Jul 20, 2026 City Council

HOPEFULLY THEY'LL ADDRESS THAT.

WELL, I'VE, I'VE ASKED IT PUBLICLY.

I'M SURE IT'LL BE ADDRESSED WHEN THEY COME UP.

THE NEXT QUESTION IS, UM, I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THE MORNING TRAFFIC IS ON, UH, ROCK MILL HEADING TOWARD, UH, HAYNES BRIDGE ROAD.

AND, UH, IT, IT CAN BE SOMEWHAT HEAVY IN THE MORNING.

DO, DO WE HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR HAS IT BEEN STUDIED ABOUT CARS TRYING TO TURN LEFT INTO THE FACILITY WHEN MAYBE THE LANES ARE BLOCKED OR IT'S STACKED? UH, VICE VERSA, WHEN A CAR'S TRYING TO LEAVE THE FACILITY AND IF THEY CAN'T MAKE A RIGHT TURN TO GET ONTO ROCK MILL, HAS ANY OF THAT BEEN LOOKED AT AND ADDRESSED? ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? SO THE, THE APPLICANT'S, UH, REQUEST DID TRIGGER A FULL TRAFFIC STUDY AS PART OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING, AND THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.

SO THERE WAS A TRIP GENERATION REPORT THAT WAS PROVIDED, AND IT DID SHOW AM AND P PM PEAK, UM, OUR, UH, TRIPS THAT EXCEEDED MORE THAN A HUNDRED, UH, TRIPS, WHICH TRIGGERED THE NEED FOR THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

THAT TRAFFIC STUDY WAS REVIEWED BY OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

AS YOU KNOW, UH, WE NO LONGER HAVE THAT POSITION FILLED AND HE'S NOT HERE TO ADDRESS THAT QUESTION.

BUT WITH THAT SAID, THE APPLICANT, UM, IN HIS PROFESSIONAL, UH, ENGINEER IS HERE TODAY AND MAY BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT.

I KNOW THAT GEORGE DID NOT BRING UP ANY CONCERNS THAT REQUIRED CONDITIONS TO BE ADDED.

WE DO HAVE A CONDITION THAT WOULD REQUIRE THAT THE APPLICANT IMPLEMENT ANY REQUIRED, UH, ROAD IMPROVEMENTS RESULTING FROM THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

SO THE, THE BASIS OF MY QUESTION, AND YOU HAD STARTED TO ADDRESS IT EARLIER, I SEE TRAFFIC COUNT NUMBERS IN THERE, BUT WHAT DO THOSE TRAFFIC COUNT NUMBERS MEAN GIVEN THE CURB CUT AND ITS PROXIMITY AND DISTANCE FROM HAYS BRIDGE ROAD WITH WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT, UH, SPECIFICALLY AM TRAFFIC ON, ON ROCK MILL? UH, I I, I TEND TO THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF MORNING USERS OF, OF FITNESS FACILITIES ON THEIR WAY TO WORK.

SO IF, IF THE CURB CUT IS TOO CLOSE AND PEOPLE CAN'T TURN IN LEFT OR RIGHT, WHETHER IT'S A HUNDRED PEAK AM PEAK OR IF IT'S 20, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE LOOKED AT AND WE'RE COMFORTABLE THAT WE CAN GET THE TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE WHEN THIS FACILITY HAS THAT CURB CUT IN THAT LOCATION WITH AN EXPECTED NUMBER OF USERS.

AND I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEER TO, TO ADDRESS THAT, THAT QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

ONCE AGAIN, I'VE ASKED IT PUBLICLY.

COUNCILMAN BRADY.

THANK YOU MR. WOOD.

I I JUST KIND HAD ONE QUESTION.

IT WAS, IS, IS TRAFFIC KIND OF RELATED AND, UH, FROM A, I'VE SEEN THIS IN CRAB APPLE KIND OF SAYING LOT OF PEOPLE GET THERE AT 6:00 AM KIND OF LEAVE AND GO TO TO WORK DIRECTLY FROM THE SITE.

SO SOMEWHAT GETS PEOPLE INTO THAT ENVELOPE A LITTLE EARLIER, BUT I'VE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS WHICH WE'RE KIND OF EXCITED TO SEE THIS TYPE OF USE HERE IS REALLY LEFT HAND TURN FROM EASTBOUND HAYNES BRIDGE.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE THAT, BUT ON RECORD, CAN YOU KIND OF COMMENT WHETHER THERE EVER BE A LEFT HAND TURN THERE ON HAYNES BRIDGE OR YOU, YOU GO ALL THE WAY DOWN BY BEST BUY AND COME BACK AROUND FROM EASTBOUND TRAFFIC.

MY UNDERSTANDING FROM SPEAKING TO GEORGE IS THAT THAT LEFT TURN FROM HAYNES BRIDGE INTO ROCK MILL WOULD NOT HAPPEN.

IT'S TOO CLOSE TO 400.

SOME CONDITION LIKE THAT, IT WOULD NEVER BE USED.

BUT THE QUESTION KEPT COMING UP, I APPRECIATE YOU ADDRESSING THAT CAME UP WITH THE PICKLE AND SOCIAL REQUESTS AS WELL, AND IT WAS ALWAYS THE, IT WOULD NOT HAPPEN.

THAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.

I'VE JUST GOT ONE, UH, QUESTION, AND IT MAY BE TO THE, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY, BUT I KNOW THERE'S A, AND I DON'T SEE IT ON THIS SITE PLAN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM MR. WOODMAN? COUNCILMAN?

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THERE'S A GRAVEYARD THAT THERE IS, THERE IS A CEMETERY ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE EAST.

THIS IS THE FULTON, EXCUSE ME, THE FULTON COUNTY, UH, SCHOOLS MAINTENANCE FACILITY.

AND I BELIEVE OUT IN FRONT OF THEIR FACILITY, THERE IS A, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO CEMETERY THERE.

OKAY, SO IT'S NOT ON THIS PIECE.

IT IS NOT ON THIS PROPERTY.

JUST OUTSTRIPPED THE DEMAND, PARTICULARLY IN THIS SPECIFIC AREA.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. WOODMAN? THANKS YOU, SIR.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME? MAYOR CITY COUNCIL, UH, MY NAME IS NEIL FREEMAN.

I RESIDE AT 9 5 9 MIDDLE FORT TRAIL, 20 GEORGIA 3 0 0 2 4.

UH, I'M JOINED BY BARRY DUNLOP, UH, PARADIGM ENGINEER.

HE'S A PROJECT ENGINEER FOR THIS PROPERTY.

UM, I'M, UH, THE MANAGING MEMBER OF PICKLE AND SOCIAL ALPHARETTA, LLC, WHICH IS THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY.

UM, WE ACCEPT THE CONDITIONS, SAYS SET FORTH BY THE CITY STAFF AND AFFIRM BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

UH, DO WANT TO COMMEND AGAIN, AS ALWAYS, THE GREAT JOB THAT YOUR STAFF HAVE DONE PROJECTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND YOUR STAFF IS AS THOROUGH AND PROFESSIONAL AS, AS THERE IS AN ENTRY.

UM, UH, JUST TO ADDRESS THE, THE THREE, UH, VARIANCES, AND THEN I'LL COME BACK TO THE TRAFFIC.

UM, ON THE FIRST, UH, VARIANCE, UM, AGAIN, I JUST KIND OF REITERATE A LITTLE BIT WHAT WOODMAN TALKED ABOUT.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS HAVING THAT ONE LANE OF PARKING SEPARATION, IT GIVES THE FIRE CIRCULATION FOR A BUILDING OF THIS SIZE.

THAT WAS ANOTHER REASON FOR THAT.

THE SECOND ONE, AS YOU LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY, THE REASON WE HAD TO, IT, IT, THE WAY WE HAD THE, THE SITE ORIENTATION REQUIRED US TO HAVE A, AN, AN INCREASED, UM, DISTANCE FROM HAYNES BRIDGE.

JUST THE ONLY WAY IT COULD, COULD LAY IN THERE.

UM, AND THEN THE LAST ONE ON THIS IMPERVIOUS AIR SURFACE PARKING STALLS TO EXCEED THE IMPERVIOUS AREA OF THE BUILDING.

IF YOU INCLUDE THE OUTDOOR AMENITY, WHICH IS IMPERVIOUS, YOU IF INCLUDE THAT, THEN WE'RE OKAY.

WE WOULD BE OKAY.

WOULDN'T NEED THE VARIANCE, BUT, SO INSTEAD OF GETTING INTO WHATEVER, WE JUST APPLY FOR THE VARIANCE.

SO WE'RE FINE WITH APPLYING FOR THE, THE P JUDGE EXPLAINING HOW WE'RE THAT ONE.

UM, WE DID, UH, DO A, UH, INITIAL ATION AND THAT IT CAUSED US TO DO A FULL BORE, UH, TRAFFIC STUDY, WHICH WE DID.

WE USED, I'M, I'M GONNA MESS UP HIS NAME, MARK I, POR POR, UH, WHO'S, WHO'S DONE QUITE A BIT IN LOCALLY AND DONE SOME STUFF FOR WRESTLING, ALWAYS MESS UP HIS NAME AND I APOLOGIZE, MARK.

UM, BUT THE RESULTS OF THAT STUDY, MR. HES WAS THAT INDEED THERE WAS A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL, UH, IMPROVEMENT TO THE ROCK MILL.

IN ADDITION, ADDING A, IF I'M REMEMBER RIGHT, IT WAS A WEST WESTBOUND ON ROCK MILL ADDING AN EXTRA LANE TO HELP, UH, FREE UP SOME OF THAT STACKING, UM, THERE.

SO THAT WAS THE ONE THING, THE OTHER THING THAT THEY THREW OUT.

BUT THEN, UH, IT WAS LIKE IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CONSIDER, BUT THEN MR. DOLE SAID THAT THE CITY LOOKED AT IT AND THEY CERTAINLY DON'T WANT A PART OF IT, BUT THAT WAS ADDING ANOTHER LANE, ANOTHER TURN, ANOTHER, I GUESS YOU COULD CALL IT A TURN LANE ONTO GEORGIA, 400 NORTH ON HAYNES BRIDGE.

BUT THE SEGMENT WAS SO SMALL AND MY MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WOULD EXASPERATE AND THAT WAS, SO IT'S NOT, SO IT WAS ONE OF THOSE, IT WAS JUST THROWN OUT THERE AS SOMETHING TO STUDY AND DISCUSS.

UM, THE QUESTION ON THE NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS, I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER.

UM, AND SO I, I DON'T KNOW THE AMOUNT, NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS OTHER THAN, UM, I, I, I, I WISH I HAD IT, BUT I DON'T.

SO, UM, THEY, THEY WANT TO BE AS BUSY AS THEY ARE AND, AND IN THE OTHER FOUR OR FIVE LOCATIONS.

AND, BUT I, I DON'T HAVE THAT, THAT NUMBER AND I SHOULD HAVE THAT, BUT I DON'T, UM, THE, THERE'S NO, THE LEFT HAND TURN.

THERE'S THIS THAT NOT A, CERTAINLY WE DIDN'T LOOK AT, WE DIDN'T EXPLORE THAT ORIGINALLY, AND CERTAINLY NOT NOW AS WELL.

UM, I THINK THAT WAS THE, I'LL JUST LEAVE THE REST FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

DO WE HAVE ANY OH, YEAH.

WELL, MAYBE JUST THE REASON FOR THE PIVOT, UH, OF COURSE WE'RE GONNA DO A PICKLE ON SOCIAL AND THEN JUST THE, THE MARKET, JUST THE PER THE PROLIFERATION OF, OF THE SUPPLY OF PICKLEBALL COURTS

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UM, AND AGAIN, I'M EXCITED FOR THE COOLER, BUT WHEN THAT DID, IT JUST KI KIND OF UPSET THE MARKET AND IT JUST THOUGHT THE BEST, THE BEST, UH, THING FOR US WAS TO PIVOT AND GO TO A DIFFERENT USE.

AND THAT'S WHY, AGAIN, WE THOUGHT GIVEN WITH ALL THE ACTIVITY IN THE AREA, THAT THAT, THAT, THAT, UH, A HEALTH CLUB WOULD BE A NICE FIT.

THIS IS CLOSEST, CLOSEST TO THE PICKLES, AND IT ACTUALLY STILL HAS FOUR COURTS.

SO IT WAS ABOUT AS CLOSE AS WE COULD COME TO A SIMILAR PIVOT.

SO THE REST, I'LL LEAVE FOR QUESTIONS.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COUNCILMAN HEES? UH, THANK YOU MR. FREEMAN.

UH, ON THE ISSUE OF STACKING, WHICH IS REALLY WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THE PROXIMITY OF THE CURB CUT, DOES, DOES YOUR TRAFFIC STUDY INDICATE FOR TRAFFIC TURNING OFF OF HAYES BRIDGE ONTO ROCK MILL, HOW MANY CARS COULD GET IN THERE? AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IF IT'S A CONCERN OR NOT, BUT I'D LIKE TO ASK THESE BEFORE WE BUILD SOMETHING.

YEAH, YEAH.

NO, NO.

IT'S SO TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

IF, IF YOU'RE STOPPED FROM TURNING LEFT INTO THE FACILITY BECAUSE OF MORNING TRAFFIC GETTING TO HAYNES BRIDGE, HOW MANY CARS COULD STACK UP ON ROCK MILL BEFORE SOMEBODY GETS SOME RELIEF TO CUT THROUGH TO GET IN THERE? DO YOU KNOW, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M ASKING ABOUT HERE? YEAH, YEAH, I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW.

I'M WITH PARADIGM ENGINEERING.

AND ONE, WHAT INTERESTING, 'CAUSE WE DID LOOK AT, FROM A GEO SITE GEOMETRY OF MOVING THAT CURB CUT CLOSER AND THAT, THAT CERTAINLY CAUSED AN ISSUE THERE.

SO THEN THIS WAS MOST CENTRALIZED LOCATION, IT'S WHERE THE CURB CUT IS NOW, AND IT, AND IT FITS VERY NICELY BETWEEN HAYNES BRIDGE AND THE, UH, AND THE, AND THE FULTON COUNTY MAINTENANCE BUILDING.

BUT THE STACKING, DO YOU KNOW THE, SO YEAH, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A MICROPHONE, YEAH, YEAH.

SO LET'S JUST, THIS, JUST SO STACKING COULD HAPPEN INBOUND, AND IT CAN HAPPEN OUTBOUND.

UNDERSTOOD.

IF IT STACKS INTO YOUR PARKING LOT, Y'ALL GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE THAT PART OUT.

'CAUSE IF PEOPLE CAN'T GET OUT TO THE RIGHT TURN, BUT FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO GET IN TO MAKE A LEFT TURN, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TWO CARS, SEVEN CARS, 18 CARS, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I DON'T WANT CARS BACKED UP ONTO HAYNES BRIDGE IF THERE ISN'T ENOUGH ROOM.

UM, MY NAME IS BARRY DUNLOP.

UM, MY OFFICE IS AT 9 0 3 BOMBAY LANE, ROSWELL, GEORGIA, 3 0 0 7 6.

AND, UM, ON THE SITE PLAN, THE STRIPING THAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE IS, UM, UH, SOME OF THE EXISTING STRIPING THAT'S OUT THERE.

AND MY INTENT DURING THE LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT PROCESS IS TO WORK WITH GEORGE DOYLE, THE, THE ALPHARETTA TRANSPORTATION, UH, REVIEWER AND ENGINEER.

AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS SOME BRIEFLY, BUT WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT PULLING, UH, THIS, UM, HAZARD STRIPING BACK TOWARDS HAYNES BRIDGE SO THAT WE CAN INCREASE THE STACKING AMOUNT OF STACKING CARS ALONG THIS, UH, THIS LEFT TURN LANE BEFORE THE ACTUAL TURN INTO THE SITE.

AND I, I DID SOME QUICK LOOKING AT THIS, AND I GET ABOUT 10 TO 11 CARS TO STACK IN THIS AREA.

IF WE PULL THAT, UH, THAT TAPER BACK TOWARDS, UM, BACK TOWARDS HAYNES BRIDGE, UM, I, I, WE FEEL AS IF THAT'S, UH, QUITE AN ADEQUATE NUMBER FOR, UH, THE, THE TRIPS THAT WE ARE GONNA SEE ON A, ON A, UM, ON A, ON A, ON THE MORNING PEAKS AND THE PM PEAKS.

SO WE FEEL PRETTY COMFORTABLE ABOUT THAT.

UM, IF, IF GEORGE FEELS LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE NEEDED, IF WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT MIGHT STACK UP ON ROCK MILL HEADING TOWARDS HAYNES BRIDGE, WE CAN ALWAYS TALK ABOUT, UM, PUTTING IN ONE OF THOSE BOXES, UH, RIGHT THERE AT THE DRIVEWAY THAT SAYS, DON'T BLOCK THE BOX JUST SO THAT PEOPLE COULD TURN IN AND OUT OF THAT DRIVEWAY WITHOUT BEING HINDERED BY PEOPLE WAITING TO GET TO HANS BRIDGE.

SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE'LL, GEORGE AND I'LL END UP DISCUSSING DURING THE LDP PROCESS.

SO, UH, AND YOU HAVE DIRECTLY ADDRESSED MY QUESTION, WHAT, WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS THAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT IT, PEOPLE ARE PLANNING FOR IT.

AND, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO MOVE THAT CENTER DEDICATED LEFT TURN LANE BACK FOR A FEW VEHICLES YES.

AND IT DOESN'T COMPROMISE TRAFFIC, UH, IN ANY OTHER SENSE THAT, THAT WE WORK TOGETHER JUST TO MAKE SURE TRAFFIC KEEPS FLOWING AND, AND NOBODY'S BACKED UP ONTO HAYNES BRIDGE A A ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. WARREN HUSKY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

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WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS.

HOWEVER ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM.

NOW'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY.

DON'T SEE ANYONE COME FORWARD IN FAVOR.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN OPPOSITION? I DO NOT SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY NEED FOR A REBUTTAL AT THIS POINT SINCE THERE WAS NO OPPOSITION.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNSEL.

YES, SIR.

MR. MAYOR, I WOULD.

A MOTION THIS EVENING TO APPROVE MP DASH TWO SIX DASH ZERO NINE SLASH CU DASH 26 DASH ZERO EIGHT SLASH V DASH 26 DASH 13 ONE, LIFE FITNESS DELTA CREDIT UNION MP IS PRESENTED THIS EVENING.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TIMM MARKLE, A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BRADY, MAYOR PRO TIM.

YES, I WANNA THANK YOU GUYS FOR WORKING ON THIS.

WE'VE SEEN EVERYTHING FROM RESIDENTIAL TO MULTIFAMILY TO NURSERIES, UH, PICKLE AND SOCIAL.

I WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHERE, WHERE THAT WOUND UP.

AND WE KIND OF SAW THAT COMING THERE BEFORE HE BROKE GROUND.

I THINK HE SAVED HIMSELF.

UM, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT VISION IN THAT AREA, VISION IN THE CITY.

THIS PIECE HAS BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE FOR A REASON.

AND WE WEREN'T HASTY.

WE DIDN'T APPROVE THINGS THAT WE KNEW PROBABLY REALLY WEREN'T GONNA WORK THERE.

UM, BUT THIS, THIS FITS THE MODEL AND I THINK WHAT YOU'LL SEE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SEVERAL HUNDRED PEOPLE A DAY USING THIS FACILITY THAT WILL CARRY OVER TO THE REST OF THAT AREA.

YOU'LL SEE PEOPLE USING RESTAURANTS AGAIN.

YOU WILL SEE PEOPLE USING, GOING TO BEST BUY.

HELL IS THERE TWICE THIS WEEKEND.

UM, SO THIS IS A GREAT USE FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IN MY MIND, AND THAT'S WHY I COMPLETELY SUPPORT THIS THIS EVENING.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE, PLEASE VOTE YES.

AND IT DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY.

CONGRATULATIONS.

[D. V-26-11 Brookside Concourse Landscape Strip Variance
Consideration of a variance request to eliminate a landscape strip requirement in order to allow for the subdivision of 2 office properties. A variance is requested from Unified Development Code Subsection 3.2.8(D)(4) to eliminate the 5’ landscape strip requirement along property lines which do not adjoin a street. The property is located at 4300, 4400, 4325 & 4425 Alexander Drive and is legally described as being located in Land Lots 50, 82 & 83, 1st District, 1st Section, Fulton County, Georgia.]

SO THE NEXT ITEM UP WILL BE V DASH 26 DASH 11 BROOKSIDE CONCOURSE LANDSCAPE STRIP VARIANCE.

MR. WOODMAN, YOU'RE A BUSY MAN THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

THE NEXT ITEM IS A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE TO ALLOW TWO OFFICE PARCELS TO BE SUBDIVIDED.

THE VARIANCE IS REQUESTED TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE SUBSECTION 3.2 0.8 D FOUR, AND THAT WOULD BE TO ELIMINATE THE FIVE FOOT LANDSCAPE STRIP THAT IS REQUIRED ALONG PROPERTY LINES, NOT ADJOINING A STREET, UM, PROPERTY, UH, WOULD REQUIRE FIVE LANDSCAPE STRIPS ALONG EACH SIDE OF THE NEW PROPERTY LINE.

THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP.

THIS IS FORTY THREE HUNDRED FORTY THREE TWENTY FIVE, FORTY FOUR HUNDRED AND FORTY FOUR TWENTY FIVE ALEXANDER DRIVE, AND THIS IS LOCATED WITHIN THE BROOKSIDE MASTER PLAN PROPERTY IS ZONED ONI OFFICE INSTITUTIONAL.

AND LET ME TAKE YOU TO THE SITE PLAN.

SO THERE'S TWO PARCELS HERE AND HERE.

UM, DISREGARD THE YELLOW PROPERTY LINE HERE RIGHT NOW.

THAT DOES NOT EXIST TODAY.

SO THIS IS JUST ALL ONE PARCEL, NORTH AND SOUTH OF ALEXANDER DRIVE, AND THIS IS JUST TO THE WEST OF BROOKSIDE PARKWAY IS HERE.

SO THE PROPERTY NORTH OF ALEXANDER DRIVE, THIS PROPERTY HERE IS 7.2 ACRES.

THE PROPERTY SOUTH IS 7.98 ACRES, AND BOTH PROPERTIES ARE DEVELOPED WITH TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS AND THEN PARKING SURROUNDING.

SO, SO THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED THIS SUBDIVISION PLAT AND THIS PLAT DEPICTS NEW PARCEL LINES BEING ADDED TO THE PRO PROPERTIES IN ORDER TO SUBDIVIDE THEM.

THE RESULTING PROPERTIES WOULD BE TWO PROPERTIES NORTH OF ALEXANDER AND TWO PROPERTIES SOUTH OF ALEXANDER, EACH WITH AN OFFICE BUILDING AND SURROUNDING PARKING.

WHEN YOU SUBDIVIDE AND YOU ADD A NEW PROPERTY LINE, OUR CODE DOES REQUIRE FIVE FOOT LANDSCAPE STRIPS ALONG THESE NEW PROPERTY LINES.

IF THOSE WERE TO BE ADDED ON EACH SIDE

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OF THE PROPERTY LINE, IT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO THE EXISTING PARKING LOT, AND THIS IS LIKELY JUST BEING DONE TO, SO THAT THE PROPERTIES COULD BE POTENTIALLY SOLD IN THE FUTURE.

SO LOOKING AT THOSE REVIEW CRITERIA FOR, FOR THE VARIANCE, WE BELIEVE IT'S THE APPLICATION OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD CREATE AN UNNECESSARY HARDSHIP HERE.

UM, AS I JUST MENTIONED, THE ADDING THE PROPERTY LINES WOULD REQUIRE THE, THE LANDSCAPE STRIPS, UM, FIVE FEET ON EACH SIDE, A TOTAL OF 10 FEET WITHIN THAT EXISTING PARKING LOT, AND THAT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO THAT PROPERTY.

UH, THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A CI CITIZEN PARTICIPATION REPORT INDICATING THAT THEY RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, UM, AND THE ITEM WAS SHOWN TO THE PUBLIC AT THE JUNE 10TH COMMUNITY ZONING INFORMATION MEETING.

AND THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THAT MEETING.

WITH THAT.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO ELIMINATE THE FIVE FOOT LANDSCAPE STRIP REQUIRED ALONG THE NEW PROPERTY LINES, AND THAT IS SUBJECT TO TWO CONDITIONS.

CONDITION.

ONE WOULD LI UH, LIMIT IT TO THIS SUBDIVISION PLAN AND TIE IT TO THIS PLAN.

AND THEN CONDITION TWO WOULD ELIMINATE THE FIVE FOOT LANDSCAPE STRIPS ALONG THOSE NEW PROPERTY LINES.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.

MAYOR PRO JIM, UM, A LOT OF TALK ABOUT PARKING TODAY, I'M JUST ASSUMING AND GONNA ASK THE QUESTION THAT ONCE WE PUT THESE BOUNDARIES UP, DO EACH OF THESE PARCEL MAINTAIN ENOUGH PARKING OR DOES THE PARKING NOT GO WITH THE PROPERTY? SO THE, THE PARKING WILL BE ON INDIVIDUAL, UM, PROPERTIES NOW, THEY WOULD MEET THEIR PARKING NEEDS ON THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES.

UM, I DON'T KNOW.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE AT THE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY INTEND TO PROVIDE RECIPROCAL SHARED PARKING AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES.

THE APPLICANT MAY HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM MR. WOODMAN? THANK YOU, SIR.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD? HI, MY NAME IS, UH, BIDDLE.

I'M WITH, WITH KIMLEY HORN ASSOCIATES.

ADDRESS IS 1200 PEACHTREE STREET IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA.

UH, AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENT IN TORONTO PARTNERS WHO OWNS THIS PROPERTY CURRENTLY.

UH, I GUESS TO ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION REGARDING THE PARKING, UM, AS OF NOW, THEY ARE NOT, THERE'S NO PLANS FOR A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT.

HOWEVER, THERE WILL, EXCUSE ME, THERE WILL BE, UH, AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE FOR SHARED ACCESS, UH, TO ALLOW FOR CIRCULATION TO CONTINUE, UM, AS IT CURRENTLY DOES.

BUT FOR, UH, FOR SOME ADDED CONTEXT TO, UM, MICHAEL DID ALLUDE TO THIS, BUT, UH, THIS WOULD GIVE, UH, MY CLIENT A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY WHEN MARKETING THIS PROPERTY TO EITHER LEASE OR SELL, SO THAT WAY A POTENTIAL BUYER WOULD NOT HAVE TO BUY TWO BUILDINGS.

UH, IT WOULD GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO, TO PURCHASE ONE, BUT THEY'RE WORKING ON FILLING THESE, UH, BUILDINGS OUT CURRENTLY.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COUNCILWOMAN REEVES? SO LET'S JUST SAY IT WERE TO GET SOLD, AND I WAS WONDERING IF THE APPLICATION OF ONE FIVE FOOT LAND, UH, LANDSCAPE STRIP BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM WOULD SEVERELY IMPACT IT, BECAUSE I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, IT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE TWO OWNERS.

THAT, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

I THINK IN THE FUTURE, IF IT WERE TO GET SOLD AND DEVELOPED, I THINK THAT WOULD, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD LIKE, APPLICATION TO IT.

BUT CURRENTLY, UH, AS THEY'RE TRYING TO FILL OUT THE, THEIR, THEIR MAIN FOCUS IS NOT TO SELL IT, BUT TO FILL IT.

AND IT'S MORE OF AN ALTERNATIVE IF THAT BECOMES THE BETTER OPTION FOR THEM.

UH, BUT CURRENTLY, UH, IF WE WERE TO DO A FIVE FOOT LANDSCAPE STRIP ON EITHER SIDE OR BOTH, HONESTLY, UH, IT WOULD HAVE KIND OF MAJOR IMPACTS TO THE CIRCULATION OF THESE PARKING LOTS, UM, FOR BOTH, UH, NORMAL USE AS WELL AS, UM, FOR LIKE THE FIRE ROUTE AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, IT WOULD REQUIRE, UM, NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LAND DISTURBANCE ACTIVITY IN ORDER TO PROVIDE PROPER TURNAROUNDS, UH, BECAUSE IT WOULD CREATE, UH, MANY DEAD ENDS, UH, IN THE PARKING LOT.

I'M NOT SURE IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.

I, OKAY.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANKS, SIR.

HOWEVER, IF ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM, NOW IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY.

MS. OR HUSKY, WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS,

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I DO NOT SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD, SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC.

COMMENT IN FAVOR, DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? I DO NOT SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD.

SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT, NO NEED FOR A REBUTTAL.

IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO YES, SIR.

MR. MAYOR, OFFER A MOTION THIS EVENING TO APPROVE V DASH 26 DASH 11 BROOKSIDE CONCOURSE LANDSCAPE STRIP VARIANCE AS PRESENTED THIS EVENING BY MR. WOODMAN.

HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TIMM MERCK ON A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BRADY.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE YES.

AND IT IS UNANIMOUS.

CONGRATULATIONS.

[E. Ordinance: Fire Prevention and Protection Text Amendments
FIRST READING
Consideration of text amendments to Chapter 20, referred to as Fire Prevention and Protection, to amend provisions related to adoption of state minimum fire safety standards; definitions; appeals from decisions of the fire department; storage of explosives, blasting agents, and liquified petroleum gases; sprinkler installation requirements; outdoor burning regulations; emergency access for gated communities; emergency responders radio coverage and testing; special fire services and public safety plans; fire watch personnel and fire safety officer requirements; permit requirements for certain assembly events, temporary events, or planned activities; fire and life safety record retention; records reporting system requirements through the use of third-party inspection reporting software programs; compliance reporting; enforcement provisions; and for other purposes.]

THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE THE ORDINANCE, FIRE PREVENTION AND PROTECTION TEXT AMENDMENTS.

CHIEF, YOU'RE UP.

OH, BEFORE YOU ARE, MS. SY MUST READ THE FOR US.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AN ORDINANCE BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ALFRED, GEORGIA TO AMEND CHAPTER 20 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF ALPHA ARE REFERRED TO AS THE FIRE PREVENTION AND PROTECTION ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE FOR EFFECTIVE DATES AND FURTHER PURPOSES.

THANK YOU, MS. SWIN.

THE FLOOR IS YOURS, CHIEF.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

IF YOU'LL RECALL, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, I WAS HERE IN A WORK SESSION PRESENTING THIS, UH, AT GREATER LENGTH.

SO TONIGHT I WAS JUST GONNA PREVENT, OR EXCUSE ME, PRESENT A BRIEF SUMMARY.

THE ORIGINAL TEXT THAT YOU HAD WAS A RED LINE VERSION, SO THERE'VE BEEN MINOR CHANGES IN THE VERBIAGE, JUST CLEANING SOME THINGS UP.

UH, BUT, UH, IN CONCEPT IT'S, IT'S THE SAME AS THE ORIGINAL PRESENTATION.

UH, AGAIN, JUST AS A REFRESHER, WHY ARE WE BRINGING THIS TO YOU IN GENERAL? AND IT'S BECAUSE THE CURRENT CHAPTER 20 HAS VERY OUTDATED LANGUAGE, LARGELY, UM, IT'S NOT TRANSPARENT FOR DEVELOPERS OR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COME IN AND, AND, UH, NEED TO APPLY THE CODE.

IT'S NOT CLEAR IN TERMS OF OUR ROLE AND OUR PROCESSES BEING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

UH, AND PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY, THERE ARE MULTIPLE PLACES WHERE WE DON'T ADHERE TO THE CURRENT STATE FIRE CODES.

UH, SO OUR PROPOSED UPDATES ARE ATTEMPTING TO REMEDY ALL OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHILE WE HAVE GONE THROUGH AND ADDRESSED.

AND, AND, UH, IN LARGE PART CHANGED ALMOST ALL OF THE VERBIAGE.

SOME OF THE MORE PERTINENT, UH, CHANGES ARE TO THE EMERGENCY ACCESS, WHICH IS WHERE YOU HAVE A GATE OR, UH, OTHER SUCH BARRIER ACROSS A FIRE ROAD.

UM, THERE WE ARE REQUIRING, CURRENTLY THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR A SIREN OPERATED SYSTEM WHERE A CHANGE IN THE CODE TO REQUIRE THE CLICK TO ENTER SYSTEM, WHICH IS, UH, ACTIVATED OFF OF OUR PORTABLE EMERGENCY RADIOS.

UH, AGAIN, IT'S MORE SECURE.

IT, IT FUNCTIONS BETTER, UH, FOR US, KEEPS, HELPS TO KEEP UNWANTED PEOPLE FROM ACCESSING THE SYSTEM.

UH, ANOTHER CHANGE THAT WE'VE MADE OR THAT WE ARE REQUESTING, SUGGESTING IS TO THE EMERGENCY RESPONDER RADIO COVERAGE OR THE ERRC, UH, ALSO KNOWN AS IFC FIVE 10.

IF YOU'RE IN THE, UH, THE BUILDING, UH, AREA, UH, WHAT WE'RE REQUIRING THERE IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR POTENTIAL FUTURE BUILD OUTS IN CASE, UH, AT THE END OF A BUILD, IT'S FOUND THAT THE, THE, THE RADIO TEST, THE CLARITY, THE QUALITY TESTS THAT ARE REQUIRED ARE NOT PASSED SO THAT THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND, AND, UH, UNDERTAKE EXPENSIVE RETROFITS.

UH, AND THEN FINALLY, ONE OF THE, UH, THE, THE MORE PERTINENT UPDATES IS, UH, THE EVENT, UH, RELATED TO EVENT SAFETY IN LARGE GATHERINGS.

UM, WE'VE SPECIFIED MORE CLARIFIED, MADE IT MORE TRANSPARENT, UH, WHAT THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS ARE WHEN, UH, A, A, UH, A PARTY HAVE TO NOTIFY US OF THEIR EVENT, UH, WHAT THE CRITERIA IS THAT WE EVALUATE IF WE NEED TO, UH, INTERVENE.

AND IF WE DO NEED TO INTERVENE WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF OUR, OF OUR, UH, UH, PERSONNEL AND THEIR PERSONNEL ARE.

UM, OF NOTE, AS WE MENTIONED LAST TIME, THIS DOES NOT INHERENTLY CHANGE OUR CURRENT PRACTICE.

IT BRINGS OUR CODE UP TO OUR CURRENT PRACTICE.

UM, JUST, UH, UH, IN A HIGH LEVEL, THERE IS VIRTUALLY NO, OR MOST RESIDENTS I SHOULD SAY, WE WILL SEE NO IMPACT, UH, OF THIS IN TERMS OF FINANCIAL, UH, UH, IMPACT.

THE, THE POTENTIAL PLACE WOULD BE THAT CLICK TO ENTER SYSTEM WHERE THERE WOULD BE, UH, THAT, THAT ADDITIONAL COST, A CLICK TO ENTER SYSTEM ON AVERAGE IS GONNA RUN SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 800 AND $1,500, UH, ABOVE THE SIREN OPERATED SYSTEM.

BUT THAT'S A ONE TIME JUST ON THE,

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THE INITIAL INSTALLATION.

UH, SO SOME RESIDENTS OR, OR, OR, UM, UM, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION MIGHT SEE SOME FINANCIAL IMPACT BASED ON THAT ONE THING.

OUTSIDE OF THAT, THERE SHOULD BE VIRTUALLY NO, UH, IMPACT TO THE RESIDENTS.

UH, ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE THOUGH, UH, THERE IS THAT ERRC PATHWAY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT I SPOKE ABOUT.

SO THERE IS A SLIGHT COST, UH, BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY DO THROUGH THE BUILDING PHASE.

UH, SO THE WALLS ARE ALREADY OPEN, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PUTTING, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL CONDUIT IN THE SAME, UH, PATHWAYS THAT THEY ALREADY, UH, ARE, ARE PUTTING OTHER CONDUIT.

UM, AND AGAIN, THE, THE INTENTION THERE IS TO, UH, ESSENTIALLY FUTURE PROOF THE BUILD.

SO IF WE GET TO THE, THE END OF THE BUILD AND, AND, AND THE TESTS PASS, OR EXCUSE ME, FAIL, THEY DON'T HAVE TO UNDERGO COSTLY, UH, UM, UM, REMEDIES AT THAT POINT.

OR IF THEY HAVE A, A NEIGHBOR, UH, EXCUSE ME, A NEIGHBOR COME AND BUILD AND SOMEHOW CHANGES THE, UH, THE, THE DYNAMICS FOR OUR RADIO SYSTEMS INSIDE THE PATHWAYS ARE ALREADY THERE.

AND IT'S A MATTER OF JUST PULLING SOME, SOME CABLE AND, AND ADDING SOME, SOME COMPONENTS.

UH, SO AGAIN, THE THESE IN THESE UPDATES ARE INTENDED TO, UH, BRING OUR CODE UP TO, UH, STANDARD WITH THE STATE MINIMUMS TO IMPROVE TRANSPARENCY, UH, AND CLARITY.

AND, UH, WOULD BE, UH, THRILLED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN REEVES FOR THE SPECIAL PERMITS, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF PLACES THAT ARE GATHERING SPOTS NOW, AND IF SOMEBODY HAS A PLANNED EVENT THAT SPILLS OUT ONTO OUR STREETS AND THEY DON'T GET A PERMIT, WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES I'LL HAVE TO DEFER TO OUR FIRE MARSHAL? SURE.

GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.

SO THE ORDINANCE, I'M GONNA PULL THE DEFINITION SPECIFICALLY IF YOU BEAR WITH ME.

IF IT SPECIFICALLY DEFINES, UM, TWO TYPES OF LOCATIONS, ONE BEING A PERMANENT VENUE.

SO EXAMPLES OF THESE ARE GONNA BE THEATERS, ARENA STADIUMS. IT'S PLACES THAT ARE BUILT SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT TYPE OF OCCUPANCY.

THE SECOND ONE IS GOING TO BE SPECIAL USE LOCATIONS.

SO THESE ARE GONNA BE YOUR OPEN SPACES LIKE PARKS OR PUBLIC AREAS.

UM, GENERALLY POPULATION SPILLING OUTSIDE OF A, WHAT WOULD BE A PERMANENT VENUE IS WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, TO A, A OPEN SPACE OR A SPECIAL USE LOCATION.

UM, THAT WOULD BASICALLY BE ADDRESSED PUBLIC SAFETY WISE BY LIKE, LIKE WE'D HAVE TO DETERMINE WHAT YOU MEAN BY SPILLING OVER.

SO IS IT JUST CROWD THAT'S NATURALLY KIND OF STARTING TO SYMBOL ON THE PUBLIC GREEN THAT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE ATTENDING A RESTAURANT OR IS IT A, HEY, MY, MY PERMIT VENUE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF EVENT HERE, BUT I WANNA SET UP TENTS.

I WANNA SET UP A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF OUTSIDE TO CONTINUE THE, UH, ENTERTAINMENT.

WELL, IN THAT CASE, THEY WOULD FALL UNDERNEATH THAT, UH, SPECIAL USE LOCATION WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE APPROVAL FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN PUBLIC SAFETY.

OTHERWISE, UM, IF IT WERE TO, TO AMOUNT TO THE SITUATION, THEN WE WOULD HANDLE IT WITH IT ON THE SPOT IN TERMS OF EITHER MOVING PEOPLE ON TO OPEN UP BACKUP ROADS, ET CETERA, UM, OR JUST TREATING IT AS ANY OTHER GATHERING INSIDE THE PUBLIC SPACE.

MODERNIZING OUR FIRE CODE.

YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL DONE, GENTLEMEN.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM? WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS.

OKAY, SO I ASSUME THAT MEANS WE HAVE NO ONE IN FAVOR NOR IN OPPOSITION.

I DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD.

WE'LL, CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES, MAYOR, MAKING A MOTION THAT COUNCIL, UH, ADOPT THE AMENDMENTS TO THE ORDINANCE AS PREVIOUSLY REFERENCED BY CITY ATTORNEY S SWINE TO CHAPTER 20, FIRE PROTECTION AND PREVENTION TO IMPROVE CLARITY, TRANSPARENCY, AND ADMINISTRATIVE CONSISTENCY WITHIN AN EXISTING STATE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN, HES SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM IN DISCUSSION.

COUNCILMAN, HES THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, TRY NOT TO, UH, UH, GIVE OUT THANK YOUS TO GRATUITOUSLY, BUT I WANT TO GIVE IT OUT HERE.

FIRE DEPARTMENT TOOK THIS UP SO FAR AS I KNOW, UNDER THEIR OWN INITIATIVE, EXTREMELY TEDIOUS WORK GOING THROUGH OUR FIRE CODE AND A LOT OF, A LOT OF HOURS WERE PUT INTO THIS.

AND CHIEF DENTURE AND FIRE MARSHAL TALBOT DESERVE A LOT OF CREDIT FOR, FOR DOING THIS.

AND IT'S, AND IT'S MORE THAN JUST UPDATING AND

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IT'S ALSO THE, THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.

AND THE FIRE CODE IS A BIG PART OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO BUSINESS AND INVEST IN OUR CITY TO GET SOMETHING BUILT AND TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW, PROVIDE MORE CLARITY AND PREDICTABILITY SO THAT OUR LAWS ARE MATCHED UP WITH THE STATE LAW.

IT IT'S GOING TO MEAN A LOT TO THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO BUSINESS IN OUR CITY.

AND SO I APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT.

UH, IF, IF SOMEBODY UP HERE ASKED THEM TO DO THAT, I APPLAUD YOU.

I DIDN'T ASK 'EM TO DO IT.

THEY DID IT ON THEIR OWN.

AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'RE SUCH A GREAT CITY.

WE JUST HAVE, YOU KNOW, TREMENDOUS PEOPLE WHO TAKE INITIATIVE.

AND I WANNA THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE, PLEASE VOTE YES AND IT IS UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

[A. Request for Proposal 26-116: Webb Bridge Road Design - Morris Road to East of North Point Pkwy
Consideration and approval of the award of RFP 26-116 for the design of Webb Bridge Road from Morris Road to East of North Point Pkwy and multiple intersection upgrades, such as adding traffic signals at the intersections of Douglas Road at Clubhouse Drive and North Point Pkwy at Tradewinds Pkwy to Lowe Engineers consulting firm with a contract term of 17-months from Notice to Proceed, in an amount not to exceed $281,000.00, and authorize the Mayor to execute all necessary documents.]

THE NEXT ITEM UP WILL BE NEW BUSINESS, AND THAT'S REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL 26 DASH 116 WOODBRIDGE ROAD DESIGN, MORRIS ROAD TO EAST OF NORTH POINT PARKWAY.

GETTING THE MAYOR COUNCIL FOR YOU NOT IS THE, UM, OUR LAST PHASE OF WE, WE BRIDGE ROAD G DOS STILL GONNA GO FROM WEST SIDE TO UM, MORRIS ROAD.

WE'RE GONNA GO FROM MORRIS ROAD TO ABOUT THE HIGH SCHOOL ENTRANCE, JUST SHY OF THE HIGH SCHOOL ENTRANCE, BUT ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS RFP WAS THE, UM, TRADEWINDS PROJECTS THAT WERE ASSOCIATED WITH T PLUS TWO, WHICH WE'RE GONNA TRADEWINDS IS THE NEW OVERPASS OF GEORGIA 400.

IT'LL THE NEW INGRESS EGRESS TO THE EXPRESS LANES.

SO WE'RE GOING TO, UM, DESIGN A SIGNAL AT TRADEWINDS AT NORTH POINT PARKWAY AS WELL AS ADD DUAL LEFT TURN LANES FROM SOUTHBOUND WEST SIDE ONTO WESTBRIDGE ROAD.

THAT'S ALL PART OF THIS DES RFP DESIGN PACKAGE.

ALSO INCLUDED AS A DOUGLAS ROAD, A CLUBHOUSE DRIVE TROPIC SIGNAL.

WE RECEIVED, UM, PROPOSALS FROM FIVE FIRMS. LOW ENGINEERS WAS THE HIGHEST RATED FIRM, AS WELL AS THE LOWEST COST FOR FIRM AT $281,000.

STAFF MET WITH THEM EARLIER THIS MONTH AND RECOMMENDS AWARD.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MR. VIC? MUST DONE A GREAT JOB.

NOBODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS, PETE, MS. OR HUSKY? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? NO, SIR, WE DO NOT.

HOWEVER, ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK FAVOR OR OPPOSITION? NOW'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY.

I DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD, SO I'LL CALL FOR A MOTION MAYOR.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE, UM, A MOTION.

WE AWARD RFP 26 DASH 116 FOR THE DESIGN OF WE BRIDGE ROAD FROM MORSE ROAD TO EAST OF NORTH POINT PARKWAY AND MULTIPLE INTERSECTION UPGRADES SUCH AS ADDING TRAFFIC SIGNALS AT THE INTERSECTIONS OF DOUGLAS ROAD AND CLUBHOUSE DRIVE, AND NORTH POINT PARKWAY, A TRADEWINDS PARKWAY TO LOW ENGINEERS CONSULTING FIRM WITH A CONTRACT TERM OF 17 MONTHS.

UM, NOTICE TO PROCEED AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $281,000 AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN REEVES, A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BRADY.

ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILWOMAN REEVES.

I KNOW THAT ALL THIS STUFF IS GONNA TAKE A LONG TIME.

I, I TALKED TO PETE ABOUT A, A COUPLE OF THE ITEMS THEY ARE GOING TO BE VERY IMPACTFUL AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

I'M JUST GLAD TO SEE US TAKE THIS NEXT STEP IN THIS PROJECT.

UH, I APPRECIATE IT.

IS REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS 26 DASH 1 0 1 PUBLIC BIKE SHARE PROGRAM, EQUIPMENT OPERATIONS AND SERVICES FOR THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA.

THANK YOU, PETE.

THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE.

YES AND IT DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU MAYOR COUNSEL.

THANKS PETE.

NEXT ITEM

[B. Request For Qualifications (RFQ) 26-1001: Public Bike Share Program: Equipment, Operations, and Services for City of Alpharetta
Consideration to award RFQ 26-1001 to Tandem Mobility, LLC for Public Bike Share Program Services with a contract term of five-years and authorize the Mayor to execute all necessary documents. Consideration to enter into a Memorandum of Understanding with the Alpharetta Convention and Visitors Bureau, Inc. for sponsorship of a Public Bike Share Program and authorize the Mayor to execute all necessary documents. Consideration to enter into a Memorandum of Understanding with True North 400 for sponsorship of a Public Bike Share Program and authorize the Mayor to execute all necessary documents. Consideration to enter into a Memorandum of Understanding with PR Avalon Phase 1 Owner, LLC for sponsorship of a Public Bike Share Program and authorize the Mayor to execute all necessary documents.]

MR. ROGERS TIME FOR SOME FUN.

LET'S DO, WE ARE, UH, HERE TONIGHT TO TRY TO BRING SOME FUN, SOME OF THE FUN THAT WAS BEEN MISSING FROM ALPHARETTA FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

OFFICIALLY, WE WERE ASKING FOR, UH, APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT WITH TANDEM MOBILITY LLC FOR PUBLIC BIKE SHARE PROGRAM HERE IN ALPHARETTA.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'RE ASKING FOR CONSIDERATION OF MEM MEMORANDUMS OF UNDERSTANDING WITH TRUE NORTH 400 WITH AVALON AND WITH THE CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU.

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A LITTLE HISTORY LESSON IS BACK IN 2016, THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA ESTABLISHED A BIKE SHARE PROGRAM WITH A COMPANY CALLED BAXTER.

THAT THAT PROGRAM GREW TO WHERE WE HAD FIVE, UM, BIKE SHARE LOCATIONS BETWEEN THE CITY OF ROSWELL AND ALPHARETTA.

AND THEN 2020 Z EXTRA WENT OUT OF BUSINESS.

UM, SO WE'VE BEEN WITHOUT A BIKE SHARE PROGRAM SINCE 2020.

UM, STAFF PUT TOGETHER AN RFQ ASKING FOR A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FROM BIKE SHARE PROGRAMS, UM, THAT WANTED TO OFFER A BIKE SHARE PROGRAM HERE IN ALPHA.

WE RECEIVED TWO UM, ENTRIES, ONE FROM TANDEM MOBILITY AND THE OTHER FROM DROP MO MOBILITY.

TANDEM MOBILITY SCORED THE HIGHEST, UH, THROUGH A STAFF EVALUATION PROCESS AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING IT FORWARD TONIGHT.

THE BIKE SHARE PROGRAM, UH, IF APPROVED, WE'LL HAVE FIVE BIKE LOCATE BIKE SHARE LOCATIONS IN THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA.

ONE OF THOSE WILL BE AT TOWN GREEN, AND THAT ONE WILL BE SPONSORED BY THE ALFREDA CONVENTIONAL VISITORS BUREAU.

THE THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE AT AVALON, AND THAT WOULD BE SPONSORED BY AVALON.

THE THIRD ONE WOULD BE AT THE, UH, WEST SIDE, ALONG THE ALPHA LOOP WHERE WEST SIDE, UH, WHERE THE LOOP GOES UNDER WEST SIDE.

AND THAT ONE WOULD BE SPONSORED BY TRUE NORTH 400.

THERE'D BE ONE AT THE NORTH, UM, AT, UH, NORTH, UH, OH MY GOSH, NORTH POINT, EXCUSE ME, NORTH POINT PARK.

UM, UH, AND THAT, UM, WOULD BE SPONSORED BY TREE NORTH 400 AND THEN THERE'D BE ONE AT ROCK MILL, WHICH WOULD BE SPONSORED, UH, JOINTLY BY THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA AND THE NORTH SIDE HOSPITAL THROUGH A GRANT THAT THEY, THEY GIVE US.

UM, AND THE BIKE SHARE IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD, WE CAN DO WITH THAT MONEY FROM NORTHSIDE.

SO, UM, THE, UH, THE FIRST HOUR WOULD BE FREE FOR ANYBODY TO USE, UM, AND THEN THE SECOND HOUR WOULD COST SECOND.

EVERY 30 MINUTES AFTER THAT WOULD COST $2 AND 50 CENTS.

TANDEM BICYCLE, THEY TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THE, UM, ALL OF THE BICYCLES.

THEY HAVE TO REPAIR THE BICYCLES, KEEP 'EM IN RUN, GOOD RUNNING ORDER.

THEY HAVE TO DO ALL OF THE, UM, SOFTWARE AND THE TECHNOLOGY BEHIND RENTING THE BIKE.

UH, THEY COLLECT THE MONEY, UM, UM, AFTER THE FIRST THREE HOUR, BUT THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA RECEIVES THAT MONEY FROM TANDEM.

UM, EACH OF THE LOCATIONS IS A $12,000 A YEAR COMMITMENT FROM EACH OF THESE LOCATIONS.

AND THAT MONEY IS BEING PAID BY A THIRD PARTY IN OUR GROUP.

SO THIS IS A GREAT PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY, UM, IN OUR JOINT USAGE.

I'D BE, THAT'S, UH, UH, THE WATER TOWER VIEW OF THE BIKE SHARE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD TONIGHT.

I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THIS EXCITING, FUN PROGRAM, MAYOR PRO 10.

GREAT JOB MORGAN.

APPRECIATE IT.

UM, I WAS HERE WHEN WE APPROVED IT IN 16 AND I WAS HERE WHEN IT DIED IN 2020.

UM, AND THEN WITH COVID COMING OUT AND EVERYBODY SCRAMBLING, SO WE BACK JUST A POINT YOU MENTIONED IN HERE, UM, BASED ON THE SUCCESS OF THESE FIVE LOCATIONS, WE CAN LOOK TO EXPAND THIS TO OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE CITY.

I'D LIKE TO GIVE SOME SERIOUS CONSIDERATION TO THE NORTHEAST SIDE, WHETHER IT'S UNION HILL PARK OR MARCONI, TO GET ACCESS TO THAT CORRIDOR BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS ACTUALLY LIVE UP THERE.

I JUST WANNA PUT THAT ON.

WELL, THE BEAUTY OF THIS PROGRAM IS IT TAKES FIVE STATIONS TO GET US STARTED.

TANDEM NEEDS AT LEAST FIVE LOCATIONS FOR THEM TO START THE PROGRAM, BUT ONCE THEY STARTED, WE CAN ADD PROGRAMS, UH, ADDITIONAL, UH, STATIONS, FIVE AT A TIME, ANYTIME THAT SOMEBODY COMES UP AND SAYS, WE WANT TO BE PART OF THIS BIKESHARE PROGRAM.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THERE'S BUSINESSES AND, UM, LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND MAYBE EVEN, UH, UH, UH, NEXT TO THE CITY THAT WILL WANNA BECOME PART OF THIS PROGRAM AND WE CAN ADD THOSE ADDITIONAL PARTNERS ON VERY EASILY.

NOW YOU SAID FIVE AT A TIME.

DOES THAT MEAN WE COULDN'T ADD ONE OR TWO? NO.

FIVE BIKES AT A TIME, SO OH, OKAY.

ANY, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE FIVE NOW.

THAT'S THE MINIMUM WE HAD TO HAVE.

SO IF A MONTH FROM NOW SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT A BIKE SHARE AT LOCATION AT THEIR LOCATION, WE CAN ADD THAT LOCATION WITH FIVE BIKES AT ANY TIME.

GOT IT.

UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO WE THINK THERE'S A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR, TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL PARTNERSHIPS IN THE GROWTH OF THIS PROGRAM.

SO WE REALLY CAN KEEP ALPHARETTA MOVING, UM, ON THE TWO WHEELS.

LOCKED AND IT'LL, IT'LL TAKE IT OFF YOUR CREDIT CARD.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

COUNCIL REEVES, AND I'M ASSUMING ALL THE BIKES HAVE TO BE RETURNED TO THE LOCATION THEY WERE RENTED FROM? NO, THEY DON'T.

THEY HAVE TO BE RETURNED TO A TANDEM MOBILITY LOCATION, SO YOU CAN RENT ONE AT TOWN GREEN AND LEAVE IT AT ROCK MILL AND IN AN UBER HOME IF YOU WANT TO.

SO YOU JUST HAVE TO LEAVE IT AT ONE OF THEIR LOCATIONS, UM, BECAUSE THEIR SOFTWARE WILL PICK UP THAT IS DOCKED AND

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SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE BEAUTY OF ADDITIONAL SPACES THAT IT JUST GIVES PEOPLE MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THINGS.

AND I WOULD ECHO I THINK THAT, UM, I THINK THAT SOMEWHERE, UM, WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM SAID SOMEWHERE UP THERE WOULD BE OFF WIND WOULD BE A REALLY GREAT LOCATION.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S, I THINK MARCONIS REALLY NICELY SITUATED, BUT, UM, MAYBE WE CAN ALL PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER, WORK, WORK ON THAT.

YEP.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

THANK YOU, SIR.

MS. OR HUSKY, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? OH, SIR, WE DO NOT.

HOWEVER, ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK ON THE RIDESHARE PROGRAM.

I DO NOT SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD.

SO WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM CITY COUNCIL? YES, MAYOR.

AND THIS MIGHT BE, UH, BIT LENGTHY OF A MOTION.

MAKE A MOTION TO COUNCIL AWARD RFQ 26 DASH ONE FOR PUBLIC BIKE SHARE PROGRAM SERVICES TO TANDEM MOBILITY LLC WITH A CONTRACT TERM OF FIVE YEARS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $60,000 ANNUALLY, OF WHICH 48,000 ANNUALLY WOULD BECOME FROM PARTNER SPONSORSHIPS AND $12,000 ANNUALLY FROM THE CITY.

AND THAT THE, AND FURTHER THAT COUNSEL APPROVED MEMORANDUMS OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE ALPHARETTA CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU, TRUE NEW TRUE NORTH 400 AND PR AVALON, PHASE ONE, OWNER LLC FOR SPONSORSHIP OF THE PUBLIC BIKE SHARE PROGRAM AND AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HE SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN REEVES.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE YES.

AND IT IS UNANIMOUS.

SO THE

[C. Ordinance: Alcoholic Beverages Text Amendments
SECOND READING: The first reading occurred at the July 13, 2026 City Council meeting.
Consideration of an ordinance to amend Chapter 4, titled “Alcoholic Beverages,” of the Code of the City of Alpharetta, Georgia. The proposed modifications will amend provisions related to alcohol service and consumption at publicly-owned facilities; to provide for severability; to provide for an effective date; and for other purposes. ]

NEXT ITEM UP WILL BE THE ORDINANCE, ALCOHOL, ALCOHOL, LAKE BEVERAGES, TEXT AMENDMENTS, MS. S SWINE, WOULD YOU MIND READING THE ORDINANCE TITLE ALOUD? AN ORDINANCE BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ALFREDA, GEORGIA TO AMEND CHAPTER FOUR OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF ALFREDA REFERRED TO AS THE ALCOHOL ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE FOR EFFECTIVE DATES AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ZO HUSKY.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

UH, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UM, SO THIS IS THE SECOND READING FOR THE ORDINANCE TO, UM, ADOPT CHANGES TO SECTION, WHAT IS IT, SORRY, 57 OF THE ALCOHOL BEVERAGE ORDINANCE.

THIS WOULD UPDATE THE PUBLICLY OWNED FACILITY SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE TO INCLUDE THE ARTS CENTER.

UM, WE'RE BRINGING THIS AHEAD OF SOME OF THE OTHER CHANGES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME CURRENTLY SCHEDULED AND ANTICIPATED TO BE SCHEDULED EVENTS WHERE, YOU KNOW, ALCOHOL SERVICE WOULD BE A BENEFIT.

UM, THE ART CENTER HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY ALLOWED TO SERVE ALCOHOL, BUT WAS NOT INCLUDED SPECIFICALLY IN OUR PUBLICLY OWNED FACILITIES SECTION AS AN ALLOWED EVENT CENTER FOR ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION AND SERVICE.

AND SO THIS IS JUST US CLEANING UP A LITTLE BIT AND ADDING THAT SO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO SERVE ALCOHOL AT THEIR EVENTS.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

OH, SORRY.

UH, THE ONLY CHANGE WE HAVE MADE WAS TO, UH, CORRECT SOME OF THE SECTION NUMBERS, BUT THAT IS IT.

NO OTHER CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE THE FIRST READING.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS OR HUSKY? ALL RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT COMMENTS? NO, SIR, WE DO NOT.

HOWEVER, IF YOU'D LIKE COMING FORWARD AND SPEAK FORWARD ON THIS ITEM, NOW'S YOUR CHANCE.

DON'T SEE ANY PUBLIC COMING FORWARD.

SO, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNSEL? YES, SIR.

MR. MAYOR, I'D OFFER A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SECOND READING FOR THE ORDINANCE ALCOHOL BEVERAGE TEXT AMENDMENT CHAPTER FOUR, TITLED ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA, GEORGIA IS PRESENTED THIS EVENING.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PROTO A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BRADY.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE YES.

AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

SO WE

[D. Resolution: Authorization to Intervene and to Petition for Temporary Collection of Taxes
Consideration and approval of a resolution authorizing the City to intervene in Fulton County's Petition for Temporary Tax Collection Relief and to petition the Superior Court of Fulton County for an Order authorizing the immediate and temporary collection of municipal ad valorem taxes.]

WILL MOVE RIGHT ALONG THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZATION TO INTERVENE

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AND TO PETITION FOR TEMPORARY COLLECTION OF TAXES, MS. SWIN, A RESOLUTION BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ALFREDA, GEORGIA, AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO INTERVENE IN FULTON COUNTY'S PETITION FOR TEMPORARY TAX COLLECTION RELIEF TO PETITION THE SUPERIOR COURT OF FULTON COUNTY FOR AN ORDER AUTHORIZING THE IMMEDIATE AND TEMPORARY COLLECTION OF MUNICIPAL ACT ALARM TAXES AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO TAKE ALL NECESSARY LEGAL ACTIONS AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

UM, SO I BELIEVE YOU WERE ALL AWARE THAT JUST DUE TO THE NUMBER OF PACKAGES THAT THE FULTON COUNTY ASSESSORS HAD TO PROCESS THIS YEAR, UH, THE FULTON COUNTY TAX DIGEST IS DELAYED AND THAT, UM, ULTIMATELY ENDS UP AFFECTING THE CITY'S ABILITY TO COLLECT TAXES.

SO FULTON COUNTY, UM, ACTUALLY FILED THEIR PETITION IN THE SUPERIOR COURT ON FRIDAY.

WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN THE RULE NI WITH THE SCHEDULE, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU WANNA MOVE ALONG QUICKLY.

UM, SCHEDULING A HEARING FOR THIS FOR AUGUST 4TH AND TO PROTECT THE CITY'S INTERESTS AND TO ENSURE THAT ANY ORDER THAT THE COURT WILL ENTER INTO AND TO PREVENT ANY CHALLENGES TO THE CITY'S ABILITY TO COLLECT TAXES, WE THINK THAT THE MOST PRUDENT OPTION IS FOR THE CITY TO INTERVENE.

UH, THE COURT'S ORDER ACTUALLY CONTEMPLATES THAT ANYBODY CAN INTERVENE THAT NEEDS TO, AND THAT IS, UM, MY OFFICE'S RECOMMENDATION.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE RESOLUTION, UM, WOULD AUTHORIZE US TO DO.

UM, WE WOULD BE, UM, IN THE RESOLUTION, IT MAKES FINDINGS AS TO WHY THE TEMPORARY COLLECTION OF TAXES IS NECESSARY FOR THE CITY.

I THINK THAT THE RESOLUTION SPEAKS FOR ITSELF ON THAT POINT.

UM, AND TOM CAN OTHERWISE ENLIGHTEN US ON WHY WE NEED OUR TAXES COLLECTED .

UM, BUT IT OTHERWISE JUST AUTHORIZES MY OFFICE TO PREPARE, UM, A PRETTY SIMPLE PETITION TO INTERVENE AND GET SUPPORTING AFFIDAVITS FROM MAYOR, UM, THE MAYOR, POTENTIALLY.

CHRIS AND TOM IN SUPPORT OF THAT.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ITEM? COUNCILMAN BRADY? AND THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A QUESTION, JUST MECHANICAL KIND OF PIECES THERE.

I'LL, I'LL FRAME IT IN THE FORM OF QUESTION.

SO WE WILL SEND OUT, BASED UPON LAST YEAR'S TAXES OUT TO THE, THE RESIDENTS, PROPERTY OWNERS AND, AND ALPHARETTA THEN FOR THE, THE VALUES, CORRECT? YES.

AND IF THEY CHANGE, THEY'LL GO BACK OUT.

AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT WILL BE BILLED AT A LATER DATE, LET'S JUST SAY FEBRUARY 1ST, AND THEN THOSE THINGS WILL BE COLLECTED AT THAT POINT.

THAT'S THE KIND OF MECHANICAL PROCEDURE WE'RE LOOKING AT.

RIGHT.

AND I'LL WORK WITH TOM TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT PUT IN THE PETITION IS SOMETHING HE'S DEFINITELY COMFORTABLE WITH.

ULTIMATELY, THE RATE THAT THE COURT ENDS UP ADOPTING, UM, IS IN THE BROAD DISCRETION OF THE COURT AND WILL WILL TAKE WHAT THEY GIVE US.

RIGHT.

BUT, UM, YES.

AND, AND TOM, AND I'VE ALREADY STARTED THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN? HES, SO IF POTENTIALLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO NOTICES GO OUT AND INITIAL AND POTENTIALLY A SUPPLEMENTAL POTENTIALLY, YES, SIR.

UM, I'M SURE THE CITY, UH, I HOPE THAT THE CITY WILL, UH, DO ITS BEST TO PUBLICIZE THAT SO THAT OUR RESIDENTS, UH, ARE FOREWARNED AND NOT CAUGHT OFF GUARD.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF SOMEBODY IN THE PRESS PICKS THAT UP AS WELL, THEY'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, AMPLIFY THAT.

CERTAINLY WITHIN THE CITY.

THOSE DISCUSSIONS HAVE ALREADY BEGUN.

ITEM WILL BE THE WORK SESSION.

COUNCILMAN RAS.

AND IN THE, IN THE RARE OCCASION WHERE SOMEBODY'S TAXES MIGHT ACTUALLY, YOUR APPRAISAL WOULD GO DOWN FROM 25 TO 26, THEN IT WOULD BE WORKED OUT FOR A REFUND.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT TOM AND I HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSING TO TRY AND AVOID THAT SITUATION COMING UP.

THIS HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE IN THE CITY.

THERE ARE WAYS TO APPROACH THIS TO HOPEFULLY PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING, BUT WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY NOT OVERTAX ANYONE IN THE CITY.

WE'VE SEEN THIS MOVIE BEFORE HERE IN FULTON.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MS. OR HUSKY? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? NO, SIR.

WE DO NOT DO, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES, MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZATION TO INTERVENE AND TO PETITION FOR TEMPORARY COLLECTION OF TAXES AS PRESENTED.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BRADY, A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN REEVES IN DISCUSSION.

WELL, I'M ON MY SOAPBOX TONIGHT.

OH BOY.

, I'M SO SICK OF THE FULTON COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR SCREWING UP THAT MAINSTREAM REVENUE STREAM FOR EVERY CITY IN FULTON COUNTY.

AND THE FACT IT IS, I MEAN, IT'S RIDICULOUS.

AND, AND SO ONE, I WANNA SAY FIRST, IF THERE'S STATE LEGISLATORS OUT THERE, WE NEED TO FIX THIS.

IT'S

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RIDICULOUS.

IT, IT'S ABSURD TO HAVE TO RELY ON AN INCOMPETENT OFFICIAL EVERY YEAR.

THEY NEVER GET IT DONE ON TIME.

THEY NEVER GET IT RIGHT.

I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE A MESS.

I'M JUST THINKING OF THE POOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE ESCROWS.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE IN AN ESCROW ON THEIR MORTGAGE, THEY'RE JUST GONNA CUT A CHECK FOR WHATEVER THE INITIAL ONE IS.

HOW ARE THEY GONNA GO BACK AND GET THAT MONEY? IT IS, IT IS JUST REALLY PATHETIC THAT WE HAVE SUCH A SCREWED UP GOVERNMENT AND IT'S ALL REQUIRED BY THE STATE TO FORCE US TO RELY ON AN INCOMPETENT TAX ASSESSOR.

AND IT'S ABSURD THAT WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

AND IF THERE'S A GOVERNOR CANDIDATE OUT THERE THAT'S LISTENING, OR, YOU KNOW, LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR CANDIDATE THAT WANTS PLATFORM, HIT ME UP.

SO THAT'S IT.

I JUST NEED TO VENT.

'CAUSE IT, IT'S HAPPENED EVERY YEAR.

IT, IT, IT, NOT ONCE.

DO WE EVER GET IT ON TIME? AND IF WE EVEN GET CLOSE TO IT BEING ON TIME, IT'S NOT RIGHT TO BEGIN WITH.

SO WE NEED TO FIX IT, BUT IT'S OUT OF OUR CONTROL.

SO WE NEED TO FIND PEOPLE THAT ARE FIX IT FOR US.

THAT BEING SAID, ALL THOSE THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE VOTE YES.

AND IT DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY.

SO NEXT

[A. Alcohol Ordinance Text Amendments
Discussion of proposed text amendments to Chapter 4, titled "Alcoholic Beverages," of the Code of the City of Alpharetta.]

ALCOHOL ORDINANCE, TEXT AMENDMENTS, SCHROEDER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

GOOD EVENING.

TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA SHARE THE FLOOR AMONGST THE CLERK'S, OFFICE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, AS THIS IS A PRETTY BIG, UM, PRETTY BIG UN UNDERTAKING.

MM-HMM .

UM, THERE'S LOTS OF, LOTS OF HOURS OF DISCUSSIONS AND, AND CHANGES AND, AND THINGS THAT HAVE GONE INTO THIS.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES THAT YOU SAW, I'M SURE IN YOUR PACKETS THAT ARE SOME WORDING CHANGES.

THERE'S A, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF THAT IN THERE THAT, THAT CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND MR. SHAPIRO AND I FOUND THAT JUST DIDN'T LINE UP WITH STATE LAW, DIDN'T LINE UP WITH HOW WE WERE OPERATING AND COLLECTING OUR, UM, EXCISE TAXES OR ON WHAT DAY AND, AND THIS AND THAT.

SO WE'VE CLEANED ALL THAT UP AS WELL IN HERE.

IT'S SHOWN IN THESE DOCUMENTS, BUT I'M, UM, WE'RE PREPARED TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ABOUT 'EM, BUT NOT NECESSARILY GONNA FOCUS ON THOSE.

UM, SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON ARE SOME OF THE BIGGER CHANGES.

UM, WE ADDED SOME NEW DEFINITIONS AND TWEAKED A COUPLE OTHER DEFINITIONS.

WE ADDED A DEFINITION FOR AN INDOOR RECREATIONAL ESTABLISHMENT.

WE PUT, UM, DEFINITIONS IN FOR MORAL TURPITUDE.

THAT WAS ONE THAT WAS A DISQUALIFIER FOR A LICENSE, BUT IT WAS NOT DEFINED IN OUR ORDINANCE.

SO WE, WE GOT THAT DEFINED.

UM, WE'VE GOT PUBLIC ENTERTAINMENT FACILITY AND WE PUT A, UM, DEFINITION FOR REGISTERED AGENT.

SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE IN IN JUST A MINUTE.

ONE OF THE OTHER CHANGES WE'VE ADDED IS, UM, A FEW YEARS BACK, WE TOOK THE MAPS, MOST OF THEM OUT OF THE UDC OR OUT OF THE, UM, CITY CODE.

'CAUSE THEY REFERENCED ODD THINGS THAT WEREN'T REALLY, UM, TRUE MAPS.

SO WE'VE BROUGHT BACK ONE INTO THE, UM, ALCOHOL ORDINANCE, UM, THAT IS THE DEFINED DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN THE ALCOHOL ORDINANCE THAT, THAT ARE DEFINED BY THAT DISTRICT.

OPEN CARIES, ONE OF THEM.

THERE'S SOME OTHER DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS AND THINGS.

SO YOU SEE TWO DIFFERENT VERSION OR TWO DIFFERENT IMAGES ON THIS MAP.

THE RED HASHED LINES ARE THE DISTRICT, BY THE WAY.

THE, UM, GIS MAP READS IT OUT.

THOSE ARE THE DEFINED LINES.

THE BLACK HASHED LINES ARE THE PARCELS THAT ARE DIRECTLY ABUTTING THAT LINE.

AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS FOUND THAT, THAT THOSE PARCELS NEED TO BE INCLUDED, UM, IN ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE, UM, THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.

SO SHE CAN MAYBE EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHY YOU SEE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

THIS MAP WILL BE IN ORDINANCE, SO IT'LL BE EASILY, UM, UM, ESTABL OR EASILY SEEN BY THE FOLKS WANTING TO DO SOMETHING IN DOWNTOWN.

SO SOME

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OTHER CHANGES, UM, IN THE LICENSING QUALIFICATIONS LINE, WE, UM, WE'VE HAD SOME, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A, A REQUIREMENT FOR A REGISTERED AGENT.

RECENTLY WE'VE HAD SOME PROBLEMS FINDING REGISTERED AGENTS, UM, BECAUSE THEY WERE REQUIRED TO LIVE IN FULTON COUNTY.

UM, NOT MANY FOLKS, UM, FOLLOWED THE REQUIREMENTS AND UPDATING REGISTERED AGENTS, ADDRESSES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE HAD SOME, SOME FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT, UM, ISSUES.

SO, UM, I ASKED THE CITY'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IF WE COULD NARROW THAT DOWN AND MAKE, SO THAT MY STAFF WOULDN'T HAVE TO SPEND POTENTIALLY SO MUCH TIME SEARCHING FULTON COUNTY, UM, FOR A REGISTERED AGENT WHO MAY OR MIGHT NOT EVEN LIVE THERE ANYMORE.

UM, BUT IT WOULD ONLY BE THE CITY.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR A REQUIREMENT TO NARROW THE REGISTERED AGENT, THAT THEY ACTUALLY BE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA.

REGISTERED AGENTS, IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE DEFINITION, ARE ONLY FOR SERVICE OF DOCUMENTS.

THEY AREN'T HOLD HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST THE SERVICE OF THE DOCUMENT AND REQUIRED TO GET THAT TO THE, THE PERSON THAT THEY'RE SERVING AS AGENT FOR SOME OTHER CHANGES.

UM, BACKGROUND CHECKS.

WE SORT OF TOUCHED ON IT A WHILE BACK, BUT BACKGROUND CHECKS, WE FELT WERE, WERE A LITTLE BIT LACKING.

WE WERE ONLY GETTING THOSE ON A NEW APPLICATION.

AND ONCE THAT APPLICATION WENT THROUGH, UNLESS A OWNER CHANGED OR THEY ADDED A PARTNER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE WOULDN'T GET ANY MORE BACKGROUND CHECKS OR ANY, ANYTHING ON THAT.

AND, AND IN SOME CASES, THEY COULD ADD A PARTNER THAT WOULDN'T REQUIRE A BACKGROUND CHECK.

SO WE'RE ASKING TO, UM, AMEND THAT AND REQUIRE A BACKGROUND CHECK FOR EVERYONE THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE EVERY OTHER YEAR.

SO WE'LL DO THAT ON THE NEW YEAR.

SO IF ENACTED, WE'LL START WITH THE 28 RENEWALS.

28 RENEWALS.

UM, EXCISE TAXES, EXCISE TAXES ON, UM, THERE'S DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT TYPES, DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO WHEN THOSE COME AVAILABLE NEXT FALL, WE'LL START THOSE BACKGROUND CHECKS.

UM, EXPANDED DEFINITION OF CONVICTIONS.

UM, CURRENTLY WE CAN ONLY LOOK AT CONVICTIONS IN THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA FOR ALCOHOL ORDINANCE ISSUES WHEN WE'RE DOING A BACKGROUND CHECK THAT'S EXPANDED TO THE STATE OF GEORGIA.

SO WE CAN, AND THAT MIGHT BE A MOLLY QUESTION.

WE MIGHT, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN USE THAT AS A REVOCATION OR A SUSPENSION ASPECT, BUT IT WOULD, BUT IT COULD, IT WILL BE, UM, AS REVIEWED AS PART OF THE NEW APPLICATION.

QUALIFICATIONS FOR NEW.

WE ALSO CLEANED UP, THERE'S, UM, AS ALL OF YOU KNOW, THAT ARE INVOLVED IN BUSINESSES, THERE ARE SO MANY TYPES OF PARTNERSHIPS, CORPORATIONS, DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND THERE'S, THERE'S VERY SPECIFIC THINGS THAT, THAT THEY CAN DO AND WAYS THAT THEY CAN CHANGE THEIR LICENSE OR THEIR, THEIR ORGANIZATION WITHOUT HAVING TO DO BACKGROUND, OTHER BACKGROUND CHECKS, LOSING THEIR CURRENT LICENSE AND APPLYING FOR NEW.

SO WE GOT THE, UM, AGAIN, THE CITY'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO GET THAT WE RESEARCH DONE FOR US.

AND WE, WE MEET STATE SAME THINGS.

THE STATE, UM, REQUIREMENTS ARE ON THOSE NOW.

COMPLIANCE AND FEES.

UM, RIGHT NOW, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, OR ALL OF YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH A, A BIG FEE, UM, ISSUE WITH THE BUSINESS LICENSES.

WE STARTED ABOUT THREE AND A HALF WEEKS AGO WITH 900 BUSINESSES THAT HADN'T RENEWED FOR 2026 YET.

UM, MY STAFF'S GOT THAT NARROWED DOWN PRETTY WELL.

BUT ONE THING THAT WE WANT TO INCORPORATE IS GOING FORWARD AND WE'LL BEGIN THAT THIS YEAR, IF THAT'S, IF IT'S SO PASSED, UM, THAT ALL RELATIVE TAXES AND FEES WILL NEED TO BE PAID BEFORE THE ALCOHOL LICENSE IS ISSUED.

SO BUSINESS LICENSE, ANY EXCISE TAXES, ANY, UM, PROPERTY TAXES, ANY OF THAT THAT THE CITY COLLECTS AND ARE REQUIRED, WE'LL LOOK AT THOSE AS PART OF THE, UM, ALCOHOL LICENSE AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE PAID, WHICH WOULD BE AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO, UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS LICENSE CAN, BUSINESS LICENSE IS ONE THAT CAN TAKE OVER, UM, INTO APRIL, I BELIEVE IT IS BEFORE OTHER THINGS HAPPEN WITH, WITH FINES AND, AND SUCH LIKE THAT.

SO THAT WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T BE THE CASE IF YOU HAVE AN ALCOHOL LICENSE, YOU WOULD, EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE TO BE, UH, PAID UP AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WHICH IS WHEN ALL THE LICENSES EXPIRE OR ARE DUE ANYWAY.

SO,

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SOME PAY DISTRIBUTORS, SOME DISTRIBUTORS PAY THE EXCISE TAXES.

OTHER, UM, LOCAL ESTABLISHMENTS PAY THE EXCISE TAXES.

WE WEREN'T FOLLOWING STATE ORDINANCE AND OR STATE CODE AND WE DIDN'T REALLY REALIZE IT IN THE DAY OF THE MONTH THAT WE HAD BEEN REQUIRING SOME OF THESE EXCISE TAXES TO BE PAID.

SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS A, UM, BASICALLY 10 DAY GRACE PERIOD SO THAT WE DIDN'T CHANGE WHEN FOLKS NEEDED TO PAY US BECAUSE THEY KNEW OR SUPPOSEDLY KNEW WHEN THEY NEEDED TO PAY US EXCISE TAXES.

UM, SO IF THEY WERE DUE ON THE 10TH BY THE STATE, WE GAVE 'EM A 10 DAY GRACE PERIOD TO THE 20TH, WHICH IS WHERE WE WERE OPERATING ANYWAY.

OTHER EXCISE TAXES WERE DUE ON THE 20TH BY THE STATE, SO WE LEFT THAT AT THE 20TH.

SO JUST LINING EVERYTHING UP TO BE THE SAME.

UM, WE'RE ALSO WANT TO INCLUDE THAT ANY, ALL ESTABLISHMENTS MUST REPORT THEIR SALES, UM, EVEN IF IT'S ZERO.

SO WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO GET THOSE REPORTS FROM EVERYBODY.

AND WE DID, UH, CLARIFY THAT EXCISE TAXES ARE, UM, DO APPLY TO PRIVATE HUBS, DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS, DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS.

UM, WE FELT LIKE, I THINK IT WAS LAST MONTH WE HAD A DISTANCE REQUIREMENT VARIANCE HERE.

UM, FOR, FOR THE, UM, STORE OUT IN FRONT HERE.

UM, SO WE'RE, THIS ONE'S UP FOR DISCUSSION.

WE FELT LIKE IT, IT, UH, WANTED TO BE, UM, REMOVED THE, ITS REQUIREMENTS FOR PACKAGE SALES IN THE DOWNTOWN THAT DID NOT INCLUDE LIQUOR.

SO THIS IS PACKAGE SALES FOR BEER AND WINE ONLY.

ONLY.

AND FOR, NOT FOR, UM, PEOPLE THAT HAVE ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION LICENSES.

SO LIKE THE LITTLE STORE THAT WE HAD, IF WE GET ANOTHER LITTLE GIFT SHOP, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE COULD ALLOW THEM.

WE REDUCE THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS TO 30 FEET FROM ANY OF THE, UM, SURROUNDING ISSUES, CHURCHES, RESIDENCES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE STATE REQUIRES THAT YOU HAVE A DISTANCE.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE DISTANCE, UM, ISSUE OR DISTANCE IN YOUR CODE, THEN YOU HAVE TO GO WITH THE STATE CODE, WHICH IS MUCH LARGER.

SO WE WOULD ELIMINATE A LOT MORE AND NOT HAVE THE ABILITY FOR A VARIANCE.

UM, THE RENEWAL PROCESS, WE REVAMPED COMPLETELY THE RENEWAL PROCESS.

SOME OF IT I'VE ALREADY TOUCHED ON.

WE'VE GOT, UM, BACKGROUND CHECKS EVERY TWO YEARS WE'RE, WE, UM, HAVE ALREADY ADDED IN AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, UM, OF THE ALCOHOL CODE IN THE LICENSE APPLICATION.

CLARIFIED THAT RENEWALS, UM, ARE DUE DECEMBER 31ST, BUT THERE IS A LATE PENALTY IF YOU FILE AFTER NOVEMBER 15TH.

UH, TRANSFER LICENSE.

MR UH, LET ME INTERRUPT REAL.

HOW MANY MORE OF THESE SLIDES DO YOU HAVE, BRETT? UH, TWO MORE.

WE NEED TO ENGAGE IN A DIALOGUE WITH THE COUNCIL ON SOME OF THESE TOPICS AS OPPOSED TO JUST TALKING AT THEM BEFORE WE GET TOO MUCH FURTHER ALONG.

I, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION IF WE COULD GET SOME I HAVE TWO MORE.

ALRIGHT.

GO AHEAD AND GET THROUGH THOSE.

BUT THEN LET'S, LET'S, UH, LET'S START A DIALOGUE.

IN A GROSS MANNER TO RELATE OVER TO 70%.

TRANSFER LICENSE.

I PRETTY WELL WENT OVER THAT.

THAT'S THE WHOLE CORPORATE THING AND, AND, UM, THAT, UM, LOCATIONS WERE PROHIBITED.

UH, 4, 4 47 WERE UPDATING THE, UH, DEFINITION OF A KITCHEN THAT CAME UP IN A PRIOR CASE THAT THAT CITY COUNCIL SAW.

SO WE'RE UPDATING THAT HOURS OF SALES DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.

WE'RE PROPOSING, UM, THAT THE HOURS OF SALES GO FROM TWO TO 1:00 AM HOTELS AND MOTELS.

UM, JUST CLARIFYING THAT.

WE'VE ALSO HAD SOME, UM, REQUESTS FOR IN ROOM SERVICE, IN ROOM ALCOHOL SERVICE.

AND WE ALSO DON'T HAVE A GOOD WAY OF, UM, ESTABLISHING THE, THE, UM, SERVICE AT THE GIFT SHOP INSIDE THE LOBBY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, SO WE, WE'VE ESTABLISHED THAT.

UM, AND THEN THE INDOOR RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, WE ARE PROPOSING REMOVING THE 50 50, UM, ALCOHOL SALES FOR THEM BECAUSE MOST OF THEIR THINGS ARE NOT ALCOHOL BASED.

MOST OF THEIRS ARE, ARE OTHER BASED IN GIVING THEM A COMBINATION OF, OF TICKET SALES AND, UH, FOOD SALES

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AND THEN THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO TILL THE 50 50.

AND THEN IF THERE'S TIME, THE REALLY BIG SIDE OF THIS, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WILL, UM, DISCUSS PROCEDURES THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED, UM, FOR, UM, REVOCATION AND SUSPENSIONS AND THE PROCESSES TO GET TO THOSE, WHICH IS A, A PRETTY LENGTHY LITTLE, LITTLE BIT, BUT WE FELT LIKE THAT CAME OUT OF ONE OF OUR OTHER HEARINGS HERE, UM, WITH ANOTHER RESTAURANT.

SO WE'VE, WE'VE WORKED ON THOSE AND GOT THAT IN, SO WE'RE READY TO, READY TO TALK THROUGH THOSE.

DID YOU WANNA START WITH YEAH, YEAH.

LEMME SEE IF I CAN SET THE STAGE HERE REAL QUICK.

SO WE, UH, SO THIS CAN MAKE SOME SENSE.

UM, WHAT WE TRIED TO DO HERE WITH THIS PRESENTATION WAS TO LAY OUT THE THINGS THAT ARE RELATIVELY, I THINK, EASY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION AND KIND OF GO THROUGH THOSE TO GET AS MUCH OUT OF THE WAY AS WE COULD AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS EASY, SO LET'S, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE THINKING WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL'S THINKING WITH THESE.

AND THEN WE GET TO THESE FOUR TOPICS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT MEATIER.

UM, AND A COUPLE OF 'EM HAVE GOT SOME REAL MEAT ON THE BOAT.

SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND TO YOU ALL TONIGHT, AND THIS IS WHAT I'VE SORT OF PREPPED OUR STEP FOR, IF YOU ALL ARE GOOD WITH IT, IS THAT WE WOULD WORK THROUGH THESE EASY TO GET THROUGH ITEMS AND MAYBE PICK OFF ONE OF THE METEOR ITEMS AND, AND TALK THROUGH IT.

LET THE CITY ATTORNEY LEAD THAT DISCUSSION.

AND THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT ALL THAT I THINK ANY OF US ARE GONNA WANNA FOCUS IN ON THIS PARTICULAR CODE TONIGHT.

AND THIS WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY PERFECT TO COME BACK AT A COUPLE OF CONSECUTIVE WORK SESSIONS SO WE DON'T JUST SIT HERE AND, AND, UH, GLAZE OVER ON THE ALCOHOL CODE BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK TRYING TO WORK IT INTO ONE WORK SESSION.

IT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA WORK.

SO, YEP, I'LL, I'LL THROW THAT OUT THERE TO SAY THAT THAT WOULD BE, UH, THAT WOULD BE REALLY SUCCESS FOR US TONIGHT AND REALLY HELPFUL IF WE COULD GET THAT DIRECTION, IF WE COULD GO BACK THROUGH THESE THAT, THAT BRETT'S PRESENTED AND MAKE SURE THAT WHAT HE'S PRESENTED, THERE'S NOT ANY CONTRA POSITIONS TO, AND THEN, UH, AND THEN REALLY TAKE OFF ONE OF THOSE METEOR ONES AND WE'LL LET, UH, THE CITY ATTORNEY WORK THROUGH THAT.

AND IF Y'ALL ARE GOOD WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE THAT AWAY FOR TONIGHT AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK WHEN WE NEED TO TALK, TALK SOME MORE.

SO, SO HOW DO WE PROCEED HERE? SO I GUESS WHAT, SO YEAH, SO LET'S, UH, LET'S JUST START HERE WITH THESE, UH, WITH THE FIRST SLIDE.

LET'S, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE, UH, BRETT, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT NEW DEFINITIONS, UM, REALLY THE BIGGEST ONE I THINK IN ALL OF WHAT WAS PRESENTED, AND THIS IS JUST TO AFFIRM BECAUSE IT'S THE MOST, UM, DEPARTURE FROM WHERE WE HAVE IT WITH RESPECT TO THE RESTAURANTS, UM, IS THE DEPARTURE FROM TWO O'CLOCK SERVICE TO ONE O'CLOCK.

SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO THROW THAT OUT THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT I'M STARTING TO SEE HEADS GO ALL THE SAME DIRECTION.

AND, UH, OKAY.

SO THAT'S, UH, THAT WAS ONE, UM, THAT, THAT IS FOR SERVICE, NOT HOURS OF OPERATION.

UH, YOU'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE WRITTEN IT THEN THAT'S A VERY DIFFERENT THING.

SO I WANNA MAKE SURE WE ANSWER THIS CORRECTLY.

YES, SIR.

YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS SERVICE WAS WHAT IT WAS MEANT FOR HOURS COULD OPERATE.

YOU JUST CAN'T SERVE THAT.

YES SIR.

THAT'S IMPORTANT.

DEFINITELY.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR.

UM, CHRIS, IF I MAY, MAY I ADD ONE PLEASE? ONE OTHER ITEM.

UM, I THINK ANOTHER ONE OF THE, UH, BIGGEST CHANGES IN THIS SECTION, UM, THAT WE WOULD KIND OF LIKE SOME INPUT ON AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD BE AMENABLE TO REQUIRING ALL OF OUR LICENSEE APPLICANTS OR THOSE WHO WOULD REQUIRE A BACKGROUND CHECK TO BE BACKGROUND CHECKED EVERY OTHER YEAR AS PART OF THE RENEWAL PROCESS.

BUT IF THERE IS ANY, UH, COMMENT FROM COUNCIL, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR ABOUT THAT.

UM, HERE, DOES ANYONE ON COUNCIL HAVE AN OBJECTION OR AN OPINION? COUNCILMAN BRADY? UH, JUST, JUST CURIOUS AND THIS IS MORE OF A, A PROCESS THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE, WHAT WOULD BE AN ITEM IN THE BACKGROUND THAT WILL POP UP THAT WOULD, YOU'D IMMEDIATELY DECLINE THE, UH, THE LICENSE? SO THAT KIND OF GOES INTO THIS DEFINITION OF MORAL TURPITUDE THAT WE'VE SINCE CORRECTED.

UM, SO USUALLY ANY FELONIOUS CRIMES, UM, THOSE THAT ARE INVOLVING ANY KIND OF DECEIT OR UNTRUTHFULNESS.

UM, WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED ACTS INVOLVING, UM, DRUGS OR ALCOHOL, NO TRAFFIC OFFENSES UNLESS IT WAS RELATED TO DRUGS OR ALCOHOL.

UM, SO THOSE WOULD BE THE TYPES OF OFFENSES.

WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS MAYBE IN A DIFFERENT JURISDICTION.

UM, THAT WOULD BE, I WAS JUST THINKING INNOCENT THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE'S CYBER CRIME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT GOES AFTER CREDIT AND YOU SEE ALL THESE KIND OF THINGS AND DO YOU HAVE A CURE PERIOD IN THERE AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

THAT'S WHERE I WAS KIND OF GOING, BUT ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH.

AND THERE IS A TIMEFRAME, I MEAN WE'RE NOT GOING BACK TO WHEN YOU WERE A TEENAGER BY ANY MEANS.

UM, WON'T BE THE LAST TWO YEARS .

OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

I REMEMBER NOW.

UM, , , .

UM, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE TAKE SUPER SERIOUSLY AND WE WORK ANYTIME

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'CAUSE THESE ARE, UM, NATIONAL BACKGROUND CHECKS, NOT JUST A GEORGIA STATE CHECK.

UM, SO IF IT MAYBE IS ENTITLED SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE A FELONY IN KANSAS BUT IS A MISDEMEANOR HERE, WE DO LOOK AT THOSE.

UM, OR EVEN, UM, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF INTERNATIONAL APPLICANTS AS WELL.

UM, SO WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY LOOK AT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT, UM, MISAPPLYING AND THEY'RE FULLY ADJUDICATED CASES AT THAT POINT.

WE DON'T, WE, WE CAN'T USE ANYTHING THAT'S HASN'T BEEN FULLY ADJUDICATED.

SO IF IT'S STILL IN SOME SORT OF PROCESS, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T USE THAT, WHICH IS PART OF WHY THE EVERY OTHER YEAR OR AT SOME INTERVAL AFTER THE INITIAL MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THERE COULD BE THINGS ON THE INITIAL THAT AREN'T ADJUDICATED YET, BUT WOULD THROW 'EM OUT IF IT WERE, AND THEY WERE A CONVICTION.

COUNCILMAN REEVES.

SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF SOMEBODY APPLIES FOR A LICENSE THEN THEY WOULD, I'M ASSUMING GIVE THAT PERMISSION.

YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THEM EVERY TWO YEARS THAT THE PERMISSION WOULD BE GRANTED FOR A BACKGROUND CHECK.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE TO DO THAT.

SO IT WOULD BE A PART OF THE RENEWAL PROCESS RENEWAL.

AND SO WE WOULD AMEND OUR APPLICATION TO REQUIRE THEM TO FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK THAT WOULD THEN REQUIRE THEM TO GO TO OUR THIRD PARTY VENDOR TO BE FINGERPRINTED BECAUSE IT IS A NATIONAL CHECK.

DO YOU, DOES THE CITY HAVE SOME KIND OF PARTICULAR THING THAT SENDS OUT AND SAYS, HEY, BY THE WAY, THIS IS DUE? OR DO YOU EXPECT EVERYBODY TO KNOW IT WHEN THEY NEED TO RENEW? YES, WE SEND OUT TONS OF NOTICES.

UM, WE ACTUALLY JUST REVAMPED OUR PROGRAM THIS LAST RENEWAL SEASON IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR FINANCE TEAM.

SO IT'S A JOINT EFFORT, UH, BETWEEN FINANCE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT.

AND THEN SOMETIMES THE CLERK INCLUDES NOTICES AS WELL.

UM, BUT YES, WE DO INCLUDE MULTIPLE REMINDERS, BOTH MAIL AND THROUGH EMAIL.

UM, AND THEN SOMETIMES EVEN A PHONE CALL, UM, IF IT'S A BUSINESS THAT, OR ESTABLISHMENT THAT WE WORK WITH REGULARLY.

UM, AND THIS WON'T BE AN ADDITIONAL, LIKE EXTRA BURDEN LIKE ON OUR STAFF.

UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS WILL BE A LOT FOR OUR STAFF TO DO.

IT'S, IT IS GONNA BE AN EXTRA BURDEN ON OUR STAFF, BUT WE FEEL LIKE IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT.

IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH.

IT'S GOOD DOING FRONT END WORK YEAH.

RATHER THAN DOING IT ON THE BACK END.

AND IT'S EASIER TO, EASIER TO START IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAN, THAN TO CHASE SOMEBODY DOWN AND, AND TRY TO REVOKE THEIR LICENSE AFTER SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED.

SO.

AND TO BRETT'S POINT, THEY DO SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR THE MASSAGE AND SPA PERMITS AS WELL.

AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I THINK THEY ALTERNATED, WHICH WOULD BE BACKGROUND YEARS OR ARE THEY GONNA BE ON THE SAME TIMELINE? THE MASSAGE SPA'S GONNA BE EVERY YEAR.

EVERY YEAR.

TO PURCHASE ALCOHOL FROM A VENDOR.

SO, BUT THERE'S NOT AS MANY AS THOSE.

UM, BUT COUNCILMAN HEIGHTS WITH RESPECT TO THE APPLICATIONS AND RENEWALS, IS IT, IS IT WRITTEN INTO THIS THAT, UH, A MATERIAL MISREPRESENTATION IS SUFFICIENT? IT IS.

AND, AND THAT'S IN THE CODE NOW AS WELL.

GOOD.

UM, SO I THINK THAT WAS, UM, A BIG QUESTION THAT WE KIND OF WANTED SOME DIRECTION FROM.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A GOOD CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DRAFTING THE CODE THAT WAY.

UM, ANOTHER UM, SECTION THAT I WANTED TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE HAD SOME COUNCIL DIRECTION ON, UM, WAS, HANG ON ONE SECOND.

LEMME FLIP OVER TO OUR SLIDE SLIDE.

JOE, UM, WAS KIND OF EXPLAINING WHAT WE DO IN TERMS OF TRANSFERRING OF LICENSES.

SO IN THE CITY, UM, IT'S VERY COMMON.

WE HAVE ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION ESTABLISHMENTS LIKE A CHILI'S OR A LAZY DOG.

WE HAVE OUR PACKAGE ESTABLISHMENTS LIKE RED'S, AND THEN WE HAVE SUPERMARKETS LIKE PUBLIX, KROGER, ET CETERA, UH, DRUG CONVENIENCE STORES THAT THERE MAY BE AN ESTABLISHMENT THAT HAS EITHER MAYBE AN OA PARTIAL OWNER DIE OR MOVE OR IS NO LONGER ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUSINESS OR THEY SELL THE BUSINESS.

UM, AND THE WAY THAT OUR CODE IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, WHENEVER THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE OF THE LICENSE OR A PERSON INVOLVED WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT, THEY HAVE 45 DAYS, UM, TO REPORT THAT TO THE CITY AND APPLY FOR A NEW APPLICATION.

OR PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO SHARE OUR LICENSE ESTABLISHMENTS WITH THE STATE SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE STATE LICENSURE SO THAT THEY'RE ABLE

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WHAT WE HAVE SOMETIMES HAD OCCUR WITHIN THE CITY IS THAT WE HAVE AN ESTABLISHMENT THAT HAS EITHER SELF-REPORTED OR CODE, HAS FOUND OUT THAT THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE IN THE OWNERSHIP.

SO AT THAT POINT, OFTENTIMES INSTEAD OF IT BEING WITHIN THE 45 DAY PERIOD, SOMETIMES IT'S AT THE 60 PERIOD OR A FOUR MONTH PERIOD, OR IT'S NOT UNTIL RENEWAL SEASON THAT WE FIND OUT THAT THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE IN THE BUSINESS OWNERSHIP.

AND AT THAT TIME WE'VE DONE THE BEST WE CAN, UM, WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENTS OF FIGURING OUT, OKAY, DO WE CANCEL THEIR LICENSE AND REVOKE IT IMMEDIATELY OR DO WE JUST HAVE THEM GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT A NEW APPLICATION AND ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE SELLING? UM, OR DO WE MAKE THEM LOCK UP THEIR ALCOHOL NOW THAT IT'S BEEN PAST THE 45 DAY MARK, UM, UNTIL THEY CAN GET A NEW LICENSE.

AND SO CURRENTLY WE WANTED TO KIND OF GAUGE THE COUNCIL AND SEE IF YOU ALL MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN GRANTING MAYBE A SMALL TEMPORARY LICENSE IN THESE TYPES OF SITUATIONS, MAYBE FOR 30 DAYS OR SO THAT ONCE WE'VE LEARNED, OR AN ESTABLISHMENT HAS REPORTED, HEY, THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE IN MY BUSINESS STRUCTURE AND I NEED TO ADD THIS LICENSEE OR THIS PERSON, OR I'VE SOLD BUSINESS AND NOW I'M THE NEW OWNER.

DO WE WANNA ALLOW THEM TO HAVE A 30 DAY TEMPORARY LICENSE IN WHICH THEY ARE SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION, UM, THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH THE NOTICING REQUIREMENTS AND HAVE TIME TO BE FINGERPRINTED AND US REVIEW IT TO ISSUE A LICENSE? OR DO WE WANT TO SAY, NO, YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN IT IN WITHIN 45 DAYS OF X EVENT OCCURRING AND YOU NEED TO EITHER LOCK UP YOUR ALCOHOL OR REMOVE IT FROM THE PREMISES.

UM, AND SO WE KIND OF WANTED TO GAUGE, UM, THE COUNCIL'S OPINION.

UM, THE MOST COMMONPLACE THAT WE SEE, THIS IS WITHIN CONVENIENCE STORES, GAS STATIONS, THEY OFTENTIMES, UM, CHANGE HANDS OFTEN.

UM, AND WE'VE SEEN IT IN A COUPLE OF SMALLER DINING ESTABLISHMENTS.

UM, BUT JUST KIND OF WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ESTABLISHMENTS WE WOULD HAVE THAT WE'D PROVOKING A LICENSE IMMEDIATELY AND YOU'D GO TO FILL UP YOUR CAR AND GRAB A SIX PACK AND ALL OF THE ALCOHOL WOULD BE LOCKED UP.

BUT JUST KIND OF WANTED TO PAINT THAT PICTURE FOR YOU ALL, UM, AND KIND OF GET SOME FEEDBACK.

YEAH, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A TIME, UM, THING THERE TOO.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WENT TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE, UM, OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT THAT REALLY SHORTENED THAT LENGTH OF TIME, THERE'S STILL, EVEN IF ALL THE STARS ALIGNED AND ALL THE GODS BLESSED IT QUICKLY, UM, WE HAVE A CODE REQUIREMENT OF 14 DAYS THAT IT'S ADVERTISED.

SO IT'S A MINIMUM GONNA BE 15 DAYS, UM, THAT THE AB THE ESTABLISHMENT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SERVE, UM, OR SELL ANY ALCOHOL, NOT SERVE, SELL.

UM, SO WE, WE HAVE HAD SOME, UM, AND AS LAUREN SAID, IT'S, IT'S MOSTLY THE CONVENIENCE STORES.

UM, I THINK THERE'S, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S MALICIOUS, BUT, BUT IT, IT HAPPENS PRETTY REGULARLY.

AIR YEAH.

SO YOU SAID, IS IT MALICIOUS? SO MY THOUGHT IS NOT TO, INSTEAD OF HAVING A NEW TEMPORARY APPLICATION PROCESS APPROVAL 30 DAYS, COULD YOU JUST NOW PUT 'EM ON THE CLOCK FROM THE TIME THAT WE FIND OUT ABOUT IT OR THAT THEY NOTIFY US AND SAY, OKAY, WE'VE GOT X AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET THIS THING DONE AND LEAVE IT IN PLACE AS IT IS.

I'M NOT TRYING TO PUNISH THESE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY MOST OF 'EM ARE OUT, THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE TO BEAT THE SYSTEM.

THEY JUST DON'T KNOW.

YEP.

AND I'M NOT GONNA EXCUSE IT.

OR IF YOU CATCH SOMEBODY TRYING TO BEAT THE SYSTEM WITH IT, I, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S, IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF EFFORT AND A LOT OF WORK FOR SOMETHING THAT WE COULD JUST SAY, HEY, UH, IT'S DULY NOTED HERE ON JULY 20TH, 2026 THAT THE, EITHER THEY INFORMED US OR WE INFORMED THEM THERE WAS AN ISSUE AND NEEDED TO CHANGE, THEN YOU JUST PUT A CLOCK ON IT, YOU GOT 30 DAYS TO CHANGE IT, YOU GOT 14 DAYS TO CHANGE IT, YOU GOT 45.

WHATEVER IT IS YOU NEED TO DO AND NOT ADD A WHOLE NOTHER STEP OR PROCESS IF I'M HEARING IT RIGHT, AND I MAY NOT BE HEARING IT RIGHT, WHERE YOU HAVE TO COME IN AND GET, YOU KNOW, FILL OUT YOUR PAPERWORK, BRING US YOUR CHECK, YOUR TEMPORARY 30 DAYS, YOU KNOW, HELL THAT 30 DAYS IS HALF UP BY THE TIME HE CAN GET ALL THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER, AND, AND WE'RE REALLY KIND OF JUST BURDENING OURSELVES MORE THAN WE ARE THEM AND WE'RE NOT LOSING REVENUE ON IT.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, AN ESTABLISHMENT THAT'S LICENSED, YOU KNOW, EXPIRED BY DEFINITION, BUT NOT NECESSARILY BY TIME AND DATE, UM, IS, IS GONNA AFFECT ANYTHING BUT US.

I THINK WE COULD DEFINITELY DO THAT AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE STATE REQUIREMENTS AND WE WOULD NEED TO MAYBE ALLOW ESSENTIALLY ALLOWING THEM TO CONTINUE OPERATING UNDER THE OLD, OLD LICENSE.

I THINK MOLLY AND I COULD LOOK INTO THAT.

UM, SO JUST SO I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR POINT, JUST CONTINUE, ESSENTIALLY CONTINUING ON THE LICENSE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ISSUED TO ALLOW THEM 30 DAYS TO PERFECT A NEW APPLICATION.

START THE CLOCK.

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AND THEN NO FEE.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROPOSING NO FEE FOR A TEMPORARY, I'M GONNA FEE THE FEE.

YOU'RE JUST, YOU'RE JUST, YOU'RE PENALIZING, RIGHT? THEY'RE ALREADY, THEY'RE CONFUSED AND NOT HAPPY AND, YOU KNOW, BURDENED WITH WHATEVER.

AND OH, BY THE WAY, OWES 1200 BUCKS 'CAUSE YOU DIDN'T TELL US IT'S YOUR PARTNER MOVED.

NO, I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

THIS IS GREAT FEEDBACK.

SO, UM, WAS, I THINK THERE WAS MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE, MR. MAY, COUNCILMAN BRADY I BELIEVE HAD A QUESTION.

YEAH, I, I ABSOLUTELY RESONATE WITH MAYOR PRO WAS SAYING WITH THE 30 DAYS, I THINK THE ONLY, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE I WOULD SAY IS I'M A LITTLE BIT MORE HOW DO YOU CHANGE BEHAVIORS? THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF PENALTY FEE, RIGHT? I MEAN, IF I'M LATE ON A LIBRARY BOOK, I'M PAYING A FEE.

IF I SPEED, I'M PAYING A FEE, RIGHT? THAT'S HOW YOU CHANGE BEHAVIORS IN A WAY.

YOU'RE TALKING TRANSACTIONAL OF BUSINESSES WHERE A LAWYER SHOULD BE INVOLVED, RIGHT? THESE THINGS SHOULD BE COMPLIANT.

THEY, THEY HAVE REQUIREMENTS, THEY HAVE LICENSES.

YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN COMPLIANCE? AND I AGREE WITH, YOU KNOW, DON'T BE TOO PUNITIVE, RIGHT? DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT FEE WOULD BE.

BUT I THINK HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A FEE THERE DOES ADD, LIKE, TO MAINTAIN THE BEHAVIOR, RIGHT? AND THAT'S JUST HOW WE JUST KIND OF ADD.

AND I MEAN, NOT TOO MUCH MAN, 200 BUCKS, $250.

WE'RE COLLECTING SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S OUR STAFF POTENTIALLY.

WE COULD, WE COULD, OH, I WOULD GIVE, CAN I PIGGYBACK THAT REAL QUICK? LET'S SAY WE 30 DAYS, THERE'S A FEE IF THEY GO PAST 30 DAYS, OKAY.

WOULD BE ONE SUGGESTION VERSUS, UH, I DON'T LIKE THIS.

GOTCHA.

YOU KNOW, ON THIS SCENARIO, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT, THESE THINGS HAPPEN QUICK, RIGHT? BUSINESSES DO CHANGE HANDS.

THERE'S OVERLAPPING TIME ON WHEN IT DOES, WHO REALLY TAKES OVER WHEN, THOSE SORT OF THINGS.

SO, UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE IT SMOOTHED OUT.

GET A TIME PERIOD.

IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT A FEE, GIVE 'EM A BOW, GET IT, AVOID IT OR MINIMAL UP FRONT.

IF THEY GO OVER 30 DAYS, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE.

BUT SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES DO.

COUNCILMAN REEVES, THE ONLY PROBLEM THAT I COULD SEE IS IF SOMEBODY DID ACTUALLY SELL THEIR BUSINESS AND THEY ACTUALLY DON'T OWN IT ANYMORE AND THE LICENSES IN THEIR NAME AND THE NEW PERSON IN THAT CASE I THINK WOULD HAVE TO GET A, A TEMPORARY OR PUT IN THEIR APPLICATION.

DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.

UM, I MEAN, BECAUSE THAT SEEMS LIKE 'CAUSE BECAUSE THEN THEY'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE ANYMORE, RIGHT.

AND ALCOHOL BEING SOLD AND THEY'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE ANYMORE.

AND I THINK, UM, THERE WAS A SECTION IN OUR CODE AT ONE TIME THAT TALKED ABOUT SURRENDERING A LICENSE, UM, IN WHICH IF THERE WAS AN OWNER WHO REALLY DID FEEL THAT WAY, THEY WOULD PROBABLY MAYBE LOOK INTO THAT AND ACTUALLY COME TO THE CITY AND SAY, HEY, I'M TURNING MY LICENSE BACK INTO YOU, MOLLY.

AND I MIGHT BE ABLE TO LOOK AT A SURRENDERING PROVISION IN THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS.

UM, OTHERWISE IT MIGHT BE INCLUDED IN SOME SALE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES OR SOMETHING.

BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

UM, THE BIGGEST REASON WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION IS THE WAY THE CODE IS WRITTEN NOW.

WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO.

WE, SO WE KIND OF JUST NEEDED SOME DIRECTION OF WHAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

UM, AND I THINK THE FINAL, UM, SECTION, 'CAUSE I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO POSSIBLY SAVE THE, UM, BIG DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER DAY WOULD JUST BE TO HEAR FROM THE COUNCIL IF THERE WAS ANY OBJECTION TO EXPANDING OUR HOTEL MOTEL DEFINITION TO INCLUDE IN ROOM SERVICE OF ALCOHOL, MEANING A MINI BAR OR THE DELIVERY OF ALCOHOL TO A HOTEL ROOM, WHICH OUR CODE DOES NOT CURRENTLY ALLOW COUNCIL ONE RAISE.

YEAH, I DEFINITELY THINK SHE, WE SHOULD ALLOW THAT.

LIKE YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOUR FLIGHT GETS IN LATE, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YEAH, DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY SIGN ME UP ON THAT ONE.

WONDERFUL.

UM, AND I THINK I'VE GOT ONE MORE.

OH, CHRIS HAS ONE MORE.

SERVING FULLY PREPARED MEALS.

I'VE GOT ONE MORE THAT WE NEED TO HEAR ABOUT TONIGHT AND THEN WE CAN, UH, MOVE ON, UH, TO THE NEXT SESSION TOGETHER.

BUT I'D REALLY LOVE TO HEAR ABOUT KITCHENS AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY NEED TO BE OPEN AT ALL HOURS THAT THINGS ARE SERVED OR NOT.

AND I JUST, I'M GONNA LET THE CITY ATTORNEY FURTHER ELABORATE ON THAT.

BUT SHE REALLY WANTS TO HEAR ABOUT KITCHENS TONIGHT AND SO DO I.

SO, UH, THANK YOU CHRIS.

UH, SO WHEN WE HAVE HAD SOME RECENT ISSUES WITH ALCOHOL SERVICE IN THE CITY, UM, THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE, IN THE CODE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE KITCHEN.

AND UM, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT, WHAT IT, IT, IT HAS MINIMUMS LIKE A FOUR COMPARTMENT SINK, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, AND IT JUST SAYS PREPARED TO SERVE FOOD EVERY HOUR, THEY ARE OPEN.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD ADD SOME CLARITY AS TO WHAT THAT MEANS.

THERE'S A BIT OF A PLACEHOLDER IN THIS DRAFT BECAUSE I HAD ALREADY HEARD SOME MIXED FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL AND WHAT WE'D HEARD AT THOSE MEETINGS AS TO WHAT MIGHT BE INTENDED AND DIDN'T WANT TO.

I MEAN, HONESTLY, WHAT'S IN HERE IS, IS ALL THE WAY FORWARD OR INTENDING TO BE THOUGH IT STILL PROBABLY NEEDS TWEAKING, SAYING THAT IT HAS TO BE FULLY OPERATIONAL AND STAFFED,

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I THINK WHAT I SAID, THE KITCHEN SHALL BE FULLY OPERATIONAL AND STAFFED OFFERING PREPARED MEALS FOR SALE AT ALL TIMES WHEN THE ESTABLISHMENT IS SERVING ALCOHOL.

AT OUR MOST RECENT HEARING, I THINK COUNCILMAN HYPES THROUGHOUT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEC HE DIDN'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT POPCORN OR NUTS WOULD BE SUFFICIENT.

UM, AND SO I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE RESTAURANTS DOING, THE EATING ESTABLISHMENTS DOING FROM AN ALCOHOL SERVICE STANDPOINT.

UM, SOME OF YOU MAY NOT THINK THAT IT NEEDS TO BE FULLY STAFFED AND HAVING DESSERTS OR RED TO HEAT APPETIZERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AS LONG AS IT MET HEALTH STANDARDS WOULD BE SUFFICIENT.

AND SO I JUST KIND OF WANNA HEAR WHERE THE DIRECTION IS AND THEN I'LL TAKE A STAB AT ACTUALLY REALLY NAILING DOWN WHAT THE INTENT OF THE COUNCIL IS.

COUNCILMAN HEIGHTS.

YEAH, I I UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE, THE PLACEHOLDER LANGUAGE FOR ME DEFINITELY DOES NOT GET THERE.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL WHO CAME ON THE PRIOR ISSUE WOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, GET THROUGH THAT.

YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF FULLY OPERATIONAL, I DID A QUICK LOOK HERE.

FULLY OPERATIONAL MEANS, UH, CAPABLE OF OPERATING.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, IF THE INTENTION IS THAT IT IS OPERATING AT THAT TIME, LET'S JUST MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TIGHTEN UP THE LANGUAGE TO SAY WHAT WE MEAN AND MEAN WHAT WE SAY.

SO THAT, THAT'S THE THE PRIMARY THING.

I KNOW WHERE WE WANTED TO GO.

I JUST DON'T THINK THAT GETS US THERE WITH YOUR PLACEHOLDER.

I THINK THE ONLY COUNTER TO THAT THAT I WOULD HAVE IS WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE SAID IT, IF IT IS OPERATIONAL OR SOME OTHER WORD, WE'LL TAKE OPERATION OUT OF IT.

THEY CAN'T SERVE FOOD IF NOBODY ORDERS THE FOOD.

AND SO I THINK THE POTENTIAL TO BE ABLE TO SERVE FOOD IS WHAT ULTIMATELY WE'RE TRYING TO CONTROL AS A CITY.

I SAY WE, YOU, UM, JUST FROM A STANDPOINT OF IF, IF WE CAN'T REQUIRE THEM TO SERVE FOOD, WE CAN REQUIRE THEM TO BE READY TO SERVE FOOD.

I JUST, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU WANT, DO YOU WANT THE STOVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, AVAILABLE LIKE THAT MEALS THAT REQUIRE THE STOVE HAVE TO BE ORDERED, OFFERED FOR SALE MEALS THAT REQUIRE THE OVEN HAVE TO BE OFFERED FOR SALE, OR YOU FIND WITH THE REFRIGERATOR AND A MICROWAVE BEING ALL THAT THEY HAVE TO USE TO OFFER MEALS FOR SALE.

I KNOW THAT'S GETTING REALLY INTO THE WEEDS ON IT, BUT IF WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE VULNERABLE, I JUST KIND OF WANNA HEAR YOUR INTENT AND THEN I WILL PROBABLY TRY AND MAKE IT TO WHERE IT IS NOT SO WORDY AND AWKWARD IN THE ACTUAL CODE.

I, I LIKE THE INTENT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE WORDED THE WAY WE INTEND TO JUST YET.

I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT.

UM, BECAUSE OF SOME, I MEAN, THIS IS, THE KITCHEN SHALL BE FULLY CAPABLE OF OPERATING AND STAFFED.

SO THERE'S A PERSON THERE AND IT'S CAPABLE OF BEING USED AND THE MEALS ARE STILL PREPARED AT SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING AND PUTTING THE REFRIGERATOR AND WE'RE RIGHT BACK WHERE WE WERE BEFORE.

AND SO, UH, I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE MAGIC LANGUAGE IS, BUT UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE WORDING IN IT RIGHT NOW ISN'T IDEAL.

I JUST DON'T KNOW.

I WANNA KNOW WHAT YOUR INTENT IS.

UH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR INTENT IS FOR THE ENTIRE KITCHEN TO BE REQUIRED TO BE USED TO SERVE A MEAL AT THE TIMES ALCOHOL IS SERVED.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, I WILL TAKE OUT THE FULLY OPERATIONAL LANGUAGE AND MAKE THAT BETTER REFLECT THE INTENT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE WANTING AT THIS POINT.

MAY I APPROACH HIM? ALL RIGHT.

I'VE GOT A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS.

I WAS, I'VE BEEN IN THE RESTAURANT MANAGEMENT POSITION, NOT JUST BUSTING TABLES.

I ACTUALLY GOT MOVED TO ATLANTA TO RUN A RESTAURANT, BUT, UM, I I THINK WE'RE GETTING TOO FAR OUT ON REQUIREMENTS INDIVIDUALLY ARE, WE'VE GOT TWO PARTS.

ONE, THERE'S, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT OF THE ESTABLISHMENTS TO MEET A FOOD TO ALCOHOL RATIO.

OKAY? UH, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR, UH, RESTAURANTS, ENTERTAINMENT, PLACES TO HAVE A RESTRICTED LATE NIGHT MENU.

AND IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR YOU TO ORDER SOMETHING THAT THEY SAID THE 80, 60, 'CAUSE IT'S ALL GONE.

I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO MEET MY, UH, KITCHEN LABOR NUMBERS IF I GOTTA KEEP A FRY GUY ON UNTIL TWO IN THE MORNING WHEN NOBODY'S ORDERING ANYTHING FROM THE FRY STATION.

SO I DON'T WANT TO TELL THEM WHAT THE DEFINITION OF FULLY FUNCTIONING KITCHEN IS BECAUSE THEN I GOTTA SEND A DETECTIVE IN THERE TO FIGURE OUT WHEN THERE'S NO GUY ON THE SALAD STATION.

SO LET'S, LET'S STICK TO THE INTENT HERE, WHICH IS WE, WE ARE URGING OUR ESTABLISHMENTS TO MEET THEIR FOOD TO LIQUOR RATIO.

WE'RE, WE'RE HELPING THEM BY ASKING THEM TO STAY AVAILABLE FOR FOOD TILL THEIR CLOSING HOURS, WHICH I THINK IS STILL A LITTLE OVERSTEPPING, BUT I'M NOT GONNA GO TO BAT ON THAT ONE.

I THINK FOOD IS AVAILABLE AND IF THEY, IF THEIR, IF THEIR PATRONS SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT, YOU KNOW, CHEESE STICKS AND CHICKEN FINGERS AND FRIES AND

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THAT'S ALL THAT'S AVAILABLE BETWEEN 10 AND 2:00 AM SO BE IT.

WHO ARE WE TO SAY THAT THEY CAN'T USE THAT AS THEIR FARE? THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT I THINK WE'RE OVERSTEPPING OUR BOUNDS.

I REALLY DO.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO, TO RING THAT INTO A DEFINITION THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DEFINE THEMSELVES AS TO WHAT FOOD BEING AVAILABLE MEANS.

I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GET IT HERE AND DESCRIBE PEANUTS AND POPCORN'S NOT FOOD.

'CAUSE AT MY HOUSE IT IS.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO GIVE EVERYBODY AN OUT OR A ROOM TO CHEAT.

I JUST WANT THIS THING TO BE DONE PROFESSIONALLY AND PUT IT IN THEIR HANDS.

AND IF THEY DON'T MEET THOSE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE'S FOOD NOT AVAILABLE.

BUT IF I GO IN AND THEY GOT TWO THINGS AVAILABLE, THEY'RE DOING THEIR JOB, THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY WERE TOLD TO DO, TO HAVE A KITCHEN AND MAKE FOOD AVAILABLE, WE ALREADY KNOW THEY HAVE A KITCHEN.

THEY GOT A, THEY GOT A LICENSE TO OPERATE AS A RESTAURANT.

I'M STARTING TO SAY THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER.

SO I'LL QUIT.

COUNCILMAN BRAVE, I'M CHUCKLING A LITTLE BIT.

'CAUSE YOU, YOU LAST ONE TOO, RIGHT? YOU, YOU STARTED IT OFF SAYING, WELL, I'M GONNA START OFF, I HAVE EXPERIENCE ABOUT IN MY PAST AND IT USED TO BE LIKE, YOU'RE RUNNING A RESTAURANT, RIGHT? 10 OR 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, YOU SHUT DOWN THE KITCHEN, RIGHT? 'CAUSE YOU GOT STAFF AND YOU GOT LABOR COSTS AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

THEY'RE CLEANING UP THE KITCHEN, PUTTING EVERYTHING AWAY.

THEY'RE OUT.

KEEP THE BAR OPEN FOR AN EXTRA, YOU KNOW, TILL ONE O'CLOCK, RIGHT? AND YOU KIND OF HAVE THAT, THAT GAP IN SERVICE AND THAT'S TO MANAGE WHAT YOUR LABOR IS.

AND YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME KIND OF THINGS LIKE A LATE NIGHT KIND OF MENU OR PEANUTS OR WHATEVER THAT'S OUT THERE.

BUT I DO AGREE WE HAVE A CATCHALL, RIGHT? WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT.

WE HAVE THAT LEGAL SALES AND ALCOHOL SALES AND THE FOOD SALES KINDA REQUIREMENT THAT'S IN PLACE.

THAT'S OUR CATCHALL, THAT'S OUR REQUIREMENT, RIGHT? GETTING INTO THE DETAILS IS NOW WE'RE JUST POLICING GRANULAR THINGS THAT, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE TO BE DETECTIVES OUT THERE TO KIND OF GO AFTER.

BUT I DO AS TALKING ABOUT THIS IS GIVE THEM KIND OF THE FREEDOMS THAT I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE.

BUT THEN THE OTHER PART, THE PUNITIVE PART IS WHEN THEY BREAK THE FOOD, ALCOHOL KIND OF PIECE, THAT'S WHEN WE GOTTA HOLD OUR LINE ON THOSE KIND OF PIECES.

BUT, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT A KITCHEN OPEN UNTIL ONE O'CLOCK.

I WOULDN'T WANNA DO THAT.

I'M OUT AS AN OPERATOR.

I WOULD NOT, AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE THOSE REQUIREMENTS IN THERE.

SO THAT'S MY ADDITION AND RESIGNATION OF WHAT YOU SAID.

COUNCILMAN REEVES, APPARENTLY WE'RE ONLY GONNA HAVE TO GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT OUR RESTAURANT BUSINESS.

I I MET MY HUSBAND WORKING IN A RESTAURANT, SO I KNOW ABOUT RESTAURANT LIFE AS WELL.

I WOULD VENTURE A GUESS THAT A LOT OF STUFF WE GET AT OUR RESTAURANTS HAS BEEN NUKED AND GIVEN TO US THAT WAY.

UM, I WOULD SAY KITCHEN IS OPEN AND PREPARED TO SERVE FOOD.

AND I, I AGREE IT'S THE, IT'S THE ENFORCEMENT OF WHAT'S IN HERE.

IT'S THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE RATIO THAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO ACTUALLY REQUIRING 'EM TO BE OPEN AND PREPARED TO SERVE FOOD IS FOR THEIR BENEFIT SO THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO STAY WITHIN THAT RATIO AT LEAST.

I THINK COUNCILMAN HYPES, MY WIFE OWNED A RESTAURANT A LONG TIME AGO, , SHE ACTUALLY HIRED TWO YOUNG BROTHERS, UH, NAMED FLIP AT THEIR PIZZA SHOP, UH, MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THERE, THERE'S A, THERE'S AN OVERLAY TO THIS AND THAT IS, UH, CONCEIVABLY A BUSINESS RESTAURANT COULD MAKE THEIR FOOD RATIO BY NOON, YOU KNOW, THREE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON, FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON.

AND I'M NOT SAYING WHERE I COME DOWN ON THIS, BUT I DO WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION.

IF SOMEBODY HAD, IF ALL WE CARE ABOUT IS 50 50, MAYBE THAT'S ALL WE CARE ABOUT.

BUT IF YOU MAKE YOUR 50 50 BY FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING, DO WE WANT TO HAVE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT THEN CAN JUST BE BARS FOR THE REST OF THE EVENING, YOU KNOW, FROM FIVE O'CLOCK ON? AND THAT CHANGES THE ATMOSPHERE OF OUR ENVIRONMENT.

SO WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LET'S CLOSE THE KITCHEN AT 11 AND HAVE SOME COLD FOOD OFF TO THE SIDE AND WE'LL, WE'LL MEET THIS STANDARD AND YOU KNOW, THEN WE'LL WIND DOWN THE EVENING.

BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE GOT, UH, YOU KNOW, RESTAURATEUR IN HERE AND AND PERSON WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON.

UH, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE ON A 50 50 TO SELL ENOUGH FOOD AT BREAKFAST, LUNCH AND EARLY DINNER TO THEN JUST CONVERT OVER TO A NIGHTCLUB.

BUT, BUT IF ALL WE'RE SAYING IS AS LONG AS WE MAKE 50 50 WE'RE HAPPY AND WE'VE GOT SOME HOR D'OEUVRES TO SERVE OFF TO THE SIDE, YOU KNOW, FOOD READY TO SERVE.

UM, I THINK THIS REQUIRES SOME, SOME EXPLORATION.

COME ON COUNCILMAN.

I HAVEN'T OWNED A RESTAURANT.

I HAVEN'T WORKED IN RESTAURANT.

I ENJOY 'EM.

I EAT AT 'EM.

UM,

[02:05:01]

LOOK, I MEAN, I THINK THE OVERALL IS TO GIVE Y'ALL A POLICY THAT Y'ALL CAN ENFORCE THAT THOSE THAT ARE INVESTING INSIDE OF THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA UNDERSTAND COMING IN.

SO THAT WE'RE ALL CLEARLY STATING WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

SO IT'S PRETTY APPARENT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.

AND SPEAKING OF A RESTAURANT, I'M HUNGRY, SO THAT'S ALL I GOTTA SAY.

YEAH, , THEY BETTER BE OPEN AND READY TO SERVE NO FOOD.

ALRIGHT.

I THINK WE'VE BEAT THE STEAD HORSE.

WE BEAT THE HORSE PRETTY THOROUGHLY.

YEAH, WE ABSOLUTELY GOT WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR TONIGHT.

THERE'S MORE CONVERSATION TO BE HAD, BUT THIS WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE.

UM, AS THE FIRST CONVERSATION ON THIS TOPIC.

AND MR. MAYOR, AFTER YOU GET THROUGH THE REST OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT REPORTS, WE DO HAVE A NEED FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TONIGHT.

I BELIEVE WE NEED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SO WE HAVE ONE MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENT.

I DO NOT SEE ANYONE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY.

SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

DO WE HAVE ANY REPORTS? NO REPORTS.

[10. EXECUTIVE SESSION (IF NECESSARY)]

WE DO.

MR. MAYOR.

UH, FOR THE PURPOSES OF TONIGHT, WE MAY NOT NEED THE SEC SECOND TOPIC, BUT I'M GONNA SAY THAT WE NEED FOR LITIGATION AND PERSONNEL.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO RECESS AND RECONVENE.

SO SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE VOTE YES.

AND IT IS UNANIMOUS.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECONVENE? SO MOVED.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM.

SECOND MIKE COUNCILMAN BRADY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

NOW DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION TO ADJOURN.

HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN BY COUNCILMAN BRADY WHO WAS THE SECOND.

EVERYBODY DOWN THERE , WE WILL GIVE IT TO DRISCOLL.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNING, PLEASE VOTE.