Aug 17, 2026 City Council

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GOOD EVENING

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

IT IS SIX 30, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN PUBLIC HEARING FOR AUGUST 17TH, 2026.

CALL THIS TO ORDER NOTE FOR THE RECORD ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL PRESENT AND ACCOUNTED FOR.

AND AS ALWAYS, WE BEGIN OUR MEETINGS WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

SO IF YOU'RE WILLING AND ABLE, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN US.

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

SO THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA

[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF THE MOTION AND, OH, EXCUSE ME, CONSISTS OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FROM THE MEETING OF AUGUST 3RD, 2026.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE ANYTHING FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL? SO MOVED.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN REEVES.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DORITO.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE YES.

AND IT DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY.

SO WE'LL MOVE ON

[A. Announcement of Public Hearing Procedures]

AND TO BEGIN, I'D LIKE TO HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY, MOLLY ESWINE, ANNOUNCE THE PROCEDURES FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

HERE, AN INDIVIDUAL REQUESTING TO BE HEARD ON A MATTER RELATED TO THE PURPOSE OF THE HEARING MUST BE RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR.

BEFORE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, UPON RISING TO SPEAK, THE SPEAKER MUST IDENTIFY HIMSELF OR HERSELF AND FURNISH A HOME OR BUSINESS ADDRESS.

BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH ANY COMMENTS OR REMARKS, THE COUNCIL WILL ALLOW PROPONENTS A TOTAL OF 10 MINUTES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF AN APPLICATION.

OPPONENTS WILL BE ALLOWED 10 MINUTES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

COMMENTS ARE ACCEPTED FIRST FROM THE APPLICANT, FOLLOWED BY PERSON SPEAKING IN FAVOR.

AND THEN FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION UPON CONCLUSION OF ANY OPPOSING COMMENTS OR PRESENTATIONS, THE MAYOR WILL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO OFFER REBUTTAL IF ANY TIME IS REMAINING IN THE ORIGINALLY ALLOTTED 10 MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MS. SWIN.

AND THE FIRST ITEM UP

[B. MP-26-05/CLUP-26-03/Z-26-03 Empire Old Milton Pkwy/Camden Pond
Consideration of a master plan amendment, comprehensive land use plan amendment,  and rezoning in order to construct 202 ‘For-Sale’ townhomes on 29.2 acres. A master plan amendment is requested to the Camden Pond Master Plan to allow for the proposed change in development mix. A comprehensive land use plan amendment is requested from ‘Professional Business Office’ to ‘High Density Residential’ and a rezoning is requested from CUP (Community Unit Plan) to R-10M (Dwelling, ‘For-Rent or ‘For-Sale’ Residential. The property is located at 3842 Old Milton Parkway and is legally described as being located in Land Lots 2, 3, 44, 45 & 49, 1st District, 1st Section, Fulton County, Georgia.]

MR. WOODMAN, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE FLOOR THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

THE FIRST ITEM BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS A REQUEST FOR MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT, COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, AMENDMENT AND REZONING THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF 195 4 SALE TOWN HOMES.

THE PROPERTY IS 29.24 ACRES.

THE, UH, EMPIRE COMMUNITIES WOULD DEVELOP THE WESTERN HALF OF THE PROPERTY AND TOLL BROTHERS WOULD DEVELOP THE EASTERN HALF OF THE PROPERTY.

THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT IS TO THE CAMDEN POND MASTER MASTER PLAN TO CHANGE THE USE OF THE PROPERTY FROM OFFICE TO RESIDENTIAL.

COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT IS FROM PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS OFFICE TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AND THE REZONING IS FROM CUP COMMUNITY UNIT PLAN TO R 10 M PROPERTY.

UH, THIS IS THE, UH, LOCATION MAP IS ON THE OVERHEAD.

THE LOCATED AT 38 42 OLD MILTON PARKWAY.

AND THE PROPOSED DENSITY WITHIN THIS TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE 6.66 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

ITS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.

UH, SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE CAMDEN POND AND STONE RIDGE TO THE EAST, THE BIG CREEK AND GREENWAY, AS WELL AS PRESTON RIDGE PARK, ARE LOCATED TO THE NORTH OLD MILTON COMMONS OFFICE.

CONDOMINIUMS ARE LOCATED TO THE WEST AND THE FUTURE PORTMAN BROOKSIDE.

MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTH.

AS I MENTIONED, THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE

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THE CAMDEN POND MASTER PLAN WAS APPROVED IN 1984.

IT ALLOWED A MIX OF HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL STONE RIDGE AND CAMDEN POND.

UH, SUBDIVISIONS WERE DEVELOPED, UH, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE MASTER PLAN.

UH, GENERAL COMMERCIAL OR C TWO USES WERE APPROVED IN THE AL PARCELS ALONG OLD MILTON PARKWAY AND THE, UH, UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY.

THE SUBJECT OF THIS REQUEST IS APPROVED FOR OFFICE INSTITUTIONAL USES.

THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S SITE PLAN.

THE SITE PLAN, OF COURSE, HAS A HUNDRED NINETY FIVE FOUR SALES TOWN HOMES.

PO A IS ON THE, THE WEST SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S THE SIDE THAT, UH, EMPIRE WOULD DEVELOP.

UH, PO A CONSISTS OF 105 TOWN HOMES THAT IS WITHIN 20 BUILDINGS.

THEY'RE ALL THREE STORY ON THE WEST SIDE.

33 OF THE BUILDINGS WOULD BE FRONT LOADED.

72 WOULD BE REAR LOADED.

THE EASTERN HALF OF THE PROPERTY, POD B WOULD BE DEVELOPED BY TOLL BROTHERS.

THERE ARE 94 SALE TOWN HOME UNITS AND 17 BUILDINGS.

AGAIN, THREE STORIES, 26 UNITS ARE FRONT LOADED AND 64 UNITS ARE REAR LOADED.

THE TOWN TOWNHOMES ON BOTH POD, UM, A AND B, UH, HAVE A VARIETY OF 20 TO 24 FOOT WIDE TOWNHOMES.

AND WITHIN THIS SITE PLAN, THE STREAM BUFFERS AND FLOOD PLAIN ASSOCIATED WITH BIG CREEK ARE DEPICTED IN THE HATCHED AREAS.

AND THE DEVELOPMENT DOES RESPECT THOSE BUFFERS.

AND FLOODPLAIN, UH, ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY WILL CONTINUE FROM THE, UH, COTTON CREEK ENTRY OFF OF OLD MILTON PARKWAY, UH, WATERS FERRY WAY.

AND ON THE EAST SIDE COTTON MILL PLACE.

WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A SERIES OF STREETS AND ALLEYS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, IDENTIFIED IN THE SITE PLAN THAT WOULD SERVE THE TOWN HOMES ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND ADJACENT TO CAMDEN POND, THERE IS A LARGER 60 FOOT SETBACK AS WELL AS A 25 FOOT UNDISTURBED TREE SAFE STRIP ALONG THAT PROPERTY LINE.

AND THAT WAS DONE BY THE, THE APPLICANT IN ORDER TO ADDRESS CONCERNS THAT WERE VOICED BY RESIDENTS IN CAMDEN POND AND STONE RIDGE.

OPEN SPACE WITHIN THE SITE PLAN AMOUNTS TO ABOUT JUST UNDER 13 ACRES, 12.85 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE.

THE ZONING WOULD REQUIRE JUST 4.39 ACRES OR 15% TO BE SET ASIDE AS OPEN SPACE.

SO THEY DO EXCEED THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IN POD A.

SO THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THAT SIDE, THAT SIDE IS CLOSER TO THE BIG CREEK.

UH, THAT INCLUDES A CLUBHOUSE WITH POOL AND MALE KIOSK.

THERE'S COMMON SPACE THROUGHOUT THAT SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT SIDEWALKS.

THERE IS A TRAIL CONNECTION, UM, THAT WOULD TAKE YOU UP TO ACROSS THE BIG CREEK AND OVER TO PRESTON RIDGE PARK AS WELL AS THE YMCA.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT CONNECTION HERE.

AND THEN THERE ARE SOME LARGER OPEN SPACE AREAS WITHIN THAT POD AS WELL.

AND THEN POD B, THE EAST SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES A PLAZA AS WELL AS THE 60 FOOT, UH, STRIP, WHICH REPRESENTS THAT BUILDING SETBACK, UH, THAT WOULD BE MAINTAINED AS OPEN SPACE.

THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIRES ONE PARKING SPACE FOR EACH BEDROOM.

UH, THERE WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 585 PARKING SPACES REQUIRED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THE SITE PLAN, UH, IS SHOWING THAT EACH OF THE TOWN HOMES WILL HAVE TWO SIDE-BY-SIDE PARKING SPACES IN A GARAGE, AS WELL AS TWO SPACES ON A CODE COMPLIANT DRIVEWAY FOR A TOTAL OF 708 80 SPACES.

AND THEN THERE ARE ADDITIONAL 56 GUEST SPA SPACES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT AS IT RELATES TO TREES.

LET ME TAKE YOU TO A TREE SAVE PLAN.

AGAIN, I MENTIONED THERE IS A 25 FOOT, UH, TREE SAVE SLASH BUFFER ALONG THE EAST AND NORTH SIDE OF POD B ADJACENT TO CAMDEN POND.

TREES WILL BE SAVED WITHIN THAT 25 FOOT STRIP, AND THEN ADDITIONAL TREES WILL BE SAVED AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY HERE, AS WELL AS ALL THE BUFFER AND FLOOD PLAIN ON THE PROPERTY.

THE TREES WILL ALSO BE SAVED.

THERE ARE TWO EXISTING DETENTION PONDS ON THE PROPERTY TODAY.

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AND THERE'S ALSO AN EXISTING STORMWATER POND HERE THAT SERVES STONE RIDGE.

THERE ARE TWO ADDITIONAL STORMWATER PONDS PROPOSED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT IN POD B.

YOU HAVE A A STORMWATER POND IN THIS LOCATION HERE.

AND THEN IN POD A UP AT THE NORTH END OF THE DEVELOPMENT ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING STORMWATER POND, THE APPLICANT PROVIDED SOME RENDERINGS.

UH, THESE RENDERINGS WOULD BE THE, UH, FOR THE EMPIRE AS WELL AS THE TOLL BROTHER PORTIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

YOU HAVE FRONT ELEVATIONS.

THEY'RE SHOWING YOU SIDE ELEVATIONS WHICH HAVE HIGHER LEVEL OF DETAIL, UM, THE CHIMNEY ADDED WITH THE ADDITIONAL WINDOWS AND, AND THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPES THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.

THERE ARE A TOTAL OF THREE DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPES IN EACH SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT FOR A TOTAL OF SIX.

AND THEN YOU'LL SEE SOME CHIMNEYS ON THE ENDS OF UNITS.

AND THERE IS A CONDITION RELATED TO WHICH BUILDINGS WOULD HAVE THOSE CHIMNEYS.

OF COURSE, THE SIDE ELEVATIONS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO A PUBLIC STREET, WE WANT THE HIGHER LEVEL OF DETAIL ON THOSE SIDE ELEVATIONS.

SO THERE IS AN EXHIBIT, A CHIMNEY EXHIBIT, AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT AS I'M GOING THROUGH THESE.

AND I'LL LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO THEIR RENDERINGS.

AND THIS IS THAT CHIMNEY EXHIBIT THAT IS REFERENCED IN THE CONDITIONS, THE UNITS THAT HAVE THE PINK AND INDICATE A LOCATION WHERE A CHINEY WILL BE ON THE END OF THE BUILDING.

OF COURSE, WE LOOKED AT THE TRAFFIC FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THE TRIP GENERATION REPORT INDICATES THAT THE TOWNHOME COMMUNITY WOULD GENERATE APPROXIMATELY 100 AM PEAK HOUR TRIPS AND 103 PM PEAK HOUR TRIPS.

THAT ACTUALLY REPRESENTS 113% DECREASE IN AM PEAK HOUR TRIPS.

AND 105% DECREASE IN PMP PEAK HOUR TRIPS WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO AN OFFICE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE.

THE APPLICANT ALSO PROVIDED A TRAFFIC, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY, UH, ANALYZED THE THREE EXISTING INTERSECTIONS.

THE STUDY CONCLUDED THAT NO CHANGES OR IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WERE RECOMMENDED AT THE THREE STUDY INTERSECTIONS.

AND THE RESULTS INDICATE THE STUDY INTER INTERSECTIONS WOULD CONTINUE TO OPERATE AT AN OVERALL ACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF SERVICE IN THE AM AND PM PEAK HOURS.

LOOKING AT THE RE REVIEW CRITERIA FOR THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT, COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, AMENDMENT AND REZONING PROPOSAL IS SUITABLE GIVEN THE DEVELOPMENT OF JASON AND NEARBY PROPERTIES, WHICH IN INCLUDES STONE RIDGE AND CAMDEN POND, AS WELL AS PRESTON RIDGE PARK AND THE BIG CREEK GREENWAY.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO IDENTIFIES THE OLD MILTON PARKWAY EAST OF GEORGE 400 AS A PRIOR PRIORITY AREA IN NEED OF REDEVELOPMENT, IT SUGGESTS CREATING ACTIVITY NODES NEAR OR WITHIN EXISTING SUBURBAN OFFICE PARKS.

OF COURSE, BROOKSIDE OFFICE PARK IS JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN THE CITY'S JOB TO HOUSING RATIO SUGGESTS A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING.

THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD GENERATE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS TRAFFIC THAN AN OFFICE PARK DEVELOPED AT THIS LOCATION.

AND THE SITE IS, UH, SITE PLAN IS SUPPORTED BY OVER 12 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE.

THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN.

UH, THEY INDICATED THAT THEY HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE ADJACENT HOAS IN CAMDEN POND AND STONE RIDGE AS WELL AS WITH RESIDENTS.

QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, UH, AT THOSE MEETINGS INCLUDED PRICE POINTS, UNIT SIZE AND TYPE, UH, CUL THE COTTON CREEK ENTRY CUL-DE-SAC.

SO THE EXISTING CUL-DE-SAC, THERE WERE CONCERNS THAT THAT WOULD REMAIN.

WE DO HAVE CONDITIONS THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD COME BACK, UH, TO ABANDON THAT CUL-DE-SAC.

APPARENTLY IT'S JUST USED AS A PLACE FOR FOLKS TO, TO PARK AND MAYBE GET UP, GET INTO NO GOOD SITUATIONS.

UM, EROSION CONTROL WAS ALSO, UH, IDENTIFIED AS A CONCERN.

TREE REMOVAL, TRAFFIC, UH, USE OF THE AMENITIES, THE IMPACT TO PROPERTY VALUES, TRAIL CONNECTION,

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UH, WERE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS THAT WERE VOICED.

STAFF ALSO RECEIVED SIMILAR CONCERNS, UH, FROM AND QUESTIONS FROM THE HOA AND RESIDENTS AT THE JANUARY 14TH COMMUNITY ZONING INFORMATION MEETING.

THERE WERE SIMILAR CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AT THAT MEETING.

ALSO TODAY, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, NOTE THAT WE DID RECEIVE A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD FROM THE OWNERS OR OWNER OF THE ANDY'S CUSTARD THAT WAS ADDED TO YOUR PACKETS.

UH, TODAY.

UH, THAT COMMENT CARD WAS IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICANT'S, UH, REQUESTS.

AGAIN, IT WAS FROM ANDY'S.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO RECEIVED A PETITION FROM A RESIDENT, I BELIEVE, IN THE CAMDEN, UH, POND, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, THE PETITION WAS SIGNED BY, I BELIEVE, UM, RESIDENTS WITHIN CAMDEN POND.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT ALSO INCLUDED, UH, STONE RIDGE ASKING FOR CONDITIONS TO BE ADDED, REQUIRING A SIDEWALK CONNECTION BETWEEN CAMDEN POND AND, UH, OR TO COTTON CREEK ENTRY.

THERE'S A MISSING SIDEWALK GAP THAT'S ALREADY A CONDITION OF ZONING THAT'S RECOMMENDED IN THE CONDITIONS.

UM, AND THAT PETITION ALSO ASKS FOR, I BELIEVE, A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER, UM, BETWEEN THIS DEVELOPMENT AND, AND GADEN POND.

SO BECAUSE THOSE WERE RECEIVED TODAY, I JUST WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT, BUT I BELIEVE THEY WERE ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

AND THEN PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THIS REQUEST AT THEIR JULY 30TH MEETING.

THERE WERE SEVERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS AND SUPPORT, INCLUDING FROM ANDY'S CUSTARD PORTMAN HOLDINGS.

UH, THE ADJACENT HOAS REASONS FOR SUPPORT INCLUDED THE TREE SAVES THAT THE APPLICANT WAS PROPOSING.

THE TREE BUFFER AND SETBACK THAT THEY PROVIDED ADJACENT TO CAMDEN POND, UH, BELIEVED THAT THE APPLICANT'S, THE BUILDERS HAD A QUALITY PRODUCT TYPE AND LESS TRAFFIC IMPACTS.

THERE WERE ALSO SEVERAL COMMENTS IN OPPOSITION AT PLANNING COMMISSION WITH CONCERNS OVER TRAFFIC, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, UNSAFE CONDITIONS ON OLD MILTON PARKWAY, AND A LARGER BUFFER BETWEEN THE DEVELOPMENTS.

UH, AFTER, UH, DISCUSSION, PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS, AND THERE WERE 25.

THOSE ARE THE 25 CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT IN YOUR PACKETS.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.

MAYOR PRO TIM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UH, MICHAEL, LET'S GO BACK TO THIS REQUEST FOR A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER.

I MEAN, I'M SENSITIVE TO NEIGHBORS FOR SURE.

YOU SAID THERE'S A 60 FOOT SETBACK OR A 60 FOOT BUFFER.

SO ALONG THIS PROPERTY LINE HERE YEAH, YOU HAVE THE FIRST, UM, THERE'S A 25 FOOT ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE, A 25 FOOT TREE SAVE UNDISTURBED BUFFER.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A 60 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK THAT IS OVER THAT, OVER TOP OF THAT.

SO THE BUILDINGS COULDN'T COME ANY CLOSER.

THIS IS THE 60 FOOT LINE HERE THAT YOU'RE SEEING.

SO A TOTAL OF 85 FEET, IT'S, IT'S THE 25 FOOT OVERLAPS.

THE 60 FOOT, OKAY.

YEAH.

SO THE 25 IS ON TOP OF IT, WHICH IS MORE THAN WE NORMALLY DO IT.

WE DO NOT REQUIRE BUFFERS, RESIDENTIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.

ALL THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED ALONG THIS PROPERTY LINE PER OUR CODE WOULD BE A FIVE FOOT LAND SUB STRIP.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN RAISE.

UM, IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS, IT REFERENCES CONNECTION TO THE GREENWAY.

YES.

AND, UM, IT LOOKED LIKE IN THE CONDITION THAT IF IT WAS SUBJECT TO A FEDERAL PERMIT, THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE REQUIRED.

MAY I HAVE, I I MAY HAVE READ THAT WRONG.

I, BUT IT ALSO LEFT OPEN TO INTERPRETATION SHOULD IT BEEN, UH, A FEDERAL PERMIT BE REQUIRED, WHICH WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE GREENWAY.

YEAH.

UM, IN FACT, I THINK IT'S HIGHLY LIKELY.

UM, IS THERE STILL COMMITMENT TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT CONNECTION? YES, I, I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S STILL A COMMITMENT WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO THERE.

SO THERE'S A TRAIL CONNECTION PORTION OF THAT WOULD BE ON THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY.

THEY WOULD IMPROVE THAT AS PART OF THEIR OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT.

THEY WOULD NOT RECEIVE ANY IMPACT FEES FOR THAT IMPROVEMENT ON THEIR PROPERTY.

BUT THE, THE CONNECTION ACTUALLY TO GET OVER TO THE BIG CREEK GREENWAY, WHICH IS THE GREEN LINE HERE, WOULD REQUIRE GOING OFFSITE ONTO THE CITY'S PROPERTY.

AND THERE IS AN EXISTING PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD BE REPLACING AS PART OF THIS, WHICH COULD REQUIRE BECAUSE IT'S GOING OVER BIG CREEK FEDERAL PERMITS WITH THAT.

SO THE, THE CONDITION ACTUALLY SAYS IT'S CONDITION NUMBER 14 AND IT'S, IT'S A RATHER LONG CONDITION,

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SO THERE'S COMMITMENT TO DO IT TO, IT IS JUST THAT THE FEDERAL PROCESS MAY TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER BECAUSE WE HAVE A, IN A SENTENCE THAT PROCEEDS THAT WE REQUIRE THAT THE TRAIL CON CONSTRUCTION BE COMPLETED BY THE 25TH CO.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S 195 UNITS, WE ARE ASKING FOR THAT TRAIL CONNECTION BY THE 25TH CO.

IF THEY HAVE FEDERAL PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS, WE WOULD WORK AT THE APPLICANT AND ALLOW THEM TO EXTEND THAT OUT.

BUT IT STILL IS REQUIRED IMPROVEMENT.

I THINK IT WOULD BE, I THINK THERE'S SOME, I THINK IT MIGHT BE A CLEARER LANGUAGE OPPORTUNITY THERE.

I HAVEN'T SPELLED IT OUT, BUT I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING.

MM-HMM .

IT LOOKS LIKE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT LEAVES OPEN TO INTERPRETATION.

THE FINISH OF IT, IF THERE'S A FEDERAL PERMIT REQUIRED AND IF THERE'S A BRIDGE OVER OVER BIG CREEK IS PROBABLY A FEDERAL PERMIT REQUIRED.

SO, UM, GOING ON THE PROB THE, LIKE, THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD PHRASE THAT MORE CLEARLY SO THAT IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT THAT IS AN EXPECTATION WITH THAT CONDITION? WE CAN LOOK AT THAT WHILE THE APPLICANT IS MAKING THEIR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. WOODMAN? THANK YOU, SIR.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT.

UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS JESSICA HILL.

MY BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 600 PEACHTREE STREET, UH, AND I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT.

UH, I'M JOINED BY A WHOLE HOST OF PEOPLE BEHIND ME FROM BOTH TO BROTHERS AND EMPIRE AND ALL THE CONSULTANTS.

SO WE HAVE ANYBODY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU'VE GOT.

UM, MR. WOODMAN AS USUAL WAS VERY THOROUGH.

UM, SO I'M GONNA JUMP RIGHT INTO SOME THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT.

UM, WHY IS THIS SITE A GOOD SITE FOR TOWN HOMES? UM, YOU CAN SEE THE SITE IN GREEN ON THIS PLAN.

UM, COUPLE THINGS ABOUT IT.

IT HAS GREAT ACCESS.

IT HAS THREE ACCESS POINTS THAT ARE EXISTING PUBLIC ROADS, UH, DIRECT ACCESS TO OLD MILTON PARKWAY.

UM, THE BROOKSIDE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.

UM, WE THINK THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BE BOTH ACCRETIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL THAT'S PROPOSED IN IT, UM, AS WELL AS MAKING IT, UH, A MORE COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT.

UM, AVALON AND DOWNTOWN ALPHARETTA ARE BOTH LOCATED IN CLOSE PROXIMITY.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THE SITE HAS VERY CONVENIENT ACCESS TO GEORGIA 400, UM, AND LOCAL JOB CONCENTRATIONS.

UM, THE HOUSING MARKET ANALYSIS THAT'S IN THE RECENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SHOWS ALPHARETTA AND RED, KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TOWN HOME HOUSING, UH, INVENTORY.

UM, SO IT'S ABOUT 12.4% OF YOUR HOUSING STOCK IS TOWN HOMES.

UM, SO YOU'RE BELOW SOME OF YOUR PEERS AND ABOVE SOME OF YOUR PEERS.

SO WE THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY, PARTICULARLY FOR A PROJECT LIKE THE ONE THAT WE'VE DESIGNED.

UM, WE'RE CALLING THIS BROOKSIDE NORTH.

WE STOLE, WE STOLE THE NAME.

UM, BUT AGAIN, WE THINK THAT THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THIS WHOLE ECOSYSTEM, UM, AND SUPPORT BOTH NOT ONLY THE BIG CREEK GREENWAY AND THE PARK, UM, BUT ALSO GEORGIA STATE, THE, UH, OFFICE ACROSS THE STREET AND THE COMMERCIAL LIKE KEN WOOD TALK ABOUT TRAILS.

KENNETH WOOD THREE 50 RESEARCH COURT.

SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR LETTING US SPEAK ON THE TRAIL CONNECTIVITY.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT THERE.

WE TALKED ABOUT COMING OVER, UH, BASICALLY REPLACING THE EXISTING BRIDGE THAT YOU HAVE THERE.

THE TRAIL CONNECTION THEN CONTINUES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT.

THIS WOULD BE A COMPLETELY CONNECTED MEANING ALL THE WAY FROM ADJACENT NEIGHBORS ALL THE WAY THROUGH EVERY ROADS THAT WE EITHER FRONT OR COME BY FOR.

UH, EVERY PART OF THAT IS GONNA BE CONNECTED.

UH, NOW AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU'RE SEEING, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PRODUCTS.

THOSE HAVE BEEN ELEVATED.

UH, THESE ARE ALL JUST COMPARISONS ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE AND THEN HOW THEY WERE ELEVATED AS WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH THE INITIAL ONES THAT YOU GUYS HAD SEEN AND KIND OF WHERE THEY ARE TO THIS DAY.

THE LESSON WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT IS, IS THE WHY.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS CHOOSING THIS IS A FLAG WAS PLANTED IN THE GROUND WITH PORTMAN, UH, BRING, LOOKING AT NEW RESTAURANTS, NEW LOCATIONS.

I PERSONALLY DRIVE THE CORRIDOR ALL THE TIME AND SEEING THE RESTAURANT ACROSS THE STREET KIND OF GO IN AND OUT OF DIFFERENT, UH, DIFFERENT IDEAS, DIFFERENT USES.

BUT BEING ABLE TO HAVE THIS AS A PLACE, AN EAST ALPHARETTA, UM, TO REALLY HAVE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO.

ONCE YOU'RE HERE, ONCE YOU'RE AT HOME, YOU KIND OF HAVE EVERYTHING.

IF YOU WANT TO GO EAT, YOU CAN WALK ACROSS THE STREET AND WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF EXHIBITS TO KIND OF SHOW THE NEW CROSSWALKS AND EVERYTHING THAT'LL BE PROVIDED.

UH, THE NEW ROADWAYS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE.

WE ALSO HAVE ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU CAN COME TO.

YOU HAVE OFFICE, YOU HAVE UH, GEORGIA STATE, YOU HAVE THE CHURCH, YOU HAVE ALL THE RESTAURANTS AND ALL THE RETAIL USES AND IT'LL

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UM, THE NEXT THING WE'RE LOOKING AT IS BASICALLY THE NEIGHBORS.

UH, WE'VE HAD AMAZING COMMUNICATION WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND THEY'VE REALLY HELPED US SCULPT THE PLAN TO WHAT YOU SEE TODAY.

UH, WE WERE AT 206 UNITS WHEN WE STARTED.

UH, WE HAD DIFFERENT ROAD CONNECTIONS.

NOW WE HAVE TEA INTERSECTIONS, UH, WHERE THEY ASK US TO.

IT TOOK A LOT OF GRADING AND LOOKING AT IT, A LOT OF CHANGES.

BUT YOU SEE WHERE WE COME IN AND YOU HAVE OPEN SPACES AS YOU ARRIVE.

UH, YOU HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHANGES TO THE PLAN AND, UH, A BIG CREDIT FOR THEM IN HELPING US GET THE PLAN AS BEST THAT YOU SEE THERE.

UH, DAVE FOR THAT AND WITH THAT I'VE GOT SOME OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANT TO TALK IN SUPPORT TOO.

OKAY.

JUST KIDDING.

.

JUST KIDDING.

I THINK ANDY, IS HE NOT HERE? YEAH.

OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

SO A COUPLE OF THINGS KIND OF MOVING ON FROM THIS ON OLD MILTON.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE THIS IN YOUR PACKET.

SO A COUPLE OF THINGS WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO G DDOT ABOUT, AND THIS DID COME FROM THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL.

UH, THERE WERE COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME TRAFFIC CONCERNS.

HOW CAN WE ALLEVIATE 'EM? SO WE STARTED MEETING OUT THERE AND GOING OVER, YOU KNOW, YOU THE LANE WIDTH IS THERE, THE WAY IT'S SET UP IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS. SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN OUT WHEN TALKING ABOUT IS BEING ABLE TO MAKE A DEDICATED LEFT.

RIGHT NOW IT'S A STRAIGHT AND LEFT.

SO YOU KIND OF PLAY CHICKEN OUT IN THE INTERSECTION, SEEING IF THE OTHER PERSON CAN GO.

AND BY THAT TIME IT'S EXHAUSTED THE GREEN TIME, UH, FOR THAT LEFT TURN.

SO WITH THIS CONFIGURATION, WE CAN MAKE A DEDICATED LEFT AND THEN HAVE THE RIGHT AND STRAIGHT AND BE ABLE TO TAKE THIS LANE ALL THE WAY UP.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO ANDY'S ABOUT HIS, UH, DRIVEWAY, THERE BEING MORE, UH, LIMITED ACCESS AND THEN ALSO EXTENDING IT ALL THE WAY TO THE INTERSECTION OF COTTON PLACE.

AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DE CELL LANES, BASICALLY ON BOTH OPPOSING SIDES, UH, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT SHORTER.

WE BROUGHT IT TO GDO T'S ATTENTION.

THEY BOTH ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE LOOKING INTO AND WE WILL, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WILLING TO DO.

IF FOR SOME REASON IN THEIR PROJECT THEY DON'T UPDATE THEIR PLANS TO DO IT.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE OTHER CROSSWALK INTERSECTION AT THIS LOCATION TOO, UH, FROM GOING THERE.

THAT'S THE TIMELINE.

YEAH.

AND JUST ONE LAST ITEM.

THIS IS THE TIMELINE SHOWING, UH, UP TOP IS THE GREEN OLD MILTON PARKWAY EXPANSION PROJECT.

UM, YOU SEE IT'S SUPPOSED TO END RIGHT AROUND JULY OF 2029.

AND WHAT YOU SEE IN ORANGE IS THE PROPOSED SALES AND CLOSING PERIOD FOR THIS PROJECT.

UM, WHICH LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA START IN, YOU KNOW, JANUARY OF 29, UM, WITH OBVIOUSLY A SALES, UH, PERIOD FOR MULTIPLE YEARS.

UM, SO JUST SHOWING HOW THIS PROJECT WILL DELIVER IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROJECT.

UH, AND WE WILL RESERVE ANY REMAINING TIME FOR REBUTTAL BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE SOME FOLKS THAT WANNA SPEAK.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COUNCILMAN BRADY? I'LL WORKED MY WAY BACK THIS.

YEAH, I JUST COUNCILMAN YOU MENTIONED THE CUL-DE-SAC.

I DIDN'T KNOW IN THAT LAST, UH, VISUAL OR THE RENDERING, IS THAT TURNED INTO GREEN SPACE OR IS THAT GONNA REMAIN PAVEMENT? I WASN'T SURE IN THAT LAST ONE.

IT KIND OF LOOKED LIKE IT ALMOST TURNED INTO GREEN SPACE, SO I WASN'T, I WASN'T SURE OF THAT REPRESENTATION REAL QUICK.

UM, ONE SEC.

KEN.

KEN'S GONNA PULL UP, BUT WE HAVE A, A VISUAL FOR THIS, BUT THE, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD AT THE, ONE OF THE INITIAL MEETINGS WE HAD WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS THAT THE CUL-DE-SAC AT THE END OF COTTON CREEK ENTRY IS USED FOR PEOPLE NOT UP TO GOOD, I THINK WAS THE COMMENT .

UM, UM, AND THE PROPOSAL IS TO ABANDON IT, UM, AND MAKE IT INTO A PARK AREA, BASICALLY AN EXTENSION OF, UM, THE, THE GREENWAY TRAIL THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, KIND OF OFF TO THE LEFT IF YOU WANNA USE YOUR LITTLE CURSOR, YOU CAN SEE THAT.

YEAH, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S THE TRAIL THERE.

UM, AND THEN WE JUST PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, PATHS AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A SEATING AREA, BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS WILL BE PART OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION FOR THEM TO MAINTAIN.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, UM, PASSIVE BUT ATTRACTIVE IS, IS IT, IS THE TRAILS, I GUESS AS A TRAILHEAD, WHICH LOOKS MUCH BETTER THAN THE, THE CUL-DE-SAC? YES.

IS THAT ACCESSIBLE TO ALL THE PEDESTRIANS AROUND OR IS IT RESTRICTED AT ALL? NO, IT WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE TO ALL PEDESTRIANS.

THERE'D BE AN EASEMENT PUBLIC.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

PUBLIC EASEMENT.

YEP.

THANK YOU COUNCILMAN.

THANKS.

MENTION THE TRAFFIC.

PARDON? COUNCILMAN DORITO.

DO YOU MIND TO TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE? OH, I'M SORRY.

UH, THANK YOU .

MR. DO YOU, YOU MENTIONED, UH, THE DISCUSSIONS WITH G DOT ON THERE, THEIR PROJECT ALONG OLAND PARKWAY.

UM, SO IF THEY AGREE TO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD PAY FOR? OR WHERE'S THE FUNDING FOR THOSE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS COMING FROM? SO THERE'S A, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A, OF A TWO-PRONG.

UM, SO IN, AND ABDUL IS ACTUALLY HERE.

HE, HE HAD THE, UH, DISCUSSIONS AS WELL ARE ON OUR TRAFFIC SIDE.

THE IMPROVEMENTS OVER HERE, WHICH ARE THE MAIN ONES THAT, THAT, THE

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UM, WHEN WE TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT YOU KIND OF GET IN TO WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO TURN LEFT AND YOU HAVE AN OPPOSING CAR THAT'S TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING.

BUT UNLESS THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, USE THEIR BLINKERS AND DO THE DIFFERENT THING, YOU KIND OF SIT FOR A SECOND AND ALL THE WHILE THE GREEN LINE'S BURNING.

AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES IS THAT THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN CONTROL.

WE CAN CONTROL THAT ON OUR SIDE.

THE LANE WIDTH IS THERE.

WE'VE HAD THE DISCUSSIONS WITH ANDY ABOUT BRINGING THE SIDEWALK ALL THE WAY DOWN AND RES STRIPING AND MAKING WHAT'S NEEDED THERE.

UM, THE CROSSWALKS ARE SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED WITH G DDOT BASICALLY EXPANDING THE LEFT TURN LANES BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, STORAGE LANE, UH, ON THERE.

AND THEN, UH, THE DISCUSSIONS WITH PORTMAN ALSO HAVE BEEN HAD ON THE OTHER SIDE ABOUT HAVING THE SAME TYPE OF CONFIGURATIONS THERE.

SO THE MAJORITY OF IT WE CAN CONTROL WITH THE DE CELL LANE.

UM, THAT OBVIOUSLY CAN BE DONE IN THE FUTURE IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT G DDOT ADDS TO THEIR PLANS.

BUT WE DID HAVE GOOD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THEM ADDING THAT, UH, AS PART OF THEIR, THEIR ADDITIONS TO, I GUESS I'M JUST, UM, THE REASON WHY I RAISED THE QUESTION 'CAUSE WHAT, WHAT I DO NOT WANNA SEE HAPPEN IS WHEN THIS, IF THIS IS APPROVED AND IT GETS CONSTRUCTED AND SOME OF THESE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS ARE NOT EITHER AGREED TO BY GDO, UM, I WOULD IMAGINE THE RESIDENTS IN THE FUTURE WOULD BE LOOKING TO THEIR CITY COUNCIL TO TRY TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, AT A PRETTY COSTLY AMOUNT OF MONEY.

SO, UM, I CAN I ASK ABDUL TO COME UP? HE PROBABLY SURE.

BE ABLE TO ANSWER BECAUSE I BELIEVE I JUST WANNA GET A SENSE OF FILE A PERMIT IF WE NEEDED TO.

I HOPE YOUR DISCUSSIONS ARE THAT EITHER GDO T'S GONNA RECONFIGURE THEIR PLAN TO INCLUDE THOSE.

GO AHEAD ABDUL.

I'M SORRY.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME'S ABDUL.

I'M MAYOR WITH A AND R ENGINEERING 2160 KINGSTON COURT MAYOR.

UH, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH GEORGIA DOT ABOUT EXTENSION OF THE LEFT TURN LANES.

UM, IN THEIR DESIGN.

LAST MEETING WE HAD, WE HAD DISTRICT ENGINEERING IT, SOME PEOPLE FROM GENERAL OFFICE PROJECT MANAGERS.

IT WAS A PRETTY POWERFUL MEETING AND FROM ALL APPEARANCE THEY WERE WILLING TO EXTEND THE LEFT TURN LANES AND MODIFY THEIR DESIGN.

THEY WERE NOT WILLING TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE SIDE STREET IE COTTON CREEK ENTRY, ALTHOUGH THEY THOUGHT WHAT WE WERE RECOMMENDING WAS IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD HELP THE OPERATION.

SO I THINK THEY SUGGESTED THAT ANY CHANGES TO THE LANE CONFIGURATION ON COTTON CREEK BE DONE UNDER A PERMIT PAID FOR BY THE DEVELOPER AND THEY WERE WILLING TO CONSIDER LENGTHENING THE LEFT TURN LANE AS PART OF THE DESIGN.

OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING AT THIS POINT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND WE'RE PREPARED TO PAY FOR THAT PART.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT'S COUNCILMAN REEVES? SO WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT AGREEMENT WITH G DDOT, WHEN WOULD, WHEN WOULD THE CITY KNOW ABOUT THE AGREEMENT WITH GDO T TO GET THE LEFT HAND TURN LANES EXTENDED? UH, FOR, SO FOR THIS SECTION HERE MM-HMM .

UH, THE, THE SECTION HERE, UM, WOULD, WOULD BE PART OF, LIKE YOU SAID WOULD BE PART OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

WELL, WHAT ABOUT THE ONE, THE LEFT HAND TURN LANE IN THE CENTER EXTENDED? SO IN THE CENTER, THIS IS, SO THEY'RE ALREADY INSTALLING THE ADDITIONAL LEFT TURN? THEY ARE, WE ARE, WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THEY EXTEND THAT.

RIGHT.

AND SO WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS TO SEE IF THEY WOULD EXTEND THAT.

IF FOR SOME REASON THEY WOULD NOT, WE CAN FILE A PERMIT WITH G DDOT TO OFFER THAT ADDITIONAL EXTENSION.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF CAN THEY CHANGE THEIR PLANS, BUT SINCE THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED CONSTRUCTION TO ADD THAT ADDITIONAL, THE ADDITIONAL LANE.

YEAH.

THERE, THERE'S ALSO A ZONING CONDITION NUMBER 17, WHICH PROVIDES THE DEVELOPER SHALL IMPROVE THE EASTBOUND LEFT TURN LANE STORAGE LENGTH ON OLD MILTON PARKWAY, WHICH IS THE LEFT, RIGHT, THE, THE LEFT ONE THAT YOU SEE.

UM, SO IT'S AN OBLIGATION ON DEVELOPER IF IT'S NOT DONE BY GDO T BUT YOU NEED GDO T'S PERMISSION 'CAUSE IT'S GDO ROAD, CORRECT.

, YES.

YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SO NEXT WE'LL BE TAKING PUBLIC COMMENTS IN FAVOR? YES, MR. MAYOR, WE HAVE, UM, THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED IN FAVOR AND A COUPLE, UM, IN OPPOSITION.

OKAY.

WILL YOU PLEASE PROCEED? YES.

UM, SO FIRST UP WE HAVE BEVERLY, WE AND THEN DARLENE CUT WHIP.

IF, UM, YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND COME UP PRONUNCIATION THAT'S OKAY.

NOBODY EVER DOES IS THE,

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SO ONCE SHE STARTS, THEN I'LL, I'LL START THE CLOCK BACK.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS RIGHT.

OH, HAVE WE STARTED THE CLOCK YET? AM I ON? OKAY.

YOU HAVE THE POINT.

UM, MY NAME IS, MY NAME IS BEVERLY WNET.

I AM ON THE HOA BOARD FOR THE STONE RIDGE COMMUNITY.

UM, AND, UH, WE RECOGNIZE THAT CAMDEN POND HAS A WHOLE DIFFERENT SET OF CONCERNS AND ISSUES.

WE HAVE ISSUES, UH, TOO WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT STONE RIDGE DOES NOT SHARE WITH CAMDEN POND.

THEY, THEY'RE WERE COMPLETELY SEPARATE.

UM, THE ISSUES THAT STONE RIDGE HAS CENTER ON THE RETENTION POND, WE OWN A VERY SMALL SLICE OF THAT POND, AND THE REST OF IT IS PART OF THE ORIGINAL OWNER'S PROPERTY.

DON'T ASK ME WHY IT WAS DONE THAT WAY, WHO KNOWS? UM, BUT, UH, WE ALSO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE CUL-DE-SAC.

WE CAN ATTEST THAT THERE HAVE HAS BEEN DRUG ACTIVITY DOWN THERE, THERE'S BEEN CAR RACING, THERE HAVE BEEN BONFIRES THAT HAVE BEEN LIT.

UM, AND IT'S CONSTANT UP TO NO GOOD, AS YOU SAID.

UM, WE HAVE MET WITH, UH, THE BUILDER SEVERAL TIMES AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY OPEN TO LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS.

UM, CHANGES, EXCUSE ME, CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE DEVELOPMENT BASED ON SOME OF OUR SUGGESTIONS.

EMPIRE IS ALSO WORKING WITH US ON THE RETENTION POND.

UH, THE OWNERSHIP OF IT, THE MAINTENANCE OF THE DAM, UH, UH, ON IT.

AND, UM, WE HAVEN'T GOT EVERYTHING SORTED OUT YET, BUT THEY ARE WORKING WITH US TO DO THAT.

AND, UH, ALSO ON THE PROPOSAL TO ABANDON THE CUL-DE-SAC AND TURN IT INTO GREEN SPACE AT THAT NOT ONLY WOULD BENEFIT THEIR COMMUNITY, BUT WOULD BENEFIT OURS AS WELL, WE WOULD HAVE FULL ACCESS TO THAT BECAUSE OF THE COOPERATION THAT'S BEEN SHOWN BY THE DEVELOPERS.

AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SOMEONE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAID THAT IT WAS AN UNUSUAL AMOUNT OF COOPERATION THAT WE'VE HAD WITH EMPIRE AND TOLL BROTHERS, UM, THAT IT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK OUT THAT WAY, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN VERY OPEN TO LISTENING TO OUR, OUR CONCERNS, TAKING OUR SUGGESTIONS.

AND, UH, BECAUSE OF THAT, THE STONE RIDGE COMMUNITY IS IN FAVOR OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THEN MS. DARLENE AND THEN MIKE GREEN, IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND, AND COLLECTIVELY YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES AND FIVE SECONDS, SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT HOW WELL YOU USE YOUR TIME.

MY NAME IS DARLING CU.

I LIVE AT 32 5 CAMDEN WAY, AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF CAMDEN POND, WHICH IS COMPRISED COMPRISED OF 77 OF THE TOTAL 95 UNITS.

OUR COMMUNITY, ALTHOUGH OUR BOARD ORIGINALLY CHOSE NOT TO TAKE AN OFFICIAL STANCE ON THE REZONING REQUEST, WE HAD SEVERAL IN-DEPTH DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, UM, WITH THE, THE DEVELOPERS.

AND THAT ACTUALLY WAS FOUR MEETINGS PLUS THE, UH, ORIGINAL, UH, COMMUNITY ZONING INFORMATION FROM THE INITIAL PRESENTATION.

AND THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS, WE'VE BEEN IMPRESSED WITH THE FACT THAT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE TAKEN OUR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS INTO CONSIDERATION AND HAVE MADE CONCESSIONS AND CHANGES TO ACCOMMODATE MANY OF THE SAME AS SHE MENTIONED, AT EACH CONSECUTIVE MEETING THEY PRESENTED AND THOROUGHLY EXPLAINED THOSE CHANGES AS A BOARD.

WE WERE DISAPPOINTED THAT, UH, MORE OF OUR, UM, OWNERS DIDN'T ATTEND THE MEETING, UH, BECAUSE THE MEETINGS, BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME INACCURATE AND MISLEADING INFORMATION THAT CIRCULATED THROUGH THE COMMUNITY.

AND WE FELT THAT IF THEY HAD BEEN THERE, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE, UM, WHAT ALL CONCESSIONS AND CHANGES THAT THEY HAD ACTUALLY MADE FOR US.

AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY'RE EITHER WATCHING TONIGHT OR MAYBE THEY HAD SEEN THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WHERE THEY COULD SEE THAT THE, YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE .

SEVERAL COMMISSIONS.

UH, THEY DID, UM, COMMISSIONERS DID SAY THAT, UM, THAT THE DEVELOPERS HAD MADE THE CHANGE.

AND A LOT OF TIMES DEVELOPERS DON'T MAKE ANY CHANGES.

SO ALL OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT AND, UM, WE FEEL THAT OVERALL IT WILL INCREASE THE VALUE OF OURS AND THE, ALL THE PROPERTIES AFFECTED BY THIS REZONING AND THE DEVELOPMENT AS PROPOSED TO AND APPROVED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION WILL BE AN ASSET TO THE AREA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. SHAPIRO.

MIKE GREEN, YOU HAVE 23 SECONDS.

SPEEDY GONZALEZ.

MY NAME IS MIKE GREEN, 3 0 3 PEACHTREE CENTER AVENUE.

I REPRESENT PORTMAN HOLDINGS.

WE SUPPORT THE PROJECT.

WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE ADDITIONAL HOUSING ACROSS THE STREET TO SUPPORT THE RETAIL.

THANK YOU.

GOT 13 MORE SECONDS.

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IS THAT ALL THE POSITIVE SUPPORT WE HAVE? YES, MR. MAYOR, THOSE ARE ALL IN FAVOR AT THIS TIME.

ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY OPPOSITION? WE DO.

UM, FIRST IS ASH ELLI, AND THEN NEXT UP WILL BE JUDY MCDANIEL.

MY NAME IS ASH BELLI.

HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MEGAN LISTER, WHO IS UNABLE TO BE PRESENT DUE TO A COMPROMISED IMMUNE SYSTEM.

I'LL BE READING OUT LOUD THE COMMENT THAT SHE WROTE ON BEHALF OF HER COMMUNITY.

MY NAME IS MEGAN LISTER.

I SPEAK TODAY AS A HOMEOWNER OF 3 9 9 6 CAMDEN WAY, AN OFFICER OF CAMDEN POND TWO.

AND AS A TRUSTED NEIGHBOR TO RESIDENTS IN BOTH ASSOCIATIONS OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS, I'VE REPEATEDLY CONNECTED WITH THEM, ANSWERED QUESTIONS, HEARD THEIR CONCERNS, HAVE BEEN ASKED TO GIVE THEM A VOICE.

EVEN SINCE THIS APPLICATION PROCESS BEGAN IN FEBRUARY, THE VAST MAJORITY OF INDIVIDUALS I SPOKE WITH WERE NOT AT ALL POSED TO COMPROMISING WITH THE APPLICANTS.

WE DO NOT, HOWEVER, FEEL THAT THE ACCOMMODATIONS OFFERED ADEQUATELY ADDRESS CAMDEN POND'S RISK OF BEING THE WORST IMPACTED AFTER A WEEKEND OF GOING DOOR TO DOOR.

THIS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE IS NEEDED FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

NUMBER ONE, INCREASE THE BUFFER FROM 25 FEET TO 100 FEET MINIMUM BETWEEN AVALON DRIVE AND THE TOLL BROTHERS DIVISION.

THIS WOULD BE UNDISTURBED BUFFER SAVE FOR THE NEXT CONDITION.

NUMBER TWO, BUILD A MULTI-USE PAVED TRAIL, PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE THAT CONNECTS THE CROSSWALK OF WHITESTONE PLACE TO A PUBLIC SIDEWALK BETWEEN CAMDEN WAY AND COTTON MILL.

PLACE NUMBER THREE, INCREASE THE STREAM BUFFER ON THE EMPIRE HOME'S PROPERTY DIVISION FROM 25 FEET TO 100 FEET MINIMUM.

THROUGH THIS, THE AFOREMENTIONED TRAIL AND CONDITION TWO COULD THEN BE EXPANDED TO CONNECT TO WATERS FERRY DRIVE.

THE FIRST CONDITIONS HAVE HAD A NEARLY 100% APPROVAL RATE WITH 42 RESIDENTS ENTHUSIASTICALLY PROVIDING THEIR SIGNATURE AS PROOF OF SUPPORT.

THE THIRD CONDITION IS OPTIONAL, BUT HIGHLY ENCOURAGED.

IT WAS DISCUSSED VERBALLY WITH ALL IMPROVED JUST AS POPULAR.

WE BELIEVE THAT THESE CONDITIONS WILL ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TO STILL OCCUR WHILE AT THE SAME TIME BRINGING BENEFITS, PROVIDING PROTECTION, AND AMELIORATING THE EFFECTS OF A ZONING CHANGE TO ALL NEIGHBORS.

SINCE CAMDEN POND FACES THE WORST IMPACTS FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, WE BELIEVE THAT OUR CONDITIONS WILL DO THE FOLLOWING FOR US AS ONE OF THE ONLY COMMUNITIES WITHOUT SAFE ACCESS TO A LEFT TURN, LIGHT REDUCED DENSITY WILL REDUCE COMPETITION WITH OTHER DRIVERS.

ADDITIONALLY, IT WILL ALSO REDUCE THE CONCERNS OF BOTTLENECK CONGESTION TO ANY RESIDENTS THAT LIVE OFF OF COTTON CREEK ENTRIES SUCH AS STONE RIDGE.

A TRAIL THAT GOES THROUGH THE INCREASED BUFFER WILL PROVIDE A MORE COMFORTABLE WALK IN THE SHADE IN A MORE NATURAL SETTING THAN WALKING ALONG OLD MILTON PARKWAY OR IN FRONT OF HOMES.

IT WILL ALSO PROTECT USERS MUCH MORE FROM CARS.

THE CC STATES MOST PEDESTRIAN DEATHS OCCUR ON HIGH CAPACITY URBAN ROADS THAT TYPICALLY HAVE POSTED SPEED LIMITS OF 45 TO 55 MILES PER HOUR.

MANY OF THESE ROADS SUFFER FROM A DESIGN CONFLICT BETWEEN PROVIDING DESTINATIONS SUCH AS DOORS OR RESTAURANTS THAT PEOPLE NEED TO ACCESS AND ALLOWING HIGH TRAVEL SPEEDS THAT OFTEN PRIORITIZE VEHICLE MOVEMENT.

THE INCREASED UNDISTURBED BUFFER WILL HELP SHIELD CAMDEN POND FROM THE NOISE POLLUTION OF OLD MILTON PARKWAY.

INCREASED URBAN HEAT ISLAND EFFECT AIR POLLUTION, FLOODING, LOSS OF PRIVACY, LOSS OF THE WILDLIFE CORRIDOR, REDUCTION IN QUALITY OF LIFE, AND REDUCTION IN PROPERTY VALUES.

THESE CONDITIONS ALSO EXTEND SIMILAR BENEFITS AND MORE TO THE LOCAL BUSINESSES, EXISTING AND FUTURE COMMUNITIES, AND FURTHERS MANY OF THE GOALS IN THE 2045 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE DEVELOPERS COULD SEE INCREASED HOME VALUES DUE TO PROXIMITY OF A HIGH QUALITY URBAN TRAIL.

THE USCA ESTIMATES INCREASES OF FIVE TO 32% WITH HIGHER VALUES CORRESPONDING TO DESIRABLE VISUAL CHARACTERISTICS AND RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.

THE CITY COULD ENJOY A RELIABLE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IN 2026.

TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND FOUND THAT FOR EVERY DOLLAR INVESTED IN PARKS AND RECREATION RETURNS ON AVERAGE AT LEAST $3 IN LOCAL ECONOMIC BENEFITS EACH YEAR.

THIS COMES FROM REDUCED STORM WATER TREATMENT COSTS, LOWER HEALTHCARE COSTS, RISING TAX REVENUES, AND MORE.

ANDY'S FROZEN CUSTARD, FOR EXAMPLE, MIGHT SEE MORE RELIABLE FOOT TRAFFIC BY BEING A PLACE THAT FAMILIES CAN BUY THEIR TREATS BEFORE THEY TAKE TO THE TRAIL.

THE CITY CAN ALSO ENJOY A FURTHER EXPANSION AND NETWORKING OF TRAILS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THERE IS A WAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPMENT WHILE

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WE AT CAMDEN POND BELIEVE THAT THESE CONDITIONS CAN HELP ACCOMPLISH JUST THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT, JUDY MCDANIEL.

I'M NOT HERE TO SPEAK ON CAMDEN POND HERE.

WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU.

AND THOSE ARE ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS THAT I HAVE IN OPPOSITION OF THIS TIME.

MR. MAYOR, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? I DO NOT SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD.

SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND OPPOSITION.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO REBUT ANY OF THAT? ALL RIGHT, I'LL TALK FAST.

UH, THE OPPOSITION IS ASKED FOR A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER.

YOUR CODE PROVIDES FOR A 50 FOOT BUFFER.

IF THIS WAS AN INDUSTRIAL SITE, UM, AS NOTED BY MR. WOODMAN THAT ONLY A FIVE FOOT LANDSCAPE SHIP IS REQUIRED.

SO WE BELIEVE THAT THE 20 FOOT TREE BUFFER AS WELL AS THE 60 FOOT SETBACK IS, UH, A SUFFICIENT ACCOMMODATION.

UM, A LOT OF THE ISSUES, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT THAT'S TIME WE HAVE.

PARDON? IF YOU WANNA OH, .

OKAY.

WE GOTTA RAISE THAT CLOCK SO I CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN THERE WITHOUT BREAKING MY NECK.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES, SIR.

MR. MAYOR TO OFFER A MOTION THIS EVENING TO APPROVE MP DASH TWO SIX DASH ZERO FIVE SLASH CLUP DASH 26 DASH ZERO THREE SLASH Z DASH 26 DASH ZERO THREE EMPIRE OLD MILTON PARKWAY, CAMDEN POND AS PRESENTED THIS EVENING, BUT I WANNA POINT SOMETHING OUT.