMSA KITCHEN. YOU'RE HERE. GOOD. OKAY. ALRIGHT. MAYBE GIVE THEM JUST A MINUTE TO CLEAR OUT AND THEN YOU CAN FAA KITCHEN. I HOPE I SAID THAT RIGHT. DID I, DID I PRONOUNCE THAT CORRECTLY? AMSA, IS THAT YEP. AMSA MEXICAN KITCHEN. AMSA. HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING? WE'RE GOOD. HOW ARE YOU TODAY? DOING WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD. ALRIGHT, SO IF YOU'LL INTRODUCE YOURSELF THIS MORNING AND THEN GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR PACKET [02:20:01] TODAY, PLEASE. YEP. UH, LET ME SCREEN THIS. MY NAME IS JUAN KAJA AND I'M THE OWNER OF, UH, AMA MEXICAN KITCHEN. AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT A SIGN PACKAGE FOR Y'ALL TODAY. OKAY. I JUST WANNA START BY SAYING THAT I'M SUPER EXCITED TO OPEN THIS COMMUNITY. EVERYBODY'S BEEN INCREDIBLE, SUPER HELPFUL RIGHT HERE HAS BEEN REALLY HELPFUL THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT JUST EVERYONE'S BEEN SO WELCOMING WITH OPEN ARMS AND, UM, WE'RE JUST VERY EXCITED ABOUT BEING IN THIS COMMUNITY. WELL, WE'RE, UH, VERY EXCITED TO SEE A, A VACANT RESTAURANT BEING OPENED UP AGAIN, REOCCUPIED. SO YES. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I GOT IT. THANK YOU. YEAH. UM, THAT BUILDING IS, UH, IT'S A GREAT, GREAT LOCATION, GREAT LOCATION, GREAT SPACE, GREAT BONES. UM, WE'RE DOING A LOT TO IT TO MAKE A DIFFERENT THOUGH. SO, UM, HERE TO GET STARTED, THE FIRST IS THE SIGN THAT'S ABOVE CENTRAL CITY TAVERN THAT'S FACING THE COURTYARD. UM, AND THIS IS A HALO LIT REVERSE CHANNEL LETTER, UM, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IN HERE. SO GONNA BE, THE AMMA PORTION IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE THIS. AND THEN THE MEXICAN KITCHEN AND THE LOGO IS GOING TO BE THIS ACRYLIC AROUND IT. AND FOR THAT, WE'RE GONNA BE USING THE EXISTING LOW VOLTAGE THAT'S ALREADY ON THERE FOR, FROM THE PREVIOUS SIGN. SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH BOTH SIGNS IS WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE DESIGN INTENT FROM THE ORIGINAL SIGN THE SAME BY CHANGING OUR, SO THIS ONE WE'RE MOVING THE OLD SIGN, WE'RE PLACING THE NEW SIGN EXACTLY WHERE THE OLD ONE WAS. SO THE THE NEW SIGN IS EXACT. OKAY. I'M SORRY. GO TO, YEAH. SO, UM, YOU SEE ON HERE IS THE JECA ONE, AND THEN BACK HERE IS THEMA ONE. SO IT'S BASICALLY ON THE EXACT SAME SPACE, SAME, SAME CONFIGURATION, SAME SIZE. YEP. SAME LOCATION, JUST EXACTLY. UM, I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH INTERIOR, THEN THE EXTERIOR, WE'RE CHANGING A LOT OF THE THINGS, BUT, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE STILL FAMILIAR WITH THE SPACE AND THERE'S HISTORY BEHIND IT. SO WE'RE KIND OF TRYING TO PLAY OFF OF THAT A LITTLE BIT. UM, THIS IS HOW THAT ONE WOULD LOOK. UM, AND HERE'S THE DETAILS BEHIND IT. THE, WHICH I JUST TALKED ABOUT, THE, THE LOGO, WHICH IS THE ACRYLIC PAINTED, THE, UM, LETTERS THAT ARE, UM, THE REVERSE CHANNEL LIT LETTERS, UM, AND THEN THE BACKGROUND, THAT PURPLE THAT YOU SEE ON THERE. SO OUR, UM, OUR RESTAURANT, THE FOUNDATION OF THE RESTAURANT IS OUR HEIRLOOM BLUE OR TORTILLAS EVERY DAY. AND SO THE BACKGROUND OF THAT IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE, UH, BLUE CORN, BLUE CORN KERNELS. UM, AND THEN THE TOP, WHICH IS OUR SYMBOL, UM, THE TOP LITTLE PIECES ARE CORN KERNELS. THE MIDDLE PIECE IS, UH, KAMAL, WHICH IS, THAT'S WHERE THE, UH, TORTILLAS BACK IN THE DAY USED TO GET MADE IN A BASICALLY, UH, ROUND GRIDDLE THAT WAS OVER FIRE. AND THEN THE BOTTOM OF IT IS AN OLD SCHOOL CORN GRINDER. I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN IT. THE HAND CRANKED ONE. UM, SO BASICALLY IT TALKS THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF HOW WE MAKE THE BLUE CORN CORN TORTILLAS IN OUR LOGO. THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SERVE AS BLUE CORN TORTILLAS? YEAH. SO, UM, ALL OF OUR TORTILLAS, WE WORK WITH A FARMER AND WE GET THEM ORGANIC, NON GMO, HEIRLOOM BLUE CORN. WE WORK WITH A FARMER IN ILLINOIS THAT GROWS THIS ONE, AND WE BRING IT BY THE PALLET AND WE HAVE A GRINDER NOW, IT'S NOT A HAND CRANK, BUT IT'S, UM, AN ELECTRICAL GRINDER AND WE GRIND 'EM EVERY DAY AND WE PRESS 'EM DAILY. SO YEAH, IT'S SOMEONE'S FULL TIME JUST TO MAKE TORTILLAS. SOMEBODY GRINDING WITH A PUZZLE. , . I MEAN, YOU COULD BEHIND WORK FOR YOUR MEAL. YEAH. YEAH. I THINK WE, UM, YEAH, SO WE HAVE A TORTILLA AND THAT'S OUR FULL-TIME JOB IS TO MAKE TORTILLAS. SO IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S IT LOOK, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SIX DIFFERENT COLORS HERE THAT YOU PASSED OUT, BUT IT, I ONLY IT ONLY LOOKS LIKE THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT COLORS ON THE SIGN. THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT. SO THAT IS ALL THE COLORS OF THE, OF OUR BRAND GUIDELINES. AND THEN TWO COLORS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE USING. WELL, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PURPLES. IF YOU SEE ON HERE, THERE'S A DARKER PURPLE AND A LIGHTER PURPLE IN THE BACKGROUND OF THE SIGN. AND THEN WE HAVE THE PINK, WHICH IS THE, UM, WHERE THE LETTER IS. LEMME SEE. OKAY, I'M GONNA ASK THIS QUESTION. SO THE BOARD THAT YOU PASSED OUT HERE MM-HMM. THIS SIGN LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S ON OUR MONITOR. AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A BLACK BACKGROUND BETWEEN A MASA AND I DON'T SEE A BLACK BACKGROUND. YEAH. IT'S NOT GONNA, IT'S GONNA BE LIKE THAT. IT'S GONNA BE LIKE THAT. LIKE THIS ONE? YES. ALRIGHT, WELL LEMME PASS THIS AROUND THERE BY SEE, [02:25:01] THERE YOU GO. SO CAN YOU TELL ME OUT OF THESE, WHICH ARE THE TWO COLORS THAT YOU'RE HAVE ON THE SIGN THERE? SO WHAT, BASICALLY WHAT HE SAID, THE, ALL OF THE PURPLES ARE IN THAT BACKGROUND. REMEMBER I SAID THAT BACKGROUND IS IS A OH, OKAY. IT'S NOT A SOLID COLOR BACKGROUND. OH, OKAY. SO THEY'RE ALL IN THERE, BUT, BUT AS FAR AS THE OTHER COLOR, THERE'S ONLY, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE. YEAH. WHICH ONE OF THOSE? ALL RIGHT. SO YOU'RE NOT USING THOSE OTHER TWO, SO WE'LL TAKE THOSE. UH, NO, THESE ARE JUST FOR, UH, THEY'RE PART OF OUR BRAND GUIDELINES. I GOTCHA. OKAY. SO THAT'S, WE USE FOR ALL OF OUR DESIGNS. SO THOSE, AND LET SEE IF I CAN, SO THIS IS KIND OF A MIX OF YES. THE PURPLE. YEAH. SO THE BACKGROUND IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE, UH, A BLUE CORN. IF YOU GET A BLUE CORN, IT'S NOT JUST GONNA BE ONE PURPLE, IT'S A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT PURPLES. AND THEN IT HAS A LITTLE, LITTLE DOTS LIKE THE CORN KERNELS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. YEAH, IT LOOKS INTERESTING. UM, OKAY. SO, AND HERE JUST GOES THROUGH A CHECKLIST OF THE, UH, DOWNTIME SIGN ORDINANCES AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE, UH, CHECK ALL THOSE BOXES. UM, AND THEN THE SECOND SIGN IS THE LARGER SIGN THAT'S ON ACADEMY STREET. AND THAT SIGN, I THOUGHT THAT WAS, IT'S ALREADY A GREAT SIGN. YOU KNOW, LIKE THE, THE STRUCTURE IS REALLY GOOD, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO CHANGE IT, UM, ALMOST 13 FEET LONG. UM, SO WE WORK WITH RIGHT OVER HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMMUNICATING OUR BRAND. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WHERE THE JE HOLE WAS AT THE TOP, REMOVING THAT AND WE'RE MAKING OUR, UM, OUR SYMBOL THERE. AND THEN, UM, THE LETTERS THEMSELVES, HERE'S MORE DETAIL ON THAT. THE LETTERS THEMSELVES ARE GONNA BE, UM, CUSTOM ROUTED ALUMINUM. SO THE ENTIRE FACE OF WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS IS GONNA BE REMOVED. AND, UM, THEN AT THE BOTTOM WHERE, UM, THEY USED STILL HAVE THIS LIKE 44 AND THAT'S WHERE LIKE THE, THE BOTTOM OF IT THAT LOOKED LIKE A BEARD, UM, BEER TAP WHERE WE'RE MOVING THAT AND WE'RE ADDING MEXICAN KITCHEN THERE. AND THEN OUR PLAN IS TO LIGHT THE ENTIRE SIGN FROM BOTH SIDES WITH, UM, WITH, UM, GOOSE GOOSENECK LIGHTS. WHERE WOULD THOSE LIGHTS BE LOCATED? ON THE FACE OF THE BUILDING. YEP. AND THEY'LL THEY'LL BE KIND OF ANGLED OUT EXACTLY, YEAH. ON BOTH SIDES ANGLE AND IT, UM, LIGHTEN IT DOWN. UM, YEP. SO THAT'S IT. DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, SO THE COLOR, THE, YOU HAVE A PURPLE AND A PINK THAT'S THE SAME PURPLE, MIXED PURPLE AND PINK WE'VE SEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE. YES. RIGHT. AND THEN MEXICAN KITCHEN LOOKS LIKE A, A ANOTHER COLOR. UM, YEAH. SO IF YOU LOOK HERE, THESE ARE, THESE ARE ENTIRE BRAND GUIDELINES AND THE BRICK RED IS GONNA BE WHAT'S BEHIND THE MEXICAN KITCHEN PORTION. THE BRICK RED. OKAY. A COOL THING GOING ON HERE IS THAT THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND FEATURES LIKE THE STONE AND THE BRICK AND THE, AND THE WOOD LENTIL, IT, IT IS ALL SET UP READY FOR YOUR CHARACTER OF RESTAURANT. YEAH. SO YOU'RE STILL USING FOR THE, FOR THE BLADE SIGN ON THE BUILDING, YOU'RE STILL USING THE SAME STRUCTURAL MEMBERS. EXACTLY. YEAH. BECAUSE THIS LOOKS LIKE, I'M LOOKING AT THE TWO RENDERINGS NOW. IT LOOKS LIKE THE HORIZONTAL STRUCTURAL MEMBERS ARE IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ON YOUR NEW SIGN THAN THEY ARE ON THE EXISTING SIGN. UM, YEAH, THAT WAS PROBABLY THE SIGN MANUFACTURER WAS DOING IT ON. UM, OKAY. JUST FOR DESIGN PURPOSES. BUT WE ARE GONNA BE USING THE SAME STRUCTURE. SO HE IS GONNA BE MOUNTED TO THE BUILDING THE EXACT SAME WAY AND EVERYTHING. HE'S REMOVING IT AND HE'S USING THE FRAME AND HE'S GONNA HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, CHANGE IT AROUND A LITTLE BIT, UH, TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THIS IS IS THERE ANYTHING ON THE EDGE OF THE SIGN? 'CAUSE TODAY IT HAS JEKYLL ON THE EDGE OF THE SIGN. YEAH. SO ON THE EDGE OF THE SIGN WE'RE GONNA COVER IT UP AND IT'S JUST GONNA HAVE THE PURPLE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND. JUST THE PURPLE GOING. YEAH. OKAY. ABOUT HOW, HOW WIDE IS THAT? HOW WIDE IS THAT EDGE? IT WAS ACTUALLY PRETTY, IT'S ACTUALLY FAIRLY WIDE. YEAH. SEEMS LIKE IT HAS. OKAY. OKAY. UM, AND THEN YOU SAID YOU'RE, YOU ARE, YOU'RE MOUNTING SOME GOOSENECK FIXTURES TO LIGHT THE SIGN UP YES. ON BOTH SIDES. AND ARE THEY, [02:30:02] HOW MANY, HOW MANY FIXTURES ARE YOU USING? TWO. SO ONE ON EACH SIDE? THAT'S RIGHT. AND OKAY. AND THEY'LL BE, I GUESS THEY'LL BE POINTING DOWN. YEAH. OKAY. SO YOU'LL HAVE ONE. YOU, SO THEY'LL BOTH BE PRETTY HIGH UP ON THE, ON THE FENCE. OH YEAH. BUILDING TO DO THAT. I, I'D ALMOST RECOMMEND THAT YOU GET SPOTS AND LIKE, NONDESCRIPT. WHAT WERE YOU GONNA SAY? WELL, I, I TOLD JUAN NOT TO, NOT TO GO HERE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE TO, BUT WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THE SIGN A LITTLE BIT. NOW THINKING ABOUT IT, WHEN, WHEN I NOTICED THAT THE SIGN GUY SAID HE WAS GONNA USE TWO SNACKS TO LIGHT IT, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE BEST THING. I THINK THAT'S GONNA WORK. WHAT I THINK WE'LL END UP WITH IS A MA IS GONNA BE A, WILL BE A PUSH THROUGH EDGE LIT. SO WE'LL PUT A, WE'LL PUT A, UM, OPAQUE VINYL ON THE FRONT OF LETTERS SO IT'LL SORT OF, KIND OF GIVE IT A HALO KIND OF FEEL. BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE THAT THIS SORT OF THREE INCH THICK LETTER SITTING UP THERE, IT'LL PROBABLY STICK OUT ABOUT AN INCH FROM THAT FACE, YOU MIGHT SAY, FROM THE PURPLE CORN FROM THE BLUE CORN, I GUESS. MM-HMM . AND THEN, SO IT'LL LOOK LIKE A HALO, BUT SO IT'S NOT GONNA SHINE THROUGH THE FRONT. IT'S CALLED EDGE LIGHT. EDGE EDGE. IT'S REALLY NICE LOOK EDGE LIGHT. IS IT LIKE A REVERSE HALO ALMOST? NO, IT'S EDGE LIT JUST ON THE BACK BECAUSE THE LIGHT'S COMING FROM THE BACKGROUND ALMOST ABOUT, WHERE'S THAT ACRYLIC LETTER RIGHT HERE? SO YOU CAN SORT OF SEE LIGHT THROUGH THIS ACRYLIC LETTER. WHEN YOU PUT AN OPAQUE FACE ON IT, YOU'RE GONNA SEE LIGHT THROUGH THESE EDGES. OKAY. REALLY ELEGANT. LOOK. UM, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY, BECAUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE EASIER TOO BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY, THERE'S ALREADY A LIGHTING MECHANISM INSIDE OF IT. THERE'S NOT A REALLY GOOD WAY TO EXTERNALLY LIKE, I WOULDN'T THINK SO. I DON'T FEEL LIKE, AND GET AN EVEN, IT'LL LOOK GOOFY TO HAVE, UH, LIKE GOOSENECKS, YOU KNOW, AND IT'LL, YOU'D ALMOST HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF SHADOW SORT OF LIKE A GOSH, AN LED STRIP THAT WAS AS LONG AS THE THING THAT HAD SOME SHIELDS OR SOMETHING TO, BECAUSE YOU WANT THE WHOLE NEED, THE WHOLE THING EVENLY FLUSHED AND THAT'S JUST HOW GET THERE. SO ARE YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO EDGE LIGHT MEXICAN KITCHEN ALSO THE SAME WAY? UM, PROBABLY NOT. PROBABLY NOT. OKAY. MAYBE. WE'LL, WE'LL I'LL SEE HOW, HOW SMALL THEY CAN, HOW SMALL THEY CAN DO. BUT, BUT THERE'S STILL POTENTIAL FOR THAT. I JUST DUNNO WHAT MEXICAN KITCHEN, HOW, HOW TALL THOSE LETTERS ACTUALLY ARE. I THINK IF I REMEMBER RIGHT WHEN I WAS TALKING WITH ANOTHER SIGN VENDOR, YOU HAD TO HAVE LIKE THREE AND A HALF INCHES. I THINK TALL WAS ABOUT THE SMALLEST. YOU COULD DO THAT SORT OF LOOK IN. IT'S, IN THEORY IT'S STILL LIKE A, UH, CABINET SIGN FOR THE LIGHTS ALL INTERNAL, BUT IT'S ONLY PUSHING OUT THIS AREA AND THEN WE BLOCK IT SO THAT IT ONLY DOES THE EDGES. YEAH. AND YOU, FOR, FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT'S GONNA LOOK EXCITING TO, TO HAVE THE WHOLE THING INTEGRATED TOGETHER. YES. I THINK I WOULD GIVE IT A, A BETTER PRESENCE. SO, SO BRETT, WHAT DO YOU SEE, WHICH PART OF THE SIGN OR SIGNS SIGN IS EDGE LIT? THE LETTERS. ONLY THE LETTERS JUST, JUST A ME, A MESA, MASA, MASA, HOPEFULLY MEXICAN KITCHEN. THOSE ARE THE EDGE LIT. AND THEN WHAT ABOUT THE, THE THE BLUE CORN KERNELS? AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COULD ILLUMINATE THAT. OKAY. THE ONLY THING IF, IF YOU WANTED THAT IS POTENTIALLY HE COULD MOUNT LIKE AN LED STRIP IN THE TOP OF THAT CAN RIGHT THE OLD TAP HANDLE AND JUST LET IT SORT OF FLUSH UP. YOU WOULDN'T, YOU WOULDN'T SEE IT, BUT IT MIGHT ILLUMINATE IT. SO THERE'S POTENTIAL OF THAT. I CAN TALK TO HIM ABOUT THAT. I I DO THINK THAT YOU'LL SORT OF MISS THAT AT NIGHT. SO I THINK WE NEED TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT. YEAH, I THINK THAT I, I'D LIKE TO SHARE A COMMENT THAT'S MAYBE TOO SUBJECTIVE, BUT I WANT TO THROW IT OUT THERE. UM, I FEEL LIKE THE MARK THAT YOU HAVE IS, IS, IS A GREAT MARK FOR YOUR BRAND AND ALL, BUT ON THIS LATE SIDE, I FEEL LIKE IT'S KIND OF OVERWHELMING AND MAYBE TOO WHIMSICAL FOR DOWNTOWN COMPARED TO ALL THE OTHER STUFF. IT'S JUST PERSONAL OPINION. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF PLAYFUL OR WHIMSICAL IS THE RIGHT WORD, BUT IT'S, IT'S REALLY KIND OF IN YOUR FACE. AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAD EVER THOUGHT, SINCE YOU'RE ALREADY CARRYING THROUGH ON THE, UH, CENTRAL CITY SIDE, [02:35:01] THAT SAME, UH, ORIGINAL BORDER FROM, UH, THE JEKYLL ISLAND SIGN, IF YOU HAD CONSIDERED PUTTING YOUR MARK INSIDE OF THAT, UM, ALMOST LIKE OVAL SHAPE, NOT OVAL, THAT SAME BORDERED SIGN, AND THEN MAYBE HAVE THAT AS A PUSH THROUGH ALSO INSTEAD OF THIS KIND OF GIANT FLORAL THING. JUST A THOUGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE HAD THAT FEELING. I, I THINK THAT WAS HIS ORIGINAL SUBMISSION AND HE WAS ENCOURAGED TO GO THIS DIRECTION. OH, WAS HE? OKAY. . IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST LOUD AND PROUD ONLY BECAUSE THAT, THAT TOP, I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S BIG ENOUGH TO, TO GET ALL OF WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE OTHER SIGN IN THAT LITTLE PIECE. THAT WAS MY, THAT WAS MY SUBMISSION. WELL, THE ORIGINAL SUBMISSION HAD AMASA IN THAT PIECE AS WELL. WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS, BUT IT WAS ONLY, IT WAS ONLY FINAL. AND WHEN I TOLD HIM THAT WE COULDN'T DO JUST VINYL AND YOU GOT DIMENSIONAL VALUE. YEP. NOW, NOW YOU NEED MORE SPACE TO BE ABLE TO DO THOSE DIMENSIONAL LETTER. OH YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. AND I DON'T THINK HE FELT LIKE IT WAS ENOUGH, BUT I CAN TALK TO WHAT, WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS LOGO PROVE THIS EXACTLY LIKE IT IS, AND THIS IS JUST AN IDEA. I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S A CONDITION OR ANYTHING, BUT TAKE THE TOP PIECE AS IT'S, AS IT IS TODAY, PUT YOUR LOGO INSIDE THAT BORDER AND DO, UH, THE, UH, THE MAKE IT LIT. YOU KNOW, LIKE HAVE IT NOT REVERSED. I DON'T KNOW, UH, THE ACRYLIC, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THAT BORDER. KIND OF LIKE YOU'RE USING THAT BOARD ON THE OTHER SIDE. I JUST FEEL LIKE THE, UH, THE CORNSTALK, WHAT, WHAT IS THE MARK ACTUALLY REPRESENTING AGAIN? UM, IT'S A WHOLE PROCESS OF THE CORN TO KERNELS. I'LL JUST CALL IT YOUR MARK. YEAH. UM, I JUST FEEL LIKE IN THE LANDSCAPE OF ALL OF OUR DOWNTOWN SIGNAGE, IT'S, IT'S, I DON'T KNOW, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S A LITTLE BIT OVERWHELMING, BUT THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT ANYWAY. WELL, I MEAN FOR US, FOR THE SEMI MANUFACTURER, I'M SURE IT'D ACTUALLY BE EASIER TO KEEP, KEEP THE TOP JE THING AND THEN JUST PUT THE LOGO IN IT THE WAY THAT YOU'RE SAYING YEAH. AS THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, LIKE FRAMING THE LOGO INSIDE THAT TOP SQUARE. BUT I, I FEEL LIKE MAYBE YOU WANT TO GET, GET AWAY FROM THE BEER, THE DEER TAP PAN. SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. RIGHT. IT LOOKS LIKE A DEER TAP. WELL IT DOES NOW THE JEKYLL IT DOES, RIGHT? YEAH. SO THIS, THIS IS A DEVIATION. SO YOU'RE GETTING AWAY FROM THAT AND GETTING AWAY FROM THE JEKYLL KIND OF IMAGE. THE LEFTOVER JEKYLL . MM-HMM . RIGHT. AND THAT WAS, I THINK THAT WAS THE IDEA BEHIND IT, THAT WE DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK THAT'S A BEER TAP. IT KIND OF GIVES US SOME CRE IT GIVES US SOME CREATIVENESS AND SOME, I I MEAN MAYBE, MAYBE IT GOES OVERBOARD HERE. YEAH. I FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST A LITTLE TOO CARTOON WHIMSICAL. UH, BUT ANYWAY. OKAY. LIKE A LITTLEY . OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, THIS? NO. ALRIGHT. WELL, DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO, WE'VE GOT THE, UH, SO WE'VE GOT THE, THE LARGE BLADE SIGN HERE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON OUR MONITORS, AND THEN WE HAVE THE, UH, THE BUILDING MOUNTED SIGN, UH, KIND OF OVER CENTRAL CITY TAVERN THAT ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING. SOMEBODY WANNA CRAFT A MOTION, PLEASE. I GUESS WE'RE KIND OF, YOU, YOU SAID BASICALLY WE JUST LEAVE THE METHOD OF LIGHTING THE SIGN TO STAFF, WHICH MIGHT INCLUDE EDGE LIGHTING OR SOME OTHER TECHNIQUES, RIGHT? THAT, THAT, THAT'S MY OPINION. I MEAN, YOU GUYS HAVE TO, TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH IT, BUT I'M, I'M FINE WITH THAT. I, IT'LL BE A BETTER LOOK WITH AN EDGE LIT. I AGREE. GOOSENECK NO, I, I ABSOLUTELY, I DON'T SEE GOOSENECKS. I, I THINK BEING SO HIGH THEY'LL LOOK OUT OF PLACE. IT'S ALMOST LIKE IT'S JUST ANOTHER OBJECT. DO WE WANNA MINIMIZE THE OBJECTS ON THE WALL? YES, I AGREE. I AGREE. AND THEY WON'T GIVE US A CONTINUOUS LIGHTING LOOK, JUST KIND OF A GENERAL LIGHTING AREA OF THAT PLACE ON. SO I DON'T, IT MAY EVEN BE DISTRACTING IF WE PUT FEW SNACKS UP THERE. I WAS GONNA SAY PERSONALLY ON THE TOP, I, I COULD GO EITHER WAY, YOU KNOW, ON WHAT THEY PRESENTED OR WHAT MR. ROWAN WAS SUGGESTING. SO I'M JUST GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, OKAY. WE'LL SEE WHERE IT GOES. UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, REGARDING DRB 2 6 0 0 1 6, THE MASA KITCHEN MOTION TO APPROVE THE SIGN BUILDING SIGNS AS SUBMITTED, UH, WITH FINAL APPROVAL BY STAFF [02:40:01] ON THE METHOD OF LIGHTING THE SIGN, UH, WHICH MAY INCLUDE EDGE LIT LETTERS AS DISCUSSED TODAY. AND A MOTION. SECOND. OKAY. MOTION BY MR. SWING. SECOND BY MS. SPRAYBERRY. ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR? ALRIGHT. THERE BEING NONE. I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. ALL OPPOSED? ONE OPPOSED. SO MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ONE. I'M SORRY. WHO SECONDED THE MOTION? JENNIFER DID. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT. YES. WHEN DO YOU OPEN ? YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, HOW SOON ARE YOU LOOKING TO OPEN? NEXT MONTH. NEXT MONTH. VERY EXCITED. IT'S GONNA BE GREAT. WE'RE VERY EXCITED. YEAH. VERY GOOD. OKAY, FOLKS. UM, OUR NEXT MEETING IS PLANNED FOR FRIDAY, AUGUST 21ST, AND THERE'LL BE NO FURTHER BUSINESS. AND WITH ALL OBJECTIONS FROM FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, THIS MEETING'S HEREBY ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.