* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] GOOD [1. CALL TO ORDER] EVENING, EVERYONE. THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND PUBLIC HEARING, NOVEMBER 9TH, 2026. GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. NOTE FOR THE RECORD, ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ARE PRESENT AND ACCOUNTED FOR. AND AS ALWAYS, WE BEGIN OUR MEETINGS WITH A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. SO IF YOU'RE WILLING AND ABLE, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN US. AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A GIRL SCOUT TROOP THAT'S GONNA LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE TODAY. FOLKS, FREEDOM IS NOT FREE. WHEN YOU SEE A VETERAN, YOU WALK UP TO THEM, SHAKE THEIR HANDS, LOOK THEM EYEBALL TO EYEBALL, AND THANK THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY. WHEN YOU SEE A FIRST RESPONDER, YOU WALK UP TO THEM AND SHAKE THEIR HANDS AND LOOK THEM EYEBALL TO EYEBALL AND THANK THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND NOW WE HAVE THE GIRL SCOUTS. AND PLEASE JOIN THEM AND PLEDGE AN ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. LET'S HEAR IT FOR THE GIRL SCOUTS. SO WE HAVE A FEW PROCLAMATIONS [A. Proclamation: Veteran's Day 2026] THAT WE'LL BE ADDRESSING THIS EVENING. FIRST WILL BE THE PROCLAMATION FOR VETERANS DAY, 2026. I BELIEVE I'M GOING TO BE PRESENTING TO SOME OF OUR VETERANS, SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME JOIN ME. AND I HAVE TWO OF THESE. ONE IS FOR THE CITY TO KEEP ON BEHALF OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND ONE IS FOR THEM TO TAKE WITH THEM. I'M SORRY? ONE IS FOR THE CITY TO KEEP ON BEHALF OF ITS VETERAN EMPLOYEES AND ONE IS FOR THEM TO TAKE WITH THEM. OKAY. YES. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. YOU'RE VERY WELCOME, MR. MAYOR. ANY OF Y'ALL LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? WE WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA FOR RECOGNIZING OUR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING HOST 201 TO BE IN ALPHARETTA, GEORGIA. I'LL READ PROCLAMATION AND IT'S A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA GEORGIA, VETERANS DAY 2026. WHEREAS RESIDENTS OF ALPHARETTA IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA LIVE FREEDOM BECAUSE OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS AND PERSONAL SACRIFICES MADE BY THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED AND CURRENTLY SERVED IN THE ARMED FORCE. AND WHEREAS THE WORDS OF THE FIRST VETERAN SAY PROCLAMATION SIGNED BY PRESIDENT EISENHOWER SHALL BRING TRUTH THAT US SOLEMNLY REMEMBER THE SACRIFICES OF ALL THOSE WHO [00:05:02] ON THE SEAS, IN THE AIR, NOT FOREIGN SHORES. RESERVE OUR HERITAGE OF FREEDOM AND LET US RECONSTRATE OURSELVES THE TASK OF PROMOTING AND ENDURING PEACE SO THAT THEIR EFFORTS AND WHEREAS OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES HAVE ALWAYS PROVIDED THEIR BEST AND BRIGHTEST INDIVIDUALS. WE REMEMBER WITH SOLEMNLY GRATEFUL HEARTS THOSE WHO SERVE IN THE MILITARY PRAYER FOR THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO WE WILL ENDEAVOR TO ALWAYS HONOR THE CONTRIBUTIONS AND SACRIFICES THAT MILLIONS WHO HAVE OVER THE CENTURIES SERVED IN THE MILITARY AND TENS OF THOUSANDS. AND WHEREAS WE ARE PROUD TO RECOGNIZE OUR COUNTRY'S VETERANS AND EXTEND THE APPRECIATION OF OUR CITIZENS FOR THOSE WHO WEAR THE UNIFORMS OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES AND SERVE ON THE FRONT LINES OF BUILDING OUR FREEDOM LIVERS. NOW THEREFORE WE, THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA HEREBY RECOGNIZE NOVEMBER 11TH. 2026 APPRECIATE THE SACRIFICES AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF OUR VETERANS WHO FOUGHT FOR PEACE AND. WE MUST NEVER FORGET FREEDOM. THE NEXT [B. Proclamation: The Piedrahita Sisters] PROCLAMATION IS PROCLAMATION FOR THE PIEDRAJITA SISTERS. AM I EVEN CLOSE? OKAY. PLEASE COME FORWARD SO WE CAN RECOGNIZE YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING? YES. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU SO MUCH TO GOD FOR PROVIDING US WITH OUR HEALTHY BODIES TO PERFORM THE INCREDIBLE SPORT OF TRIATHLON. SECOND, THANK YOU SO MUCH TO OUR ENTIRE FAMILY AND OUR SWIM COACH LUKE FOR SUPPORTING US ALONG THIS INCREDIBLE JOURNEY. THIRD, THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA FOR PROVIDING US WITH THESE AMAZING PARKS, WHICH IS WHERE WE'VE DONE MOST OF OUR TRAINING. AND WITHOUT WILLS PARK, WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE INTRODUCED TO THE SPORT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS HONOR. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS A PROCLAMATION BY THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA, GEORGIA, FRANCESCA BUCHIANA AND ARABELLA PIEDRAJITA, TRIATHLON CHAMPIONS. WHEREAS THE TRIATHLON IS A MULTI-SPORT EV- EVENT WHICH IS SPLIT BETWEEN THREE PHASES, SWIMMING, BIKING, AND RUNNING. THE EVENT HAS ITS ROOTS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, BUT IS SPREAD ACROSS THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES. AND WHEREAS THE PIEDRAJITA SISTERS HAVE COMPLETED IN EVENTS MANAGED BY USA TRIATHLONS DURING THE 2025 AND 26 SEASONS, THE YOUTH TRIATHLON LEADERBOARD IN GEORGIA AND SOUTH CAROLINA IS DETERMINED BY A CUMULATIVE OF A PARTICIPANT'S TOP FOUR FINISHES. ALL THREE SISTERS HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL ACCOLADES AND WERE REPEATEDLY ACKNOWLEDGED AS TOP COMPETITORS IN RACE SERIES ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST. AND WHEREAS ARABELLA PIEDRAJITA IS THE YOUNGEST OF THE PIEDRAJITA SISTERS AND WAS RUNNER-UP STATE CHAMPION FOR BOTH THE 2025 [00:10:01] AND 2026 YOUTH TRIATHLON STATE SERIES IN GEORGIA AND SOUTH CAROLINA. IN 2026, ARABELLA PIEDRAJITA THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT RACES EARNED A CUMULATIVE SCORE OF 190, WHICH GAVE HER THE SECOND HIGHEST SCORE FOR THE NINE-YEAR-OLD GIRLS SERIES AGE GROUP. AND WHEREAS LUCIANA PIEDRAJITA IS THE SECOND SING - THE SECOND YOUNGEST OF THE PIEDRAJITA SISTERS. SHE WAS STATE CHAMPION FOR BOTH THE 2025 AND 2026 YOUTH TRIATHLON STATE SERIES IN GEORGIA AND SOUTH CAROLINA. IN 2026, LUCIANA PIEDRAJITA THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT RACES EARNED A CUMULATIVE SCORE OF 200, WHICH GAVE HER THE HIGHEST SCORE FOR THE 11-YEAR-OLD GIRL SERIES AGE GROUP. AND WHEREAS FRANCESCA PIEDRAJITA IS THE OLDEST OF THE PIEDRAJITA SISTERS. SHE WAS RUNNER-UP STATE CHAMPION IN 2025 AND STATE CHAMPION IN 2026 YOUTH TRIATHLON STATE SERIES IN GEORGIA AND SOUTH CAROLINA. IN 2026, FRANCESCA PIEDRAJITA THREW FOUR DIFFERENT RACES, EARNED A CUMULATIVE SCORE OF 109, WHICH GAVE HER THE HIGHEST SCORE FOR THE 14-YEAR-OLD GIRLS SERIES AGE GROUP. NOW, THEREFORE, WE, THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE FRANCESCA, LUCIANA AND ARABELLA PIEDRAJITA FOR THEIR SUCCESS AS TRIAN - TRIATHLON ATHLETES AND WISH THEM SUCCESS IN FUTURE COMPETITIONS. SO PROCLAIMED THIS NINTH DAY OF 2026 BY THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL OF CITY ALPHARETTA, GEORGIA. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. MS. MATHERLY, [C. Service Recognition: Design Review Board Member Kimbrle Matherly] WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN US? OH, OKAY. YOU WANNA COME UP? PARDON? OH, OKAY. YEAH, I'M NOT SURE I HAVE ONE OF THOSE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? SERVING ON THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD WAS AN ABSOLUTE BLAST. THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. I MEAN, I, I LEARNED A LOT. I WAS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN A LOT OF THE PLANNING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CITY CENTER. UM, THAT WAS AMAZING TO WATCH AND IT'S REALLY SOMETHING TO SEE. AND RICHARD KRAMER MADE IT PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST EXPERIENCES ANYBODY COULD HAVE ON THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD FOR HIS KNOWLEDGE AND HIS TREMENDOUS SENSE OF HUMOR. SO THANK YOU. IT WAS A PLEASURE FOR ME. IS THAT OKAY? YES, ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS ABOUT YOU, NOT ME. SO BEFORE I READ THE PLAQUE, I'D JUST LIKE TO LET MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT WHILE THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA IS VERY BLESSED TO HAVE OVER 500 EMPLOYEES THAT HELP MAKE ALPHARETTA THE PLACE WE ALL LIVE IN AND ENJOY NOW, BUT WHAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE IS WE ALSO, ALSO HAVE HUNDREDS OF VOLUNTEERS WHO SH - SERVE ON VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ALL THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. AND WHILE THEY'RE NOT PAID, THEY'RE NOT EMPLOYEES, THEY ARE A CRITICAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND VOLUNTEERS LIKE MS. MS. NATALIE AND RICHARD KRAMER ARE [00:15:01] GREAT EXAMPLES OF THAT. AND SO AS KIMBERLY IS STEPPING DOWN, WE THOUGH WE'D RECOGNIZE THAT. WELL, ALL I, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST, I USED TO HAVE TO BRING MY HEATER, MY OWN HEATER TO PUT UNDER THE TABLE BECAUSE IT WAS SO DARN COLD IN HERE. IF YOU COULD JUST MAKE LITTLE HEATERS UNDERNEATH THERE FOR WINTERTIME, IT WOULD BE GREAT. I MEAN, I WOULD BRING A PONCHO TO WRAP AROUND MY COAT AND A HEATER TO PUT UNDER. RICHARD'S LEGS STAYED REALLY WARM, AS DID FRANK'S, BUT JUST A SUGGESTION. YOU GET THAT, CHRIS? I HEARD IT. OKAY. MR. LAGERBLOOM IS OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. RICHARD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? AGAIN, THANK YOU, KIM, FOR YOUR SERVICE. YOU'VE, YOU KNOW, BEING AN ALTERNATE MEANS YOU HAVE TO BE ON CALL FOR EACH OF OUR MEETINGS ONCE A MONTH. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DID FOR US. AND YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR HOMEWORK WHEN YOU SERVE ON A BOARD, SO THANK YOU FOR DOING ALL THAT. SO WE APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DID FOR US AND LOOK AT THE, JUST LOOK AROUND THE CITY, YOU CAN SEE YOUR IMPACT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. AND I, I JUST WANNA ADD TOO THAT WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER FOR OVER 10 YEARS AND YOU'VE JUST BROUGHT SO MUCH EXPERIENCE TO THE BOARD. WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE. YOU'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS A GREAT PRODUCT FOR THE CITY. AND THE DRB MEETING, IT'S ABOUT ANYWHERE FROM FOUR TO SIX HOURS, UH, EVERY, YOU KNOW, A FRI - ONE FRIDAY EVERY MONTH. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF REVIEW OF YOUR PACKETS BEFORE THEN. YOU HAVE TO VISIT THIS, THE SITES. SO IT'S BEEN AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF YOUR TIME AND WE'RE, WE HAVE A LOT OF GRATITUDE TO YOU FOR THAT. SO THANK YOU. MY PLEASURE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO PREDID THIS PLAQUE PROCLAMATION. THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA HEREBY RECOGNIZE KIMBERLY MATHERLY FOR YOUR COMMITMENT AND SERVICE TO THE CITY'S DESIGN REVIEW BOARD FOR THE PAST 10 PLUS YEARS. YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS BOARD ARE EVIDENCED BY THE SUPERIOR QUALITY OF OUR CITY, AND WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOUR MANY HOURS OF SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. THAT'S COMMITTED BY JIM GILVIN, THE MA... PARDON? WAS THAT FROM MEMORY? FROM MEMORY. WOW, THAT WAS AWESOME. NO, I WAS READING. OH, IT DID SAY THAT. I DIDN'T HAVE MY GLASSES ON. I'M LIKE, "WOW, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB." THAT'S WHY I WEAR GLASSES. BUT THANK YOU. WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SERVICE, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AROUND IN OTHER CAPACITIES. OKAY. THANK YOU. AWESOME. THANK YOU, MA'AM. SO THE NEXT [5. CONSENT AGENDA] ITEM UP ON OUR AGENDA IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF THE CITY COUNCIL STRATEGIC PLANNING RETREAT MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 15TH, THE CITY COUNCIL STRATEGIC PLANNING RETREAT MINUTES FOR OCTOBER 16TH, THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FROM THE MEETING OF OCTOBER 19TH, AND THE PUBLIC ART APPLICATION, WILLS PARK TEMPORARY INSTALL OF KINETIC SCULPTURE. MR. SHAPIRO, IS THERE ANYONE WHO HAD PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA? WE DO NOT, MR. MAYOR. HOWEVER, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THAT ITEM, NOW'S YOUR CHANCE. I DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD, SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL? SO... SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN REEVES. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE YES. AND IT DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY, SO WE'LL [A. Request For Proposals 26-118: Alpha Loop Stormwater BMP Design Consideration of approval of the award of RFP 26-118 to Halff for the Alpha Loop Stormwater BMP Design in an amount not to exceed $71,674, and authorize the Mayor to execute all necessary documents. ] MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS. [00:20:05] FIRST ITEM UNDER NEW BUSINESS IS THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS 26-118, ALPHA LOOP STORMWATER BMP DESIGN. DIRECTOR SISEVICH, YOU HAVE THE HONORS. YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, SO ILLUSTRATED ON THIS PICTURE IS THE ALPHA LOOP BEHIND THE NORTH WINDS OFFICE DEVELOPMENT, AND THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS RIGHT THERE. THERE'S A SMALL BRIDGE, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE ALPHA LOOP THERE. AND THE 40-INCH DISCHARGE PIPE FROM THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S PREEXISTING THE ALPHA LOOP IS ERODING THE STREAM OUT WHERE THE BRIDGE IS. UM, SO WE'VE DONE QUITE A FEW FIXES, UH, WHILE THE CONSTRUCTION WAS GOING ON, BUT, UM, THOSE FIXES ARE NOT WORKING TO THE LEVEL THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN FOR MAINTENANCE PURPOSES. SO WORKING WITH THE, UM, OFFICE COMPLEX OVER THERE, THEY HAVE PROVIDED US CURRENTLY A, UM, TEMPORARY ACCESS POINT WHERE THE TRAIL IS DEPICTED RIGHT HERE, ACCESS DOWN TO CONSTRUCT A OFFSITE, UM, OFFLINE, UM, BMP BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE STORMWATER SYSTEM. WE WENT OUT FOR AN RFP, HALF WAS THE, UM, HIGHEST RANKED FIRM, AS WELL AS ONE OF THE LOWER COST FIRMS AS WELL AT $71,674. THERE IS NO S - TIME SCHEDULE FOR THIS PROJECT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET A STATE PERMIT, AND THAT IS GONNA CONTROL THE, UM, APPROVAL PROCESS. SO I'D LIKE TO SAY WE'D BE DONE IN THREE MONTHS OR SIX MONTHS, BUT IT COULD TAKE SIX TO NINE MONTHS JUST TO GET THE PERMIT. AND THEN ONCE WE GET THE PERMIT, THEN WE'LL GO OUT FOR A BID FOR CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. SISEVICH ON THIS ITEM? COUNCILWOMAN REEVES? SO AS I SEE HERE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WILL BE, UM, ACTUALLY ADDITIONAL U - ADDITIONAL USAGE FOR THE, UM, OFFICES THAT ARE THERE BECAUSE THAT, THAT ACCESS ROAD WILL THEN CREATE A NEW WALKWAY. CORRECT. YES. THAT'S A POSITIVE THING TO GET OUT OF THIS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. MS. SHAPIRO, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS ON THIS ITEM? WE DO NOT, MR. MAYOR. HOWEVER, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD, NOW'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SAY SO. I DO NOT SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD, SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL. YES, MR. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AWARD OF RFP 26-118 FOR THE ALPHA LOOP STORMWATER BMP DESIGN SERVICES FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $71,674 AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN REEVES, A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BRADY. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE YES. AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL. THANK YOU, PETE. NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE [B. Contract and Purchase Approval: Fiscal Year 2027 Tree Planting along Webb Bridge Road and along State Route 9 (North Main Street) Consideration of approval of the award of a contract to Russell Landscape for the Fiscal Year 2027 tree-planting project in an amount not to exceed $1,296,535.09, including the purchase, installation, and watering of trees along the Webb Bridge Road Phase 2B and along State Route 9 (North Main Street) corridor improvements; and with authorization for the Mayor to execute all necessary documents.] NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS THE CONTRACT AND PURCHASE APPROVAL, FISCAL YEAR 2027, TREE PLANTING ALONG WEBRIDGE ROAD AND ALONG STATE ROUTE NINE NORTH MAIN STREET. MAYOR COUNCILS, UH, WE'RE STARTING TO GET TO THE END, UH, LANDSCAPING GOING IN, UH, ALONG STATE ROUTE NINE, NORTH OF STATE ROUTE OF ACADEMY STREET, AS LONG AS, AS WELL AS THE WEBB BRIDGE ROAD CORRIDOR, THE MIDDLE SECTION, WE HAVE TO CALL IT, UH, FROM BASICALLY THE GREEN, UH, GREENWAY TO THE ROUNDABOUT. ROSA LANDSCAPE IS OUR ON-CALL VENDOR. UM, ABOUT A MONTH OR SO AGO, WE EXTENDED THEIR CONTRACT TO INCORPORATE FOR THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS WHERE THEY WILL PLANT THE LANDSCAPE, THE TREES AND THE SHRUBS, AS WELL AS MAINTAIN IT, UH, FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. SO OUR CONTRACT WAS GONNA EXTEND, IT WAS GONNA EXPIRE, UM, NEXT YEAR AND WOULDN'T DO US ANY GOOD TO PLANT TREES AND THEN HAVE A DIFFERENT VENDOR TRYING TO MAINTAIN SOMETHING THEY DID NOT PLANT. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT INSTALLING 271 TREES, UM, ALONG WEBRIDGE ROAD THAT IS APPROXIMATELY, UM, THREE LANE MILES. IT'S ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF IN EACH DIRECTION. UM, NOT THE WHOLE CORRIDOR GETS PLANTED WITH TREES. WE PLANT TREES WHEN THERE'S A SIX-FOOT PLANTING STRIP. UM, ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS, UM, COST IS INSTALLING OVER 6,900 LINEAR FEET OF ROOT BARRIER. ROOT BARRIER PREVENTS THE TREE ROOTS FROM UPLIFTING OUR SIDEWALK AND OUR CURB AND GUTTER, SO IT IS A, UM, EXPENSE THAT, UM, WILL PAY FOR ITSELF LONGEVITY-WISE, SO OVER THE YEARS. AND THEN ON MAIN STREET, WE'RE LOOKING AT PLANTING 260 TREES AND DOING ROOT BARRIER OUT THERE AS WELL IN THAT AREA. UM, PLANTINGS WILL TAKE PLACE SOMETIME IN DECEMBER, JANUARY, AND FEBRUARY. WE'VE BEEN ABNORMALLY WARM, UM, THIS SEASON [00:25:01] SO FAR, AND SO T - UH, PULLING THE TREES OUT OF THE TREE FARMS IS NOT THE BEST TIME, SO THEY'LL EX - UH, PROBABLY LOOKING AT JANUARY OF DOING THIS WORK. NOW, WE UNDERSTAND THE STATE ROUTE NINE'S NOT COMPLETED. UM, WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE GDOT PROJECT MANAGER AND HAVE COORDINATED A MEETING, UH, WHERE THEIR BIGGEST CONCERN IS IF OUR CONTRACTOR BREAKS SIDEWALK OR BREAKS CURB AND GUTTER, WHO'S GONNA FIX IT? WE WILL BE FIXING IT. OUR CONTRACTOR WILL BE FIXING THE SIDEWALK THAT THEY BREAK. UM, I DON'T SEE THAT BEING A REAL BIG ISSUE BECAUSE WE HAVE EIGHT FOOT ASPHALT BUFFER THAT WE COULD, UM, MOBILIZE AND PLANT OUR, UM, PARK THE CARS AND TO ACCESS THE SITE THAT WAY. WEBB RIDGE ROAD, THE UTILITIES ARE NOT ALL RELOCATED. WE ARE VERY WELL AWARE OF THAT. UM, AND WE HAVE HAD THE COMMUNICATION WITH GEORGIA POWER REGARDING SUCH, AND THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE COMMUNICATION WITH AT&T AS WELL. AND WE'VE LET THEM KNOW, JUST LIKE IF THEY TEAR UP OUR SIDEWALK AND DAMAGE OUR CURB AND GUTTER, IF THEY DAMAGE OUR TREES, THEY'LL BE REPLACING OUR TREES AS WELL. AND WE'VE HAD COMMUNICATION WITH THAT. MORE RECENTLY, IT'S FRIDAY. COUNCILWOMAN REEVES AND I MET WITH GEORGIA POWER TO DISCUSS A LOT OF THESE MEASURES, AND THEY'RE VERY WELL AWARE, AND AS WE GET CLOSER, WE'LL HAVE MORE, UM, INPUT ON THAT, UM, AS YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF TREES. THE LAST THING I'VE HEARD IS THE SPACING OF THE TREES RELATED TO WHERE THE, UM, LIGHT POSTS ARE. UM, THE STREET LIGHTS ARE DOWNWARD LIGHTING, SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RUCKER AND WEBRIDGE IS, UH, WEBB BRIDGE, THEY SHOOT STRAIGHT DOWN IN ALL DIRECTIONS, WHERE ALONG RUCKER, THEY SHOOT UP, UM, IN ALL DIRECTIONS. SO THE TREE PLANT HAS TAKEN CONSIDERATION OF ALL THE LIGHT POSTS THAT ARE OUT THERE. UM, WILL EVERLY IN THE OFFICE DESIGNED THE, UM, LANDSCAPE PLAN, SO HE'S AWARE. HE ALSO OVERSEES ALL THE MAINTENANCE OF THE LANDSCAPE AS WELL, SO HE IS VERY WELL AWARE WHERE THESE LIGHT POSTS ARE, AND, UH, WE HAVE MANY EXPERTS OF TREES AND OF LANDSCAPING ALONG THAT CORRIDOR. UM, I COULD REST ASSURED THAT THE TREE, THE RIGHT TREE IS IN THE RIGHT SPOT BASED OFF OF WILL'S EXPERTISE. SO, UM, SO, SO PUBLIC WORKS IS RECOMMENDING MOVING FORWARD WITH RUSSELL, UM, AT A TOTAL COST OF $1,296,535.09. AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN BRADY? PETE, IT'S KIND OF TRIVIAL, BUT IT'S HAPPENED IN A COUPLE CORRIDORS WHERE WE LOOK AT, UH, SOIL COMPACTION, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT CAME TO RUSSELL. THEY, THEY, I THINK THEY DID RUCKER BEFORE. ANYTIME IT'S BETWEEN TWO CONCRETE PIECES, THEY GO IN, YOU GOT THAT GROUND SOIL, IT'S LIKE 25% SOIL, IT'S GOT SOME PULP, YOU GOT SIX INCHES, AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, IT SHRINKS, AND YOU GOT FOUR OR FIVE INCHES THAT IT KIND OF COMES OFF, CREATES UNSAFE FOR, FOR THOSE PIECES. CAN YOU MAKE SURE THAT THE DIRT'S COMPACTED CORRECTLY? SO WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THE SOIL THAT YOU HAD ON, EXCUSE ME, THE SOIL YOU HAD ON RUCKER, UM, TURNED OUT TO BE, UM, A F, AN OVERSIGHT FOR PUBLIC WORKS. WE THOUGHT WE, UH, WITH THE ORGANIC MATTER WOULD HELPED OUT THE CONDITIONS MORE, IT JUST SETTLED MORE. SO WE WOULD CHANGE OUR SOIL THAT WE BRING IN THERE SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE. UH, WE'VE ALREADY USED IT ON WEBRIDGE, PORCH TO WEBBRIDGE ROAD, AND IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL. BUT YES, RUCKER ROAD, IT DID SETTLE. WE'VE HAD TO BRING IN MORE SOIL, LIFT UP THE ROOTS AND ALL THAT, SO WE'RE VERY WELL AWARE OF THAT OVERSIGHT. COOL. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN HYMES? UH, DIRECT PETE, APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING UP ABOUT THE SPACING OF THE TREES. I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, UH, OFF AND ON. IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO SOME OF OUR ATTENTION UP HERE BY RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY ALONG WEBB BRIDGE ROAD. UM, IT... OVER THERE BY ALPHARETTA HIGH SCHOOL, SOME OF THE EARLY TREE PLANTING, IS THAT INDICATIVE OF, UH, WHERE THE, THE, THE VENDOR PUT THE TREES IN AT THE CORRECT SPACING OR WERE THEY C- CROWDED IN THERE AND NEEDED TO BE CORRECTED? UH... GOOD MEMORY. YES, THEY WERE PUT IN INCORRECTLY, UM, AND THEY HAD TO BE RELOCATED, AND WHEN THEY RELOCATED, THE WARRANTY PERIOD STARTED FROM DAY ONE AGAIN. OKAY. SO THE, THE SPA - EITHER A, THEY HAD A, A DRAWING NOT TO SCALE, OR THEY READ THE SCALE WRONG OFF THE DRAWING, UH, BUT THEY WERE TOO CLOSE. AND, AND I WANTED TO DRAW THAT OUT AND ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE WHAT PEOPLE'S, UH, INITIAL REACTION WAS WITH SOME CROWDED TREES AND OVERCOMING THE, THE, THE, THE NICE LIGHT FIXTURES THAT WE'VE INSTALLED AND, UM, UH, FOR, FOR THEIR BENEFIT, FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THAT CORRIDOR, WE, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA RE - WANT THEM TO BE ASSURED THAT THE SPACING OF THE TREES WILL BE AS INTENDED. UM, AND THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE PACKET, I SAW IT'S A TWO-YEAR WARRANTY. IS THAT STANDARD OR IS THAT, UH, IS THAT A NEGOTIATED WARRANTY? SO, TYPICALLY, YOU HAVE A ONE-YEAR WARRANTY, UM, ON LANDSCAPING. IF YOU GO TO A NURSERY, YOU GET A ONE-YEAR WARRANTY. WE DO TWO, UM, SO WE PAY A LITTLE BIT EXTRA, BUT WE'VE ALWAYS DISCOVERED THAT THE TWO-YEAR WARRANTY, THE VENDORS TEAM TAKE A LITTLE BETTER CARE IN YEAR ONE. TO ENSURE THAT [00:30:01] AT YEAR TWO IT WILL SURVIVE AND THEN WE'VE HAD A BETTER SUCCESS RATE. AND, AND RUSSELL HAS A GOOD HISTORY WITH HONORING, UH, WARRANTY CLAIMS? VERY MUCH SO, SIR. OKAY. AND LASTLY, UH, WITH THIS PARTICULAR, UH, ITEM HERE, THAT'S, THIS IS EXCLUSIVE OF SHRUBBERY THAT GOES IN AT ANOTHER POINT? CORRECT. THE SHRUBS WILL PROBABLY BE, UH, THAT PLAN IS BEING DESIGNED, UM, RIGHT NOW. AND WE'LL PROBABLY COME BACK AT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR WITH THE SHRUBS BEING INSTALLED, COME BACK TO FLORIDA COUNCIL FOR AWARD, AND THEN THE SHRUBS WILL BE INSTALLED AFTER THE LAST FROST DATE OR RIGHT AROUND THE LAST FROST DATE. AND, AND WE HAVE A, A... I KNOW THERE'LL BE A PRICE THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED, BUT DO WE KNOW WHERE, WHERE THAT FALLS? UH - I DO NOT KNOW RIGHT NOW, NO. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. SISEVICH? COUNCILWOMAN REEVES? UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED BEFORE WE GOT HERE TONIGHT AND YOU, UM, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER IT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A PRETTY COMMON QUESTION AND IS, WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED ABOUT PUTTING TREES IN AND THE TYPES OF TREES AND THE SHAPE OF THEM SO THAT FROM A MAINTENANCE PERSPECTIVE, AS WE PUT THESE TREES IN, WE ALL LOVE THE TREES, BUT NOBODY REALLY LIKES LARGE MAINTENANCE TABS. SO YOU HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ME ABOUT THE THINGS THAT YOU, YOUR TEAM HAS LEARNED. COULD YOU SHARE THAT WITH COUNCIL? YES. SO ONE OF THE TREES THAT'S ON RUCKER ROAD IS THE VITEX TREE. UH, VITEX TREE GETS PRUNED EVERY YEAR, BUT IT HAS SOME VERY STRONG OFFSHOOTS AND IT GROWS PRETTY QUICKLY. IT'S TURNED OUT TO BE A HAZARD IN THE BIKING, SO WE'VE HAD TO DO A LITTLE MORE MAINTENANCE THAN WE'D LIKE TO HAVE IN THAT AREA. WILL EBERLE, WHO DESIGNED THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, OVERSEES THE PLANTINGS OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, ALSO OVERSEES THE MAIN - EXCUSE ME, OVERSEES THE MAINTENANCE OF WHAT TAKES PLACE WITH ROSS LANDSCAPE. UM, AND SO HE HAS A BACKGROUND, A CREATIVE BACKGROUND, AND HE DESIGNS THE LANDSCAPE PLANTS FOR MULTI-SEASONS. SO WHAT ISN'T JUST IN THE SUMMER OR JUST IN THE FALL, IT'S ALL FOUR SEASONS THAT WE HAVE. UM, SO HE PICKS DIFFERENT TREES, UM, IN TR - GIVEN INTEREST TO THE CORRIDOR ALL YEAR ROUND. UM, HE CHOOSES TREES THAT HAVE A CANOPY. HE CHOOSES TREES THAT HAVE A MORE OF A PYRAMID SHAPE, AS WE CALL IT. I'M NO TREE EXPERT, BUT HE HAS TAUGHT ME WELL THAT HE PUTS THE RIGHT TREE IN THE RIGHT SPOT TO MINIMIZE THE LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE THAT WE HAVE. WE WILL HAVE MAINTENANCE ALONG THE CORRIDOR. WE WILL HAVE PRUNING THAT NEED TO TAKE PLACE. UM, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S A MULTI-USE CORRIDOR FOR BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS AND MOBILITY. SO WE WILL BE REMOVING THE EYE POKERS AS WE CALL THEM, UM, EVERY YEAR THAT COMES THROUGH. SO IT'S, UM, BUT IT'S A, IT'LL BE A BEAUTIFUL CORRIDOR ONCE, ONCE AND DONE. I MEAN, RUCKER ROAD, PEOPLE LOVE IT NOW. WE STILL HAVE THE FLOOR. UM, YOU MENTIONED THE MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH GEORGE POWER ON FRIDAY, AND I WANNA THANK YOU FOR GETTING THAT SET UP AND FOR IN GETTING ME INVITED TO THAT BECAUSE AS MANY OF US HAVE MENTIONED, WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT THE ROADS THAT ARE NOT DONE AND WE HEAR AN AWFUL LOT. AND I, I FIND MYSELF TELLING THE COMMUNITY A LOT, "IT'S THE UTILITIES. IT'S THE UTILITY." AND, UM, IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY INFORMATIVE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE TO HEAR WHAT HAS ACTUALLY GONE ON THERE AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED. BUT I THINK FOR OUR PURPOSES, FOR OUR COMMUNITY, UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA DO D - BUSINESS DIFFERENTLY. AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE WANT A SITUATION LIKE THIS TO HAPPEN AGAIN. AND I WILL SAY THAT IT WAS MADE VERY CLEAR IN THAT MEETING IT WAS NOT ALPHARETTA'S FAULT. IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT ALPHARETTA SENT THE PLAN SIX YEARS AGO AND, UM, UTILITIES FELL DOWN ON THIS ONE. AND, UM, AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE GOOD NOW. AND I THINK THAT, UM, DIRECTOR SEZEVICH IS WORKING TO GET A MULTI-UTILITY MEETING TOGETHER, UM, TO GET THEM TO COORDINATE. BECAUSE AS YOU COME DOWN THE POLE, YOU GOT GEORGIA POWER AND THEN YOU GOT AT&T AND THEN YOU GOT COMCAST AND YOU GOT AT&T AGAIN. SO THEY ACTUALLY ALL CAN'T DO IT AT ONE TIME, SO THAT HAS TO BE COORDINATED. AND THERE SEEMS TO BE A HUGE INTEREST ON GEORGIA POWER'S - YEAH. PART TO NOT WANT TO HAVE ANY EGG ON THEIR FACE. SO I THINK THAT THEY'RE INCLINED TO TRY AND HELP US FACILITATE THAT. SO THANK YOU. YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN TRYING TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. IT'S BEEN FRUSTRATING FOR EVERYBODY. COUNCILMAN HINES. UH, DIRECTOR PETE, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE, UH, STAFF REPORT, I SEE THAT ONE OF THE TWO FUNDING SOURCES IS THE TREE REPLACEMENT FUND. YES, SIR. AND IS THAT THE FUND THAT... WHAT IS THAT FUND? IT'S THE TREE, IT'S QUOTE UNQUOTE THE TREE BANK. UM, DEVELOPERS WHO CANNOT PLANT ENOUGH TREES ON THEIR PROPERTY WRITE A CHECK TO THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA, AND THEN WE UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS TO PLANT TREES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO, UH, IF, IF I WAS TO SORT OF RECAPS, YOU KNOW, REITERATE WHAT YOU JUST SAID THAT, SO WHEN TREES ARE CUT DOWN, THEY'RE NOT [00:35:01] GONE FOREVER. THEY, THEY'RE PAID INTO A FUND AND THESE TREES DO APPEAR IN, IN STRATEGIC AREAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY PAID FOR BY THE TREES THAT WERE CUT DOWN BY THE DEVELOPER. CORRECT. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANKS, SIR. THANK YOU. MS. SHAPIRO? WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS FOR THIS ITEM, SIR. HOWEVER, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, NOW IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. DO NOT SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD, SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL? YES, MAYOR. UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AWARD OF A CONTRACT TO RUSSELL LANDSCAPE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2027 TREE PLANNING PROJECT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,296,535.09, INCLUDING THE PURCHASE, INSTALLATION, AND WATERING OF TREES ALONG WEBB BRIDGE ROAD PHASE 2B AND ALONG STATE ROUTE NINE NORTH MAIN STREET CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN REEVES, A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN HIPES. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OKAY. COUNCILMAN HYPES? YEAH, I'D JUST LIKE TO PAUSE AND TAKE A MOMENT AS A COUNCIL AND AS A CITY. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THESE OCCASIONAL AHA MOMENTS, YOU KNOW, WE, AN AHA MOMENT. WE PASSED $15 MILLION FOR A, A SEGMENT OF A TRAIL SYSTEM, BUT THAT'S REALLY WHAT SETS OUR CITY APART, MAKES US SPECIAL. YOU KNOW, TONIGHT'S VOTE ISN'T THE SHRUBBERY, IT'S JUST THE TREES. $1.3 MILLION TO, UH, REINVEST IN OUR CITY, TO BEAUTIFY OUR CITY, A CITY THAT JUST WAS, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST WEEK RECOGNIZED AS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, 15TH BEST IN THE COUNTRY IN ARCHITECTURAL DIGEST. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO HEAR A LOT ABOUT THE LOSS OF TREES, BUT WHEN I DRIVE AROUND THE CITY AND SEE SOME OF THE CORRIDORS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED FIVE PLUS YEARS AGO AND LOOK AT THE TREE PLANTINGS, UH, THERE IS A PLAN IN PLACE AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL. AND I, I APPRECIATE THAT IT'S BEING FOLLOWED. I APPRECIATE THE INVESTMENT. I THINK THE PEOPLE ON THE EAST SIDE OF, UH, 400 ARE GONNA LOVE THE INVESTMENT, MUCH LIKE THE FOLKS ON THE RUCKER ROAD CORRIDOR. AND I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO PAUSE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VOTE FOR 1.3 MILLION DOLLARS FOR TREES ON CORRIDORS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, TO BEAUTIFY OUR CITY, WHICH IS OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, FULLY SUPPORT THAT. THANK YOU. SHRUBBY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE YES. AND IT DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL. GREAT JOB, PETE. NEXT [C. Resolution: Fiscal Year 2026 Bulletproof Vest Partnership Grant Application Consideration and adoption of a resolution authorizing the submission of the 2026 Bulletproof Vest Partnership Grant to the U.S. Department of Justice, and with authorization for the Mayor to execute all necessary documents.] ITEM IS THE RESOLUTION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 BULLETPROOF VEST PARTNERSHIP GRANT APPLICATION. MS. S. WEIN. A RESOLUTION BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ALFRED, GEORGIA, AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF THE BULLETPROOF VEST PARTNERSHIP GRANT APPLICATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CHIEF LANGREN. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, I HAVE THE, UH, REQUEST FOR THE ADOPTION OF THIS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF THE 2026 BULLETPROOF VEST PARTNERSHIP GRANT WITH THE USDOJ. THIS IS AN ANNUAL GRANT THAT WE DO TO HELP FUND BULLETPROOF VEST FOR THE ORGANIZATION. IT IS A MATCHING GRANT, SO THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE 50% MATCHING OF THE FUNDS. THIS IS, UM, COMING THROUGH EXISTING, THROUGH, THROUGH OUR EXISTING FUNDING IN OUR BUDGET. AND, UM, ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THE, THE TITLE OF THIS IS THE 2026 BULLETPROOF VEST PARTNERSHIP GRANT, BUT WE'RE CURRENTLY SPENDING THE 2025 PARTNERSHIP GRANT FUNDS. THESE FUNDS WILL BECOME AVAILABLE TO US TOWARDS THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR AND WILL BE PUT INTO PLACE IN THE 2027 YEAR, AND THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDING WOULD COME THROUGH, COME FROM. IF IT'S, UH, NOT COVERED BY THE GRANT FUND, WE WOULD PICK UP THE SUPPLEMENT FROM OUR UNIFORM BUDGET, UM, IN 2027. UM, THE, THE, THE, UH, THE PREDICTED NEED IS ABOUT 31 VESTS BASED ON THE STAFFING IN THE JAIL AND THE PD, AND THEN ALSO THE FACT THAT THESE VESTS EXPIRE ON A FIVE-YEAR BASIS. SO WE KEEP A ROLLING LIST OF WHOSE VESTS ARE UP FOR RENEWAL, AND THAT'S WHEN WE, WE PLAN AHEAD BASED ON WHAT THE FUNDING IS. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. MAY I APPROACH HIM? CHIEF, JUST QUICK, WHAT'S THE TECHNOLOGY LIKE CHANGING WITH THE BULLETPROOF VESTS OR THE... THE, THE BIGGEST CHANGE THAT WE'VE SEEN LATELY IS THE FACT THAT, WELL, AL- ALMOST ALL OF OUR OFFICERS NOW, THEY GO TO OUTER CARRIERS, SO THAT TAKES A LOT OFF THE, OFF THE HIPS. THAT'S A BIG CHANGE IN TERMS OF THE SUPPORT OF THAT, BUT ALSO THAT ALLOWS, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT OUTER CARRIER SUPPORT, IT ALLOWS YOU TO PUT IN, UM, AN UPGRADED ARMOR PLATE IN THERE, THE REALLY LIGHT, LIKE HIGH DENSITY PLASTIC PLATES THAT ARE ABLE TO STOP RIFLE ROUNDS, BUT THEY DON'T WEIGH [00:40:01] REALLY ANY MORE THAN THE STANDARD TRADITIONAL KEVLAR VEST. SO THEY KEEP IMPROVING THE TECHNOLOGY IN TERMS OF THE FACTORS. LIKE TECHNICALLY, THEY DON'T EVEN USE KEVLAR ANYMORE. THEY USE DYNEMA AND THEY USE ALL THESE OTHER, UH, SPECIAL FABRICS, SPACE AGE FABRICS. BUT ULTIMATELY, IT'S THE, IT'S THE ABILITY OF THE, THE, THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE MATERIAL, BUT ALSO THE STRENGTH OF THE MATERIAL IN A LIGHTER PACKAGE, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR MORE PROTECTION AND IT ALLOWS THE OFFICERS A LITTLE BIT EASIER ABILITY TO, TO MOVE AND TO BREATHE AND TO TAKE A BREAK, TAKE THE VEST OFF WHILE THEY'RE WORKING. ANY CHANGE IN PRICING OR DOES IT JUST CONTINUE TO... THE, THE PRICING... WELL, THE PRICING HAS GONE UP. I MEAN, IT GOES UP PRETTY CONSISTENTLY JUST WITH THE COST OF MATERIALS AND INFLATION. THE ONLY REAL ADDITION TO COST IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, THOUGH, IS THE FACT THAT WE CHOSE TO OFFER THOSE ARMOR PLATES, AND THAT'S BEEN THE BIGGER, THE BIGGER COST. BUT THOSE FOR US ARE... THEY'VE COME DOWN IN PRICED SO MUCH AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY BECOME SO LIGHTWEIGHT THAT THE OFFICERS ACTUALLY WANT TO WEAR THEM. IN THE PAST, IT HAD BEEN HEAVY CERAMIC PLATES OR HEAVY METAL PLATES THAT NOBODY WANTED TO WEAR AND NOBODY WANTED TO PAY FOR EITHER. SO WE NEVER WENT DOWN THAT ROAD, BUT THE TECHNOLOGY NOW ALLOWS US TO, RATHER THAN HAVE THE, THE ADDITIONAL, UM, BAILOUT GEAR IN THE CARS WHERE WE USED TO HAVE THE OVER VESTS THAT WOULD GO ON IF YOU HAD A, A RESPONSE TO AN ACTIVE SHOOTER, NOW THE OFFICERS ARE ALWAYS WEARING SOMETHING THAT CAN PROTECT THEM IF THEY HAVE TO ENGAGE WITH THAT, THAT HAS A RIFLE OR A HIGH, HIGH, UH, CALIBER HANDGUN. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTION? COUNCILMEMBER BRADY? CHIEF, I WANNA THANK YOU. I KNOW WE, UH, WE HAD WORDS, RIGHT? WE, WE KINDA GO BACK AND WE COMMUNICATE. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM A, FROM A FISCAL PERSPECTIVE, THE FIRST THING THAT ALWAYS TRIGGERS ME IS ALWAYS KINDA LOOK AT IT AS A... IS IT PLANNED OR IS IT IN YOUR BUDGET? I ALWAYS LOOK AT THIS FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD OR DIRECTOR IS TO KINDA TAKE A LOOK AT IT AS THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW ARE COMING, WE NEED TO PLAN FOR THOSE THINGS. AND ANY GRANTS OR ANY APPLICATIONS THAT WE'RE DOING, I THINK WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AS A CITY TO BE ABLE TO FIND THESE SUPPLEMENTAL S - UH, UH, FUNDING SOURCES THROUGH GRANTS, THROUGH DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. BUT THE IDEA IS SOME OF THESE THINGS, WE'RE, WE'RE SOMEWHAT AT RISK GOING FORWARD IN SEVERAL THINGS. WE TALK ABOUT THEM ALL THE TIME. WE TALK ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES AND ALL THESE THINGS. THE IDEA IS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE APPLYING FOR THINGS THAT WE DON'T KNOW WOULD BE THERE AT THE END, THAT WE PLAN FOR THE WORST. WE PLAN FOR THAT NOT TO BE THERE IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT? SO THAT'S KIND OF MORE OF A FISCAL BUDGETING KINDA GOING FORWARD. I APPRECIATE YOUR WORDS AT THAT BECAUSE MY, MY FIRST IS LIKE, WHY DON'T YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR BUDGET, RIGHT? WE, WE HAD A LOT OF KINDA CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT. I WANNA APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND REALLY KINDA GOING THROUGH IT AND APPRECIATE YOUR PLANNING BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD UNIFORM BUDGETS. WE COULD'VE TAKEN IT OUT OF THERE. TECHNICALLY, IT'S IN OUR FISCAL BUDGET. WE COULD'VE WORKED FOR IT, BUT ANYTIME IT'S OF RECORD AND YOU DIDN'T PLAN FOR IT, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE WOULD HAVE CONVERSATIONS AND ULTIMATELY AS AN ORGANIZATION WE WOULD. BUT THANK YOU FOR GOING THROUGH THAT. BUT I'M SAYING THAT AS A RECORD ALSO BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT MORE FISCAL CONVERSATIONS, SO JUST WANNA APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DID HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILWOMAN REEVES? I'M NOT SURE I TOTALLY GOT THE ANSWER ON WHY IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN INCLUDED. SO, LIKE, MY... I HAD THE SAME QUESTION. I WAS LIKE, WHY WOULD IT... WE'RE IN NOVEMBER AND THE YEAR STARTED JULY 1ST, AND I... IF THE, IF THE GRANT'S APPLIED FOR EVERY YEAR, AS INDICATED, IS THAT HOW IT'S ALWAYS, LIKE, CALCULATED LIKE THIS, IS COMES AFTER THE FACT? YES, MA'AM. SO THE, THE FEDERAL BUDGET STARTS AT A DIFFERENT TIME. WE CAN'T APPLY FOR THIS GRANT UNTIL OCTOBER. THAT'S WHEN THE, WHEN THE GRANT BECOMES AVAILABLE TO US, AND THEN WE DON'T GET THE FUNDING TYPICALLY SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS UNTIL AFTER IT'S BEEN AWARDED. SO WE, LIKE, WHEN I CAME EARLIER THIS YEAR TO, TO SPEND THE MONEY ON THE VESTS, THAT WAS THE MONEY THAT HAD BEEN AWARDED FROM THE 25 GRANT. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT NOW, IS WE'RE ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR BASICALLY NEXT YEAR'S GRANT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S THE 26, THE 26 GRANT IS THE TITLE OF IT, BECAUSE IT'S THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S YEAR. AND SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE BUDGET GOES, AND I THINK TO COUNCILMAN BRADY'S POINT, UM, IT, IT WAS ACTUALLY INTERESTING TO ME AS WELL THAT THE WAY THAT WE HAD TYPICALLY DONE THIS IN THE PAST IS WE HAD USED THE CITY'S GRANT FUND TO PROVIDE THOSE MATCHING FUNDS, BUT NOW WE HAVE TO USE DIFFERENT FUNDING IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT MATCH BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT, UH, FILLED THAT BACK UP. SO WE'RE, WE'RE PLANNING FOR THAT, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT GOING FORWARD, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL ADD A LINE ITEM INTO THE BUDGET SO THAT IT'D BE THERE. BUT IT WAS JUST, UM, IT WAS AN INTERESTING THING THAT THIS WAS JUST THE WAY IT'S BEEN DONE FOR AT LEAST 10 YEARS, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AND SO WE'RE MAKING THOSE ADJUSTMENTS JUST TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, TRANSPARENT. GREAT. SO PLANNING FORWARD, THIS IS NOT THE WAY IT'LL BE DONE. IT'LL JUST BE DONE IN A, IN, IN A MORE TRADITIONAL WAY, SO WE CAN PLAN... WE'LL KNOW ON JULY 1ST WHAT OUR EXPECTED EXPENSES ARE. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT, LIKE, BUDGET FOR THE WHOLE AMOUNT, AND THEN WE'LL MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT BASED ON ANY GRANT FUNDING THAT WE - OKAY. THAT'S RECEIVED. YEAH, THAT, THAT'S WHAT, WHAT GOES ON IN MY HEAD. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. YES, MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF? THANK YOU, SIR. YES, SIR. MS. SHAPIRO? [00:45:01] WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS FOR THIS ITEM, SIR. HOWEVER, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, NOW IS YOUR CHANCE TO DO SO. DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD, SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL? MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 BULLETPROOF VEST PARTNERSHIP GRANT APPLICATION, CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF THE 2026 BULLETPROOF VEST PARTNERSHIP GRANT TO THE US DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, AND WITH THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DRISCOLL. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BRADY. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE VOTE YES. AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MS. ESWINE, I BELIEVE [D. Resolution: 2026 JAG Grant Consideration of approval of a Resolution approving the BJA FY 2026 Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance Grant (JAG), and with authorization for the Mayor to execute all necessary documents.] THE NEXT ITEM IS THE RESOLUTION FOR THE 2026 JAG GRANT. A RESOLUTION BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ALPHARETTA, GEORGIA, APPROVING THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION IN THE 2026 EDWARD BYRNE MEMORIAL JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT, JAG PROGRAM, AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF REQUIRED DOCUMENTS. ONCE AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, CHIEF. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR. THE, UH, THIS GRANT IS... IT'S A GRANT THAT WE RECEIVE AS A PART OF A PARTNERSHIP THROUGH FULTON COUNTY TO SHARE WITH A BUNCH OF AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. AND SO THE, THE, THE ASK TONIGHT IS THE CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF THIS RESOLUTION ALLOWING US TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS GRANT, WHICH REQUIRES THAT THE, THE FEDS REQUIRE A INTERJURISDICTIONAL MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN THE COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS FUNDING. UM, THE, THE DOWNSIDE IS THAT WE JUST DON'T GET THE FUNDING IF WE DON'T PARTICIPATE, BUT IT'S, UM, IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT'S, UH, THE 17,394 WOULD BE OUR SHARE OF THIS GRANT THAT COMES INTO THE COUNTY THAT THE COUNTY HELPS ALLOCATE THROUGH THE CITY. AND, UM, THIS YEAR, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO USE THIS MONEY ON IS TO DO SOME UPGRADES TO OUR WEAPONS TO REDUCE RECOIL. IT'S A, IT'S A, UM, IT'S A NICE TO HAVE THING TO MAKE THE, UH, THE WEAPONS EASIER TO SHOOT FOR OFFICERS, ESPECIALLY FOR SMALLER OFFICERS. UM, THIS IS A, THIS IS A GRANT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED OR WE'VE QUALIFIED FOR THREE YEARS IN A ROW, BUT WE'RE STILL KIND OF WAITING TO GET THE MONEY. WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOT THE 25 MONEY YET. SO WE HAVE THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE PLANNED TO PURCHASE USING THIS GRANT MONEY, LIKE OUR IN, UM, IN OUR DIGITAL DRIVER'S LICENSE READERS FOR WHEN THAT LAW BECOMES INTO PLACE WHERE THIS IS HOW WE WOULD USE THIS KIND OF MONEY. SO WE'RE JUST USING THIS TO BASICALLY OFFSET EXPENSES THAT THE CITY WOULD INCUR OR TO BUY THINGS THAT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF? MUST HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. MS. SHAPIRO? WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS FOR THIS ITEM, SIR. HOWEVER, THERE'S ONE LAST OPPORTUNITY IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON IT. I DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD, SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2026 JAG GRANT, CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION APPROVING THE BJAFY 2026 EDWARD BRYANT MEMORIAL JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT, AND WITH AUTHORIZATION FOR THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. SECOND. HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DRISCOLL, A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TIM. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE YES. AND IT DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU, CHIEF. [E. Purchase Approval: Annual Renewal of Novacoast Managed Services Consideration of approval of a one-year agreement with Novacoast Inc. under U.S. General Services Administration contract GS-35F-246BA as the reseller to provide endpoint management with Managed Services (asset management and vulnerability mitigation software) in the amount of $116,000.00, and with authorization for the Mayor to execute all necessary documents.] SO THE NEXT ITEM IS THE PURCHASE APPROVAL FOR THE ANNUAL RENEWAL OF NOVACOAST MANAGED SERVICES. DIRECTOR MONTGOMERY, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THE, UH, ITEM BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS OUR THIRD RENEWAL OF THIS AGREEMENT WITH THE NOVO COAST. NOVOCOAST IS A SERVICE PROVIDER THAT WE, UH, HIRED, UH, WHAT, FOUR YEARS AGO NOW. SO, UH, TO HELP US MANAGE OUR ENDPOINTS, THEY DO, UH, UH, PATCH MANAGEMENT, ASSET MANAGEMENT, AND, UH, VULNERABILITY, UH, ASSESSMENTS FOR US. THE... IT'S BEEN A VERY SUCCESSFUL, UH, PROJECT. UH, OUR TEAM IS, UH, BEEN ABLE TO USE THIS, UH, QUITE WELL, AND, UH, IT HELPS US IN OUR BUILD PROCESS EVERY YEAR AS PART OF THE REFRESH. SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF FEATURES THAT THIS, THIS ONE CONTRACT PROVIDES. THE AGREEMENT IS THROUGH A US GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION CONTRACT FOR, UH, $116,000. ALL OF THE MONEY IS WITHIN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET, AND THERE'S A $3,000 INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR, UH, THAT IS ATTRIBUTED TO JUST COST OF DOING BUSINESS. AND, UH, UM, PART [00:50:01] OF THE ITEMS INSIDE OF THE, UH, AGENDA PACKET WERE, UH, REDACTED BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME CYBERSECURITY INFRASTRUCTURE ITEMS THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY LISTED WITHIN THE QUOTES THAT WE REMOVED. ANY QUESTIONS? I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MONTGOMERY? COUNCILMAN JORITO. DIRECTOR M- MONTGOMERY, IN, IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THIS PURCHASING? SO, UM, I'M GONNA TRY NOT TO USE THE PROPER NAME, UH, UH, BUT ESSENTIALLY, WE, UH, UH, UH, PURCHASE A PRODUCT WHERE WE MANAGE ALL OUR ASSETS. SO IT DOES BOTH, UH, POLICY MANAGEMENT OF ALL OF OUR ASSETS, SO WHAT CAN AND CAN'T BE DONE ON OUR WINDOWS DESKTOPS AND SERVERS. IT DOES INVENTORY SO WE CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE SERVERS AND WHEN, WHEN SOMETHING MAY HAVE GONE RIGHT OR WRONG, ANY, UH, FAILURES OR WHATNOT. IT DOES SOME PREDICTIVE MODELING THERE. IT, UH, AS A MANAGED SERVICE, THEY, THEY DO ALL OF OUR PATCHING FOR US, AND SO, UH, THE TEAM DOESN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, UH, TRYING TO STAY UP TO DATE AND DO ALL THAT THING. THIS IS PART OF THEIR CONTRACT, IS TO DO OUR PATCHING. SO ONCE A MONTH, THERE'S A PATCH PROCESS THAT, THAT THEY GO THROUGH THAT TAKES ABOUT THREE WEEKS TO PATCH THROUGH EVERYTHING. UH, WE HAVE A VULNERABILITY, UH, MODULE THAT WILL SCAN OUR NETWORK AND ALL OF OUR DEVICES AND DETERMINE IF THERE ARE ANY KNOWN VULNERABILITIES SO THAT WE CAN, UH, AGAIN, HAVE AN AUTOMATED PROCESS FOR PATCHING WITHIN ALL ONE, ALL WITHIN ONE SYSTEM. THERE ARE THE... UM, THERE'S NO... I'M DRAWING A BLANK. THERE'S ANOTHER MODULE THAT WE HAVE AS PART OF THIS, BUT AGAIN, IT'S ALL RELATED TO SORT OF ENDPOINT MANAGEMENT, UH, AND CYBERSECURITY TOOLS. OKAY, THANK YOU. MY PLEASURE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. MS. SHAPIRO? WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS FOR THIS ITEM, SIR. HOWEVER, ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM NOW IS YOUR CHANCE. I DON'T SEE ANYONE COMING FORWARD, SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL? YES, MAYOR. UH, MOVE TO APPROVE THE ONE-YEAR AGREEMENT WITH NOVO COAST, INC. ON THE US GENERAL SERVICE ADMINISTRATION CONTRACT GS-35F-246BA, AS THE RESELL TO PROVIDE ENDPOINT MANAGEMENT WITH MANAGED SERVICES, ASSET MANAGEMENT VULNERABILITY, MITIGATION SOFTWARE IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $116,000, AND WITH AUTHORIZATION OF THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DORITO AND A SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN REEVES. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE YES. AND IT DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY. SO NOW WE'LL MOVE [A. Energy Savings Performance Contract Discussion of Energy Savings Performance Contract for 60 city facilities.] ON TO THE WORK SESSION ITEMS. THESE ARE ITEMS THAT WE WILL NOT BE VOTING ON. WE'LL JUST BE HAVING A DISCUSSION FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION AND FOR THE INFORMATION OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS. FIRST ITEM IS THE ENERGY SAVINGS PERFORMANCE CONTRACT. DIRECTOR SISEVICH, YOU HAVE THE ITEM. YES. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UM, THIS IS, UM, STEP TWO OF THE MCKINSTRY CONTRACT THAT WAS SIGNED, UM, A COUPLE YEARS AGO. STEP ONE IS A QUICK RECAP WAS CONDI - FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT. PUBLIC WORKS HAS BEEN UTILIZING THIS DATA FOR THE LAST TWO, UM, FISCAL YEARS FOR OUR BUDGET PREPARATIONS. UM, AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT MCKINSTRY HAS BEEN UPDATING THE DATA AS WELL FOR US. UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD A BRAND NEW BUILDING, UH, RESTROOM BUILDING AND CONCESSION BUILDING OVER AT NORTH PARK. UM, IT HAD A VERY LOW SCORE. THEY UPDATED THE DOCUMENT, UPDATED ALL THE SCORING FOR US. SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, AND FOR YOU TONIGHT IS, UM, A... BEFORE WE GET TO A, UM, CONTRACT IS JUST TO GO OVER WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING FOR THE NEXT PHASE. AND OF OUR 60 FACILITIES AND OVER OUR 4,000 ASSETS, SEVERAL OF THESE ASSETS QUALIFY FOR US TO GO FOR AN ENERGY CONTRACT, UH, PRIMARILY HVAC, LIGHTING, UM, AS WELL AS WE CAN DO, UM, CAULKING OF WINDOWS AND OF DOORWAYS AND JUST ANYTHING THAT WILL HELP US SAVE ENERGY FOR THE LONG TERM. AND GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH MCKINSTRY AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, UM, IT WAS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE FY27 CAPITAL BUDGET. IT'S A TWO-SIDED, UM, PROGRAM THAT'S, UH, FUNDING, CAPITAL DOLLARS AS WELL AS LEASE DOLLARS. AND THE, UM, SEAN AND TOM COULD TALK MORE SPECIFIC AROUND THE LEASE THINGS, ASPECTS OF IT, BUT IT'S ABOUT A 15-YEAR LEASE IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, OVER $2 MILLION. AND WHAT THAT'S GONNA DO IS IT'S GOING TO SAVE US OVER $175,000 OVER THE YEAR, 20 YEARS. UM, THE 20-YEAR NUMBER IS THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF OUR ASSETS. UM, IN DOING SO, ALSO, [00:55:01] WE WILL REDUCE OUR OPERATING BUDGET IN PUBLIC WORKS BY APPROXIMATELY $30,000. SO IT'S A... ALMOST CALL IT TWO-FOR. WE'RE GONNA SAVE MONEY LONG-TERM AS WELL AS SAVE MONEY SHORT-TERM BY REDUCING WHAT WE'RE DOING, UH, FROM AN OPERATING STANDPOINT IN PUBLIC WORKS. THEY, UH, MCKINSTRY IS GONNA HANDLE EVERYTHING TURNKEY. THAT MEANS THEY'RE GONNA SET UP THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR ALL THE LIGHTING, ALL THE HV- HVAC REPLACEMENTS, ALL THE MECHANICAL. UH, THEY'RE GONNA PROCURE EVERYTHING. UH, THEY DO NOT HAVE ONE VENDOR THAT DOES THIS WORK. THEY HAVE MULTIPLE VENDORS THAT THEY GET THE BEST PRICE FROM. SO JUST LIKE ANY GENERAL CONTRACTOR, THEY'RE GONNA PRICE AROUND AND GET THE BEST PRICE POSSIBLE. ON TOP OF ALL THAT, THEY ARE GOING TO GUARANTEE THE $175,000 SAVINGS THAT IS PART OF THE CONTRACT. UM, THEY WILL THEN COME BACK AND REVISIT OUR HEATING BILLS, OUR ELECTRICAL BILLS, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE $175,000 IN SAVINGS. IF WE DO NOT HAVE $175,000 IN SAVINGS, THEY WRIT US A CHECK. THEY'RE GONNA... THIS IS, IT'S A GUARANTEED SAVINGS PROGRAM, THAT'S, UM, HENCE THE WORD GUARANTEE. AND DO I THINK IT'S GONNA COME IN MORE THAN 175? ONE WOULD THINK SO. UH, THEY'RE NOT... THEY'RE GONNA GO ON THE LOWER END, JUST MAKE SURE THAT'S A LITTLE MORE, UM, REALISTIC FOR THEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. IT'S ABOUT A ONE-YEAR PROJECT IN TOTAL. UM, IT'S GONNA TAKE ABOUT SEVERAL MONTHS JUST... YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REPLACING THOUSANDS OF LIGHT BULBS IN ALL THE BUILDINGS, A UNIFORM LIGHT BULB. UH, IF YOU GO UP ON THE... WE USE ANALOGY, GO UP ON THE FLOOR FINANCE, AND YOU LOOK OUT AT SEAN MITCHELL'S OFFICE AT THE CUBES, AND YOU WILL SEE TWO DIFFERENT TYPE OF LIGHT COLORS. WE'LL HAVE UNIFORMITY THROUGH THAT AREA. WE'LL ALSO HAVE THIS, THE RIGHT SPECIFICATIONS SO THAT WHEN WE NEED TO ORDER SOMETHING AGAIN, WE HAVE A REPLACEMENT WHEN IT COMES THROUGH. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, AS I SAID, A ONE-YEAR PROJECT, UH, FOR EVERYTHING TO TAKE PLACE. UM, THAT DOES INCLUDE BONDS AND INSURANCE, THE MONITORING OF THE SAVINGS, THEIR PROGRAM MANAGEMENT, THEIR SPECIFICATIONS. THEY'RE GONNA BE HIRING MECHANICAL ENGINEERS, THEY'RE GONNA HIRE ELECTRICAL ENGINEERS. UH, THERE'S ALSO SOME PLUMBING ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AS WELL. UM, NOTHING SIGNIFICANT FROM THE PLUMBING, BECAUSE BASICALLY CHANGING OUT SOME LOW FO - FLOW TOILETS, UM, SOME FAUCETS, UH, BUT BASICALLY FINDING ENERGY SAVINGS FOR THE CITY LONG-TERM. AND, UH, THERE'S GONNA... NEXT MEETING, IF IT MOVES, GUYS MOVE FORWARD, THERE WILL BE A VERY THICK CONTRACT ASSOCIATED WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY LEGAL. SO, I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, AND THERE WAS A NICE PRESENTATION HERE THAT WAS PREPARED FOR, BY, UM, FINANCE TO MAKE THINGS A LITTLE MORE SIMPLER, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY POTENTIAL QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE. COUNCILMAN HYPES. DIRECTOR PETE, I, I TRIED HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS IN THE PACKET, AND I, I, I THINK I FAILED. UM, I, I GOT VERY MUCH FOCUSED ON PAGE 155 OF THE PACKET, PAGE 14 OF THE HANDOUT, WHICH SHOWS NET COST SAVINGS OVER 20 YEARS OF 772,000, WHICH BY MY MATH IS $38,000 A YEAR. I, I, I'M, I'M NOT EVEN FOLLOWING THE 175 FIGURE THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. UM, LET ME, LET ME START WITH THAT QUESTION. WHERE, WHERE IS THIS 175? I SEE WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT NET COST SAVINGS OVER 20 YEARS HERE IN THE PACKET. I, I, I DIDN'T... I'M, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THE 175,000 SAVINGS. AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW, THAT'S... I MEAN, THAT'S FINE. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY HEAD WRAPPED AROUND THIS. OH, YEAH. AND I HAVE, I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS AFTER THAT. YEAH, SURE. I THINK PETE WAS, UH, EXCUSE ME. UM, GOOD EVENING, MAY I COUNSEL. HE WAS JUST SAYING 175. IF YOU LOOK AT THE, BASICALLY, THE FIRST FULL YEAR OF THE TOTAL GUARANTEED SAVINGS ON THAT SLIDE, IT'S 176. OH. AND THAT'S... AND THEN IT ESCALATES EACH YEAR THEREAFTER BECAUSE THE COST OF, YOU KNOW - ALL RIGHT, SO THAT'S THE GROSS NET - THAT SAVINGS. GROSS SAVINGS. BUT WHEN WE GET TO NET SAVINGS, THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT OUR UPFRONT COSTS. IT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT FINANCING FOR THAT, YES. SO, I MEAN, JUST, I THINK THIS IS A, AN EXTREMELY WORTHY ENDE- ENDEAVOR. I, I, I WANT US TO BE ENERGY EFFICIENT PROVIDED THAT IT'S, IT'S AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING WORSE THAN WHITE LIGHT BULBS MIXED WITH YELLOW LIGHT BULBS ON A CHRISTMAS TREE. BUT, YOU KNOW, SO I LOOKED AT $772,000 OF NET SAVINGS OVER 20 YEARS, WHICH IS $38,000 A YEAR, WHICH IF YOU DIVIDE THAT NUMBER INTO YOUR UPFRONT CITY COSTS, THAT'S 3.1%. I MEAN, IS, IS THAT A GOOD RETURN ON INVESTMENT DIRECTOR HARRIS? I MEAN, IF YOU TOOK $1.2 MILLION AND INVESTED IT, WOULDN'T YOU GET BETTER THAN 3.1%? I, I THINK THE BEGINNING... IN WITH, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND [01:00:01] THESE ARE END OF LIFE ASSETS, OKAY? YEAH. SO THEY'VE GOT, THEY HAVE TO BE REPLACED AT, AT SOME POINT. OKAY. SO, UH, WHAT PETE IS, UH, PART THAT I THINK HE DIDN'T, UH, DIVE INTO TOO MUCH IS, UM, WHEN HE, WHEN THESE BALLASTS GO, I MEAN, AND, AND I THINK THERE'S SOMEWHERE IN A CHART IN HERE HOW MUCH TIME HIS STAFF HAS SPENT GOING OUT AND REPLACING THESE LIGHTS BECAUSE THEY'RE AT END OF LIFE, UH, IT'S NOT JUST BULB, IT'S THE WHOLE, UH, FACILITY. I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT IS THAT WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? THE WHOLE, UH - FIXTURE. FIXTURE. AND, UH, AND SO THAT TIME WILL BE SAVED. HIS TEAM WILL NOT BE GOING AND SPENDING, FIRST OF ALL, THOSE MAN HOURS, AND THAT'S NOT IN HERE, THOSE KIND OF SAVINGS. AND YOU'RE GOING TO PROCURE NOW SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO, YOU MAY NOT HAVE TO, BUT IN A FEW YEARS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE EITHER BALLASTS THAT ARE ALL DIFFERENT COLOR, LIGHTS THAT ARE DIFFERENT COLORS, AND THEY ARE END OF LIFE ASSETS. SO IT'S NOT SO MUCH JUST A STRAIGHT RETURN. WE STRUCTURED IT SO THAT THE FINANCING, THE SAVINGS WOULD COVER THE FINANCING. AND IT PROBABLY WILL BE BETTER THAN THESE SAVINGS, NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE PERSONNEL COST I TALKED ABOUT, BUT ALSO IF THEY'RE GUARANTEEING IT, YOU CAN GUARANTEE THAT THERE'S MORE SAVINGS THAN WHAT THEY'RE GUARANTEEING BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA STROKE A CHECK. I'M TALKING ABOUT MCKINSTRY. HEY, I, I, I'M ROOTING FOR THIS THING. I'M, I'M CONFESSING UP FRONT. I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND HAVING GONE THROUGH IT, AND I APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION HERE. IT, IT MAY BE JUST RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME AND I'M NOT DISCERNING. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IS, UH, YOU KNOW, MAY- MAYBE THERE'S A, A GOOD IDEA TODAY FOR THIS YEAR WHAT GUARANTEED SAVINGS LOOKS LIKE, BUT HOW IS SOMEBODY GUARANTEEING A SAVINGS IN YEAR 20? I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THE COST OF ANYTHING THAT SOMEBODY'S GUARANTEEING A SAVINGS? WHAT AM I... THEY KNOW THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND THERE'S A WHOLE DETAILED CALCULATIONS ON HOW THEY DO THIS STUFF AND IT'S ALL FOLLOWED BY STATE LAW OR WHATEVER I THINK ON, OR STANDARDIZATION - STANDARD CONTRACT, YES. OF, OF, OF THESE KIND OF SAVINGS. THEY'LL KNOW IN FIRST YEAR OR SECOND YEAR WHETHER THERE'S SAVINGS OR NOT BASED ON WHAT THEY - THE FIRST YEAR THEY FIGURE THEY GO COME BACK AND THEY LOOK AND WE COULD ASK THEM TO DO ANOTHER YEAR AND SUBSEQUENT YEARS AS WELL, UM, TO GUARANTEE ALL THAT. NOW, WHEN YOU GO INTO THE CONFERENCE ROOM ADJACENT TO CHAMBERS, IF YOU LOOK UP BY THE DOORWAY, YOU'LL SEE TWO HOLES IN THE CEILING. THOSE ARE, UM, CAN LIGHTS THAT ARE OBSOLETE. UM, SO WE CAN'T EVEN GET THEM REPLACED. SO THIS, THIS PROJECT HERE WILL TAKE CARE OF ALL THAT AND DO THE RIGHT SPECIFICATIONS FOR US. UH, WHEN TOM WAS REFERRING TO END OF LIFE, THOSE ARE QUITE LITERALLY END OF LIFE. WELL, UM, A- AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A WORTHY ENDEAVOR. UH, I'M, I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE NUMBERS. I'M, I'M QUESTIONING MY, MY ABILITY TO FULLY GRASP HOW THIS ALL WORKS TOGETHER. AND I THINK THE THING I JUST NEED TO DO AND SIGN OFF HERE IS JUST GET WITH YOU AND, AND MEET WITH YOU OFFLINE TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING SINCE WE'RE NOT VOTING ON IT TONIGHT BECAUSE I'M STILL WORKING THROUGH IT. COUNCILMAN BRADY? WELL, I, I'D LIKE TO, UM, THANK PETE AND, AND TOM VERY MUCH BECAUSE WE, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS OVER THE LAST YEAR. I MEAN, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS WAS DONE NINE TO 12 MONTHS AGO. AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, WITH COUNCIL WHEN IT FIRST KIND OF SAW IT, I DIDN'T LIKE IT. MIGHT HAVE A LOT OF CONTENTION AGAINST IT. IT WAS A LOT MORE BLOATED. WE WERE LOOKING AT OVER 12 MILLION DOLLARS IN REPLACEMENT OF ASSETS THAT WERE IN THE FIELD THAT WE FOUND THROUGH, THROUGH, THROUGH PARKS AND EVERY DIFFERENT BUILDING, UM, OR PHYSICAL PLANT THAT WAS OUT THERE. UM, WE SCALED THIS DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY, RIGHT? SO THE IDEA IN THIS IS WE'RE NOT COMING OUT ANY EXCESS DOLLARS, RIGHT? WE'RE, WHAT'S WITHIN OUR BUDGET AND LIKE YOU SAID, THE IDEA OF THE FINANCING MATCHING THE REPLACEMENT VEHICLE, WE HAVE $4.8 MILLION IN GUARANTEED SAVINGS, RIGHT? 3.3 IN ASSETS THAT WILL BE REPLACED. GIVE YOU GUYS AN IDEA, THAT'S LIKE 3,600 BULBS THAT WE HAVE GOING THROUGH THERE, RIGHT? AND, AND THESE NEED TO BE REPLACED, ABSOLUTELY. IS IT THE HIGHEST PRIORITY FOR THE CITY? NO. BUT THE IDEA THAT THE THINGS I KIND OF LIKE ABOUT IT IS THIS WAS A CONSTRUCTED PLAN THAT REALLY GIVES US A NET ZERO, RIGHT? IT'S A NET ZERO TO GO REPLACE IT, BUT MATCH IT UP TO THE FINANCING. WE CAN CELEBRATE THAT OUR ENERGY FOOTPRINT IS SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED, RIGHT? I MEAN, OUR ENERGY CONSUMPTION ACROSS THE CITY AND THE ASSETS WE OWN WILL BE ABSOLUTELY REDUCED WITH THIS PROGRAM. IT COMES THROUGH SAVINGS, BUT WE'D BE PROUD THAT WE CAN TOUT THAT. WE TALK ABOUT ESG THAT'S OUT THERE, ENVIRONMENTAL, SOCIAL AND GOVERNANCE. HOW DOES AN ORGANIZATION OPERATE AND DO WE TACKLE THAT? FROM AN E POSITION, ENVIRONMENTALLY, WE ARE DOING WHAT WE CAN DO THROUGH THIS PROGRAM TO CREATE A, A LOWER USAGE OF POWER. OVERALL, THE VEHICLE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, ABOUT THE $4.8 MILLION IN REDUCTIONS THAT WE KIND OF HAVE, IT'S FOR ONE YEAR, THIS GROUP WILL GO REPLACE EVERYTHING. AND WHERE'S THE SAVINGS THAT YOU DON'T SEE? [01:05:01] IS YOUR STAFF REPLACING 3,600 BULBS, WHEN THEY'RE GONNA DO IT AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA DO IT, RIGHT? CORRECT. SO THE IDEA IS HOW IS, DO WE HAVE AN OLD CAN, A LARGE ONE THAT'S IN A CEILING THAT NEEDS TO BE CUT OUT? NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DRYWALL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REPLACEMENT OF ELECTRICAL PARTS, YOU GOTTA GO BUY THAT PART, AND THEN YOU GOTTA GO PAINT IT AND YOU GOTTA GO PUT THE MUD AND ALL THOSE THINGS ON IT. THAT IS TIME. TIME IS OUR SAVINGS THAT IS NOT AT ANY WAY HAVE WE DONE ANY ANALYSIS BEHIND THAT TO SAY WHAT IS TRULY OUR PRODUCTION OR PRODUCTIVITY AND OUR EFFICIENCY WITHIN YOUR STAFF TO NOT DO THAT? BECAUSE MORE THAN LIKELY, WE WANT THAT STAFF OUT DOING - OTHER THINGS. HIGHER PRIORITY ITEMS TO THE CITY, RIGHT? THEY'RE DOING SIDEWALKS, THEY'RE DOING THINGS LIKE THAT. NOW WE CAN GO BACK THROUGH OUR PROPERTY CONDITION REPORT AND WE CAN SAY, OKAY, THERE'S OTHER THINGS WITHIN THESE BUILDINGS WE WANT THAT STAFF TACKLED, RIGHT? THIS COULD BE AESTHETICS, IT COULD BE EXTERNAL. THOSE ARE THE SAVINGS THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT IS YET. AND, AND THOSE ARE, WE WILL HAVE STAFF DOING HIGHER PRIORITY ITEMS THAT WILL SAVE MONEY IN OUR BUDGET GOING FORWARD, RIGHT? IN, INTO THOSE KIND OF THINGS. AND I THINK WE JUST ENCAPSULATE THIS KIND OF ALL INTO ONE ITEM AND WE JUST KIND OF MOVE FORWARD. THE IDEA IS WHAT IF WE DON'T? IF WE DON'T DO IT, IT BECOMES A BIGGER ISSUE. BUT I DO WANNA GO BACK. THE ENVIRONMENTAL PIECE IS BIG. THERE IS NO DOLLARS HERE THAT WE ARE COMING OUTS- OUTSIDE OF OUR BUDGET. SO WE'RE WORKING WITHIN THE SAVINGS THAT WE HAVE AND WE'RE INCREASING OUR PRODUCTIVITY AND EFFICIENCY. THAT'S WHY IT WAS SCALED DOWN TO KIND OF GET TO THIS POINT BECAUSE WE FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT, WE GOT A LITTLE OVERALL PARKS AND REC. WE HAD A LOT OF STUFF THAT WE'RE TALKING TO EVERY LIGHT BULB OUT THERE. I THINK THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THROUGH A, A, A GREATER PLAN OVER FIVE TO 10 YEARS OF HOW THOSE ASSETS WILL BE ADDRESSED. BUT I THINK THESE WERE CRITICAL KIND OF PIECES. YOU'LL HAVE THOSE PIECES THAT TURN OFF THE BULBS AND OFFICES ON AND OFF THAT YOU GET THOSE SAVINGS. THE OTHER PART THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SAVINGS IN, WHAT IF GEORGIA POWER RAISES ITS RATES? WE ALL, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, IT, IT'S GUARANTEED TO RAISE THEIR KIND OF RATES. THAT'S OUR SAVINGS. IF WE DON'T DO THIS, THAT WE WILL KIND OF CAPTURE THOSE KIND OF PIECES WITHIN THAT AND ULTIMATELY IT WILL KIND OF BE THERE, UM, IN WITHIN THE ASSETS THAT WE'VE DONE. WE CAN COME BACK LATER ON AND LOOK AT OTHER ASSETS LIKE IN PARKS AND THOSE AT A SE- SECOND STEP. I JUST THINK THAT WAS, IN MY PERSPECTIVE, LIKE TO THE COUNCIL, I THOUGH THAT WAS WAY TOO BIG TO DIGEST INTO ONE PIECE. I THINK THIS, FROM A 3.3 WITH 4.8 SAVINGS, I THINK IT, IT PUSHED IT DOWN THAT ALLOWS US KIND OF THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO TACKLE THESE THINGS. GUYS, ARE YOU GETTING NEW LIGHT BULBS OUT OF THIS, TOM? WHAT'S THAT? WE'RE GETTING NEW OFFICES LIKE THAT. WE ALREADY REPLACED THIS LIGHT BULB. OH NO, BUT I HEARD THAT SEAN HAD THE MOST EXPENSIVE LIGHT BULBS. I'M JUST HOPING THE LIGHT BULBS ARE WRONG. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. UM, THE SAVINGS, THE 175 GUARANTEED FOR 20 YEARS, HOW IS THAT CALCULATED? WHERE DOES THAT SAVINGS COME FROM? IS IT, IS IT SAVINGS FROM WHAT, UH, COUNCILMAN BRADY JUST TALKED ABOUT ON WHERE WE COULD REDEPLOY OUR RESOURCES TOGETHER OR, OR IS IT JUST DIRECT WRITING A CHECK EVERY YEAR TO US? IT, IT'S, I'LL PUT IT THIS WAY. IT'S THE LIGHT BULBS THAT FROM THIS BUILDING ALONE ARE 10 PLUS YEARS OLD. TODAY THEY'RE MORE EFFICIENT, UH, BETTER PLACE. INSIDE THE PARKS, THEY'RE EVEN OLDER. UM, HVAC UNITS THAT ARE END OF LIFE HVAC UNITS, REPLACE THAT, WE WILL HAVE AN ENERGY SAVINGS THERE. SO IT'S CUMULATIVELY, THEY'VE CALCULATED ALL THE LITTLE NUANCES OF, UM, EVEN A BUILDING ENVELOPE, YOU KNOW, BY CAULKING AND SEALING AND REPLACING WINDOWS, THEY HAVE FOUND SAVINGS. AND SO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FORMULA. I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT'S PROPRIETARY, BUT THEY FIGURED IT OUT. BUT HOW DO YOU DET - WHO, WHO'S GONNA DETERMINE THAT ANNUAL SAVINGS? SO THEY DETERMINE IT. WE, THEY KNOW OUR BILLS. THEY'VE GONE THROUGH ALL OF OUR GEORGIA POWER BILLS. THEY'VE GONE THROUGH ALL STACKS. UM - THEY DO THAT FOR 20 YEARS? SO TYPICALLY, UM, THE FIRST YEAR, SECOND YEAR, IF THERE'S SAVINGS, IT'S THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE REST OF THE 20 YEARS. UH - YEAH. I MEAN, YOU GEN- GENERALLY, YOU WOULDN'T LOSE THAT EFFICIENCY FROM THAT BULB COMPARED TO. MY POINT BASED, THEY'RE NOT WRITING US A CHECK EVERY DAY. NO, NO, THEY'RE NOT. OKAY. THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET. THEY, THEY WILL WRITE YOU A CHECK FOR THE DIFFERENTIAL IF YOU DON'T MEET THIS. IF YOU DON'T MEET IT, THEY'LL WRITE FOR IT. SO IF IT'S 150,000 WRIT A CHECK. SO THEY, WHAT I'M, THAT'S WHAT I SAID EARLIER. AND THAT'S AN ANNUAL THING. SO IT'S PROBABLY MORE LIKE 200 - SO WHAT HAPPENS, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN OVER 20 YEARS, OUR ASSETS THAT FALL UNDER THIS AGREEMENT CHANGE? NEW TECHNOLOGIES, NEW, DOES THAT MAKE THAT, DOES IT VOID OUT THE GUARANTEED SAVINGS EACH YEAR? 'CAUSE I WOULD THINK, I, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'D STAY IN BUSINESS IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE SOME SORT OF OUT, IF SOMETHING CHANGES THE DYNAMICS OF THE BASELINE CALCULATIONS TO, BECAUSE YOU, IT'S GONNA CHANGE. RIGHT? AND IT WOULD CHANGE TO BE MORE EFFICIENT. YEAH. SO, I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T SEEN THINGS MECHANICALLY COME THROUGH LAST - BUT, BUT WOULDN'T [01:10:01] THAT GIVE THEM AN OUT TO GET OUT OF CONTRACT TO GUARANTEE THOSE SAVINGS? I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO - YEAH. I MEAN, I, THE BEST I UNDERSTAND IT, IT'S NOT LIKE SOMETHING EVERY SINGLE YEAR FOR 20 SOLID YEARS THAT THEY ARE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE SAYING IN YEAR ONE OR TWO, YOU'LL BASICALLY SEE THAT WHAT YOU HAD BEFORE COMPARED TO NOW, NOT ONLY IN ENERGY, DIRECT GAS, ELECTRIC, UH, UH, ELECTRIC GAS, WATER PLUMBING IN THERE. UM, THAT THOSE SAVINGS ARE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST THERE. THEY CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY'RE THERE FOR YOU AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA GUARANTEE THAT. AND THEY'LL RUN THE DATA AND THE REPORTS FOR YOU FOR 20 YEARS. I'M JUST PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE HERE. SO - AND THEY'LL BE HERE. COMING OFF OF COUNCILMAN BRADY'S COMMENTS. WE REMOVED A LOT OF... I WAS INVOLVED WHEN I WAS PUBLIC SA - UH, PUBLIC WORKS LIAISON BEFORE KATIE JOINED THE COUNCIL, UH, ON THE INITIAL DISCUSSIONS AND, AND FERGAL, BRADY WAS IN THE MEETINGS WITH ME AS WELL. BUT WHAT I, I WAS ALWAYS CONFUSED AS TO, YOU KNOW, IT JUST... AT, AT THE TIME - UH-HUH. AND I'M GONNA MEET WITH YOU GUYS AFTER THIS BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE POTENTIALLY TOO MANY HOLES IN, IN THE, IN THE STRATEGY TO NOT ACHIEVE THE SAVINGS AND COST, YOU KNOW... THEORETICALLY, WE DEPLOY RESOURCES, ALL THAT STUFF. IT ALL SOUNDS GREAT, RIGHT? BUT IN PRACTICALITY, YOU KNOW, THE CITY CHANGES, IT GROWS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, CALCULATION OF THE SAVINGS IS, IS, IS CRITICAL TO ME BECAUSE I, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW SOMEONE STAYS IN BUSINESS FOR 20 YEARS GUARANTEEING ANY ORGANIZATION 20 YEARS OF $175,000 PLUS IN SAVINGS, PUTTING THAT ASIDE. THE, ALL THE OTHER ASSETS THAT WERE... IT SOUNDS LIKE TWO-THIRDS OF OTHER ASSETS WERE TAKEN OFF THE TABLE, RIGHT, OF THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW - THEY'RE FUNDED THROUGH DIFFERENT - A BIG PIECE. YES. PARKS AND REC, WHATEVER, RIGHT? WE DID, WE DID NOT - I REMEMBER PARKS AND REC, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WAS TO REMOVE THE WOODEN POLES - YES. BECAUSE A DANGER HAS IT. I REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, AS THAT BEING A PRIORITY, UM, BECAUSE THOSE ARE DANGEROUS. THEY CAN EASILY COME DOWN AND INJURE SOMEBODY, UM, AND PUT MORE SECURE SAFETY LIGHTING AND POLES IN, IN THE PARKS. UM, I FORGET HOW MANY POLES, BUT THERE WAS A LOT. ANYWAY, SO IF THIS IS... AND AGAIN, I'M PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE. IT'S A WORKSHOP. IF THIS IS SUCH A GOOD THING FOR THE ASSETS THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO UNDER THE, THE CURRENT DISCUSSION, WHY WOULDN'T WE EXPAND IT TO OTHER AREAS IF WE CAN GET, ACHIEVE ADDITIONAL SAVINGS? IS IT BECAUSE WE, THE OUTFLOW OF INITIAL CAPITAL WOULD BE BIGGER? IS THAT WHY? YES, YES. AND IN FACT, SOME OF THOSE WE, WE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF. WE HAVE REPLACED A LOT OF THAT STUFF THROUGH, THROUGH GRANTS. GRANTS. I BELIEVE WE'VE REPLACED A LOT OF THE POLES. SO WE'RE GETTING SAVINGS WITHOUT THIS METHOD. NOW WE'RE HERE GOING, OKAY, THESE VERY, YOU KNOW - BUT YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET A SAVING REPLACING A WOODEN POLE WITH A METAL POLE. THERE'S NO ENERGY SAVINGS THERE. SO WE BASICALLY SEND THE CAT A DIFFERENT WAY AND JUST REPLACE THE BULBS, UM, THROUGH OTHER MEANS THROUGH GRANTS AND THROUGH OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM. SO ONE MORE... I, I SAID THAT WAS THE LAST QUESTION I HAD ONE MORE. WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST DO THE WORK ON OUR OWN, SUBCONTRACT IT OUT INSTEAD OF MCKINSTRY DOING IT ALL? SO THIS, THERE'S A, THERE'S A COUPLE OF FACTORS. ONE, PROCURE- PROCUREMENT ALONE WOULD BE TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME. I MEAN, THAT'S ONE. TWO IS WE'RE NOT MECHANICAL ENGINEERS, SO SPECIFYING CERTAIN MECHANICAL ASPECTS THAT WE WANNA GET REPLACED. UM, THE ELECTRICAL AS WELL. I MEAN, WE REPLACE WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE. WE KNOW WHAT THE S- SPECIFICATION WAS VIA THE PLANS. UH, WE'D HAVE TO HIRE THAT OUT AS WELL. SO THERE'S A LOT OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HIRE OUT TO WRITE THE SPECIFICATIONS TO MAKE IT, UM, PROCURE, UM, THROUGH OUR PUBLIC MEANS ADVERTISING, UH, THAT WOULD TAKE UP AN ASTRONOMICAL AMOUNT OF TIME. SO WE WOULD OUTSOURCE THOSE DECISIONS BASICALLY TO MCKINSEY, RIGHT? CORRECT. THAT'S ALL DONE AT ONE. WHICH MY CONCERN THERE IS THERE'S MUCH INTEREST IN THEIR PART TO BOLSTER UP THE CAPITAL OUTLAY. WELL, THAT'S WHY THE CAPITAL OUTLAY, WE PARED IT DOWN TO THOSE ITEMS WE BELIEVE ARE - YES. UH, THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE THOSE KIND OF ISSUES WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE DIFFICULTY PROCURING THEM AND THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE, UM, THAT ARE, UH, THAT ARE END OF LIFE. SO I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE STARTED WITH THAT. THESE ARE ASSETS THAT ARE END OF LIFE. THEY'RE NOT JUST, "HEY, GO GRAB SOME END." I JUST HOPE WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME SORT OF - MEANING WE WOULD HAVE TO... DUE DILIGENCE ON OUR PART TO MAKE SURE, LIKE, THEY'RE NOT OVERCOMPENSATING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. OH. BECAUSE THAT PUTS MORE MONEY IN THEIR BANK ACCOUNT, RIGHT? RIGHT. AND LESS OUT OF THE TAXPAYER'S BANK ACCOUNT. SO ANYWAY. I'M DONE. THANK [01:15:01] YOU, MAYOR. COUNCILMAN RUIZ. UM, I THINK THIS IS GREAT. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, ON THE SCHOOL BOARD. WE WERE ABLE TO SEE, LIKE, LITTLE MICROCOSMS OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU, LIKE, UP A, YOU KNOW, YOU BUILD A NEW BUILDING, BECAUSE WE WERE DOING A LOT OF THAT FOR, YOU KNOW, QUITE A FEW YEARS THERE IN FULTON. AND WE STARTED NOTICING THAT SOME OF THE NEWER BUILDINGS THAT WE BUILT WITH THE ENERGY EFFICIENT LIGHT FIXTURES AND LIGHT BULBS AND DOING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY LISTED, WE STARTED SEEING THOSE ENERGY SAVINGS. AND SO AT SOME POINT AFTER A COUPLE OF SCHOOLS, COUPLE OF WINTERS AND SUMMERS OF OUR, UM, ENERGY BILLS, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM DID GO THROUGH A SIMILAR PROCESS. AND THEY'VE GOT AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING IN FULTON, BUT, LIKE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO DO THAT KIND OF... IT'S SPECIALIZED PROCUREMENT. AND I MEAN, I THINK THAT YOUR STAFF COULD DO IT. I JUST DON'T THINK YOU'D HAVE TIME TO DO ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT YOU DO. UM, THE SAVINGS, I THINK, ARE VERY REAL, AND I THINK IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO FIND, YOU KNOW, REAL LIFE, YOU KNOW, EXAMPLES. I KNOW THAT I LIVED THROUGH IT AT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. ANYBODY WHO'S REPLACED ALL THEIR LIGHT FIXTURES IN THEIR HOUSE HAS PROBABLY SEEN THE SAME THING. OR IF THEY REPLACED AN OLD HVAC. OH MY GOSH, LOOK AT THAT. WE KNOW ENERGY COSTS ARE PROBABLY GONNA GO UP. AND THE THING THAT ATTRACTS ME TO THIS IS THE SAVINGS TO STAFF, NUMBER ONE. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS THAT IT, IT ACTUALLY IS GOING TO LESSEN THE LOAD ON THE OPERATING BUDGET. SO TO HAVE LESS OF A DRAW ON OUR ENERGY, YOU KNOW, FREES UP THAT CAPITAL TO BE ABLE TO USE SOMEWHERE ELSE IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED RIGHT NOW. SO I'M EXCITED TO SUPPORT THIS, AND I, I LOOK FORWARD TO IT COMING FORWARD. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU. AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE WON'T BE VOTING ON THIS ITEM. THIS IS SIMPLY FOR OUR INFORMATION AND FOR THE PUBLIC'S INFORMATION. I BELIEVE YOU HAD, UM... MR. LAGERBLOOM, YOU HAD DECIDED NOT TO TAKE UP THE SECOND ITEM. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT, MAYOR. UM, SINCE PUBLISHING THIS AGENDA, I'VE GOT SOME REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC, SO I THINK IT'S BEST JUST TO, UH... I DON'T WANNA HAVE A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF A PROBLEM, SO I THINK IT'S BEST THAT WE JUST REMOVE THIS FROM TONIGHT, AND I'LL BRING IT BACK WHEN WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM. MS. SHAPIRO, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? WE DO NOT, MR. MAYOR. HOWEVER, IF THERE'S ANYONE STILL WAITING FOR THEIR MOMENT TO SPEAK, I DON'T SEE ANYONE COME FORWARD, SO WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE HAVE ANY REPORTS? [9. REPORTS] COUNCILMAN RIEDEL. UM, I USUALLY DON'T SPEAK ON VETERANS DAY, ON THE REPORTS, BUT, UM, I'M GONNA THIS EVENING BECAUSE, UM, MY SON WHO HAS SERVED 14 YEARS IN THE US ARMY, UH, HE, UH, LEFT THE ARMY ON JULY 1ST, THIS PAST SUMMER, AND HIS, THIS WILL BE HIS FIRST VETERANS DAY, UM, AS A VETERAN. UH, UM, HE, UH, LEFT A CAPTAIN IN THE ARMY AT GREEN BERET, WAS AN ARMY INJURY BEFORE THAT. UM, AND, UH, I APPRECIATED THE MAYOR HONORING THE VETERANS THIS EVENING. UM, THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT HAVING A FAMILY MEMBER OR A CHILD, AND MY WIFE IN MY CASE, SERVE IN THE MILITARY. UM, IT'S AN HONORABLE POSITION. UM, MY SON WOULD BE KILLING ME RIGHT NOW IF HE KNEW I WAS TALKING ABOUT HIM. UM, HE'S A VERY HUMBLE PERSON. UH, IF YOU EVER MEET HIM, UM, IT'S FUNNY, BUT WHEN WE'RE WITH STRANGERS OR FAMILY MEMBERS WHO DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT HE, HE, HE HAS DONE IN THE ARMY, AND, AND, AND THE, THE LEVEL THAT HE REACHED IN SERVING THE COUNTRY, UM, YOU KNOW, ASK HIM WHAT HE DOES FOR A LIVING, UM, MAYBE NEW FRIENDS, AND HE'LL, HE'LL JUST MAKE UP A CAREER. HE'LL NEVER TELL PEOPLE HE WAS IN THE US ARMY, AND THAT'S THE GOD'S HONEST TRUTH. AND, UH, UM, SUFFICE TO SAY, UH, MY WIFE AND I BECAME A MILITARY FAMILY BECAUSE OF OUR SON. UM, [01:20:01] AND, UH, WE WATCHED HIM GROW AS A CHILD INTO A MAN, INTO A HUSBAND, AND, AND NOW INTO A FATHER WITH OUR FIRST GRANDCHILD. UM, AND HE'S NOW GOING FOR HIS, UH, MBA, UH, TWO YEARS STRAIGHT AT NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY. UM, WE VISITED HIM TWO WEEKS AGO. UM, AND, UM, SO IT, IT'S AMAZING WHAT THESE LADIES AND GUYS, AND I KNOW THE CITY, UH, EMPLOYEES THAT ARE VETERANS, AND WE NEED TO HONOR THEM TONIGHT, THIS EVENING. AND EVERYONE THAT HAS SERVED IN THE, IN THE ARMED FORCES IN THE UNITED STATES, UH, AS MR. WEISS SAID, THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. UM, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THESE, UH, THESE, UM, WHAT I'LL CALL MILITARY FIGHTERS FOR PEACE IN THE, IN THE GLOBAL COMMUNITY. AND, UM, IT'S NOT EASY WHAT THEY GO THROUGH THEIR TRAINING. SOME OF YOU UP HERE MAY REALIZE WHAT YOUR OWN FAMILIES OF WHAT THESE INDIVIDUALS GO THROUGH JUST TO SERVE THEIR COUNTRY. IT, IT'S NOT EASY. UM, AND SO, I JUST WANNA HONOR MY SON, THE VETERANS THAT SERVE THE CITY, BOTH CURRENTLY AND PAST, AND ALL THOSE VETERANS THAT HAVE, UM, ALLOWED US TO SIT UP HERE AND DEBATE AND ARGUE AND SAY THINGS THAT SOME OF US PROBABLY DON'T LIKE TO HEAR FROM OTHERS, BUT THAT'S THE GREATEST THING ABOUT THIS COUNTRY, UM, WITH OUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH. AND, UH, SO I JUST WANNA HONOR THE VETERANS TONIGHT, AND JUST A LITTLE CHEER OUT TO MY SON, MATT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? REPORTS? YEAH, I MEAN, I TOUCHED ON THIS A LITTLE BIT AGO. I, I, I SEE IT THIS AFTERNOON. IT'S UP ON THE... THANKS TO DEANNA OVER HERE. IT'S UP ON THE CITY'S, UH, WEBSITE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, A REAL FINE PUBLICATION, ARCHITECTURAL DIGEST, HAD ALPHARETTA AS THE 15TH BEST PLACE TO LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES. AND BY MANY ESTIMATES, THERE'S 15 TO 18,000 CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES. YOU CAN DO THE MATH BY DIVIDING 18,000 INTO 15 AND SEE WHAT, UH, WHAT RARE AIR WE BREATHE AROUND HERE. AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE TO, UH, TO THANK, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, THE BEAUTY OF THIS CITY SUCH THAT WE GET RECOGNIZED. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS PRE - CURRENT AND PAST THAT REALLY TOED THE LINE ON WHAT OUR CITY LOOKS LIKE. WE HONORED A COUPLE OF, UH, DRB FOLKS TONIGHT AT THE START OF THE MEETING. THEY ARE INSTRUMENTAL IN, UH, MAINTAINING SUPER HIGH STANDARDS FOR THIS CITY. UH, WE DON'T COMPROMISE, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, UH, PEOPLE THINK WE'RE A PAIN IN THE NECK SOMETIMES, UH, TO DEAL WITH, BUT THE, UH, UH, WHAT, WHAT COMES OUT OF IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S TRULY BEAUTIFUL, THAT'S RECOGNIZED BY, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT WE, WE HAVE SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL HERE. SO, UH, ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO SEE DEANNA'S POST ON CITY OF ALPHARETTA SITE FOR, UH, FOR THAT PUBLICATION LINK. AND, UH, UH, JUST, UH, I'M, I'M ALWAYS GUARDING AGAINST COMPLACENCY. WHEN YOU WAKE UP IN THE GREATEST PLACE ON EARTH EVERY DAY, YOU TEND TO TAKE IT FOR GRANTED, AND I ALWAYS WANNA URGE PEOPLE, YOU CAN'T TAKE IT FOR GRANTED. YOU GOTTA GO TO WORK EVERY DAY TO KEEP IT GREAT, SO... MR. LAGERBLOOM, [10. EXECUTIVE SESSION (IF NECESSARY)] DO WE REQUIRE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING? WE DO, AND THE TOPIC TONIGHT'S LITIGATION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED. THE MOTION IS TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. CORRECT. AND I, I FAILED TO MENTION PROPERTY ACQUISITION. SO ONE MATTER OF LITIGATION, ONE MATTER OF PROPERTY ACQUISITION. SO... YES. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DRISCOLL. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? OKAY. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. IT IS UNANIMOUS, AND WE'LL RETURN SHORTLY. EMPHASIS ON SHORTLY. MOTION. COUNCILMAN DRISCOLL. YES, SIR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? LIKE A MOTION TO RECONVENE? SECOND. YOU MADE THE MOTION AND SECOND. YES, I WAS JUST TRYING TO REMEMBER WHO DID WHICH. JUST PICK A NAME WE WANT. PICK A NAME OUT OF IT. OH, OKAY. COUNCILMAN BRADY HAD A MOTION. COUNCILMAN DRISCOLL [01:25:01] HAD THE SECOND. IT'S JUST SPOKEN UP, MAN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE YES. AND IT IS UNANIMOUS. SECOND. SECOND. EVERYBODY. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN HYPES, SECOND BY EVERYBODY ELSE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE YES. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN DORITO? HE DIDN'T VOTE. OH, WELL. IT PASSES 6-1. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.