Sep 28, 2026 City Council

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GOOD EVENING

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, CITY OF ALPHARETTA, SEPTEMBER 28TH, 2026.

GO AHEAD AND NOTE FOR THE RECORD, ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ARE PRESENT AND ACCOUNTED FOR WAR.

AND AS ALWAYS, WE BEGIN OUR MEETINGS WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

SO IF YOU'RE WILLING AND ABLE, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN US PLEDGE ALL ALLEGIANCE, UNITED STATES AND TO REPUBLIC, WHICH STANDS UNDER JUSTICE.

AND FOR THE RECORD, IN CASE ANY OF YOU ARE HERE FOR AN ITEM THAT MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN FURTHER, I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU'RE WORKING FROM THE AGENDA THAT'S PRINTED IN THE BACK THERE WERE FOLLOWING ITEMS HAVE BEEN DEFERRED AND WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED THIS EVENING.

AND THAT IS TWO ITEMS. FIRST BEING Z DASH 26 DASH OH SEVEN SLASH V DASH 26 DASH 1 15 3 50 WILLS LANE AND PH DASH 26 DASH OH FOUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS BUSINESS AND RECREATIONAL VEHICLES FIRST READING.

NEITHER OF THOSE ITEMS WILL BE HEARD THIS EVENING.

SO IF YOU'RE HERE JUST ON THOSE TWO CASES, YOU FOUND YOURSELF A LITTLE FREE TIME THIS AFTERNOON.

SO FIRST ITEM

[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

DOES ANYONE WANT TO REMOVE ANYTHING FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING? SEEING NONE, MS. SOKI, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMP CARDS ON THIS ITEM? NO.

MR. MAYOR, WE DO NOT.

HOWEVER, IF ANYONE WANTS TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS, NOW'S CHANCE.

I DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD.

SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE'LL HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SECOND, HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN, HES SECOND BY MAY APPROACH.

AND MARK IN DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE VOTE YES.

AND IT DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY.

SO

[A. Announcement of Public Hearing Procedures]

THAT BEING SAID, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, DO YOU MIND? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I'LL READ THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCEDURES.

A ANY INDIVIDUAL REQUESTING TO BE HEARD ON A MATTER RELATED TO THE PURPOSE OF THE HEARING MUST BE FIRST RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR.

BEFORE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, UPON RISING TO SPEAK, THE SPEAKER MUST IDENTIFY HIMSELF OR HERSELF AND FURNISH A HOME OR BUSINESS ADDRESS.

BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH ANY COMMENTS OR REMARKS, THE COUNCIL WILL ALLOW THE PROPONENTS A TOTAL OF 10 MINUTES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF AN APPLICATION.

OPPONENTS WILL BE ALLOWED 10 MINUTES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

COMMENTS ARE ACCEPTED FIRST FROM THE APPLICANT, FOLLOWED BY PERSON SPEAKING IN FAVOR, AND THEN FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION UPON CONCLUSION OF ANY OPPOSING COMMENTS OR PRESENTATIONS, THE MAYOR WILL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO OFFER REBUTTAL IF ANY TIME IS REMAINING IN THE ORIGINAL ALL ALLOTTED 10 MINUTES.

THANKS SIR.

FIRST ITEM

[B. E-26-02 6120 Windward Parkway Sign Exception
Consideration of a sign exception to allow for an additional monument sign. An exception is requested from Unified Development Code Subsection 2.6.12(C) to allow an additional monument sign. The property is located at 6120 Windward Parkway and is legally described as being located in Land Lot 1108, 2nd District, 1st Section, Fulton County, Georgia.]

MR. WOODMAN, I BELIEVE YOU'RE PRESENTING THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

THE FIRST ITEM BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS A REQUEST FOR SIGN EXCEPTION TO ALLOW AN ADDITIONAL SECONDARY MONUMENT SIGN AT THE ENTRANCE TO A PROPERTY DEVELOPED AS AN OFFICE BUILDING AN EXCEPTION REQUESTED TO UNIFY DEVELOPMENT CODE SUBSECTION 2.6 POINT 12 C TO ALLOW AN ADDITIONAL SECONDARY MONUMENT SIGN.

AND THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 61 20 WINDWARD PARKWAY.

IT'S THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF WINDWARD PARKWAY AND ALDERMAN DRIVE.

THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY, UH,

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THIS IS THE BUILDING HERE.

UH, THE ONLY ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY IS FROM A CURB CUT WAY UP HERE ON ALDERMAN DRIVE.

THIS IS A VIEW OF THE PROPERTY FROM THE INTERSECTION AT WINDWARD AND AL ALDERMAN DRIVE.

THE BUILDING IS BEHIND THIS, THE TREES AT THE CORNER AND THEN THIS IS THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY ALONG WINDWARD PARKWAY.

THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THEIR EXISTING MONUMENT SIGN ALONG WINDWARD PARKWAY.

AND THEN THIS IS THE ACCESS POINT.

UH, UP ALONG THE NORTHERN END OF THE PROPERTY ON ALDERMAN DRIVE PROPERTY IS FOUR ACRES.

IT'S OWN CEP COMMUNITY UNIT PLAN.

IT IS SUBJECT TO THE WINDWARD MASTER PLAN.

ITS PROPERTY WAS DEVELOPED IN 1997.

TWO STORY, 52,000 SQUARE FOOT MULTI-TENANT OFFICE BUILDING.

GREAT PLAN.

SO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE ALLOWS ONE SECONDARY MONUMENT SIGN FOR EACH BUILDING IN AN OFFICE PARK.

THE, AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S AN EXISTING MONUMENT SIGN HERE ALONG WINDWARD PARKWAY AND THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR THE SIGN EXCEPTION TO ALLOW AN ADDITIONAL MONUMENT SIGN AT THIS LOCATION, WHICH IS AGAIN, THE ONLY CURB CUT INTO THIS LOCATION.

THE APPLICANT'S REASONS FOR THE SIGN EXCEPTION AND THE ADDITIONAL MONUMENT SIGN IS THAT, UH, THEY DO NOT BELIEVE THE EXISTING MONUMENT SIGN PROVIDES SUFFICIENT BUILDING IDENTIFICATION, UM, OR DIRECTIONAL CLARITY FOR THEIR TENANTS, VISITORS AND SERVICE PROVIDERS, UH, ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT, THEY'VE EXPERIENCED RECURRING PROBLEMS AT THIS PROPERTY WITH MISSED APPOINTMENTS, UH, AND DELAYED, UH, DELIVERIES.

AS IT RELATES TO THE PROPOSED MONUMENT SIGN, THIS IS THE PROPOSAL.

THE MONUMENT SIGN IS APPROXIMATELY 6.25 FEET TALL BY ABOUT THREE AND A HALF FEET WIDE.

UM, AND THAT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE, UH, DIMENSIONS THAT ARE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

UH, BUT WE DID PROVIDE, RECEIVED AN UPDATED, UH, MONUMENT SIGN DETAIL FROM THE APPLICANT AFTER THE STAFF REPORT WAS WRITTEN.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY COME DOWN IN SIZE, UH, FROM WHAT IT WAS PREVIOUSLY.

THE SIGN AREA, UH, HERE WOULD BE 12 SQUARE FEET.

AND THEN THE MONUMENT SIGN IS DEPICTED WITH A STONE CLAD BASE THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE, UH, LATEST DESIGN FOR THE WINWARD BUSINESS CENTER ASSOCIATION ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES.

AND THE APPLICANT WOULD BE, UM, ADDING THIS SIGN IN AT THE NEW PROPOSED LOCATION AND THEY WOULD ALSO UPGRADE THE EXISTING SIGN.

WE LOOKED AT THE REVIEW CRITERIA FOR AN EXCEPTION.

THE PROPERTY HAS EXCEPTIONAL AND PECULIAR CONDITIONS PERTAINING TO ITS SHAPE AND TOPOGRAPHY AS WELL AS BEING A CORNER LOT.

PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT AN INTERSECTION WITH THE EXISTING MONUMENT SIGN LOCATED IN THE MOST VISIBLE, UH, AREA FACING WINDWARD PARKWAY.

ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY OFF OF ALDERMAN DRIVE.

AND THE BUILDING IS SITUATED AT HIGHER ELEVATION THAN STREET.

MAKING IT DIFFICULT, UH, TO SEE FROM THE ENTRANCE IF APPROVED.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT CONDITIONS BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY LIMITING THE HEIGHT OF THE BOTH SECONDARY MONUMENT SIGNS TO NO MORE THAN SIX AND A HALF FEET AND THE SIGN AREA TO NO MORE THAN 12 SQUARE FEET.

THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN INDICATING THAT THEY RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THE SAME THING, NO PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE AUGUST 12TH COMMUNITY ZONING INFORMATION MEETING.

AND WITH THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST SUBJECT TO THE THREE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT IN YOUR PACKETS.

AND THOSE CONDITIONS LIMIT THE PROPERTY TO NO MORE THAN TWO SECONDARY MONUMENT SIGNS LIMITED TO THE SUBMITTED PLANS AND REQUIRES A DECORATIVE LANDSCAPE BED AROUND THE BASE OF BOTH MONUMENT SIGNS.

AND THAT INCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.

THANK YOU MR. WOODMAN.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WOODMAN ON THIS ITEM? MUST HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.

THERE WERE NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

MS. ORKE, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? NO, MR. MAYOR, WE DO NOT.

HOWEVER, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM NOW, IS YOUR CHANCE TO DO SO? I DO NOT SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD.

SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD?

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HI MAYOR.

HI COUNSEL.

THANK YOU.

UH, MY NAME IS NICOLE BELL.

I'M THE PROPERTY MANAGER FOR 61 20 WINDWARD PARKWAY IN ALPHARETTA, GEORGIA.

I WORK FOR PARTNERS REAL ESTATE IN THEIR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY DIVISION ALONG WITH THE LANDLORD'S PA PROPERTY WHO ARE BASED IN NEW YORK.

WE HAVE SUBMITTED THIS REQUEST AS, UM, AS WAS SAID FOR VISIBILITY PURPOSES FOR THE BUILDING.

UM, OUR MONUMENT SIGN BEING ONLY ON WINDWARD, WE HAVE HAD MULTIPLE TENANTS IN THEIR PATIENTS 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME DOCTOR'S OFFICES IN THE BUILDING, UM, TELL US THAT THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS AWARE WHERE THAT TURN IS.

UM, ESPECIALLY FOR THE DIALYSIS CENTER THAT IS THERE.

UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'M HAPPY TO TO ANSWER THOSE AS BEST AS I CAN.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILWOMAN REEVES? AND IT WILL LOOK SUBSTANTIALLY LIKE THE PICTURE, IT HAS THE BLACK BACKGROUND IN IT.

I THINK THAT STANDS OUT A LOT BETTER.

YES, IT WILL.

LOOKS GOOD.

UM, WE RECEIVED THOSE GUIDELINES FROM THE WINWARD PARKWAY ASSOCIATION FROM KIMBERLY, AND WE HAVE FOLLOWED THOSE STEP BY STEP LOOKS GOOD.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? THANK YOU MA'AM.

THANK YOU ALL.

SO WE HAVE HAD NO PUBLIC COMMENT, MS. OR HUSKY, WE HAVE NO COMMENT IN WRITING.

NO, SIR, WE DO NOT.

ALRIGHT, SINCE I DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL? YES, SIR.

MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU.

I MAKE A MOTION THIS EVENING TO APPROVE E DASH 26 DASH 0 2 6 1 2 0 WINDWARD PARKWAY SIGN EXCEPTION AS PRESENTED THIS EVENING BY MR. WOODMAN.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PROTO.

MR. MAYOR, IF I COULD ASK IF, IF THOSE ARE THAT MOTION TO BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AS STATED? YEAH, I THINK I, WHEN I SAID AS, AS PRESENTED, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THAT WOULD BE PART OF IT AS PRESENTED.

THANK YOU.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PROTO, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BRADY.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE YES.

AND IT DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY.

SO WE WILL MOVE ALONG TO THE NEXT ITEM.

NEXT ITEM ON

[C. V-26-16 Shirley/4290 Webb Bridge Road Detached Garage Variance
Consideration of a variance to allow a detached garage in the front yard of a single-family detached lot. A variance is requested from Unified Development Code (UDC) Subsection 2.3.3(C) to allow a detached garage in the front yard of a single-family detached lot. The property is located at 4290 Webb Bridge Road and is legally described as being located in Land Lot 1249, 2nd District, 1st Section, Fulton County, Georgia.]

MR. WOODMAN, ONCE AGAIN YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

THE NEXT ITEM FOR YOU IS A REQUEST FOR VARIANCE TO ALLOW A DETACHED GARAGE IN THE FRONT YARD OF A 1.65 ACRE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED.

LOT VARIANCE IS TO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE SUBSECTION 2.3 0.3 C TO ALLOW A DETACHED GARAGE, WHICH IS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO BE CLOSER TO THE STREET THAN THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE.

I HAVE THE LOCATION MAP ON THE PROPERTY, UH, UM, ON THE OVERHEAD.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 42 90 WESTBRIDGE ROAD.

IT'S NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF WESTBRIDGE AND SHIRLEY BRIDGE ROAD.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED R WHICH IS MINIMUM ONE ACRE LOT.

IT'S DEVELOPED WITH A ONE STORY OVER BASEMENT, 3,300 SQUARE FEET, APPROXIMATELY 3,300 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME.

LET'S SEE IF I HAVE A BETTER IMAGE HERE.

SO THIS IS THE PROPERTY HERE.

THE HOME IS SET BACK APPROXIMATELY 240 FEET FROM WESTBRIDGE ROAD AND IT SITS AT AN ELEVATION.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY 20 FEET HIGHER THAN THE FINISHED ELEVATION OF WESTBRIDGE ROAD.

AND I'VE GOT SOME STREET VIEW, UM, IMAGES TO SHOW YOU THAT THIS IS THE DRIVEWAY LEADING INTO THE PROPERTY.

YOU SEE, THERE'S PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL TOPOGRAPHY ALONG THE FRONTAGE AND, UM, ACTUALLY THE, I BELIEVE THE CITY WITH THE WESTBRIDGE ROAD PROJECT ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED THIS WALL HERE HOLDING UP THE PROPERTY.

THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT REQUIRES A RESIDENTIAL ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO COMPLY WITH THE SETBACKS AND THE YARD REQUIREMENTS, AND ARE SITUATED NO CLOSER TO THE STREET THAN THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE.

THE PROPOSED GARAGE.

SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN, WEBBAGE ROAD, EXISTING HOME, AND THEN THE DRIVEWAY LEADING TO THE HOME.

THE PROPO

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THAT TREE, THE, THAT EXISTING, UH, BUFFER AREA IS RIGHT ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY.

THE PROPOSED DETACHED GARAGE DOES MEET BUILDING SETBACKS.

SO THERE'S A FRONT, A 60 FOOT FRONT SET, UH, BUILDING SETBACK AS WELL AS 25 FOOT SIDE CELL, UH, SIDE SETBACKS.

AND THE STRUCTURE DOES MEET THE SIDE SETBACKS.

IT'S THE LOCATION IN THE FRONT YARD THAT REQUIRES THE VARIANCE.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE SURROUNDING AREA AND NOTED THAT THERE WERE OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE AREA WITH ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN THE FRONT, UH, WITHIN THE FRONT SETBACK.

SO IN THIS SAME GENERAL AREA OF SHIRLEY BRIDGE AND WE BRIDGE, WE FOUND THESE TWO STRUCTURES.

THIS IS ON A PROPERTY ON OFF OF SHIRLEY BRIDGE RIGHT PAST THE INTERSECTION.

AND THIS IS ALSO, UM, ON SHIRLEY BRIDGE, ON THE WALKER PROPERTY.

IT'S ACROSS THE STREET.

THE APPLICANT PROVIDED TWO RENDERINGS OF THE PROPOSED DETACHED GARAGE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THE, UH, THE APPLICANT IS SETTLED ON AN EXACT DESIGN, BUT THIS IS GENERALLY WOULD BE GIVE YOU A FLAVOR FOR THE DESIGN THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.

SO THE KIND OF FARMHOUSE STYLE AND LIKE A BARN TYPE STYLE.

UH, DISCUSS THE OVERALL SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE WITH THE APPLICANT.

UH, THE MAX, UH, FOOTPRINT ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT WOULD BE 36 BY 30 OR ABOUT 1,080 SQUARE FEET.

AND THEN THE HEIGHT WOULD NOT EXCEED 18 FEET TALL.

UH, THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR, UM, STORAGE AREA, UH, SPACE UP IN THE GABLE OF THE ROOF.

WE LOOKED AT THE REVIEW CRITERIA FOR A VARIANCE.

WE FOUND THAT THE PROP, UH, THE PROPERTY HAD EXCEPTIONAL AND PECULIAR CONDITIONS RELATED TO ITS TOPOGRAPHY.

AN APPLICATION OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD CREATE AN UNNECESSARY HARDSHIP.

LOCATION OF THE DETACHED GARAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 20 FOOT HIGHER THAN THE FINISHED ELEVATION OF WE BRIDGE ROAD.

THERE'S ALSO A HEAVY TREE BUFFER ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY.

JUST BRING THAT AERIAL BACK UP AND THE DETACHED GARAGE WILL NOT BE VISIBLE FROM WE, WE BRIDGE DESIGN IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN THE AREA, AND AS I MENTIONED, WE FOUND SIMILAR EXAMPLES IN THE AREA.

IF APPROVED, WE ARE RECOMMENDING A MINIMUM 25 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER BE MAINTAINED ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY.

THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN INDICATING THAT THEY HAD RECEIVED PUBLIC COMMENTS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.

AND THEN STAFF ALSO RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE FROM SHIRLEY ESTATES, WHICH IS THE, UH, SUBDIVISION SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS FROM THE WINWARD COMMUNITY SERVICES ASSOCIATION.

BOTH HOAS ARE SUPPORTING THE APPLICANT'S VARIANCE REQUEST.

AND AT THE AUGUST 12TH COMMUNITY ZONING INFORMATION MEETING, THERE WERE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND SUPPORT OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

AND SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE APPLICANT'S VARIANCE REQUEST, SUBJECT TO FOUR CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT IN YOUR PACKETS.

AND THOSE FOUR CONDITIONS DO LENT THE OVERALL BUILDING FOOTPRINT OF THE GARAGE TO 1080 SQUARE FEET AND A HEIGHT NOT TO EXCEED 18 FEET.

IT ALSO REQUIRES THE MINIMUM 25 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.

COUNCILMAN HEES.

MR. WOODMAN, YOU SHOWED A COUPLE OF OTHER EXAMPLES OF, UH, BUILDINGS TOWARD THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, IF I COULD SEE THOSE AGAIN.

ARE YOU REFERENCING THE BARN, SO THIS BARN AS WELL AS THIS, UM, TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, WOULD THOSE STRUCTURES HAVE, UH, PREDATED, UH, ALPHARETTA'S ANNEXATION OF THAT AREA? I, I DON'T KNOW A HUNDRED PERCENT.

OKAY.

UM, AND WHAT, WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN IS, UH, A VARIANCE ON THE MERITS VERSUS, YOU KNOW, STARTING A TREND WHERE THE EXCEPTIONS EAT UP THE RULE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THOSE ARE ANALOGOUS.

IF THEY WERE GRANDFATHERED IN BY VIRTUE OF THAT THEY WERE THERE WHEN WE ANNEXED THAT AREA, UH, UH, YEARS AGO.

AND, UM, JUST LOOKING AT THIS ONE ON THE MERITS AS OPPOSED TO WE'VE DONE

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UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA LOOK AT IT ON THE MERITS.

YEAH.

SO I'M INTERESTED IF YOU KNEW THE HISTORY.

YEAH, I DID NOT FIND A VARIANCE APPROVING THOSE TWO STRUCTURES THAT I PROVIDED EXAMPLES FOR.

RIGHT.

SO IT, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THE, THE PROPERTY IS, IS UNIQUE, UM, THE WAY IT'S SITUATED WITH, WITH THE BUFFER AND THE, THE ELEVATION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. WHITMAN? THANK YOU SIR.

MM-HMM .

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD? THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL PEOPLE FOR, UH, CONSIDERING THIS.

AND THANK YOU MICHAEL FOR HELPING PUT THIS TOGETHER.

UH, I'M BEN SHIRLEY, UH, HOMEOWNER 42 90 WEBB BRIDGE ROAD.

UM, AND I THINK MICHAEL'S DONE A GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? MUST HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MS. OR HUSKY, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS ON THIS ITEM? YES SIR.

WE DO.

WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT CARD IN FAVOR, GEORGIA BARRO, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I WANT TO, UH, I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF WCSA, WHICH IS THE MASTER ASSOCIATION BOARD DIRECTORS.

AND, UM, WE WERE INTERESTED IN THIS PARTICULAR ONE BECAUSE THIS WAS WARD'S FRONT DOOR, IF YOU WILL, ON WEB BRIDGE ROAD.

AND ALSO IT, IT WAS ADJACENT TO ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH IS SURELY ESTATES.

SO WE WANTED TO REALLY PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION.

I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE STAFF ON JUST REVIEWING EVERY LITTLE DETAIL AND GOING OVER SO MANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT.

THEY DID A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WE WOULD'VE EVEN ASKED.

SO, UM, THEY DID A GREAT JOB AND SUPPORT YOU.

WELL, MR. SHIRLEY WAS ALSO VERY, VERY GOOD TO WORK WITH.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO A BARN RAISING.

THANK YOU.

NOW, WAS THERE ANYONE WANTED TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? I DON'T SEE ANY COMING FORWARD.

SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNSEL? YES, MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

I'D LIKE TO PRESENT A MOTION THIS EVENING TO APPROVE V DASH 26 DASH 16 SIX SHIRLEY SLASH 4 2 9 OH.

WE BRIDGE ROAD DETACHED GARAGE VARIANCE AS PRESENTED THIS EVENING AS WELL AS THE CONDITIONS BY MR. WOODMAN.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

MAYOR, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PROTO.

SECOND, MY COUNCIL RITO.

ANY DISCUSSION AMONGST COUNCIL? SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE YES.

AND IT DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY.

CONGRATULATIONS.

SO WE'LL MOVE

[D. MP-26-12/CU-26-10 Veterinary Dental Specialist of Atlanta/Windward MP Pod 4
Consideration of a master plan amendment and conditional use to allow Veterinary Dental Specialist of Atlanta to operate in a 4,257 square foot suite in the Terraces at Windward shopping center. A master plan amendment is requested to the Windward Master Plan Pod 4 to add ‘Animal Hospital, Small Animal’ as a conditional use and a conditional use is requested to allow ‘Animal Hospital, Small Animal’ for Veterinary Dental Specialist of Atlanta. The property is located at 3070 Windward Plaza, Suites G & H-I and is legally described as being located in Land Lots 1048, 1107, and 1108, 2nd District, 1st Section, Fulton County, Georgia.]

MR. WOODMAN, YOU'RE STAYING BUSY TODAY.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

COUNSEL, THE NEXT ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A REQUEST FOR MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW ANIMAL HOSPITALS FOR SMALL ANIMALS.

AND THAT IS FOR VETERINARY DENTAL SPECIALISTS OF ATLANTA OR V-D-S-A-T-L, THAT WOULD BE IN A 4,257 SQUARE FOOT SUITE IN AN EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER.

MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT IS REQUESTED TO ADD ANIMAL HOSPITAL SMALL ANIMAL TO THE WINWARD MASTER PLAN POT FOUR.

AND A CONDITIONAL USE IS REQUESTED TO ALLOW AM MALL HOSPITAL FOR B-D-S-A-T-L.

AND I HAVE A LOCATION MAP ON THE OVERHEAD.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT

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IT'S IN SUITES GH AND I AND THIS IS THE TERRACES AT WINDWARD SHOPPING CENTER.

IT'S PROPERTY IS ZONED CUP COMMUNITY UNIT PLAN AND THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY IS COMMERCIAL, WHICH DOES SUPPORT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

THE TERRACES AT WINDWARD IS AN EIGHT ACRE PROPERTY DEVELOPED AS A RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER.

THE PRO THE MAIN BUILDING IS A TWO STORY BUILDING, LITTLE UNDER 64,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND THEN THERE ARE TWO SMALLER RETAIL BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL.

VARIETY OF BUSINESSES OPERATE IN THE CENTER, INCLUDING MELLOW MUSHROOM, J CHRISTOPHER'S, DICKEY'S BARBECUE PIT, THE UPS STORE AND HELIUM COMEDY CLUB.

THE APPLICANT'S BUSINESS, UM, IS LOCATED ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THIS TWO STORY BUILDING.

THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE ALLOWS ANIMAL HOSPITAL SMALL ANIMALS AS A PERMITTED USE IN THE LI LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.

AND THEN IT'S ALLOWED AS WITH A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE AG AGRICULTURE CUPC ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL ONI OFFICE INSTITUTIONAL AND THE PSC OR PLAN SHOPPING CENTER DISTRICT.

THE APPLICANT'S ANIMAL HOSPITAL, V-D-S-A-T-L IS A VETERINARY CLINIC PROVIDING SPECIALTY DENTAL SERVICES AS WELL AS CARDIOVASCULAR CARE TO PETS.

THE CLINIC WILL OFFER COMPREHENSIVE DENTAL CARE, DIAGNOSTICS, SURGERY, AND POSTOPERATIVE CARE.

THE BUSINESS DOES NOT PROVIDE BOARDING SERVICES.

THE, SO IT'S NOT A KENNEL, UH, OVERNIGHT STAYS WOULD BE LIMITED TO ANY PETS THAT ARE UNDER OP OBSERVATION AFTER SURGERY, THE HOURS OF OPERATION WOULD BE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 8:00 AM TO 5:00 PM AND THE APPLICANT IS ESTIMATING 12 TO 15 EMPLOYEES WITH THE BUSINESS.

THE APPLICATION INDICATES THAT ACOUSTICAL CEILING PANELS AND WALL INSULATION WILL BE INSTALLED THROUGHOUT THE HIGH NOISE AREAS OF THE SPACE CLINIC.

STAFF WILL ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO A PET RELIEF AREA LOCATED IN A LANDSCAPE AREA BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND WINDWARD PLAZA.

SO ORIGINALLY BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT HAD, THIS WAS THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

THEY WERE IN THE SAME SUITE.

THEY HAD THEIR PET RELIEF AREA OUT BY WINDWARD PARKWAY.

STAFF DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE CONCERN WITH THAT JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE, THERE IS EXISTING LANDSCAPING HERE.

THERE'S PRETTY GOOD BIT OF BUFFER IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

SO WE DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD BE VISIBLE, BUT PLANNING COMMISSION DID ASK THE APPLICANT TO GET WITH THE LANDLORD AND LOOK AT IF THERE WAS A BETTER LOCATION, MAYBE AT THE BACK OF THE BUILDING ALONG WINDWARD PLAZA.

AND SO THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S UPDATED, UH, PLAN.

YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEARLY HERE.

AGAIN, THIS IS THEIR SUITE.

THE PET RELIEF AREA IS IN A TREE ISLAND, UM, PROPOSED AT THE BACK OF THE BUILDING HERE.

SO, UH, THE STAFF AND, UH, CLIENTS OF THE LOCATION WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THAT PET RELIEF AREA AND THAT AREA WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY THIS BUSINESS.

WE LOOKED AT THE OTHER, UH, SIMILAR USES IN THE CITY.

WE NOTED THAT THERE ARE 11 ANIMAL HOSPITALS OPERATING OR APPROVED IN THE CITY.

UH, THE APPLICANT'S BUSINESS IS APPROXIMATELY 1100 FEET AWAY FROM THE NEAREST ANIMAL HOSPITAL, WHICH IS THE EDGEWOOD ANIMAL HOSPITAL AT 61 95 WINDWARD PARKWAY.

IT'S, UH, BELIEVE OVER OFF THE PAGE HERE, BUT IT'S A LITTLE OVER TO THE EAST.

THAT IS A FULL SERVICE VETERINARY OFFICE, WHEREAS THE APPLICANT SPECIALIZES IN DENTAL AND CARDIOVASCULAR CARE.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE TRIPS THAT WOULD BE GENERATED BY THE APPLICANT'S USE.

IT'S ESTIMATED THAT 15:00 AM AND 15:00 PM PEAK HOUR TRIPS WOULD BE GENERATED BY THE ANIMAL HOSPITAL.

AND THEN WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE REVIEW CRITERIA FOR THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE.

UH, WE BELIEVE THE PROPOSED USE WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND OTHER LOCATIONS OF THE USE, WHICH ARE SIMILARLY SITUATED IN RETAIL SHOPPING CENTERS.

IN FACT, MORE THAN HALF OF THE ANIMAL HOSPITALS THAT ARE OPERATING IN THE CITY ARE LOCATED IN MULTI-TENANT RETAIL CENTERS.

UH, THE APPLICANT'S BUSINESS IS, UH, WE ALSO NOTED THAT THE APPLICANT'S BUSINESSES SPECIALIZE IN DIFFERENT FROM, UH, THAN OTHER ANIMAL HOSPITALS OPERATING IN THE CITY.

UM, THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION, UH, REPORT INDICATING THAT THEY HAD RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, AND THEY RECEIVED PUBLIC COMMENTS IN SUPPORT

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THEN, AS I MENTIONED, PLANNING COMMISSION DID CONSIDER THIS ITEM AT THEIR SEPTEMBER 3RD MEETING.

THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THAT MEETING AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE STAFF'S EIGHT RECOMMENDED CONDITION.

AND AS I MENTIONED, THEY DID ASK THE APPLICANT TO WORK WITH THE LANDLORD TO MOVE THAT PET RELIEF AREA, WHICH THEY DID TO THE REAR OF THE BUILDING AND PLANNING COMMISSION'S VOTE WAS UNANIMOUS SEVEN OH VOTE.

AND THAT, UM, THE CONDITIONS OF ZONING OF COURSE, OR THE EIGHT CONDITION OF OF ZONING AND THE STAFF REPORT IN YOUR PACKETS, THEY LIMIT TO THE SUITES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED BY THE APPLICANT THE SIZE OF THE SPACE THAT'S IDENTIFIED, THE HOURS OF OPERATION.

OF COURSE, IT THE, UM, USE WOULD BE LIMITED TO V-D-S-A-T-L AS WELL.

UM, AND THE CONDITIONS ALSO ADDRESS THAT THERE WOULD BE NO BOARDING OF ANIMALS AT THIS LOCATION.

IT ALSO ADDRESSES THAT WEIGHT, UH, WASTE, UH, PET RELIEF, UH, AREA.

AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.

COUNCILMAN HIES.

MR. WOODMAN, I HEARD WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY ABOUT NO OVERNIGHT BOARDING, BUT I DON'T REALLY SEE THAT AS, UH, WRITTEN INTO THE CONDITIONS.

BUT WHAT I SEE THE CONDITIONS IN NUMBER FIVE IS LIMITED YES.

TO SHORT TERM, UM, SHORT TERM CARE INCIDENTAL TO HOSPITAL.

YES, YES.

THERE'S NO DEFINITION HERE OF WHAT SHORT TERM IS.

SO, UH, IF, IF EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT THAT THERE'S NO OVERNIGHT BOARDING, I'D LIKE TO SEE CONDITION FOUR IS SPELLED OUT.

SHORT TERM CARE AND NO OVERNIGHT BOARDING SUCH THAT IF, IF A, IF A PET COMES IN AT 4 45 ON FRIDAY, UH, TO ME IT WOULD BE SHORT TERM BOARDING TILL MONDAY MORNING IF THAT WAS INCIDENTAL TO THE HOSPITAL USE.

BUT THAT WOULDN'T BE FAIR FOR THE TENANTS, NOR WOULD THAT REFLECT WHAT THE AGREEMENT IS.

SO I, I'D LIKE NUMBER FIVE TO SAY WHAT IT MEANS AND MEAN WHAT IT SAYS.

SO EVERYBODY'S CLEAR UP FRONT THAT THERE'S NO OVERT BOARDING.

OKAY.

IS THAT OKAY? YEAH, CERTAINLY.

OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WAS INTENDED WITH CONDITION.

WELL, I KNOW THAT'S WHAT'S INTENDED, BUT I DON'T, I'M NOT, IN MY OPINION THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HERE.

OKAY.

COUNCILWOMAN REEVES, JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, COUNCILMAN HYPES, YOU ARE OKAY WITH THE OVERNIGHT STAYS RELATIVE TO, FOR EXAMPLE, PROCEDURES, THAT SORT OF THING? YES OR NO? 'CAUSE THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ANY OVERNIGHT STAYS WOULD BE RELATIVE TO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOUR DOG HAS A PROCEDURE AND AND THEY NEED TO BE WATCHED THAT NIGHT, THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO STAY.

THAT WOULD SO I MEAN THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND I UNDERSTOOD LISTENING TO MR. WOODMAN THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY OVERNIGHT STAYS.

SO MAYBE I MISSED THE PART ABOUT OVERNIGHT STAYS IF REQUIRED.

AND THEN I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR TENTS IN THIS BUILDING, UH, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MIGHT BE DOGS.

WHAT, WHEN THIS BUSINESS CLOSES AT 5:00 PM AND OTHER BUSINESSES ARE GOING ON, THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE COULD BE ANIMALS THERE MAKING NOISE OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

AND UH, YOU KNOW, IN THIS SORT OF, UH, STRIP CENTER ENVIRONMENT, THE, HE, UH, THE HELIUM COMEDY CLUB IS THERE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

I JUST, I I WANT SOME CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY'RE AGREEING TO, WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.

UNDERSTOOD.

SO IS IS PART OF IT THERE, THERE WILL BE OVERNIGHT.

SO WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS STATED IS THAT THERE THE ONLY OVERNIGHT THE BOARD AT ALL, THE ONLY OVERNIGHT WOULD ONLY BE FOR LIKE POSTOPERATIVE CARE, A SITUATION WHERE AN ANIMAL NEEDS TO BE MONITORED AFTER A SURGERY.

YEAH, I GUESS THAT'LL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND CAN PROBABLY PROVIDE BETTER CLARITY.

YEAH, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL ASK.

I GUESS I'M NOT FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

YOU KNOW, TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S AN, THAT'S A ANIMAL OR A PET THAT'S LEFT OVERNIGHT AND AND SOMEBODY GOES HOME AND THEN COMES BACK IN THE NEXT MORNING.

AND, UM, I I, I KNOW WHAT OUR DOWNTOWN ANIMAL HOSPITAL SOUNDS LIKE, UH, AT ANY GIVEN TIME AND I'M JUST TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE TO YEAH, THE ONE DOWNTOWN.

I MEAN, THERE'S FULL BOARDING KINDA GOING ON THERE THAT IS NOT, THAT IS A SEPARATE USE IN OUR CODE AND THAT IS NOT BEING REQUESTED AT THIS LOCATION WHATSOEVER.

ALRIGHT.

QUESTIONS? SORRY, I TURNED OFF MY MIC.

I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM MR. WOODMAN FROM COUNSEL.

SO IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AT THIS

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GOOD EVENING.

I'M STEVEN HORNBUCKLE WITH MISSION PET HEALTH ADDRESS IS 2 2 0 4 LAKE SHORE DRIVE, HOMEWOOD, ALABAMA 3 5 2 0 9.

AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME BEFORE YOU THIS AFTERNOON OR THIS EVENING.

AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY OF PERHAPS BRINGING OUR SPECIAL HOSPITAL TO THE AREA.

CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, MISSION PET HEALTH OPERATES OVER 970 VETERINARY HOSPITALS AND CLINICS ACROSS THE US AND 43 STATES.

OUR MAIN AREAS OF SPECIALTY IS GENERAL PRACTICE, URGENT CARE AND SPECIALTY HOSPITAL USES SUCH AS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE THIS EVENING.

UM, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UH, MR. HESS IN REGARDS TO OVERNIGHT STAYS AND THOSE TYPE OF SITUATIONS, UM, AS MR. WOODMAN STATED, ONLY ISSUE WOULD COME ABOUT IS IF A POTENTIAL PATIENT HAS TO HAVE POSTOPERATIVE CARE AND OBSERVATION.

THIS IS NOT A EMERGENCY TYPE OF HOSPITAL OR AN URGENT CARE HOSPITAL, SO ALL PROCEDURES WOULD BE SCHEDULED AROUND THE GENERAL HOSPITAL CLINICS SCHEDULE.

SO NO ONE SHOULD COME IN AT 4 45 TO HAVE A PET OPERATED ON OR SOME TYPE OF PROCEDURE.

SO EVERYTHING WILL BE SCHEDULED ACCORDINGLY.

BUT IN THE EVENT, SOMEONE OR, OR A PET HAS TO STAY AFTER HOURS, IT WOULD OBSERVE THE WHOLE TIME.

IT WOULD NOT BE ANY OVERNIGHT STAY PER SE IN TERMS OF LEAVING THAT PARTICULAR PATIENT OVERNIGHT BY THEMSELVES.

SO AT ALL TIMES THAT YOUR PATIENT OR THE PET WILL BE UP UNDER SOMEONE OR A VETERINARIAN OR STAFF MEMBER'S OBSERVATION THE WHOLE TIME, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COUNCILWOMAN REESE? I THINK YOU'VE ANSWERED LIKE MY QUESTIONS.

I, IT IT IS WHAT I KIND OF EXPECTED TO HEAR.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE HAD THOSE PETS THAT DIDN'T QUITE RECOVER ALL THE WAY BY FIVE O'CLOCK.

YES.

AND, AND THAT'S HAPPENED TO US BEFORE.

UM, SO I, I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND I ACTUALLY THINK THAT IT'S GOOD THAT THERE'LL BE SOMEONE THERE TO OBSERVE THEM THE WHOLE TIME.

YES.

IF I MIGHT AS WELL, UM, PART OF THE STIPULATION OF DESIGN WITHIN OUR PARTICULAR SUITE THERE, UH, WE WILL, UH, INSTITUTE SOUND SIMULATION MATERIALS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS.

SO ALL EXAM ROOMS AND PATIENT CARE ROOMS, ALL THE WALLS WILL BE EXTENDED FROM THE FLOOR SLAB TO THE CEILING WITH BAT INSTALLATION WITHIN THE WALLS.

SO EVERYWHERE THAT THE ACTUAL PATIENT WILL BE HOUSED OR TREATED WILL HAVE SOUND IN CONTINUATION MATERIALS AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS ALL THE PERIMETER WALLS OR DEMISING WALLS BY CODE HAS TO GO FROM FLOOR TO CEILING AS WELL.

AND ONE PARTICULAR BENEFIT OF THIS PARTICULAR SUITE IS WE DO HAVE A SERVICE CORRIDOR THAT RUNS BEHIND THIS PARTICULAR SUITE.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER SOUND MITIGATING MEASURE THAT'S IN PLACE THERE AT THE PROPERTY.

COUNCILMAN HYPES? UM, I I THINK YOU MOSTLY ANSWERED MY CONCERN, BUT I HEARD THE WORD PER SE.

UH, I DON'T THINK, UH, I THINK YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE THE PATIENTS WOULDN'T BE OVERNIGHT PER SE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YES.

IF THEY'RE BEING, UH, OPERATED ON AND THEY NEED OBSERVATION AND YOU CLOSE AT FIVE O'CLOCK, IS THERE A SITUATION WHERE THEY NEED, THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO BE OBSERVED FOR MORE THAN SEVEN HOURS PAST MIDNIGHT? ARE THEY GONNA STAY OVERNIGHT? NO.

NO.

THERE SHOULD NOT BE A NEED FOR AB EXCELLENT.

OVERNIGHT STAY.

SO WE COULD ACTUALLY PUT THAT INTO THE CONDITION AND IT WOULDN'T INFRINGE UPON THE WORK THAT YOU DO, CORRECT? NO, IT SHOULD NOT INFRINGE UPON IT.

I GUESS THE BIGGEST THING IS THAT IF THEY DID RUN PAST FOUR AT FIVE O'CLOCK MM-HMM .

SOMEONE WOULD ACTUALLY BE THERE WITH THEM.

I KNOW WE DID SPECIFY THAT BUSINESS WOULD OPERATE FROM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY UNTIL 5:00 PM BUT WE DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE EVENT OBSERVATION HAD TO GO ON, THAT WOULD EXTEND PAST FIVE POINT.

YEAH, I I I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT OBSERVATION WITH SOMEONE THERE GOING INTO THE, YOU KNOW, LATE AFTERNOON, EARLY EVENING HOURS, BUT IF IT'S 1, 2, 3 O'CLOCK AND YOU'RE PAYING SOMEBODY TO WATCH A PET, AND IF THAT PERSON'S NOT THERE AND IT'S A BEAGLE AND IT'S, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, MAKING NOISE ALL NIGHT AND THERE'S OTHER BUSINESSES THAT RUN LATE THERE, THEN I DO HAVE A CONCERN.

YES.

BUT IF YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT NOBODY'S GONNA BE

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YES.

OKAY.

MAYOR PRO TIM.

ALRIGHT.

I, I'M, I'M HEARING THE CLARITY GO BACK AND FORTH.

I'M HEARING DOWN HERE THAT NO PET WILL STAY OVERNIGHT.

I'M HEARING HERE THAT IN THE CASE OF MEDICAL NECESSITY IT COULD BE OVERNIGHT AND IT WOULD BE WITH SOMEBODY THERE THE ENTIRE TIME.

SO I DON'T WANNA SAY THAT THEY GOTTA BE KICKED OUTTA THERE BY TWO IN THE MORNING OR THREE OR FOUR.

UM, GOD BLESS YOU.

YOU CAN WATCH MY PUPPY UNTIL I CAN GET THERE AT SIX IN THE MORNING OR SEVEN VERSUS COMING AT FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING TO PICK THESE THINGS UP.

UH, I DON'T WANT TO PUT GUIDELINES ON THIS BECAUSE WHAT I HEARD FROM THE BEGINNING WAS YES, IN A MEDICAL SITUATION WE WOULD NEED TO KEEP THE PET UNDER OBSERVATION AND IT COULD BE OVERNIGHT IN THE SAME TIME WE HEARD THERE WOULD BE NO BOARDING.

CORRECT.

THIS IS NOT A BOARDING SITUATION.

THIS IS NOT WITH THE BEAGLE IN THE CAGE.

WE'LL COME BACK IN THE MORNING AND SEE HOW HE IS DOING.

SO, UH, I'LL, I'LL LET YOU, UH, HE, HE'S ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

I'M JUST MAKING SURE FROM, FROM YOUR BODY LANGUAGE THAT YOU, THAT I'M COMING THROUGH THE WAY I'M SAYING IT, I, I WILL SAY MR. HYPES, THAT IN TERMS OF THE GENERAL GUIDELINES OF THE HOSPITAL ITSELF, WHAT WAS PAINTED IS, IS CORRECT THAT THERE WILL NOT NOT BE BOARDING, THERE WILL NOT BE ANY PLANNED OVERNIGHT STAYS, BUT IN TERMS OF, WE CAN'T PREDICT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE WITH AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, UH, WITH A PET GOING UP UNDER SAY, ANESTHESIA OR THE PROCEDURE ITSELF.

SO I CAN'T SAY A HUNDRED PERCENT, UH, IN FACTUALITY THAT IF AN EMERGENCY COMES ABOUT BASED UPON A PROCEDURE, YOU KNOW, WE MAY, WE MAY NOT, WE MAY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WATCH A PET OVERNIGHT.

I I JUST WANNA MAKE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

COUNCILMAN RE I WOULD AGREE WITH MAYOR PRO TAM.

I'VE, LIKE, I WE HAVE TOO MANY DOGS IN MY LIFE AND, UM, IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING HAPPEN TO THEM, I HOPE THAT I DON'T HAVE TO GO RUN OUT AT MIDNIGHT TO GO GET MY DOG BECAUSE IF THE DOG NEEDS TO STAY OR THE CAT WHATEVER, NEEDS TO STAY THERE FOR OBSERVATION, THEN THAT'S, YOU'VE OUTLINED, THEY'LL BE OBSERVED SO THAT, UM, SOMETHING DOESN'T HAPPEN THAT COULD HAPPEN TO THEM DURING THE NIGHT.

THEY, THEY'LL BE BETTER WATCHED THAN THEY WOULD BE IN MY HOUSE.

'CAUSE I'M NOT STAYING UP ALL NIGHT TO WATCH MY GUT.

SO I THINK I, I THINK THAT'S, I AGREE.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APP COUNCIL DORITO, JUST POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

SO WHAT, WHAT IS THE CONDITION THEN ON THE OVERNIGHT STUDY THAT THERE WILL BE NO CONDITION, RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE AGREEING ON? BECAUSE I, I I, WE HAVE THREE DOGS RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE HAD FOUR.

MY WIFE'S STILL TRYING TO BRING IN MORE INTO THE HOUSE, SO WE GO TO THE BED A LOT.

THEY GET BETTER HEALTHCARE THAN I DO.

UM, AND WE PROBABLY WOULD PICK 'EM UP AT THREE IN THE MORNING IF WE HAD TO.

UH, WELL MY WIFE WOULD SEND ME, LET'S BE, JUST TO BE CLEAR, ANYWAY, BUT OUR EXPERIENCE WITH OUR DOGS ALL OUR LIFE IS WHEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE SURGERY FOR WHATEVER, WHEN THEY GET OLDER, GERIATRIC, WHATEVER, UM, THEY HAVE TO STAY THERE SOMETIMES OVERNIGHT.

IT'S JUST, AND I WOULD WANT 'EM TO, TO GET PROPER CARE.

RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE A WOULD QUESTION FOR THE APP? NO, MY, MY APP MY, MY QUESTION IS, WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO JUST BE ABLE TO SAY THAT THERE COULD BE OVERNIGHT STAY AND SO THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW WE ENFORCE IT.

IF WE SAY TO YOU, YOU LIMIT IT, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

SO I JUST WANT YOUR OPINION AS, AS YOU KNOW, IN THE BUSINESS.

I MEAN, I'M JUST BEING HONEST.

SO WE'RE NOT PUTTING A LIMITATION ON YOU THAT YOU CAN'T FULFILL.

YES, SIR.

I, I DISAGREE.

AND, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT'S MY RESERVATION AS WELL.

WE'RE NOT PUTTING LIMITATIONS ON, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT YOU CAN'T PREDICT IN THE FUTURE.

SO YES, SO I DEFINITELY AGREE THAT THE INSTANCE MAY ACTUALLY ARISE WHERE, YOU KNOW, BASED UPON THE PROCEDURE ITSELF AND HAVING TO OBSERVE THE PATIENT, THERE MAY BE A NEED TO KEEP THE, THE ACTUAL PATIENT OVERNIGHT FOR OBSERVATION.

SO IF I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WHEN WE COME TO THE DISCUSSION PORTION OF THIS DECISION, THAT'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SORT IT OUT TO A CONDITION THAT WE FEEL ADAPTABLE.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANKS SIR.

VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.

MS. OR HUSKY, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS IN THIS ITEM? NO.

MR. MAYOR, WE DO NOT.

HOWEVER, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO DO SO.

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DO WE WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION TO SORT OUT WHAT THE, OR THE, UH, I THINK I'VE GOT IT.

YOU'VE GOT IT.

IF WE'RE OPEN FOR A MOTION.

YES SIR.

MR. MAYOR, I'D OFFER A MOTION THIS EVENING TO APPROVE MP DASH 26 DASH 12 SLASH CU DASH 26 DASH ONE ZERO VETERINARY DENTAL SPECIALIST OF ATLANTA WINDWARD MP POD FOUR, ADDING TWO CONDITION NUMBER FIVE TO STATE THAT OVERNIGHT STAYS FOR MEDICAL PROCEDURE RECOVERY SLASH POST-OP, UH, WILL BE PERMITTED.

OBSERVATION YES WITH OBSERVATION.

SO THERE'LL BE SOMEBODY THERE THE ENTIRE TIME.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM.

SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN REEVES.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN HYDE? NO, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY I APPRECIATE MAYOR PRO TE'S UH, CLARIFYING CONDITION.

FIVE.

UH, I THINK AS WRITTEN IT NEEDED A LITTLE BIT OF, OF IMPROVEMENT.

I THINK THAT REFLECTS WHAT THE APPLICANT SAID HE WOULD DO.

AND, AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD CLARIFICATION.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON COUNCIL SINGMAN? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE, PLEASE VOTE YES.

AND IT DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY.

CONGRATULATIONS.

LET'S SEE, THE OTHER PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS HAVE BEEN DEFERRED, SO WE MOVE ON TO

[A. Resolution: Adoption of Service Delivery Strategy Agreement
Consideration of a Resolution to adopt the Fulton County Service Delivery Strategy and authorize it to be transmitted to the Georgia Department of Community Affairs.]

NEXT ITEM IS THE RESOLUTION FOR ADOPTION OF SERVICE DELIVERY STRATEGY AGREEMENT.

MR. ATTORNEY? GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR.

YOU'LL BE CONSIDERING A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA, GEORGIA APPROVING THE SERVICE DELIVERY STRATEGY ACT AGREEMENT WITH FULTON COUNTY AND THE OTHER CITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

MR. LAGER BLOOM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

YES.

UH, GEORGE'S SERVICE DELIVERY ACT IS FOUND IN TITLE 36, AND IT WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED IN 1997.

UH, THE INTENT OF THE SERVICE DELIVERY STRATEGY ACT WAS TO AVOID DUPLICATION OF REDUNDANCY IN, IN SERVICES THAT THE GOVERNMENT PROVIDES, SO THAT IF THE COUNTY PROVIDES SOMETHING OR THE CITIES PROVIDE IT, THAT WE DON'T JOINTLY BOTH DO THE SAME THING.

UM, IT WAS AN ACT THAT, UH, REQUIRED THE SERVICE DELIVERY STRATEGY TO BE NEGOTIATED AMONGST THE CITIES AND THE COUNTIES.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UM, SINCE 2009, THAT HAS, UH, NOT OCCURRED BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME DISPUTES OVER, UH, SPECIFICALLY WATER AS IT RELATES TO SANDY SPRINGS AND THE CITY OF ATLANTA.

AND THE REMEDY WHEN THERE WAS THAT DISPUTE WAS TO JUST HOLD THE SANCTIONS IN ABEYANCE SO THAT THERE WAS NO, UH, RAMIFICATION FOR NOT HAVING AN ADOPTED SERVICE DELIVERY STRATEGY.

2025.

THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, UM, CHOSE TO, UH, FORCE OUR HAND AND REQUIRED THAT BEFORE DECEMBER 30TH, 2026, THAT THE CITIES IN ALL COUNTIES IN GEORGIA, UH, AS WELL AS THE COUNTY ADOPTIVE SERVICE DELIVERY STRATEGY.

SO, UH, WE BEGAN IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.

UH, WE WENT THROUGH METHODICALLY ALL OF THE, UH, 69 SERVICES THAT THE SDS CONTEMPLATES.

UM, WE'VE WORKED AT ANY DIFFERENCES THAT WE'VE HAD.

UM, WE'VE HAD THINGS ADDED TO THE DIFFERENT, UH, SERVICES THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE ADDED TO THEM.

UM, IT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO TRANSMIT THIS NOW TO THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.

UH, THEY WILL REVIEW IT, THEY WILL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS OR SUGGESTED CHANGES.

I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WILL LIKELY BE MANY, IF ANY.

UM, AND THEN, UH, WE WOULD, UH, SIGN ON TO THE SERVICE DELIVERY STRATEGY BEFORE THE DEADLINE, WHICH IS DECEMBER 31ST, 2026.

AND, UH, WE CAN PROCEED WITH ANY, UM, ANY BAD THINGS HAPPENING TO US.

WHEN I SAY BAD THINGS, WHAT THAT MEANS IS TYPICALLY GRANT FUNDING GETS FROZEN.

UH, THE THINGS LIKE TS PLUS THAT WE'RE USED TO OR MIG FUNDS OR ANY OF THOSE GRANTS THAT COME THAT FUNNEL THROUGH THE STATE, UM, THOSE ARE, THAT'S WHAT'S AT RISK BY NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH ADOPTING THIS.

UM, I'VE COME WITH A FULL RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT THAT IT IS OKAY AND ACCEPTABLE TO ADOPT THIS.

WE SHOULD TRANSMIT IT.

UM, IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'VE NEVER TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE, UH, WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE SINCE 2009.

AND SO, UH, UM, WITH THAT, I'LL HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, UM, AND WE'LL SEEK YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS, UH, RESOLUTION TONIGHT.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MUST HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU.

MR. LAGER.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL? YES, SIR.

MR. MAYDOFF FOR MOTION? HOLD ON.

SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

WE NEED TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? NO, MS. MAYOR, WE DO NOT.

THERE'S IRONY IN THAT.

THANK YOU FOR KEEPING ME HONEST, BUT IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD NOW, IT'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO AND I STILL DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD.

SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

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MR. MAYOR , UH, I WOULD OFFER A MOTION THIS EVENING TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, ADOPTED RESOLUTION TO ADOPT A SERVICE DELIVERY STRATEGY AGREEMENTS PRESENTED BY MR. GERBO THIS EVENING.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR TUUM AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS COUNCILMAN BRADY BACK THERE.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE YES.

AND IT DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY.

SO NOW, MS. OR HUSKY, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? NO.

MR. MAYOR, WE DO NOT.

HOWEVER, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD, NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO COME FORWARD.