Jul 30, 2026 Special Called Planning Commission

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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GOOD EVENING. I CALL THIS JULY 30TH. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT. WE ALWAYS LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.

AND THERE IS A REASON I'VE ALREADY LOOKS THE WAY IT DOES BECAUSE OF YOUR INPUT INTO THE ZONING PROCESS.

SO WE APPRECIATE YOU JOINING US TONIGHT ON A HOT SUMMER DAY.

WE ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM TONIGHT TO CONSIDER, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS A RECOMMENDING BOARD.

WE ARE APPOINTED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE FACILITATE A PUBLIC PROCESS.

THE DECISIONS WE MAKE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL.

THEY MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. SO COME BACK. WHEN IS IT GOING TO COUNCIL? I BELIEVE THE 17TH. AUGUST 17TH. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU.

SO AUGUST 17TH, YOU CAN COME BACK AND TALK TO COUNCIL AND THEY WILL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION.

[3. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES]

WHAT IS THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD TO APPROVE? AND A SECOND.

I'LL. SECOND, A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. MOTION CARRIES.

[6. PUBLIC HEARING]

UPON RISING TO SPEAK, THE SPEAKER MUST IDENTIFY HIMSELF OR HERSELF AND FURNISH A HOME OR BUSINESS ADDRESS BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH ANY COMMENTS OR REMARKS.

THE COMMISSION WILL ALLOW THE PROPONENTS A TOTAL OF TEN MINUTES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF AN APPLICATION.

OPPONENTS WILL BE ALLOWED TEN MINUTES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

COMMENTS ARE ACCEPTED FIRST FROM THE APPLICANT, FOLLOWED BY PERSONS SPEAKING IN FAVOR AND THEN FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION.

UPON CONCLUSION OF ANY OPPOSING COMMENTS OR PRESENTATIONS, THE CHAIR WILL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO OFFER REBUTTAL IF ANY TIME IS REMAINING IN THE ALLOTTED TEN MINUTES AND THE CHAIR HAS DISCRETION TO ADD ADDITIONAL TIME IF NEEDED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO THE APPLICANT HAS WHAT IS THE PROCESS? WE'LL HAVE THE STAFF PRESENT THE APPLICATION.

THEY SENT US A REPORT WHICH IS IN FRONT OF US, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM.

WE'LL ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME AND MAKE A PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANT HAS TEN MINUTES, INCLUDING THOSE WHO ARE IN SUPPORT.

AND WE HAVE TO GIVE EQUAL TIME TO THE OPPOSITION.

SO I HAVE DISCRETION TO EXTEND THE TIME. AND WE'LL SEE WHERE WE ARE AT WHEN WE'RE HAD TEN MINUTES AND WE'LL PROCEED.

SO IT'S MICHAEL PRESENTING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS. THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A REQUEST FOR MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT, COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT AND REZONING TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF 195 FOR SALE TOWNHOMES ON 29.24 ACRES. EMPIRE COMMUNITIES PROPOSES TO DEVELOP THE WESTERN HALF OF THE PROPERTY, AND TOLL BROTHERS WOULD DEVELOP THE EASTERN HALF OF THE PROPERTY. A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT IS REQUESTED TO THE CAMDEN POND MASTER PLAN TO CHANGE THE USE OF THE PROPERTY FROM OFFICE TO RESIDENTIAL. A COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT IS REQUESTED FROM PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS OFFICE TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN A REZONING IS REQUESTED FROM CUP COMMUNITY UNIT PLAN TO R TEN M, WHICH IS A DWELLING FOR RENT AND FOR SALE RESIDENTIAL. THIS REQUEST THOUGH IS FOR FOR SALE TOWNHOMES AND I HAVE THE LOCATION MAP ON THE OVERHEAD.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3842 OLD MILTON PARKWAY.

THIS IS BEHIND THE INTERSECTION AT OLD MILTON PARKWAY AND COTTON CREEK.

ENTRY. COTTON CREEK ENTRY IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE WESTERN CURB CUT FOR BROOKSIDE PARKWAY.

THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL DENSITY WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE 6.6 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

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SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE CAMDEN POND AND STONE RIDGE SUBDIVISIONS WHICH ARE LOCATED TO THE EAST.

LET ME JUST GO BACK TO THE LOCATION MAP. SO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE LOCATED TO THE EAST OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

OF COURSE, THE BIG CREEK GREENWAY THE BIG CREEK AS WELL AS PRESTON RIDGE PARK ARE LOCATED TO THE NORTH OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

OLD MILTON COMMONS OFFICE CONDOS ARE LOCATED TO THE WEST.

AND THEN THE PORTMAN BROOKSIDE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED IS LOCATED JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS CAMDEN POND MASTER PLAN, ALSO CALLED BIG CREEK LANDING.

IT WAS APPROVED IN 1984 AND IT ALLOWED A MIX OF HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES.

STONE RIDGE AND CAMDEN POND CONDOMINIUMS WERE DEVELOPED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE MASTER PLAN.

AND THEN C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL USES WERE APPROVED.

WERE APPROVED FOR THE OUT PARCELS ALONG OLD MILTON PARKWAY.

AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY THAT YOU SEE HERE IN THE CROSS HATCHING IS APPROVED FOR ONLY USE AS OFFICE INSTITUTIONAL USES.

SHOW YOU THE APPLICANT'S SITE PLAN HERE. SO THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AGAIN IT'S A 29 ACRE PROPERTY 195 TOTAL FOR SALE TOWNHOMES.

AS I MENTIONED THE WESTERN HALF OF THE PROPERTY.

SO THIS IS COTTON CREEK ENTRY KIND OF BISECTS THE DEVELOPMENT IN HALF.

SO THE WESTERN HALF WOULD BE DEVELOPED BY EMPIRE THAT IS REFERENCED AS POD A ON THE SITE PLAN.

THERE ARE 105 FOR SALE TOWNHOMES ON THAT SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN 20 BUILDINGS, AND THEY'RE ALL THREE STORY.

OF THE 105, 33 ARE FRONT LOADED AND 72 ARE REAR LOADED.

THE EASTERN HALF OF THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE DEVELOPED BY TOLL BROTHERS THAT IS REPRESENTED AS POD B ON THE SITE PLAN.

THAT IS A TOTAL OF 90 FOR SALE TOWNHOMES AND 173 STORY BUILDINGS.

64 OF THOSE UNITS ARE REAR LOADED, WITH 26 BEING FRONT LOADED.

TOWNHOMES IN BOTH SIDES OF THE DEVELOPMENT WILL RANGE FROM 20 TO 24FT WIDE.

AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS ADJACENT TO THE BIG TO BIG CREEK.

AND SO THERE ARE STREAM BUFFERS AND FLOODPLAIN.

YOU SEE THAT IN THE CROSS HATCHING HERE. NONE OF THE DEVELOPMENT ENCROACHES ON THE FLOODPLAIN OR THE STREAM BUFFERS.

SO THEY ARE RESPECTING THOSE AREAS. ACCESS TO THE SITE WILL CONTINUE THROUGH COTTON CREEK ENTRY AS WELL AS TO UNSIGNALIZED DRIVEWAYS. AND THAT'S COTTON MILL PLACE IN WATERS FERRY WAY.

SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A NETWORK OF STREETS AND ALLEYWAYS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED WITHIN THE SITE TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE TOWNHOMES.

AND THEN ON THE NORTH AND WEST, I'M SORRY, THE NORTH AND EAST SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AS A RESULT OF FEEDBACK THAT THE APPLICANT HAS RECEIVED FROM THE ADJACENT COMMUNITIES OF CAMDEN POND AND STONE RIDGE, THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A GREATER SETBACK IN A TREE SAVE AREA ALONG THIS PROPERTY LINE.

THEY PROVIDED A 60 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK ALONG THIS PROPERTY LINE, AS WELL AS A 25 FOOT UNDISTURBED TREE SAVE STRIP THROUGH THAT SAME AREA. ON THE SITE PLAN, THERE'S JUST UNDER 13 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE.

WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED BASED ON THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY, WOULD BE 4.39 ACRES OR 15% OF THE SITE.

SO THEY WELL EXCEED THE MINIMUM OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS AND POD AYE SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THE WEST SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT OPEN SPACE INCLUDES A CLUBHOUSE WITH POOL, MAIL, KIOSK, COMMON SPACE, SIDEWALKS, TRAIL CONNECTION, AND LARGE OPEN SPACE AREAS.

THERE IS A TRAIL CONNECTION AND WITHIN POD AYE THAT WOULD BE USED FOR, FOR BOTH SIDES OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS AN EXISTING FOOTPATH THAT HAS BEEN CREATED BY RESIDENTS IN THE AREA TRYING TO GET UP TO THE YMCA.

AND THERE IS AN EXISTING BRIDGE OVER BIG BIG CREEK.

THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO IMPROVE THIS TRAIL CONNECTION WHICH WOULD GET FOLKS OVER TO THE BIG CREEK GREENWAY.

PRESTON RIDGE PARK IN THE YMCA. AND THEN ON THE POD B SIDE OF THINGS, THEY HAVE A PLAZA, OF COURSE, AND THEN A THE 60 FOOT STRIP OF OPEN SPACE ALONG THE EAST AND NORTH SIDES.

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THE UDC REQUIRES ONE PARKING SPACE FOR EACH BEDROOM, AS WELL AS A CODE COMPLIANT DRIVEWAY.

UDC WOULD REQUIRE A 585 PARKING SPACES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

OF COURSE, EVERY TOWNHOME UNIT PROPOSED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE TWO SIDE BY SIDE PARKING SPACES WITHIN A GARAGE, AS WELL AS TWO SPACES ON A CODE COMPLIANT DRIVEWAY.

THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 780 PARKING SPACES. SO THEY WILL EXCEED THIS CODE'S MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, BUT THERE'S ALSO AN ADDITIONAL 56 SPACES THAT ARE DEPICTED THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.

THAT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THE 7880 PROVIDED.

AS I MENTIONED, WITH THE TREE SAVES TAKE YOU TO ACTUALLY, LET ME JUST TAKE YOU BACK REAL QUICK.

THIS IS JUST SHOWING THE TRAIL CONNECTIONS. THIS IS THE TRAIL CONNECTION GOING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT CROSSING THE BIG CREEK, WHICH WOULD INVOLVE A BRIDGE REPLACEMENT, A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE REPLACEMENT THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD DO.

AND IT CONNECTS INTO THIS GREEN LINE, WHICH IS THE BIG CREEK GREENWAY.

ON THE TREE SAVES, OF COURSE, ALL THE TREES WITHIN THE STREAM BUFFERS ON THE NORTH AND WEST SIDES OF THE DEVELOPMENT WILL ALL BE SAVED. BUT THEN THIS, THE ROW OF GREEN HERE THAT YOU SEE, THOSE ARE ALL TREES THAT WILL BE SAVED.

THEY'RE REFLECTING THEIR CRITICAL ROOT ZONES AROUND THOSE TREES.

AND THOSE WILL BE SAVED IN THAT 25 FOOT, UNDISTURBED TREE SAFE STRIP.

AND THEN THERE ARE TWO THERE ARE TWO EXISTING DETENTION PONDS ON THE PROPERTY, THE PONDS, ONE POND SERVES THE COMMERCIAL OUT PARCELS ALONG THE FRONTAGE AND THEN THE OTHER ONE HERE SERVES STONERIDGE COMMUNITY. AND THE APPLICANT SITE PLAN PROPOSES TWO ADDITIONAL STORMWATER FACILITIES AT THE NORTH END OF PA AYE. AND THEN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF POD B HERE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF RENDERINGS, AND I'LL LET THE APPLICANT SHOW THOSE TO YOU AND EXPLAIN THOSE TO YOU.

BUT THE APPLICANT HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME GETTING TO A RENDERING OR TO RENDERINGS THAT STAFF WAS COMFORTABLE WITH.

AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE PRIMARY EXTERIOR MATERIAL ON THESE RENDERINGS ARE PRIMARILY A MASONRY PRODUCTS BRICK OR STONE PRODUCT.

AND THEY DO HAVE MATERIALS AND DETAILS ON ALL FOUR SIDES.

SO I'LL JUST QUICKLY SHOW YOU THOSE. YOU'LL SEE THE CHIMNEY DETAIL ON THE ENDS OF BUILDINGS.

THOSE WILL BE ON BUILDINGS THAT ARE HAVE SIDES VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.

AND THERE'S A CONDITION THAT ADDRESSES THAT WITH A CHIMNEY EXHIBIT THAT I'LL SHOW YOU.

AND THIS IS JUST GOING TO, THESE ARE GOING TO JUST SHOW YOU ALL SIDES OF VARIOUS BUILDING TYPES.

THERE'S EACH WITHIN EACH SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

EMPIRE HAS, I BELIEVE THREE DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPES.

AND TOLL BROTHERS HAS THREE DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPES.

THERE ARE A FEW ELEVATIONS THAT WILL HAVE SOME BOARD AND BATTEN OR SIDING DETAILS, BUT THE PRIMARY MATERIAL ON ALL THE EXTERIORS IS, IS BRICK.

THIS IS JUST SHOWING YOU THE MORE DETAILED SIDE ELEVATIONS.

WE ALWAYS WE A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING, YOU KNOW, THOSE THE SIDE ELEVATIONS WITH THE DETAILS THAT WE FEEL ARE NECESSARY.

AND THEN THIS IS THE CHIMNEY EXHIBIT. SO THE, THE PINK WHERE YOU HAVE A C, A PINK BLOCK THAT REPRESENTS WHERE THE BUILDING ENDS WOULD HAVE THAT CHIMNEY DETAIL.

BACK TO THE SITE PLAN. OF COURSE, WE LOOKED AT THE TRAFFIC WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.

THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A TRIP GENERATION REPORT INDICATING THAT THE TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT WOULD GENERATE 100 A M PEAK HOUR TRIPS AND 100 AND 3 P.M.

PEAK HOUR TRIPS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OFFICE, THE APPROVAL ON THE, THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY THE PROPERTY COULD HANDLE UP TO

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WELL, IF RESIDENTIAL IS DEVELOPED ON THE PROPERTY AS OPPOSED TO OFFICE, IT WOULD REPRESENT 113% DECREASE IN A M PEAK HOUR TRIPS AND 105% DECREASE IN PM PEAK HOUR TRIPS. RESIDENTIAL IS NOT GOING TO GENERATE AS MUCH AS MANY TRIPS AS THE OFFICE WOULD THEN.

A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY WAS ALSO PROVIDED TO THE CITY.

THE APPLICANT STUDIED THREE. THE THREE EXISTING INTERSECTIONS AT COTTON CREEK ENTRY AND THEN THE TWO UNSIGNALIZED DRIVEWAYS. THE STUDY CONCLUDES THAT NO CHANGES OR IMPROVEMENTS WERE RECOMMENDED TO THE THREE STUDY INTERSECTIONS.

THE RESULTS INDICATED THAT THE STUDY INTERSECTIONS WOULD CONTINUE TO OPERATE AT AN OVERALL ACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF SERVICE IN THE AM AND PM PEAK HOURS. AND I DID WANT TO SHOW YOU THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN WORKING WITH SOME ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.

THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH GDOT TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE INTERSECTION AT COTTON CREEK ENTRY.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE HERE. SO THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN WORKING SPECIFICALLY WITH GDOT AS GDOT HAS BEGUN THEIR PROJECT ALONG OLD MILTON PARKWAY.

AND ONE THING THAT THE APPLICANT TRAFFIC ENGINEER WAS THINKING ABOUT IS COULD WE INCREASE THE STORAGE LENGTH IN THESE TURNING LANES ON OLD MILTON PARKWAY TURNING SOUTH AND NORTH ONTO BROOKSIDE PARKWAY AND TO COTTON CREEK ENTRY.

I'M SORRY I SAID THAT WRONG. TURNING NORTH ONTO COTTON CREEK ENTRY AND SOUTH INTO BROOKSIDE PARKWAY.

SO IT WOULD JUST PROVIDE FOR MORE STORAGE CAPACITY WITHIN THESE TURN LANES FOR VEHICLES.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S DEPICTED HERE. AND THEN AT THE SOUTH END OF THE INTERSECTION AT BROOKSIDE PARKWAY, AS WELL AS ON COTTON CREEK, THEY SHOW NEW DEDICATED THROUGH LANES AND TURN LANES TO PROVIDE MORE CAPACITY AT THE INTERSECTION.

IN ADDITION, THE APPLICANT HAD BEEN WORKING WITH ANDY'S CUSTARD, WHO IS RIGHT HERE.

AND SO ANDY'S CURRENTLY HAS A FULL ACCESS OPENING OFF OF COTTON CREEK ENTRY AT THIS LOCATION.

AND WHAT HAPPENS IS CARS STOP HERE TO TURN IN AND THEY'RE WAITING FOR OTHER CARS TO PASS.

AND THEN THEY STOP. AND THEN THEY START QUEUING UP INTO OLD MILTON PARKWAY.

AND SO THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED WITH THE OWNER OF THE ANDY'S CUSTARD PROPERTY.

AND THE OWNER OF ANDY'S CUSTARD, I'VE BEEN TOLD, HAS AGREED TO A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT AT THIS LOCATION, WHICH WOULD RESOLVE THAT THAT BACKUP SCENARIO.

AND OF COURSE, WE LOOKED AT THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL AGAINST THE REVIEW REVIEW CRITERIA FOR THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT, COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, AMENDMENT AND REZONING.

WE BELIEVE THE PROPOSAL IS SUITABLE GIVEN THE DEVELOPMENT OF ADJACENT AND NEARBY PROPERTIES, WHICH INCLUDES STONE RIDGE AND CAMDEN POND SUBDIVISIONS, PRESTON RIDGE PARK AND THE BIG CREEK GREENWAY.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES OLD MILTON, EAST OF GEORGIA 400, AS A PRIORITY AREA IN NEED OF REDEVELOPMENT AND TO CREATE ACTIVITY NODES NEAR OR WITHIN EXISTING SUBURBAN OFFICE PARKS.

AND OF COURSE, THE THE CITY'S JOBS TO HOUSING RATIO RATIO SUGGESTS A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING.

THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD GENERATE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS TRAFFIC, AS I MENTIONED, AS AS IT RELATES TO THE RESIDENTIAL OVER OFFICE.

AND IT IS SUPPORTED BY OVER 12 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE.

ULTIMATELY, WE BELIEVE THAT THE PROPOSAL WOULD MINIMIZE IMPACTS ON PUBLIC FACILITIES AND SERVICES.

THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION REPORT INDICATING THAT THEY HAD HELD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE ADJACENT HOAS AND RESIDENTS. QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AT THOSE MEETINGS INCLUDED QUESTIONS ABOUT PRICE POINTS, UNIT SIZE, TYPE WHETHER OR NOT COTTON ENTRY THE CUL DE SAC WOULD BE ABANDONED.

LET ME SHOW YOU THAT REAL QUICK.

SO THERE ARE A COUPLE LOCATIONS YOU'LL SEE AS I GO THROUGH THE CONDITIONS.

THERE'S A CONDITION RELATED TO THE APPLICANT COMING BACK AND SEEKING A ROAD ABANDONMENT.

SO THAT WOULD BE FOR THIS THIS CUL DE SAC, DEAD END OF COTTON CREEK ENTRY.

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AND WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING BACK THERE. AND I BELIEVE THE NEIGHBORS ARE SUPPORTIVE OF REMOVING THAT CUL DE SAC.

ALSO THIS AREA HERE IN THIS AREA HERE, THESE, THESE CORNERS WERE CONSTRUCTED AS ALMOST CUL DE SACS WITH A LARGE RADII HERE.

AND SO THE APPLICANT IS SHOWING THOSE SQUARED OFF.

SO THE APPLICANT WOULD SEEK NEED TO SEEK A ROAD ABANDONMENT TO TO ABANDON THAT RIGHT OF WAY AS WELL.

GOING BACK TO THE COMMENTS AND CONCERNS THAT THE APPLICANT RECEIVED AT THEIR MEETINGS.

THERE WERE COMMENTS AND CONCERNS ABOUT EROSION CONTROL, TREE REMOVAL TRAFFIC, USE OF AMENITIES, IMPACT, PROPERTY VALUE VALUES, TRAIL CONNECTION, STORMWATER LANDSCAPE AND BUFFERING, DEVELOPMENT, TIMING IMPACTS TO WILDLIFE AND CONSTRUCTION HOURS.

STAFF HAS ALSO RECEIVED SIMILAR CORRESPONDENCE FROM NEIGHBORING RESIDENTS WITH SIMILAR CONCERNS.

AND THERE WERE ALSO SIMILAR CONCERNS STATED AT THE JANUARY 14TH COMMUNITY ZONING INFORMATION MEETING.

WITH THAT, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, SUBJECT TO 25 CONDITIONS, AND I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE CONDITIONS QUICKLY.

CONDITION ONE IS THE SITE PLAN SPECIFIC CONDITION, TYING IT TO THE 72126PEPEC SITE PLAN AND REZONING THE PROPERTY TO R TEN M CONDITION TWO IS THE ARCHITECTS ARCHITECTURE AND MATERIAL CONDITION, TYING IT TO THE RENDERINGS THAT I SHOWED YOU AND REFERENCING THE CHIMNEY EXHIBIT CONDITION THREE LIMITS THE PROPERTY TO 195 FOR SALE TOWNHOMES.

CONDITION FOUR ALLOWS THE LOCAL STREETS AND ALLEYS THAT ARE DEPICTED ON THE SITE PLAN AND PRESCRIBES A STREETSCAPE FOR THE LOW STREETS.

CONDITION FIVE SIDEWALKS WITHIN THE SITE SHALL CONNECT TO THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK ON OLD MILTON PARKWAY.

COTTON CREEK ENTRY COTTON MILL PLACE. WHITE STONE PLACE.

WATERS FERRY DRIVE AND WATERS FERRY WAY. CONDITION SIX REINFORCES THE 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE STRIP REQUIREMENT ALONG OLD MILTON PARKWAY AND THEN THE TEN FOOT LANDSCAPE STRIP REQUIREMENT ALONG LOCAL STREETS.

CONDITION SEVEN IS THE TREE SAVE CONDITION, TYING THEM TO THEIR TREE SAVE PLAN.

EIGHT IS THE OPEN SPACE CONDITION, TYING THEM TO THE SITE PLAN DEPICTING THE OPEN SPACE.

CONDITION NINE REQUIRES ARCHITECTURAL FACADE TREATMENT ON RETAINING WALLS AND TERRACING.

IF THE RETAINING WALLS ARE OVER 16FT IN HEIGHT, CONDITION TEN SAYS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT SHALL NOT BE GATED EXCEPT FOR THERE IS AN EMERGENCY GATED CONDITION RIGHT HERE, AND THAT LOCATION, THAT CURB CUT IS TOO CLOSE TO THIS INTERSECTION HERE.

SO THIS MUST BE GATED. THIS IS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES ONLY.

CONDITION 11 IS THE REQUIRED STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG OLD MILTON PARKWAY.

ALSO THERE ARE SECTIONS. SO WITH THE GDOT PROJECT, THE.

THE EXISTING FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK IS NOT BEING UPGRADED TO A LARGER SIDEWALK THAT IS NOT WITHIN GDOT PLANS.

THERE ARE SECTIONS OF SIDEWALKS THAT IS JUST COMPLETELY MISSING OUT HERE ON THE PROPERTY AND ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

SO CONNECTING OVER TO CAMDEN POND, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO WE ARE ASKING THE APPLICANT AND CONDITION 11 TO FILL IN THE GAPS WHERE THERE'S MISSING SIDEWALK.

I'M SORRY, THAT WAS WITH CONDITION 12. ACTUAL CONDITION.

MY APOLOGIES, I WAS CORRECT AND IT WAS CONDITION 11.

CONDITION 12 IS AN OFF SITE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT ADJACENT TO ANDY'S HERE, SO THERE'S A MISSING SECTION OF SIDEWALK.

THEY'RE ASKING THE APPLICANT TO DO THAT IN EXCHANGE FOR IMPACT FEE CREDITS.

CONDITION 13 DEVELOPER SHALL IMPROVE AND ENHANCE PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK AT THE INTERSECTION OF OLD MILTON PARKWAY AND COTTON CREEK.

ENTRY WITH THE BROOKSIDE SMALL AREA PLAN. WE DID HAVE AN ENHANCED CROSSWALKS SECTIONS AT THIS INTERSECTION.

AND SO THAT THAT IS WHAT THAT'S REFERRING TO THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR IMPACT FEE CREDITS.

CONDITION 14 IS THE REQUIREMENT TO DEDICATE PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT FOR THE TRAIL CONNECTION.

SO THIS IS THAT TRAIL CONNECTION THAT GOES UP TO PRESTON RIDGE PARK IN THE YMCA.

THE TYPICAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT REQUIRING THAT TRAIL CONNECTION BE COMPLETED BY THE 25TH CEO WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT.

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CONDITION 15 IS THE CONDITION THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL SEEK APPROVAL OF A ROAD ABANDONMENT FOR THAT CUL DE SAC AND THESE CLEANED UP AREAS. CONDITION 16 REQUIRES A STOP INSTALLATION OF A STOP SIGN AND PEDESTRIAN CROSSING ALONG THE FERRIES WATERS FERRY WAY APPROACH TO THE INTERSECTION AT WATERS FERRY DRIVE AND INTERNAL SITE DRIVE ONE, AS WELL AS THE INTERSECTIONS OF COTTON CREEK ENTRY AND COTTON PLACE AS APPROVED BY STAFF.

SO THESE ARE AS A RESULT OF OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER REVIEWING THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL.

CONDITION 17 DEVELOPER SHALL APPROVE AN EASTBOUND LEFT TURN LANE STORAGE LENGTH ALONG OLD MILTON PARKWAY AT THE COTTON CREEK ENTRY BROOKSIDE PARKWAY INTERSECTION TO MINIMUM LENGTHS NEEDED TO SAFELY ACCOMMODATE THE VEHICULAR MOVEMENTS ENTERING THE SITE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, AS APPROVED BY GDOT AND CITY STAFF. SO AGAIN, THAT GOING BACK TO THOSE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS ALONG OLD MILTON.

WITH THE STORAGE CAPACITY AND THE TURNING LANES.

CONDITION 18 DEVELOPER SHALL INSTALL. DO NOT BLOCK THE BOX STRIPING SIGNAGE AT THE COTTON CREEK ENTRY IN WATERS FERRY WAY INTERSECTION 19.

DEVELOPER SHALL EXPLORE A THREE WAY STOP AT COTTON CREEK ENTRY AND COTTON MILL PLACE, SUBJECT TO WARRANT ANALYSIS.

20 DEVELOPER SHALL INSTALL SCULPTURES AT THE CORNER OF COTTON MILL PATH AND OLD MILTON PARKWAY AND WATERS FAIR DRIVE IN OLD MILTON PARKWAY.

SCULPTURES SHALL COMPLEMENT EACH OTHER AND SHALL BE MINIMUM 15 FOOT TALL, WITH FINAL APPROVAL BY THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION, DEVELOPER SHALL COORDINATE SCULPTURE DESIGNS WITH BROOKSIDE SOUTH PORTMAN TO REFLECT A COHESIVE THEME.

THAT'S THE DEVELOPMENT JUST ON SOUTH SIDE OF THIS 21, AS AGREED TO BY THE DEVELOPER.

A 60 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK SHALL BE REQUIRED ALONG THE EAST AND NORTH PROPERTY LINE AND POD BE SOUTH OF WHITE WHITE STONE PLACE AS DEPICTED ON THE SITE PLAN PREPARED BY PECK.

REVISED 72126 AND COMMISSION 22. IS THAT 25 FOOT DISTURBED TREE SAFE STRIP IN THAT SAME AREA? CONDITION 23 ALSO AGREED TO BY THE DEVELOPER AND IN COUNCIL IN THEIR COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE ADJACENT HOA.

THE HOA DECLARATION AND COVENANTS SHALL INCLUDE A REQUIREMENT FOR DOGS AND ON LEASHES, NOISE LIMITATIONS AND A REQUIREMENT FOR TRASH RECEPTACLE SCREENING 24 AGAIN AS AGREED TO BY THE DEVELOPER LIGHTING ON THE REAR FACADE OF THE PROPOSED HOMES ABUTTING THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF POD B, SOUTH OF WHITE STONE PLACE, SHALL BE SHIELDED TO MINIMIZE LIGHT SPILLAGE ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND CONDITION 25 NO MORE THAN 10% OF THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS SHALL BE PERMITTED TO BE RENTED, AS REFLECTED IN THE HOA DECLARATION AND COVENANTS.

AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, MICHAEL. ANY QUESTIONS? MICHAEL. QUITE A FEW. MICHAEL. FIRST THE THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

I DON'T KNOW IF IF THERE'S A WAY TO SPEAK TO WHETHER WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STUDY THE IMPACT TO THAT, THAT LIGHTED INTERSECTION ADDITIVE TO ANY TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE ADDED BY BROOKSIDE.

I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THE APPLICANTS TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

THEY ARE HERE THIS EVENING. OKAY. ALSO THE THE TRAIL CONNECTION TO BIG CREEK GREENWAY.

THAT IS TO BE PUBLIC. YES. YEAH. THE CONDITION WOULD REQUIRE A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT.

OKAY. GENERALLY SPEAKING I'M AWARE THAT EVERY TIME I'VE SEEN AN ADDITION OF PUBLIC ACCESS TRAIL CONNECTION IT'S FOLLOWED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY BY A REQUEST FOR PARKING BY THE PUBLIC.

AND I ASSUME IN THIS CASE BY NONRESIDENTS AND RESIDENTS ALIKE.

ANY PROVISION FOR THAT THERE IS NOT IN THE CONDITION, BUT CERTAINLY YOU COULD ASK THE APPLICANT ABOUT THAT.

THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR ROOM FOR PARKING THERE.

OKAY. ADDITIONALLY, I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO OBSERVE THE TOPOGRAPHICAL CHANGES.

I ASSUME THAT THIS PROPERTY PEAKS SEVERAL FEET AWAY FROM OLD MILTON PARKWAY.

DOES IT COME DOWNHILL TOWARDS THE OFFICES ALONG OLD MILTON PARKWAY? I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT. I MEAN, BASICALLY THE PROPERTY IS SLOPING DOWN TOWARDS BIG CREEK GENERALLY, BUT GENERALLY. BUT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

THE APPLICANT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE FAMILIAR WITH THAT AND BETTER ANSWER.

ANSWER THAT. OBVIOUSLY, I WAS GOING TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT INCREASED RUNOFF IN THE DIRECTION OF OLD MILTON AND THOSE OFFICE BUILDINGS.

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THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONDITIONS THAT SPECIFY THAT.

NOTHING THAT MAINTAINS THAT STRIP THE THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT STRIP WOULD BE THE HOA.

THAT WOULD BE COMMON AREA ON THIS PROPERTY. AND IT WOULD BE THE HOA RESPONSIBILITY RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THAT AREA.

OKAY. HOW IS THERE ANYTHING, ANY WAY IN WHICH THAT COULD BE CIRCULATED SOMEWHERE THAT THE TREE SAFE AREA BE MAINTAINED? CERTAINLY YOU COULD ADD THAT WITHIN THE CONDITION RELATED TO THAT 25 FOOT TREE.

IT'S A CONDITION NUMBER 22. OKAY. IF YOU WANT TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE, I THINK THAT WE WOULD UNDERSTAND IT TO BE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY SPECIFY IT WITHIN THAT CONDITION BASED ON SOME EXPERIENCE.

IT WAS A GRAY AREA THAT NEVER GOT ADDRESSED. YEAH.

THE BRIDGE OVER BIG CREEK, WHICH YOU MENTIONED WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED.

IS THAT IN A THE FLOOD PRONE AREA? AND WOULD THERE BE SOME SOME OF THE MORE STRINGENT ENGINEERING REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE OF FLOODING? I WOULD ASSUME SO IT IS. IT'S ON CITY PROPERTY THAT THE, THE BRIDGE.

AND THIS WOULD BE DONE. IT'S AN OFF SITE IMPROVEMENT THAT WOULD BE DONE FOR IMPACT FEE CREDITS.

SO THERE IS THE COMPONENT OF ANY KIND OF PERMITTING OR APPROVALS THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY.

FOR THAT. SO I KNOW THE APPLICANT HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH THAT AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

SO I THINK THAT THAT WAS, THAT WAS ACTUALLY WRITTEN INTO THE, INTO THE CONDITION.

OKAY. AND LAST QUESTION FOR NOW. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.

WILL TRASH RECEPTACLES BE COMMUNAL OR INDIVIDUAL UNITS? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GOING TO BE INDIVIDUAL.

I THINK THE ISSUE THAT WITH THE KITCHEN REGARDING TRASH RECEPTACLES WAS A RESULT OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.

I THINK THE THE FOLKS IN CAMDEN POND AND POSSIBLY STONEBRIDGE FELT LIKE TRASH CANS WOULD BE YOU KNOW, KEPT OUT FROM VIEW FROM THEIR INTERNAL STREETS, BUT THEN MAYBE KEPT BEHIND THE UNITS AND VISIBLE TO THEM.

AND SO THAT'S WHY THAT CONDITION WAS PLACED IN THERE.

IT DIDN'T HAVE TO DO WITH WHETHER THEY WOULD HAVE COMMUNAL TRASH OR INDIVIDUAL TRASH.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY WOULD HAVE INDIVIDUAL.

OKAY. AND MY ABSOLUTE LAST QUESTION THIS TIME FOR THE THE INTERIOR STREETS STREET WIDTH IS TO BE HOW HOW WIDE CURB TO CURB.

THE LOCAL STREET WITH A LOCAL STREET TO RIGHT AWAY REQUIREMENT IS IS 50FT.

TYPICALLY THE PAVED WITH WILL VARY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 25 TO 28 JUST DEPENDING ON THE WIDTH OF THE, THE TWO TRAVEL LANES WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS STREET PARKING.

YES. WHICH INEVITABLY BECOMES AN ISSUE. WOULD THIS BE OPEN, BE AMENABLE TO STREET PARKING? WILL THIS BECOME AN ISSUE? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

MY GUESS IS THAT THE APPLICANT WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

THEY'LL HAVE THEY'LL KNOW WHAT THE PAVED WIDTH IS.

I BELIEVE THEY WOULD NEED A PAVE WIDTH, INCLUDING CURB, OF AT LEAST 28FT, TO ALLOW PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET.

OKAY, SO THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED AT AT WHAT POINT AT LDP.

SO THERE WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE A PAVED WIDTH OF 28FT, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PUT PLACE SIGNAGE ALONG THOSE STREETS INDICATING NO, NO STREET PARKING. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL QUIT PICKING ON YOU NOW.

HEY, MICHAEL. I HAD A QUESTION ON THAT. GOING BACK TO NUMBER 22 ON THE 25FT UNDISTURBED TREE SAVE STRIP.

WHAT IS ON WHAT IS THE CODE ON RESIDENTIAL TO RESIDENTIAL AND THEN RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.

WHAT IS REQUIRED THERE FOR IF IT'S A TREE SHAPE.

SO OUR CODE RESIDENTIAL TO RESIDENTIAL DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY UNDISTURBED BUFFERS.

ALL THAT WOULD BE ALL OUR CODE WOULD REQUIRE ALONG THIS COMMON PROPERTY LINE.

RESIDENTIAL TO RESIDENTIAL IS A FIVE FOOT LANDSCAPE STRIP.

THE APPLICANT OFFERED OR AGREED TO PROVIDE THE 20 FOOT, 25 FOOT UNDISTURBED TREE SAVE AREA TO ADDRESS CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, KEEP MAINTAINING SOME SCREENING BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES AND THE OTHER.

ONE OTHER QUESTION IS IN THE STORMWATER RUNOFF, RETENTION OR DETENTION POND BACK THERE AT THE BACK.

THIS IS A PRETTY BIG PROPERTY. I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN IN HERE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON ABOUT POTENTIAL FOR FLOODING,

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SO THEY, BECAUSE THEY DON'T DO THE HYDROLOGY STUDY AT THIS TIME, THAT'S WHAT WILL DETERMINE THE SIZE OF THE POND THAT THEY WOULD NEED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO THEY HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET, BUT THEY'VE CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE RUN SOME PRELIMINARY NUMBERS TO, TO DETERMINE THE AMOUNT OF SPACE ON THE SITE PLAN THAT THEY NEEDED TO RESERVE FOR THAT TYPE OF FACILITY.

THANKS AGAIN FOR THE PRESENTATION. A QUESTION ABOUT DECOMMISSIONING THE CUL DE SAC.

HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION PARK OR. I GUESS WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT PARKING FOR THE TRAIL, BUT HAS THERE BEEN WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT IN THIS PLAN.

SO THE THE CONDITION JUST SAYS THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD SEEK A ROAD ABANDONMENT FOR THIS AREA.

AND THEN THE TWO SMALLER AREAS, IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT THE APPLICANT WOULD NECESSARILY DO WITH THAT LAND.

YOU KNOW COMMISSIONER MANLEY BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT POTENTIAL FOR PARKING FOR THE TRAIL.

AND THAT CERTAINLY MIGHT BE A LOCATION THAT THAT MAKES SENSE FOR IT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT FELT WOULD WORK WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.

BUT NO, WE DON'T, WE DON'T ASSIGN THAT THAT HAS TO BE USED FOR X.

AND HAVE THEY EXPRESSED. SO THERE'S THE DIFFERENT PODS.

IS THIS A PHASED PROJECT OR IS IT GENERALLY ALL AT ONE TIME? I'LL LET THE APPLICANT RESPOND. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW, IF THEY'RE BOTH GOING TO BE GOING AT THE SAME TIME, DEVELOPING AT THE SAME TIME, OR IF THEY'LL BE AT DIFFERENT PERIODS OF TIME, BUT I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT FOR YOU.

THANKS. YEAH. MICHAEL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HOW MANY ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES ARE THEY PUTTING IN OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WE REQUIRE. 56. 56 GUEST SPACES. AND THEY'RE.

AND THEY'RE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

NOT TO MENTION THAT ACROSS THE STREET, SINCE WE PROVED THAT ZONING, THERE'S GOING TO BE LIKE A PARK, AN ENTRANCE TO THE GREENWAY. SO THE LIKELIHOOD OF SOMEBODY COMING DOWN OLD MILTON PARKWAY AND SAYING, I'M GOING TO PULL INTO THIS PLACE AND SO I CAN WALK ON THE GREENWAY.

THERE'S PROBABLY EASIER PLACES TO ACCESS THE GREENWAY, INCLUDING MY OWN SUBDIVISION THAT ACCESSES THE GREENWAY.

AND WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR 30 PLUS YEARS AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD A PROBLEM.

I'M SURE THERE'S PROBABLY MORE OBVIOUS LOCATIONS FOR THE PUBLIC TO PARK FOR THE FOR THE GREENWAY.

I, YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY COULD SEE SOME CONCERN WITH JUST THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMING IN HERE AND PARKING.

OBVIOUSLY, IT WILL BE A PUBLIC ASSET AND THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC EASEMENT THERE.

SO IT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC USE. BUT CERTAINLY I AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENTS.

THE. AS FAR AS THE SIDEWALK WITH. IS FIVE FEET THE G G DOT OR IS THAT OUR REQUIREMENT? SO THE FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG OLD MILTON.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT G DOT INSTALLED, YOU KNOW, WAY BACK WHEN.

AND THEY'RE JUST WITH THIS NEW ROAD PROJECT THAT THEY'RE DOING OUT THERE, THEY'RE NOT DOING ANY UPGRADES TO THE EXISTING SIDEWALK.

SO IT JUST STAYS AND IT'S NOT THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY TO EXPAND IT ANYWAY.

IT'S IT'S NOT THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY, BUT BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME SIDEWALK GAPS THAT WOULD BENEFIT THEIR FUTURE RESIDENTS OF THEIR COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS THE ADJACENT EXISTING RESIDENTS THAT MAY WANT TO WALK FROM CAMDEN OR STONE RIDGE OVER TO THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

THAT'S WE ASKED THEM TO DO THAT IN EXCHANGE FOR THE IMPACT FEE CREDITS.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, MICHAEL, HOW WOULD THE STREETS BE MAINTAINED OR PRIVATE STREETS AFFECT THE PUBLIC USING THOSE TO PARK IN ACCESSING THE TRAIL OR WHATNOT? WOULD THAT AFFECT IT AT ALL? CAN THE PUBLIC USE THESE PRIVATE STREETS TO PARK? AND THE PUBLIC WOULDN'T HAVE TO USE PRIVATE STREETS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO THIS IS THIS IS PUBLIC RIGHT. SO CONCRETE ENTRIES PUBLIC.

AND THEN THE OTHER EXISTING STREETS ARE PUBLIC AS WELL.

SO THOSE WILL REMAIN PUBLIC. SO TO GET TO THE TO THE TRAIL AT THIS LOCATION, THERE'S POTENTIAL TO GET THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO ON ANY PRIVATE.

BUT IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO ENTER THE DEVELOPMENT, THEY WOULD BE ON PRIVATE.

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THAT COULD BE STOPPED BECAUSE THESE ARE PRIVATE, THESE ARE PRIVATE STREETS.

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. MICHAEL, FOLLOW UP ON THAT. IT'S NOT GATED.

IT IS NOT GATED. SO HOW IS IT A PRIVATE STREET? IT'S THEIR PRIVATE STREETS. THEY. THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED HERE.

THE STREETS DON'T MEET. LISTEN, IF THE APPLICANT'S HAPPY WITH IT, I'M FINE.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD AND MAKE A PRESENTATION.

WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK TO MICHAEL FOR FURTHER QUESTIONS.

GO AHEAD AND TURN ME ON. ALL RIGHT. GETTING ALL SET UP.

GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. MY NAME IS JESSICA HILL. MY BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 600 PEACHTREE STREET, AND I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT. I AM JOINED TONIGHT BY SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE PROJECT TEAM, FOLKS FROM EMPIRE HOMES, FROM TOLL BROTHERS. WE HAVE OUR PROJECT CIVIL ENGINEER, KEN WOOD, WHO YOU'LL HEAR FROM IN A FEW MINUTES, AS WELL AS TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. SO WE HAVE FOLKS TO ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS. MR. WOODMAN DID A VERY OH, HE'S OVER THERE NOW. HE DID A VERY THOROUGH JOB, AS USUAL IN HIS APPLICATION PRESENTATION, BUT I'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME ADDITIONAL ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT.

SO I'M USING SOMEBODY ELSE'S COMPUTER. SO THIS JUST OVER 29 ACRE PROPERTY HAS BEEN VACANT SINCE IT WAS ZONED AS PART OF THE 63 ACRE MASTER PLAN IN 1984.

IN THE 1990S, THE PROPERTY WAS CLEARED. SO THAT'S WHY THE ROADS THAT YOU SEE, WHERE WE'RE ABANDONING PORTIONS OF THEM, THOSE ROADS WERE INSTALLED WITH THE THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A FUTURE OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S ZONED FOR. IT NEVER CAME UP.

WE HAVE FILED A REZONING REQUEST, A MASTER PLAN REQUEST, A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST, AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. AND I THINK OUR DESIGN HAS EVOLVED TO REFLECT SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS.

WE'VE HAD ACTUALLY SOME REALLY GREAT FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED. LET'S GO.

ALL RIGHT. WHY TOWNHOMES? WELL, ONE, I WENT TO MANY.

ONE, THE SITE HAS BEEN VACANT FOR 40 YEARS. IT HAS A LACK OF DEVELOPMENT, WHICH SUGGESTS THAT THE CURRENT ENTITLEMENTS ARE NOT ALIGNED WITH THE MARKET AND HAVEN'T FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THE PROPERTY HAS GREAT ACCESS.

THE NEW BROOKSIDE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET TO INCLUDE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING COMMERCIAL USES.

AND IT NEEDS ROOFTOPS TO THRIVE. AVALON IS 1.6 MILES EAST.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS PLAN, DOWNTOWN ALPHARETTA IS LOCATED WITH 2.8 MILES AND THE PROPERTY OBVIOUSLY HAS CONVENIENT ACCESS TO GEORGIA 400.

LET'S SEE. THERE IS A HOUSING MARKET ANALYSIS IN THE VERY RECENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT I'M SHARING ON SCREEN.

AND YOU CAN SEE ALPHARETTA IS LISTED IN RED OF THE TOTAL HOUSING INVENTORY OF TOWNHOMES IN THE AREA.

AS COMPARED TO ALL OF YOUR NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS, YOU FALL SOMEWHERE RIGHT ABOUT IN THE MIDDLE.

12.4% OF THE HOUSING STOCK IN THE CITY IS TOWNHOMES.

AND IT FALLS BELOW OTHER AREAS SUCH AS MARIETTA, MILTON, SUWANEE, AND KENNESAW.

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER IMAGE OF THE BROOKSIDE MASTER PLAN AGAIN, SHOWING THIS PROJECT TO THE NORTH.

AND IT SHOWS HOW IT FITS WITHIN THE ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM REALLY CREATING.

WE'RE CALLING BROOKSIDE NORTH OR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BROOKSIDE, BUT WE THINK THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BE ACCRETIVE TO THE PORTMAN DEVELOPMENT.

GEORGIA STATE'S PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE SUPPORTING RESIDENTIAL.

I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT TRAIL CONNECTIVITY. HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE? IS THIS IS THIS IS THIS ACCURATELY GOING. YES IT IS.

OKAY. AWESOME. THANK YOU. KENNETH WOOD 350. RESEARCH COURT, PEACHTREE CORNERS, GEORGIA.

SO I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE WHY. LIKE, LIKE, WHY ARE WE HERE? WHY THIS PROPERTY? YOU KNOW, A FLAG HAS BEEN PLACED IN THE GROUND.

IT WAS PLACED IN THE GROUND BY PORTMAN. IT WAS PLACED IN THE GROUND BY GEORGIA STATE BEING THERE.

AND WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY. THIS IS OUR THIS IS OUR CURRENT PLAN.

YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S CALLED BROOKSIDE. AND WE'RE A PART OF IT, WHETHER IT'S OUR STYLE, THE WAY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP THE SITE PLAN IN COOPERATION WITH COMMENTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS, WHICH HAS REALLY DEVELOPED INTO A PLAN WE'RE VERY PROUD OF WITH THEIR HELP AND THEIR COMMENTS THROUGH THIS.

AND SO WALKABILITY, ACCESS TRAILS, THE AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE THAT WE CAN SAVE.

WE'RE SITTING UP ON THE RIDGE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHERE THOSE TREES WERE CLEARED BACK IN THE DAY, IT WAS SO MUCH TOPOGRAPHY IF YOU KEEP GOING DOWN THE HILL.

WE DIDN'T TRY TO CHASE IT. AND TOWNHOMES ARE A BETTER SUIT FOR DEVELOPING ON TOPOGRAPHY, MUCH MORE THAN AN OFFICE WHERE YOU'D HAVE A 3040 FOOT WALL TRYING TO HOLD UP IN THE BACKSIDE. LOOKING AT THE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE, THERE'S SIX DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPES, ACTUALLY A SEVENTH WITH SOME ROOFTOP ITEMS ON SOME OF

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WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH OUR PLAN, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF GREEN SPACE.

ALL OUR PLANS ARE FACING ON GREEN SPACES. WE'VE TRIED TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF ROADS.

WE DO HAVE 26 FOOT WIDE ROADS. WE HAVE AMPLE ROADS COMING THROUGH WITH GUEST PARKING, BUT WE REALLY TRIED TO LISTEN TO WHAT WE HEARD, HAVE BIG BUFFERS TO THE EDGES AND LARGE SETBACKS COMING THROUGH THERE.

AND SO OUR DESIGN, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE NEXT TO US, AND ALSO THE NEIGHBORS, THE COMMERCIAL IS REALLY INTEGRATE WITHIN THEM.

WE THINK WE'VE DONE THAT IN ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS. AND I'D LIKE TO STOP THERE.

AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE SOME OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO SPEAK TO. JUST A COUPLE MORE SLIDES.

JUST TO TOUCH QUICKLY ON TRAFFIC, AS MR. WOODMAN INDICATED, WE DID DO A TRAFFIC STUDY.

IT DID INCLUDE THE BROOKSIDE DRI, THE TRAFFIC FROM THAT AS WELL AS BACKGROUND GROWTH.

SO BOTH HAVE BEEN ACCOMMODATED AND IT DID NOT YIELD ANY IMPROVEMENTS.

WE ARE PROPOSING TO MAKE SOME ENHANCEMENTS TO THE GDOT PLANS, WHICH WERE SUGGESTIONS BY THE NEIGHBORS BASED ON THINGS THAT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING DAY TO DAY. WE DO HAVE A PROJECT CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE.

I'M HAPPY TO SHARE MORE ABOUT THAT WITH YOU, BUT THE TOP AND GREEN IS, IS THE GDOT IMPROVEMENT ON THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND THE BOTTOM IN PINK IS THE PROJECTED TIMELINE FOR THIS PROJECT AS FAR AS DELIVERING HOUSES AND SELLING THEM.

I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THESE ELEVATIONS AS MUCH AS YOU WANT, BUT THESE ARE I'M GOING TO FLIP THROUGH.

THESE ARE SHOW A COMPARISON OF WHERE WE STARTED AND WHERE WE ARE.

AND OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE CONDITIONS, I THINK YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'VE GONE FROM A PRODUCT THAT YOU SEE POPPING UP A LOT OF PLACES IN ALPHARETTA TO SOMETHING THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE TIMELESS AND I THINK WILL BE VERY DIFFERENT AND ACCRETIVE FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO RESERVE ANY REMAINING TIME FOR REBUTTAL.

BUT I THINK WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S GOING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT.

COME ON. FRANCIS. THEY HAVE FOUR MINUTES AND 15 SECONDS, BUT THEY HAVE THREE PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC IN FAVOR.

JUST ONE. OKAY. MY NAME IS BEVERLY WHISNANT. I'M A MY ADDRESS IS 1105 WHITESTONE RIDGE.

I'M A MEMBER OF THE BOARD FOR STONE RIDGE, FOR THE STONE RIDGE TOWNHOUSE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE SOME UNIQUE ISSUES THAT WE WENT INTO THIS WITH MAINLY THE CUL DE SAC, WHICH WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT.

WE'VE HAD CONSISTENT PROBLEMS WITH THE CUL DE SAC WITH DRUG ACTIVITY, CAR RACING, BONFIRES, YOU NAME IT. IT'S, IT'S BEEN A REAL THORN IN OUR SIDE FROM THE BEGINNING AND REALLY DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.

OUR BIGGEST ISSUE, OF COURSE, WAS THE RETENTION POND.

THE RETENTION POND. OUR PROPERTY LINE GOES THROUGH THE RETENTION POND.

WE OWN A SMALL SLIVER OF IT, AND THE REST OF IT IS ON THE LAND, WHICH IS IT'S ODD, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS DONE.

WE'VE MET WITH THE BUILDERS SEVERAL TIMES. THEY'VE LISTENED TO OUR CONCERNS AND OUR SUGGESTIONS.

CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE DEVELOPMENT BASED ON SOME OF OUR SUGGESTIONS, AND EMPIRE IS WORKING WITH US ON THE PROPOSAL TO ABANDON THE CUL DE SAC BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO AND PARTICULARLY IF IT CAN BE TURNED INTO GREEN SPACE BECAUSE OF THE COOPERATION SHOWN BY THE DEVELOPERS, STONE RIDGE IS IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S IT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE. OH, WE HAVE WE, I HAVEN'T OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT YET. RIGHT. HAVE TO GET QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD FIRST, IF ANY, AND THEN I'LL OPEN THE MEETING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANTS FROM THE BOARD? I ASSUME THERE ARE QUESTIONS. DOES SHE WANT HER TIME? NO. THE THE WERE WE NOT DOING. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO PRESENT BEFORE THE BOARD ASKS QUESTIONS? NO. WE WILL. WE WILL JUST RESERVE REMAINING TIME FOR REBUTTAL AFTER THE.

OKAY. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YOU CAN REMAIN HERE. I'M SURE THE BOARD HAS SOME QUESTIONS AND THAT DOESN'T COUNT TOWARDS YOU.

HE'S GOT MORE ANSWERS THAN I DO. THE BOARD TIME DOES NOT AFFECT YOUR TIME, SIR.

OKAY. YEAH, YOU CAN ELABORATE BASED ON THE QUESTIONS ASKED.

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THE PLAN IS TO MAKE IT INTO A GREEN SPACE. THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A LEAD IN AND YOU CAN SEE IT HERE.

SO IT'S IN THIS NORTHERN, I DON'T KNOW IF MY LITTLE HAND.

SO HE'S GOT A VERY WEIRD MOUTH. SO I'LL DO THIS.

THANK YOU. THERE YOU GO. THESE ARE THE SIDEWALKS COMING OFF OF THE STREET.

AND THEN HERE IS THE THE LARGER SIDEWALK. THE MULTI-USE TRAIL COMING DOWN.

AND THEN IT GETS BY THE THE BIG CREEK DOWN HERE.

AND SO THAT'S THE IDEA IS THIS IS BASICALLY A, YOU KNOW, A PASSIVE KIND OF PARK AREA.

SO WITHIN THE ABANDONMENT, WE WANTED TO MAKE IT VERY PASSIVE.

AND SOMEWHERE THAT COULD ONLY ENCOURAGE, IF YOU NOTICE, COMING AROUND THE LAKE.

STONERIDGE HAS REALLY NICE WALKING TRAILS COMING AROUND THE LAKE.

AND SO WE ONLY NEED, WE ONLY WANT TO FURTHER ENHANCE THAT.

AND WE DID SPEAK EARLY ON IN OUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS ABOUT WHETHER WE WOULD PUT PARKING, PUBLIC PARKING, WHICH I KNOW IS SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST DISCUSSED. AND FROM THE APPLICANT PERSPECTIVE, THE CONCERN WAS THIS IS GOING TO BE HOA MAINTAINED AREA, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC PARKING THAT THE HOA IS MAINTAINING AND ENFORCING.

AND SO THERE WAS JUST CONCERN ABOUT WHAT HOW ACCRETIVE THAT WAS AND HOW IT MIGHT BE POLICED AND HOW IT MIGHT BE AN ISSUE FOR THE HOA.

GOING BACK TO THIS IS A GREAT IDEA IN THEORY, BUT THEN WHEN THE HOA IS ACTUALLY HAVING TO MAINTAIN IT AND ENFORCE THE PARKING, THEY'RE THERE, THEY'RE LEFT WITH SOMETHING THEY MAYBE DON'T WANT. I HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU ON THE IMPACT OF THE CUL DE SAC.

THEN IF YOU WERE ABLE TO GET IT, TRANSFER OWNERSHIP, FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T WANT TO SAY CONDEMN, BUT TRANSFER OWNERSHIP. YOUR INTENTION WOULD BE GENERALLY TO DIG IT UP AND, AND FILL IT IN WITH DIRT AND THEN MAKE IT A GREEN SPACE.

YEAH. SO. SO WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE TODAY, WHEN YOU ACTUALLY COME, THE, THIS IS KIND OF A HARD RIGHT HAND BEND TO GO TO STONE RIDGE.

AND IF YOU CONTINUE STRAIGHT HERE, YOU GO DOWN THE CUL DE SAC IS TOTALLY HIDDEN.

IT ALMOST SITS BEHIND A STEEP RIDGE. IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT THERE, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AMAZINGLY HIDDEN BACK THERE.

AND SO THE IDEA IS FOR US TO PULL UP THE PAVEMENT, BRING IN LANDSCAPING, BRING IN YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF A PERGOLA OR CABANA THAT WOULD BE HERE.

FINISH THE TRAIL, HAVE ANOTHER LITTLE LOOP TRAIL AND BRING IN LANDSCAPING AND MAKE IT A PASSIVE AREA.

IF THAT CAME TO BE, WOULD THERE EVER BE A FENCE BEHIND THOSE HOUSES THAT ARE INDICATED, YOU KNOW, RIGHT THERE AT THIS AREA? OR IS THAT JUST AN ARE THEY THEY JUST HAVE AN OPEN BACKYARD AS AN EXAMPLE.

SO RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KEEPING IT OPEN.

THERE IS AN ELEVATION THERE THAT'S HARD TO SEE ON THIS PLAN.

BUT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY ARE OUT THERE, THERE'S A, THERE'S A, A GRADE DROP THAT OCCURS RIGHT HERE THAT DROPS DOWN.

AND SO THEY WOULD BE OVERLOOKING THAT AREA. SO I DON'T KNOW IF A FENCING HAS BEEN DECIDED, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT IT COULD BE PLACED THERE, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE TOTALLY NEEDED.

I MEAN, IT'S REALLY KIND OF GOING UP THE HILL FROM IT.

THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE A TOPOGRAPHIC MAP? I BELIEVE I CAN SHARE WE HAVE A LOT OF MAPS. IF THERE'S SOMETHING I DON'T HAVE, I'M GOING TO BE SHOCKED.

HERE WE GO. LET ME LET ME ZOOM IN ON IT. IF YOU CAN SHARE THE TOPOGRAPHY JUST IN GENERAL, TOWARDS BIG CREEK, RIGHT? HOW THE SITE IS CONTOURED FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE CONTOURS.

THAT'S RIGHT. SO SO SO FROM THE SLOPE, BASICALLY, THIS IS THE HIGH POINT ON THE SITE THAT YOU CAN SEE THERE.

THIS IS GOING TO BECOME MORE LEVEL WITH COTTON CREEK ENTRY COMING HERE.

AND THEN AS IT SLOPES DOWN YOU KNOW, WHAT'S WHAT'S NOT SEEN ON THE PLANS.

WE DID SUBMIT IT TO JILL AS PART OF THE PACKAGE THAT MICHAEL HAS.

WHAT'S NOT REALLY SEEN ON HERE IS WE HAVE MULTIPLE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT OUR WHAT'S CALLED OUR RV TODAY.

THE RUNOFF REDUCTION VOLUME PONDS THROUGH THERE.

SO WE HAVE MULTIPLE PLACES WHERE WE'RE SLOWING DOWN WATER.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE LARGER POND AT THE TOP.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE EXISTING LAKE. WE'RE TALKING WITH THE HOA THERE ABOUT MAKING SURE WE MAINTAIN IT AND BRING IT UP TO NEW STANDARDS.

SO WE HAVE MULTIPLE LAYERS OF PROTECTIONS FROM FROM THE CREEK COMING DOWN FOR THAT TOPOGRAPHY AS WELL AS WE'RE ABLE TO STEP THE TOWNHOMES DOWN.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE AND THE WAY IT'S ZONED TODAY, YOU JUST HAVE TO PLOP A BUILDING IN A GIANT WALL AND IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE DESTRUCTIVE.

SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO YOU CAN KIND OF SIT HERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT GETS REALLY STEEP.

WE'RE TRYING TO JUST STAY UP ON THIS RIDGE WITH OUR TOWNHOMES AND NOT DROP DOWN THAT STEEPER SLOPE.

AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO LOOK AT GRADING PLANS AND VERIFY WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IF I MISSED IT, PARDON ME. IS THERE A SIGNAL AT OLD MILTON? YES, SIR. OKAY. THERE'S ONE TODAY. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR.

ABDUL IS ALSO HERE TO TALK ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT WITH G DOT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THROUGH CONVERSATIONS WITH NEIGHBORS.

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NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION, BUT A COMMENT BASED ON SOME EXPERIENCE.

IN MY OWN COMMUNITY, WE HAVE A LOT OF GREEN SPACE THAT IS CONSIDERED PRIVATE IS MAINTAINED BY OUR HOA, HOWEVER, IS EASILY FOUND. JUST A COMMENT. BE PREPARED FOR THE NOTION THAT THIS GREEN SPACE WILL AGAIN BECOME A GATHERING PLACE FOR PEOPLE THAT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY WANT GATHERING THERE.

SO THAT WOULD BEG FOR SOME MEASURES TO BE PUT IN PLACE PERHAPS TO ASSIST THE HOA STARTING OUT SECURITY SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS, FLOCK CAMERAS, WHATEVER WOULD WORK. BUT POINT IS A HEADS UP THAT WILL BE AN ISSUE FOR THEM.

IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT COMMENT. ONE THING, ONE THING THAT HELPS US, BECAUSE THIS WAS A CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD IS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE TRAIL BEING HERE. AND IT'S REALLY KIND OF A, IF YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT THE TRAIL IS BACK THERE TO GET THERE.

THE OTHER THING TOO, WITH NOW HAVING HOMES THAT KIND OF OVERLOOK IT, THERE'S A, THERE'S AN EXISTING POLICING, THIS IS, THIS IS ALL KIND OF HIDDEN HERE WITH THE FOLIAGE RIGHT NOW.

AND SO THE HOPE HERE IS ONCE WE'RE ABLE TO BRING THIS IN, BRING IT UP TO LANDSCAPING, THAT THERE'S MORE, YOU KNOW, POLICING THROUGH THE HOA. BUT I TOTALLY GET IT THAT PEOPLE WILL FIND IT AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT.

AND SO IT'S A GREAT COMMENT THAT WE CAN NOTE FOLLOW UP COMMENT, THE POLICING, THE HOA AMOUNTS TO PULLING THEIR HAIR OUT.

YES, YES FOR SURE. THANKS. YOU MENTIONED SO MANY CHANGES THAT YOU TWEAKED OR MADE THAT GOT YOU EXCITED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, COMING TO TERMS WITH COLLABORATION WITH NEIGHBORS.

I'D LOVE TO HEAR A FEW OF YOUR HIGHLIGHTS OF CHANGES THAT WERE.

I'M SO GLAD. I'M SURE YOU ARE. WE'RE EXCITED TO HEAR.

WE HAVE A WHOLE LIST. JUST GIVE US A BRIEF. BUT YOUR TOP COUPLE WOULD BE.

SURE. SO CHANGES THAT WE MADE SINCE THE OUTSET.

WE STARTED OUT WITH 207 UNITS. WE'RE NOW AT 195.

WE ADDED A SECOND VEHICULAR ACCESS. WELL WE IF YOU CAN POINT TO THE CORNER THERE, WE ADDED A VEHICULAR ACCESS OFF OF COTTON CREEK GOING DIRECTLY INTO WHAT WERE, YOU KNOW, THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROJECT, THE TOLL PORTION OF THE PROJECT INTERSECTION THAT WAS NOT INITIALLY THERE.

AND THAT WAS A REQUEST BY THE STONERIDGE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THEIR MAIN ACCESS IS ONLY ON THE MIDDLE DRIVE, WHICH IS COTTON CREEK ENTRY. AND SO THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC BACKUP.

IF THE ONLY WAY THAT WAS GOING TO BE COMING INTO THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE WAS TO HAVE THE ONE ACCESS POINT.

SO WE ADDED AN ACCESS POINT THERE. WE LOWERED THE EXISTING GRADE.

SO WE STARTED OUT THE, THE, WE WERE WORKING WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY, THE EXISTING TOPOGRAPHY.

AND KEN ACTUALLY FIGURED OUT A WAY TO BRING THE GRADE DOWN SOME.

SO THAT FROM A HEIGHT PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS SITTING UP ON A RIDGE, BUT IT'S SITTING ON A BIT OF A LOWER RIDGE.

WE DID SOME STORMWATER MANAGEMENT CHANGES TO STRATEGIES TO SAVE TREES.

WE HAVE A LANDSCAPE PLAN WITH VARIOUS DECIDUOUS AND EVERGREEN MATERIALS.

WE ADDED MORE CENTRAL OPEN SPACES. WE ADDED THE SIDEWALK CONNECTION ON OLD MILTON PARKWAY TO CAMDEN WAY, WHICH IS THE CONDITIONS. WE ARE EXTENDING THE LEFT TURN LANE OFF ON OLD MILTON PARKWAY ONTO COTTON CREEK ENTRY.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS EXPRESSED AS A CONCERN ABOUT QUEUING TO GET INTO THE LEFT JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S BENEFIT.

THE ENTRY ON COTTON CREEK ENTRY IS THE ONLY ENTRY POINT INTO STONE RIDGE.

THAT'S HOW THEY GET IN AND OUT. THAT'S THEIR ONLY ACCESS.

BUT CAMDEN POND HAS THEIR OWN ACCESS ONTO OLD MILTON, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT SIGNIFIED OR SIGNALIZED.

THEY COME, THEY TAKE A RIGHT, THEN THEY TAKE A RIGHT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AND THEY TAKE A LEFT AND THEY WIND BACK AROUND TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT AT A TRAFFIC LIGHT. SO THIS, THIS TRAFFIC SIGNAL GETS USED BY BOTH COMMUNITIES.

WE INCREASE THE SETBACK. HERE'S A BIG ONE ALONG THE EASTERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY.

SO AS MR. WOODMAN INDICATED, THERE'S A FIVE FOOT LANDSCAPE STRIP AND A SETBACK THAT'S REQUIRED ALONG THERE.

WE INCREASED IT TO A 25 FOOT TREE SAVE AREA. SO UNDISTURBED TREE SAVE AREA AND THEN FROM PROPERTY LINE TO THE BUILDINGS WERE 60FT.

SO IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DISTANCE. IT'S BOTH PROPERTY LINES HERE.

YEAH. CAN YOU ALL SEE EVERYTHING AT THE HAND? OKAY. YEAH. AND THEN ANOTHER THING THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE ELEVATIONS ALONG THE EASTERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY AGAIN WE HAD BALCONIES THAT WERE PROTRUDING FROM THE UNITS.

AND SO ALL OF THE UNITS HAVE THE RECESSED BALCONIES.

AND SO THE LIGHTING COMES DOWN WHICH HELP TO ALLEVIATE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT POTENTIAL FOR NOISE AND OTHER OTHER CONCERNS FROM THE REAR OF THE UNITS.

SO I THINK, DID I MISS ANYTHING? SO JUST TO, JUST TO MAKE A, YOU KNOW, IN, IN GETTING COMMENTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS, WE'VE PAID SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THIS INTERSECTION.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE TURN LANES, BUT WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT, WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THE COMMERCIAL ABOUT BEING ABLE TO EXTEND THE LANE,

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THERE'S NOT REALLY A DEDICATED LEFT, AND WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE THAT LEFT.

AND THEN ALSO A RIGHT AND A RIGHT TURN AND THROUGH LANE.

SO REALLY PAID ATTENTION TO THAT. AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS YOU'LL NOTICE IS JUST THOSE END UNITS ALL THROUGH HERE, WHETHER THEY'RE ROOFTOPS HERE OR THEY HAVE CHIMNEYS THE BIG GREEN SPACES, THOSE ARE ALL PART OF THE PART OF THE CHANGES THAT WE HAD DONE ON THE PLAN.

THANK YOU. ONE LAST QUESTION. AND IT'S A BIG ONE.

THOUGHT GIVEN TO SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED AS OPPOSED TO ENTIRELY 195 TOWNHOMES.

THERE WAS THOUGHT GIVEN TO SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A VARIETY OF REASONS WHY THIS MAKES MORE SENSE.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S AN ECONOMIC REASON. THE LAND HAS A PRICE. IT'S ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE USE.

AND SO FROM A TRANSLATION INTO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THE NUMBERS, THEY JUST, THEY JUST DON'T WORK.

I KNOW, YEAH. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT JUST THE LOCATION ITSELF HAVING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES FRONTING ON OLD MILTON, ALMOST ADJACENT TO 400. ALSO, JUST FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, DOESN'T MAKE THE MOST SENSE.

YOU KNOW, FROM A TOPOGRAPHY PERSPECTIVE, AS KEN WAS MENTIONING, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY.

I MEAN, IT JUST THE WHOLE PROJECT. ALSO, IF YOU LOOK AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS AS BROOKSIDE NORTH AND BROOKSIDE TO THE SOUTH, IT JUST IT, IT WOULD BE INCONGRUENT WITH WHAT'S AROUND.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE AERIAL WE HAVE HERE, YOU SEE, WE'VE GOT THE CAR WASH AND ANDY'S FROZEN CUSTARD ARE THE TWO COMMERCIAL USES ALONG THE FRONTAGE. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TOWNHOMES AND THEN IT TRANSITIONS INTO CONDOS AND TOWNHOMES.

SO HAVING A SINGLE FAMILY NEST IN THERE WOULD ALSO FROM A LAND USE PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, BE A LITTLE AWKWARD.

WE'RE THE LOWEST DENSITY. YEAH. I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION A DIFFERENT WAY, BUT YOU ANSWERED IT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I OPEN THIS FOR PUBLIC? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, MICHAEL. TURN IT OVER TO THE TO THE BOARD.

ALL RIGHT. THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU AT THIS TIME.

THE BOARD CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

I'M GOING TO OPEN THE MEETING UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

AND WE START WITH THOSE IN FAVOR. AND WE HAVE TWO MINUTES, 47 SECONDS.

I THINK ONE HAS ALREADY SPOKEN. SO WE HAVE I HAVE TWO OTHER COMMENT CARDS.

OKAY. YOU CAN CALL THEM IN ORDER. TOM MAHON I'M SORRY IF I MISPRONOUNCED YOUR CLOSE ENOUGH.

ALL RIGHT. AND YOU HAVE THE ADDRESS AND YOU CAN STAY.

YES. 37, 3670 OLD MILTON PARKWAY. YES. TOM MOONEY, I'M THE PROPERTY OWNER AT 3670 OLD MILTON PARKWAY, OCCUPIED BY ANDY'S FROZEN CUSTARD AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THE VALVOLINE INSTANT OIL CHANGE.

YOU KNOW, INITIALLY I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THE SITE, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE, THE ROAD ABANDONMENT WITH THE CUL DE SACS AS WELL AS JUST THE CURRENT CONDITION WITH THE TREES.

WE DEAL WITH HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS REGULARLY ON THIS HILL BEHIND US.

SO FOR US TO SEE SOMETHING THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO TURN THIS INTO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE THERE LEGALLY IS REALLY NICE TO SEE.

ADDITIONALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE MET WITH THE DEVELOPER MULTIPLE TIMES ON THE SITE TO TALK THROUGH CONCERNS THAT I'VE HAD PERSONALLY THAT I CAN SAY THAT VALVOLINE HAS SAID AS WELL. AND FOR US TO TALK THROUGH AND SEE THOSE THINGS ADDRESSED AND FEEL HEARD WAS CERTAINLY MEANINGFUL TO US.

YOU KNOW, AS AN EXAMPLE WE HAD CONCERNS AS WELL AS I BELIEVE THE CURRENT TOWNHOMES BEHIND US HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT CONCRETE ENTRY AND CARS COMING SOUTH TO OLD MILTON PARKWAY.

IT'S HARD TO SEE ON THE TOPOGRAPHY MAPS, BUT THERE IS AN EXTREME HILL THERE AND CURRENTLY THERE IS NO STOP SIGN RIGHT THERE AT THE WATERS FERRY INTERSECTION AND THE ENTRANCE TO THE CAR WASH.

AND SO CARS THAT ARE COMING UP OVER THAT HILL HAVE CAUSED SERIOUS CONCERN FOR US, FOR CUSTOMERS LEAVING OUR BUSINESS.

FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE WALKING IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.

SO FOR US TO SEE THEM TAKE THAT AT A STOP SIGN, AS WELL AS ADDING THE SIDEWALKS AND CONNECTING THAT UP TO OLD MILTON AND THE G DOT PROJECT. YOU KNOW, WE ARE CERTAINLY VERY EXCITED TO SEE THAT.

AND TO ALLOW THOSE TO TRAVERSE UP AND DOWN THAT WITHOUT WALKING ON THE ROAD.

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WE HAVE 50S FOR THE NEXT SPEAKER. MICHAEL GREEN, 3172 LECONTE AVENUE, BROOKHAVEN, GEORGIA.

HELLO, EVERYONE. I REPRESENT PORTMAN, THE DEVELOPER FOR ACROSS THE STREET.

I JESSICA MENTIONED THIS EARLIER, BUT HAVING THE HOMES NEAR US, ESPECIALLY SOMEBODY THAT CAN WALK TO SOME OF THE RETAIL SHOPS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SET A HIGH STANDARD FOR IS A MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE TO US.

IT IS PART OF THE ACTUAL CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING WITH TENANTS RIGHT NOW ABOUT LEASING THOSE SPACES.

SO THEREFORE, WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF THE EMPIRE AND TOTAL TEAM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE IN FAVOR? SEEING NONE. ANYONE IN OPPOSITION. PLEASE COME FORWARD.

I HAVE I'M SORRY, ONE I HAVE TO READ AND THEN I HAVE ONE PERSON, BUT SHE ASKED TO GO LAST.

SO CAN I READ THE PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS FIRST OR SHOULD WE LET HER GO? LET'S SEE WHO IS AVAILABLE THAT DIDN'T GIVE YOU ANY COMMENT CARD.

AND THEN YOU CAN GO THROUGH WHAT YOU HAVE. OKAY, I HAVE MISS CUTLIP.

DO YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD? MY NAME IS DARLENE CUTLIP. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD AT CAMDEN ONE, AND I LIVE AT 3025 CAMDEN WAY.

CAN YOU MOVE THE MICROPHONE A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOU? SURE. THANK YOU. AS I'M REPRESENTING THE BOARD AS A WHOLE, BUT WE HAVE NOT TAKEN A STANCE AS A BOARD PER SE, BUT HAVE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD HAVE ATTENDED ALL FOUR MEETINGS WITH EMPIRE AND TOLL BROTHERS INSTRUCTION. IN ADDITION TO THE INITIAL MEETING MEET AND GREET HERE.

WE WERE FORTUNATE AT THAT TIME TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A ABBREVIATED PRESENTATION OF THE PROPOSAL AND ASK QUESTIONS.

AT THAT TIME, WE HAVE BEEN IMPRESSED WITH THE FACT THAT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, THE DEVELOPERS HAVE TAKEN QUESTIONS INTO CONSIDERATION AND HAVE MADE.

EXCUSE ME, CHANGES REGARDING THOSE CONCESSIONS AND CHANGES TO ACCOUNT TO ACCOMMODATE A LOT OF THOSE.

THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN EXPLAINED AT THE FOUR MEETINGS OFFERED BY THE DEVELOPERS AS A BOARD.

WE WERE DISAPPOINTED BY THE NUMBER OF OWNERS WHO ACTUALLY ATTEND CAN ACTUALLY ATTENDED.

TO GET MORE ACCURATE INFORMATION ON WHAT HAS BEEN CIRCULATED THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY WHICH DID NOT ACCURATELY PORTRAY INFORMATION AND ANSWERS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO THE ATTENDEES AT THE MEETINGS.

AND IT PLACED UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS ON THE DEVELOPERS THAT WERE NOT IN THE SCOPE OF THEIR REPRESENTATIVE DUTIES.

ALTHOUGH THE BOARD HAS NOT TAKEN A STANCE, WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS PERTAINING TO THE DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS WOULD PREFER THAT NOTHING BE DEVELOPED IN THAT PARCEL.

BUT WE ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT GIVEN THE POSSIBILITIES OF AN OFFICE, PARK OR OTHER BUSINESSES AS PRESENTLY ZONED, AND IF THERE WOULD MATERIALIZE, WE WOULD WOULDN'T HAVE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE OPINIONS OR ASK FOR CONCESSIONS OR CHANGES, AND WE COULD POSSIBLY BE FACED WITH DEVELOPMENT AND PARKING AREAS THAT COULD POSSIBLY ENCROACH FURTHER TOWARDS OUR PROPERTY.

THAT ALL BEING SAID, THE MAJOR OBJECTIONS THAT WE HAVE STILL BEEN HEARING FROM, DEVELOPED BY THE OWNERS TO THE DEVELOPMENT REMAINS REGARDING THE TRAFFIC AS ISSUES OF INCREASED CONGESTION AND WITH LIMITED EGRESS AND INGRESS AND THE TREE SAFE AREA. I DO WANT TO EXPRESS AGAIN, THE APPRECIATION OF THE BOARD HAS FOR THE DEVELOPER IN LISTENING AND TAKING OUR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.

I MYSELF AM AN IMPROVEMENT IN APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND FEEL OVERALL IT WILL INCREASE THE VALUES OF OUR PROPERTIES.

MA'AM, WHAT WAS YOUR NAME AGAIN? DARLENE CUTLET.

CUTLET CUTLIP AS IN PAUL. THANK YOU.

NEXT. MR. THOMAS, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK?

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MY NAME IS RAYMOND THOMAS. I AM A OWNER. CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE? ADDRESS IS 5047 AVALON DRIVE, ALPHARETTA, GEORGIA.

I AM AN OWNER OF OVER 30 YEARS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.

I CURRENTLY DO NOT LIVE THERE. MY MOM. YOU CAN ASK YOUR STEP BACK A LITTLE BIT.

THE MIC IS VERY LOUD. WE CAN HEAR YOU. YOU'RE DOING FINE.

I CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. YES. SO I CURRENTLY DO NOT ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE PROPERTY, BUT MY MOTHER LIVES THERE.

AND LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN A HOMEOWNER FOR OVER 33 YEARS.

I CAME TO THIS MEETING SOMEWHAT NEUTRAL. AND AFTER LISTENING I AM NOW INSTEAD OF OPPOSED.

I AM NOW IN FAVOR OF THE, OF THIS REZONING TO TO OUR TEN FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS, MANY OF THE OBJECTIONS RELATE TRAFFIC.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN ZONING, NOT IN THIS COUNTY, BUT IN COBB COUNTY AND GWINNETT COUNTY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. AND THERE IS NO SHORTAGE OF OBJECTIONS TO REZONING APPLICATIONS DUE TO TRAFFIC.

BUT I'M HERE TO TELL YOU, IF YOU LIVE IN ATLANTA, TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE ANY AND EVERYWHERE YOU GO, INCLUDING GWINNETT COUNTY AND COBB COUNTY. AND SO HERE'S WHY I NOW SUPPORT THIS, THIS, THIS REZONING APPLICATION NUMBER ONE TRAIL CONNECTIVITY NUMBER TWO SUSTENANCE OF THE EXISTING TREE AREA. I THINK THAT WAS A HUGE, HUGE AT LEAST IN MY MIND, A HUGE CONCESSION BY THE DEVELOPER IN THIS CASE AND NOT ONLY SAVING THE TREES, BUT THE AMOUNT OF WIDTH IN TERMS OF 25, 25 FOOT BUFFER AND, AND A 60 FOOT SETBACK.

SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE HUGE IN MY MIND. NUMBER THREE, QUALITY CONSTRUCTION AND, AND DESIGN DETAILS.

NUMBER FOUR, THIS, AS ONE GENTLEMAN SAID BEFORE ME, WILL HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND PROPERTY VALUES. NUMBER NUMBER SIX. WHEN I READ THE STAFF REPORT AND ALSO THE TRAFFIC REPORT, I WAS REALLY SURPRISED OF THE POSITIVE TRIP GENERATION IMPACTS THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO HAVE ON THE COMMUNITY.

AND LASTLY, WITHOUT QUESTION, THIS THIS PROPERTY WILL BE OR THIS DEVELOPED PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH WITH SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS, INCLUDING THE BRAND NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S JUST SOUTH OF, OF, OF OF, OF CAMDEN POND. SO I SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE AN UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE WE HAD SOMEBODY WHO WAS GOING TO SPEAK AGAINST SPEAKING IN FAVOR.

SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS HE SPOKE FOR THREE MINUTES AND 10S.

AND I'M GOING TO CREDIT THAT BACK TO THE TO THE APPLICANT.

SO YOU HAVE MORE TIME FOR REBUTTAL. NEXT QUESTION.

I HAVE SOME EMAILS TO READ, PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS FROM PEOPLE WHO AREN'T AT THE.

WEREN'T ABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING TONIGHT. BEFORE THAT, UNLESS THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAINST.

I SEE NO ONE. SO YOU CAN READ THEM NOW. FIRST ONE IS CHARLES SROUR3066 CAMDEN WAY.

MY NAME IS CHARLES SAUER. I'M IN AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER AT 3066 CAMDEN WAY.

I'M HERE TO DISCUSS COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN OUR FOUR YEAR OLD TWO STORY CAMDEN POND COMMUNITY AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

CAMDEN POND HAS 95 CONDOMINIUMS. ONLY FOUR UNITS HAVE THREE BEDROOMS. ALL OTHERS HAVE TWO BEDROOMS. WE HAVE 210 PARKING SPACES.

BY CONTRAST, THE DEVELOPER'S PROPOSAL WOULD ADD THREE STORY TOWNHOMES, EACH WITH 3 TO 5 BEDROOMS AND MORE THAN 825 PARKING SPACES, ABOUT A 400% DENSITY INCREASE. CLEAR CUTTING THE 40 YEAR OLD TREE CANOPY BEYOND THE 25 FOOT PRESERVED BUFFER, INCLUDING TREES UP TO 100FT TALL AND THEN REPLANTING 14 FOOT EVERGREENS AND PLACING THREE STORY HIGHER DENSITY OCCUPANCY.

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OUR BIGGEST CONCERNS ARE NIGHTTIME INDOOR LIGHTING IMPACTS RADIATING FROM THIRD FLOOR UNIT WINDOWS AND NOISE IMPACTS INTO CAMDEN POND BEDROOMS. WE REQUEST THE FOLLOWING TWO CONDITIONS A STEP DOWN TO TWO STORY BUILDINGS ALONG THE CAMDEN POND PROPERTY LINE, OR AN INCREASE FROM 60 FOOT TO 100 FOOT COMBINED TRANSITIONAL ZONE.

NO BUILD AREA FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. AND THEN IT JUST ASKS, WILL THE PLANNING COMMISSION INCLUDE BINDING WRITTEN CONDITIONS REFLECTING EITHER A TWO STORY BUILDING STEP DOWN ALONG THE CAMDEN POND PROPERTY LINE, OR 100 FOOT TRANSITIONAL NO BUILD ZONE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, SO THE FINAL APPROVAL IS ENFORCEABLE. ARE YOU READY FOR THIS? CAN I HAVE ANNE MARIE MARIN OF 366 CAMDEN WAY? MY NAME IS ANNE MARIE MARIN, AND I AM AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER AT 366 CAMDEN WAY IN CAMDEN POND.

I'M HERE TO RAISE SERIOUS TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY CONCERNS THAT ALL CAMDEN POND UNIT OWNERS WOULD FACE.

THE SECOND I AM STAFF REPORT SHOWS RESIDENTS MUST USE COTTON MILL AND COTTON CREEK ENTRY TO TRAVEL EAST ON OLD MILTON PARKWAY, WHERE LIMITED SIGHT DISTANCE PROBLEMS ALREADY EXIST DUE TO TERRAIN AND GRADE.

THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL INCREASE PEDESTRIAN AND AUTO COLLISION RISK, WITH A HIGH DENSITY GREATER THAN 800 VEHICLES IN PARENTHESES AND UP TO 101 CHILDREN FROM SCHOOL BUS STOPS, PLUS PEDESTRIANS TO AND FROM NEARBY STORES.

KEY DANGER POINTS INCLUDE A COMPLETELY BLIND TURN ONTO COTTON MILL PLACE, KNOX GATE EMERGENCY ACCESS AND DRIVEWAY NUMBER FOUR IN PARENTHESES AND LIMITED SIGHT DISTANCE AT INTERSECTION WITH COTTON CREEK.

ENTRY FROM BOTH A DESCENDING GRADE RIGHT SIDE AND A CREST VERTICAL CURVE LEFT SIDE.

CURRENT TRAFFIC IS ALREADY STRAINED. SPRING, SUMMER AND AUTUMN AND THE DEVELOPER'S SINGLE DAY WINTER STUDY DOES NOT REFLECT TYPICAL NINE MONTH HEAVY TRAFFIC OR ADDRESS ALL LIMITED SIGHT, DISTANCE AND GRADE TERRAIN ISSUES.

WE REQUEST THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS PERMANENTLY BLOCK OFF THE CURRENT KNOX GATE EMERGENCY VEHICLE ROAD.

REPOSITION DRIVEWAY NUMBER FOUR TO ENTER COTTON MILL PLACE FROM THE NORTH, NOT THE EAST, AND MAKE IT THE EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS ROAD.

REQUIRE AN INDEPENDENT CITY SELECTED TRAFFIC ENGINEERING CONSULTANT TO PERFORM LIMITED SIGHT DISTANCE FIELD VERIFICATION.

SUPPLEMENTAL SEASON SEASONAL MULTI-DAY COUNTS INCLUDING SCHOOL BUS PEAKS AND TURN MOVEMENT, INTERSECTION ANALYSIS, ADVANCE AND NUMBER FOR ADVANCE REZONING ONLY IF A THREE WAY STOP IS APPROVED AND CONFIRMED, NOT ASSUMED, AND SAFETY IS VERIFIABLY MET, INCLUDING SAFE SITE DISTANCE REQUIRING MITIGATION CONDITIONS OR DENIAL DEFERRAL UNTIL FIXED. THEN I HAVE MEGAN LYSTER OF 3996 CAMDEN WAY.

MY NAME IS MEGAN LYSTER. I'M A HOMEOWNER OF CAMDEN WAY AND SECRETARY OF CAMDEN POND.

TWO. THE CONCERNS I PRESENT ARE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND ACCESSIBILITY.

THE ROADS OF COTTON CREEK ENTRY, COTTON MILL PLACE AND COTTON CREEK CIRCLE PROVIDE ACCESS FOR A FEW THINGS.

THESE ARE THE EXISTING RETAIL SPACES, ENTRY AND EXITING FOR STONEBRIDGE RESIDENTS AND POTENTIALLY ACCESS TO THE GREENWAY AS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANTS.

WHILE THIS DEVELOPMENT CLAIMS TO INCREASE WALKABILITY, THE REALITY IS THAT LOCALS DON'T FEEL SAFE WHEN WALKING ALONGSIDE OLD MILTON PARKWAY.

IN PARTICULAR, USING PRESIDENT CROSS CROSSWALKS TO CROSS OLD MILTON PARKWAY OR COMPETING WITH MOTORISTS EXITING OFF OF THE ROAD AT HIGH SPEEDS.

THE BLIND TURNS AT COTTON MILL PLACE AND BLIND HILL ON COTTON CREEK ENTRY PRESENT SIGNIFICANT CONCERN.

THE INSURANCE INSTITUTE FOR HIGHWAY SAFETY AND THE CDC BOTH HAVE STATISTICS INDICATING SUBSTANTIAL RISKS OF PEDESTRIAN DEATHS OR INJURY IN SUCH AREAS, WITH ADJACENT COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE SPACE, MULTI-LANE ROADS AND SPEED LIMITS OF 30 MILES OR HIGHER.

THE I I, I FOUND SPEEDS OF 20MPH TO STILL POSE HIGH RISK OF MODERATE OR SERIOUS INJURY, REGARDLESS OF VEHICLE HEIGHT.

HIGHER SPEEDS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH INCREASED RISK OF INJURIES AT ALL SEVERITIES.

MEDIAN HEIGHT VEHICLES AND ESPECIALLY MEDIAN HEIGHT PICKUPS POSE THE LARGEST THREAT TO PEDESTRIANS, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN. THIS DATA SUGGESTS THAT THE PROPOSED PROPOSED GREENWAY ACCESS POINT WOULD NOT BE SAFELY ACCESSIBLE FOR ANY NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES ON FOOT.

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THIS WOULD BE THE LOCATION OF A STANDALONE OR SUPPLEMENTAL TRAIL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND STARTING AT OLD MILTON PARKWAY.

PUBLIC SIDEWALKS TO CONNECT WITH THE CUL DE SAC OF COTTON CREEK.

ENTRY. A SMALL CONNECTING PATH FOR CAMDEN POND RESIDENTS TO THIS TRAIL WOULD ALSO BE DESIRED.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THAT'S. THAT'S ALL. WE HAVE A MINUTE AND 30S LEFT.

ANYONE ELSE? LAST CALL. I'M GOING TO CLOSE. PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD. DOES THE APPLICANT SEE THOSE COMMENTS YET? YES. JUST. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'LL PULL THIS BACK UP.

SO JUST STARTING ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS KIND OF LOOKING AT THEM AND KIND OF GOING IN A, IN A SPECIFIC ORDER.

SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WERE ABOUT THE TREE CANOPY THAT MR. CHARLES HAD HAD BROUGHT UP THE PROPERTY LINE HEIGHT, THE TWO STORY BUILDINGS AND SOME OF THOSE WERE BROUGHT BACK WITH THE 100 FOOT BUFFER, KIND OF THE PROXIMITY. SO WE HAD CREATED. SO THE, THE AREA THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ON THIS COMMENT IS GOING TO BE THIS, THIS PORTION RIGHT HERE. SO CAMDEN POND SITS HERE AND THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD WERE ALONG THIS PROPERTY AND THIS PROPERTY LINE.

SO EARLY ON, WE HAD CREATED SOME EXHIBITS, AND I'LL DESCRIBE THESE TO YOU GUYS TO SEE.

OH, I REALIZED WE WERE RUNNING OUT OF TIME. SO ESSENTIALLY WE BROUGHT DOWN THE GRADE AND WE ALSO BROUGHT IT 60FT AWAY FOR THAT HEIGHT COMPATIBILITY.

SORRY, I DIDN'T THINK WE WERE ON THE TIME, BUT WE, WE'VE DONE BASICALLY LOOKED AT ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS AND CAN ANSWER ANY OF THESE FOR YOU BECAUSE WE'VE SATISFIED ALL OF THOSE. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO HEAR A RESPONSE TO THE OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

SO WE'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE TIME TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU. AWESOME. SO LOCATING THESE AND A COUPLE OF THESE, LIKE AS FAR AS THE SITE PLAN, THIS, THIS PORTION OF THE SITE PLAN HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED, BUT WE CREATED THESE SECTIONS FOR THE MEETING.

AND SO THE CURRENT SITE PLAN NOW THIS IS ALL 60FT ALL THE WAY DOWN.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE WE WERE. WE HAD UNITS MUCH CLOSER TO THE PROPERTY LINE.

ORIGINALLY, WHEN WE FIRST CAME IN, SINCE IT WAS A FIVE FOOT, FIVE FEET AND THEN TEN FEET FOR THE SETBACK.

OUR INITIAL PLAN WAS CLOSER TO 30FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE CLOSER TO THE 207 UNITS.

AND SO THAT REDUCTION WHERE WE'RE SITTING AT NOW, THE 195.

THE MAJORITY OF THOSE UNITS ACTUALLY CAME FROM THOSE COMMENTS BECAUSE AS WE SHIFTED AWAY FROM THAT 60FT, WE ALSO HAD HEARD THEIR COMMENTS ABOUT THE HEIGHT.

AND SO IN RESPONSE TO THAT, WE LOWERED THE GRADE WHEN WE FIRST CAME IN.

YOU CAN YOU CAN SEE WHAT THIS IS. NOW. THIS IS A SECTION BETWEEN CAMDEN OVER HERE ON THE LEFT AND OUR UNITS OVER HERE.

AND YOU CAN SEE WITH THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE TWO.

NOW WITH THE 60FT, THE PERCEPTION IS NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS.

AND WE LOWERED THAT GRADE ACTUALLY FOR THAT IN PARTICULAR INSTANCE.

SO THAT WAS THE COMMENT THAT WE GOT. AND WE RESPONDED IN THAT MANNER.

AND THEN THAT FURTHER ALLUDED TO THE THE REAR DECK.

AND SO THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, WELL, THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE A REAR DECK STICKING OUT. AND THAT'S WHEN TOM MADE THE CHANGE TO BRING THE DECK INSIDE THE UNIT, KIND OF FURTHER ENHANCING THAT AND THEN TALKING ABOUT THE LIGHTING THAT'S IN THE ZONING CONDITION FOR THAT.

THE QUESTION ABOUT THE 100 FOOT TALL TREES. SO WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE, IF YOU, IF YOU WALK THROUGH THE SITE AND JUST TO KIND OF BRING EVERYBODY BACK TO WHERE WE ARE FOR THE CURRENT SITE PLAN. JUST WAIT FOR IT.

I KNOW SO MANY SLIDES. SO ON THE CURRENT SITE PLAN, WHEN YOU'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE TALLER TREES, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE KIND OF SETTLED ON THAT 25 FOOT IS WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE, IF YOU'RE STANDING AT CAMDEN, IF YOU'RE STANDING AT STONE RIDGE, SOME OF THOSE THOSE FIRST TREES CLOSEST TO THE PROPERTY LINE ARE THE TALLEST ONES THAT YOU SEE THERE.

THE AREA HERE, RIGHT BEHIND THE POND ALONG HERE.

AND THEN ESPECIALLY AS YOU GO BACK ALL THROUGH HERE, AROUND THIS POND, ALL OF THIS BACKSIDE WHERE THE SLOPE IS, THAT'S WHERE IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORICAL PHOTOS, THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN LARGE TREES THERE.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE REALLY TALL TREES THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT.

WE ANSWERED A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE. SO WHEN YOU COME INTERNAL TO THE SITE IN THIS LOCATION AND THIS LOCATION, THAT'S WHEN THE TREES, YOU CAN TELL THE PINE TREES ARE MUCH SMALLER.

AND IN 99 WE'RE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT THAT'S WHERE THEY WERE CHOPPED DOWN.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE TREES ARE MUCH SMALLER. AND SO WE DEFINITELY LOOKED AT THAT FOR THEM.

I THINK SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF THE OTHER COMMENTS THAT CAME THROUGH IS ALL OF THESE THAT WE LOOKED IN TERMS OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

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THE GRADE WAS STEEP. WITH THE WAY OUR UNIT COUNT WAS SET UP WITH BRINGING IN THE 60 FOOT SETBACK, IT WASN'T UNTIL LATER WE WERE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT THAT THIS CONNECTION COULD WORK.

WE DROPPED UNITS, CREATED A PARK, BUT WHAT THAT ALLOWED US TO DO IN RESPONSE TO THIS COMMENT, IT TALKED ABOUT THE KNOX BOX EMERGENCY GATE. THERE IS THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN THAT IF YOU'RE SELLING OFF OF OLD MILTON AND YOU TURN TO THE RIGHT, IF THERE IS A ACCESS POINT RIGHT THERE, WHICH THERE WASN'T OUR PLAN UP UNTIL THE MOST RECENT PLAN, THAT IT WOULD BE SO SUDDEN THAT THERE WOULD BE PRONE TO ACCIDENTS AT THAT LOCATION, EVEN IF IT WAS A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT. AND SO THAT HAS BEEN CHANGED. SO THAT IS COMPLIANT WITH THAT COMMENT.

THAT IS A KNOX BOX SO NO RESIDENT CAN GO THROUGH.

ONLY YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN GO THROUGH AT THAT LOCATION.

IT ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE REPOSITIONING OF THE DRIVEWAY.

THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE THERE. WITH THAT, BASICALLY THAT DEAD END THAT'S THERE THAT HAS BEEN POSITIONED AT THAT LOCATION.

WE ALSO DID BASICALLY SITE DISTANCE PROFILES FROM DOWN HERE LOOKING UP.

WE HAVE MET WITH THE CITY. I KNOW, I KNOW GEORGE IS NOT HERE, BUT WE DID COME IN AND MEET WITH BRIAN AND TALK ABOUT THIS THREE WAY INTERSECTION AND THAT APPEARED TO BE FINE AND SOMETHING MUCH NEEDED.

THE SPEEDS DOWN HERE ARE MUCH SLOWER, BUT PEOPLE COME UP THE HILL PRETTY FAST OR COME DOWN THE HILL.

AND SO THIS WILL BECOME A THREE WAY STOP AT THIS INTERSECTION.

AND WE DID SIGHT DISTANCE PROFILES TO SHOW WE CAN CUT DOWN THE GRADE AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE VISIBILITY FOR THAT.

THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THOSE TURNING MOVEMENTS. AND I KNOW ABDUL IS HERE, BUT YOU KNOW, BESIDE THE COUNTS THAT WE DID GEORGIA DOT ALSO HAS COUNTS THAT THEY DID THROUGHOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ENTIRE YEAR IN TERMS OF WHAT WE LOOKED AT.

SO OUR TRAFFIC STUDY IS, IS ALL IN THE WAY WE LOOKED AT IT.

FROM THIS, I THINK THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT WE HAD ON THIS ONE WAS THE MITIGATION ABOUT THAT.

AND SO WE HAVE, WE, WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE CITY, WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT THREE WAY WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE APPROVED.

IT WOULD BE PART OF THE LDP THOUGH, IF APPROVED.

THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE ON HERE, AND I KNOW JESSICA'S GOT A COUPLE ON THIS ONE FOR THESE THE SIDEWALKS WERE DISCUSSED ON HERE OR THE LACK OF CONNECTIVITY WITHIN THAT IS WHAT WE HEARD WITHIN THAT COMMENT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.

AND SO WHEN YOU REALLY LOOK AT IT TODAY FROM THE FIRST MEETING, THERE WAS ACTUALLY A YOUNG MAN AND HE WAS FROM CAMDEN, AND HE TALKED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO GET ON HIS BIKE OR BE ABLE TO WALK AND SAID THAT IT'S DISJOINTED AND KIND OF THAT WAS THE COMMENT THAT LED US TO TALKING ABOUT.

AND NOW WE HAVE THE CONDITION THAT WE WILL MAKE THAT CONNECTION THERE.

AND SO WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, THERE WOULD BE A CONNECTION ALL ACROSS THE FRONT.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER CONDITION WITH ANDY'S COMING DOWN BY HERE NOW, EVERY EVERY ROADWAY THAT YOU SEE ON THE PLAN IS CONNECTED BY SIDEWALK OR CROSSWALK. AND SO I CANNOT, I CAN SAY THAT THE FRONTAGES, ALL OF THE PUBLIC ROADS, ALL OF THE ROADS BACK TO HERE AND THE TRAIL, EVERYTHING HAS A SIDEWALK THROUGH THE ENTIRE THING.

SO IT WILL BE COMPLETELY CONNECTED. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WERE, WE WERE STATING THAT THAT THAT WAS WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SATISFY THOSE COMMENTS THAT CAME UP FROM THERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M GOING TO STOP YOU THERE, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THE RUNOFF VOLUME REDUCTION POCKETS THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.

OH, SURE. THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, RUNOFF VOLUME REDUCTIONS, RUNOFF REDUCTION AT THE LITTLE PONDS.

OKAY. I CAN I CAN GO THROUGH THIS PLAN. OKAY.

IT WORKED. IT WAS WORTH A SHOT. IT'S GOT A REALLY BIG IT'S A BIG FOLDER UP THERE.

I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE IN THERE. OKAY. SO IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PLAN, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PLAN HERE.

SO THROUGH THIS COURTYARD WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT RUNOFF REDUCTION MEASURES IN THIS COURTYARD.

THIS IS A, THIS IS KIND OF A LID THAT SITS UP HERE.

WE HAD ONE THAT'S HERE AND ONE THAT'S AT HERE.

WE ALSO HAD ONE THAT WOULD COME IN BESIDE BACK HERE.

AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE HAD ONE IN THE COURTYARD ON THE TOP OF THE COURTYARD.

HERE WE HAD ANOTHER ONE INSIDE OF THIS COURTYARD.

WE HAD ONE ON THE BACK SIDE. THIS IS IT'S A LITTLE DECEIVING TO SEE THIS, BUT THOSE, THESE HOMES WITH THE 60 FOOT SETBACK AND THEN HOW BIG THE RIGHT OF WAY IS ON OLD MILTON. THEY'RE ALMOST 100FT BACK. SO THIS IS A HUGE EXPANDED AREA.

SO WE HAD ANOTHER ONE HERE AND ANOTHER ONE YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT RIGHT HERE BEHIND THIS HOME.

THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE POND. SO ALL OF THESE ARE GOING TO WORK IN CONJUNCTION BEFORE IT GETS TO THE POND.

AND THEN ALL OF THESE WOULD WORK IN CONJUNCTION BEFORE IT GETS TO THIS POND AND DISCHARGE.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WANT TO APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU MANAGED YOUR TIME, YOUR PRESENTATION.

THAT WAS VERY WELL DONE. AND I THINK WE WE GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION WITHIN A VERY SHORT TIME PERIOD.

YES, SIR. YES, SIR. I'M GOING TO OPEN THIS UP FOR.

TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION AND OR EMOTION, AND I WILL START BY ASKING MICHAEL A QUESTION.

ACTUALLY, PROBABLY MORE THAN ONE QUESTION. YOU PROBABLY DON'T NEED ALL THAT.

BUT JUST IN CASE SOME OTHERS ASK YOU MORE QUESTIONS.

HERE. THE FIRST QUESTION IS REGARDING THE VACANCY FOR OFFICE.

YEAH. WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE IN ALPHARETTA NOW APPROXIMATELY CITYWIDE I THINK WE'RE ABOUT 22, 21, 122% VACANT, WHICH IS STILL VERY GOOD COMPARED TO MOST JURISDICTIONS.

AND WITHIN THAT CORRIDOR OR MERTON FROM GEORGIA, 400, WELL, NORTH POINT PARKWAY, IS IT CONSISTENT? IS IT COMPARABLE TO THE REST OF THE CITY IN TERMS OF I DON'T KNOW IF KATHY MAYBE HAS INFORMATION.

I KNOW WE HAD SOME INFORMATION ON THAT BROOKSIDE AREA.

THAT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS IT CAN BE A PROBABLE AREA WAS IT WAS LIKE 36% AT BROOKSIDE.

AND THEN OF COURSE, WE WENT FORWARD WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT THE MIXED USE WITH PORTMAN.

SO OF COURSE WE THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO LOWER.

RIGHT NOW OUR HIGHEST VACANCIES ARE AROUND THE NORTH POINT AREA FOR OFFICE, THE GREAT OAKS AREA, I THINK IT'S 38%. NORTH POINTS AROUND 25%. BUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY IT'S LIKE 21, CLOSE TO 22.

AND THIS. AND THIS HAS BEEN CONSISTENT FOR APPROXIMATELY HOW, HOW HOW LONG? WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY THIS AREA IS NOW TRENDING WHERE THE VACANCY IS GOING TO BE LOWER.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ONCE THE, WITH THE PANDEMIC, IT'S BEEN SLOW TO COME BACK. WE ARE SEEING NEW LEASES, BUT THEY'RE VERY SMALL LEASES.

WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THE 50,000FT² PLUS LEASES.

THEY'RE MUCH SMALLER IN THE 10,000. SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S STAYED VERY HIGH VACANCY IN THAT AREA FOR A LONG TIME ON OLD MILTON PARKWAY.

THE NEXT QUESTION I HAD IS REGARDING GREEN GREENWAY ACCESS FROM BROOKSIDE PARK.

THERE IS AN ACCESS TO THE SOUTH SIDE NEAR NORTH POINT COMMUNITY TO THE GREENWAY RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN ON OLD MILTON ITSELF, THERE IS ONE THAT HAS STEPS, A LOT OF STEPS GOING DOWN TO THE TRAIL.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND THAT'S PART OF THE PORTMAN REDEVELOPMENT, THE MIXED USE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED.

WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT THEY PUT TOGETHER PHASE ONE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE PARK.

SO PHASE ONE IMPROVEMENTS ARE 3 MILLION, AROUND 3 MILLION.

THE TOTAL PARK IMPROVEMENTS ACROSS THE STREET WILL BE 5 MILLION.

BUT ONE OF THE THE PROJECTS IN THE FIRST PHASE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS, THE 3 MILLION IS THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ENTRANCE OFF OLD MILTON PARKWAY.

WE FOUND OUT THAT WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE PORTMAN MIXED USE PROJECT, A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THERE WAS A 30 ACRE PARK THERE BECAUSE THE ENTRANCE WAS, YOU KNOW, SO INDISTINCT YOU REALLY JUST COULDN'T FIND IT.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BE GIVEN IMPACT FEE CREDITS FOR THAT FIRST PHASE.

THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FUNDING FOR THE SECOND PHASE, BUT AS PROJECTS ARE APPROVED THAT HAVE A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, OF COURSE, WE WOULD GIVE THOSE IMPACT FEE CREDITS THAT EXCEED TO FINISH THAT PARK, BUT THERE WILL BE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS WITH WITH PHASE ONE AND THERE WILL BE PARKING AT BROOKSIDE PARK. THERE WILL BE.

AND OF COURSE, GEORGIA STATE IS THERE TOO. I MEAN, SO THE SCHOOL IS THERE.

I THINK SOMETIMES PEOPLE NOW PARK AT THE SCHOOL AND GET ON THE TRAIL.

BUT WITH PHASE TWO, THAT'S THAT. IF IT'S WHEN THERE'S FUNDING FOR PHASE TWO, THOSE TRAILS ARE LOCATED ON GEORGIA STATE.

AND SO THEY WOULD BE EXTENDED LIT. PEOPLE ASKED ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS CLEARING SOME OF THE DEBRIS BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF GROWN UP RIGHT NOW. SO THERE WAS, IT WOULD BE, THERE WOULD BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS.

NOW, I THINK THERE WAS A CONCERN REGARDING CROSSING FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF OLD MILTON TO THIS NEW GREENWAY ACCESS.

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I KNOW IT'S NOT THE BEST WAY FOR A ROAD LIKE THAT, BUT THEY CAN ACCESS THE TRAIL.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING WITH THIS. ON THE OTHER SIDE, THROUGH BROOKSIDE PARK.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO CROSS THE STREET. AND I THINK.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ENTRANCE TO THE PARK ITSELF OR THE ENTRANCE? THE THE INTERSECTION WITH AT BROOKSIDE. I THINK THEY HAD SOME IMPROVEMENTS SHOWN TO THE INTERSECTION.

AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT.

SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAKE IT BETTER FOR PEDESTRIANS.

BECAUSE WHEN, WHEN MICHAEL AND I HAD REACHED OUT, WE WERE WORKING ON THE BROOKSIDE PLAN SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

WE HEARD FROM SO MANY ON THE THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET THAT SAID WE WOULD COME OVER TO THE BROOKSIDE AREA IF IT WAS EASIER TO GET ACROSS THE STREET.

WE WOULD BIKE OVER THERE, USE SOME OF THE RESTAURANTS IF IT WAS, IF IT WAS EASIER TO ACCESS.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IMPROVEMENTS THAT THAT WOULD CREATE THAT EXPERIENCE.

WE'RE ACTUALLY ADDING. ANOTHER ACCESS WHICH WILL NOT HAVE ANY STEPS ON THE TRAIL FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT.

FOR MOSTLY THE WAY I SEE IT, IT'S GOING TO BE USED BY THE RESIDENTS WITHIN THAT AREA.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE MUCH PARKING AWAY FROM WHERE PEOPLE CAN SEE YOU PARK BEFORE THEY GET.

ON THE TRAIL, AND I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE JUST DRIVING IN THERE AND STANDING ON THE TRAIL.

THEY CAN DO THAT NOW ON THE GREENWAY ITSELF FROM MULTIPLE LOCATIONS.

BUT I, AND WE AGREE WE, WE DIDN'T RECOMMEND PARKING AT THE, AT THAT AREA, THE CUL DE SAC.

SO WE ALSO AGREE, I'M SURE YOU HAD THIS QUESTION.

I WAS GOING TO ASK IT, BUT YOU ASKED ABOUT SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED AND TOWNHOMES.

DID YOU HAVE CONSIDERATIONS FOR THAT. AND DID YOU ASK THAT QUESTION AND WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT IT? WE DID ASK THE QUESTION AND THE DEVELOPER SAID THAT THAT THE ONLY THE TOWNHOMES WOULD BE FEASIBLE AT THIS LOCATION.

BUT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT HOMES OF COURSE WE SEE, YOU KNOW, DETACHED, VERY SIMILAR TO ATTACHED BOTH OF THOSE OF COURSE.

IT'S JUST WHAT DOES THE CUSTOMER WANT TO BUY? BECAUSE WE, WE DO SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING INTO TOWNHOME VERSUS THE DETACHED BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE A LOT OF OUTSIDE YARD RESPONSIBILITY.

PLUS WITH HOUSING COSTS IT'S, IT'S, OF COURSE CAN BE CHEAPER.

NOT WITH THE ELEVATIONS, OF COURSE, THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING THEY WILL BE BE HIGHER END, BUT DIDN'T HAVE A CONCERN.

WE ALSO LOOK AT WHAT ARE SURROUNDING TYPES OF, OF HOUSING.

THERE'S A LOT OF TOWNHOMES. SO IT'S SIMILAR. I MEAN, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ZONING, YOU WANT TO PUT IN SOMETHING THAT'S SIMILAR TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

SO WE FELT LIKE IT WAS A SIMILAR USE THAT WOULD WORK IN THIS AREA.

AND WE SEE THEM THROUGHOUT THE CITY, OF COURSE, BECAUSE IN DOWNTOWN, ANYWHERE WHERE THERE'S WALKABILITY, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE.

YOU WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS WHERE IT'S IN A WALKABLE AREA, ESPECIALLY AN AREA THAT HAS ACCESS TO SO MANY PARKS AND A GREENWAY SYSTEM.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT CHANGING AN OFFICE ZONING TO ALLOW RESIDENTIAL, THE FIRST THING WE'RE LOOKING IS THIS A GOOD PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE? IS IT A PLACE WHERE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO PARKS AND TRAILS? SO IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA THEY DO, AND ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE STREET TO WITH WHAT'S COMING WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD YOU MAKE ON THIS IS THE LAST THING I'M GOING TO ASK YOU EXPLAIN TO THE AUDIENCE AND THOSE WHO MIGHT BE WATCHING THE LDP PROCESS THAT'S RELATED TO STORMWATER RATE INCREASE. YEAH. SO THE LDP OR LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT PROCESS.

SO IF THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL MOST LIKELY THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS WITH THE CITY WILL BE THE LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT. THAT IS WHERE THEY WILL SUBMIT THEIR SITE PLAN FOR APPROVAL.

THAT'S THAT WILL ALSO INCLUDE THEIR STORMWATER PLANS.

OF COURSE WITH STORMWATER YOU'LL HAVE YOUR HYDROLOGY STUDY THAT IS PART OF THE LDP REVIEW.

THAT WILL DETERMINE THE APPROPRIATE STORMWATER FACILITY TO SERVE THIS DEVELOPMENT.

LANDSCAPE PLANS, EROSION CONTROL PLANS. THOSE ARE ALL ASSOCIATED WITH THE LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT.

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THE APPLICANT CAN THEN BEGIN CLEARING AND GRADING OF THE PROPERTY.

AND ONCE THEY HAVE THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE INSTALLED, THEY CAN DO A FINAL PLAT AND THEN START SUBMITTING FOR THEIR INDIVIDUAL BUILDING PERMITS FOR THE TOWN HALL BUILDINGS. THANK YOU.

ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. AND THE BOARD CAN COME OVER AND ASK.

I MEAN, CAN COME BACK AND ASK YOU MORE QUESTIONS. I WAS JUST GOING TO EXPRESS MY POSITION AT THIS POINT, AND THEN I'LL BE QUIET AND LISTEN TO EVERYBODY ELSE.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SIT DOWN. WELCOME TO DO SO. MAKE YOURSELF COMFORTABLE.

YES. ALL THINGS CONSIDERED, THIS LOOKS TO ME LIKE A REASONABLE DEVELOPMENT.

THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER IN THE CITY'S AND THE PUBLIC'S BEST INTEREST.

AND IT'S ALSO FAIR TO NOT ONLY THE PUBLIC, BUT TO THE APPLICANT.

THE TREND WE ARE SEEING. AND IT'S NOT JUST HERE IN FLORIDA, BUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, IS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO WORK FROM HOME.

THEY WANT TO HOME OFFICE BALANCE. WE HAVE ATTRACTED A LOT OF HIGHLY COMPENSATED YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, BUT THEY HAVE AN AFFORDABILITY PROBLEM WITH SINGLE FAMILY.

AND FRANKLY, THEY DON'T WANT TO BUY SINGLE FAMILY BECAUSE OF MAINTENANCE CONCERNS.

AND IF OUR CITY IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP AND SELF-SUSTAIN ITSELF IN TERMS OF PROVIDING PUBLIC SERVICE AND OTHER AMENITIES WE'VE GOT TO ACCOMMODATE THEM. WE CAN EITHER DO THAT THROUGH APARTMENTS, WHICH WE DON'T LIKE A LOT OF, OR WE CAN DO TOWNHOMES OR SINGLE FAMILY. THIS KIND OF LOOKS TO BE LIKE THE MEDIUM OF ALL OF THOSE.

SECOND, WITH GEORGIA STATE, WE HAVE NOW BROOKSIDE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING AROUND THIS AREA.

IT'S WALKABLE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, PARKS AND TRAILS AND GREENWAYS EVERYWHERE.

THAT'S ONE THING WE LOVE ABOUT ALPHARETTA IS THAT WE ARE CREATING A HEALTHY COMMUNITY.

WE LIKE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT WITH THEIR KIDS AND WALK AND HAVE FUN AND ENJOY LIVING IN THIS CITY AND UTILIZE ALL THESE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED WITH RESPECT TO TRAFFIC.

CURRENTLY WITH OUR OFFICE, THERE IS THERE WOULD BE A HIGHER PEAK TRAFFIC FLOW BOTH IN THE MORNING AND IN THE EVENING.

WHAT I SAW IS THAT THERE IS A ONE, 1 OR 3% REDUCTION IN TRAFFIC FROM OFFICE TO RESIDENTIAL DURING THE AM PEAK HOUR AND 105% DECREASE.

IT WAS 113. SORRY FOR AM 105 DECREASE. AM I, AM I SAYING THIS CORRECTLY IN PM? YES. OKAY. PERFECT. THE THE OWNER HAS A RIGHT RIGHT NOW TO PUT OFFICE WITHOUT EVEN COMING HERE.

THEY CAN BUILD AN OFFICE AND PUT ALL THAT TRAFFIC THERE AND NOT HAVE TO DO ANY IMPROVEMENT BECAUSE EVERY PROPERTY OWNER HAS A RIGHT. THEY HAVE A BUNDLE OF RIGHTS THAT THEY CAN UTILIZE.

SO BY REDUCING THAT AND ACCOMMODATING A TREND WE ARE SEEING IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT NEEDS IN THE CITY PUTS ME IN A POSITION TO SUPPORT THIS APPLICATION FOR THAT PURPOSE. THE QUESTION WE ALWAYS ASK OURSELVES WHEN WE DO A COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, AMENDMENT OR MASTER PLAN IS WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES? AND I USE THE CRITERIA OF IT'S GOING TO BE SO COMPELLING, WHICH MEANS YOU CAN'T MISS IT.

AT THE MOMENT, I CAN'T, I'M TRYING. I'M STRUGGLING TO FIND A COMPELLING REASON TO NOT SUPPORT THIS APPLICATION.

I SAID ALL THAT TO SAY THAT I THINK IT'S A GOOD PRODUCT AT THE RIGHT TIME FOR THE CITY, AND I THINK THE APPLICANT AND THE DEVELOPER HAS REALLY GIVEN SUBSTANTIAL ACCOMMODATION TO THE TO THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO ENHANCE THIS SIGNIFICANTLY, THIS AREA, AND I'LL BE SUPPORTING IT UNLESS I HEAR OTHERWISE FROM THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS.

THANK YOU. I'LL BE QUIET AND I'LL LISTEN TO YOU.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND SHARE MY THOUGHTS. I THINK AT THE TOP OF THE LIST, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CERTAIN STANDARDS THAT WERE HELD TO WHEN CONSIDERING ZONING

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AND I THINK IN THIS CASE IT IS WHICH, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE RESIDENTIAL AND KIND OF THAT HYBRID TOWNHOME CONDO PRODUCT TO START WITH. SO I THINK IT, I THINK IT PASSES THAT TEST SIMILAR TO WHAT THE CHAIRMAN SAID IT IS A FACT THAT 195 TOWNHOMES WILL PRODUCE A LOT LESS TRAFFIC THAN BIG OFFICE TOWERS THERE.

SO I THINK THAT'S A BENEFIT OF THIS PLAN. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO CALL OUT IS I LIKE HOW THE DEVELOPER LISTENED TO INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY. ALL OF US HERE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS QUITE A WHILE AND WE, WE DON'T ALWAYS HEAR THAT, YOU KNOW. IT'S THERE ARE SOME DEVELOPERS OUT THERE THAT THEY HAVE A PLAN IN MIND.

THEY HAVE A POINT OF VIEW IN MIND THAT'S OFTEN BASED ON EXPERIENCE AND PREVIOUS BUILDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE A OUTWARD FACING BALCONY OR RECESSED BALCONY, OR THEY'RE NOT GOING TO OFFER UP 25FT OF UNDISTURBED BUFFER WHEN THE REQUIREMENT IS ONLY FIVE OR ACTUALLY ZERO RESIDENTIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.

SO I REALLY, REALLY WANT TO CALL OUT THAT AND AT LEAST LET THE PUBLIC KNOW.

WE DON'T ALWAYS SEE THAT LEVEL OF COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THEIR FUTURE NEIGHBORS.

THE OTHER THING I LIKE ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE, AND I DON'T TAKE IT FOR GRANTED, ARE THE SIX DIFFERENT TOWNHOME TYPES.

YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT THIS NEW PRODUCT TO LOOK LIKE A ROW OF MILITARY BARRACKS WHERE THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME.

THERE YOU SAW FROM THE. THEY MIGHT HAVE SET A RECORD FOR THE NUMBER OF RENDERINGS.

AS FAR AS ALL THE DIFFERENT STYLES AND THE. AND THE MATERIALS AND THE ARCHITECTURE AND THAT KIND OF THING.

SO I WAS IMPRESSED WITH THAT AS WELL. AND I HOPE THE THE COMMUNITY IS ALSO.

AND THEN FINALLY, I JUST THINK CONSISTENT WITH THE 2040 COMP PLAN, WHICH THAT'S A PLAN THAT ALL CITIES LIKE US DO WHERE THEY PLAN OUT TO THE FUTURE, THEY LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY, WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS, WHAT THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT IN THIS CASE ACROSS ALPHARETTA.

BUT THAT COMP PLAN CALLS FOR OLD MILTON PARKWAY EAST OF 400.

IT CALLS FOR REDEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA AND TO HAVE MIXED USE PATTERNS, WHICH MEANS IT'S GOT A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL, OFFICE, COMMERCIAL. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

AND IT'S ALMOST A MIRROR OF WHAT DEVELOPMENT HAS TAKEN PLACE AND HAS STARTED ON THE SOUTH END OF OLD MILTON.

SO I THINK IT'S COMPLIMENTARY TO THAT. SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I'M IN A POSITION TO SUPPORT THIS.

I WANT TO HEAR WHAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS SAY, BUT THAT'S MY POINT OF VIEW.

OKAY. YOUR TIME. SURE. I WAS HOPING WE WOULD HAVE A A MOTION, BUT SINCE WE'RE NOT YET I WILL ADD ON TO THE COMMENTS. ONE COMMENT IF I CAN. YEAH, WE CAN STILL DISCUSS.

OKAY. I THINK I AM MORE FAMILIAR WITH NOT THE NEIGHBORS FROM BOTH, BOTH SUBDIVISIONS BORDERING IT.

ONE IS BECAUSE I'VE LIVED IN MY HOUSE OVER 30 YEARS.

I LIVE IN PARK BROOK AND WE HAD A, WE HAD A, THE WEBS PROPERTY THAT WAS BETWEEN US AND THE OTHER SUB-DIVISION. THE WEB OWNED THE PROPERTY AT THAT TIME FOR OVER 100 YEARS.

YEAH, WE ENJOYED THE THE TREES. THERE'S NO QUESTION.

COULD HAVE PROBABLY DONE WITHOUT ALL THE DEER, BUT WE LIVE WITH THAT.

AND SCOTT LITT, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

WE WANTED THE SAME THING. WE WANTED IT TO STAY GREEN FOR THAT PURPOSE.

AND I WAS VERY INVOLVED WITH WITH WITH PARK BROOK.

ONE IS BECAUSE I'VE LIVED THERE. TWO, I USED TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA.

THREE I WAS YOUR CITY COUNCILMAN FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS, AND I'VE DEALT WITH ZONING CASES.

AND I TOLD THEM, IF WE WANT IT TO BE GREEN, I'M SURE THEY'LL SELL IT TO US FOR A PRICE WHICH NONE OF US WANTED TO PUT UP.

AND KEEP IN MIND, WE'RE 300 HOMES. AND WHAT I WILL SAY, IRONICALLY, ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS ARE HERE TONIGHT, TOLL BROTHERS, THAT'S WHO BUILT THEIR NEXT TO US.

AND A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS THAT YOU GUYS WANT, WHICH IS BUFFERS, THINGS OF THAT SORT, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR HOMES THAT WENT ALONG THAT

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HOWEVER, THERE ARE 38 HOMES THAT PROBABLY STARTED AT $1.2 MILLION.

SO THEY WERE BIG HOMES AND WE HAD PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE TALKED HAVE BEEN IN THERE SINCE THE BEGINNING.

WHAT I WILL TELL YOU FROM A TOLL BROTHERS STANDPOINT IS THEY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THEY'VE TOLD US THEY WOULD DO.

HAS THERE BEEN SOME MINOR PROBLEMS, SOME MINOR DRAINAGE ISSUES? YEAH, BUT THEY'RE QUICK TO TRY TO FIX IT. THE OTHER THING AS FAR AS ADDITIONAL PARKING, AND I KNOW ON THE SURFACE THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ENTRANCE TO THE GREENWAY. WELL, IF YOU EVER BEEN TO PARK BROOK, WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST ONES TO HAVE A CONNECTION FROM OUR SUBDIVISION TO GREENWAY, AND IT'S IN THE BACK OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THE TENNIS COURTS ARE.

WE ALSO HAVE A PARK BACK THERE, PROBABLY HAVE 15 PARKING SPOTS FOR TENNIS, WHICH IS WHO USUALLY USES IT.

WE DO NOT HAVE PEOPLE PARKING DOWN THE STREET TO GET ON THE GREENWAY, BECAUSE OUR NEIGHBORS, US, WERE THE ONES THAT DO IT AND WE WALK ON IT.

BUT I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN BECAUSE YOU GUYS DON'T YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT.

I HAD TO LIVE IT. I STILL LIVE IT AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

YOU KNOW, THE ADDITIONAL PARKING. I MEAN, THEY'RE BUILDING 56 ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOTS.

IS THAT GOING TO TAKE IT ALL UP AND IN PARKING ON THE LEFT SIDE, RIGHT SIDE OF THE STREET? I CAN TELL YOU, IF YOU GO INTO PARK BROOK, WHICH IS A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE WHAT SEEMS TO BE WIDE STREETS, BUT PEOPLE PARKING ON BOTH SIDES. ONLY ONE CAR IS GOING DOWN THE MIDDLE, EVEN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, SO I THE CONCERNS ARE WELL FOUNDED. THE GOOD NEWS IS I'VE ACTUALLY SEEN THE DEVELOPER WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. BE THERE AND LISTEN TO US. JUST THE COMMENTS I'VE HEARD TONIGHT.

AND SO WITH THAT SAID MAKE SURE I COVERED ALL OF IT.

NOT A BIG FAN OF FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS, BUT I'LL LIVE WITH IT.

I'M FOR A LOT OF REASONS. YOU GUYS PROBABLY HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE HAVE THIS NEW MOTOR SCOOTER THING WHERE THEY FLY LIKE MAD ON THE SIDEWALKS. YOU KNOW, BUT IF FIVE FOOT IS WHAT I'M RESTRICTED TO, THEN THEN WE NEED TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.

BUT I, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD DEVELOPMENT. THE LAST THING I WANT TO SEE THERE, THE TWO, THREE STORY OFFICE BUILDINGS WITH 150 PEOPLE. BECAUSE LET ME TELL YOU THIS, I LISTEN, I LIVE THE TRAFFIC THING.

OUR STAFF WHO WAS HERE WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL KNOWS BECAUSE I HAD TO DEAL WITH OLD MILTON PARKWAY.

AND STILL TO THIS DAY, EVERY DAY WITH THAT TRAFFIC IS LIKE.

AND WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS A 9 TO 5 BUILDING.

YOU JUST ADDED ABOUT 150 CARS AT 9:00 IN THE MORNING AND AT 5:00, 530 WITH PEOPLE IN HOUSES OR TOWNHOMES IT'S GOING TO BE LESS.

I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU. IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT LESS. IT'S GOING TO BE LESS. AND SO THE OTHER THING IS, IS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH THIS CITY, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE MANY, IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND BOTH OF THE DEVELOPERS HAVE EXCELLENT REPUTATIONS IN THE METRO ATLANTA AREA.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE 400,000, BUT THERE'LL BE SOME KIND OF ALTERNATIVE.

AND FOR, FOR THE LACK OF BETTER THINGS IT GIVES OUR KIDS AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST COME BACK HERE AND LIVE.

I MEAN, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE WHEN WE CREATED LIVE WORK, PLAY THE BANNERS THAT YOU SEE IN ALPHARETTA, THERE WAS ACTUALLY A FOURTH WORD, BUT WE COULDN'T PUT IT ON THE BANNER.

IT WAS CALLED STAY. LIVE, WORK, PLAY, STAY. WE WANTED OUR KIDS TO BE HERE, AND THAT'S A TOUGH THING RIGHT NOW. THE PRICING IS ONE OF THEM.

I TOLD THESE GUYS I WRITE ARTICLES FOR THE PAPER.

MY ARTICLE THIS WEEK WAS IT'S NOT INTEREST RATES.

IT'S PROPERTY VALUE. PROPERTY VALUE IS WHAT'S SLOWING TODAY.

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I'M NOT GOING TO EVEN GO TO THE THREES. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AND BY THE WAY, JUST A STATISTIC.

THE AVERAGE HOUSE IN METRO ATLANTA SINCE 2020 TO 2025 HAS INCREASED BY $200,000.

IT'S AVERAGE. YOU TAKE THAT ONCE WAS $300,000 HOUSE TO 500,200 $200,000 DIFFERENCE. THAT'S A $1,500 A MONTH PAYMENT DIFFERENCE.

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN. FOR TODAY'S RATES IN THE MID 60S IT'S ANOTHER 300 400 MAYBE 500.

CERTAINLY NOT 1500. SO ANY TIME THAT WE CAN ENCOURAGE OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSING OR FOR.

I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE RENT HOUSES OUT FOR OWNED HOUSING.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF STATISTICS ON THAT AS WELL.

IT MAKES OUR COMMUNITY BETTER. IT CERTAINLY MAKES OUR EDUCATION BETTER.

AND WHAT YOU'LL FIND WITH OWNER OCCUPIED OR FOR OWNED HOMES LESS CRIME.

SO I AM YOU SAID I CAN MAKE A MOTION. YES. ALL RIGHT.

WITH THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE MP DASH DASH 26-03 EMPIRE OLD MILTON. PARKWAY. KIM. POND.

WITH STAFF CONDITIONS. SECOND. MOTION SECONDED.

PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION? HEARING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OPPOSED? NO MOTION CARRIES. IT'S GOING TO BE HEARD ON 17TH.

ON AUGUST THE 17TH. AND AS I MENTIONED, ARIA CITY COUNCIL MAKES THE FINAL DECISION.

SO PLEASE COME BACK. AND WE FACILITATED THE PROCESS.

AND WE RECOMMEND THEY APPROVE THE THEY MAKE THAT FINAL DECISION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING. THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. GOOD NIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.